1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Come on, kiss type down now. The substitute is here. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: You know what time? It is? Episode one or I'm 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: not something got I'm all mixed up. It's season one, 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: uh in one in one moment, the teacher warms this. 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: I will get to you in one second. First, I 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: want to welcome to this class. I'm gonna write on 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: the chop board. Season one forty three, Episode three of 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: The Daily Zeitgeist. It's a production of iHeart Radio, and 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: it's the podcast where we take a deep dive, sometimes 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: maybe too deep into America's nasty shared consciousness to say, 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: off the rip, it's fuck the Koch Brothers, Fox News, Rush, Limbs, Limbaugh, 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: Limbs of Whatever, Limbs Off limbsy and j K. Rolling. 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: Anybody can get it. If you're not here for inclusion 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: of diversity, you don't have time. If you're still in 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: after that, then you're gonna like to show. If not, 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: you know, maybe turning the podcast off. It's free, so 17 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: don't do that to yourself. It is Wednesday, July. My 18 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: name is Miles Gray a k A. Pierre Emrick Obama 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: Gray a k A. Tierry On Weed a k A. 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: Lee splits In a k A. Thomas Rositski a k 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: A stash Lee Cole a k A Tuscany sends some Now, 22 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: some of you probably don't know what the hell that was, 23 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: but that was a lot of North London legends right there. 24 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: And thank you too, hungry hungry hypologists at Professor double 25 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: XL for those uh you know those arsenal inspired A 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: k is honoring the f A Cup run because we 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: are in the final. But I digress enough about my 28 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: favorite team and co host. I know I'll bring it 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: back to the Bruins talk in a second there. All right, well, 30 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: allow me to reintroduce you as my recurring co host 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: and just overall legend in the game. Please welcome Ms 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: Jamie Lofton. We are young as a late alfdend, sick 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: speed and pot wash your hands loved us fel that's 34 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: from at Water Trust un too great, so love pattar 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: shot up. Shout out to Meyern Grombacher, the drummer of 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: Pat the real mom haircut legend. Yeah. I think she's 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: just like a lot of those eighties people who like 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: they just get the huge check to like I will 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: now live in Hawaii forever and I don't want to 40 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: talk to anybody, and I don't need anything to live 41 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: with this ocean field. Uh, Jamie, Jamie, Jamie, thanks for 42 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: coming by. You know, these substitute gigs are not easy 43 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: for me all the time, so I appreciate you. I'm 44 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: here to make things more disorganized and harder. Well, please 45 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: help me introduce and welcome our first time guest. She 46 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: is actually part of the Heart family, but the first 47 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: time on this show. She's a writer, she's a podcaster, host, 48 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: pretty much you name it, she can do it. Please 49 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: welcome Eve's Jeff Cote. Hey, y'all, I'm happy to be here, 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: and I really feel like I cannot follow that introduction Jamie, 51 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: But I'm here, and that's how it's gonna be. Got 52 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: any a k as Eves? I don't have any A 53 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: K A S. I feel like I should be christened here. 54 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: I mean, what what better place to to to be 55 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: honored with a K A S? I don't have any 56 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: of my own. I guess Eves St Laurent. But that's 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: just not much of an ak. It's just a pretty 58 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: h Well, we're gonna get to know you even better 59 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: of a first We gotta tell our listeners what's going on. 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna check in. You know, we've been checking 61 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: around with like white supremacy. Uh, I need to check 62 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: in with toxic masculinity too, because boy, oh boy, it's 63 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: going down right now. We're also going to take a 64 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: look at what's going on in Missouri because, um, I 65 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: don't know, if you saw that couple who was pulling 66 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: guns on peaceful protesters. They've been charged with a crime. Uh, 67 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens to them. Spoiler alert nothing. 68 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: And uh. We'll also check in with Trader Joe's because 69 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: they've they're under some they're under some stress right now. 70 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: You know, people have been catching onto their the like 71 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: whimsical ethnic food uh iterations of Trader Joe's on labeling. 72 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: They're like, Okay, so now we're putting white supremacy under microscope. 73 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: Can we also talk about Trader Jose's and all this 74 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: other ship? So we'll get into that and also about 75 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: Trader Joe's. I did not even know. But first before 76 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: we do any of that, Eves, what is something from 77 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: your search history that is revealing about who you are? Okay, 78 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: So this is something that's been top of mind for 79 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: me lately, and I've been doing a little bit of 80 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: research into exercise induced urtecaria. I think I'm pronouncing that correctly. Ertecaria. Um. 81 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: It's basically what I gather from it. It's is that 82 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: it's allergy to to exercise. UM. There's this thing, this 83 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: really strange thing that happens to me any time I 84 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: get back into running. In the background, well, I say 85 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: get back into running as if I actually like to run, 86 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: and I actually do it, really I don't. But any 87 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: time that I do, UM, any time that I do run, 88 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: I get this like really really really crazy itch um 89 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: that like doesn't all the way that I kind of 90 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: have to train out of and run for a couple 91 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 1: of days. And so it's been super super annoying. And 92 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: I I would have to take an anti histamine anytime 93 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: I took even like two weeks off of running, and yeah, yeah, 94 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: and and that would yeah, that would get rid of 95 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: it completely. It would be like Papa anti histamine about 96 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: thirty minutes before run and then go out and run. 97 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: And usually I like to run tracks because I don't 98 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: I like, like I said, I don't like to run, 99 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: and like it just freaks me out to run anywhere else. 100 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: And so like after about eight hundred, I was like, 101 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: good to go on the itches and it will be unbearable. 102 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: And that's been something I've been dealing with for a while. 103 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: So I realized how much I've been thinking about it, 104 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: and like how much it was in my Google search 105 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: history recently because it's something that I refuse to see 106 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: a doctor about. I'm like, no, I'm better than this, 107 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: Like I can do it on my own. I'm fine. 108 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: I can run through it. If I run through, and 109 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm a better person, Like I don't know, that's that, yeah, 110 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: but it's just super annoying, and it's I've never heard 111 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: of this before. I mean, can you describe this just 112 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: the second you said it, I'm like, this is very 113 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: novel for me. But like, is it an isolated part 114 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: of your body that begins or you have like a 115 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: full body itchiness? So I have to say that I'm 116 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: also self diagnosing. Like I said, I haven't talked to you, 117 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: that's fine, talked to anybody official about it. But from 118 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: what I gathered from my very accurate Google searches, um, 119 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: it's it's like it's usually in my legs and I'll 120 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: fill it in my core as well. But It'll feel 121 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: like a million fire ants are just inside of me 122 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: and I can't scratch it away. Yeah, I can't scratch 123 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: it away. Um, And I realized, well, I'm linking in 124 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: my head. Um, that's fine, that's what we do here. 125 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: This is not a medical podcast or an actual no, no 126 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: no one's a professional here. It's a second rate rant sEH. 127 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: So I also like my nose runs like crazy anytime 128 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm doing any sort of cardio, Like when I would 129 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: go to high intensity interval training classes, I would always 130 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: be the one running out of the classroom to the 131 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: bathroom to blow my nose and was like, what what's 132 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: going on with me? Like nobody else is doing this? 133 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: Obviously that was in the before times. I'm not going 134 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: to any group exercise classes right now. But yeah, well 135 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean you can do that, h I I t 136 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: on on phones now I've been Uh. The first time 137 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: I did it was on an app and that was 138 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: that was an intensity I was not ready for. I 139 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: should have but it was written their high intensity. I 140 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: don't know why I thought HI doing it. I didn't know, h. 141 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: I Like, I didn't know what that was until quarantine 142 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: And then now there's all these ripped YouTubers screaming at 143 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: me every night. You just put it on and just 144 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: go to sleep. You don't Actually you're like, I don't know. 145 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: They just know I do I do the exercise. But 146 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, it's like this series of YouTuber that 147 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: I watched. Well, sometimes they'll like throw it in in 148 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: like and so they're like, we're going to whitch to 149 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: like h I T T. I was like, I don't 150 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: know what that is. And then they're like, we're gonna 151 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: kill you. Yeah, you're like ready to fucking ready for 152 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: the ladder, and you're like leveled up from Jane Fonda 153 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: and now I'm into some scary That's what I was saying, 154 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: because you've definitely you've you've marched through the Kingdom of 155 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: Fonda aerobics, and now you're saying like, is this is 156 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: this your queen? Is this all you have to offer me? 157 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,119 Speaker 1: And now you're looking passed a need for the Jane 158 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: Fonda table. There's more out there. It is. It is 159 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: a little weird to be yelled at and know that 160 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: that person doesn't have the actual feedback of you being 161 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: more motivated. It's like, yeah, you're yelling at me. I 162 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: feel really encouraged, but there's no way, no way you 163 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: can receive that right now, and it's kind of weird 164 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: on your end. Yeah. Well, I mean this is my question, 165 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: do you Jamie? Does this ever end with you doing CrossFit? 166 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: I feel like that is a step too far, but 167 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't know at this point. I wouldn't rule anything 168 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: out there, like Sonny would neg you into doing CrossFit 169 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: your dog. I'll recommend someone just because I was embarrassed 170 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: to be watching fitness YouTube, but then I found out 171 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: that frequent guests Sara June, uses the same fitness YouTuber 172 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: as me. Her name is Chloe Ting and she's so 173 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: nice And is that the person they asked if there's 174 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: a robot that I see an article today, like, is 175 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: Chloe Ting a robot? Why would they say that about her? 176 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: We're getting getting too caught up in fitness YouTube. Yes, 177 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: it is good. Whoa is Chloe Ting a robot? And 178 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: other facts about YouTube's She's not a robot? She seems 179 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: really nice. She's a robot? We have I gotta call 180 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: Isaac Asimov, stat Uh, what is something that you think 181 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: is underrated? M So I had to think really hard 182 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: about this. Um. But I think that saying I don't 183 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: know is underrated. Um, this is big. This has been 184 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: a new trend yet. Yeah, yeah, I think it is. 185 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: And and obviously it's really true that there is a 186 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: world of info like at our availability that we have 187 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: a media access to, Like that's definitely true. A Google 188 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: is a click away, like we have all of that 189 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: at our hands. And I feel very fortunate, you know, 190 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: to be able to look up whatever I want to, 191 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: including exercise induced or to carry it um to figure 192 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: that out. But I think that when you know, it's 193 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: definitely important when it comes to when we're uninformed on something, 194 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: like being able to say I don't know, it's just 195 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it feels kind of freeing 196 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: in a way where it's like I do. I would 197 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: say that I feel a lot of the time the 198 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: pressure to know everything because I know that I do 199 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: have all of that information at my fingertips. But I 200 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: also think in a larger way, in a scope, just 201 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: saying I don't know it's kind of freeing because there's 202 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: so much that there is uncertainty around right now when 203 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: it comes to the future, like and I think about 204 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: that specifically around abolition, like we have. We have a 205 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: lot of ideas about what we want to work, how 206 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: we want it to work, the kind of true that 207 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: we want to build, and the kind of world up 208 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: that we want to see. Um. But I think that 209 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: there is something very valuable in being able to say 210 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: I don't know around I have no fucking idea if 211 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: those ideas are going to work. I have no idea 212 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: how long they'll take to work. I have like, I 213 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: have no idea of what I'm saying right now is 214 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: the right thing, if it's the wrong thing, if you 215 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: want to put things in the binary like that. But 216 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: I think that there is a way in which, yeah, 217 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: saying I don't know around specific issues right now is 218 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: so important because there are so many people fucking talking 219 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: who don't need to be and then there's so many 220 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: people's voices who who need to be hurt that people 221 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: aren't listening to, and yeah, um like making sure that 222 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: those voices are uplifted as important and saying I don't know. 223 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: But it's also envisioning is being able to envision and 224 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: being able to assume risk, which I think obviously as 225 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: black people, I and if I can speak for the collective, 226 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: we are so risk averse for so many important reasons. 227 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: You know, we want to survive and we want to thrive. 228 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: But I think that saying I don't know, it's like, 229 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, we can open ourselves up to risk, and 230 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: we can open ourselves up to uncertainty. And that's so 231 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: that like that's okay, that can be okay, and we 232 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: can tell ourselves that that that's okay because right now 233 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: we have a lot of information that we do know 234 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: that we don't want. Uh. And in a way there's 235 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: comfort and saying like, well, I know how this system 236 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: is operating already, all that data has been there's centuries 237 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: worth the data, and on top of it, to your 238 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: point of the idea, especially around a lot of racial justice, 239 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: like this has been a field of academia for decades uh, 240 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: and there have been many people putting their life's work 241 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: into these into you know, theorizing these things and uh 242 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: and investigating them and trying to figure out what is 243 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: a tangible way to dismantle these systems of oppression. And 244 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: but then and I've said I think I said this 245 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: very earlier on that's where there's another layer of racism 246 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: that this form of academia runs into. Another like form 247 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: of gate keeping about sort of like what are these 248 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: black and brown people are gonna tell me about how 249 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: the justice system and there's things get held up and 250 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: we don't know that message doesn't reach the people it 251 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: needs to at you know, I think at the moment 252 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: they need it. And now I think with a lot 253 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: of this renewed enthusiasm or new enthusiasm from new people 254 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: who are joining this movement, yeah, it really is important 255 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: to say, hey, you don't have to commit. No one's 256 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: asking you to come in here a fully formed ally 257 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: who knows every dimension of oppression and how to like 258 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: dismantle it. The first thing is that you show your 259 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: enthusiasm for it. You're and then you're all open. You 260 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: are open to hearing things and you are open to 261 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: learning new things, just like everybody else is. Because I 262 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 1: think the way we get to where we are is 263 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: at a certain point. Motherfucker's go already know everything, so 264 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: I don't need to keep I know what's best. I 265 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: will keep going down this path and just funding the 266 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: police and law enforcement and let the budgets keep getting 267 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger and bigger, and you know, no support 268 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: for social safety nets etcetera. Uh, for sure. Yeah, And 269 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: I think that we often operate in the way where 270 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: we say we don't know so easily, Like we we 271 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: care a lot about science and about the parameters that 272 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: happen around science and know that it is a thing 273 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: that it's infinitely changing, and we know that that's the 274 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: foundation of science, is something that will never know everything. 275 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: And the reason that we have science and that we 276 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: have experimentation and that we have continuous learning is because 277 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: we know we don't know everything. And like, just applying 278 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: that to this, I thought, what can't tell me anything new? 279 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: I already heard everything. I've already seen every episode of 280 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: Lawn Order, So conversation is over. Yeah. And I think 281 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: what's also interesting too is, you know, smart people especially 282 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: I think, actually have the hardest time saying they don't 283 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: know anything, especially if your self perception is like, oh, 284 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: people come to me for information or I'm I've been told, 285 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: I've been of like I'm sharp or whatever. I find 286 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: that that is a thing even for me, like I've found, 287 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, through years of therapy, being able to be 288 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: able to say, yeah, I don't know that, even though 289 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: like you have, I know, for me personally, as a child, 290 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: like trying to know everything or get good grades. Like 291 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: started a habit of like trying to know everything, but 292 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: it didn't give me to the healthy place of like 293 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: actually the pursuit of knowledge and wisdom, which is to 294 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: then put your ego in the fucking trash and say, 295 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: bring me all of the information so I could just 296 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: blow my mind open. Yeah, well, I feel like, oh no, 297 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, yeah, I agree with him. 298 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to say that I'm totally 299 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: implicated in that as well, and thinking like I'm a 300 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: black woman. I know about blackness, and like, you know, 301 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: my experience is mine and really getting caught up in 302 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: my singular perspective and like really having to unlearn and 303 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: learn things in terms of like, okay, I'm staying from 304 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: my specific worldview. A transperson's life, a black life is 305 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: nothing like my black life is. And a person who 306 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: is like from a different part of Georgia, like, even 307 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: if it's that small um than I am, because I 308 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: grew up in the suburbs of Atlanta, like their life 309 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: is going to be very different than mine, even if 310 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: they're a black woman as well. And just like snapping 311 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: myself out of that. Mhm, yeah, I've I've felt that, like, 312 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: and I wonder if it is connected to like how 313 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: we are programmed to learn in America, where I think 314 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: that there are times where if you don't know something 315 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: and someone tells you like that's not right, or like 316 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: I don't think you understand what is being said here, 317 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: that there is like a tendency to take that very 318 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: like personally and be like, what, I don't know something. 319 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: You know, It's like there is a tendency to take 320 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: it personally. I've felt that in in the past as well, 321 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: and it's like just unlearning that mentality of like if 322 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: someone tells you that you don't like first of all, 323 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: if you're not able to say you don't know something 324 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: and you get it wrong, like you have to not 325 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: make it this like battle of the ego to just say, oh, okay, 326 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm listening, um, which a lot of people true with. 327 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's just the I think that's the 328 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: other thing too, is that it's so much it's a 329 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: lot harder actually to lead to say you don't know, 330 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: but it's actually the best thing you can do. I 331 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: think you know that actually is a demonstration of higher 332 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: aptitude because you can learn anything the second someone tells 333 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: it to you. But it's hard to put that ship 334 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: aside and say, I don't know what you were talking about? 335 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: Would you mind telling me about that? I think can 336 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: be you know, depending on how you look at yourself 337 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: a difficult thing, especially when it comes to the politics 338 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: and people's identities repped them boy, Okay, moving on. What 339 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: is something that you think is overrated? Eves? So something 340 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: that I think is overrated is d I y anything 341 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: like doing yourself? Um, I just moved and like there 342 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: is there were various things to do, Like when I 343 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: moved into my new place and I was like, I 344 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: can do everything. And this is coming from a place 345 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: I can probably say that I've kind of gotten out 346 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: of this, but like often growing up, I didn't want 347 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: to ask anybody for help, and I still struggle with 348 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: that often. And I'm like, I can build this ship 349 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: on my own. I know what I'm doing. This isn't 350 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: going to fall apart in the rain, right, yeah, Like 351 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: I know how to do all of this, Like I'm 352 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: going to paint the whole house, And I'm like, girl, 353 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: you you first of all, you don't have to do everything, 354 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: Like there's there's no way you can do everything. And um, 355 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: I think the struggle that I have with it is 356 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: like I know that most of the time, but I 357 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: also really enjoyed making things, and so there's this back 358 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: and forth between if I d I why it, I'll 359 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: have so much fun, Like I'll be crafting it in 360 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: and I'll prove to myself that I actually have leisure 361 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: time and I'm not always about productivity and work and 362 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: like that type of thing. Are you able to relax? Eves? Yes? 363 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: Actually yeah, yeah. I the way you were sort of 364 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: like going through your mental path having like and I 365 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: am able to do leisure activities. I was like, oh wait, okay, 366 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: so how do you how do you get down? How 367 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: do you relax? Eve? Yeah? I do. I will say 368 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: it's very intentional. That's something that I like, I've learned 369 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: a lot through a lot of my yoga teachers. Honestly, Um, 370 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: how important rest is just following a lot of people 371 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: who I you know, I like what they're doing, like 372 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: what they're saying about when it comes to rest and sleeping, 373 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: and knowing that I can't be here on this earth 374 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: to do things for people if I don't relax. So 375 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: I have to be really hard and soft at the 376 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: same time. And myself when it comes to relaxing, um so, 377 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: I think like it doesn't even have to be super big. 378 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: Like I love naps, so I'm like, I'm good for 379 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: a nap. Nobody can tell me that I can't nap. 380 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to do it. Um So that happens, um 381 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: and then I what else do I do to relax? 382 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: I like I like to sit in silence and meditate 383 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: to relax, I use the portal app. No, It's like 384 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: I'm always I can't look when I know when I 385 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: meet somebody who's a creature of solitude, it's an app 386 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: that's like these like I think like Emmy win sound art, 387 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: like recordists got these soundscapes from like a rainforest or 388 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: like a plane in the UK, or like a mountain 389 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: in the Alps or whatever. And it's just like like 390 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: ambient noise, which I like to meditate with because it helps, 391 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: like you know, put me in the zone. This is 392 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: not spawn is simply I know, this is like the 393 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: saddest It sounded like, yeah, the saddest cry for them 394 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: to get put like do some ad spend on the show. 395 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: But I'm like I'm I'm just preaching the gospel of portal. 396 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, the d I Y thing, I think it's hard. 397 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: I I started off thinking I could do everything, and 398 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: after a few attempts at some like sort of complex 399 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: electrical work, I was like, no, this is not this 400 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: is not happening. I will pay somebody to Yeah, it's 401 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: not worth burning my house down or you know, injuring myself. Yes, 402 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: something I've come to terms with on d I Y 403 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: stuff because I also love to make stuff and I 404 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: love the like I could do a thing like that, 405 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: like stubborn pride that I have about some stuff. But 406 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: then it's it ends up even if I can do 407 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: it correctly, which often I just flat up can't. It 408 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: takes so much time. And then you're like, I've lost 409 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: days of my life to not successfully making twelve year 410 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: olds on YouTube did in seconds. So yeah, but that 411 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: you do realize that that video was like d times wads. 412 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: I think, I don't know. I've been getting into quilt 413 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: YouTube and they make a lot of ship look easy 414 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: that it is. Don't get into don't get too deep 415 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: into quilt tube. Um, and what is finally eaves, what 416 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: is a myth? What is something that people think is true, 417 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: you know, to be false or vice versa. So I 418 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: don't know if this is an overall myth, but it's 419 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: something that it's a sentiment that I've been seeing a 420 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: lot lately on the Internet that's been floating around, and 421 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: that's that black women shouldn't be told or don't need 422 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: to be told that we're strong. UM. And I definitely 423 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: understand the sentiment because it's coming from a place where 424 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: so often our oppressors specifically are the ones who are 425 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: telling us that, like, we don't experience pain, and that's 426 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: in a very established way, you know, when that comes 427 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: to UM, the medical industry, UM just always saying that, 428 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: and I know so many of us have had personal experiences, 429 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: but saying that are we don't experience pain, that we're strong, 430 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: that we're tough, that we can make it through this, 431 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: that we can make it through that there's the superhuman stereotype, uh, 432 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: that we can do all of that. And I think 433 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: that yes, in that manner, like our oppressors don't need 434 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: to tell us that we're strong, because if we take 435 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: it contextually, we know their intention behind that, and we 436 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: know that so long, what public health has meant for 437 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: Black women and black people in general. Is death like 438 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: public health equal death when it came to black people. So, um, 439 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: I think, yes, all of that is true, and I 440 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: just wanted to preface it with that because obviously that's 441 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: the case. And I also can't speak for anyone specific 442 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: black woman wanting or not wanting to be told that 443 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: she's strong, because that's her preference and it's up to 444 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: her and it's it's that's one how that makes her feel. 445 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: But I can't speak for myself and that I want. 446 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: I want black women to tell me that I'm strong 447 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: because I feel like, in a way, telling telling black 448 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: women that are saying that we shouldn't be told that 449 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: we're strong. It's kind of affirming the idea that we 450 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: are by by nature strong like it's affirming the it's 451 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: affirming the oppressor's language and saying that we should assume 452 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: we're strong. But I often need affirmation and confirmation from 453 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: other Black women to tell me that I am strong 454 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: because there's some sometimes I don't feel like I am, 455 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: and sometimes I need somebody to tell me that I am. 456 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: And that feels really good when it's coming from other 457 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: black women and from other black women who I know 458 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: that I love specific typically and and close to specifically. 459 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: And I think that there there are like caveats to 460 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: to the statement like black women shouldn't be told they're strong. 461 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: Well yes, and just like a both and type of situation, 462 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: they're some I'm just there. I think everything is really 463 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: like loaded like that too. I've had discussions with some 464 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: like professors who you know, are like so in sociology 465 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of black history, and I've even heard 466 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: from them just sort of like the nature of the 467 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: kneeling and how that is even viewed like from a 468 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: historical context problematic to see that as like kneeling in 469 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: front of the oppressor as a form of protest has 470 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: all of this historical context behind it of the subordinate 471 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: servant uh and blowering themselves to the master and things 472 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 1: like that. So at every turn, right, there's all everything. 473 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: There's every there's so many dimensions to the ways that 474 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: we can either protest or find strength in our existence, 475 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: but there's always this other historical backdrop to that. I 476 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: think everyone we always have to be conscious of because 477 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: there's all these roots, like to the point of you know, 478 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: this fallacy or this like medically perpetuated myth that like, yeah, 479 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: black women, well we prescribe less pain killers. Um. That 480 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: that is all going back to this idea of you know, uh, 481 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: the slavery and the idea that these black bodies are 482 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: used to create revenue and are efficient at doing that, 483 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: and that continues. So yeah, thanks important myth. Yeah. Um, alright, 484 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: well let's take a quick break because that was a 485 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: pretty heavy over under in myth. I appreciate that. Ives. 486 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: Uh sorry, I've to someone I went to high school with, 487 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: uh different person. Um, so thank you for that, Eves. 488 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: And we will come right back and talk about some 489 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: news right after this. And we are back, and it's 490 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: time to check in with America's good friend, toxic masculinity. Uh. 491 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: There are so many many things happening at the moment, 492 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: and there's just a few of the top stories are 493 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: just sort of all kind of centered around this idea 494 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: of this phenomenon of toxic masculinity. The first is about 495 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: Alexandria Casio Cortez. Uh. So you know, alc has been 496 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: a very vocal member of Congress if you haven't heard, uh, 497 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: and conflict with GOP house members is not something new 498 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: for her or many vocal progressives in the House. Um, 499 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: but you know, I think since white supremacy is trying 500 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: to fight back, it's it's causing a lot of conservative 501 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: congress people and leaders across the nation to get like 502 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: really unnerved when people are like accurately describing white supremacy 503 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: or forms of oppression that aren't tied to like but 504 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: they took our jobs, rather than saying like, no, this 505 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: is systemic racism, or that you know, poverty is actually 506 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: the root cause of crime and that police actually isn't 507 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: the answer to crime, because if we look at crime 508 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: for what it is, it's it's a lot of the 509 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: crime we're talking about is because people have lost any 510 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: sort of support system and are turning to crimes of desperation, etcetera. 511 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: This apparently upset uh Congressman Ted Yoho from Florida to 512 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: the point that he like pulled up. So Alexander Kazo 513 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: Coort says, she was leaving the Capitol building and then 514 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: this guy just confronts her like out in the open saying, quote, 515 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: you were out of your freaking mind. Uh. This was 516 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: after her talking about poverty and unemployment. Is the spike 517 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: for crime in New York city, not because we're you know, 518 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: we're not standing behind our police or whatever narrative there 519 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: is to vilify people standing up for themselves. And she 520 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: said okay, and then as it went on, she just said, 521 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: you know what, you're being rude. And after they parted 522 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: to ways and he was going down the steps, he 523 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: said he called her an FMB and then just kind 524 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: of kept moving. Uh. She was saying, like, I'm she said, 525 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: this is new. This this kind of like in your 526 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: face conversation to do because the way she put it was, 527 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: for the most part, a lot of the house members 528 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: are able to put their part is in, you know, 529 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 1: fighting appetite at the door and keep that for the 530 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: floor of the house and then when they go out, 531 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: it's not like hey mother, I'm gonna debate you right 532 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: now screaming your face. So this is some new new 533 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: it's like a new level of mask off, um like 534 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: coming like during official discussions. Also, I thought it was 535 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: pretty rich that Yoho's office only. First of all, Yoho like, 536 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm I just giggle every time I hear it because 537 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: it's very pirate energy. Um. So, so Captain Yoho sent 538 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: a but his response, first of all, he like the 539 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many bad elements to this story, 540 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: but the fact that after the fact he like like 541 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: demonstrably did that um, which I mean leaves AOC with 542 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: yet another um thing to deal with and have to 543 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: have having to take time out of her day to 544 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: speak to and clarify. But then Captain Joho's office sent 545 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: their response straight to the Daily Caller, which is just like, well, 546 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: if you really need to make it clear that you're lying, 547 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: make a statement to the Daily Caller. And he said 548 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: that he did not call um AOC any name at 549 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: all and just flat out denied the entire thing. It's 550 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: just it's not surprising, but it is like it is 551 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: a new level of mascot, I mean toxic masculinity. Rule 552 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: number one, never apologize to a woman for something you've said. 553 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's release a statement to the Daily Callers 554 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: saying that she's lying. It is I don't know, I mean, 555 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: like there's their responses seem more like fiery uh now, 556 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: because I think if you for people who are able 557 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: to look at systemic racism, white supremacy and say, yeah, 558 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: that exists, and that's here and that explains a lot 559 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: of these things. If some people are just turning the 560 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: channel now and being like that explains everything I've done, 561 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: and it's not this entire worldview I've been like, like 562 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: ingesting this entire my entire life. That's not real. There's 563 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: this really intense backlash to it. But as I said, 564 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it's how it's the only way you can 565 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: ensure the survival of something like white supremacies to have 566 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: its defenders like this, We're going to get in someone's 567 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: face and intimidate or attempt to intimidate them because they're 568 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: speaking truth to power. Yeah, I mean, if there is 569 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: anything to be taken that is not completely negative out 570 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: of this story, because it is just horrible. But the 571 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: fact that he got that shaken up by her words 572 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: to the point where he felt the need to react 573 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: just straight up aggressively in public, uh, speaks a lot too. 574 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean the fact that she you know, there's a 575 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: lot of value in what she's saying and how through 576 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: she's challenging it. It doesn't at all justify the backlash. 577 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: But it's like if Captain Yoho feels that strongly where 578 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: he cannot stop himself from saying aggressive language like that 579 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: to her. I mean well, I mean, I think seeing 580 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: the waning influence or like the sanctity of not criticizing 581 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: law enforcement since that is waning. That is really I 582 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: think upsetting to a certain brand of racist who sees 583 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: the police as the good stewards and shepherds of racism, 584 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: who will intervene when called and and do what they 585 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: have to um and even like this week, like I 586 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: was calling into a l A County Board of Supervisors 587 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: meeting where you know, there's been this proposal to amend 588 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: the budget to shift money away from the Sheriff's department. 589 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: You know, they don't need three hundred thirty million more 590 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: dollars that can actually be shifted into communities. And it's 591 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: interesting when you hear the people call in to give 592 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: public comment who are opposed to it. It's all through 593 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: this lens of you know, I'm concerned about my sayde 594 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: or what have you, But really it's like I need 595 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 1: my I need my attack dogs, and if those are gone, 596 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: then who do I How can I terrorize black and 597 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: brown people or people who are different than me in 598 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: and using you know, the the I guess the vagueness 599 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: of law to you know, enact that. So it's it's 600 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: I think it's happening at every level as depending on 601 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: how deep the reckoning is. Uh that any sort of 602 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: body decides to engage in terms of reckoning with racism. Well, 603 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: he certainly made himself look like an absolute clown here. 604 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: Ah yeah, and you and you hate to see it, 605 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: you really do. And Okay, and then so moving on 606 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: to uh, you know, Judge Estra Solace's husband was shot 607 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: and her only son was murdered a few days ago. 608 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: And you know, in the beginning, many people are like, 609 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: what is going on? How did this? What? What is 610 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: going on? This federal judge had like a like a 611 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: hit basically at her home. Was it the dot to 612 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: bank case that she's overseeing. Doesn't have you know, people 613 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: like don't have someone to do with Epstein? Uh, this, 614 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: that and the other. And then a picture began to 615 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: emerge of this lawyer with a well documented past of misogyny, 616 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: like a men's rights active, like before the term was 617 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: really out there, this guy was out here using his 618 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: legal degree to you know, cape for misogyny. Um that 619 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: this man was the suspect. Uh. They found him a 620 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: few hours later, uh from dead of a self inflicted gunshot. Wound, 621 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: and the they figured out this man actually had a 622 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: case in front of her, but it was a lawsuit 623 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: in which he was representing a woman and her daughter 624 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: because they wanted to like register for the like selective Service, 625 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: and because they couldn't, they wanted to just basically say 626 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: that it was unconstitutional because it barred women from registering, 627 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: And it was just very weird like lawsuit just because 628 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: it like sort of fits in this his body of work. Um. 629 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,719 Speaker 1: And this guy, this, this guy, roy Den Hollander. He's 630 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: been like he's been sort of on the radar of 631 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: like political commentators, like legal commentators for a minute, because 632 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: for years he's been doing these really like lame lawsuits, 633 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: like you know for people who have been like studying 634 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: his history. Apparently things went south when he, like his 635 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 1: he got divorced from his wife, who he like felt 636 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: like just got got with her, got with him to 637 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: get a green card. Um, and then like that sort 638 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: of was sort of like the inciting incident for him 639 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: to go down this like legal march for men's rights. 640 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: Like he sued Columbia University for that, accusing them of 641 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: preaching quote a religionist belief system known as feminism. Uh, 642 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: and because they were using like, uh, you know, money 643 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: from the federal government to do that. He was like, oh, 644 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: this is completely this is a total perversion of the 645 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: separation of church and state. Uh. He's sued bars for 646 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: having ladies nights. Um, this is just kind of the Yeah. 647 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: But it if I think, what's like really sort of unnerving, right, 648 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: It is like it starts off with this sort of 649 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: fringe h character who is using the law to and 650 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: you know, just sort of making headlines with these ridiculous lawsuits. 651 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: But that gives way to sort of like this like 652 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: this was before we were there terms like in cell 653 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: or m r A or anything like that was really 654 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: part of like the discourse or anything like that. This 655 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: was just more like this, this guy is doing that, um, 656 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: and now we're seeing it come play out to the 657 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: point where he's uh, you know, allegedly committing these crimes. 658 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: It's just very I don't know, this is a very 659 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: dark Yeah, that's super dark. It does sound like and 660 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the feeling that you got 661 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: from from from learning about it, but that kind of 662 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: idea of whatever he went through, I think he said 663 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: with his wife being the inciting incident for for everything 664 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: that he did. Does it seem like that's kind of 665 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: a thing that they're trying to move accountability from his 666 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: actual actions And I think it is incident. No, I 667 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that. That's like anything that the news has 668 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: said in terms of trying to like this is just 669 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: from like the body of articles I've read about him, 670 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: where like this is from years ago where someone was 671 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: like doing a profile on him, and he himself was 672 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 1: saying like this, like this was something that happened to him, 673 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: and I'm not and I don't I don't see and 674 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to go down that road to like 675 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: singularly attached it to this trauma or whatever. But it's 676 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: He's definitely has this, uh just vendetta for anything that 677 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: is related to like women exercising agency over their bodies 678 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: or this idea that a business would accommodate a woman, 679 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: uh like like to and say like, well the men 680 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: should get that too, and they're like, why isn't there 681 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: men's you know, like that's just sort of the mean 682 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: or even asserting themselves over his personal opinion seems like 683 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: worthy of retaliation on his end, like it's, yeah, this 684 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: story is very very dark end and it it is 685 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I would be interested in I didn't know 686 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: about this story, I would be interested in learning more 687 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: about you know, it's it sounds like he's it's the 688 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: sort of thing where you start by sort of testing 689 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: the waters of like, Okay, what can I accomplish legally 690 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: to to uh, you know, further my beliefs and make 691 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: it clear that I am not on the side of 692 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: feminism it's a religion, on and on, and then you know, 693 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it does seem like Estra Solace is possibly 694 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: a wall of like, oh I can't get what I 695 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: want accomplished in a legal way. Um, yeah, this is 696 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: this is so sad. Yeah, it's I think it just 697 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: shows too, like there are things that we start off with, 698 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: like certain fringe idea ideologies and things that it's easy 699 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: to dismiss because on its face, it's like it's so absurd, 700 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: and it's like kind of goes against everything what most 701 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: accepted discourses or the tone of society is right now. 702 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: But it shows you that it goes from laughing at 703 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: something too then turning into something very violent and dangerous 704 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: because it can gain momentum and I think it's important 705 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: that you know, just just being vigilant about these things, 706 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: not necessarily this uh, this specific person, but there are 707 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: a lot of things that I you know, uh uh 708 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: ideologies that you see now that was easy five years 709 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: ago to laugh out, and now we're seeing, like, you know, 710 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: Q and on, uh, followers of Q and on begin 711 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: to make like make headway into actually becoming members of 712 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: Congress and next. I just this has been something I 713 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: has been going on last week, but I just want 714 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: to talk about Ruth Bader Ginsburg really quick. Um. She 715 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: if you have any reason to vote uh in November, 716 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: at the very least, you do it so this woman 717 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: can hang up her robe and live out the rest 718 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: of her days in peace. This uh the Supreme Court 719 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: justice man she has been hanging on. Uh Now she 720 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: says she's been very strong, and I leave that, but 721 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: I feel like someone at this point, I think if 722 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: there were any other administrations, she might be more open 723 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: to retiring. But given the tone of how this Senate 724 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: works and what this president's aims are, it's all about 725 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: putting in more absolute just rubber stamps for whatever the 726 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: Conservatives want done in this country or want dismantled. So 727 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: if anything would happened to her, we all know that 728 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell would be more than willing to fill this vacancy. 729 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: And she last week she went to the hospital for 730 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: a possible infection that ended up being okay, but still, 731 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I just remember that like every news thing 732 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: I read Twitter, anyone's like, oh my god, are we 733 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 1: anytime they hear that Ruth Bader Ginsberg is in the hospital, 734 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: It like, uh, people have a very visceral reaction to it. 735 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 1: I think given that what has happened with when Justice 736 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: Kennedy retired, uh, and then seeing that whole confirmation of 737 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: Brett Kavanaugh, and even Gorset's before that. But it's just 738 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: a very very uh, I think for people who have 739 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: their head in the game in terms of looking how 740 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: a lot of these legal cases and up at the 741 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, that this is something that isn't uh we can't, 742 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: I guess not. It's not that we're taking it lately, 743 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: but it does have it could have dire consequences if 744 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: something awful were to happen. Yeah, RB, I mean, I 745 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: it is never not baffling to me that you know 746 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: the fact that it very like a figure like Ruth 747 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: Bader Ginsburg remaining alive and healthy, um could possibly affect 748 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: so like literally everyone in the country is like for 749 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: the health and well being of one uh, like elderly 750 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: person people's rights hang in the balance. That just doesn't 751 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: seem like a good system. Uh. And I mean it's 752 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: like I'm like kind of critical of like the cult 753 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: of RBG. There's a lot of good stuff written about it, 754 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: where I just you know, like, no, you know, making 755 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: politicians like clebrities above reproach is never a good move. 756 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: But in this case, it's i mean just speaking to 757 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: her her health and and the fact that her health 758 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: is connected to the well being of the country. Like, 759 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: it's just it just reminds me of how flawed that 760 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 1: system is. That just like we shouldn't have a system 761 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: where that's the case. Yeah. Yeah, And it just feels 762 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: like a power on I mean, just emotionally collectively, it's 763 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: like how much more can we take? You know, just 764 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: thinking of it from a non logical standpoint and a 765 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: purely emotional one is just like this on top of 766 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: everything else, um that's happening in I think is it 767 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: would seem almost unbearable and having to think about that 768 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: even potentially being a part of our future. I think 769 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: it's just it's a huge toll. Yeah, And I think 770 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: yet to your point, Jamie, like that's why a lot 771 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: of people who are trying to sort of find ways 772 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: to amend this system we have or like we need 773 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: terms like it can't just be lifetime appointments, because then 774 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: the balance of power can be complete be thrown off. 775 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: You get another conservative judge in there, and it's fucking 776 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 1: lights out effectively for a lot of progressive causes and issues. 777 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, like then it's not just like it, it's 778 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: it's every single thing. It could be, from the water 779 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 1: you drink, to the people we like are welcoming into 780 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: this country who are seeking asylum, to the rights of 781 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: trans people, to the to the systemic racism that's going on, 782 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: or like every single thing. And it just shows you 783 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: how when the system is like that, how easily it 784 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: can be manipulated, because conservatives can just play a game, 785 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: will be like, well, maybe Ruth Bader Ginsburg has to 786 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: retire or something, and then we can strike and then 787 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: install somebody, and then the deck is completely stacked lopsided 788 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: for generations, right, Yeah, I find I find it very 789 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: um ghoulish. How like our entire country now has to 790 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: like frantically be refreshing their news feeds to see if 791 00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 1: like someone is sick or not, Like it's Ruth Bader 792 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: against Burg. Should should be allowed to retire? She is 793 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: very old. Uh so many but but the consequences of 794 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: that are so great that of course she's not going 795 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: to Um. Yeah, the way the Supreme Court is set 796 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: up is um stupid. I don't like it, hot take. 797 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: She she did want to tell people like you know, 798 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 1: uh because when the next time she went into the hospital, 799 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: it's the news came out that she was undergoing chemo 800 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: for her liver cancer. As she had a statement that's 801 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: had quote, my most recent scan on July seven indicated 802 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: significant reduction of the liver legions and no new disease. 803 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 1: I'm tolerating chemotherapy well, and I'm encouraged by the success 804 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 1: of my current treatment. I will continue bi weekly chemotherapy 805 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 1: to keep my cancer at bay, and and I am 806 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: able to maintain an active daily routine. She's been treated 807 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: for cancer five times, um, and it just feels like 808 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: a lot of responsibility to be put on somebody to say, like, 809 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure she's thinking, well, if I leave, who are 810 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: they going to put in? And then what happens? And 811 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 1: that's just it. Yeah, And I feel guilty for for 812 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: for wanting her, you know, to stay through that. I'm like, damn, 813 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: what kind of person am I to know that a 814 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: person has been through something that is so so taxing 815 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: on your body and want them to continue using their 816 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 1: body and all of their strength and energy to fight 817 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: for an entire country. It's it's like, it feels very 818 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: weird to yeah, to like be on your feet like 819 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: this EIGHTI seven year old woman can't retire, Like can't 820 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: I want to die on? I'm not sure? No, Like yeah, 821 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: I hope she's well like yeah, yeah, but again it's 822 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: it's your show. I remember when Kennedy said he was 823 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: going to retire. I almost like I was like like 824 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: a wave washed over me. I'm like, oh my god, 825 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: now they get another se Preme Court pick. Uh. And 826 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,760 Speaker 1: that brought along with it another just awful, awful public 827 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: display of lack of morality or humanity. Um so yes, 828 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: it is. It is very harrowing to be like just 829 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: praying every day that this person can make it to 830 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 1: the election. Uh and pass that. All right, Let's let's 831 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: take another quick break and we'll come back to talk 832 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:40,720 Speaker 1: some other stuff after this. And we are back, And 833 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: do you guys remember Patricia and Mark McCloskey that name Ringabell. 834 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 1: I didn't. I couldn't. I couldn't tell you these people 835 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: by their name, except I remember the photo with the 836 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: woman's mustard stained shirt with no trigger discipline, pointing a 837 00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: handgun at unarmed peaceful protesters and her husband, big dog Ark, 838 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: with his cool little khaki and pink polo number, Uh, 839 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: just brandishing a R like is it like it ain't nothing? Um? 840 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 1: It was. It was a very It was the probably 841 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: one of the more photos we had seen of this 842 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: like frightened, uh, like upper middle you know, upper class suburb, 843 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: white flight family just being like, oh my god, they're 844 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: they're here. Uh, and so sort of seeing like how 845 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: it plays out in people's minds based on their media diet. 846 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 1: But we've heard their side of the story about why 847 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: they had to do the brave thing to defend their 848 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: castle because the pro the peaceful protesters breached the gates 849 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: of their anti poor fort or gated community and therefore 850 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: was caused for concern and the brandishing of weapons. Uh So, 851 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: now it turns out that they have been charged with 852 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: unlawful use of a weapon, which is a felony. But 853 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: fear not because the governor of Missouri, Mike Parsons, since 854 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: you said, oh yeah, if if they're convicted, I will 855 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: probably in all likelihood pardon them, He's like, well, they 856 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: look like my neighbors, so probably I'll just let them 857 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: get away with it. I am so sick of hearing 858 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 1: about these people. Um, can we just like put them 859 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: in a panagram and bury the panagram? Like, I'm just 860 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: so sick of these people? Yeah? Yeah, I feel like 861 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: this is one of those situations two miles like you 862 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 1: were talking about earlier, how it starts off as something 863 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: that just seems very very joking, joking, and like we 864 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: we got all these pictures and we got all these means, 865 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: but like, wait, hold on, they were pointing guns at people, 866 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: and whenever you point, you're ready to You're ready to 867 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: kill them, even when your finger isn't on the trigger. Yeah. 868 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if you are the response responsible gun owner 869 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: that you claim to be, you know that pointing a 870 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: gun at someone means death, period, Right, And then seeing 871 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: the I mean, it's like that I understand that, Like 872 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, the memification of it was always going 873 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: to happen if it to an extent makes sense. But 874 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: to see the conversation like being making fun of this 875 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 1: couple for not knowing how to hold their guns and 876 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: then just kind of skipping over the fact that they 877 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: were holding guns, like, it's like, yeah, I think, but 878 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,800 Speaker 1: that all depends on your level of engagement with the issue. 879 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: Like if you are assist gender, the heterosexual white guy 880 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: who likes guns and you've never known oppression, you look 881 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: at that image and you laugh because in your mind, 882 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: you would have been busting licking shots at these people 883 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,919 Speaker 1: because they better not be coming on and I damn 884 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: sure know how to use a gun. That's why my 885 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: criticism of this image is that they weren't doing enough 886 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 1: or even if I was responsible gunner, my the thing 887 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: that is offensive to me is the gun usage. And 888 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 1: that's what's interesting to see how everyone brings thing. Most 889 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 1: people have sound conscience will go and say, oh, my goodness, 890 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: these people are just pulling out the straps because these 891 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,720 Speaker 1: people are peacefully protesting against systemic racism, and your response 892 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: is to pull out the strap. That must mean you 893 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,479 Speaker 1: are there to defend white supreme See that's in my mind, 894 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: that's what I see too. Like do you also can 895 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: see this fear in these people of whatever, this fear 896 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: of a black planet, brown planet sort of mentality is 897 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: of like, it's the fourth quarter for us, honey, and 898 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 1: we're not We're no longer the m v PS. Is 899 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: this really? It's yes, the fact that they continue to 900 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 1: perpetuate this idea, like all of the protesters are the 901 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: ones who are trying to start the civil war when 902 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,959 Speaker 1: you are the ones with the guns in your hand. 903 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure if a civil war happens, is 904 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: going to happen with arms and ammunition. Yeah. And I 905 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: mean even now, like you look at the federal you know, 906 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: the Fed police, the DHS or ice troops that Trump 907 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: is sending into cities. I mean, how long till some 908 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, some racist people want to cosplay as those 909 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 1: people and say, oh, well, these people don't have to 910 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 1: identify themselves, and they're disappearing people and snatching them up 911 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: off the street. What's what's stopping me from dressing up 912 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: like them? Even though I'm not law enforcement and enacting 913 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,320 Speaker 1: the same ship because this everything is so kay addict 914 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: right now, it's just very you see all the elements 915 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: there for something awful, awful, awful to happen. But it 916 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: seems like every time like people who are the activists 917 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 1: and the people in the streets are finding a way 918 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: to not take it there, even though clearly the opposition 919 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,399 Speaker 1: is always sort of goading people into some kind of 920 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: direct violent confrontation. But again, yes, right right, it's like 921 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 1: we're always on this precipice. Yeah, it is, and it 922 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: does feel like that. Now, let's just check in with 923 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: Trader Joe's because again, you know, I think anyone that 924 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: has patronized the Trader Joe's knows that they like to 925 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 1: funk around with the names and be a real witty, 926 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 1: especially with the ethnic food. And it seems like those 927 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 1: days are coming to an end again because many people 928 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 1: are trying to have a reckoning and saying like, is 929 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 1: whiteness the default for everything? Is that the baseline for everything? 930 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: And if so, let's look at that and begin to 931 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 1: examine that and deconstruct that. Um So, Trader Joe's, you 932 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 1: pribaly seen names like Trader Ming's Arabian Joe's, Trader Jose's, 933 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: Trader Joe Those and Trader Joe Soon shout out to 934 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: the Japanese half, you know, like it's on there all 935 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: kinds of yeah, you've never seen your Trader Joe's. Wait what, 936 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 1: I haven't been in a minute, but oh yeah, always 937 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 1: yes that like if it's like a haban Eiro thing, 938 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 1: or it's like something like like Mexican food, like an 939 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: enchilada or something on the thing, it won't they Trader Joe's, 940 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: the Trader Jose's and like, um, and I think for 941 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: there's a huge petition going around being like people need 942 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 1: to sign up against this bullshit because it's so fucking 943 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: disconnected from like the times right now, and also in general, 944 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: like it's written from the point of view where whiteness 945 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: is the default. So if whiteness is the default, then 946 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,360 Speaker 1: this thing that is haban Neiro sauce now has to 947 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: be Trader Jose's. Or if it's Gilza or pot stickers, 948 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: now it's Trader Joel Soon. Uh. And it's just just 949 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,359 Speaker 1: like lead, I think, like lame mass marketing ship that 950 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,359 Speaker 1: was like left over from the nineties, when like your 951 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,280 Speaker 1: entire boardroom is just like white marketing people who aren't 952 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 1: going to take a second to be like, is that 953 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: is that the best thing? Oh? Yeah, yeah, so that's 954 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: and and wasn't this um this petition to UH was 955 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: also started by a teenager? Oh yeah, I didn't have 956 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: no idea. I believe I was pretty excited for both 957 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: for the person who started the petition and the fact 958 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: that it accomplished something relatively quickly. But it was it 959 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 1: was I believe it was a teenager who created an 960 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 1: online UH petition and it got a huge response, and 961 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: then Trader Joe's kind of responded relatively swiftly. The fact 962 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 1: that this existed in the first place is so yeah. Yeah, 963 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: it does kind of feel like like like, well, we 964 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for 965 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: those mentally kids, because there's a part of the warders. 966 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 1: Why spend the time on creating all this different kind 967 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 1: of marketing in the first place where you could just 968 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 1: stay standard, Like was it actually helpful to them in 969 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,320 Speaker 1: terms of marketing in anyway? I mean, I know they're 970 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: never a need for justification of white supremacy, and it 971 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 1: perpetuates itself for no reason, But it's that exotification of 972 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 1: whiteness mhm right in a very cute way too. That 973 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: it's just like in such it's the same way like 974 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: you know white people will get together and like laugh 975 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: and you know be like oh Audi Goto and just 976 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: like ha about it, you know, having their sushi dinner 977 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: or some ship. That's the same mentality to be was 978 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 1: like you don't be really fun is if we don't 979 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 1: call him Trader Joe. And I don't know if you 980 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,720 Speaker 1: remember the Karate Kid, but that Japanese guy Mr. Miyaji 981 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: or whatever, he was like Daniel San. So we'll call 982 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: it Trader Joe San. And now it's it's like cool, 983 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 1: It's like it's like authentic now right, It's like this 984 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:02,399 Speaker 1: is a grocery store. So well here's the thing. So 985 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 1: along with that petition, they talk about this sort of 986 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 1: like the mentality of Joe the man behind the first 987 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 1: Trader Joe. Like how that first store, the first Trader 988 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: Joe store, had a nautical theme. Most Trader Joe's stories 989 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: do have some kind of like net netting or like 990 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,439 Speaker 1: buoy's or some ship like kind of on the wall. Um, 991 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 1: but the first one was run. Yeah, they had the 992 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: nautical theme everybody were called like, they were described as 993 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 1: traders on the High Seas. And at the time, Joe 994 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: of of Trader Nous had been reading a book called 995 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: White Shadows in the South Seas and this is all 996 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 1: from this petition website, and he'd been to Disney and 997 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: he had been to the Disneyland Jungle Trip ride, and 998 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: it all just coalesced. To this day. Trader Joe's crew 999 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 1: members consider themselves traders of the Culinary Seas and are 1000 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 1: known for their bright and are known for their bright 1001 00:54:52,640 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 1: tropical themed patterned shirts. Oh story, yeah right, I look like, yeah, 1002 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: that's that's so embarrassing and the like, yeah, the only 1003 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: time referencing the jungle, like the Jungle Cruise ride. If 1004 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,760 Speaker 1: you're referencing that, it better be about how it woke 1005 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: you up about how you need to like like liberate 1006 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: animals from captivity or some sh it like that. Not 1007 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: like and that gave me a cool idea. Yeah, for 1008 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 1: like five, this is a whole last vibe actually, so 1009 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: just to clarify, Yeah, it was a seventeen year old 1010 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 1: high school senior named Brianna. I'm not I don't know 1011 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: if I'm saying her first name correctly. Brianna's biddell Uh, 1012 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,280 Speaker 1: the seventeen year old started this, and now Trader Joe's 1013 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 1: uh is going to stop being casually racist, like it's, uh, 1014 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 1: that's a jungle trip, really, I mean it's like and 1015 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: then look up the history of the trip. What's even 1016 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 1: funnier is this book that he was reading, The White 1017 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 1: Shadows in the South Sea. There was a film that 1018 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 1: was made out of it, and it's about like the 1019 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 1: terrible legacy of like sieve trading companies and like pulling 1020 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: up in the South Pacific and just decimating cultures, taking resources, 1021 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 1: pillaging and then bouncing off with their spoils so they 1022 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,280 Speaker 1: can begin to profit off of their uh, their trade 1023 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,479 Speaker 1: routes and like. But the movie is kind of weird 1024 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: too that people are saying that even though like it 1025 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 1: obviously just talking about the negatives of these trading companies, 1026 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 1: it also has like these other really bad tropes of 1027 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: like Noble Savage and like the White Savior ship. Uh So, 1028 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 1: in the end of the day, like this is the 1029 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 1: trader thing at all comes from a I don't know, 1030 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 1: some dude who got really into his seafaring ship. And 1031 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 1: then I mean it makes sense in that sense the 1032 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 1: logic their funge like, well, yeah, we're plundering the earth 1033 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 1: and stealing shipped from people, so why not bring it 1034 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 1: back to our shores with like these funny names that 1035 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 1: they can all laugh at. Well, the good thing is 1036 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 1: the petition did go somewhere. But well, I guess more 1037 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: in the sense that someone from Trader Joe's claimed that 1038 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,879 Speaker 1: like they had already resolved or like resolved to end 1039 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: this naming convention for their products, and they're like, it 1040 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 1: was actually years ago, but it just needs some time 1041 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 1: to reach all of the packaging and products, like as 1042 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 1: we roll out new designs, then they're gonna be there. 1043 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 1: So like, but yeah, but we knew, but we knew, 1044 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,319 Speaker 1: but we knew sort of like we gotta we gotta, 1045 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: we gotta got it. We just haven't done it yet, 1046 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: but we were going we were actually going to do 1047 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: that anyways, So thank you for your suggestion. But I 1048 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: actually thought of that two years ago. So thank you. 1049 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: Oh man, well Eves, thank you so much for joining 1050 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: us today on the dailies like Geist, where can people 1051 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,959 Speaker 1: find you? Follow you, listen to you on the many 1052 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 1: shows that you do. Yeah, thank you for having me. 1053 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 1: Um you can find me. Admittedly I am pretty bad 1054 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 1: at social media, but you can find me at Eves 1055 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: of Co on Twitter. I am at not apologizing on Instagram. 1056 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 1: UM just finished up This Day in History class, but 1057 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 1: you can still listen to it at This Day in 1058 00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,439 Speaker 1: History Class UM, also on Unpopular and you can listen 1059 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: to me on those shows. That's that that, that's it, hey, 1060 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: and people love Bridget Todd around these parts. You've also 1061 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: done a show with Bridget two, Yes, I have. How 1062 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 1: could I forget Apropunk Solution Sessions, UM, which is an 1063 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 1: amazing show and Bridget is an amazing person. I love 1064 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: hosting that show with her. And check that one out 1065 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 1: too perfect. And is there a tweet or some other 1066 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 1: work of the social media that you're enjoying? Yes? Uh, 1067 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: y'all definitely gave me a run for my money on 1068 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 1: this one and figuring it out. But um, I oh 1069 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: so okay here it is so at Michael Harriet said, 1070 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 1: one of y'all didn't turn to your neighbor and repeat 1071 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: after the pastor, And now the whole country is on 1072 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 1: the sick and shedding list, which as a as a 1073 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 1: person who grew up in in the South and in 1074 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 1: the Baptist Church against my will. Um and yeah, so 1075 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 1: I kind of related to that heart and I think 1076 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: we all can relate to the COVID bullshow happening right now. 1077 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: So oh absolutely, Uh Jamie, Jamie, thank you for coming 1078 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: coming by and help me, helping me out, helping this 1079 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: old substitute teacher out while before the kids realize he 1080 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's talking about. Where can people find 1081 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 1: you and follow you? And with some social media stuff 1082 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 1: that you like. You can find me on Twitter at 1083 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus help. You can find me on Instagram at 1084 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: Jamie christ Superstar. I'm looking for something I enjoyed that 1085 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 1: I first saw on social media. Um was that Ashley 1086 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 1: Ray did an interview with MICHAELA. Cole for L magazine 1087 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 1: this week. It was just like writer, I love and 1088 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 1: I've really been enjoyed. I've like, I'm a big fan 1089 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,600 Speaker 1: of MICHAELA. Coles. It's a really good interview. Um, if 1090 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 1: you can find it on I I found it linked 1091 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter originally, and um, yeah, it's a good read. 1092 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 1: It will make you want to deactivate all your social 1093 00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: media accounts in a good way. So yeah, man, that's you. 1094 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: You realize how easier it is to relax when you 1095 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 1: don't like doom scroll all day. Uh, it's a little 1096 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 1: bit of care. Okay, Well, some tweets that I am enjoying. 1097 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 1: The first one is from at Luca is amazing. It 1098 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 1: says pronouncing popsicles like an ancient Greek name popsicle. I 1099 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: don't know why I so uh. And the other one 1100 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: is from at Krista Peter su. I think she couldn't 1101 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 1: fit the end on there. It's in the tweeted just 1102 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 1: me in the parents parentheses reading philosophies what I don't know. 1103 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 1: I really resonated that was as someone who tried to 1104 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 1: get into philosophy and college and was too high when 1105 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 1: he came to class and didn't have enough dedication to 1106 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 1: the topic to endure all that. But you know, I 1107 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: see you out there. Uh. You can find me on 1108 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray uh. And also 1109 01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: my other podcast for twenty Day Fiance. So if you 1110 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 1: like any Day Fiance and just want to get a 1111 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 1: trash roundup, you just stopped by. 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