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Speaker 2: dot com Twitter handle a DP show Derek Carr, former

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Speaker 2: NFL quarterback, now an analyst on YouTube. He'll join us

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Speaker 2: the poll question, at least the first hour poll question.

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Speaker 2: He is going to Kansas City, taking the First Thing's

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Speaker 2: First Show to Kansas City, and he's been invited to

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Speaker 2: the fifteen eighty seven restaurant Patrick Mahomes and Travis kelce

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Speaker 2: And I was wondering which table would you sit if

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Speaker 2: you could sit with Patrick Mahomes in family or Travis

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Speaker 2: Kelcey in family? And what's the updated poll results?

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Speaker 3: Seaton updated poll results we got right now? Whose table

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Speaker 3: would you sit at for dinner? Patrick Mahomes or Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey has jumped up to a sizeable lead, not

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Speaker 3: sixty six percent right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the right answer. Yeah, I mean that's a

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Speaker 2: better story to tell. This is all about content. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Trick Mahomes, you know, tell me again, you know about

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Speaker 2: you know, winning Super Bowls or the look you know,

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Speaker 2: no look past all right, Kelsey, I got things to

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Speaker 2: talk to him about. I don't know, it's okay or

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Speaker 2: Andy Reid.

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Speaker 4: Oh, a couple of beers and Andy Reid. That seems

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Speaker 4: like fun.

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Speaker 2: I would probably go Kelsey, Andy Reid than Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: That George Carl loftis is a wild time out. Well

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Speaker 4: you know that.

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Speaker 2: Don't sleep on Isaiah Pacheco. You know, Chris Jones might

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Speaker 2: be entertaining. Yeah he can eat, Yeah, he might be entertaining.

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Speaker 2: All right, So it's a meet Thursday here. More phone

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Speaker 2: calls coming up, and what's the poll question for hour two? Seton?

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Speaker 3: Just put up there currently the hottest bandwagon in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Polly sent this one over Chargers Commander's Packers other. Okay,

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Speaker 3: right now, the Packers have about sixty percent of that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought there'd be a few folks with that

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Speaker 2: Chargers bandwagon. They're in second. Yeah, well we've been burned before.

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Speaker 2: Slightly ahead of the Commanders. It's really neck and neck,

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Speaker 2: and we got football coming up tonight. Salute the Commanders.

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Speaker 2: The Commanders are getting three and a half at the

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Speaker 2: Packers the over under his forty eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: Case you're wondering, let's see anytime score, who has the

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Speaker 2: best odds to score first? Which player? If you said

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs, you would be correct, and then Terry McLaurin, Debo,

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Speaker 2: Jade and Daniels. Yeah, so that's a fun Thursday night there,

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Speaker 2: fun Thursday night. We get some phone calls in here,

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Speaker 2: and Derek Carr once again we'll join us. David Carr

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Speaker 2: was with us yesterday, did a great job. And Derek

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Speaker 2: Carr has been doing some analysis on YouTube breaking down

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Speaker 2: some games and by all accounts, is got a bright future. Yes, Paul,

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Speaker 4: But like when we have quarterbacks on this show, we

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Speaker 2: Well, they do have their own language. They have to

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Speaker 2: have their own language. But if you're going to be

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Speaker 2: I would tell any of these analysts you got to

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Speaker 4: I think Orlowsky does a good job of both being

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Speaker 2: that's where you make your money. That you know the

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Speaker 3: In you know seven words, he could tell you exactly

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Speaker 2: I think he's great. And you know, when you have

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Speaker 2: the further away from the game that you get because

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Speaker 2: you got to get numbers, You got to get names.

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Speaker 2: You can't give me numbers personnel, defensive coordinator, offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 2: even when I was at Football Night in America, Tony

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Speaker 2: while and it was incumbent upon them that they had

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Speaker 2: to know who's now, what's now, what's the hot offense, termina,

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Speaker 2: all of those things. And you got to put in

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Speaker 2: that job at a very high level. All right, A

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Speaker 2: couple of phone calls Keith and Chico.

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Speaker 5: Hi Keith, Good morning guys.

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Speaker 6: Just a couple of questions.

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Speaker 5: Earlier. You're talking about moral victories when a team loses.

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Speaker 2: Find that to the game tonight.

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Speaker 5: The Commanders lose the close game, will you consider that

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Speaker 5: a moral victory?

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Speaker 7: My second question, if the Commanders win in commanding fashion,

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Speaker 7: would you consider them the top team in the NFC?

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Speaker 5: Thanks for everything, guys, God blessed America.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Keith. It's the Eagles until they lose. But

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Speaker 2: this would be a huge, huge win for the Commanders

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Speaker 2: that's a signature win there. But I don't think it

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Speaker 2: and you play it close. You're the Commanders, you're expecting

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Speaker 2: to go to the super Bowl. This isn't about I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about the Jets with a moral victory or the

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Speaker 2: Browns with a moral victory. Dan in Ohio, Hi, Dan,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 7: Dan? What's going on?

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Speaker 8: Thanks for calling me back.

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Speaker 9: Yep.

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Speaker 8: I just wanted to say something about nine to eleven.

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Speaker 8: I didn't have a TV at the time. My best

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Speaker 8: a trip. It was a trip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was twenty four years ago this morning.

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Speaker 2: And some people have asked, you know, what happened to

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Speaker 2: your brothers in law? They didn't get too they it

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Speaker 2: Firefighters would call it. They went to work for the pile.

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Speaker 2: They would be there for three months, and you know,

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Speaker 2: go to funerals. They were trying to represent the firefighters

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Speaker 2: ask firefighters to go to funerals and they're people that

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Speaker 2: to be around all of the firefighters really from around

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Speaker 2: and then you see it in real time. But they

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Speaker 2: the World Trade Center. Uh, twenty four years ago. Let's

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Speaker 2: see Kevin in Texas. Hi, Kevin, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 7: AVP has a great story about your in laws in

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Speaker 7: the worst transition. I'm going to try to lighten the

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Speaker 7: mood here a little bit. Sports semiwise, you know, I'm

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Speaker 7: guessing in Sochi we had Costas listed on the injury

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Speaker 7: report as doubtful. With Pink guy, you were probably probable

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Speaker 7: with flu like symptoms. Now, if you had to go

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Speaker 7: a left eye. But could you imagine how big and

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Speaker 7: how Todd's injury report would list and what that would look.

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Speaker 2: Like Todd would be, what'sn't Brady on the injury list?

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Speaker 2: Hey Mike Jordan in Indiana, Hi Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Brandon Marshall and Tyron Matthew and they did the Chiefs Chargers. Hey,

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Speaker 13: Honestly, everybody on those teams on offense can do it.

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Speaker 2: For me quarterbacks perspective. He said that he had fun

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Speaker 13: it is.

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Speaker 2: We want to come up with a stat RCI receiver

435
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Speaker 2: caused interception, yes, right, because not all interceptions are made

436
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Speaker 2: the same way.

437
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Speaker 13: One, you know, and you would have to put a

438
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Speaker 13: quarterback in charge of that because you know, there there

439
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Speaker 13: are times that it is our fault. Absolutely, And but

440
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 13: there are times where you throw a shallow cross it

441
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 13: bounces off someone's hands and you're like, what the heck?

442
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 13: I remember? I remember I threw a pick. It was

443
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 13: man coverage receiver didn't see it, you know, and he

444
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 13: stops and I go to throw the shallow cross like

445
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Speaker 13: it's man in the corner keeps running and picks it off,

446
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 13: and I was like, it's ah, man, you got to

447
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 13: keep running, you know. But no one knew. And obviously

448
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 13: you get booed and all those kind of things, which

449
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 13: is fine.

450
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Speaker 2: How do you walk away from thirty million dollars?

451
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 13: Oh my goodness, it wasn't easy, I promise you know.

452
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Speaker 13: Uh it's easy to make a comment and just say, yeah,

453
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 13: it is what it is. But it wasn't. It was hard.

454
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Speaker 2: It was really when you talk to your wife, Yeah.

455
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 13: When I when when I talked to my wife, you know,

456
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 13: she she would she was ready for me to be

457
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 13: done whenever I was ready. You know that, she's amazing.

458
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 13: She would. She she saw honestly, things that no one

459
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Speaker 13: else saw, you know, waking up on Monday mornings and

460
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Speaker 13: I can't walk, you know, waking up on Monday mornings,

461
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 13: and I have to call her to come in the

462
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Speaker 13: room to help me get out of bed, you know, like,

463
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 13: so she she was done. She was she was like,

464
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 13: I'm good. You know, eleven years is enough. But for

465
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 13: me as a competitor and my love, Honestly, Dan, I

466
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 13: love the game so much. I just love football. I

467
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 13: think it's great for characters. I think it's great for everybody.

468
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 13: I think it's team, it's unity, it's all the things

469
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Speaker 13: I believe in. But to say no to the money

470
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 13: part of it, I had to. I had to die

471
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Speaker 13: to myself on that one, you know, like I had

472
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 13: to be like, you know, what is what's the right

473
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 13: thing to do all that? Because on the inside you're like,

474
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 13: well it's easy. I just make that money and go.

475
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 13: But it just wasn't right because I wasn't ready.

476
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Speaker 2: What's it like to be home this time of the year.

477
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 13: It's been really weird.

478
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Speaker 9: You know.

479
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 13: Wednesdays in the NFL are the longest days, and for

480
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 13: a quarterback is really every day. But you know, Wednesdays,

481
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 13: I'm going on dates with my wife. She said, you

482
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 13: want to go on the day. He's like, yeah, let's go.

483
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 13: It's Wednesday, you know, And that's that's a that's a

484
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 13: first for us in a long time, and so it's

485
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Speaker 13: been fun.

486
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 14: Though.

487
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 13: I laid on my couch and my agent text me.

488
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 13: He's like, how you feeling. I said, I feel great.

489
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Speaker 13: I'm not getting hit. So it was good.

490
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: Okay, but will there be a temptation?

491
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Speaker 13: Yeah? You know who my biggest temptation is is David.

492
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 13: Every every single day, he's like, text me, you see this,

493
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 13: you see this, you know this? You know this guy? Hey,

494
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 13: guess who texts me? You know he does? He doesn't.

495
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 13: He said, So we're gonna sit down. I said. He said,

496
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 13: we're gonna sit down and Thanksgiving. I said, bro, I'm retired.

497
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 13: He said, at least give me Thanksgiving to try and

498
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Speaker 13: convince you. So he's he's the biggest one.

499
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Speaker 2: There's no scenario where you'd come back.

500
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Speaker 13: I wouldn't say never because I've learned that when I

501
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 13: say never, it usually happens. And I think we've all

502
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 13: probably learned that. So for me, right now, I'm training

503
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 13: because I love to train, like that's gonna be the

504
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 13: rest of my life. I love to train. I throw

505
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 13: football every now and then out in the front with

506
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 13: my kids into my buddy. You know, for fun, because

507
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 13: it's part of my rehab still for my shoulder. You know,

508
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,479
Speaker 13: I'm still just trying to get that back right from

509
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 13: getting the shot and doing the rehab and all that,

510
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 13: and so I'm still doing those things. And so I

511
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 13: always felt like, even though I'm done, like, you know,

512
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 13: if God wanted me to do it, I gotta be ready.

513
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Speaker 14: You know.

514
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Speaker 13: I don't want to go out there and not be ready.

515
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 13: You know, So I'll be ready. But I'm not coming

516
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 13: back like right now today, I'm not coming back.

517
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Speaker 2: You're only thirty four.

518
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Speaker 13: I am thirty five. I got a lot of life,

519
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 13: and I got a big job. I got coach the

520
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 13: fourth rough sixth grade Clovis Christian Warriors, you know what

521
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 13: I mean. So I'm committed to them right now.

522
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Speaker 2: Are they looking this year? Derek?

523
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Speaker 13: They're doing good. I'm out there yelling at my kids.

524
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 13: He put one of them plays quarterback to the other places receiver.

525
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 13: So I imitate Groodon a lot to them, for sure.

526
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Speaker 2: The two quarterbacks tonight, break them down from what you've seen.

527
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Speaker 13: You know, I'm really interested. This is the this is

528
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 13: what it's gonna come down to. Thursday night football, right,

529
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 13: Thursday Night football to me, has always been the test

530
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 13: of who can get the healthiest and who can take

531
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Speaker 13: care of the football. And I think both can and

532
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 13: if I'm honest, like I truly believe in them, and

533
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 13: so I feel like it always comes down to a

534
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 13: receiver or a tied end in my experience, I'll never

535
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,479
Speaker 13: forget you call it play and you you thought it

536
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 13: was last week's play, but you get, you get it

537
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 13: screwed up. And it's those little details Treatman talks about

538
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 13: all the time. On Monday Night, He's like, it's those

539
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 13: little details that no one else will see. If they

540
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 13: can take care of the football, that's the only chance

541
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 13: that they have, because in Thursday night football, there's it's

542
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 13: there's it's usually a mess. I think we've all seen

543
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 13: that as players. We hated Thursdays, but you know, it

544
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 13: is what it is.

545
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 2: But have you ever gone to the line of scrimmage

546
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: and called to play that was from the previous team

547
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: that you were with?

548
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Speaker 13: Oh, especially right when you first like get into it,

549
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 13: like I promise you, Like you get in the huddle

550
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 13: and you're like, hey, we're gonna go. You know, let's

551
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 13: go dice right? Three fifty eight cannon Cannas and then

552
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 13: you're like hey, and then you say like on the quick,

553
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 13: and everyone's like everyone will look at you, like what

554
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 13: do you mean? On the quick? You know, it's like, oh, sorry,

555
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 13: wrong offense, wrong offense, especially on a Thursday, because it's

556
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 13: all cramon in your mind. Luckily, for Luckily, for Jaden

557
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 13: and Jordan, this is the only offenses that they know,

558
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 13: and so they'll be Okay.

559
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Speaker 2: Did Peyton ruin it for all quarterbacks? Because now everybody's

560
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: expected to go to the line of scrimmage and you know,

561
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: change the play, call the play.

562
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Speaker 13: You know, when I watched Peyton, that's who I wanted

563
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 13: to be, honestly, like I Peyton knows this. I used

564
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 13: to go to the stadium early when my brother would

565
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 13: play him, and I would watch him throw to Marvin

566
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 13: and Reggie and Dallash Clark and those guys, and and like,

567
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 13: growing up, I thought, I still believe that's the best

568
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 13: way to play football. The coach. The coach is making

569
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 13: estimated guests based on on study and film and what

570
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 13: they know about these people at the defense corners. But

571
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 13: the quarterback gets to see the tests right in front

572
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 13: of it. So if you can train the quarterback that way,

573
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 13: So did he ruin it? I wouldn't say he ruined it,

574
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 13: but that's how the game I believe supposed to be played.

575
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 13: But now with the CBA, these coaches don't even have

576
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 13: time to teach the game like we did. Like it's

577
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 13: just it's so different. So now it's just flash cards. Hey,

578
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 13: remember this flash card and go do it at the

579
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 13: best of your ability.

580
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: Good luck with the YouTube stuff, good luck with the

581
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: podcast with your brother, and good luck in retirement.

582
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 13: Oh thank you, Dan, I appreciate. It's always good to

583
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 13: talk to you.

584
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: That's Derek Carr. He played eleven seasons. He's only thirty

585
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: four YouTube pre and postgame studio analyst, and he was

586
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: there Friday night with the Chiefs and the Chargers, and

587
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: he walked away from thirty million dollars with the sinks.

588
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: Russell in Las Vegas. Hi, Russ, what's on your mind?

589
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 5: How's it going you guys?

590
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: Great?

591
00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: Great?

592
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 5: Hey, listen. I was gonna call in to give you

593
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 5: my best and worst, but I'm just gonna give you

594
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 5: the best, which was the Bills win, and the worst

595
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 5: is the NFL.

596
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: My point is.

597
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 5: That these are professional athletes. These are a million dollars personnel, right,

598
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 5: I don't think they should step off the playing field

599
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 5: to go tunt the the away fans, uh and then

600
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 5: run around the inner lining of the stadium. I don't

601
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 5: think they should do that. I think the NFL should

602
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 5: step in, especially now, because they're doing things overseas where

603
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 5: there's a different let's say, there's a different attitude of

604
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 5: how to handle it.

605
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Speaker 2: Just because you go close to the stands, that's not

606
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Speaker 2: a green light for somebody to smack you. Russell.

607
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 5: I mean, I understand it, but I understand it. But

608
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 5: you're you're going run to the stands. Come on, even hockey.

609
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: Yes, they were running past the stands. Look, Lamar has

610
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: said that he never should have done it. But you're not.

611
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: You're not saying anything about this fan. Oh they're coming

612
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: close to me. I get to smack you in the helmet.

613
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 5: Well, why is the NFL not stepping into the guide

614
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 5: the players to stop him from doing that behavior versus Oh, okay,

615
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 5: if you're in the end zone, you make it. You're

616
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 5: a wide receiver, you make a fantastic catch, fantastic catch,

617
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 5: and you have one too many pelvic plumps. Not a

618
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 5: fifteen yard penalty.

619
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure why you're so bothered by this.

620
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: I don't know how many times somebody goes up to

621
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: the stands unless it's a Lambeau leap. But you're seeing

622
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: something different than I am. Russell. Thank you for the

623
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: phone call, Jesse and Kansas. Hi, Jess, what's on your mind?

624
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: I got a bad connection there, Jess. Rob in Orange County,

625
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: Hi Rob, mister Dan.

626
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 8: Can you hear me?

627
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: Yes? I can.

628
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Speaker 13: Hey Dan, Nice to meet too.

629
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Speaker 9: Dan. That's I've talked before. And I just want to

630
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 9: say this. You're talking about Davy Johnson. He was at

631
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 9: my house in Santa Luis and my father in law

632
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 9: was the caddy for him. How do I say the

633
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 9: best way? I think it's Sam Humphrey's invitational and we

634
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 9: became good friends and the humility of Batman was an

635
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 9: awesome man and it's the same as you, Dan, And

636
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 9: I just want to say that I I I respect

637
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 9: the man so much and to sit down and have

638
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 9: dinner and break bread and basically loved the man. And

639
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 9: I'm sad to hear hear it in your voice.

640
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: Rob. Thank you. Yeah. Davy Johnson. I was there with

641
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: the eighty six months I didn't really know him, but

642
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: he play in a golf tournament and he went to

643
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 2: a children's hospital. He I asked all the players if

644
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: anybody could go, and Davey went, and Davy spent a

645
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: couple hours there. I never forgot that, all the things,

646
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: all the other stuff that he did, that's what always

647
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: stands out. And he just passed away l Loo in California.

648
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 6: Hey, let's go down.

649
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: How's it going.

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Speaker 6: Hey, just want to get your thoughts on that new

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Speaker 6: development or the Kowhai story about that Aspire company being

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Speaker 6: like one point seven Milo short and then Steve Balmer

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Speaker 6: came in and saved the day. He gave a one

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Speaker 6: point nine a million donations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't look good. It doesn't. Now, I don't

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Speaker 2: know how you know how hard Adam Silver is going

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Speaker 2: to come down on the Clippers. In fact, when we

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Speaker 2: come back, I'll play a little bit of Adam Silver's

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Speaker 2: press conference. He did talk about this. It just it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it adds up, literally adds up. But that's

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Speaker 2: the reason why I have a problem with this. The

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Speaker 2: numbers add up to Kawhi getting this, and I still don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand what Mark Cuban's saying when he was

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Speaker 2: on with Pablo Torri talking about, Hey, do you think

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Speaker 2: Steve Balmer is you know, stupid that he wouldn't make

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Speaker 2: sure that that company didn't go bankrupt, so you would

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Speaker 2: be he would be exposed to his creditors. So you're

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Speaker 2: saying that he would cover up something like this is

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Speaker 2: what I would say to Mark Cuban, that he wouldn't

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Speaker 2: let this happen because he would fix this, So then

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Speaker 2: he would cover up a salary cap circumvention. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Pablo has some more information as well,

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Speaker 2: but we'll play the commissioner's comments about the Clippers situation

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Speaker 2: after this.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: Live Kawhi Leonard's story with the Clippers not going away quietly.

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Speaker 2: Pablo Torre has some more information a follow up, and

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Speaker 2: he talked about Clippers minority owner Dennis Wong made almost

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Speaker 2: two million dollar investment in this company, which then paid

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Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard one point seven to five million as required

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Speaker 2: through his endorsement contract with the environmental company. This according

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Speaker 2: to Pablo Torre in his podcast Pablo Tory finds out

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Speaker 2: you just start to look at the numbers and they

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Speaker 2: kind of match up with the money. A lot of

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Speaker 2: smoke there. Here's the commissioner, Adam Silver talking about the investigation.

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Speaker 14: The burden is on the league if we're going to

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Speaker 14: discipline a team, an owner, a player, or in any

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Speaker 14: of the constituents members of the league. I think, as

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Speaker 14: a matter of fundamental fairness, I would be reluctant to

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Speaker 14: act if there was sort of a mere appearance of impropriety.

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Speaker 14: I think the goal of a full investigation is to

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Speaker 14: find that if there really was impropriety.

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Speaker 13: The public at times.

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Speaker 14: Reaches conclusions that later turn out to be completely false,

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Speaker 14: and so I do would want anybody else in situation

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Speaker 14: mister Bomber is in now, or Kawhi Leonard for that matter,

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Speaker 14: to be treated the same way I would want to

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Speaker 14: be treated if people were making allegations against me.

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Speaker 2: All right, Commissioner of you talked to Steve Balmer, Commissioner

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Speaker 2: of you talked to Kawhi Leonard. Commissioner, have you talked

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Speaker 2: to Pablo tore commissioner, do you have access to the

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Speaker 2: same information that Pablo Torre does? Still driving that trusty

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Speaker 2: old ride. Keep it looking sharp with Mako from dense

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Speaker 2: to faded paint. We got you covered free estimate today.

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Speaker 2: Oh better get Mako. This may have been going on,

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Speaker 2: Maybe it goes on a lot more than we know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we're just being naive, but this one, we're going

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Speaker 2: to pay you off the books to circumvent the salary cap.

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Speaker 2: And somebody on record in that company saying that's what

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Speaker 2: happened with this money, seven different sources. You got three

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Speaker 2: thousand pages of documents, so there's something here. And I

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Speaker 2: would ask the commissioner, what is your next move? What

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Speaker 2: are you going to do? Because he's got to protect

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Speaker 2: all the other owners, and what are the other owners think?

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Speaker 2: Are other owners doing this? Like, Hey, we got you

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Speaker 2: a job over here, but it's not really a job,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to pay you this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Paulin, I know we're a long way from punishment

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Speaker 4: for the Clippers, if any, but they don't have a

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six first round draft pick. They don't have

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Speaker 4: a twenty twenty eight first round draft, so the cupboard

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Speaker 4: is a bit bare. Already.

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Speaker 2: Steph Curry was on the Today Show in NBC. NBC

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Speaker 2: of course is going to be bringing you the NBA

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Speaker 2: coming up this season, and Steph talked about today's NBA players.

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Speaker 15: I was also about wise man when I was getting

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Speaker 15: into the league, like, you want to leave the league

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Speaker 15: in a better place than when you found it. And

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Speaker 15: I think just the way that you see the skill

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Speaker 15: level right now, the way that the range just kind

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Speaker 15: of taken over and got to shooting threes all over

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Speaker 15: the court, but just from one through five and all

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Speaker 15: the way down the ross, I think this is the

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Speaker 15: most skilled, you know, era of basketball history. And so

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Speaker 15: whether that was you know, young kids in the game

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Speaker 15: now seeing you know, my generation the way that I

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Speaker 15: play and getting inspired by that like that for me

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Speaker 15: is important and something I don't take for granted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't argue with that one through five. What

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Speaker 2: we ask big men to do, what big men are

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Speaker 2: allowed to do. Now that they can take their game

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Speaker 2: out three point range, they can also be inside the

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Speaker 2: ability to run the floor, handle the ball, and then

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Speaker 2: you have the other players the ability to make shots,

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Speaker 2: tough shots. It's pretty amazing. So skill level, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: not so, I mean that's I'd be surprised if he,

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Speaker 2: you know, said something different. They had, Yes, one through five,

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Speaker 2: it's as skilled as it's ever been. You can watch

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Speaker 2: you know, the NBA, and you can watch and you

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Speaker 2: could see that there were players who played, players who

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Speaker 2: started and they weren't you know, high skill level guys.

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Speaker 2: You could still get away with a guy who was

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Speaker 2: going to be banging around, you know, physical guy and enforcer.

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Speaker 2: You don't really have that now. I mean, you got

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Speaker 2: guys if something happens, then I got an enforcer. But

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Speaker 2: you know, back in the eighties and nineties, felt like

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Speaker 2: every team had an enforcer. You know, something's gonna happen

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Speaker 2: to the star player. Hey, you're gonna knock down Jordan,

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Speaker 2: Charles Oakley wants to see you. You know, you would

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Speaker 2: just have that. But skilled positions one through five. Yeah, amazing,

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Speaker 2: But Steph made it look too easy and it's not.

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Speaker 16: Yes, marm Yeah, this isn't a very like, this isn't

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Speaker 16: a hot take it all. No, like, it's the evolution

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Speaker 16: of the game. Because you would say that about any sport,

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Speaker 16: not any sport, but you say about the NFL also,

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Speaker 16: these guys might be better than they were before. How

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Speaker 16: many guys in the eighties of their nineties can do

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Speaker 16: what Kyrie can do. That's the first guy I think of,

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Speaker 16: or even Kevin Durant. You talk about guys. If Kevin

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Speaker 16: Durant played in the nineties, there's no way he's out

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Speaker 16: there to three point line. They would say, get in

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Speaker 16: the post. Oh yeah, what are you doing facing up dribbling? Yes,

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Speaker 16: get down there and working at low post.

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Speaker 2: Moves and big men would not be out eighteen feet away.

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Speaker 2: They'd be like, get down there, get down on the

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Speaker 2: low post. Yeah, Paul, if you.

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Speaker 4: Want to play a little Devil's advocate to what Steph said,

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Speaker 4: could you make the case that the main skill these

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Speaker 4: days is outside shooting, which everyone can do, but the

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Speaker 4: other skills like driving to the basket or posting up

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Speaker 4: is a skill that's gone away quite a bit. And

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Speaker 4: that was if you say multi skilled athletes shooting outside

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Speaker 4: is a great skill and never could do it. But

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they drive to the basket like

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Speaker 4: they used to or post up like they used to.

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Speaker 2: Well, the game is begging you to drive to the

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Speaker 2: basket or mid range jumpers. But you know, the analytics

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Speaker 2: say don't. I still don't understand that when guys are

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Speaker 2: one for nine from three point range and I see

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Speaker 2: go to the hoop, get fouled, shoot some free throws,

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Speaker 2: get somebody in foul trouble, and it'll change, Mark my words,

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Speaker 2: it'll change. Somebody's approach is going to be. You've got

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Speaker 2: to deal with us inside. You got to deal with

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Speaker 2: us down low, and you'll still have you know, the

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Speaker 2: requisite three point shooter or a couple of them. But

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Speaker 2: I mean, if I had shack yal Ming these, you know, Koreem,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, let's see if you can stop us, because

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Speaker 2: nobody is geared to stop you down low, and I

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Speaker 2: think somebody is going to be Not everybody's going to

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Speaker 2: be built like Victor wemben Yama. You're gonna get guys

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Speaker 2: who were still big men. Yes, Marv, but we see

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Speaker 2: that now with the Joker. The Joker he can do

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Speaker 2: all that stuff where he the ball almost like a

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Speaker 2: water polo player, but there's plenty of times where he

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00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: gets old school back you down and he's got great

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Speaker 2: touch around the basket where nobody can do anything with

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Speaker 2: him because these guys aren't built to defending them posts well,

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Speaker 2: it's like Luca as well. I mean, Luca can shoot

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Speaker 2: the three, but Luca does get to the hoop. Luca

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Speaker 2: gets in the lane, lob passes, and he's physical. These

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Speaker 2: guys are big guys. Two hours in the books. On

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Speaker 2: this Thursday, our good buddy Nick Wright set to go

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Speaker 2: to Kansas City, gonna go see the game, but also

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Speaker 2: the steakhouse Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes are opening up,

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Speaker 2: So findal hour on the way. After this