Speaker 1: It's surreal. But then you know what's so weird about that?
Speaker 2: Ryan, It's like I had this moment, it's so incredible,
Speaker 2: and then I had to go home and like Alden
Speaker 2: was puking and like my dog shit in the living room. Hi,
Speaker 2: my name is Angelie Cabral and I am fun and sparkly.
Speaker 3: Hello to all of my esteemed listeners. Yes I'm speaking
Speaker 3: to you. Welcome to another highly sophisticated episode of Off
Speaker 3: the Beat. I am, as always, your devoted host, Brian Baumgartner.
Speaker 3: Why am I in such a good mood today? Well,
Speaker 3: it's the new year, so it's a new me. And
Speaker 3: also because my guest today is a great personal friend
Speaker 3: of mine and an absolute hero of my daughter's Angelique Cabral,
Speaker 3: or as they know her, Queen Amaya from the smash
Speaker 3: Disney hit movie Wish. Now, if you are over the
Speaker 3: age of six, or if you are not a parent
Speaker 3: who has demanded to play that soundtrack every single time
Speaker 3: you get in the car, well she might be more
Speaker 3: familiar to you as Jill from Enlisted, or Colleen from
Speaker 3: Life in Pieces, Becca from Undone, or any of the
Speaker 3: other great roles that she's had in her career which
Speaker 3: goes all the way back to a United Airlines commercial
Speaker 3: when she was just six years old. I wonder what
Speaker 3: she made her parents play in the car on the
Speaker 3: way to auditions. Well, we're going to find that out.
Speaker 3: And lots more about growing up on the beautiful coast
Speaker 3: of California, getting her start on soap operas, and eventually
Speaker 3: fulfilling every little girl's dream of becoming not just a
Speaker 3: Disney princess, but a Disney queen. Here she is the
Speaker 3: queen of my car Stereo Angelique Cabral.
Speaker 4: Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and squeak. No
Speaker 4: bubble and squeak.
Speaker 5: I cook get every mot oh from the ninetyfo.
Speaker 3: What's hello?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 1: Long time?
Speaker 3: Happy New Year? You're still festive?
Speaker 1: Look at you in a panic listen.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't thank god you texted me this morning because
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm in it with taking down Christmas.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen me on my Instagram
Speaker 2: and whatever, but I'm obsessed with the holidays and from
Speaker 2: basically November twenty fifth, and my husband, in absolute moment
Speaker 2: of despair yesterday was like it has to come down,
Speaker 2: this is enough.
Speaker 3: We're done. It's a fire hazard for sure.
Speaker 2: Everything's brown and it's just and he's like, and he
Speaker 2: has self proclaimed but also in real life reality he
Speaker 2: has OCD okay of cleanliness and so which just gets
Speaker 2: worse every year. And so he just was like, I
Speaker 2: can't handle it anymore. I'm going back to work tomorrow.
Speaker 1: This is it. So I woke up this morning.
Speaker 2: I've just been in a frenzy like cleaning and so
Speaker 2: this is my last hurrah. This is it, this is
Speaker 2: this goes away after this conversation. I'm packing up all
Speaker 2: of my Christmas stuff in my attic and that's it.
Speaker 3: That's it until that's that's it till next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now do you recycle Christmas sweaters?
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I have roughly, I think something like forty two. Stop it,
Speaker 2: it's disgusting. No, it's not okay. And I do recycle
Speaker 2: them and I keep them and I use them year
Speaker 2: after year.
Speaker 1: I have my favorites.
Speaker 2: I have some kitchy ones, but I also have some
Speaker 2: very beautiful ones. Like I have it's all over the map,
Speaker 2: but I have so many sweaters.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I do follow you on the Instagram. And
Speaker 3: here's the thing that I know about you. Well, first off,
Speaker 3: you're clearly a fantastic mom, and you like to celebrate
Speaker 3: like holidays big and small.
Speaker 2: Correct, right, all all sizes and shapes of holidays truly
Speaker 2: like everything, I kind of it's kind of how I
Speaker 2: go through my year, right, Like, okay, we've got coming
Speaker 2: up now it's Valentine's so I'm already getting I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get my valentine stuff out pretty pretty quick here, and
Speaker 2: it's my birthday first and then Valentine's.
Speaker 1: But basically I go through the year.
Speaker 2: I have a bin for each holiday, and I have Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have table decor, only one though I don't go
Speaker 2: too too crazy, and I do really just the kids'
Speaker 2: rooms and our main like living area, but I have
Speaker 2: table decor. I love the Dollar Store for like you know,
Speaker 2: plates and napkins and anything. I love to like serve
Speaker 2: breakfast with a theme, so I love to do that,
Speaker 2: or I'll do like a green pancake like for you know,
Speaker 2: Saint Patrick's Day. Like I go pretty hard for every holiday,
Speaker 2: and then when it gets when we are close to October,
Speaker 2: when we get into the fall, it's just no holds barred.
Speaker 2: It's just I'm all in from basically October first until
Speaker 2: January third, Like, that's it.
Speaker 3: But your husband is the one with OCD.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not me, Obviously, it's over for.
Speaker 3: Every holiday solves just just a little, just a little
Speaker 3: yeah OCD. But no, that's hey.
Speaker 1: Well, and they're big bins. They are these huge ones.
Speaker 2: I can't even show you how big from home Depot
Speaker 2: and my husband to his you know, to give him
Speaker 2: some credit, he he did go to home Depot and
Speaker 2: buy me matching ones and then I label them so
Speaker 2: that they at least look the same to him, right,
Speaker 2: and he doesn't have to deal with like what's inside.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's a real journey for us over
Speaker 2: these past several years. And the bigger my house gets,
Speaker 2: the more shit I buy, right in my French, but
Speaker 2: I just I would go so much harder, but he's
Speaker 2: limited basically to one bin per holiday.
Speaker 1: That's where we're that's where we're landing.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, all right, call new Year. I mean
Speaker 3: we're here where we're entering the new the new year.
Speaker 3: We can restart, the bins can be recycled, and we're
Speaker 3: we're good. So you were born in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: I was born in Hawaii. Was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and why was this? Was this? Was this a
Speaker 3: work thing? Was this? Or is this is where your
Speaker 3: parents were from?
Speaker 2: No, so my it's a very romantic story actually, Brian.
Speaker 2: But my uh my dad ran away from home basically
Speaker 2: when he was seventeen through the islands. He is a carpenter, okay,
Speaker 2: and he went to Hawaii to just kind of like
Speaker 2: live his life. But he was a shipbuilder in Hawaii, okay,
Speaker 2: and he built boats like from scratch, like with his
Speaker 2: bare hands. And my mother had gone separately with her
Speaker 2: fiance at the time, okay, and was attending University of Hawaii.
Speaker 2: And then she like also on her like has her
Speaker 2: part time job was a preschool teacher. My father had
Speaker 2: a daughter in her class, Okay. So my dad's first daughter, Nicole,
Speaker 2: was my mother's student, and so she would meet my
Speaker 2: dad and he's very still as handsome and quite the
Speaker 2: leathario and kind of wooed her.
Speaker 1: But nine, you she was engaged.
Speaker 2: To the southern man, right, who I've never met, and
Speaker 2: so you know, this is just all like lore that
Speaker 2: I've heard over the years from my parents.
Speaker 1: But basically they fell in love. She broke up with
Speaker 1: her fiance.
Speaker 2: They got married and lived on a boat that he
Speaker 2: had built, and they were together about eleven years before
Speaker 2: I came along.
Speaker 1: Okay, and they were very.
Speaker 2: In love and they lived in Hawaii, be they just
Speaker 2: both loved it, to be honest with you, and I
Speaker 2: still love it. And as a young child, my parents
Speaker 2: got divorced. It doesn't end well with that story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my father has.
Speaker 3: Sometimes the relationships over Plato doesn't fully stand the test
Speaker 3: of time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, truly didn't.
Speaker 2: But it was a very sweet It seems like eleven
Speaker 2: or twelve years then I was born.
Speaker 1: They immediately got divorced. My father took said boat.
Speaker 2: I'm going to write a movie about this someday or
Speaker 2: a show, but like basically took the boat that they
Speaker 2: lived on with all of my baby things and all
Speaker 2: of our things with his mistress to Tahiti and it
Speaker 2: got shipwrecked and he never like the ship was bye bye.
Speaker 2: We never saw that ship again. And I say ship,
Speaker 2: it's a boat. It's like a sailboat. It's like a
Speaker 2: forty two foot sailboat. It's not a ship.
Speaker 1: I should use the right. A ship feels like an
Speaker 1: ocean lighter.
Speaker 2: It's just a sailboat and it didn't end well and
Speaker 2: there was a big storm in Tahiti. So my dad
Speaker 2: kind of came back to California. My mom and I
Speaker 2: moved to Carmel to be with her family when I
Speaker 2: was to like basically I was raised with my grandparents
Speaker 2: in Carmel.
Speaker 3: So Carmel like Monterey Monterey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that's what I consider home.
Speaker 2: Hawaii is like where I was born, and my mom
Speaker 2: and dad have a lot of friends there and like
Speaker 2: their roots, I would say, like their youth. But I
Speaker 2: didn't grow up in Hawaii. I was just born there
Speaker 2: and then I loved to vacation there. I took my
Speaker 2: family there for my fortieth birthday. It was wonderful and
Speaker 2: like you know, I have fond memories of Hawaii with
Speaker 2: my mom because she would take me back every year
Speaker 2: for like a spring break or any kind of vacation,
Speaker 2: like whenever she could afford it, she would take me
Speaker 2: back to Hawaii. It's her happy place and hence my
Speaker 2: happy place. My dad had never been back until I
Speaker 2: took him for my fortieth. I made my whole family.
Speaker 3: Go with me.
Speaker 1: It was very fun, like he was. He's more emotional
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: I think it brings up some rather dark memories of
Speaker 2: things for him, because that's when like the marriage ended
Speaker 2: and he took off to Tahiti on the boat and.
Speaker 1: Never came back.
Speaker 2: So I think, yeah, yeah, But so I would say
Speaker 2: I'm bored in Hawaii but raised in Carmel, and then
Speaker 2: now I'm here.
Speaker 3: Now Hawaii is beautiful. To me, there is I don't
Speaker 3: know if I could do it only because of the weather.
Speaker 3: To me, there is almost no more beautiful place on
Speaker 3: the planet than Carmel. Carmel.
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with you.
Speaker 3: It's stunning.
Speaker 1: It's stunning.
Speaker 2: Well, and I'm you know, Carmel is so close to
Speaker 2: not only want to ray a big sur Yes, it's
Speaker 2: just the entire coastline in the US.
Speaker 1: The coastline is just so beautiful. The one oh one
Speaker 1: I or the Highway one.
Speaker 2: I should say I loved living there, but I thought
Speaker 2: it was very boring and I couldn't wait to leave.
Speaker 2: It's not ironic. Now I just hope to make enough
Speaker 2: money to retire, but to go back. Every day, I'm
Speaker 2: like looking at my bank account. Can I go home yet?
Speaker 2: Like what's happening? It's so beautiful but very quiet. And
Speaker 2: you know, I grew up like rock climbing and big
Speaker 2: sur like how boring is that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And I couldn't wait to just get out of there,
Speaker 2: so I went as far as I could and I
Speaker 2: went to Indiana University for college.
Speaker 3: Now you started doing some work. I understand your first
Speaker 3: job was when you.
Speaker 1: Were six, I believe so that sounds right?
Speaker 3: Uh a United Airlines commercial. Were you like actively pursuing work?
Speaker 3: I mean it sounds weird because you're six, I know.
Speaker 3: Was it something you wanted to do?
Speaker 2: I think no, I think that what it was is
Speaker 2: back then, my mom kind of grew up dabbling in
Speaker 2: the business. My grandmother was also like a dancer and
Speaker 2: a professional dancer and kind of a round. They lived
Speaker 2: for a while in my mom's youth in Hollywood, and
Speaker 2: I think it was around and I was very outgoing.
Speaker 2: I didn't really love acting or want to do it
Speaker 2: until third grade, which I think is what nine or ten?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember then, but still pretty young.
Speaker 2: But I remember there was this a substitute teacher at
Speaker 2: my school who I was like a music teacher, and
Speaker 2: she was amazing and we learned all these songs and
Speaker 2: then she said, I'm having auditions for Oliver at the
Speaker 2: local college, Hartnell College, if anyone wants to audition, and
Speaker 2: I asked my mom if I could, and I got in.
Speaker 1: And I loved the rehearsals. I loved the community of theater.
Speaker 2: And I really grew up in the theater as a
Speaker 2: child in my youth in Carmel and Monterey, and I
Speaker 2: did all of the productions outside of school and in
Speaker 2: school from third grade until high school. And I was
Speaker 2: like Anne Frank in the Diary of Anne Frank, and
Speaker 2: I was Miranda in The Tempest. I had like very
Speaker 2: big roles throughout my youth and that's when I loved it.
Speaker 2: But my mom always said, if you love it and
Speaker 2: you want to do these outside productions, you have to
Speaker 2: keep straight a's. So I was a nerd and I
Speaker 2: really like got straight a's. And when I say straight a's,
Speaker 2: I got a full scholarship to college, a full academic scholarship.
Speaker 2: I was a well scholar at Indiana University and we
Speaker 2: didn't have any money, so I knew that I had
Speaker 2: to kind of do it my way, and I got
Speaker 2: a full scholarship to college. But like, I always loved it,
Speaker 2: and it never felt like work, like I loved singing, acting,
Speaker 2: dancing from the get when I was six. I don't
Speaker 2: remember the United commercial at all, but my mom did
Speaker 2: say I had fun and like she was around in
Speaker 2: casting and she did some casting in Monterey, So I
Speaker 2: think she just had like ends with casting people.
Speaker 1: And I know that she dabbled in casting in Hawaii too.
Speaker 3: Right, you didn't bring this up because I have always
Speaker 3: loved her. My research says you have a cousin that's
Speaker 3: Adie mcclerk. Is that? I mean?
Speaker 1: I believe this, that's cool?
Speaker 3: Like, I know, was she around? Did you talk to
Speaker 3: her very much? Okay, very much like mc edie?
Speaker 2: Who for those of you who are listening, you'll, I
Speaker 2: would think most most recognized her from Paris Bueller's Day Off.
Speaker 2: Oh he's a righteous dude with the red curly hair
Speaker 2: and comedian I grew up knowing.
Speaker 1: I called her Aunt Edie. She's not my aunt, she's
Speaker 1: my cousin.
Speaker 2: Okay, she's my mom's cousin, so I believe that makes
Speaker 2: her my first cousin.
Speaker 1: Or is my second cousin?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but anyway, I called her Aunt Edie. She and
Speaker 2: my mom are like sisters. Okay, she has no family,
Speaker 2: she never married, no kids. So every Christmas, Thanksgiving, my Birthday, everything,
Speaker 2: she came to Carmel. She drove this I'll never forget
Speaker 2: this Toyota mini van from LA. She would always drive,
Speaker 2: so she would come all the time to Carmel. She
Speaker 2: came to my graduations. She came to London. When I
Speaker 2: studied in London, she always saw my place. She was
Speaker 2: actually a very very big supporter of my career. If
Speaker 2: you would call up, she always said, go to college.
Speaker 2: She went to college and grad school. She said, do
Speaker 2: not graduate from high school and go to LA. Try
Speaker 2: to be a star. It's going to take work. She's
Speaker 2: very realistic. She's like, it's going to take work. It's
Speaker 2: going to be hard. Get your education so you can
Speaker 2: always do something else. So I double majored. I did
Speaker 2: exactly what she said. But she was very very much
Speaker 2: a part of my life. And even when I moved
Speaker 2: here in La. She brought me my first help me
Speaker 2: get my first car. She gave me her old Futon
Speaker 2: for my first apartment. She never really gave me money.
Speaker 2: She never really like hooked me up with like any
Speaker 2: of her contacts. Like she's not like getting me an
Speaker 2: agent or like getting me a job. But she sure
Speaker 2: did give me a used futon, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And eighty God bless her. Has had a very long,
Speaker 2: very wonderful career. Has some money, like she's very frugal.
Speaker 2: She doesn't spend it on anything like she notoriously shops
Speaker 2: at the dollar store, as do I now right and
Speaker 2: costco right.
Speaker 1: So she just.
Speaker 2: Would reuse things and give me all of her old things,
Speaker 2: and I loved it. And then as I you know,
Speaker 2: she's been a big part of my life around here,
Speaker 2: and she got sick a couple of years ago. She
Speaker 2: has Alzheimer's and it took a turn in like twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: and she really got taken advantage of by two different
Speaker 2: men who came into her house and basically demoed it
Speaker 2: and said they.
Speaker 1: Were contractors and were not.
Speaker 2: And she met these guys on Facebook, and so we
Speaker 2: kind of deactivated that and I had to go to
Speaker 2: court to be her conservator. So now I'm a conservator
Speaker 2: of her estate and person and it's a full time job.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie to you. It's not fun.
Speaker 2: It's very difficult. She's unrecognizable, really can't have a conversation
Speaker 2: or get through a day. We have full time care
Speaker 2: for her, twenty four hours at her same house. I'm
Speaker 2: keeping her in her house because she has the means,
Speaker 2: and it keeps her happy, to be honest, and it
Speaker 2: keeps her feeling I think a sense even though she
Speaker 2: doesn't have her memory is gone, but it keeps her stable.
Speaker 2: And I've heard that if you remove people at her
Speaker 2: kind of escalated stage of her illness that it can
Speaker 2: she can deteriorate, like very rapidly. So I'd rather keep
Speaker 2: her and her health is. She's as strong as a horse,
Speaker 2: she's so healthy, she's doing great, but she just has
Speaker 2: no memory and can't really operate well.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to hear that it sounds like you are well,
Speaker 3: you're doing right by.
Speaker 2: Her, and that I'm doing my best for sure, and
Speaker 2: there's really no one. There's no one else to really
Speaker 2: care for her. We have some cousins in Seattle, but
Speaker 2: they aren't here or close enough to you know, see
Speaker 2: her regularly. So I took it upon myself because I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm not going to let some random State
Speaker 2: of California conservator take over her state.
Speaker 1: That makes no sense. So I'm happy to do it.
Speaker 1: But she's my cousin. That's so weird. That's so weird.
Speaker 1: I know, well, but Brian, I grew up watching her.
Speaker 2: I would come to LA and watch her on like
Speaker 2: Small Wonder of course, And yeah, I went to live
Speaker 2: tapings of like what was it Hogan's Family Get It
Speaker 2: was so fun and so I kind of I guess
Speaker 2: in a way, comedy has been around me my whole life,
Speaker 2: like and so multi caam single kam.
Speaker 1: Comedy is like where I'm my happy place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was going to ask you about that.
Speaker 3: You went, you followed her advice. I'm going to get
Speaker 3: back around to that. But you went to Indiana University
Speaker 3: for their musical theater program. Yes, did you see yourself?
Speaker 3: You know Edie was talking to you about not going
Speaker 3: to LA and being a star. Where where was your brain? Like,
Speaker 3: was your brain in the theater? Were you going to
Speaker 3: be a theater actor? Or oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, my brain was I'm a Broadway star, right, My
Speaker 2: brain was I'm leaving California.
Speaker 1: To go to Indiana School of Music.
Speaker 2: They had it at that point, it was called the
Speaker 2: IMP It's an individualized major for musical theater. Because I
Speaker 2: wasn't a music major. I was a musical theater major,
Speaker 2: and I got incredible training. I felt super confident and amazing,
Speaker 2: and I got leads in all the shows, and I
Speaker 2: was like Broadway.
Speaker 1: Here I come.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm ready, Like this was my dream,
Speaker 2: my passion. It's all I did my entire life. It's
Speaker 2: still my dream and passion. Like I love live theater
Speaker 2: so much. But what happened was I graduated from Indiana
Speaker 2: with this dream and a bunch of art. My fellow
Speaker 2: IU w Hoosiers. We all moved there, and then nine
Speaker 2: to eleven happened. Literally within days of me moving there
Speaker 2: and the theater everything shut down. I had a day
Speaker 2: job as a as a preschool teacher in the morning
Speaker 2: so that I could audition, similar to my mom, but
Speaker 2: I had I got this job at this Montassori preschool.
Speaker 2: I knew the owner and she gave I had to
Speaker 2: take all these courses so that I could teach. It
Speaker 2: was on the Upper East Side and it was for
Speaker 2: very wealthy families in New York, and I ended up
Speaker 2: kind of pivoting because of nine to eleven and everything
Speaker 2: kind of shut down for like six months, and then
Speaker 2: it turned into like a year everything was fucked up
Speaker 2: and wild, and I didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 2: And I started nannying for a lot of these families
Speaker 2: like to make ends meet, and she was like a
Speaker 2: side hustle, continuing to audition for Broadway. But I'm going
Speaker 2: to tell you something that I realized very quickly. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of competition in New York. And I am
Speaker 2: a strong mover, but I'm certainly not a dancer. And
Speaker 2: I have a great voice. But at that time, I
Speaker 2: don't think I could compete on the level that I
Speaker 2: needed to. And I did some. I did some regional things,
Speaker 2: and I did some like workshops they call them play
Speaker 2: rates and stuff like that. Yeah, but I never hit it big.
Speaker 2: I never like made my Broadway debut. I'm still waiting
Speaker 2: to make my Broadway debut, right, But what I.
Speaker 3: Did do so than you think now? Well, yeah, well
Speaker 3: we'll get to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, can't wait to be honest in two
Speaker 2: years and then we'll talk. But I sure did make
Speaker 2: it big in foot modeling. I sure did make it
Speaker 2: big in birthday parties. I did some commercials I did.
Speaker 2: I did foot modeling for years. I have a tiny foot,
Speaker 2: and my feet fit in sample sizes of shoes. Like
Speaker 2: basically with shoes they make one pair.
Speaker 3: This is not like an only fans thing. This is
Speaker 3: like a no, this is like a legit This is
Speaker 3: like a.
Speaker 1: Legit thing, like where you're a foot model and you
Speaker 1: stand in a showroom.
Speaker 3: Like a hand model or elbow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like really stressed about it.
Speaker 2: I was always like moisturizing my feet and like making
Speaker 2: sure I didn't get onions or blisters. Those are the
Speaker 2: days of my youth. But yeah, I did like weird.
Speaker 2: I did weird side hustles, and I really made my
Speaker 2: way through. I was in New York for about ten years,
Speaker 2: and I really made my way through it. But never
Speaker 2: never the Broadway dreams that I had wanted or moved
Speaker 2: there with. But then I met my husband and he
Speaker 2: had a business that brought us to Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: Wait a second, did your husband have a child from
Speaker 3: a previous relationship that was in your preschool class? Because
Speaker 3: if so, then we've got a sacurious conversation to have here.
Speaker 1: Oh could you imagine? No, he did not.
Speaker 2: He had a business that was like his child. But no,
Speaker 2: I did not have another child.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, you didn't meet him in the okay,
Speaker 3: in the preschool. Okay.
Speaker 2: We were very in love though, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'll never move to La.
Speaker 1: I ate La.
Speaker 2: I don't like TV TVs for the birds, TV's. I
Speaker 2: was like, TVs for losers. We can't make it on Broadway,
Speaker 2: That's what I'd say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a time, there was a time people
Speaker 3: saw Yeah.
Speaker 1: People did think that.
Speaker 2: So we moved to La and I pretty quickly. This
Speaker 2: was like two thousand and nine, twenty ten. I I
Speaker 2: got this manager who took a chance on me, and
Speaker 2: like really thought I had I mean, listen, Brian, I'm
Speaker 2: sure you can attest to this. Like early on in
Speaker 2: everyone's career, I feel there is a time where you
Speaker 2: just it's like ignorance is bliss.
Speaker 1: This is how I felt. Anyway.
Speaker 2: I came here from ten years in New York thinking
Speaker 2: I was the best. I'm very confident, like too confident.
Speaker 2: I just thought I was the beasnys like you're lucky
Speaker 2: to meet me, like here, I am. I must so
Speaker 2: I would call myself a soap actress. I did some
Speaker 2: stints on soaps.
Speaker 3: You did quite a few more than what I knew about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I keep that buried.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I did a lot of soaps, did a
Speaker 2: lot of commercials, and I certainly had confidence that, like
Speaker 2: what here, I am right? And I started these acting
Speaker 2: classes pretty quickly. I got recommended to Leslie Kahn, who
Speaker 2: has changed my life. She's a dear friend to this day.
Speaker 2: And I kind of learned how to audition, and I
Speaker 2: learned what people I feel like want in the room.
Speaker 2: Back then, everything was in the room right, and so
Speaker 2: I made fans pretty quickly because I could take notes,
Speaker 2: I think from years of being in theater and also
Speaker 2: just kind of living my life in New York. I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm a hard worker. Like I love to work,
Speaker 2: I love to take a note. I love to like
Speaker 2: grind it out, and I don't think a lot of
Speaker 2: people do even now, especially now, I still think that's
Speaker 2: one of the things that sets me apart, is like
Speaker 2: when it comes to like being in the room or
Speaker 2: on set or whatever, there's a zero I'll never have
Speaker 2: an ego about it. I'm just like, tell me what
Speaker 2: you want me to do. Let's go, let's go, let's
Speaker 2: move on, let's work it out. I always feel like
Speaker 2: there's a sense of community like theater, like I just
Speaker 2: love that feeling of being on set and like working
Speaker 2: out together. Anyway, I had pretty quick luck, I will say, like, like,
Speaker 2: I think that all those years in New York kind
Speaker 2: of primed me for like this, just go here in
Speaker 2: La somehow.
Speaker 3: I mean, much like you and your New York friends
Speaker 3: looking down back in the day on television. You know,
Speaker 3: I think there's still a stigma which you sort of
Speaker 3: alluded to, about soap operas, and I know that I'm
Speaker 3: not soap opera material, but I always thought that that
Speaker 3: would have been a good experience to have, particularly particularly
Speaker 3: what the.
Speaker 1: Hell was there?
Speaker 3: Particularly coming from theater, because I feel like that the
Speaker 3: experience of soap operas where you're handed pages and it's go,
Speaker 3: and you get one shot at it and you're done,
Speaker 3: You know that that would be kind of a fun
Speaker 3: transition and having sort of high stress time work sort
Speaker 3: of as an introduction to film and television. Do you
Speaker 3: feel like, in all seriousness, did did that give you something?
Speaker 3: Do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And also confidence on set in front of a camera
Speaker 3: and a crew, right.
Speaker 2: I think when I look back on those days at
Speaker 2: the soaps, which I did almost all of them in
Speaker 2: New York, at various times that I almost feel like
Speaker 2: was my grad school. To be fully honest with you, like,
Speaker 2: I think that that's what made the transition to television
Speaker 2: actually easy for me, because I kind I had all
Speaker 2: that those hours and the idea of having to do
Speaker 2: those turn those pages so quickly and you only really.
Speaker 1: Get one or two takes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I think to this day, I'm so
Speaker 2: quick with words, and I'm so quick on a set,
Speaker 2: and I love the stress of like, Okay, let's go,
Speaker 2: we only have one like this, like anything with time,
Speaker 2: and like, yes, I also love multiicam for the same reason.
Speaker 1: It feels very much like a performance, like a play.
Speaker 2: And I also just believe that everything you do, like
Speaker 2: you said, like it's a wealth of like tools, and
Speaker 2: I have this big toolbox around me or tool belt whatever,
Speaker 2: and I'm pulling out these tools. And I've collected so
Speaker 2: much knowledge and so much ability in my lifetime thus
Speaker 2: far that I can't wait to see, like what the
Speaker 2: next twenty years brings, because I feel very much, I
Speaker 2: feel very capable at all times, and I always say
Speaker 2: to myself, I've never let myself down. It's true, Like
Speaker 2: no matter what, no matter what, the situation is I
Speaker 2: always kind of rise to the occasion. And I don't
Speaker 2: think I knew that then when I first moved here.
Speaker 1: But I look back and like, oh, it's the soaps.
Speaker 1: It's the soaps and all those I took a bunch
Speaker 1: of soap classes. There's a teacher in New York called
Speaker 1: Bob kraft Hour.
Speaker 2: I was always taking classes, trying to like perfect my
Speaker 2: craft so that I could I never wanted my acting
Speaker 2: to be the problem. If anything, it's the wardrobe or
Speaker 2: the this, or the lights or whatever. But I don't
Speaker 2: want it to ever be me.
Speaker 3: I still feel like that, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was my grad school, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so interesting. You hit the ground running here,
Speaker 3: as you mentioned, lots of commercials, also guest spots in
Speaker 3: big show. No, but like big shows at the Melrose
Speaker 3: Place two and a half man, I mean a variety,
Speaker 3: as you say, a variety of sort of disciplines and genres.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think there's a procedural that you
Speaker 3: haven't done.
Speaker 1: I think I've done at least one of every procedural, but.
Speaker 2: That you know, the It was interesting because I got
Speaker 2: here I think late two thousand and nine and I
Speaker 2: started these classes and I saw around me people working, right,
Speaker 2: I am very much like I need to see it
Speaker 2: and then I can replicate it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So I remember this girl in my class booked some
Speaker 2: guest star and I was like, I texted Karen's like,
Speaker 2: I can do this. I need to book a guest star,
Speaker 2: and like two weeks later I got this. The very
Speaker 2: first real job was the Melrose Place, okay, and I was.
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, that's eazy. Okay, I did that.
Speaker 3: That's easy.
Speaker 2: And then there's this I'm or you know her, Susan Bash.
Speaker 2: She's this amazing casting director. I went in for Happy
Speaker 2: Endings and this was a big show when I first moved.
Speaker 1: Here was casting.
Speaker 2: I never really auditioned before, like for a comedy, okay,
Speaker 2: And I go into Happy Endings and David cast who's
Speaker 2: a dear friend of mine now like I guess, and
Speaker 2: the Tanne bombs I think it was their show, like
Speaker 2: loved me and thought I was hysterical. The part was
Speaker 2: already I believe casted by. I think it was Casey Wilson,
Speaker 2: but I didn't know that. And I fucking like walked
Speaker 2: in that room like this is my part, right, and
Speaker 2: they gave me some notes and I ended up going
Speaker 2: to this. I ended up taking more classes, but basically
Speaker 2: they had me do the table read because Alicia Cuthbert
Speaker 2: couldn't do the table read and she was like the
Speaker 2: lead of that show. So I, with zero credits beside soaps,
Speaker 2: did this huge table read for network and studio for
Speaker 2: the pilot of Happy Endings, and then I end up
Speaker 2: getting it yes, and then I ended up getting a
Speaker 2: part in the pilot. I got a little co star,
Speaker 2: and then the next season, David gave me another role,
Speaker 2: completely different role, playing Damon's Damon Wayan's like work life
Speaker 2: or something, so like in the say it's like notorious
Speaker 2: that in the same show, I'm two different characters, which
Speaker 2: never happens, but I'm two different guest stars. And that's
Speaker 2: just an example I think of, Like if I had
Speaker 2: to sum up my career, that's what I would say,
Speaker 2: is like I do well, people like me, they put
Speaker 2: me here, and that leads to the next thing, which
Speaker 2: I guess is just la in general, that's just Hollywood, right,
Speaker 2: But like if you make fans and do good work,
Speaker 2: people are going to remember you, and it leads to
Speaker 2: ABCD and even now, like I work with people and
Speaker 2: then they'll put me. I mean, justin Adler, I worked
Speaker 2: with him on Life and Pieces for years and then
Speaker 2: I was in Maggie.
Speaker 1: Like I this is just.
Speaker 2: Kind of how I think, at least for me, my
Speaker 2: kind of career has unfolded. Like I get to work
Speaker 2: with the same people and I love that. It's the
Speaker 2: biggest compliment ever, ever, ever as an actor, the people.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you've had that before.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, no, for sure. And it's you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's all the things that we're talking about, right,
Speaker 3: Like one, you're good, you're hard working. You don't ever
Speaker 3: want there to be a take where it's about you,
Speaker 3: like Okay, camera screwed up or lighting is weird, or
Speaker 3: you're wearing the wrong color pants or whatever. But you're
Speaker 3: also positive and nice and nice at the end of
Speaker 3: the day. That's a huge part of it as well.
Speaker 3: Just to be wanted to be worked.
Speaker 1: With, that's correct. Just to be wanted to be on
Speaker 1: set with.
Speaker 2: But I always feel like, like that's why I feel
Speaker 2: like I miss about going in rooms and starting to
Speaker 2: do this again now. But like I always feel like
Speaker 2: I win the part in the room, doesn't matter what
Speaker 2: how the words come out. But it's like, if you
Speaker 2: want to hang out with me for twelve hours a
Speaker 2: day on set, I'm your girl, do.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, if you want this to be an easy, lovely process,
Speaker 2: I'm your girl. And then you could make me whatever
Speaker 2: you want. You can give me notes all day and
Speaker 2: I'll do whatever you want. But also half of it
Speaker 2: is just being Most of it is just being on set.
Speaker 2: Do you want to hang out together.
Speaker 3: Right right tomorrow? You want to see me again?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Or do you want to see me every day for
Speaker 2: seven years right exactly? Because I mean we both have
Speaker 2: worked with people that is not the case, and you're
Speaker 2: just like, oh, this is a nightmare and you should
Speaker 2: never work again, right, Like you're kind of like, how
Speaker 2: do you work like that? I'm obviously not going to
Speaker 2: name names, but like there are people that there are
Speaker 2: people like this out there, and you're just like, I'll
Speaker 2: neext to you later, but you know So that's I
Speaker 2: think that's my kind of overall take on how my
Speaker 2: early days in LA went. It's like it was it
Speaker 2: was kind of wild and mad, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, I like I saw my friend testing and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I can test.
Speaker 1: What's that? What does that mean?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm mean okay, I can do that.
Speaker 2: And then I tested for the show and then I
Speaker 2: got the show, and then I was like, oh, that
Speaker 2: was easy.
Speaker 1: And then I kind of had to stopped working.
Speaker 3: Well, I believe the show that you're talking about is enlisted. Correct,
Speaker 3: that was well.
Speaker 1: That wasn't my first.
Speaker 2: My first pilot that I booked to series was a
Speaker 2: show called Devious Maids.
Speaker 3: Actually, yes.
Speaker 2: But the tricky thing about that because Mark Cherry. Again
Speaker 2: Mark Cherry had seen me in a show. We were
Speaker 2: hanging out backstage. I was making him laugh. We got
Speaker 2: got got got guy YACKI d yak and he said,
Speaker 2: I think I have a show for you. This pilot
Speaker 2: sees I said that sounds great. Yeah, yeah, Mark Cherry,
Speaker 2: sounds great your next show after Desperate Housetimes. Absolutely I
Speaker 2: booked the pilot. It was very That was a that
Speaker 2: was a real talk about talk about having to have
Speaker 2: your wits about you and be able to pivot. Brian,
Speaker 2: that was like crazy. I had to test. I had
Speaker 2: to go back to test. It was ten o'clock at
Speaker 2: night and to go back to Warner Brothers. I lived
Speaker 2: in Santa Monica at the time, and he gave me
Speaker 2: cold sides to read for this other part for this test,
Speaker 2: and I thought, what the fuck and I did it
Speaker 2: and then I got it. But it was one of
Speaker 2: those things I was like, Thank God, I was good
Speaker 2: with words and I didn't freak out giving getting twelve
Speaker 2: pages of sides at ten o'clock at night. Anyway, that
Speaker 2: show didn't go to series on eighty see, it went
Speaker 2: to series on Lifetime, and Lifetime changed the cast all around,
Speaker 2: like Lifetime bought it for ABC. So like that was
Speaker 2: my actual first pilot, but I didn't go with the show.
Speaker 2: Enlisted was my I immediately booked and listed after that.
Speaker 3: And something else important happened during that time. You met me,
Speaker 3: I met you.
Speaker 2: Now, let's that's the real that's a real game changer.
Speaker 2: That's just a moment in my life.
Speaker 3: Let's unpack this for just a second. Do you remember
Speaker 3: the night that we met?
Speaker 1: Was I working? Was I working?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's all very foggy to me as well.
Speaker 3: But was it at a party you close? Was it
Speaker 3: a place called Pearls on sun Sunset?
Speaker 1: It was sunset and like doheany with Jeff? Wasn't it
Speaker 1: with Jeff?
Speaker 3: No, there is maybe the biggest A All I can
Speaker 3: say is maybe the biggest A List star are in
Speaker 3: the world. His mom was there.
Speaker 1: Is this real?
Speaker 3: This is this is real?
Speaker 1: This is the this is I like Rat Pitt's mom,
Speaker 1: like Janferish who's.
Speaker 3: Close, okay close and Jess Zor Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm still friends with her. We were hanging. I was, yes,
Speaker 1: for sure. I remember this night we were there.
Speaker 3: And you were working with Matt soon and that's why
Speaker 3: you came up to me because Matt Soone was directing Enlisted.
Speaker 1: He was directing an episode. Yeah, and I came right
Speaker 1: and I came up.
Speaker 2: I'm very good at that, like if I put things
Speaker 2: together again, I'm a connector so I like went.
Speaker 1: I remember going right.
Speaker 2: Up to me, like, Hi, I'm on just like again.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm on a show, thinking that was
Speaker 2: like a big deal. But we like became quick friends,
Speaker 2: like we were like it was so fun.
Speaker 3: Yes, and Enlisted, you played Army staff sergeant Jill. I
Speaker 3: don't remember this or did you have. I know it's
Speaker 3: a comedy, so they weren't putting you through a boot camp,
Speaker 3: but did they have, like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: What did go to boot camp?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, oh you did.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a whole thing. I'll send you a link.
Speaker 2: There's a whole like documentary they made of it. But
Speaker 2: they sent me, Jeff Stultz, Parker Young, Keith David, and
Speaker 2: Chris Lowell to boot camp for a weekend in Texas.
Speaker 2: Where was it like one of these? It wasn't Fort Hood,
Speaker 2: but it was similar. I'll remember, Okay, it was the worst.
Speaker 2: It was the worst two days of our lives.
Speaker 1: It was no joke. They like took our phones and
Speaker 1: they it was real boot camp.
Speaker 2: Like I cried, like it was horrible omeric. Yeah, I slept.
Speaker 2: There was like cockroaches in my room. I was the
Speaker 2: only girl. We had to like memorize the the oath
Speaker 2: and how to Oh my god, it was it was
Speaker 2: so hot. Parker threw up. It was I mean, listen,
Speaker 2: the boys loved it. The boys were like, this is amazing. Actually,
Speaker 2: I take that back. Chris Lowell. Chris Lowell hated it.
Speaker 2: Chris Lowell was like, you know, because he'd been around
Speaker 2: Baronic Kamar's private practice, he was like, this is fucked up.
Speaker 1: I'm calling Disney. This is fuck. This is like he
Speaker 1: like used to do it, like he was so mad.
Speaker 2: And then Jeff and Parker like rose and they like
Speaker 2: loved it. And then I was like somewhere in between,
Speaker 2: like I was like, I want to be a legit soldier.
Speaker 2: I want to learn how to do this. I want
Speaker 2: to climb the rope, I want to do the obstacle course.
Speaker 2: I want to get my ass beat. But then there
Speaker 2: was like cockroaches and I couldn't sleep and I'm legally
Speaker 2: blind and they like couldn't find my contacts and it
Speaker 2: was like.
Speaker 1: Awful, and that part then it then it took a turn.
Speaker 1: But I remember being that, yeah, they wanted it to be.
Speaker 2: Like veryng Yeah, and when I look back on that,
Speaker 2: they would, by the way, for I never happened today,
Speaker 2: Like that would never happen in twenty twenty four. Never,
Speaker 2: this was twenty thirteen, and they were like, yes, it
Speaker 2: wouldn't soldiers.
Speaker 3: You or wouldn't like it.
Speaker 1: I just don't think any show would be allowed to do.
Speaker 3: That, right, That's that's what I'm thinking. They just set you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me coach, like it was gnarly, Like
Speaker 2: I don't even think that day knew what was happening.
Speaker 2: Like I remember Mike Royce and Kevin Biehle like being
Speaker 2: like texting us like when we got back, like how
Speaker 2: was it? Like, I don't even think they realized the
Speaker 2: extent or how legit it was going to be. And
Speaker 2: they were like apologetic. They were profusely apologizing, like I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry that you went through this, Like they did
Speaker 2: not know how bad it was going to be.
Speaker 3: I just this is totally tangential, But I just watched
Speaker 3: this documentary Hell Camp. Have you heard about this?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, this is about this thing that happened in the
Speaker 3: eighties and nineties where if you had a bad kid
Speaker 3: they would get kidnapped in the middle of the night
Speaker 3: and brought to like a camp for bad kids and
Speaker 3: they had to like walk across the Utah Desert. I
Speaker 3: mean I remember hearing about this, like, oh, so and
Speaker 3: so the bad kid got sent to whatever, right. I
Speaker 3: just watched this documentary and I could just imagine you
Speaker 3: guys ending up with just a I don't know. Staffs
Speaker 3: are like what like a drill master.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, our drill sergeant was so we landed at
Speaker 2: like ten o'clock or something. That's how they that's you're
Speaker 2: not exaggerating, like that is not far from the truth,
Speaker 2: and like I'll never forget when we got to this place,
Speaker 2: which I need, I will find.
Speaker 1: Out for you.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: We it was late and like we got to the
Speaker 2: the barracks and that it was black kitch black, and
Speaker 2: we were on like a football field and they took
Speaker 2: all of our ship, like our phones and our all
Speaker 2: our ship put it in a garbage bag and said
Speaker 2: you'll get this back at the end and they made
Speaker 2: us run like five miles in the middle of the
Speaker 2: night before we could even go to bed.
Speaker 1: And Chris Lowell was just like nope.
Speaker 2: He's like I'm not this is not right, Like he's
Speaker 2: like I need to speak to someone immediately, like he
Speaker 2: was the only and then.
Speaker 1: Chris park were like Marker and Joff were like yeah,
Speaker 1: we're on, yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 2: Like whatever, like they were so in and I was
Speaker 2: like I don't, I don't know, okay, I guess like
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: Really know what you did, but we just did it.
Speaker 2: And then we were so tired and then they woke
Speaker 2: us up through the night. There was two nights that
Speaker 2: we spent there. They like give you those scary like
Speaker 2: like they bang on your door and like make you
Speaker 2: wake up and like go take a cold shower, they
Speaker 2: like torture you, like that's real and put to the night.
Speaker 3: This is what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very real, very chance. You look at our show.
Speaker 2: We never we got praised for going to boot camp
Speaker 2: and like all of the the veterans and the soldiers,
Speaker 2: like it was a very popular show, right with soldiers,
Speaker 2: and they like loved how legit it was, and like
Speaker 2: even our uniforms and how everything we had. We had
Speaker 2: several people on set advising us. We had all sorts
Speaker 2: of to make it very real, like they want even
Speaker 2: though it was a comedy, they wanted it to be
Speaker 2: very real. Yeah, it was one of the best shows
Speaker 2: in my life. I loved it so much.
Speaker 3: I love to hear that. I mean, what an incredible experience.
Speaker 3: And again yeah, probably you're right, like that what you're describing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, never happened today. Never, It would have never, they
Speaker 1: would never.
Speaker 2: No, we could have stued seventeen times, like for sure,
Speaker 2: for sure, that would not happen for sure, or at
Speaker 2: least or at least someone from HR would have gone
Speaker 2: with us.
Speaker 3: Okay, there would have been somebody there, somebody. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean we had.
Speaker 2: No one in sight, no one insight. They flew us
Speaker 2: like Southwest coach, like garbage. It was awful, not a
Speaker 2: stipend to be seen.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love Yeah, you're what do you
Speaker 3: call it? Your your canteen? Like you had no Yeah,
Speaker 3: you couldn't get a Snickers bar or whatever. It was
Speaker 3: just empty. Oh gosh, Well that's when we met.
Speaker 1: That's when we met.
Speaker 3: And then that show unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Uh one hit wonder Man one season wonder that was it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: sadly it's been ten years now, it'll be eleven this year,
Speaker 2: but it was a ten years since that show, and
Speaker 2: we still have text chains all of us with Kevin
Speaker 2: and Mike, and all of us were like such close friends.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was a really incredible bonding. I think
Speaker 2: honestly bonded us because we were so tortured. To be
Speaker 2: honest with you, it's just a beloved show. Like we
Speaker 2: talk about trying to do like a reboot or like
Speaker 2: a version of that, or I keep trying to ask
Speaker 2: Jeff if he'll do like a podcast with me about it, but.
Speaker 1: He's very hard to tie down. That just stults.
Speaker 2: He's very busy being a bro so but yeah, it
Speaker 2: was a great experience, and then it kind of led
Speaker 2: me to my next things and the next thing.
Speaker 1: So it was kind of just what I would say
Speaker 1: a highlight of my career for sure.
Speaker 3: Life and pieces where we actually got to work together.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was so fun.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget. We got to work together at an airport.
Speaker 2: What was that the Vanny's Airport van Eysed Airport.
Speaker 3: Yes, what was the experience like of getting cast as Colleen?
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I was pinching myself. I still can't.
Speaker 2: I often can't believe when I get cast in something
Speaker 2: like just the people around me on that show, Diane Weize,
Speaker 2: Jim Brolan, Colin who's one of my best friends now
Speaker 2: in his whole family, Betsy Tommy, it was a dream.
Speaker 2: It was just the best five years of my life.
Speaker 2: And I loved everyone on that show. And the way
Speaker 2: that we got to storytell the four short stories. It
Speaker 2: just lent itself to such beautiful storytelling, always with heart,
Speaker 2: always kindness. I tend to always get I gravitate towards
Speaker 2: shows like that that have like a sweetness or kind
Speaker 2: of like a lesson something that makes you a little
Speaker 2: bit cry, Like I that's how I am all the time.
Speaker 2: Like I'm always a little teary, always a little emotional.
Speaker 2: I feel things very deeply. I really relish in things
Speaker 2: and soak things up. And that show taught me. Also,
Speaker 2: you know, that was my first show that had You've
Speaker 2: had the great fortune to have this, but like that
Speaker 2: was my first show that had several seasons, right, So
Speaker 2: like I got to learn how to kind of carry
Speaker 2: over this character from season to season, seemed to see.
Speaker 2: I watched her developed, I watched her grow, and she
Speaker 2: was very different by the end of that series than
Speaker 2: the Calleen in the in the pilot. And I became
Speaker 2: a mother on that show. I was pregnant. I was
Speaker 2: pregnant with Addie. Yeah, I got very large. I had
Speaker 2: a lot of Domino's pizza. Anyone who watched my series
Speaker 2: back then, Dominoes gave me a very nice gift during
Speaker 2: my pregnancy, which was a little embarrassing.
Speaker 1: That's what a what a repeat customer I was. I
Speaker 1: ate a lot of Dominoes. Yeah, I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: one of those situations.
Speaker 2: Like you know that you just your life has forever
Speaker 2: changed on a show like that, and it kind of
Speaker 2: solidified myself as like this actress who like can definitely
Speaker 2: hold her own.
Speaker 1: With big names, and it's changed my career for sure.
Speaker 3: Well, we have to talk about I mean, we have
Speaker 3: to talk. You've been working NonStop Maggie on Hulu also undone,
Speaker 3: By the way, I do have to ask you about
Speaker 3: about that. For those of you guys who have not seen,
Speaker 3: you absolutely should see undone. It's rotoscoped, which I've found
Speaker 3: out that's what it's called. Now. Was the process they
Speaker 3: filmed you like you were shooting a show, a show,
Speaker 3: Yeah it's not, and then they trace over you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah it is. Was that was that fun
Speaker 3: to see the final because you literally don't see it
Speaker 3: until correct two.
Speaker 2: It's like almost a year and a half after we
Speaker 2: shoot it that we see the final project undone.
Speaker 1: We did two seasons of that beautiful show.
Speaker 2: It's to date the work I'm most proud of, hands down,
Speaker 2: the depth of my character, her journey, the art, the
Speaker 2: artistic integrity of that show, the mess. It deals with
Speaker 2: mental health, it deals with time travel, it deals with
Speaker 2: at needs people like It's just an incredible show that
Speaker 2: touches in so many different worlds. Pisco is an incredible artist,
Speaker 2: and Kate Purdy and Bob Rafael Wakesburg who created the show,
Speaker 2: who also did It's that funny one with a donkey
Speaker 2: on I'm talking about what did they do.
Speaker 1: That show on Netflix forever?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's funny.
Speaker 1: BoJack?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 2: So they did BoJack Horseman. It's a dark comedy. This
Speaker 2: show is unlike anything I will ever do again or
Speaker 2: I have ever done. You shoot it almost like in
Speaker 2: a black box theater, and you shoot it with these
Speaker 2: marks on the ground, and they shoot you in the
Speaker 2: same scene hundreds of times from different angles, and you
Speaker 2: don't understand what's happening.
Speaker 1: You never will.
Speaker 2: I still don't understand quite what rotoscoping is, to be
Speaker 2: totally honest, I just know that they shoot us. We
Speaker 2: don't wear makeup. It's like very bare bones. It's again,
Speaker 2: it's as if you're in college doing a black box production.
Speaker 2: They cut it together the way they want it to
Speaker 2: be seen, and then the artists in I believe Austin Okay,
Speaker 2: trace us. Then they send it to Amsterdam where they
Speaker 2: paint with oil paints over all of it so it
Speaker 2: looks like a moving masterpiece, right, it really looks like
Speaker 2: it looks like a moving piece of art.
Speaker 3: Are you wearing costumes?
Speaker 1: You're wearing like I had one costume the entire series.
Speaker 2: It's like one dress, okay, but you're but you wear
Speaker 2: it and then they paint it and then they change
Speaker 2: your makeup a little bit, and like, yes, I would say,
Speaker 2: like there's a couple of scenes where I'm wearing like
Speaker 2: I'm going backpacking and hiking.
Speaker 1: I did you put on pants?
Speaker 2: You wear the costumes, but you don't worry about touches,
Speaker 2: you don't worry about your makeup. They can kind of
Speaker 2: paint over anything. It's really kind of hard to explain.
Speaker 2: But you don't understand why they're shooting you in so
Speaker 2: many weird ways until you see the time travel and
Speaker 2: you see it in its entirety. During the series, you
Speaker 2: never see like anything. It kind of goes into this
Speaker 2: abyss and it's so beautiful. But you also just have
Speaker 2: to kind of trust them, right, and it's so guttural,
Speaker 2: and these scenes are really emotional. A lot of these
Speaker 2: scenes it's not stuff that I'm used to doing, right,
Speaker 2: And there's no like let's hurry up and go No, no, No,
Speaker 2: it's like you do all day, like two pages. It's
Speaker 2: like the opposite, so it's kind of indulgent. And I
Speaker 2: loved it so much and working that closely with Bob
Speaker 2: Odenkirk who played my father, Rosa Salazar who played my sister,
Speaker 2: Constance Marie who played my mom, And then we had
Speaker 2: some great guest stars too. John Corbett came in for
Speaker 2: a while on a ortise I'm forgetting triple Horn, Genie
Speaker 2: triple Horn. It was just wonderful, just an incredible cast,
Speaker 2: and everyone is like, what are we doing? And I
Speaker 2: don't ask, just do it. Just look here and just
Speaker 2: make sure you don't walk past here because if you
Speaker 2: walk past here, there's an entire wall down a hole,
Speaker 2: so you can't move here. You've got to just move here.
Speaker 2: Like it's all very like they see it. The artists
Speaker 2: and Hisco who's directing us. We did the second season
Speaker 2: during COVID and he was in Amsterdam directing us.
Speaker 1: No one was in the room with us ever.
Speaker 2: It was just me and the two me and whoever
Speaker 2: I was in the scene with, and the three camera guys.
Speaker 2: That was it, so it was bare bones. There was
Speaker 2: like five of us on set all day during COVID.
Speaker 2: Everyone was directing us from remotely. They were remotely directing us.
Speaker 3: Are you going to have a third season?
Speaker 2: No, Apparently the show's done. I think the strike ruined.
Speaker 2: That the strike ruined, and all the executives are gone.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things where everyone changes and now
Speaker 2: no one cares about the show, right, so your executives
Speaker 2: go away, then soon does your show? Sadly, but watch
Speaker 2: it everyone, it's a beautiful show. It's still on Amazon.
Speaker 3: It's beautiful and done on Amazon. Now. You told me
Speaker 3: while you were sick, you do vision boards. You attempt
Speaker 3: to manifest. You've talked a little bit about that. Today
Speaker 3: it's the new year. It's a time for wishes.
Speaker 1: I make a lot of wishes. I've made wishes my whole.
Speaker 3: Life for new wishes. How was that transition?
Speaker 1: Betul loved it.
Speaker 3: I called you because my kids were making me crazy
Speaker 3: blaring music from Wish in the car, and of course
Speaker 3: because it came out during the strike, I didn't get
Speaker 3: to see all of the fancy press and parties, and
Speaker 3: I just kept seeing your name show up there singing
Speaker 3: the songs Queen Amaya in Wish, Congratulations and Welcome to
Speaker 3: the Disney Universe. Do your kids love it? Are they
Speaker 3: bored with it? Because it's just mom, No, they love it.
Speaker 2: I think maybe we've seen it, I think seventeen times,
Speaker 2: so I think now they're a little bored of it maybe,
Speaker 2: But I did say, you know, when it first came
Speaker 2: out over the holiday weekend of it was Thanksgiving weekend,
Speaker 2: we saw it every day. Okay, one time we saw
Speaker 2: it twice a day. We saw because everyone wanted to
Speaker 2: see it with me, right and my kids wanted to
Speaker 2: see it with their friends, and everyone wanted to see
Speaker 2: it together. So we went almost every day for a
Speaker 2: solid ten days, I would say, at least, and then
Speaker 2: several times since then, like scattered throughout the holiday. My
Speaker 2: kids cannot get over it. We listen to it much
Speaker 2: like your children, Yes, on repeat on Spotify every single day,
Speaker 2: every single song. They know every word. Addie Plate, she
Speaker 2: wants me to play King Magnifico and Queen and Maia.
Speaker 2: So it's like our favorite game. Right now, I reenact
Speaker 2: every moment and then she likes to switch between King
Speaker 2: Magnifico and Asha.
Speaker 1: Okay, so she is.
Speaker 2: Very aware all that. My little boy, who's four he's
Speaker 2: he like knows it's me. And every time I come on, mommy,
Speaker 2: that's you. Mommy, like in the middle of the theater,
Speaker 2: very loud right and at Target when we see the.
Speaker 1: Merch, they're real into the merch and there, Mommy, that's you.
Speaker 1: I don't you know. I think it's the most.
Speaker 2: Magic time to have a Disney movie in the theaters
Speaker 2: for the holidays. It couldn't be any better. Like, I
Speaker 2: can't even get over it. And my kids are at
Speaker 2: the perfect age. I think if I think if Addie
Speaker 2: she's six, I think if she was a little older,
Speaker 2: she wouldn't care as much, right, But she is absolutely
Speaker 2: smitten with it and she loves it.
Speaker 1: She thinks it's so pretty. She loves and listen, it's
Speaker 1: about wishes.
Speaker 2: It's like my life, Like it's literally like I feel
Speaker 2: like I weirdly manifested this movie, like I make wishes.
Speaker 2: I've grown up making wishes on stars every day eleven eleven.
Speaker 1: I'm praying. I'm constantly talking to the universe.
Speaker 2: I constantly am looking into the stars, to the sky,
Speaker 2: asking for guidance, asking for signs bring me here.
Speaker 1: I know I can handle this.
Speaker 2: Like constantly talking to the universe, and I feel like
Speaker 2: this is just another example of that.
Speaker 3: Wow, I can't tell you beautiful, I mean it is.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean I guess this. Maybe I've
Speaker 3: bought into the promos and stuff now, but it really
Speaker 3: is like the quintessential Disney message, right, like, yeah, the
Speaker 3: whole full circle from when you wish upon a star
Speaker 3: to like this being the like manifestation of said said,
Speaker 3: which ye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's their one hundred
Speaker 2: years of animation. Okay, So Disney just celebrated one hundred
Speaker 2: years of animation. So the movie has a lot of
Speaker 2: nods to old Disney. You'll see some sleeping Beauty, You'll
Speaker 2: see snow White, you'll see Bambi, a lot of the
Speaker 2: sleeping uting bad guy Magnifico with the green tendrills like
Speaker 2: all that. It's also a little bit about the origin
Speaker 2: story of the wishing stars. So then at the end
Speaker 2: she's like Cinderella the Fairy Godmother. So you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: It feels kind of full circle, and I think that
Speaker 2: for Disney's one hundred years of animation, there couldn't be
Speaker 2: a better message or story.
Speaker 1: I also like it because it's a love story.
Speaker 2: This is a story about a young heroine who believes
Speaker 2: in herself and fights for herself. It's her and her
Speaker 2: forging the story. Similar to Mowana right, she's like out
Speaker 2: on her own, fighting for herself. And I think it's
Speaker 2: a story of resilience and perseverance, and I think it's
Speaker 2: a great message for young children, especially young girls. And
Speaker 2: I love that the Queen ends up spoiler alert, being
Speaker 2: a good queen, Like she flips sides and she finds
Speaker 2: love for her country and her people and what's right
Speaker 2: for them and herself instead of the loyalty to her man.
Speaker 2: And I think that's a huge pivot and I love
Speaker 2: that message for women. And I also love that at
Speaker 2: the end they say long live the Queen and the
Speaker 2: king is trapped in his mirror, but he belongs right
Speaker 2: Like I don't know if I'm allowed to say all that,
Speaker 2: but I just love it. I think it's a great
Speaker 2: it's very timely. I think I just think it's resonating
Speaker 2: with all different audiences. Disney adults, Disney Fine addicts are
Speaker 2: loving it, and kids love it and think it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: And the music by Julian Michaels Phiels. It's very fresh
Speaker 2: and cool and hip and catchy. Like I mean, I
Speaker 2: listened to it every day because it makes me feel
Speaker 2: good and also I want to get those residual checks.
Speaker 2: Thank you, keep playing it on repeat.
Speaker 1: He played it on repeat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the merch deal will be disappointing for you.
Speaker 1: I'm very sorry.
Speaker 2: Yes, i've heard tell you because you've done you've done voiceovers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was going to ask you about that.
Speaker 3: So what well? First off, because you sing and sing
Speaker 3: so well, was this something that the people involved were
Speaker 3: aware of. Did you audition your.
Speaker 2: I did audition and I had to sing. Yes, I
Speaker 2: had to sing. It was like a prerequisite for the part.
Speaker 2: And I it's a good lesson for me, honestly, Brian,
Speaker 2: because I don't consider myself a singer anymore.
Speaker 1: This was twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: I was singing in college and I haven't really sung,
Speaker 2: and I was nervous and I was scared and I
Speaker 2: didn't want to do it. And I remember I was
Speaker 2: going to do press for undone when this appointment came in.
Speaker 1: I was going to south By Southwest and I had.
Speaker 2: No time, and I picked myself up by my bootstraps
Speaker 2: and I was like, you are a singer, you can
Speaker 2: do this, you can sing a cappella for days. And
Speaker 2: I knocked it out of the park. I was very
Speaker 2: proud of my tape and it led me to a callback.
Speaker 2: And then they changed the character. At first, she was
Speaker 2: actually an evil queen my first round of sides, and
Speaker 2: then they changed that she was going to be a grounded, loving,
Speaker 2: maternal queen. And I took the note and I did that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they knew I sang. I was scared.
Speaker 1: I did it. And then when it came time to
Speaker 1: recording the music. When we were doing this, it's a
Speaker 1: you know, it's a year and a half.
Speaker 2: People don't realize this, but it's about a year and
Speaker 2: a half from start to finish, almost two years now
Speaker 2: of doing the project, right, So I knew the singing
Speaker 2: was coming, I didn't know when. And I kept being like,
Speaker 2: am I singing? Like what's happening? Like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: am I going to get caught. I had heard there
Speaker 2: were songs, but I didn't know. And then Julia Michael's
Speaker 2: like sends you this demo and you have to like
Speaker 2: learn it, and then you go into the recording studios
Speaker 2: and you have I had lessons, and I had like
Speaker 2: a rehearsal period and it was so thrilling, and it
Speaker 2: just reminds me kind of like riding a bike, like
Speaker 2: if you have it in you, it's always there. And
Speaker 2: I just think that's a great lesson to remember, especially
Speaker 2: as a mom and someone who's like constantly putting other
Speaker 2: people first, like to remember that, like it's still in
Speaker 2: you just because you're not doing it every day.
Speaker 1: And I proved that to myself.
Speaker 2: And now I'm excited to sing more and I can't
Speaker 2: wait to hopefully sing more in other animated movies or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I feel confident about that. And then when I
Speaker 2: had kind of forgotten what the songs we even like
Speaker 2: kind of were, and then you see the whole movie Combine,
Speaker 2: You're like, I cannot get over that this is real.
Speaker 2: I could not believe it. And we couldn't even do
Speaker 2: press because of the strike. Everything was against this movie.
Speaker 2: It felt like, right like the day that their La
Speaker 2: premiere was happening in Hollywood Boulevard on Hollywood Bulevard, they
Speaker 2: shut down Hollywood Bivard. November eighth was the day we
Speaker 2: rad or we had come to an agreement, but we
Speaker 2: still could not attend.
Speaker 1: The actors could not attend, so I went by myself.
Speaker 3: It was the same It took pictures.
Speaker 1: It was yeah, it was the same day.
Speaker 2: Like I was like in plain clothes, like just like
Speaker 2: looking like weeping, just like looking at the beautiful premiere
Speaker 2: and we couldn't go.
Speaker 1: But that's, you know, kind of a great story.
Speaker 2: Now at the on the other end of it, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: that's amazing, Like I it was so beautiful. The premier
Speaker 2: was so and I've heard that, like the Disney premiere
Speaker 2: is the most amazing thing for your kids and everyone
Speaker 2: gets to go. It was at the l Capy ten
Speaker 2: and I we didn't get to go. But they've had
Speaker 2: other events since then that we could attend, like now
Speaker 2: that we're done with the strike obviously. But that was
Speaker 2: November eighth, and at five thirty two pm or whatever,
Speaker 2: they were like SAgs reached an agreement and so I
Speaker 2: like ran down to the thing hoping that they would,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, I called my team like can
Speaker 2: we please go?
Speaker 1: They were like no, and that would be a bad look.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't go. And I was like okay, so we
Speaker 1: couldn't go. Anyway. It was a it was ironic, just
Speaker 1: like of all days, right.
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, guess what. But it was a wish, it.
Speaker 2: Was a that's right, I mean wishes that we would.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to be able to promote it at
Speaker 2: least something. So we've been able to do some promotions.
Speaker 3: Well that is really cool. I feel like everyone who's
Speaker 3: an actor, they really would prefer to be either an
Speaker 3: athlete or a rock star a singer. Did you feel
Speaker 3: like it like when you went into the recording studio
Speaker 3: and stuff like did you did you have that like
Speaker 3: or was it just like a boring old voiceover?
Speaker 1: No? No, I was like, am I a rock star?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Exactly, it's true calling right.
Speaker 2: And by the end, because Benjamin and Benjamin Rice, who's
Speaker 2: the co writer of the music, and he like produced
Speaker 2: it so he's like the one that mixed it all.
Speaker 2: So Benjamin works very closely with Julia. They were there
Speaker 2: together directing me in that moment for that session, and
Speaker 2: I literally was like I can do anything. I was like,
Speaker 2: this is forget acting, forget comedy. I'm a singer. And
Speaker 2: I felt so confident, like I was emotional, I was crying.
Speaker 2: It's a very beautiful score, beautiful music. And it was surreal.
Speaker 2: It's surreal. But then you know what's so weird about that? Ryan,
Speaker 2: It's like I had this moment, it was so incredible,
Speaker 2: and then I had to go home and like Alden
Speaker 2: was puking and like my dog shit in the living room.
Speaker 2: It's just like, you know, working as as you're a parent.
Speaker 2: It's like real life, Like no one cared at all.
Speaker 1: I came holme.
Speaker 2: I was like, guys, I just had the best day
Speaker 2: of my life. And everyone's like, no, we have my
Speaker 2: chicken nuggets fell off the ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't care.
Speaker 3: They don't care.
Speaker 1: No one cares. And I think that's a really you
Speaker 1: know tumbling. It's a really good lesson, like you need
Speaker 1: these amazing lives, Like right, like we know.
Speaker 2: People, it's so fun. You have this amazing and at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, you're just a parent, You're
Speaker 2: just a mom. You're just trying to get through the day, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I get through the day.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever told this story before,
Speaker 3: but I'm going to use this opportunity. So my house
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles was a little bit of a setup,
Speaker 3: but basically the driveway went down towards the house. So
Speaker 3: there was a they call it a French drain right
Speaker 3: that the water would go into and then a pump
Speaker 3: would pump it because otherwise the house would flood. Like
Speaker 3: this is this is how this house was set up, okay.
Speaker 3: And I am in sweats on my hands and knees
Speaker 3: in the rain, with my hands in this drain one
Speaker 3: afternoon because it was raining and it had clogged with leaves,
Speaker 3: so not just water, but just like disgusting leaves mud,
Speaker 3: trying to clean this out so that because my garage
Speaker 3: was starting to flood, and my neighbor comes out, He's like,
Speaker 3: do you need any help? And I'm like no, this
Speaker 3: is the worst job ever. And then I turned to
Speaker 3: him and I said, you're gonna laugh. He's like what,
Speaker 3: And I said, in about two and a half hours,
Speaker 3: you're gonna see me walk out of my house with
Speaker 3: an umbrella covering me and a tuxedo on the way
Speaker 3: to the Screen Actors Guild Awards where we're probably going
Speaker 3: to win. And we did. But that whole day, I'm
Speaker 3: on my hands and knees cleaning just shit out of
Speaker 3: this French drain, like the most horrifying thing ever. And
Speaker 3: that's that's what you described. Like, it's like that's it.
Speaker 3: You see one you see, you see one thing, but
Speaker 3: in reality it's like.
Speaker 1: You don't know what my day was until I got here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, that is such a good story, and
Speaker 2: I love that so much, and I'll like, I'll never
Speaker 2: forget that.
Speaker 1: That's a great story. It's just so humbling, right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's just so becomes your black Car.
Speaker 3: To the SAG Awards. I cannot wish you any more
Speaker 3: best wishes. I don't know. I tried to use it
Speaker 3: too many times.
Speaker 1: I see you're wrapping it up.
Speaker 3: Yes, nailed it. Is there anything else coming up that
Speaker 3: we can look out for you? And are you back
Speaker 3: to work or that?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm coming out in a show. I don't know
Speaker 2: when I feel. I think it's the Spring. It's on Amazon,
Speaker 2: I want to say free V and it's called Clean Slate, Okay.
Speaker 2: It's starring Laverne Cox, nice George Wallace and I recur
Speaker 2: on that. That was actually the last thing I shot
Speaker 2: right before the strike, okay, And we were like day
Speaker 2: the day that.
Speaker 1: The writers strikes start.
Speaker 2: It was like this last two weeks of trying to
Speaker 2: wrap that show in Savannah. So that comes out in
Speaker 2: the spring, and then I am developing and I have
Speaker 2: several things up my sleeve and hopefully one of them
Speaker 2: will stick in the next couple of weeks. To be honest,
Speaker 2: we're getting there. We're back to work, Ryan, Mommy needs
Speaker 2: a job.
Speaker 3: Congratulations. One of these days we're going to have to
Speaker 3: work together again as well. Good luck with wish. Honestly,
Speaker 3: my next watch, I think is going to be undone.
Speaker 3: You've sold me and I was looking up all this
Speaker 3: rotoscoping stuff and I saw clips and yeah.
Speaker 1: You won't believe it. And what's so interesting.
Speaker 2: It's so interesting because when I watch that back season one,
Speaker 2: I had just had Adelaide.
Speaker 1: Actually no season one.
Speaker 2: I was like, it takes so long to shoot this thing, right,
Speaker 2: I was pregnant, very large for me.
Speaker 1: Then I you can tell that I like had the baby.
Speaker 2: It's like the trans my own personal metamorphosis in season
Speaker 2: one is wild. And then season two, I had just
Speaker 2: had Alden and similar, it's like you can just see
Speaker 2: throughout because they can't. It's like they only paint over you,
Speaker 2: so it's like your actual body side. It's like wild.
Speaker 2: It's wild for me to watch back wow. But uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel very excited and very hopeful and full of
Speaker 2: wishes for this new year and what's coming.
Speaker 1: And I can't wait to talk to you again. Maybe
Speaker 1: in next year. Let's see where we are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be there opening night on Broadway when I
Speaker 3: can't wait when it finally hits.
Speaker 2: That's on my vision board by the Way Broadway for
Speaker 2: the in the next five years, for.
Speaker 3: Sure, five years, not these.
Speaker 2: I'd like it, not this, not yet, not right now.
Speaker 2: There's too much stuff I want to do here. But
Speaker 2: also I've realized that Broadways now that I'm on the
Speaker 2: other side of those hopes and dreams of my monies,
Speaker 2: it's hard work, not a lot of money, rough, rough,
Speaker 2: rough schedule, And when you come from TV you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's like so cushy.
Speaker 1: I'd like, I don't know if I don't know if
Speaker 1: I had that in me yet.
Speaker 2: Let me just give me, give me a little minute. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's not as it's not all it's like cracked
Speaker 2: up to me. I could maybe do it for three months,
Speaker 2: how about three months?
Speaker 3: Good luck? Good luck, thank you so much, happy.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, thank you, Happy New Year,
Speaker 2: Happy towenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Angelique is so great to see you and shout out
Speaker 3: to Fort Bliss in El Paso High Fort Bliss that
Speaker 3: is where Angelique and her enlisted co stars went to
Speaker 3: train in the Hot Hot Texas. Everyone check out Wish
Speaker 3: in theaters now, whether you have kids or not, everyone
Speaker 3: loves a Disney movie. Am I right? Or if you're
Speaker 3: a little behind like me, go and watch Angelique in
Speaker 3: undone on Prime Video listeners. I'm going to be back
Speaker 3: here next week. Join me, will you? Until then? I
Speaker 3: hope your week is fantastic. Off the Beat is hosted
Speaker 3: and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive
Speaker 3: producer Ling Lee. Our senior producer is Diego Tapia. Our
Speaker 3: producers are Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris, and Emily Carr. Our
Speaker 3: talent producer is Ryan Papa Zachary, and our intern is
Speaker 3: Ali Amir Sahi. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak, performed
Speaker 3: by the one and only Creed Bratton,