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Speaker 1: Here we go, Jim Hody.

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Speaker 3: Of that Mike a little poker today, huh, Phil helm

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Speaker 3: youth gonna join this show. This is very, very exciting.

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Speaker 1: Mike.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of what Stu Gotts is like

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Speaker 4: Is he the guy that you want like to keep

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Speaker 4: in because he just bleeds money like Stu Gotts? Are

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Speaker 4: you the guy that just throws down throwing another hundred,

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Speaker 4: no big deal? Or are you the guy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I'm the guy. Are you the shark? I'm the guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm the guy who never stops. And of course you

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Speaker 3: want me at your poker table. I'm stuck, Gotts. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we wouldn't want me at the poker table.

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Speaker 4: Somebody who could beat, somebody who could take my money

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Speaker 4: is somebody I don't want my poker table.

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Speaker 3: I'm not someone who can take your money. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, I am not the guy.

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Speaker 3: I've been taking Dan's money for years now, but I

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Speaker 3: am not someone but not Yeah, but if not poker,

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna chat you up. I mean we're gonna

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Speaker 3: talk sports. You'll get a couple of Kevin Durant hot tanks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if we're in Vegas, I'll give you something

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Speaker 3: on the Vegas Golden Knights, the Raiders, I mean, Jerry

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Speaker 3: Tarcadian and that un l V team. Oh god, Mike.

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Speaker 4: Are you the kind of guy that somebody asks you

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Speaker 4: to go to play poker, and you're like, who's at

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Speaker 4: the table, And if it's not a certain level of person,

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Speaker 4: you're like, no, I'm out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah pretty much. Yeah, I go to the high end tables, Mike,

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Speaker 3: and I don't care if I lose. I just want

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Speaker 3: I just want to sniff money. I don't care if

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Speaker 3: I lose on this one. I'm smelling someone else's. I

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Speaker 3: mean that. Listen before Phil comes on, and Mike, the

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Speaker 3: reason I'm excited is, this is the Michael Jordan of poker.

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Speaker 3: This is whoever you think the greatest baseball player ever is,

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Speaker 3: Barry Bonds? For me, this is the Barry Bonds of poker,

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Speaker 3: the Wayne Gretzky of poker. Right, I've given enough examples there, Like,

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Speaker 3: it's very rare where you get a guy you want

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Speaker 3: to call it a sport, you want to call it

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Speaker 3: a skill. Who is the Michael Jordan of something? And

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Speaker 3: Phil help me, is the Michael Jordan of poker? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I am irrationally excited just because I keep saying Michael Jordan,

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Speaker 3: I'm an excited Mike. We have the Michael Jordan of something. Mike,

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Speaker 3: it's the first time. Oh no, we had Tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: We had Tom We had Tom Brady. Yes, we had

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady. Listen, you know what I'm gonna do here.

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Speaker 3: I hope you're preparing for it. A quick game of

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Speaker 3: athletes that can know poker at that. All right, let's

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Speaker 3: do it. Kelly again, Chip Kelly, you and Chip Kelly

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Speaker 3: you're a one trick pony. You really are. What a

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Speaker 3: lame pony to be on the Chip Kelly pony? All right?

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Speaker 3: I got Ace Custis. How about that Ace Custas. He

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Speaker 3: an excellent about Raymond Felton. A little felt, A little

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Speaker 3: felt on the table, Mike Patrick, Queen, Who do you got?

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Speaker 3: Patrick Queen? Oh? Patrick Quaen? I thought you said I

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm the custodian Jack Doyle, Deuce McAllister. I

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Speaker 3: am prepared for this. Nicola Joki, the joker, boom stupendity.

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Speaker 3: Let's bring on Phil helmeut the Michael Jordan of something. Oh,

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Speaker 3: Bunky Reeseyes, ah, Pokey Reese is it might be the

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Speaker 3: think of clubs, spades. Oh David Spade, how about that? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: how did I not get that? Considering him in Dallas page,

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Speaker 3: There's got to be a guy who's like last, Like

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Speaker 3: right o, Joe sinco am I that little A five?

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Speaker 3: I mean you would fold? You would fold? Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 3: What are you laughing at? Phil? We were playing We're

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Speaker 3: playing a quick game of athletes and entertainers that can

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Speaker 2: I felt that's obscure. I mean Draymond with Draymond film

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Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook? So I Tiger Jim every year, right, and

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Speaker 2: Westbrook Westbrook's the hell of a poker player. He plays

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Speaker 3: Really, who is of the of all the celebrities you

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Speaker 2: I mean Ben Affleck and Toby Maguire are really good,

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Speaker 6: have made the joke. Does anyone love the flop more

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Speaker 2: Right, and I mean he's his game's just gotten No,

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Speaker 6: If I was any good at this, I would have

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Speaker 6: asked Phil if anyone loves pocket threes more than Steph Curry.

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Speaker 2: Back to stupidity and so I host the Warriors charity

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Speaker 2: poker tournament every year, which is right.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to get in that. I mean, is that possible?

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Speaker 3: Can we make that happen? Yeah, you have to fly

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Speaker 3: out here, though, I would fly out there because I would.

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Speaker 2: It's fun because the players play, Yeah, I can ask.

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Speaker 2: Here's a lot of skill when it comes to poker,

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Speaker 2: and he just has great patience.

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Speaker 6: I also would have asked him the stuff despised twos. Oh,

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Speaker 3: Draymond Green is the guy who never shuts up at

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Speaker 3: the poker table, alright, he has to Hey Day is.

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Speaker 2: The coolest guy, and like he'll lose, like if he

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Speaker 2: He doesn't like the basketball. Brat does not translate. So

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Speaker 2: And then I played one of Draymond and I losing

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Speaker 2: It shows me losing it and then Draymond losing it,

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Speaker 2: Just because he's so similar to me as far as

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Speaker 6: Seriously, though, how the fuck did I not make the

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Speaker 6: DRAYMONDE flopping joke? Stupidity. That's back to the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Phil helm Youth is with us. His new book, hashtag

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Speaker 3: Positivity You or Always in the Right Place at the

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Speaker 3: Right Time, is at wherever books are sold. You teach

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Speaker 3: eight important life tips and explain why you are always

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Speaker 3: in the right place at the right time. I'm going

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Speaker 3: you know what, Let's do it right now. Give me

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Speaker 3: an example where Phil has been in the exact right place.

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Speaker 3: The greatest example of you being in the right place

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Speaker 2: Phil, Oh my god, I have such such amazing examples

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Speaker 2: of me being in the right place at the right time.

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Speaker 2: But I like to tell this story for the people

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Speaker 2: company called fluid Form. There's three D printing valves and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, they're coming to a professional poker player

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Speaker 2: I know what I provide. I mean, it's a sheet

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Speaker 2: industry specific ballers, but he decides to hire me. Well,

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Speaker 2: platelet rich plasma PRP. That's the surgery that Kobe had

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight. Well, my friend, one of

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Speaker 2: US and three overseas. He's a man that invented PRP surgery.

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Speaker 2: And I just thought this is so bizarre. So I

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Speaker 2: number one plate that rich plasma guy on the planet,

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Speaker 2: you know. And so it just felt like, for that

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Speaker 2: brief moment, I was the center of the universe. How

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Speaker 2: does this amazing firm from this amazing university on the

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Speaker 2: East Coast come to me? And then how in the world,

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Speaker 3: You like Jack Nicholas said, tigers breathing down your neck,

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Speaker 2: I said, man, you were the great you It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: But did you get dad to would finally admit Phil,

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Speaker 3: Go ause you know where the school is because you

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Speaker 3: picked them up, Like, you know, you could get them

433
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 3: to school if you had to in an emergency because

434
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 3: you know where it is. Fell I picked them up

435
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 3: every day.

436
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 2: I got their teams, you know, I coached their their

437
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 2: soccer and their basketball teams. I was the worst basketball

438
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 2: coach in history, but but I did. But I did,

439
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 2: But I did do that, and I do understand basketball.

440
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, so, I mean I was there,

441
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: I refed their games, and so you know that's that's so.

442
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 2: But I mean for my wife and I that dynamic

443
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: of me traveling and you know, sometimes I'd come home.

444
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 2: I'm home for like three weeks, and then I felt

445
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 2: like going, you know, I felt like going. I mean,

446
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 2: I get attention on the road. I'm I'm this great,

447
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 2: I'm the greatest, I'm dah da da da. I'd go

448
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 2: on the road, you know, I'd get all this attention

449
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: for me being filled, and then you know, and then

450
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: and then I'd come home and I just couldn't wait

451
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: to come home. I'd cut every trip short. I'd come

452
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: home and my wife would tell me to take out

453
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: the trash and blah blah blah. That didn't last long.

454
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: We had a full time made by the late nineteen nineties.

455
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: It came in five days a week, a lot of

456
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: stuff that you want to do because you don't want

457
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: to spend time doing other things. So but it's really

458
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: worked well for she and I and you know, and

459
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: we spent a lot of time together at therapy, a

460
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 2: lot of time because I think when you win the

461
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 2: main event when you're twenty four, you go from you know,

462
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 2: zero self esteem, no grades. I wasn't a great athlete,

463
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: my dad wasn't happy with me. You go from that

464
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 2: to winning the main event, it blows your mind, right,

465
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: It's a normal thing and your egos out of control

466
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: of course, and you know, and so a lot of

467
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Speaker 2: therapy has helped me with that, and I mean, she's

468
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: completely changed my life.

469
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 3: New book hashtag positivity. You are always in the right

470
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: place at the right time. The Michael Jordan of poker

471
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 3: phil Helm Youth is with us, or perhaps Michael is

472
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: the phil Helm Youth of basketball. I mean, I don't know.

473
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 3: I don't know which you way to do that. I've

474
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 3: been wondering forever that nickname poker brat. Is that something

475
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 3: that fills you with pride or does it annoy you?

476
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it is what it is, right, So I

477
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 2: did not want to be I guess. I guess I

478
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: wanted to just be known. I guess when I kind

479
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 2: of gave myself the name poker brat back in like

480
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 2: two thousand and one, when I gave myself that nickname,

481
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: actually I felt like people are going to see through it.

482
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: And as we became in two thousand and two, three, four, five,

483
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: sixty seven, has poker exploded and the numbers went crazy.

484
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 2: I always assumed that everybody would figure out I was

485
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 2: actually the good guy at poker. I always assumed that

486
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 2: everybody would figure out that I'm a guy that's never

487
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: cheated on his wife in all these years, that I'm

488
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: not an alcoholic, that I'm not a huge drug guy,

489
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: that I'm not you know, that I'm a family guy,

490
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: and that I lead a life that hopefully people a

491
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: lot of people would aspire to lead.

492
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Speaker 6: Right.

493
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't the young guys heroes like you know, Phil

494
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: Ivy in the biggest private jet, in the biggest suite

495
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 2: at the nightclubs, you know, just kind of like and

496
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: everybody who's nineteen wanted to be Ivy. I figured I'd

497
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: get a lot of people that were, you know, hey,

498
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 2: I want a stable family life and poker and so

499
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: but it just didn't happen. I mean I never really

500
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: and but people immediately by two thousand and seven eight

501
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: they started saying, hey, wow, Phil's really not a bad guy.

502
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: He loses He's like John McEnroe. So I was, you know,

503
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: very polarizing. So a lot of people actually hated me.

504
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 2: Uh you know, Leonardo DiCaprio told Doyle Brunson that he

505
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: hates me or something. You know, that was a I.

506
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: Don't want to be honored, to be honest with you, if.

507
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 2: This was like ten years ago, and he watches poker.

508
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: He loves to see me go broke, and he loves

509
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,479
Speaker 2: to see me wine and lose them. So polarizing is

510
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: the word. And I think I think by now I've

511
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: converted most of those people that didn't like me to

512
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 2: liking me because they realize, you know, I mean, if

513
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 2: you ask anybody in the poker world, everyone will say

514
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: that I'm really a really great person. You know the table.

515
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 3: God, I want to see you need the poker brack.

516
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 3: How does this work for a guy like you? Like,

517
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 3: do you scour poker rooms looking for tables full of suckers? Like?

518
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 3: How does that work?

519
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: Never?

520
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: No?

521
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, The interesting thing is this, Like imagine this Stu

522
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: Gott's pretty simple analogy. You're looking at a pyramid, okay,

523
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 2: and all of the lower you look at the very

524
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 2: bottom level, it's all the home games, right, people playing

525
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,719
Speaker 2: at home. And then the next level is casinos. And

526
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: so then the next level after that is is the

527
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: bigger casino games. And then when you get to the top,

528
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: it was generally Vegas or l or some of the

529
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: East coast, And so what happens is money flows upward.

530
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: So everybody that's really good at home. Game wants to

531
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: test their metal at the next level, and the next

532
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: level and the next level, and so the money flows

533
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: up to the top, and so right away in the

534
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: nineteen eighties, I was already playing in the biggest games

535
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: in the world, and I was already making money. But

536
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: I was kind of you know at that point, and

537
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 2: then have a great reputation for all the games. At

538
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: that point. I was great at Nolam at Hold Them,

539
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: and I spent a lot of time cutting my teeth

540
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: learning all the other games, you know, at a world

541
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 2: class level. It took a long time for some of

542
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: those games. And so generally speaking, I'm playing with my

543
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: billionaire best friends out here in Silicon Valley in a

544
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 2: private game. If I go to New York, I might

545
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: play with the New York billionaires. Chicago, I'm gonna play

546
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: with Chicago billionaires. Houston, I'll play with the Houston billionaires.

547
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: Those games are out of control.

548
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: Big.

549
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: I go to La, I'm playing with a bunch of

550
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: the guys from LA, the billionaires.

551
00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 6: Hey, Phil, we get it. All your friends or billionaires

552
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 6: fuck back to stupidity.

553
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: So it's private stuff. Or if I go to Vegas,

554
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 2: I'll sit down usually not in the biggest games in Vegas.

555
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: I'll sit down on the secondary games because you know,

556
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 2: I don't like I don't like I don't like swinging

557
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty K five hundred K a night

558
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: in Vegas. And I've just found a huge run in Vegas.

559
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: I just keep winning every trip there and and but

560
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: generally speaking, I play in the biggest games all over

561
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: the world, and then you never have access. The only

562
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 2: time I have access to, you know, I would say

563
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 2: only time I have access to a lot of other

564
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: poker players is when I'm playing you know, World Series

565
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: of Poker tournaments. And then I play with anybody and everybody,

566
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: and that's a challenge in itself as well.

567
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: What's the uh? And I imagine whatever happens in those

568
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: private rooms private games, stays in those private rooms and

569
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: in those private games. So I'm not going to pressure

570
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: on that, although i want to so fucking badly.

571
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 5: Film I've brought athletes in, I brought athletes and movie

572
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 5: stars and team owners into into into my game up

573
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 5: here in the Bay Area, and some of that stuff

574
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 5: we can talk about.

575
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: And then you know, and then you look at the

576
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: private games in La and you know, one of my

577
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: friends now has you know, some of the biggest names

578
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: on the planet playing this game regularly. And you know,

579
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: I mean these guys, you know, take a win or loose.

580
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty thousand is not you know, not

581
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: that much more. The more regular swing is more like

582
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: one hundred k. So so yeah, you really have some

583
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: huge names in the game.

584
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: Mike, I want to ask, have you ever been at

585
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 3: the table with Jeff Bezos? Like I just want to

586
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 3: start guessing a billion.

587
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: Well, Bezos is Bezos. I was supposed to. I was

588
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: supposed to hang out with him at this I think

589
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: he does this event called mind Spring. I'm probably have

590
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: it wrong, but Amy Tan, you know, the author invited

591
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: me to go hang out with Besos, I don't know,

592
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: ten years ago, and I was just too busy. You know.

593
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: At that point, I'm getting paid everywhere I go, right,

594
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: And so if I'm in New York, I'm being paid.

595
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: If I'm in Florida, I'm being paid. Someone's paying for

596
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: my suites and and all that stuff. And usually I get,

597
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: you know, fifty thousand a day for stuff. And so

598
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 2: that's been going on for a long time and then

599
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: when you're that busy, it's kind of hard to show

600
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: up and do stuff you want to be. You want

601
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: a social life, so I want to I want to

602
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: be with my friends. I would rather with the group

603
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: of friends I have I play high stakes poker with.

604
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: I would rather have a nice dinner with them, and

605
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: and and and sit down and talk, because that's you know,

606
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I need that. But but it's also fun

607
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: to play poker. And then the egos get a little.

608
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: Out of control all the way some bad winners.

609
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: Bad winners are fun right when they when someone's just

610
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: smashing you and just in your face, and you.

611
00:29:53,360 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: Just like, I've never been a bad Oh god, damn it.

612
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: How could you play an off suit? I'm going off

613
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: And the first years they would film.

614
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: Me except for that one time when you told your

615
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: dad to eat it. Phil, you told your dad to

616
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: eat it, then you were a bad winner. Wait, what's

617
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: the coolest poker table you ever found yourself playing at?

618
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: Is there a tamla? Is there a night that sticks

619
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: out for you where it's just loaded with celebrity that

620
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: you could talk about? Obviously, I've had fun.

621
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: I remember I remember once I was playing with with you, know,

622
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: Kevin Hurt's always fun, right, right, And I remember just

623
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: I remember we had like the number one artist in

624
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: the world that I want to mention names, and the

625
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: number one comedian in the world, one of the number

626
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: one basketball players in the world, and you know, I

627
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: think of myself as the number one poker player in

628
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: the world. Although they're trying to fight that they won't

629
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: give me any credit at all, but you know, and

630
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: I just thought, wow, this is such an amazing one

631
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: of the most famous business people in the world. And

632
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: I just thought, wow, this is amazing and and uh yeah,

633
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: and that was two years ago. But I've also been

634
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: at some crazy time when I used to host events.

635
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: I was do an event at Sundance Film Festival and uh,

636
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: you know, and there were so many stars. When I

637
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: have the microphone. When I host these events, I have

638
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: the microphone and so I have the mic. It's just

639
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: filled with stars, you know. And I remember asking one guy, Hey,

640
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: what's your name, because just to give him some credit

641
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: on the mic, I'm on Green. This was back in

642
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: you know, five, and man, this is this is I'm

643
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: a big fan of I'm a Green, big packer guy.

644
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: I just started laughing. Because because if I didn't ask,

645
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: I would never have known because there were so many

646
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: other huge stars there.

647
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: You know, Rogers ever played with you? Yeah, I was

648
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: just asking a brother Rogers story.

649
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: So we're I'm at Aria Hotel, which is, you know,

650
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: a big sponsor on mine, and they had the Michael

651
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: Jordan tournament. They like, Phil, you know, I have to

652
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: be there a certain number of days, like, hey want

653
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: you to come in for the Michael Jordan event. I'm like, okay, cool,

654
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: it's a golf event. And I said, and they said,

655
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: and I said, I'd prefer not to golf. I have

656
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: to get up in the mornings. And I said, okay,

657
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: well we want you to show up and kind of

658
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: support our and be around. You know, doctor Jay's there,

659
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: and I mean, it's just this huge and Rogers was there.

660
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: And so I told a guy at the at one

661
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: of the bars, High Limit Bar is kind of where

662
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: the biggest celebrities in the world hang out. You'll catch

663
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: Jordan and Gretzky and all these huge stars there. And

664
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: I told the guy, I said, Hey, if Rogers comes in,

665
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: can you text me. I never do that and uh,

666
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: And I went to take a nap and I woke

667
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: up and I'd been texted like twenty times, and I'm

668
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: like shit, and Rogers has been at the bar and

669
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't make it down there, and I'm like,

670
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: damn it.

671
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: It is a bad time, terrible yet.

672
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it's amazing how many people I have met.

673
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, not him, not yet.

674
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: All right, So Aaron is a friend of WURS, he's

675
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 3: a friend of the show. I am going to make

676
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: an introduce an introduction to uh for you and Aaron Rodgers. Okay,

677
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: but listen, I'm not going to do it without asking

678
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: for something in exchange.

679
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is yet.

680
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: But Phil just spit up his coffee.

681
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: Wanted me to get you into the Warriors film.

682
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: And one might say, wrong plays wrong time with Aaron Rodgers. Phil, Oh,

683
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 3: come on, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It was totally unnecessary.

684
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: You're right, Mikey has a question for you. Go ahead, Mike,

685
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: we'll get you out here. I was just I was

686
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: just wondering.

687
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 4: I mean, you're not going to some event where you're

688
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 4: playing basketball when they're all coming to your world. What

689
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 4: is it like to like, like you're the main guy

690
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 4: in this world that they're all ras too.

691
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

692
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: I mean, somebody pointed that out the other day when

693
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: when I ran into Drake, uh, you know, a few

694
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: days ago and and uh and you know, and I'm like, man,

695
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: I'm glad that he didn't have me tackled by a

696
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: security regards. I've only met him once and he gave

697
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 2: me this huge and he's like, well, Phil, they're in

698
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: your territory now, And I thought, yeah, right, Drake is

699
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: a fucking star, way way way up in the sky.

700
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 2: I'm not even close to him. But yeah, I mean,

701
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,959
Speaker 2: I do think that. I do think for me, I'll

702
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: say that I'm not nearly as big a star as

703
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: all these guys. But it does seem like my fans

704
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: are super intense. So, you know, it seems like when

705
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: my name is mentioned to five people, when maybe four

706
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: don't know if I am, the fifth person's like, that's Phil.

707
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: So it feels pretty intense. My fans are intense. And

708
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: then when you're in Vegas, yeah, it feels like it's

709
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: loaded with my fans. One thing I've noticed, which is

710
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: really weird is ever since I became famous, it's really

711
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: weird how I'll be in a room with a bunch

712
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: of a listers and I want to leave them alone

713
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: sort of, and they flock over to me. You know, yes,

714
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck? I mean, Wow, you know,

715
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: I guess I'm pretty fucking cool man. I mean, I'm

716
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: so such a badass, and you know, you know, and

717
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 2: then and that's my ego. I remember. I remember once

718
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: I was in the area and I'm and I went

719
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: to dinner and I told my wife, I said, honey,

720
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: it was the one restaurant that wouldn't deliver. I just

721
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: finished like fourth in the tournament. I was exhausted, and

722
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: I wanted to order from, you know, the Mexican restaurant, Hoavier's,

723
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: and so I had to go get the food in person.

724
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: And I just said, huh, I think I'm going to

725
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: run into somebody really big. I think I'm going to

726
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: see MJ. I knew he was in town, and I

727
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: did go through the high limit bar on the way

728
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: to the food to kind of make it happen. He

729
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 2: wasn't there grab my food. And at the last second,

730
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: I'm walking back and I said, I'm going to take

731
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: the long way back up. I'm going to take the escalator.

732
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: I'll stay out of the public Eye, you know, where

733
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: one get stopped is off and it hit the top

734
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: of the escalators and there's MJ with this guy Pops

735
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: and he's walking like two miles an hour and I

736
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: always walked super fast in Vegas. And I'm coming up

737
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 2: and I slammed my sunglasses on and I'm like, a

738
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm not gonna bother MJ. We've hung out

739
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: a bunch, but I don't want to bother him, you know.

740
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: Let me just get my food and go straight to

741
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: my room. So I go by and I nod at

742
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: them like I'm like MJ, and he's like Phil nods back,

743
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: and I'm gone on and I hit the corner and

744
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: I hit the next and I hit and I opened

745
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: the VIP door up, you know, and I always look

746
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: behind it. I'm from Wisconsin, and it's amazing how many

747
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: times someone stuck up behind you and you want to

748
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: open the door for them. That's the way I was raised.

749
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: So I opened the door and it turns out MJ's

750
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: run to catch up with me, and I'm like what,

751
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: MJ's run to catch up with me, and I'm like,

752
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: come about that. We're talking and we're talking, you know,

753
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: and I get up the next day and someone's emailed me.

754
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: This is when Obama was still president. Obama was asking

755
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: how you're doing it the World Series of Poker. I'm like,

756
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: Obama knows what, and I'm like, I'm a bad as

757
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 2: and dude, I swear to god, I was such an asshole. Okay,

758
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: I was so I was so well, I guess, yeah.

759
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: I wouldn't often call myself an asshole, but I call

760
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: I was so egotistical. My mind was so puffed up

761
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 2: that for two weeks I wanted to tell everybody about

762
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan and Obama. And I did not keep my

763
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: head down. I did not do good work. I think

764
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 2: I was on ninety nine Cash is the World Series

765
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: and number hundred was going to get me all this press.

766
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean, And just for two

767
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: and a half and even cash and I just kind

768
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: of laughed at myself and I said, man, how puffed

769
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: up did you get? And how ridiculous was your ego?

770
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 2: You couldn't even focus on poker for two weeks and

771
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: you just wanted to tell everybody. Wanted to be out

772
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 2: there bragging, bragging, bragging, and so you know, I think

773
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: I think now a much more mature version of me.

774
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: You know, A lawn musk came to my you know,

775
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: my book launch party, and I said, oh man, how

776
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: puffed up I going to be from this?

777
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 6: We take a quick break from the pot cast to

778
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 6: let you know that we know Phil's going to need

779
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 6: a shopping cart after he picks up all the fucking names.

780
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 6: He dropped Jesus back to stupodity.

781
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: But then I started reading my autobiography every day for

782
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: you know, the audio version of Poker Brat, and reading

783
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: that kind of the ego wasn't really in effect because

784
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: I read about how hard it was for me, you know,

785
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: growing up, you know, with bad grades and everything, and

786
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: so that kind of saved me. And so I'll use

787
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: that technique if I'm feeling a little bit too puffed up,

788
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: which happens. At least now I see it. My wife says, hey,

789
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: your egos out of control.

790
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: We see it.

791
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: It's an easy fix. We couldn't fix it my twenties,

792
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: couldn't fix it in my thirties, But now I can

793
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: read my autobiography at least or start focusing on you know.

794
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: My fourth tip of the day from the book positivity

795
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 2: write down your blessings and put them on your bathroom mirror,

796
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: and then those blessings is not meeting oh it is

797
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: not meeting Obama, or those are my goals. Those health

798
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: in those blessings is fifteen world championships and my wife

799
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: and my kids, and then you know, but man, it's

800
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: it's easy to get puffed up. And you know, I

801
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: call it mind. It's easy to have your mind blown.

802
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 2: And then you know, that's the worst thing that can happen.

803
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: Happens to athletes. And as you get older, you get

804
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: better at that. And I still haven't mastered it.

805
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: But elth Smeuth, I want to meet Jordan. I mean

806
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: hashtag positivity pill. Helm Youth is with us. You are

807
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 3: always in the right place at the right time. Teaches

808
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 3: eight important life tips and explains why you are always

809
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: in the right place at the right time. It is

810
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: available wherever books are sold. Two quick things we'll get

811
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: you out of here. One quick game, Helmuth or go

812
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: to helm Youth. Okay, okay, you got it. I'm gonna

813
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: ask you a series of questions. If you like it,

814
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: you say Helm Youth. If you don't, you tell everyone

815
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: to go to helm Youth. Got it?

816
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I got it, and then we're.

817
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: Gona play strip poker. Just wait.

818
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: I just shot for Hustler magazine a few days ago

819
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: and there was no strip poker involved.

820
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 3: Okay, listen, I am telling you this game is rigged

821
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: for me to lose. Okay, you cannot use this game.

822
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: You can't lose it. It's impossible. I'm telling you, all right.

823
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: Taking more time than necessary to make a decision. Helm

824
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: Youth or go to Helmuth.

825
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 2: Go to helm Youth. Jesus, I hate him when they

826
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: studied thirty seconds every day and just hold your hand.

827
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: That's exactly what we were looking for. Being in the shower,

828
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: Helm Youth or go to Helme Youth.

829
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: Being in the oh. I like showers, I'm gonna say,

830
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: Helm Youth, Yes, a nice hot shower.

831
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: You know.

832
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: Be a little bit older too, you know, loosens up

833
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: the bones a little bit. I'm lucky have great health,

834
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: but I like it.

835
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: All right, not acting in turn, Helm Youth or go

836
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: to helm Youth.

837
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: Go to helm Youth. I mean, that's very rare that

838
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: that happened. It's that charity poker tournaments. People act out

839
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: of turn. I have the mic. I just let it go.

840
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: But still, you know, when you're in a professional tournament,

841
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 2: go to Helm Youth, because come on, you know, I mean,

842
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: you're showing everybody you know that you're going to fold

843
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: out a turn. It's really not that big a thing.

844
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: So can I go.

845
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: Figa, Yes you can. You can do whatever you.

846
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: Want, Phil, So I'm going with go to Helmut.

847
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: All right, go to help you. Thank you taking the

848
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: anchor position in blackjack when you don't know how to play,

849
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 3: help youth or going to help you. I do that

850
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: all the time.

851
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: That is that is, that is go to that is,

852
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: go to Helm Youth. But I understand I'm a little

853
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: more sophisticated. You have this whole plethora of players that

854
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: play blackjack, and they want everybody to play perfect, and

855
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: if the guy on the end makes a mistake and

856
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: it costs everybody, they all go crazy and they all

857
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: say something schneid or you know, or or or passive

858
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: aggressive and sometimes they grab their chips and they storm off,

859
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I just think to myself, well,

860
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: all right, that's I've won as many times as i've

861
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: lost by that person making a bad decision, so you know,

862
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: but I'll still say go to Helm Youth, you.

863
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: Know, talking when you are out of the hand. Help Youth,

864
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: I know the answer to this, or go to Helm Youth.

865
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: I think the hand Oh okay, wow, wow, you grow up, Phil.

866
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: If it's if it's a if it's a pleasant conversation

867
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: happening in the background, yes, if you know, obviously no

868
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: professional would talk about somebody's hand in the middle of

869
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: a hand so so yeah, yeah, I feel like, you know,

870
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: sometimes it can be annoying when you're filming and someone's

871
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: in some long comor like story and you're trying to

872
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 2: figure out whether somebody, generally speaking, people will shut up.

873
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go

874
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 2: go to Helm Youth. You were right, but I'm gonna

875
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: say that, you know, seventy eight percent of the conversation,

876
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: I don't mind. How about that?

877
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: Right, that's fun complaining about bad beats Helm Youth or

878
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 3: go to Helm Youth.

879
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: So everybody else hates it when people tell bad beat stories,

880
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: and generally speaking, I don't want to hear bad beat

881
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: stories from a lot of people, but you know, from

882
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: the people that I love, if they want to say,

883
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 2: oh my god, this happened to me. I will listen

884
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: to lend us sympathetic here. But but generally speaking, nobody

885
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: wants to hear your bad beat story. Yes, you got

886
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: it in with aces or kings.

887
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: You know so.

888
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: But but who's gotten more empathy than me? Because when

889
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: I take a bad beat on television, I go off.

890
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: It's almost more ententating watching you lose. Phil, all right,

891
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 3: two more, we'll get you out of here. Splash the pot,

892
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: helm youth, or go to Helmut.

893
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 2: Go to Helm Youth. Please don't splash the pot. It's

894
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: just too hard to, you know, to track what happens,

895
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: you know.

896
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: Yes, give for those people at home.

897
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: They're talking about putting in a bunch of ships and

898
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: they hit the pot and we don't know exactly what

899
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: you bet.

900
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 3: All right, thank you for explaining that you're a better

901
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: radio host than I am giving out unsolicited advice. Help

902
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: youth or go to help you.

903
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, go to helm you please. I mean,

904
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: then people come to me and they're like, Phil, I

905
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: played this, give me your advice of his hand, and

906
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: I give the answer they don't want to hear, and

907
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 2: then they start arguing with me, and I'm like motherfucker.

908
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: You came to the best holden player in the world

909
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: and ask for my advice. You're gonna argue with me,

910
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: and I say exactly that, and the mom's the word,

911
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 2: either that or argue with me, but never ask me again.

912
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 3: Oh my god, so great, Phil, hashtag positivity. You're always

913
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: in the right place at the right time. I noticed.

914
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: One of the things you'll learn of this book is

915
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 3: how hate and negativity are poisoning you and holding you back.

916
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: Can you explain that, because for me, I call it

917
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: lebutar that's yourself.

918
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: That is my favorite chapter of the book. It's called

919
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: hate Hurts You. And so you know, it's become super

920
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: popular now that people are talking about get rid of

921
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: your hate. Get rid of your hate. I actually have

922
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: a three step method for getting rid of your hate

923
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: my book What to Do, very specific. And you know

924
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: the problem is that you know, if you hate somebody,

925
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: say someone wrong to you right and destroyed your friendship,

926
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: stole some money from you, whatever, you hate that person, right,

927
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: and so every time you think of that person negative

928
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: energy and fuck this guy. Now you think of them

929
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: all the time, but whenever you do, there's this like

930
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: red negative energy, a fuck him. Bah bah bah blah blah.

931
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: You might even go off a little bit to your friends,

932
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: Oh I hate this guy. Well, forgive that person, not

933
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: for that person. That person might be a horrible person.

934
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: Forgive that person for you. And so the first thing

935
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: I would have people do is I have them lie down.

936
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: The first thing you do is you think about the

937
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 2: person you hate, put them at the forefront of your mind.

938
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: Anybody watching right now, we can do this in a

939
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: quick ten to twenty second exercise. Think about the person

940
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: you hate or dislike the most on the planet, and

941
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 2: then ask why they did what you did, because sometimes

942
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 2: there's some explanation that gives you a little bit, eases

943
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: your burden a little bit. And the second step is

944
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: to go to a room where you're not going to

945
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 2: be disturbed for twenty minutes. You know you don't want

946
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 2: somebody knocking on the door, and you lie down generally

947
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: a bet is good, and you lie down on your

948
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: bed of your couch, and you close your eyes and

949
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: you think about the person you hate and you start

950
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: sending them love. It's the most unnatural, weird feeling you've

951
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: ever experienced. You're setting this personal love love love, and

952
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: then when that happens to me, I'm also thinking, well, okay,

953
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 2: well let me send other people I love love too,

954
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: write whatever that means to you sending love. And then

955
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: it's so bizarre how the next time you're run into

956
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: that person, your stance towards them has already changed a

957
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: little bit, and they see it and they treat you differently.

958
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: And that's we're not talking about the mysteries of what

959
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 2: happens when you're sending somebody love. We're talking about shifting

960
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: your attitude and you know, and deciding that you know that,

961
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: trying to find one or two good things about that person.

962
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: Are they a family man, do they give money to charity?

963
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: Is there anything redeemable at all? And it's amazing to

964
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: me one time I forgave somebody and it led to

965
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: me making, you know, ten million dollars. I mean, I

966
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 2: had no reason to forgive. This person spent the time

967
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: doing this exercise which I learned when I studied Buddhism,

968
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: and my wife and I went and studied, and then

969
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: it's amazing that led to ten million dollars. You can't

970
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: make that up. And so I just thought, wow, I'm

971
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: on the right track here. Forgiveness has helped me financially.

972
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: It's helped clear my mind. And when that energy, when

973
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: you start thinking of that person, now now they're in

974
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: a more neutral light, you're not wasting any more energy

975
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: on hatred and negativity, which opens up more energy to

976
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: maybe achieve the goals on your mirror, to maybe appreciate

977
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: the blessings you know, to maybe appreciate, to maybe do more,

978
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: use more energy in a positive way. So hate hurts you.

979
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: It's not about that person. That person might be the

980
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 2: worst person on the planet. It's about getting rid of

981
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: your hate, to clear your mind for yourself. Hate hurts you.

982
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 2: My favorite chapter of my book.

983
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 3: Phil I got to tell you before we let you go,

984
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 3: and again, positivity, you're always in the right place at

985
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: the right time wherever books are sold. We had you

986
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 3: on a bunch of times when you were younger to

987
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 3: see the evolution of Phil help youth and to see

988
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: how much you've matured and grown up and surrounded yourself

989
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: with the right people. It is super refreshing to see

990
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 3: man like forget about everything else. Congratulations on that, because

991
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 3: as I get older, I know that stuff's important.

992
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: You know, it's so true to gotts, and I do

993
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: feel like in this amazing position where it's nice, I

994
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: have surrounded myself with people that I love and people

995
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: that are very like minded to me, and yeah, it's

996
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: been nice. I mean, I couldn't wait to get that

997
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: book Positivity out my Autobotraphy came out. I was waiting

998
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: for that for ten years. I decided to write it

999
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: and within months, I'm like, I got to get this

1000
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: book out there. I told my wife, I said, Honey,

1001
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 2: if something happens to me, I want you to promise

1002
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: you're going to get that book out there, because these

1003
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: eight lifetips can help millions, hundreds of millions of people,

1004
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: and I want that as part of my legacy, you know.

1005
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: And then when Tony Robbins started telling people to buy

1006
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 2: my book Positivity, and I didn't hear that from Tony.

1007
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: I talked to Tony, but I heard that from someone

1008
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: who was one of his seminars. Came up to me

1009
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: and said, Tony told me to buy your book. I

1010
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: was like, you know, it feels amazing to be able

1011
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: to help so many people with eight lifetips, which which

1012
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 2: I've learned, which has allowed me to become, you know,

1013
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: great and poker, and I've been doing a lot of

1014
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 2: business stuff too, Stu got some. I'm on thirteen advisory

1015
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: boards and it's been fun.

1016
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: It's it's awesome to say it really is. Congratulations to you,

1017
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 3: and congratulations.

1018
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: That's a heart compliment from you, Stu Gott's thanks.

1019
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 3: It is it really is. You know it is, Phillo.

1020
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 3: Otherwise I'll be breaking your balls about it, and I'm

1021
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 3: not because, thank you. Listen, my mom just passed away.

1022
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 3: I'm forty eight years old. So I've arrived at a

1023
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: place where I know, just speaking to people, hearing outside

1024
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: voices surrounding myself, whether I really evaluated myself. I know

1025
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 3: how important it's become for me. So I'm happy to

1026
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 3: see that you've had a similar experience. Man, congratulations on

1027
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: all your success.

1028
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: Lo, you're laughing, you're having fun.

1029
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: Yes, well, listen, I'm stealing for a living. I should

1030
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: be doing this with a ski mask on. Phil, Hey,

1031
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: I want to do this again. I'm gonna get Aaron

1032
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 3: on with you, Okay, me, you and Aaron? All right?

1033
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: And well, I love it.

1034
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 6: If you're keeping track at home, this is now the

1035
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 6: eighteenth guest I've promised I would introduce to Aaron Rodgers

1036
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 6: back to the podcast.

1037
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'll ask for a return, but

1038
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: it's going to be big, all right. I'm just letting

1039
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: you know, Hey, thanks for doing this man, this is

1040
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 3: It's been fantastic and it's good to see you and

1041
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 3: good to hear your voice.

1042
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: Thanks to Gutts. Have a great one.

1043
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 3: Holy shit, Mike, I don't know what I was expecting there.

1044
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: I have no idea what I was expecting. All I

1045
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: know is that Phil Helmuth just exceeded every single expectation

1046
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 3: you and I had for that episode of stupidity. Holy shit,

1047
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 3: was that guy good? What did you think? Man, David Deal?

1048
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: How about that? You went ahead? You we ahead, You

1049
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 3: went ahead? These constants Stuport League