WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: How Good is This Defense?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips and Bill Jones. Another beautiful day for football

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<v Speaker 1>and Oxendard, California. We are living the American dream. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got my patriotic colors on sei there. I'm red, white

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<v Speaker 1>and blue today and this is talking Cowboys, Bill Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips, Brian brought us in. Mickey Spagnola and why

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<v Speaker 1>I said, right off the top, we are living the

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<v Speaker 1>American dream. Because just moments ago I saw one of

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<v Speaker 1>the workers here at the Marriott River Residence in the

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<v Speaker 1>River Ridge, and I said, we just said in passing

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<v Speaker 1>high to each other. I said, how you doing? He said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm living the American dream. So I think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>attitude all of us should have today. I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>were wearing your Oklahoma No, no, no, that's this just

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<v Speaker 1>came up in the rotation. Yeah it's this. It's this.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the ten outfits you have out here, this is

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<v Speaker 1>disnumber one or disnumber three. Whatever we wear today, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I did laundry on Monday. We're back around in the rotation. Good,

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<v Speaker 1>this is number two in the rotations. It's a little

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<v Speaker 1>large for me, so I have to tuck it in.

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<v Speaker 1>So working working out, you're doing that, well, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>too long. Okay. It's like I wearing a dress, so

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<v Speaker 1>you got to tuck it in instead of what we

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<v Speaker 1>normally do out here is people have untucked shirts right

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely out. Nightmare. I don't think my deals working here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you can you hear your head? So I can't hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what you do. Here's a professional broad already. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>do you do that with your all right? I was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wait to the break, Mickey, But that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine's the American nightmare. And by the way, Mickey has

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<v Speaker 1>made amends with the leaf blower out here. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>new one. It's a new one. It's a different different guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have got him fired. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>this guy at least asked. He goes, now, what time

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<v Speaker 1>do you start? I said nine o'clock. He goes, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be done by then. It's like all right. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, the leaf blower affected the Jason Garrett press conference.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it yesterday? Yeah? I was yesterday yesterday. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to know if anybody knew the leaf blower? And I

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<v Speaker 1>looked over at Mickey and the press conference and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like doing this like nod. Yeah, yeah, he's had

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<v Speaker 1>his own d leagues with him. As we get the

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<v Speaker 1>headset corrected here, how is that? Was everybody doing well?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not supposed to say, how's everybody doing? Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is practice number six today, how's this team doing out here?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what yesterday. Defensively, the team did very well.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that if you were if you were scoring

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<v Speaker 1>the practice the way the defense came out, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of it started with the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing with the two on two, with the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive backs working against the receivers, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, now you get a couple of stops,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a couple of nice plays, you knock the

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<v Speaker 1>ball away. Chris Richard is you know, now the coach

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<v Speaker 1>is involved. The coaches The coaches like, now he's all

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<v Speaker 1>over the receivers. And so I've never seen a coach

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote to some of my notes, it's up on

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys dot Com today. I've never seen a coach

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<v Speaker 1>get after the other like the the offense or the

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<v Speaker 1>defense the way the challenging. Yeah, he it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>challenge him and it was like he was willing to

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<v Speaker 1>go out and fight those And I can only imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if Golly does Bright or somebody was here been Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been a lot of fun. But there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of energy with the practice, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of energy from the defensive side of the ball. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw turnovers, they work on that all time, Layton vanderesh

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<v Speaker 1>ripping one out there, so you know, interceptions, We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>kind of all kinds of things from this defense, some good,

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<v Speaker 1>some bad. But yes, I thought the majority it was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Did you see the way justin March Lillard

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<v Speaker 1>finished off that race to the end. Yeah, as he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to beat the coach, he's weaving through the one

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<v Speaker 1>on one offensive. I was watching the pass rush one

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<v Speaker 1>on one over there, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>here comes a guy flashing down there. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>did a flip into the end zone. Yeah, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, that's what you need after a day off, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you get out of your routine, you get a

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<v Speaker 1>little relaxed and you gotta juice people up. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that might have been somewhat what was behind

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<v Speaker 1>the emotion. But it was good. It's a training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. I think it's what you need for the

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<v Speaker 1>entire camp. In practice. You got so many new faces,

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<v Speaker 1>you got so many young guys, and I think we

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<v Speaker 1>probably asked the question day one, like who you mentioned Dez?

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<v Speaker 1>Who replaces Dez's intensity? Yeah, I think it's a coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's Chris Richard, honestly, And uh, well that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're still I think we're already seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>DB's feed off of what he does. Um, they love

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<v Speaker 1>him already. Confidence. Yeah, that's something you know. Usually you

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<v Speaker 1>see a guy like Byron Jones, who's usually pretty you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he could play pretty reserved. I mean he gives you

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<v Speaker 1>the incomplete when he knocks away a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he had, you know, makes us continue to make plays

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<v Speaker 1>here in this camp. But he he was They were

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<v Speaker 1>they were going back and forth. Lance Lenore and Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis were getting into it, and Jordan Lewis tried to

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<v Speaker 1>jump in there and get Lewis. We'll get into it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what I'm saying. And then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Chris Richard's like, you get out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't run these drills. Somebody else get in there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, he was like he he wants

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else to get a piece, you know, And he

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<v Speaker 1>was yelling at Jorge, he was yelling at Lanceloor like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want us, you don't want us. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh gosh, I mean this is but that's

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<v Speaker 1>but that's I think, like, you know, we're all talking

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<v Speaker 1>about here, the energy level at practice, like Mickey said too,

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<v Speaker 1>especially after a day off, you know. And the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about Jason Garrett, he grew up in a system here

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<v Speaker 1>like when they when Mickey you guys were covering the

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<v Speaker 1>team in Austin, there was a lot of that. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of going back and forth. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of competitive So he's gonna let things go.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna he's gonna let the jawing go, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let the physical play. You know. He's not quick to

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<v Speaker 1>jump in there and break it up. He's letting guys

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<v Speaker 1>go at it and be competitive. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's something like Rob said, it's good to see actually

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<v Speaker 1>secretly he's smiling. And how about those days you used

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<v Speaker 1>to cover like the joint scrimmages with the Raiders and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Al Davis is like, okay, we've had enough,

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<v Speaker 1>pull them back, you know, and Jimmy's got his pomp pomp,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, you're doing it. But that's I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have to have that. Now. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>seeing you go out in cheap shot guys in camp

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. But if you're if it's if

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<v Speaker 1>it's guys rallying for each other, you know, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. And as Chris Rashard said after practice, it's

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<v Speaker 1>iron sharpening iron. It's it's your challenging the offense and

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<v Speaker 1>the and vice versa. The offense challenges the defense, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how the whole team gets better. Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 1>by tomorrow will have a good one. Yeah, we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>one of those firefights, you know, dash fights of francs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, before we get started off, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk a lot about the defense over

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the next hour and yesterday's practice. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we jump into everything, of course, you can join

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<v Speaker 1>day out here. It's a great it's a free experience,

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<v Speaker 1>up close with the these Cowboys players and be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. But Sunday is the is the annual

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<v Speaker 1>Blue White Scrimmage. A lot of it will look like

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<v Speaker 1>a regular practice. They'll have a scrimmage though at the

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<v Speaker 1>end it's gonna be televised right here on Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>dot com and on t XA twenty one in Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Fort Worth as well. Yeah, and again to reiterate your point, though, Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>come on out and see because the intensity has you know,

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<v Speaker 1>through one week, there's a lot of kind of feeling

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<v Speaker 1>some things out it. And now you know players know

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<v Speaker 1>this too. You know, you start running out of practices,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you start running out of Okay, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a game next week, and these games are gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>coming from a Yeah, games are just gonna start coming fast.

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<v Speaker 1>And the next thing you know, it's gonna be September

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<v Speaker 1>one and they're gonna have a cutdown. So the sense

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<v Speaker 1>of urgency for the players, yeah, for the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are on the fifty three man roster, you think that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be. But there's some guys are battling for spots

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<v Speaker 1>that are trying to get noticed here. So it's good

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<v Speaker 1>if you can to come out and see, Okay, who

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<v Speaker 1>who's making that that that rise up? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned Dorian Armstrong in my notes, guys that you know

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<v Speaker 1>he's drafted, but you know they're trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>some things, and you know, those are the types of

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<v Speaker 1>guys you want to come out and see and before

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<v Speaker 1>they have a before we have a chance to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. And it's seventy degrees. That works, it is,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's kind of hot, man, There wasn't there was

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<v Speaker 1>no marine layer yesterday, and that kind of gets guys

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<v Speaker 1>going a little bit. When it's hot, it gets fiery.

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<v Speaker 1>You got Christopher Shard out there yelled at people. But

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<v Speaker 1>from your band's perspective, more often than not, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a marine layer in that afternoon practice. And it's very pleasant, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very pleasant to watch practice. And uh and in an

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<v Speaker 1>added treat on that day, in particular on Sunday, and

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, practice starts a Pacific time at four o'clock,

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<v Speaker 1>six o'clock, uh, central time, would you say, though, that

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<v Speaker 1>the defense won practice yesterday? Absolutely? Yes. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>it was about time by the way they started making plays.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the funny thing is the first question, uh

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, people start asking, oh, so's Dak struggling? And

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<v Speaker 1>then it's like that's the problem when you when you

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<v Speaker 1>say that either side one practice yesterday, well that means

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<v Speaker 1>something must be wrong with the other side, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And and I think you know it helps that um

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<v Speaker 1>you have um DeMarcus Lawrence on the field a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit with the first teams and so you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Chris Rahshard made a good comment and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>we we were almost done with our installation so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not new stuff all the time. It's executing. It's executing

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<v Speaker 1>now because you've been you've been doing this. Uh And

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the other thing is that, um so

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<v Speaker 1>the offense starts working on stuff too, right, because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of what they were doing yesterid there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of blitzing going on with the linebackers. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the guys when I was on the fan noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that the quarterbacks were running a little bit more and

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like design runs. I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 1>were broken play. Yeah, but a lot of times if

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<v Speaker 1>you're blitzing like that up the middle, then the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna go, okay, I'm going outside. Got off. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey makes a really good point. There are doing the

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<v Speaker 1>installation stuff. Has been a lot about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>blitzing some of the games, some of the twist I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned arms Strong about him a lot of guys getting

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<v Speaker 1>involved playing on the left side. Now, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>something else they didn't. I think you guys probably noticed this.

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<v Speaker 1>Played a lot of zone coverage yesterday, and so what

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<v Speaker 1>the ball kept getting checked down, check down, check down,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, and that's and you know, the quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>are taught too. If they don't read, if they're playing,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're dropping aid or drop it set whatever they're dropping, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the that's the throw. That's the throw. And it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of probably became a little frustrating watching practice because

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<v Speaker 1>the ball is going to the back, the balls going

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<v Speaker 1>with the tight end, the ball is going to everything's

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<v Speaker 1>going underneath. But that I thought that I thought they played.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really one of the first times I've seen him

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<v Speaker 1>play extensive zone coverage where a Woozier was instead of

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<v Speaker 1>being up on or Byron Jones being up on, they

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<v Speaker 1>were board a side retreat mode, trying to funnel everything

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<v Speaker 1>into the middle of the field, and it just forced

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<v Speaker 1>Prescott not to throw the ball when he tried to

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<v Speaker 1>throw the ball down the field. They had good coverage

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<v Speaker 1>along the sidelines, safety over the top, so they were

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<v Speaker 1>doing what they needed to do on defense. If that's

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<v Speaker 1>if they're planning yesterday was work on zone coverage to

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<v Speaker 1>keep everything in front of him. Well executed yesterday. To

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<v Speaker 1>that point, I thought, we saw what Layton vander esh

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<v Speaker 1>can do covering. He was the way he can drop

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<v Speaker 1>and move for a guy his size, He got a

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<v Speaker 1>he got his hand on a ball I think stripped

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<v Speaker 1>the ball intercept. That was a blake. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>on Blake. John ripped the ball out his left hand. Yeah. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, is a tight end a receiver in

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<v Speaker 1>a tight ends body. I mean, that's impressive to cover

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<v Speaker 1>him down the sideline, forced a turnover. Basically, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>very instinctive back there, and I think we saw what

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<v Speaker 1>they can what they're hoping from him in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>coverage from that middle linebacker spot for sure. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing that they I think I saw and correct

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<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong, but they were running some three

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<v Speaker 1>man line Yeah, and vander esh was in there with

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<v Speaker 1>the first group, right, So that's the first time I

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<v Speaker 1>think we've seen that, Yeah, because normally he's been the

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<v Speaker 1>second group. Wondering any any of you wondering what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of opportunity the first round draft pick is going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to get on the field this season. Uh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be out there. Yeah, he may not walk out

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<v Speaker 1>there with the starters at middle linebacker day one, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to create a role for him that that

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<v Speaker 1>he fits in. You know the other thing about Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about the checkdowns, yeah, so what has

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<v Speaker 1>Eerie been at? Well, can they throw the ball to

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<v Speaker 1>zeke Moore? Yeah, then they start throwing the ball at

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<v Speaker 1>zeke Moore. It's like, well why can't Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>no way. I look at this as Dak Prescott doing

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<v Speaker 1>what he needed to do to get the ball in

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<v Speaker 1>his hand at least give his chance to get another play.

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<v Speaker 1>I applaud christ Raschard and Ride Marinelli for saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna work on our own coverage today and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, I use

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<v Speaker 1>this term, and like I would see Claude, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>claud and cover is what we're gonna do. And they

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<v Speaker 1>did a nice job of that. I mean Prescott, you

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<v Speaker 1>could see him on his progressions looking He's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't throw that one. I can't throw that one.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when he tried to throw that one, they

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<v Speaker 1>were a good shape defensively. They were a good shape

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<v Speaker 1>to make plays and knock passes down. And I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to see the defense be able to do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>really really do. But the other thing, sorry, Bill, the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing I thought you saw was these bigger corners

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<v Speaker 1>the impact they can have, particularly on smaller receivers. Saw

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<v Speaker 1>Cheeto make two pass breakups in a single series against

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<v Speaker 1>Beasley anti Tavon Austin. And that's a situation where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to put these smaller guys on the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're smaller and they're quicker, but as Sanjelao told

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<v Speaker 1>us after practice, make there are situations where if they can,

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<v Speaker 1>if you allow them to jam you, then then you

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<v Speaker 1>can be intros. And that's that's what happened and Cheeto

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<v Speaker 1>and we're seeing Byron Jones to use his frame and

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<v Speaker 1>his link to disrupt guys at the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's exactly good point. They try to throw a ball

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<v Speaker 1>to Thompson down the left sideline there and Thompson's been

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<v Speaker 1>separating from people pretty well and Byron Jones says, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not not. This time, you're not. It was right hand,

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<v Speaker 1>left hand, right hand, and the next you know, Dak's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw it anyway to see if Thompson didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get his hands up. I mean, he was beaten up

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<v Speaker 1>on the line so badly by Byron Jones. It affected

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<v Speaker 1>the way the play ended up. But the execution of

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<v Speaker 1>the play. So again, tip of the hat to the

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<v Speaker 1>secondary yesterday. They've had I think they've had a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of some some times where they haven't looked as good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've talked about these receivers quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>that they've been pretty consistent. Yeah, Chris Rashard, he grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>him all by the neck yesterday and drug him with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at the far end of the field on

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown's pick. What happened on that offside? Okay, what

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<v Speaker 1>a great read though, if you're talking about vision in

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<v Speaker 1>relation to where the receiver and where the past. Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>took the shot to try and get it out there

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<v Speaker 1>on an off side situation. He got him with a

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<v Speaker 1>hard count. Flagg goes out, he's gonna throw it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But great break on the ball underneath by Anthony Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and some of the covers were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>actually happened in the seven on seven drill too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Still there's no rush, right, So it was it was coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>It was coverage, and you know there was one play

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<v Speaker 1>where they tried to run uh tops and deep. What

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<v Speaker 1>built I mean, what Brian said about his speed and

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<v Speaker 1>a Woozier was with him, and Woods was with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and and Dak had no place to throw the ball. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and he ended up overthrowing him. But it was because

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<v Speaker 1>they had him covered. So you know, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>good day for them. And as I said, it was

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<v Speaker 1>about time. Yeah, you know, and from a fan perspective

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<v Speaker 1>and also from a TV guy's perspective who is just

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a couple of highlights to put on the

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<v Speaker 1>ten o'clock news that night, it came across as a

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<v Speaker 1>bland practice because there were no big place from the

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<v Speaker 1>offense highlight all that defense. So but we did highlight

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<v Speaker 1>the defense. What we showed was Cheeto with two pass

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<v Speaker 1>breakups and the two plays plays. Talking about there and

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm really excited to see a Wougier this season,

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<v Speaker 1>and and just seeing his second year, and we saw

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<v Speaker 1>it at the end of last year. We saw a

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<v Speaker 1>glimpse there. But playing that left cornerback position, it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a key you saying it, Yeah, And uh, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be really fun to watch his progress. This just needs

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<v Speaker 1>to live up to number twenty four over there, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>And he's wearing number twenty four. And I've talked to

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<v Speaker 1>him about his knowledge of Everson Walls and uh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's learning about Everson. He's learning. We gotta we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get him together. We win you to get back to Dallas, Everson.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta have a meeting of the twenty fours. That

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<v Speaker 1>that won't be difficult. Yeah, that's right. Everson would jump

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow first preseason game, actually the Hall of Fame games

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow night. That's right, that's right, the Thursday night. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's working. I can hear myself here, you guys, Oh good,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody could hear me? Oh golly before bears in

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens tomorrow night. Yes, Sarah's yeah, yeah. And Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame induction ceremonies this weekend. And speaking of that,

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<v Speaker 1>we were speaking a Cheeto a moment ago. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys he looked up to growing up was Brian Dawkins.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going into the Hall of Fame this weekend, Brian Dawkins.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hate talking about a Philadelphia Eagle here on

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<v Speaker 1>talking Cowboys, but Cheeto says he really studied Brian Dawkins,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a parallel between Cheeto and Brian Dawkins. Dawkins

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<v Speaker 1>is the only player in NFL history to have twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five or more interceptions, force fumbles, and sacks in his career, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you look at Cheeto's resume at the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Colorado and heption sacks, force bumbles, they were they

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<v Speaker 1>were up there. I was with Brian Dawkins in Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety eight and actually ninety seventh season, and

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<v Speaker 1>and if is one of my favorite players I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>been with, well is Darren Woodson. And what Darren Woodson

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<v Speaker 1>means the Dallas Cowboys, Brian Dawkins means to the Philadelphia Eagles.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was a he was a professional. He was

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<v Speaker 1>he was accountable, he was a great teammate. People looked

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<v Speaker 1>up to him. I really enjoyed being a part of

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<v Speaker 1>a staff where he was on it. We didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of great players, you know, we had, but

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Dawkins was one of those guys. I have always

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<v Speaker 1>admired his his toughness, and you know that there's certain

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<v Speaker 1>players in this league that did things the right way,

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<v Speaker 1>played the right way. Brian Dawkins very deservingly to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hall of Fame. But you know, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sad to this point. Then it's not Darren Woodson, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just maybe Dawkins getting in. I hope, hope, okay, because

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<v Speaker 1>they both they both had very in my opinion, if

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you look at the type of careers, here's one guy

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:10.680
<v Speaker 1>who was a Super Bowl, super Bowl winning safety. You know,

0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 1>he meant so much to Dallas cow was in Brian

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Dawkins to what he did from Philly. I was just

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.040
<v Speaker 1>hopeful that Darren Woodson would be able to get in

0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 1>before Brian Dawkins. But I you know what I have

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>no I have no ill will towards Dawkins getting in

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>because I think he was outstanding in his own right

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia. It's one of those things. Safety's a position,

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, Mick, there aren't a lot of Hall

0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of famers from that position that get in, And I think,

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:39.200
<v Speaker 1>what's what'son certainly deserving. At some point you're gonna have

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Ed Reid coming up eligible and Troy Paulamalu and those guys.

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 1>But man, yeah, you look at what Darren meant and

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.680
<v Speaker 1>what he still means when you think about Look, they're

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>still looking for a big time center field free safety

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:54.720
<v Speaker 1>to help this team. Has there been a guy since

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Darren Woodson in two thousand and three that's done it

0:23:57.520 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 1>for him? And that shows you his value right there.

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>If if Brian Dawkins is in the Hall of Fame,

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 1>then wood He's in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, John

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Lynch has been a finalist I think as well recently.

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Please I agree. I mean I stayed in facts. No,

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I know, if you if you had me, if you

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>asked me to rank them though, of the three of

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the guys we just mentioned Woodson, Dawkins, Lynch, but then

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you look at the guys, like you said, Ed Reid, Yeah,

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, Ed Reid changed the game the way he played,

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:31.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, with the free the free safety, the way

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:33.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was able to roam around and play

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and coverage and stuff like that. Well, the thing of

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 1>it with Dawkins is he had those stats and yeah

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, and yeah, uh like tackles, well, no, like

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 1>what I mentioned about the sacks, interceptions, seven interceptions, thirty

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:51.400
<v Speaker 1>six sports bumbles twenty six got those rings though, you know, yeah,

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and and fifty seven interceptions anything exactly exactly a lot

0:24:57.640 --> 0:24:59.399
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of a lot of mistakes in the

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>National in the Hall of Fame, I think I think,

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 1>just real quick, I will say this, I think that

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 1>there's guy's like Rick Goslin who was on the committee,

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the veteran Committian stuff. There's a lot of things that

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 1>those guys are having to try and correct. You can't

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 1>take a Hall of Fame away from a guy. But

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I think the guys like Goslin and them are trying

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>to do a better job of guys that you're mentioned,

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the Everson Walls of the world, that that people are overlooking.

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 1>That he's not letting that dream die. He didn't let

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 1>the dream die for Jerry Kramer, you know, I mean

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Kramer. I mean it was goodness gracious, you know, forever.

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 1>So so I'm saying Rayfield right, it's another one. He

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't let the dream die for Rayfield, right, Or Bob Hayes.

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Here's a guy from him Detroit, Michigan. You know, Rick Goslin,

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and he's fighting for Dallas Cowboy players. But it's very,

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>very difficult. It's because you mentioned there's such a great

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>class coming up. But he's trying to get these guys,

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 1>these senior members that have been talked about for years

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and years and years. He's trying to bring them to

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:57.879
<v Speaker 1>the forefront and the biggest problem is to keep going.

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Here's mc bryan rant the biggest problem with the voters

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>of the Hall of Fame, in my opinion, is they

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't see a lot of these guys play. We've all

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:09.119
<v Speaker 1>seen these guys play. We've all seen now, Rob, I

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.400
<v Speaker 1>know you're a younger guy, but we've all in our career,

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 1>in our lives seen some of these veteran guys play,

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and we know what type of player there, and you're like,

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 1>how can he not be in the Hall of Fame.

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 1>We read Jerry Kramer's book, Yeah, yeah, that's saying yeah, yeah, see,

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>but that's what I'm saying, though, those these guys are

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>the pillars of the National Football League and so and

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 1>ever since last year was last year, right, wasn't it.

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know? Yeah, And that Walls being that old,

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 1>well he's my age, but that's that's that's but that's

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>does have a gray hair. That's the thing about it is, though,

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you do have people in Canton that are willing to

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 1>fight for these guys and not let that dream Mcteingelhoff.

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's guys that played back in the sixties

0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and the seventies that my favorite football and they center

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 1>from the Minnesota Vikings, and so what happens is you

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't. You don't lose that dream. You

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>don't lose that because again, we the voters and this thing. Oh,

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see. I didn't see mc tingelhall play. I

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't see. You know, we don't have enough of that

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 1>of guys standing up and or ladies for the other

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>thing of the game of football has changed over the

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>years too, and those stats are different now than what

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>they were, and too many people that vote are antal

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>all they look at his stats. There you go. I

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>was wondering where you're going with that. All right, Yeah,

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>there you go, Ray, and for Worth, you're first up.

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:43.160
<v Speaker 1>You're the late off hitter on Talking Cowboys. Hello Ray,

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone. Uh. I don't just want to follow up

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>on Darren Witson. I think he deserves it, but I

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>want to know one is gonna get in a ring

0:27:52.400 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 1>of honor because I a writer. They d he's in,

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>He's in during Woodson's in. Okay, I'm sorry because I'm

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>looking on this list on the website now I don't

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>see still in Dallas Coways dot comment. I thought maybe

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you were talking about Everson Walls because he is not

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>in there, and he deserved it too, but everybody just

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>seeing the catch, I guess, and but okay, my question,

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I have a question. I've just been a while this

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>The theme of this season has been like Dak friendly.

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>So now with all the changes, with days going on,

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to go into that. Um, I

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>think this is a critical term for him because you're

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>time's coming when you're gonna have to make a decision

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>on the contract and whether or not he's worth franchise money.

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not talking about Aaron Rodgers franchise money because

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.479
<v Speaker 1>that's ridiculous. I'm thinking more along the lines of at

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>least Garoppolo. So I think I think this is a

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>critical time. And I know, Mickey you mentioned this team

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>has been thirteen and three in such and such, But

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>at what time does under Garrett or whoever, does the

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>playoffs matter? Because we haven't had much success in the playoffs.

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Garrett's going anywhere because Jerry alluded to it.

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I think in the opening press conference he's the guy

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>that get Jerry to fish Jerry, But at what point

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>do we have to take that next step to be

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>successful in the playoffs, because it can't always just be

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>about the regular season. I am excited though with all

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>these changes. The thing I'm most excited to see up

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>from a defensive standpoint, is seeing Van Deresh and Lee

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>on the field at the same time. Thanks, all right, right,

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>we appreciate it. Um, where do you want to go?

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean he said it. You know, this is this

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>is Dak's big opportunity. He's eligible for an extension after

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.959
<v Speaker 1>this season, and Stephen Jones has said it. I mean,

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, if they have if he has a great season,

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are probably gonna have a great season, and

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>they have no problem paying him a core le based

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>on a certain level of performance. And they've they've already

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>budgeted that, They've looked down the road. It's certain, you know,

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>cap structure and what they'd have to do to accommodate

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.959
<v Speaker 1>something like that. But you know, yeah, it's a big

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>year for him. It's a huge opportunity for him and

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the whole teams. Yeah, you're right, it's a big year

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 1>for everybody involved, especially you know, the quarterback, the head coach.

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you have a situation where you don't

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>have success, you know, they've this front office has shown

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>they're willing to make changes. You know, Jason Witten did retire,

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>but you know, they got rid of Dez Bryant, They've

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>moved on, They've they you know in that and you're thinking, man,

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>they might not ever do that. So I do think

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 1>that this front office is willing to make changes if

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>things are not successful. You know, My hope is I

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want to cover a football team that's not good.

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's the selfish side of me right now.

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>And I don't like to see people lose their job.

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>But if if it comes down to performance, then you know,

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll see. But there's a lot of pressure and it

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>was one of our twenty questions on dallascotways dot Com.

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>More pressure on Garrett or on Prescott, you know, and

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I think both everybody kind of win a different direction

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>there because Dak's trying to get a deal, Jason Garrett's

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to keep his job. I think that's those are

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>things that are very motivating for two guys right there.

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>And then you're looking at such a young roster, Yeah,

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>which makes this season so intriguing how this young roster

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>develops and very quickly because they want to win now

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>they have to with a young roster. They have to. Yeah, right,

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>they have to and uh so uh and then as

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>far as Vanderesh and Sean Lee playing side by side,

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 1>we're going to see that. Yeah, we are going to

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>see that. Butt're all going to see Jalen Smith playing too.

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't think that. I don't think you know,

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be you know, find a way to get

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.239
<v Speaker 1>those guys on the field, whatever it takes to get

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, Jalen Smith is worked in a way in

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>a manner that I feel like he deserves that. It

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't it doesn't. He doesn't deserve just because they drafted

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Layton vandersh nineteenth overall to lose his job. I mean,

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>if Layton Vanish is good enough to do it, then

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>we've seen some really good things from Jalen Smith out here.

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've seen some things coverage wise. They've been

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think he could do. But oh you can still.

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh there, Um, just he just goes. I know, I

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you could hear me, if I can't

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>hear myself, if I can't, Okay, all right. As a

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, he was star b yesterday. Sure I

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>had to decide between a Woozier and Jalen Smith. Because

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought he had a really good day, a really

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>good day in coverage. Uh, he was, he was mobile, activing. Yeah,

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought he had an excellent day. That was the

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>best one I saw from him too. By the way, Yeah,

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be fun if and we've seen it out here. Uh,

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>if Jalen Smith is playing like the college Jalen Smith,

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be fun to watch. If he plays like

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>college Jalen Smith, they really stole the guy, you know.

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that I think that you were ways away

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>from that right now. But but it's working, as they

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>would say, it's trending in the right direction for him. Okay,

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 1>let's just let's take the take the physical aspect out

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>of how he's moving out of it. Right From a

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>mental standpoint, basically entering his second year as a middle

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 1>linebacker in this league, what should we expect. I think

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>he will see things better. I think there were times

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 1>last year he didn't see and he was in the

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 1>wrong gap like he was. I don't know if he's

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>guessing he's over here and the ball's over here. And

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I think when you see things better than you can

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 1>react a lot quicker and be where you're supposed to be.

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's one of the things that we

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>have to keep an eye on here because if you

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>look at it, I mean we pointed it out, they're

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>they're rushing their linebackers a lot more, even against the run.

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>It seems like I don't know if this was a

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Chris Roshard influence or what, but that's the most I've

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>seen linebackers just going forward all the time. The other

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>part of that, Mick is is they readily admit they

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>played him more than they wanted to thrown in Yeah,

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 1>probably out of necessity and as much football as he

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>had missed, yeah with the injury. UM. I don't know

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.760
<v Speaker 1>if exposes the right word, but there's more chant times

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>where he's he might not see things as well as

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>a basically a rookie linebacker on the field, and I

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 1>think with more experience he's I think you see it here.

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I think you see him diagnosed plays out here and

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>you're not tackling, but you can see that he's making

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>the right decision. Where he's gonna have to improve is

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the coverage aspect, and maybe they're gonna take that away

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 1>from him and make him a blitzer, and I mean

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that in respect. I don't mean that as a punishment

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 1>that he can't cover anybody where Mickey's right though, when

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>he's reading the stuff, hitting the right gap, scraping the

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>right gap, you know, being where he needs to be

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>to make the tackle. That's been really, really good. And

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 1>but there's some things coverage aspect wise, where he still

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 1>has a little bit of trouble where he, like Mickey,

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>he gets distracted. You know, all of a sudden there's

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 1>a crosser and he's like, I'm gonna jump that route.

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 1>But then behind him, though, is Blake Jarwin on a

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.839
<v Speaker 1>post route where he needs or a corner route where

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:08.279
<v Speaker 1>he needs to sink a little better, and behind him.

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>So that's experienced. That that's all experience about how to

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>play in coverage. But you know, it's also being aggressive.

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>It's also wanting to make a play and he's gonna

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>have to. And I think the thing that I worry

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>about him most is the coverage aspect, the downhill player,

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 1>the tackler, the running to the football. I don't worry

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>about any of that. And the things you like about

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Layton Vanderesh and the things you worry about him. You

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>can almost flip it, right, Yeah, you can. You can,

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:35.280
<v Speaker 1>you can flip it. You'd say Layton vanderesh and coverage

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>is a much better player than than than than what

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you had with Jalen Smith. But he doesn't get off

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>blocks like Jalen Smith does. He doesn't play with his

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>hands yet like Jalleenson. Now he could snife through and

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>make plays when guys there, you know, don't block him stuff.

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>But that's that. You're right, you could flip the two

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and uh and, but you put him together, you'd probably

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.399
<v Speaker 1>have a great player. That's why Rod Marinelli is saying,

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 1>we got three linebackers for two bots and they're all

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna play. Are you might have three three spots? That's

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 1>what I'm That's my next question. You don't want to

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:09.800
<v Speaker 1>put too much on the plate of a young player

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 1>like a Layton vander Esch and his rookie season, even

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith going into his third year but second year

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>playing Damien Wilson is going into his contract year. Yeah,

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 1>let's let's fast forward for a moment a year from now.

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<v Speaker 1>Could we see a linebacking corps where they are able

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 1>to figure out a way or it's obvious the way

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:34.280
<v Speaker 1>is there where you could have all three Lee, vander

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>esh and Jalen Smith on the field at the same time.

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a great possible. I think it's a

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>great possibility because to me, you know, when you talk

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>about the master plan, Yeah, when you when you talk

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>about Damien Wilson, there's still mistakes out there for a

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>veteran player. I mean, he run hit factors good, but

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 1>there's still times out there where you say, oh, he

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>can't do that. You know, you can't run under that

0:36:57.800 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 1>block like that. You gotta stay why you know, there's

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>stays you watch him and you say, Okay, that's a mistake.

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a mistake of veteran guys shouldn't make What I

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>what I what I propose is gonna happen is they're

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna be willing to live with mistakes from Jalen Smith

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to mistakes from Damien Wilson. And that's why

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see I think Jalen Smith probably take that job.

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're gonna say, okay, you know we were

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>so here from now you could see that, Yeah, is Lee,

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 1>assuming he's healthy and right, you know, at the will

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>right Vander Esh in the middle and Jalen Smith is

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the SAM. Yeah, well they can and they can play

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>him in the SAM at the SAM a little differently

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 1>than absolutely doesn't have to line up on the line

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage, play off the ball, can play off the ball.

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.800
<v Speaker 1>But he's got going and he's also you could in

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the nickel. You could keep him on the field and

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 1>he can rush the passer. Either play when you play

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 1>the Giants and you're in nickel the entire game, who's

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>on the field for you at linebacker? We'll see that's now.

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>It's now you have to figure out, though, do you

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 1>want to play with Mickey's three man line and have

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>him be the you know, or do you want to

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>do that or do you want to just or you

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>want to keep him on the field and rush for

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>him be the fifth rusher? You know that, I mean

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>there's I mean that means you'd have to take somebody

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 1>off because you got the nickel player. But man, it's

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a it's a difficult thing to have

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>to do it. If he becomes such a good rusher,

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:25.479
<v Speaker 1>you immediately have to figure out something that. Okay, who's

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 1>our better cover guy? Vander Esh or Lee and then

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 1>now who's our better rusher? But but would you say

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the reason that they would not implement that now this

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:37.320
<v Speaker 1>at lates at the start of this season, is because

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to overload mentally, a vander Esh and

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 1>a Jalen Smith where they're eleven basically one of them,

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.280
<v Speaker 1>or are Jalen Smith in this case learning two positions

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>and you in the vix I would I would go,

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I would be okay. I think Jalen Smith understands what

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.280
<v Speaker 1>it takes to play mic linebacker. I think the sooner

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you put him along the line, I think is the better. Okay,

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>because I'm I'm okay to think with watching Vanderish practice,

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>his tongue was dragging a little yesterday, you know, I

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:05.360
<v Speaker 1>mean he was running all I mean, that's he's a

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.840
<v Speaker 1>he's a you know, he's a guy that likes to

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 1>get to the football. He likes to run to the ball.

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 1>He's an athletic guy for a big guy. But he

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 1>was it was kind of like he's playing a lot

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 1>of snaps out there, and I was thinking, Okay, he's

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>looking a little you know, but that's good. That's okay.

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.720
<v Speaker 1>In practice, let these guys go out there and struggle

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But it didn't like he was struggling mentally.

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, usually when you get tired, you struggle mentally.

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 1>He just might have been a tick. So they threw

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a ball over the top of him. Uh and in

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the drill that that Wells caught. David Wells caught and

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 1>if if he wasn't tired or kind of you know,

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 1>war down a little bit. I think he makes that play.

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>He jumps up the near the ball just goes right

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 1>over the top of his hands. But you know, he's

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>he's got to learn. He's got to learn how to

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:45.839
<v Speaker 1>play in coverage. He's gotta learn how to play the run.

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have no problem with throwing him out there,

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>because I think that both Smith and and uh and

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>and and h Vanderish can learn on the go. I

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't see I don't see mental lapses with

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 1>those guys as players. Now. It might be it might

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 1>be some awareness sometimes with Jalen, because I can say,

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're jumping a route guy behind you, you

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 1>should have been behind you. But I don't I have

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:11.879
<v Speaker 1>no problem with throwing those guys out there and letting

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>them go we're gonna come up with the new formation

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 1>three three five that exists three down, three linebackers and

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>five dvs. Yeah, call it TCU. Run that it is

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a formation that exists. Yeah, I mean it's nicky. Didn't

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>just create that, but that they created that is very

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 1>That is TCU. Yeah, we're gonna call at the quarter,

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:38.480
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<v Speaker 1>Do Cowboys? Continues here from ox Star. It's cooling off

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<v Speaker 1>us a call. Nine seven two four nine seven forty

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<v Speaker 1>four hundreds. So how good is DeMarcus Lawrence? Wow? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think? I think he's very good. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think we've already we've seen glimpses already this camp. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks like he's in a regular season. It's difference

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<v Speaker 1>between him being on the field and Tuckle Charlton being

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<v Speaker 1>on the field at the defensive end. Yeah, Tacos fighting

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to his shoulder and to his credit, he's out there

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<v Speaker 1>practice and it's not good for him. Right now, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say this, how good he was? I I there was

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<v Speaker 1>a there was a pass rush. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>Bill you were down at one on one pass rusttro right,

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<v Speaker 1>did you see the rush he had against Lyle Collins

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<v Speaker 1>where Collins blocked a little bit on it? Okay, Collins,

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<v Speaker 1>Collins sets on him. He's coming up the field on

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrences coming to the field, Collins sets on him and

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<v Speaker 1>it really hammers him and it kind of knocks him

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<v Speaker 1>off balance to where he's now kind of reeling and

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<v Speaker 1>and Collins sees it. And Collins is like, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>blood in the water, he's going for the kill. So

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:02.280
<v Speaker 1>he starts after him. Well, Lawrence, that sees what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>He ducks, He completely ducks, and Collins goes over the

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 1>top of him. And then on the other side here's

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence comes up and then heads for the quarterback to

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 1>get the sack. That's a matrix stuff, right, I mean

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 1>He's completely off balance and Collins is like, oh, I

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>got you. Now I'm gonna get you, and he makes

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>this incredible ducking move to get under his hands and

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.320
<v Speaker 1>free himself. He's to get to the ball. It's just

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:32.919
<v Speaker 1>a tremendous outer. DeMarcus had injury issues early in his career,

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:35.839
<v Speaker 1>sure did, but you know, and Rob Barnelly, I think

0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>was talking about Taco Charlton needs to harden his body. Yeah,

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 1>how much of it has just been for DeMarcus Lawrence

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:47.800
<v Speaker 1>obviously aside from being injury free, but just his body

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 1>becoming an NFL body. And I mean how far has

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:54.839
<v Speaker 1>he progressed since his rookie season. I think. I think

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:58.440
<v Speaker 1>what people don't see from him if you're not around him,

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 1>is how strong he is. Yes, I mean this, This

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:07.720
<v Speaker 1>is not your two hundred and fifty pound line slash

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 1>linebacker defensive end who's all about the pass rush. This

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:14.320
<v Speaker 1>guy will plays. This guy will play the run, and

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 1>he'll play hard and and and that's I think what's

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>impressive because a lot of his sacks aren't like swift moves.

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 1>It's effort because he's fighting inside. He didn't mind coming inside.

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>They better be ready for that because he will fight

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 1>you inside. What we saw last year was that relentlessness

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.359
<v Speaker 1>that he had on the field, and you can tell

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.839
<v Speaker 1>just the way he strengthened his body and so forth

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:40.719
<v Speaker 1>he had. I'm sure he has that same kind of

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:43.800
<v Speaker 1>relentlessness in the weight room and conditioning and so forth.

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.839
<v Speaker 1>And that's what's made the huge difference in his career.

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's something at draft time you don't really know

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>about a player, just how hard they're going to work

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 1>at it. He's also added to his arsenal. He's got

0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 1>into it. He's got an array of different moves, and

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:00.320
<v Speaker 1>it goes back to what DeMarcus where he's says, you

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 1>gotta have a lot of different tools in your toolbox.

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 1>And you watch him out here and he's he'll change

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 1>it up on guys, and you watch these one on

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:09.759
<v Speaker 1>one drills and he's he's at a different level than

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>these other day. He's really good at knowing his you know,

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 1>they always say the first axiom of warfares know the enemy.

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.240
<v Speaker 1>He knows the enemy, he knows how to attack somebody.

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>If if you're a guy that pays a lot about it,

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 1>if you if you're a guy that plays soft, he

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 1>will run you right to the quarterback. I mean last year,

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean we did a tail of the tape with

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 1>him broke down that Bill Deer. I think it's how

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 1>you say that the tackle. Yeah, and he's a soft

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>setter and one of his sacks was he just said, no,

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:39.359
<v Speaker 1>you're not good enough. He just took Bill Deer all

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the way to Carson Palmer and like you know, dumped

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 1>him on the ground and then you know, captured Carson Palmer.

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 1>So he has an idea of how to play you.

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 1>He knows that. Okay, if I'm gonna if you're a heavy,

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:52.800
<v Speaker 1>handy guy, I gotta get rid of your hands. I

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 1>gotta get to your shoulder. If you're a guy that

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:57.439
<v Speaker 1>is a little bit slow on your feet and heavy feet,

0:46:57.680 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get to your corner. I gotta dip you

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>into to the quarterback. But he's got a great field

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>how to end up at the quarterback end position. He's

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:06.719
<v Speaker 1>not these guys that you see just keeps running up

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the field, ring up Philly, just keep washing him, washing

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and washing him. He's got a plan for how to

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 1>be where here to capture the quarterback. Yeah, I thought

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you were going to say, Carson Nevada, Carson Palmer, all right,

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Philippe in France, beer on Talking Cowboys. I love all

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:32.120
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0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:35.800
<v Speaker 1>shows now in Oxnard. Thank you technology, and thank you

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 1>technology man who are pushing the buttons. All right, thank yeah, yeah,

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 1>good job him yeah, Bill, welcome back to the show. Well,

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:52.280
<v Speaker 1>thank you. I got a question because of my own schedule,

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and Judy, I got a hot times as swimming show

0:47:56.000 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 1>life or even on the replay because of the summer vacations.

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 1>My question is who will each one of you or

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 1>what position will you look at? Will will you give

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 1>a hard look at during the White Blue Scrimmage and

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 1>the first preseason game. Thank you for dickin Michael, have

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 1>a great day byeye all right, thank you very much.

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And again a reminder on the Blue White scrimmage, it

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 1>is at four o'clock specific time on Sunday, free admission

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 1>to watch. If you're in southern California, get on out

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 1>here and watch the Cowboys scrimmage on Sunday. And again

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:44.280
<v Speaker 1>that Youth Combine for it kids age six to sixteen

0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:48.719
<v Speaker 1>skills and drills with coaching from former NFL players. What

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 1>specifically are you going to be looking forward during the

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Blue White scrimmage on Sunday. I want to see if

0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 1>these backup quarterbacks can move their team. You know, I

0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:57.759
<v Speaker 1>think that we're going to get kind of with that

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:00.800
<v Speaker 1>what we call the blue period where the veteran guys

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:03.160
<v Speaker 1>go to the side, take off their pads and kind

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 1>of watch and see what's going on. But I'm interested

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 1>to see where this backup quarterback thing is going to go.

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:11.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, I want to see, you know, are the guys,

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:13.800
<v Speaker 1>are the gamers pressure all that we kind of have

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.320
<v Speaker 1>an idea. We've talked about a lot about what Cooper

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Rush springs. You know, Mike White made a couple of gain,

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple of good throws, a couple of bad throws.

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.480
<v Speaker 1>But I'm interested to see this is if you remember,

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:26.320
<v Speaker 1>it was a two minute drill with Dak Prescott that

0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of got him on the on the map with us.

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 1>So maybe one of those guys will have a moment

0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 1>they kind of propels them into giving them that you know,

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 1>that that go that that kind of that momentum that

0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:42.919
<v Speaker 1>they need going into that San Francisco game. I think, well,

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:46.359
<v Speaker 1>first of all, we need to kind of throw out

0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:49.359
<v Speaker 1>a disclaimer on a scrimmage because it's just a blue

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 1>white practice until they get to the end, the end

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:54.400
<v Speaker 1>when the young guys go out there and they actually

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:56.359
<v Speaker 1>play football, tack them on, put them on the ground.

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:58.759
<v Speaker 1>So the rest of it is basically what we've been

0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 1>watching out here, you know what I actually from a

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:05.040
<v Speaker 1>TV perspective and watching it on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and coming out here to practice, you can focus on

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 1>different positions right right, right right better that way, and

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:16.280
<v Speaker 1>from a TV standpoint, it's better than a scrimmage because

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>it gives us an opportunity to focus in on a

0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:22.719
<v Speaker 1>drill that the you know, the linebackers are doing right now,

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:26.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's almost like we pull back the curtain and

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 1>they get to see what we see almost every day.

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:33.279
<v Speaker 1>So we'll just continue what we talked about yesterday. The

0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:35.920
<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle position. Yeah, I gotta see it. And I

0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:37.640
<v Speaker 1>got to see the young guys too. If they have

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.319
<v Speaker 1>some guys that have a little depth, if they want

0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to roll guys in, you can't roll in just to

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.120
<v Speaker 1>roll in. You got to be rolling in some quality.

0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:48.600
<v Speaker 1>And uh, let's see what's what's what's behind and and

0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:53.919
<v Speaker 1>and you know it it's hard to judge those guys

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 1>because what we're looking at right now is is basically

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:59.879
<v Speaker 1>pass rush because they're not tackling, right, So, how well

0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 1>with those guys play if they had to put Zeke

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:05.600
<v Speaker 1>on the ground. Yeah? Yeah. I asked Jason Garrett about

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the tackle rotation yesterday and he kind of gave me

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:11.160
<v Speaker 1>a general answer about, Hey, it's options, but you tried.

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I tried, and and look, I mean he's not if

0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>he has concerns, he's not gonna voice him. And he

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:18.879
<v Speaker 1>kind of spoke in general terms of hey, there's guys

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 1>we have. I asked him about joad Ward, Dayton, Jones.

0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm going down your list, Brian, I mean, Daniel Ross.

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:26.759
<v Speaker 1>There's guys that have an opportunity to show up here

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 1>in camp and the preseason game. Yeah, so go ahead. Yeah,

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 1>it's I remember a blue white scrimmage Bill. I think

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.399
<v Speaker 1>we were in the in the Power of Top maybe

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 1>two years ago, three years ago that that that David

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Irving was in that twenty minute practice period where he

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 1>was making play after play after they couldn't block him,

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and you're sitting there going, wow, that's that's something you know,

0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:50.120
<v Speaker 1>you really haven't seen very much, you know, I mean,

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:53.799
<v Speaker 1>here's the guy. So there is opportunity. There is opportunity. Now,

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:55.960
<v Speaker 1>like Micky said, you got to take advantage of the

0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:59.160
<v Speaker 1>opportunities that you get. Is there somebody that that that

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:02.520
<v Speaker 1>is you know, Cape, there is there a better we

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:06.319
<v Speaker 1>we Is is Ross a better player than we're giving

0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:09.400
<v Speaker 1>him credit for? You know? Is uh Lewis Neil a

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:12.120
<v Speaker 1>better player than we're giving him credit for right now?

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:14.279
<v Speaker 1>But I just remember being up in that tower with you,

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and we kept talking about David Ror making play after

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:20.400
<v Speaker 1>play after play, and so hopefully they get something like that,

0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 1>whether it's defensive tackle, whether it's a cornerback, whether it's

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:27.759
<v Speaker 1>a one of these tight ends where I was going, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 1>so what are you looking for? I'm with Mick on

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:32.719
<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle rotation. But let's see how these tight ends

0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:36.759
<v Speaker 1>perform because they all do things different, they all do

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:39.759
<v Speaker 1>things well in a different way sort of. Uh. You know,

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Blake Jarlin's the guy who can get up the field

0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:45.359
<v Speaker 1>and separate and be a pass catcher for you. Jeff

0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Swain has kind of rounded out his game the last

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:49.400
<v Speaker 1>couple of years. I think he's an underrated pass catcher

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 1>he's probably got the advantage to start right now. And

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:54.239
<v Speaker 1>we haven't seen Schultz the last couple of days because

0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 1>congratulations on absolutely first child, m Enrico. We've seen Rico

0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:01.920
<v Speaker 1>makes him plays here and there in the passing game.

0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 1>But he's told me again he's got to work on

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 1>his blocking. I mean, these guys are gonna get it.

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:07.640
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna throw him out there in the games and

0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:10.239
<v Speaker 1>so you'll see that block and then get ready because

0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:12.880
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be the it's gonna be the bow Scarborough

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:16.919
<v Speaker 1>Show and the you know, the Williams Show and Jackson Show.

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, those those guys are gonna get an opportunity

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:20.879
<v Speaker 1>to carry the football and then you know, and see

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:23.040
<v Speaker 1>if they you know that, I have a feeling that

0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:25.120
<v Speaker 1>last twenty minutes will be a lot about trying to

0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:28.040
<v Speaker 1>be physical, set of tone, See who can tackle, see

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 1>who can block? And if these quarterbacks can make a

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 1>throw or two. You know, I just don't always fascinated

0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:35.320
<v Speaker 1>with young quarterbacks. That's kind of why my You know,

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.479
<v Speaker 1>if you get him an opportunity, are the lights gonna

0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're all the points you guys made of

0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:43.920
<v Speaker 1>positions and receivers. Yeah, absolutely, right, absolutely right on that,

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, And and and Rob with with the tight ends,

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I've noticed they they really haven't backed off from lining

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:54.360
<v Speaker 1>up too tight end formations. They still even though Witton's

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:59.080
<v Speaker 1>not here. But you know, if if Jarwin can be

0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:02.960
<v Speaker 1>what they always hope Escobar could be, right, then the

0:54:03.040 --> 0:54:06.239
<v Speaker 1>two tight end becomes more potent. All right. Here's something though,

0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:09.160
<v Speaker 1>on a Blake Jarwin and we saw it yesterday, Layton

0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Vanderish yanks the ball out. Yes, can you recall anybody

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:20.239
<v Speaker 1>forcing a Jason Witten fumble? I can't, I cannot, I

0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:23.359
<v Speaker 1>cannot that. But it's such a physical game. He'll learn

0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:25.839
<v Speaker 1>and you but but no, I'm not saying so much.

0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:30.920
<v Speaker 1>It just happened to get But that's what that's what

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:34.160
<v Speaker 1>we don't know about these young tight ends is when

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:38.120
<v Speaker 1>they get into a game and you got first teamers

0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:40.640
<v Speaker 1>on the other side, you got Luke Keikley on the

0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:44.320
<v Speaker 1>other side, okay, and he's ripping the ball, ripping the

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:48.279
<v Speaker 1>ball out. Um, that's you don't know until until they

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 1>get out there. They may look great out here in

0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:55.440
<v Speaker 1>shorts and and so forth, and and yeah, looks like

0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 1>getting ready. You're playing against men who was the time

0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:00.840
<v Speaker 1>there was a rookie tight end with the Giance, just

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:02.600
<v Speaker 1>in the last couple of years. I think against the

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys that I don't even remember who it was, Evan Ingram, Yeah, yeah,

0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 1>or maybe the one they got It was probably a while. Yeah,

0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I remember the Cowboys yanking the ball out and he said, yeah.

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:17.759
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, throw it to that tight end.

0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:21.719
<v Speaker 1>You know. But that's what you don't know until you're

0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:24.920
<v Speaker 1>they're actually playing games, you know. And you know, we

0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't lose sight of the wide receivers either, you know.

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:30.840
<v Speaker 1>They they've got to perform. We've seen them in a

0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:33.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of different places. We've seen them in a lot

0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 1>of different drills, different drills, creative drills. Okay, fine, now

0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:40.239
<v Speaker 1>can you take that to the field and produce you know,

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it sounds nice Beasley and Tavon Austin on the outside.

0:55:43.600 --> 0:55:45.920
<v Speaker 1>You have two receivers that are bigger on the inside.

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:48.480
<v Speaker 1>But how's that going to work? Yeah? And so you know,

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:51.719
<v Speaker 1>when I mean, we watch it in practice, will get

0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:55.160
<v Speaker 1>a glimpse of it. I think the preseason games will

0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>be more revealing than anything else, and maybe more so

0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 1>this year. I don't know if they play those guys

0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:03.360
<v Speaker 1>more because they got to see, they got to decipher.

0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 1>But who are you playing him with? Well, that's what

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Yeah, I'm saying that's that's the question. How

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 1>do you really get the full value? You could see?

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:11.759
<v Speaker 1>You could see. I have a feeling you're gonna see

0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of of Schultz, you know, playing and this stuff.

0:56:16.160 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling you're gonna see him in Wells

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:20.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot in that you know so well the second

0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:23.239
<v Speaker 1>half of games for sure. I mean, you know they

0:56:23.360 --> 0:56:25.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of have an idea what they haven't swing. I

0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 1>say that because at least he's been here the longest.

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:30.799
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Darwin does need to play. Jarwin needs

0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:32.360
<v Speaker 1>to get out there and play. And then if it

0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 1>means but you know, Schultz and and Rico Gathers, I've

0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:39.719
<v Speaker 1>almost forgot Rico Gathers there, but those guys all need

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:43.480
<v Speaker 1>We need to see if Rico Gathers can take on

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:46.800
<v Speaker 1>a wide you know, in a game where all of

0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:48.640
<v Speaker 1>a sudden they have to get the ball around the

0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:50.239
<v Speaker 1>corner and he's got to get the he's got to

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<v Speaker 1>set the edge. We need to see if he can

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<v Speaker 1>down block and makes things happen that way. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if he can, if he could be the guy the

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<v Speaker 1>point of attack, because for so many years we he

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<v Speaker 1>was really underappreciative in my opinion. But what James Hannah

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<v Speaker 1>can do? You know Hannah when they were everyone talks

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<v Speaker 1>about right, yeah, Hannah, James Hanna in twenty sixteen when

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<v Speaker 1>they were running the ball, he and Witton. When you

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<v Speaker 1>put you put Smith written and James Hannah on the

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<v Speaker 1>same side, there were guys that were playing on their

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<v Speaker 1>feet getting some movement right there, and that allowed Ezekiel

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the runs that he was able to give.

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<v Speaker 1>So if some if one of these backup guys could

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<v Speaker 1>be similar comparable to James Hannah as a blocker, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a huge get for this team. Schultz

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<v Speaker 1>stands out because of what he did. It's Stanford, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely he is. There's a guy in Will Disley that

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<v Speaker 1>went to the Seahawks that is probably the best blocker.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you get into the mode of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>like Dalton Schultz. He's the guy that's played more in

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<v Speaker 1>line tied end than any of these other guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. I just don't think they can afford to

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<v Speaker 1>go out in the preseason game and say this is

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<v Speaker 1>the first preseason game. Okay, the first teamers ten plays in,

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<v Speaker 1>you're out. Yeah, Well, I think I don't think they

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<v Speaker 1>have that luxury. Well, I think with tight ends. Play

0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:08.040
<v Speaker 1>the tight ends. I mean, which which wide receivers are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to say? Okay, you're good, get out Beasley? Beasley? No,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm playing him? Oh yeah, play to play. Ye

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:19.920
<v Speaker 1>got to play. I think you get played. Terrence is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna They're gonna be careful with him, probably just because

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<v Speaker 1>of coming off the end. He's back first. As long

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<v Speaker 1>as the first team offensive. Yeah, first, well, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about once the second teams are the

0:58:31.680 --> 0:58:34.640
<v Speaker 1>wide receivers. I think they're in. Mickey was going, Mickey's

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<v Speaker 1>going all the six top six whole game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>who are in the second? Who are the second? By

0:58:40.120 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 1>the way, the receivers. Of course, the Cowboys lost Cedric

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson for the season sixth round pick, but they've been

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<v Speaker 1>lying in Thompson up with the first when they first

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<v Speaker 1>three guys, they have Thompson, Yeah, Thompson, Herns, Beasley. Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>All's been out there with the first year and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's time to see a little bit more of

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<v Speaker 1>t will Yep. I thought I gotta, I gotta. I

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<v Speaker 1>got like seven words out of it. Okay, we can't

0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:06.920
<v Speaker 1>shut Mickey up? Yeah, because I got off to a

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<v Speaker 1>slow start. All right, Well you'll get more of Mickey tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we didn't have Mickey's minute. Yeah. See that's a

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