1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: What's up everybody, and welcome to the latest edition of 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: the Falcons in Focus podcast. I'm Scott Bear. That's Tory 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: mclaney introduced himself. Ready, we've done seventeen of those. That's 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: a first. I know. That's congrats man, you introduced yourself. 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: He is Falcons defensive back, special teams extraordinary tone setter, 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: plays like his hair is constantly on fire, and unofficial 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: hype man for the Mercedes ben Stadium crowd because when 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: the man's done with kickoff coverage, he is like in 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: the crowd being like you stand up, You stand up. 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you get about as pumped as anyone I've 11 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: covered this league a long time. You love playing football? 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love the game. It's a it's a 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: passion of mine. I'm pretty sure what we're about to 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: have this interview is is gonna pretty much it's gonna 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: tell on into what why my passion is so strong. Yeah, 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: so my dad is pretty much my passion behind all 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: of it. And then plus you said on kickoff, I'm 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: going down on kickoff the next group to go out 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: there as the defense. Why not give those guys energy? 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: And you know we want the other quarterback not to 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: be able to hear. So that's my goal and that's 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: what fans can see on the field. But what we 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: see around the facility is Mike has fun with everything. Yeah, 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: And I want to bring up something kind of random 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: to start this. We we were in Washington State for 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: like a week and I think it was on a 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: Tuesday where a bunch of all went out to like 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: a military base and there are photos of Mike Ford 29 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: having the time of his life paint. He's shooting machine guns, 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: he's throwing grenades and apparently Avery Williams said collecting pins. Yeah, 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean well patches. Yeah. Yeah. We had Avery on 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: the podcast and he was like, yeah, somehow, some way, 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: we look over and Mike has all of these patches, 34 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: just like he's taken from people. We don't know how 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: that happened. Was that a real like kid in the 36 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: candy store sort of? Yes, I was definitely a kid 37 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: in the Kenny store. Like I said, my dad is 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: pretty much He's like, that's like my life. I'm not 39 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: gonna lie. So he was in the army, you know, 40 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: so just like getting to be around those guys. You know, 41 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: I'm I would like guns as well. So just seeing 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: like those guys and what they do and actually being 43 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: up in front person, I was like, man, I know 44 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: it takes like some work to earn those patches. So 45 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: I was like, let's let's see what happens if I 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: asked one of them for us. So literally, it was 47 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: just kind of one of those things where first person 48 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: I've seen I was like, man, I really like that patch, 49 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: like can I have it? And he took it off. 50 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm gonna collect all different ones, so 51 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: I've seen a different one. I asked the next guy 52 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: and it just kept going. As they asked me for autographs, 53 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: I asked them for their patch and we just trade 54 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: it off. Man, I love it. And also did you 55 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: get to sit in a helicopter or with it a 56 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: helicopter or was it a fighter jet? I want to 57 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: say it was one of the fighter jets. Avery was 58 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: in the front. I was in the back, and like 59 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: they was just showing us like all the tools and 60 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: how everything works inside of the plane. It was pretty cool. 61 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I experienced everything. 62 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: Everything they had literally they had the plane, they had, 63 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: whatever they had, I got into it. Yeah, So it 64 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: was just it was really interesting. I'd love to a 65 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: lot of I'd do it again. I'd love to do 66 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: it against Yeah. Is that kind of like your nature, 67 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: just like wanting to experience and do kind of different stuff. 68 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: Is that how you are, like away from the field, 69 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: different passions. Yea. From that, I'm definitely a guy that 70 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: wants to try new things. Like I've always been that way. 71 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: Like if we like when I was a kid, if 72 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: I seen a guy out there doing a backflip, I'm like, 73 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 1: all right, well let me try. How do you do it? Yeah? 74 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: You know, So it's just always how I've been. I always, 75 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, one of those people that's like, if you 76 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: can do it, I could do it. So like it 77 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: was just it's like kind of one of those things, 78 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: you know. So it's just something that I've always been 79 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: into me as a person. Something that I've always loved 80 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: to do is you know, try new things. So it 81 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: just comes naturally. Yeah, And it's I think for as 82 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: much of the of the of the fun loving kind 83 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: of parts like that we're talking about. I saw an 84 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: Instagram post from four hundred ninety three weeks ago, I 85 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: think exact already, I don't know a long time and 86 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: It was basically like it showed a picture of people 87 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: like dancing in a club and it said, y'all want 88 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: to do this, and then it showed a picture of 89 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft stage and it said I want to 90 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: do this. Yeah, And you're a guy from Southeast Missouri 91 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: state who is an established NFL veteran doing it the 92 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: right way the journey right, you know, like we're all 93 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: having fun here, but sometimes right, it's about work to 94 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: get to where you are and to be where you 95 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: are now after all of the hard work, undrafted guy 96 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: earned your way, is there some gratification for how you 97 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: did it and the way that you worked at it. 98 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: I give all my things to God man, Like I mean, 99 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: that's who, That's who I think. You know, I've always 100 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: had the mindset that I was going to be here, 101 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: but without God, it wouldn't be possible. Without my Dad's 102 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: like I said, everything it's pretty much gonna go back 103 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: to him. I feel like that's my angel. There's been 104 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: situations I've been in where I just know that it 105 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: was him putting his hand on me. So I just 106 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, yes, it takes hard work. You know, 107 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: it's not been easy this role has not been easy, 108 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: but like you said four hundred some weeks ago that 109 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: that was my goal and I wasn't gonna I wasn't 110 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: going to accept anything else. Yeah, to that end, I 111 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: mean when you kind of think back, and one of 112 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: my favorite things is to talk to people who did 113 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: go to smaller schools and trying to get on the 114 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: radar of some of these scouts that are, you know, 115 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: going to these big schools. I mean, do you have 116 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: a story of kind of a moment where you're like, hey, 117 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm getting on these people's radar and I'm gonna be 118 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: there one day. Okay. So it's crazy because like coming 119 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: in as a freshman at SIMO, like I was, I 120 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: was another guy, you know. But then we started doing 121 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: like summer workouts and I stood out and like a 122 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: lot of guys were like, man, like you're a little different, 123 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: you know. So like we did a little drills, I 124 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: compete and it was like we did it all throughout 125 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: the summer. I want to say, I lost one rep 126 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: and I I was a red shirt freshman at this time, 127 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: and like we I tested off the charts. I have 128 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: a lot of older guys there were my friends, and 129 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: they were like Mike, like you got a chance, dude, 130 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: Like how athletic you are, Like you have a chance. 131 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,119 Speaker 1: Just put this together, like put it together on the field, 132 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: like you have a chance. And my red shirt sophomore year, 133 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: I come out there and I led the conference with interceptions, 134 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: and like from that moment on, I was like just 135 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: having those guys around me, my friends, and that supporting 136 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: them telling me that I could do it. It was 137 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: like once I did that and I made all conference, 138 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I just need a chance to 139 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: get in the door. I need. I just need a 140 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: team to come to my pro day. Hey. It went 141 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: from you know, I put the film out there and 142 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: now it's come see me. That's all I needed you 143 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: to come see me because I, like they would say. 144 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I know I'm athletic enough to get 145 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: inside of this building once I get there, Like my 146 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: work will say stand for itself. So that was my goal. 147 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: And I'd say after my red shirt sophomore year, but 148 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: say I wear the guy's shirt. I wore it today. 149 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: Actually his name is Ryan Moore, and ask my guy man, 150 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: that's like my best friend. He's a roommate of mine. 151 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: He's actually one of my trainers that I trained with, 152 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: and that was the guy that would always tell me, 153 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: like Mike, you're athletic enough, just keep going, just keep going. 154 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: He was my starting corner next to me that year 155 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: or two. So you know that guy. He helped me 156 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: get the mindset going back because I after my freshman 157 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: year of college, I almost is this it? You know, 158 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: So he helped me keep my head on. He keep 159 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: my head on and keep everything straightforward. So you know, 160 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: I give a lot of thanks to him, and that's 161 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: one of my best friends to this day. And then 162 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: like once you get here, that's hard. Staying here is harder, 163 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: and you have found a way to stay in there 164 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: both on defense and special teams and just just being good, 165 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: being steady, right, I mean like once you get here, 166 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: then like how do you stay here? Like what's your 167 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: mindset going through? Because I mean, like worry what year five? Now? Yeah? Five? Yeah? 168 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: So funny story man, coming in, Like I said, I 169 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: was undrafted. I want to say my signing bonus was 170 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: like seven thousand dollars, so I got like five five 171 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: after that. You know, I didn't have a place to live, 172 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: none of that, so you know, I was really like 173 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: I gotta work, like I gotta go to work, like 174 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: if they cut me next week, I'm not gonna have anything, 175 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: you know. So it's like I just went in there work. 176 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: Funny story, man, my m my, my rookie year. I 177 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: walked to work the whole preseason. How long the walk 178 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: was that I stayed. I stayed literally, I want to 179 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: say it was two minutes. So they have the Lions 180 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: facility right here and have apartment complex like literally a block. 181 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: It's a stoplight right there and that's where apartment complex is. 182 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: I lived right there, And like you said, what helped 183 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: me get here is I prided myself in I was 184 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: gonna be the first person there. I was gonna be 185 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: the last person to leave. Part of that was because 186 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: I didn't want anybody to see me walking. So I'm 187 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: going to be the first person there because nobody, nobody's 188 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: gonna see me walking to work. So I probably myself 189 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: being the first person there. And then, funny story, we're 190 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: playing Chuck Washington this week. He was a guy that 191 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: was a special teams guy that you know, he taught 192 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: me a lot and he used to just like stick 193 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: around in the building. He just be there. So then 194 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: it became a competition for me, Like I'm very competitive. 195 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: It's like I see him there, all right, Well what 196 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: else can I do while he's here? And we would 197 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: just compete and I just stick around, and I stick 198 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: around because I knew he was a teamers guy. And 199 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: I mean that's ultimately my competition, right, so my rookie year. 200 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I just probably myself being the first guy there, 201 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: then last guy to leave. Anytime somebody wanted to take 202 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: a playoff, I ran out on the field, whether it 203 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: was with the ones two is whatever the coach would 204 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: have Mike, no, no, no, we got this guy. So 205 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: I just tried to steal every rep I could. I 206 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: tried to make a play like that was my actual 207 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: goal that I hadn't with myself, was make a play 208 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: every day. That way, they can't get rid of you, 209 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: because if they see you on film every day, how 210 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: can they let you go if it's something good? And 211 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: that was just my goal. Man, be the first one there, 212 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: last one to leave, make a play a day, And 213 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean so far that's been. That's how I take approach. 214 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: Every day I come out here on this field and 215 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm still here, so and still here, and you kind 216 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: of mentioned that that you have your angel right that 217 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: we're sitting here talking to Mike Ford junior. Let's talk 218 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: a little bit about Mike Ford senior. Um, just for 219 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: those who don't know, Um, your father passed when you 220 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: were about six months old in a single car accident. Correct, 221 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: And I guess Tory and I kind of kept kind 222 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: of talking about this, and when you're that young, we 223 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: kind of thought like, how do you learn about your dad? 224 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: How do you find out about all the good things 225 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: that he did? And we've read and there are a 226 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: lot of good things. Yeah, right, how do you like, 227 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: how do you go about finding out about those things? Well? 228 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: Like my dad here, Um, he's very diverse with his friends. 229 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: I always say so, Like here, everybody in the city, 230 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: Um pretty much knew him, you know. Um, Like you said, 231 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: it's when you're kind of a crazier guy on the field, 232 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: it's easy to point that guy out. He was one 233 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: of those guys on the sideline kind of like me, 234 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: rolled up, he'd banged his head on the bench. He 235 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: was like one of those guys. So everybody knew him. 236 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: He was a nice guy, do anything for anybody. So 237 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: it's just his character was you know, self explanatory when 238 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: when you talk about him, everybody wants to talk about him. 239 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: So it was it wasn't much for me to growing up. 240 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: You know, my guy dad was my dad's best friend, 241 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: so it didn't take much for me. You know, pop 242 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: a question here and there, popa question, and everybody wanted 243 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: to tell me, like, man, your dad was this way, 244 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: your dad was this way. So everybody just feed me 245 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: stories because of who he was as a person. They 246 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: wanted me to know, you know, who he was. So 247 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: everybody just telling me all these stories. And then it 248 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: wasn't until like I did in the last interview, until 249 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: I was ten, when I finally got to meet my 250 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: dad's mom and my grandma and all of them. And 251 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: then that's when it like really like I don't I 252 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: took a deep dive into like who he really was. Man. 253 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: I got to read like his letters from the Army. 254 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: I just got to really understand who he was. See 255 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: all this trophy, see everything he pretty much accomplished. And 256 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: that's when I really liked, I really understood who he was. Yeah, 257 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: because I'm sorry to He was a high school football player, 258 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: a pretty good one. He was in the army correct, right, So, 259 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean he had accomplished a lot early on when 260 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: you kind of are in this process of kind of 261 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: finding out about who who this person was, not just 262 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: like two people around you, but how he could impact 263 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: your life. I mean, do you have a story that 264 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: kind of that you heard over the years where you 265 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: were like that kind of epitomizes who I believe he was. Uh, 266 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: I would just say, man, like a lot of the stories, 267 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: it's just crazy because they're all like like I mean, 268 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: it's just like a lot of good stories about him, 269 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: like for example, like somebody do something wrong to him. 270 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: Like for example, my dad he was a big collector 271 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: in coins, so he collected like half dollars dollar coins, 272 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: he collected quarters. He'd have them all like in binders 273 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: and stuff. Oh yeah, I used to when I was 274 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: a kid. I collected the state quarters, Like any time 275 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: there was a state quarter. I would I remember those 276 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: little binders that you'd slot them in. I know exactly 277 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: what you're Yeah, he used to do that. And then um, 278 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: my mom's brother, I guess the story. My mom's brother. Uh, 279 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: one day he had a lot of like quarters and 280 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: stuff in his car, and my mom's brother, like my uncle, 281 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: he stole it from him, you know, and except for 282 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: getting mad, like the story is like my dad really 283 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: just looked at him. He's like, dude, if you needed 284 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: a couple of bucks, like I would have gave it 285 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: to you. And he pulls out like a twenty dollars. 286 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: He's like, here, though, you can have this, you know, 287 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: And it was just like that just shows his character. Like, man, 288 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: it's never about like he doesn't. It's not about the 289 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: material things, man, It's more so about you know, a 290 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: respect thing. You know, I'll do anything for you, and 291 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: that's something that I live by. Like you can ask 292 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the locker room, like they 293 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: know I'll do anything for him when they're down, I'm 294 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: right there for him to pick them up. Like it's 295 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: just it's just you over me type of mindset, you know, 296 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: put somebody else first. Yeah, and I probably should have 297 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: asked you this before we were on camera, But can 298 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: we see your right for him? Can you see the tattoo? Uh, 299 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty much okay. Well well then well then 300 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: just kind of describe it to us. I'll show you 301 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: want to show you or no, sure, what the heck? 302 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 1: Why not is that good on call? I mean, like 303 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: I just describe it to us, add some photos later on. Basically, 304 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: I have like on the top of my arm is 305 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: pretty much his football number, number forty two has his 306 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: name above it. His numbers are in red because he 307 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: went to Autumn Red Birds. That was his logo his 308 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: numbers school. So his colors. I have dog tax because 309 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: he was in the army. One has the year he 310 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: was born, the other has the year he died. Um. 311 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: There's a flag coming down for like his American flag 312 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: thing because he was an army. Um. I have an 313 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: eye back there, which everybody jokes like you're looking at him, 314 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: but it's like no, it's like it's like my dad 315 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: pretty much symbolizing that he's always watching over me. He's 316 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: always looking out for me. Um. I have two clocks 317 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: with stairs going up there, one the day died and 318 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: the day was born, and the inside I have dal 319 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Shoon and mother the father family first on my wrist, 320 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: which is a matching tattoo with my brother my mom's name. 321 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: I kind of have like a dead tree in a way, 322 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: and I chose to do that because like my foundation, 323 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't like it wasn't like we didn't come from much. 324 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: You know, we didn't have much, but we made use 325 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: of what we had. So I mean, it's a dead tree, 326 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: but it's living and it's holding up pretty good. Yeah, 327 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: i'd say, so, you know, i'd say, that's like our foundation. 328 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: And then I got this big shark in the middle, 329 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: because that's me. I'm willing to attack from mine and 330 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: always swimming. Just keep swimming, you know. As as our 331 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: good friend Dory once said, Now, it's funny too because 332 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: you're talking about it just kind of how your story 333 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: just connects and everything you talk about not coming for much, well, 334 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: you get into the league and you are able to 335 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: buy your MoMA house and is wait to talk about that? 336 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: So I watched we watched the video that you had 337 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: put on Instagram and got me. Man, it was first 338 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: of all, it was funny because my favorite part was 339 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: you running through the house and you're in the garage 340 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: and you're kind of just like peeking underneath when when 341 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: she does pull up. But please tell us a little 342 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: bit about what like that day and kind of what 343 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: that day was like for you. I would say that 344 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: was that was like a life goal being accomplished that day. Uh, yeah, 345 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: because from the moment the moment that I picked up 346 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: a football, I told my mom my fault, no, you're 347 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: kind of worries man. Um. Yeah, from the moment that 348 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: I picked up a football, I told my mom, did 349 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: I get her a house? Because like, growing up then 350 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: my brother shared a room and Todd was like, fits 351 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: ain't sixteen and my little sister stayed in the room 352 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: with my mom and my stepdad. So we ain't have bro. Sorry, 353 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: we don't have nothing, man. Uh. I don't want to 354 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: embarrass myself, but yeah, like we don't have much, bro, 355 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: Like we made it look like we had a lot, 356 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: but we don't have nothing. So that was my promise. 357 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: From the moment that I picked up football, was like, 358 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you a house. And like I saved up. 359 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: I saved up damn there everything. Yeah, you know, I 360 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: went undrafted. I bought it after what my third, third 361 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: or fourth year, So I ain't have nothing. I ain't 362 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: have much. I just uh so I took it. And 363 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: my brother he was he's he's smartest. Hell he uh 364 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: he had got a job in Houston and that's the 365 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: place that like I really wanted to live. And my 366 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: mom like my family where all we got bro So 367 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: my mom was just getting really upset about my brother 368 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: and so far away from home, and I had a chance. 369 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: I took it. So I bought her a house. I 370 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: had enough to get her a house. I got her 371 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: a house. Surprised her. I act as if because it 372 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: was around my sister's birthday. I active as if we 373 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: were going to Galvingston Beach for like her birthday or whatever. 374 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: And then when we got done with that, drove. I 375 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: had them drive out to the house and I told 376 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: him that we're going to meet at like the Turkey 377 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: Hut factory or the turkey leg factory. Ye, I'll get 378 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: some food because that's a big deal with Yeah, And 379 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: they were so excited, and my brother he was like 380 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: playing along with He's like, man, we're late. Mike's already 381 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: got the table. My Mom's like going crazy on the phone. 382 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: So then they finally pull up and I opened the 383 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: garage and I'm like, welcome home. My mom's like what, 384 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: like you probably seen the vision Nick Young, so yeah, 385 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: and then I'm like this is your house. It's like no, no, 386 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: it's not. I'm like, no, here's your key, this is 387 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: your house, And she went in there, she cried, It's 388 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: just it's just a life goal accomplished. Yeah, she was. 389 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: She was so cute too, because she was like, I 390 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: can't believe you're recording me running Like she did not 391 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: like like one thing about her. She does not want 392 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: you to record her, whether it's a good time or not. 393 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's such a special story. And I mean, no, no, 394 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: never apologize for that. I'm kind of but no, it's 395 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: it's so it's just so it's just such a good 396 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: story and I'm I'm emotional about it too. But like 397 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 1: when you're going through that process of like finding your 398 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: mom a house, like I know how particular I am 399 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: about like the things in life, like a like a house. 400 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I want to make sure that this 401 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: is exactly how she would like it. You know, how 402 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 1: did you go about that process? Because I feel like 403 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: it would be really difficult to kind of be like 404 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: looking for a house for somebody else, not just yourself, 405 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: but for somebody else to kind of be like, congrats, 406 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: this is yours, Like how did I how did I 407 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: pick that house? You know that it was something that 408 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: was for her, Yeah, yeah, um so yeah, during the 409 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: process it was pretty much like it was like a trick. 410 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: So I was more so like going about it as 411 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: if like I was buying this house for me. Yeah, 412 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: you know. So I went on and I was like 413 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: shoring heer like I had like four or five houses. 414 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, what do you think 415 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 1: about these houses? And I was like, how do you like? 416 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. She's like, I always thought 417 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: when you got your house, like you get a bigger one, 418 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: that bigger one than this one all that, and I'm like, yeah, 419 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, I just want to make sure that if 420 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: anything happens, you all can come stay with me and 421 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: stuff like that. She's looking at it and like there's 422 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: one house that she really loved and she's like, man, 423 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: I really liked this house for you crazy like my 424 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: house that I have for myself now it's kind of 425 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: like the similar layout. But yeah, so then, um, I've 426 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: seen one and like I was like, you know what, 427 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: out of all like it was, it's not it wasn't 428 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: the house that I had already shown her, but it 429 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: had like all the same things. So I would say, 430 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: you know, I really liked this one. I feel like 431 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: this is the best one you know. So I was like, 432 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna take a chance. I'm gonna go 433 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: get it. Like my brother was in Houston. I was saying, 434 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: what do you think go check the house out. He 435 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: went and checked it out and everything, And from there 436 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: it was just kind of like like I told you, 437 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: we don't come from much, so like what she whatever, 438 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: She's gonna expect that. Yeah, so you know, it was 439 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: just more so finding some stuff that I feel a 440 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: big enough house for everybody to be able to come 441 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: back to it's necessary. And then just something that I 442 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: feel like she would love. And like when I say 443 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: like she loves the house, like it's like she never 444 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: wants to leave Houston. Yeah, that's her place. Now. Oh 445 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: that's so great. Now were you had you already bought 446 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: a house before you bought her house or you bought 447 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: her house her house first? Yeah? I bought hers first. 448 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: I bought hers what two years ago? And I got 449 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: mine like at the beginning of this year. Got Okay, 450 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: that's awesome. I mean some of the stuff that she 451 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: said on this video and I'm not trying to get 452 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: all emotional with the thing again, but she said, I 453 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: can't believe this day has come, this is the best 454 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: day of my life. I was like, oh my gosh, 455 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: like like that's the kind of impact like that you 456 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: want to have. And I know she had a huge 457 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: impact on you growing up. Um and specifically I read 458 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: I think in the Detroit News wrote a good story 459 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: about you and said that, um, she saw you having 460 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: fun at like a family reunion, playing football or something 461 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: like that, and then and then she signed you up. 462 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: Like can you remember that day at all? Really? I remember? Yeah, 463 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: so I can tell you the people that were there. 464 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean, like it's set up this moment, right, yeah, right, exactly, 465 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was a park back home. It's 466 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: called Salu Park. It's pretty much like in the summer, 467 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: we have like a like a back to school event 468 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: that they do really well in the city and they 469 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: hand out like school supplies, they play basketball, like everybody's 470 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: out there just having a good time. Like that's pretty 471 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: much what our city does during that time. So it 472 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: was one of those days, you know, and then we 473 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: were out there we had like a family reunion or whatever, 474 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: so curse some people from the city came out hang 475 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: out with us, Like you know, city's pretty small, so 476 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: we just hang out so I had a couple of 477 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: people out there and I'll never forget like my my 478 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: brother's dad, rest in peace to him. Uh he was. 479 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: He was the one that actually, like we did like 480 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: a little draft and he picked me on his team 481 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: and it was just like one play. I never forget it. 482 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: I did like a little flat route swing. He threw 483 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: me the ball and my uncle saying, Luke Hardeman telling you, 484 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: I know it, like I was running. I was running 485 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: to the sideline. He came out there. I joked him 486 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: really well boom, and like when I said, we're playing 487 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: with like these guys are probably like twenty years old, 488 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm like ten years Okay, I like playing with older people. 489 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: So I joked him and like I ended up getting 490 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: a good amount of yards, and like everybody's going crazy, 491 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: Like I'm the ten year old. Everybody's like, oh, you 492 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: just got a joke team. So then next thing I know, 493 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: my mom signs me up for football. I go out there. 494 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: It's crazy. Uh, I go out there. The first year 495 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: I play, right, I am a nose tackle. Oh yeah, 496 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: it's funny. It's funny. So I'm a nose tackle, but 497 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: mind you, all of the practices I'm the fastest kid there. 498 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: I get done first, So it made no sense, right, 499 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: So it did. Then I was having fun with it. Yeah, 500 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: I was clearly enjoying it. But my mom was like, 501 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: he's not using you, right, so we're not going to 502 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: play football this year. So like I didn't play football, 503 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: Like I played like half that season and I didn't 504 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: come back and play. So then the next year, like 505 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: my mom came up to the same coach. He's like, 506 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna play my son the right way. I come 507 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: out here, watch him every day. Run. He's the fastest 508 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: person the team. Give him the ball. Good for her. 509 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: So then I come out there the next year, and 510 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: like I always played for older kids, I was with 511 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: the older kids, so I was like the backup running back. 512 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: But like that year, I scored like four or five touchdowns. 513 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: So then I was like, all right, I'm pretty good 514 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: older kids. I'm scoring touchdowns. So then, uh, the year 515 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: after that, I come back. I played for the same coach, 516 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: but I'm with my age group. I ended up like 517 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: making the front page of our newspaper and all of 518 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: this stuff. That, uh, long story short, they've retired my 519 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: jersey this year from that little league for that little 520 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: league team. Yeah, so like it was like my first 521 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: experience with football. I had to quit because your mom 522 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: knew they weren't using and she obviously knew what she 523 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: was talking about. She didn't know what she was talking 524 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: about because I mean, it worked out for you and 525 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: I went. I mean I ended up going to college 526 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: to play running back, right, you know, so I mean 527 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: give me the ball. It's just a smart thing. Do 528 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: you still have the front page of that newspaper somewhere? 529 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: I have it. I have it in so like my 530 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: grandma when because I met her pretty much when I 531 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: started playing football, Um, she created me like these booklets 532 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: and stuff that has like all the newspaper articles I've 533 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: been in. Like, I have pretty much all my articles 534 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: and stuff like that because she keeps up with him 535 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: still getting this cut them out. So I have like 536 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: pretty much all of them. And yeah, I have I 537 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: have that one. Literally, I have that that newspaper. I 538 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: have one in my scrap book. I have one that's 539 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: an original copy. And then I have one at my 540 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: mom's house. Three of them, all yours covered. It's not 541 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: going anywhere. That's so great. Yeah, And there's a it's 542 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: a on top of your Twitter profile. I think it's 543 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: it's like a it's like a family photo of your 544 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: your mom, your brother, and your brother's dad. Right, and uh, 545 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: Mike looks exactly like I looked. I was like, he 546 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: just got bigger, but he looked. Yeah, if you could. 547 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: You were talking about, um, your brother's dad, your your stepdad. 548 00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: I assume, Uh what was he? That's my dad? Yeah? 549 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: Your dad? Yeah? What was he? How influential was he 550 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: in your life growing up? Like I said, I mean 551 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: he picked me on this team at the party. It's 552 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: pretty much the reason that I started playing football. You know. Um, 553 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: he played running back growing up, so that was kind 554 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: of like his transition to me is to teach me 555 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: how to play running back. But yeah, like I said, like, um, 556 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: that's not that's my dad. Yeah, you know, like I 557 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: got a father and I got a dad. That's how 558 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: that's how I view it. You know. The dad is 559 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: that's the that's the person who took care of me. Yeah, 560 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, and my father is who who gave me life. 561 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: So you know, um yeah, he pretty much he pretty 562 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: much is everything the reason why I'm playing. Like I said, 563 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: he played running back. He taught me everything. He knew. 564 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: He brought me to practice every day. He made sure 565 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: I was there, made sure I had to write equipment 566 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: like he just he just made sure that I had 567 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: everything I needed to be successful in football. Um raised 568 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: me all my life. So, like I said, man, that's 569 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: like big ups to him. Man, he he made me 570 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: who I am. And I think this year was the 571 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: first time you've ever hosted a youth football camp, right 572 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: and if one, that seems super awesome and fun because 573 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: the kids look like they were having a blast. But 574 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: thinking about everything else that we've talked about so far, right, 575 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: then it's a full circle thing. You didn't have a lot. 576 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: Now you're in a position to give back to your family, 577 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: to get back to kids. I don't know if you 578 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: had it back in your hometown or like where you 579 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: had it, right he So with everything that we've talked 580 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: about and where you come from and what you're about, 581 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: that day must have been so cool, oh man, Like 582 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: it's crazy because like I try to hold my emotions 583 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: in a lot, you know, as far as tears and stuff. 584 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: But like I was giving the speech, man, I had 585 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: to cut my speech in the middle. Like Heye of 586 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: one of my guys that have been here, like give 587 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: a speech and tell them about football, you know, because yeah, 588 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: you just start getting emotions seeing all these little kids 589 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: and just wondering like, man, what if one day one 590 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: of these kids or me, Like what if they end 591 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: up where I am and I could be able to say, Man, 592 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: I've played a part in it, you know. So I 593 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: just I got emotional. Man, it's just seeing those kids there. 594 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: And for me, it's more so you know, each one 595 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: teach one. That's something that I've posted on my page 596 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: multiple times. That's something that I pride myself in, is 597 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: you know others before yourself, because I mean we're nothing 598 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: like one man can't do nothing by myself. We gotta 599 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: be together, right, So Man, I feel very inspired, and 600 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: I thank you for kind of opening up and sharing 601 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: everything with us. I mean this has been very heartwarming 602 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: for for For I speaking for myself, I feel like 603 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: I could speak for you. Yeah I can. And it 604 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: kind of makes sense. Right. We know this positive guy 605 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: who loves every moment. And here's the backstory, you know, 606 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: and the reason why and why you're so energetic on 607 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: the football field. Right you always tap your right arm, ye, right, 608 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: tap my I taped my right arm up here. I 609 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: haven't gotten my black heart yet, but my dad, my 610 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: brother's dad name was black. So I'm gonna get a 611 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: black heart right here. But like before every game, I 612 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: access if it's there because I haven't had time to 613 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: do about Tap up here, I kiss up to my father, 614 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: tap my wrist, kiss up to my dad. I jump 615 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: up and scream and let it go, and then it's 616 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: and then it's time to play football. Man. Uh. Now 617 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: we're moving on to I don't know. Is it our 618 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: favorite party? It is our favorite partie party? Is it's 619 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: it's a rapid fire let's section. Everybody gets the same question. Yeah, 620 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: I haven't watched the show, so I don't know. Okay, good, 621 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: then we don't want you. This is authentic. Okay, all right? Um. 622 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: Number one, your favorite play of your career. My favorite 623 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: play of my career has to be my first special 624 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: team play. Um, I went down that gunner? Uh and 625 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: I down the ball on a two yard line against 626 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. Nice. So yeah, that's probably that's probably 627 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: my favorite play because it's my introduction. There you go. 628 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: That's a good one. Yeah, that's really good. And because 629 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: you you think maybe you know a you know, a 630 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: crazy interception in college, you know, like something like that, 631 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: but like that's a good one, like special Teams at 632 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: the two. It's kind of how you've kind of made 633 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: your name and you're a good defender obviously, But I 634 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: mean there's so much that goes into that um TV 635 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: show that you're either one of your favorite TV shows 636 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: or a TV show that you're binging right now. Scooby Dooby, 637 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: is it like the animated one? Yeah? Yeah, that's my favorite, 638 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: freaking love that. I'm a big Scooby Doo girl. I 639 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: used to watch like Cartoon Network, like girl mine was 640 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: Scooby Doo and my God Sisters splengeb. I mean Yeahlma 641 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: was my kindred spirit. Is my girl back the exactly? Okay? 642 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: Next one, what is your favorite game day fit of 643 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season. Game day fit you're saying, 644 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: like one of your arrival fits out because is this 645 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: a real question? Yeah? It is. I I want to know. 646 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,719 Speaker 1: Is it the Jokers because we were curious, we were 647 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: looking at this day and it's scared even I'm like, 648 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: that's gonna haunt my night. Yeah, yeah, it's definitely the Joker. Okay, 649 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm glad because that was the one that uh, we 650 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: looked at quite frequently because he was like, I like 651 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah. Yeah. It was funny too because when 652 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: I do a show for Fox five called Rise Up Tonight, 653 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: and we always do like a Falcons fits segment and 654 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: kind of all of y'all's outfits and everything. You've been 655 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: on there a few times, so congratulations, but that one 656 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: was She was like, who is it. I was like, 657 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: it's it's Mike. I was like, Mike has the mask on. 658 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: And she's like, Okay, I need to make sure because 659 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: we need to say who it is. Yeah, And the 660 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: thing that's gonna stick with you is that when you 661 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: get into the dark, the eyes yea, like find a 662 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: photo of this or maybe don't, um, if you want 663 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: to kind of let's see which Falcon do you hang 664 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: out with the most? Oh, I hang out with D'Angelo Malone. 665 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: That's my guy. Yeah, that is my guy. He's he's 666 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: funny as hell. You know, he keeps me laughing. He 667 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: is an energy guy. You know, he's always positive. Like, 668 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: that's that's just my guy. Man. I love I love 669 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: that guy. That's my guy. Cool. Um. Last question, what 670 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: is your biggest pet peeve. I said this on the 671 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: last interview, Um, I really just don't like negative people 672 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: said negative energy, Like I'm I'm the type of person 673 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: like if we're sitting here and somebody starts to get 674 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: to negative, like Mike's gonna disappear. Yeah, Mike, I don't 675 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: really want to be negative stuff. Yeah, that's a good one. 676 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: Because Scott and I were talking, He's like, he's such 677 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: a positive person, he may not have a pet peeve, 678 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, or it could be one of 679 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: those things that there's just just the one thing that 680 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: just completely turns off that like negative like my mom 681 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: can get negative. Anybody that's negative rom like, I will ghost, 682 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: I will get away smoke. Like if I try and 683 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: make you positive and it doesn't work, then yeah, good night. 684 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: Now well wow, this is why we do this podcast. 685 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely exactly right here I came. I've been knowing a 686 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: little bit about Mike Ford. I feel like we're friends now. 687 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: Fascinating story. Thank you so much for sharing it, and 688 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: thanks to everybody for downloading and listening. Please please please 689 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: with Sugar on top rate review, subscribe to the Falcons 690 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: podcast Network. We're coming up to the end of the 691 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 1: season here one more episode left, and please be sure 692 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: to join us for another great guest next week. See 693 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: you