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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the edition of Big Fish Small Pod.

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Speaker 1: dot com. And Marlons Fans, we continue my series on

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Speaker 1: have some reference toy team on current Marlon's draftees and

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Speaker 1: today joining me from Hogsports two forty seven in Arkansas,

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Speaker 1: Jackson McAfee. Jackson is great to have you on to

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about this future Hog all right,

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Speaker 1: should say future par Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you having me on. It's a big deal

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Speaker 2: for me the first time doing something like this.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome, happy to do that. Let's talk a bit

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Speaker 1: about the player and we're gonna be mentioning Jake Faherty

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Speaker 1: coming from Arkansas relief pitcher signed with Orleans for two

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars eleventh round draft pick for a Why

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Speaker 1: have they Marlons fans and a lot of us maybe

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Speaker 1: in the media watching this when draft, we're real surprised

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Speaker 1: the Marlons selecting him, maybe not because of his ability,

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Speaker 1: but the amount of pitches and the amount of innings

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Speaker 1: that he did throw for the Razorbacks. I'm looking here,

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Speaker 1: not even sixteen innings, fifteen and two ins arkts Also, Jackson,

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Speaker 1: tell me attle bit about Jake, because that's sixty eight innings.

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Speaker 1: Just most of it are it should say a good

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Speaker 1: portion of it just came from twenty twenty four, even

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Speaker 1: though he's been there quite a while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing with Jake Verity is that the reason

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Speaker 2: that they, I think the Marlins probably selected him, and

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Speaker 2: that's probably for a lot of people who select the pitchers,

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Speaker 2: is that he throws heat. He is a ninety eight

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Speaker 2: to nine nine miles perer fastball guy. He he he

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Speaker 2: displayed that this year. And funny thing is that, like

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Speaker 2: as you said, like this is he was really shown

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Speaker 2: up off this year. He only had like a combined

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Speaker 2: one career in his first two years with Arkansas before

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Speaker 2: going into his junior year. The problem was is that, yes,

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Speaker 2: he could throw ninety eight to ninety nine miles per hour,

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Speaker 2: but there's one small catch. He couldn't control the fastball.

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Speaker 2: He was kind of everywhere, you know, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: mean basically it's the movie Wild Thing from me. It's

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Speaker 2: a movie Major League and Wild thing, Charlie Sheen. That's

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Speaker 2: basically who he was. At first, you know, they were

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Speaker 2: trying to they had to teach him control, you know,

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Speaker 2: and then eventually, you know, he started, he started hitting

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Speaker 2: the strike zone, started throwing strikes, and eventually they were like, okay,

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Speaker 2: we're ready to display this guy. We're ready to show him. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was a little bit time, a long

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Speaker 2: time coming for Jake, but he was he was ready

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Speaker 2: to take him out of that year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and with Bake, talk to us a little bit

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Speaker 1: about him as a person. Again, maybe some Mormons fans

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Speaker 1: and you know, even for myself maybe not so much

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Speaker 1: watching him in terms of the sec and following rage

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Speaker 1: back baseball like that, but tell us a little bit

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Speaker 1: just how important he was in him as a person.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jake Ferdy, I mean we didn't get to talk

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Speaker 2: pretty pretty uh self centered dude, pretty pretty respectful young guy.

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Speaker 2: He was a I mean, he has a unique look

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Speaker 2: I mean he was just he was just a pretty

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Speaker 2: good guy. Nothing really much to say because I mean

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Speaker 2: again we didn't really get to talk to him that much,

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Speaker 2: but overall great guy and it was fun to see

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Speaker 2: him finally take them down after being built up for

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Speaker 2: these past first two years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know with those first two years, talk

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Speaker 1: to us, you know a little bit what happened to

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Speaker 1: him with those first two years looking at it just

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Speaker 1: just just how those first two years out about for Jake.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like like I said, Jake just struggled with command. Again,

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Speaker 2: he was a you know, great fastball. He could he

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Speaker 2: But it was good that they that he that he

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Speaker 2: you feel like some sometimes with the transfer portal, people

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Speaker 2: he stuck around, and he he he crafted, He really

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Speaker 2: When so in the Oregon State game the Camboda College

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Speaker 2: Baseball series, as we all know, the Hey Haged Smith

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Speaker 2: set team strikeout game. He uh, he picked up the

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Speaker 2: the closer after that, but uh, he came in with

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Speaker 2: but then he strikes out the next two guys and

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Speaker 2: he really locked in after that and getting the last

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned that up that, you know, that game,

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Speaker 1: you know against Oregon State, a globe life, you know,

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Speaker 1: going against top cop top competition, number first overall pick

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Speaker 1: just so many guys drafted from that Oregon State lineup.

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Speaker 1: How do you think Jake faired against that top competition.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's maybe something that he can transition

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Speaker 1: and use. Going in wall, You're faced guys who have

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Speaker 1: every day, maybe since they were just kids.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean uh, I mean in that in that moment,

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Speaker 2: it was kind of a stressful moment. I mean you

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Speaker 2: could see, like because they posted the whole game, the

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Speaker 2: Flow Baseball posted the whole game on their YouTube page.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you go to that skip to that part,

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Speaker 2: you could see he was a little bit like nervous,

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Speaker 2: you know, his legs were moving moving a little bit

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Speaker 2: he locked in and he was able to get those

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can tell you another thing. Back in

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Speaker 2: he struck out Jack Caglioni, who had a who hit

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Speaker 2: a Grand Slam in that game. Uh, and it was

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Speaker 2: three to one, and arkasas they were thinking about intentionally

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Speaker 2: walking him, making for one game so you don't have

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Speaker 2: given up. But whenever he granted it was late eighth

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Speaker 2: most dominant hitters this year in the twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: So he can go up against high level players, he

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Speaker 2: can get those outs. He is a strikeout guy, so

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Speaker 2: he's gonna grind that bound out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna mention that, you know, looking at

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Speaker 1: his strikeout stuff and maybe how you could see that

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Speaker 1: another reason why the Marlins wanted him. Just a high

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Speaker 2: The batters, especially, yes, sir, especially like if there's runners

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Speaker 2: you don't really need to you don't really need the

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Speaker 2: ball hit and play. He can blow the ball past hitters,

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Speaker 2: get strikeouts. I mean, of course, like he got, he's

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Speaker 2: just that guy who's trying to work around the zone,

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Speaker 2: not afraid to blow him right past you. And you

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Speaker 2: know some sometimes you know, maybe someone gets it, gets

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know with Jake, you know, getting that routine, hoping,

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Speaker 1: you know, getting more innings, more experience. Just what what

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Speaker 1: is maybe something you would see with Jake, Maybe something

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Speaker 1: he can just improve on, not to say maybe anything's bad,

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Speaker 2: Well, you think his command, but I think it's probably

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Speaker 2: flyouts and stuff like that. I mean, he was he

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Speaker 2: on just just getting out, whether it comes from a strikeout,

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Speaker 1: Just how do you see his pitch makes at Arkansas?

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Speaker 1: You know, with relievers, it could be very difficult in

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Speaker 1: terms of maybe what they throw or how many pitches,

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Speaker 1: what kind of pitches that they do throw. What's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of an arsenal for Jake that maybe we

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Speaker 1: can expect him to throw and maybe which is all

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Speaker 1: from him with the razorbacks.

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Speaker 2: Well, first thing is his fastball. I mean ninety eight

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Speaker 2: probably top out in the triple digits at some point.

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Speaker 2: Uh you'll you'll see a slider or two here and

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Speaker 2: there to throw off hitters. I mean, if he's not

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Speaker 2: throwing his fastball, it's gonna be a slider, or it's

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Speaker 2: can throw off hitters. But uh yeah, I mean if

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Speaker 2: when if you think when you think Jake Flaherty flar,

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Speaker 2: do you think you think flamethrow and you think fastball.

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Speaker 2: So I mean that's that's that's his number one pitch.

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Speaker 2: But he will mix it up a little bit to

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Speaker 1: Well, Jackson, that's gonna do it. Ten minutes, big fish,

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Speaker 1: small pod for a reason, keep it short and simple.

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Speaker 1: But I want to appreciate you coming on and uh

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Speaker 1: where at these Marlons folks maybe finds you on Twitter?

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Speaker 1: Like podcast? Where could they find you? Maybe a little

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Speaker 1: bit more in Arkansas Crossover.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely on Twitter, it's Jay McAfee two four seven, and

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Speaker 2: our website. The website under twenty four four seven sports

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Speaker 2: is hogsports dot com. We we're currently about to hit

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Speaker 2: football pretty hard this season. Of course, the SEC has

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Speaker 2: now grown to sixteen teams with the addition to Texas

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Speaker 2: and OU, so a lot of stuff's going on there.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, Well, Jackson, I appreciate you coming on man, and

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Speaker 1: have a great rest of your day.