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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and Bill Jones. Another beautiful day for football

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Speaker 1: and Oxendard, California. We are living the American dream. I've

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Brian brought us in. Mickey Spagnola and why

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Speaker 1: I said, right off the top, we are living the

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Speaker 1: American dream. Because just moments ago I saw one of

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Speaker 1: I'm living the American dream. So I think that's the

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Speaker 1: attitude all of us should have today. I thought you

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Speaker 1: were wearing your Oklahoma No, no, no, that's this just

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Speaker 1: came up in the rotation. Yeah it's this. It's this.

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Speaker 1: I did laundry on Monday. We're back around in the rotation. Good,

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Speaker 1: this is number two in the rotations. It's a little

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Speaker 1: large for me, so I have to tuck it in.

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Speaker 1: So working working out, you're doing that, well, it's just

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Speaker 1: too long. Okay. It's like I wearing a dress, so

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Speaker 1: you got to tuck it in instead of what we

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Speaker 1: normally do out here is people have untucked shirts right

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Speaker 1: absolutely out. Nightmare. I don't think my deals working here.

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Speaker 1: Oh you can you hear your head? So I can't hear.

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Speaker 1: Here's what you do. Here's a professional broad already. Okay,

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Speaker 1: do you do that with your all right? I was

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Speaker 1: kind of wait to the break, Mickey, But that's okay.

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Speaker 1: Mine's the American nightmare. And by the way, Mickey has

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Speaker 1: made amends with the leaf blower out here. It's a

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Speaker 1: new one. It's a new one. It's a different different guy.

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Speaker 1: I might have got him fired. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: this guy at least asked. He goes, now, what time

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Speaker 1: do you start? I said nine o'clock. He goes, I'll

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Speaker 1: be done by then. It's like all right. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, the leaf blower affected the Jason Garrett press conference.

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Speaker 1: Was it yesterday? Yeah? I was yesterday yesterday. You want

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Speaker 1: to know if anybody knew the leaf blower? And I

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Speaker 1: looked over at Mickey and the press conference and he

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Speaker 1: was like doing this like nod. Yeah, yeah, he's had

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Speaker 1: his own d leagues with him. As we get the

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Speaker 1: headset corrected here, how is that? Was everybody doing well?

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Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to say, how's everybody doing? Okay, this

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Speaker 1: is practice number six today, how's this team doing out here?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what yesterday. Defensively, the team did very well.

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Speaker 1: I thought that if you were if you were scoring

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Speaker 1: the practice the way the defense came out, and I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of it started with the stuff that

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Speaker 1: they were doing with the two on two, with the

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Speaker 1: defensive backs working against the receivers, you know, and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now you get a couple of stops,

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Speaker 1: you get a couple of nice plays, you knock the

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Speaker 1: ball away. Chris Richard is you know, now the coach

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Speaker 1: is involved. The coaches The coaches like, now he's all

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Speaker 1: over the receivers. And so I've never seen a coach

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Speaker 1: I wrote to some of my notes, it's up on

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com today. I've never seen a coach

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Speaker 1: get after the other like the the offense or the

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Speaker 1: defense the way the challenging. Yeah, he it wasn't like

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Speaker 1: go out and fight those And I can only imagine

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Speaker 1: if Golly does Bright or somebody was here been Oh,

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Speaker 1: that would have been a lot of fun. But there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of energy with the practice, a lot

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Speaker 1: ripping one out there, so you know, interceptions, We've seen

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Speaker 1: kind of all kinds of things from this defense, some good,

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Speaker 1: know what, that's what you need after a day off, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that might have been somewhat what was behind

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Speaker 1: the emotion. But it was good. It's a training camp,

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Speaker 1: entire camp. In practice. You got so many new faces,

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Speaker 1: probably asked the question day one, like who you mentioned Dez?

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Speaker 1: Who replaces Dez's intensity? Yeah, I think it's a coach.

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Speaker 1: I think it's Chris Richard, honestly, And uh, well that's good.

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Speaker 1: I think we're still I think we're already seeing the

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Speaker 1: DB's feed off of what he does. Um, they love

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Speaker 1: him already. Confidence. Yeah, that's something you know. Usually you

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Speaker 1: see a guy like Byron Jones, who's usually pretty you know,

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Speaker 1: the incomplete when he knocks away a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: they were going back and forth. Lance Lenore and Jordan

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Speaker 1: and that's what I'm saying. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you know, Chris Richard's like, you get out of there.

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Speaker 1: You don't run these drills. Somebody else get in there,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, he was like he he wants

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Speaker 1: but that's I think, like, you know, we're all talking

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Speaker 1: about here, the energy level at practice, like Mickey said too,

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Speaker 1: like when they when Mickey you guys were covering the

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Speaker 1: was a lot of going back and forth. There was

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Speaker 1: a lot of competitive So he's gonna let things go.

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Speaker 1: let the physical play. You know. He's not quick to

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Speaker 1: that's something like Rob said, it's good to see actually

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Speaker 1: secretly he's smiling. And how about those days you used

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Speaker 1: to cover like the joint scrimmages with the Raiders and

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Speaker 1: I think you have to have that. Now. I'm not

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Speaker 1: it's guys rallying for each other, you know, that's a

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Speaker 1: good thing. And as Chris Rashard said after practice, it's

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Speaker 1: iron sharpening iron. It's it's your challenging the offense and

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Speaker 1: the and vice versa. The offense challenges the defense, and

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Speaker 1: that's how the whole team gets better. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: by tomorrow will have a good one. Yeah, we'll have

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Speaker 1: one of those firefights, you know, dash fights of francs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, before we get started off, by the way,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk a lot about the defense over

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Speaker 1: the course of the next hour and yesterday's practice. But

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Speaker 1: to remind you the Blue White Scrimmage is on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: There will be appearances and autographs from Rowdy, the official

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Speaker 1: mascot of the Cowboys. There's also a youth combine for

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Speaker 1: make sure you come out on Sunday and really every

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Speaker 1: part of it. But Sunday is the is the annual

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Speaker 1: Blue White Scrimmage. A lot of it will look like

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Speaker 1: a regular practice. They'll have a scrimmage though at the

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Speaker 1: Fort Worth as well. Yeah, and again to reiterate your point, though, Bill,

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Speaker 1: come on out and see because the intensity has you know,

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Speaker 1: through one week, there's a lot of kind of feeling

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Speaker 1: some things out it. And now you know players know

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Speaker 1: this too. You know, you start running out of practices,

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Speaker 1: a game next week, and these games are gonna start

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Speaker 1: who's making that that that rise up? You know, I

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Speaker 1: mentioned Dorian Armstrong in my notes, guys that you know

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Speaker 1: out of here. And it's seventy degrees. That works, it is,

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Speaker 1: but it's kind of hot, man, There wasn't there was

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Speaker 1: You got Christopher Shard out there yelled at people. But

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Speaker 1: from your band's perspective, more often than not, there is

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Speaker 1: very pleasant to watch practice. And uh and in an

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Speaker 1: six o'clock, uh, central time, would you say, though, that

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Speaker 1: the defense won practice yesterday? Absolutely? Yes. I thought that

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Speaker 1: And then the funny thing is the first question, uh

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Speaker 1: this morning, people start asking, oh, so's Dak struggling? And

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Speaker 1: say that either side one practice yesterday, well that means

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Speaker 1: five or more interceptions, force fumbles, and sacks in his career, right,

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Speaker 1: and if you look at Cheeto's resume at the University

425
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Speaker 1: of Colorado and heption sacks, force bumbles, they were they

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Speaker 1: were up there. I was with Brian Dawkins in Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight and actually ninety seventh season, and

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Speaker 1: and if is one of my favorite players I've ever

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Speaker 1: been with, well is Darren Woodson. And what Darren Woodson

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Speaker 1: means the Dallas Cowboys, Brian Dawkins means to the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: And he was a he was a professional. He was

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Speaker 1: he was accountable, he was a great teammate. People looked

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Speaker 1: up to him. I really enjoyed being a part of

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Speaker 1: a staff where he was on it. We didn't have

435
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Speaker 1: a lot of great players, you know, we had, but

436
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Speaker 1: Brian Dawkins was one of those guys. I have always

437
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Speaker 1: admired his his toughness, and you know that there's certain

438
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: players in this league that did things the right way,

439
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: played the right way. Brian Dawkins very deservingly to be

440
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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. But you know, but I'm

441
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Speaker 1: sad to this point. Then it's not Darren Woodson, that's

442
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Speaker 1: just maybe Dawkins getting in. I hope, hope, okay, because

443
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Speaker 1: they both they both had very in my opinion, if

444
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Speaker 1: you look at the type of careers, here's one guy

445
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Speaker 1: who was a Super Bowl, super Bowl winning safety. You know,

446
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Speaker 1: he meant so much to Dallas cow was in Brian

447
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: Dawkins to what he did from Philly. I was just

448
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: hopeful that Darren Woodson would be able to get in

449
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Speaker 1: before Brian Dawkins. But I you know what I have

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Speaker 1: no I have no ill will towards Dawkins getting in

451
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Speaker 1: because I think he was outstanding in his own right

452
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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. It's one of those things. Safety's a position,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Mick, there aren't a lot of Hall

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Speaker 1: of famers from that position that get in, And I think,

455
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Speaker 1: what's what'son certainly deserving. At some point you're gonna have

456
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Speaker 1: Ed Reid coming up eligible and Troy Paulamalu and those guys.

457
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Speaker 1: But man, yeah, you look at what Darren meant and

458
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Speaker 1: what he still means when you think about Look, they're

459
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: still looking for a big time center field free safety

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Speaker 1: to help this team. Has there been a guy since

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Speaker 1: Darren Woodson in two thousand and three that's done it

462
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Speaker 1: for him? And that shows you his value right there.

463
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Speaker 1: If if Brian Dawkins is in the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: then wood He's in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, John

465
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Speaker 1: Lynch has been a finalist I think as well recently.

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Speaker 1: Please I agree. I mean I stayed in facts. No,

467
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Speaker 1: I know, if you if you had me, if you

468
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Speaker 1: asked me to rank them though, of the three of

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Speaker 1: the guys we just mentioned Woodson, Dawkins, Lynch, but then

470
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Speaker 1: you look at the guys, like you said, Ed Reid, Yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: you know, Ed Reid changed the game the way he played,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the free the free safety, the way

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Speaker 1: you know, he was able to roam around and play

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Speaker 1: and coverage and stuff like that. Well, the thing of

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Speaker 1: it with Dawkins is he had those stats and yeah

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Speaker 1: you know, and yeah, uh like tackles, well, no, like

477
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Speaker 1: what I mentioned about the sacks, interceptions, seven interceptions, thirty

478
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Speaker 1: six sports bumbles twenty six got those rings though, you know, yeah,

479
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Speaker 1: and and fifty seven interceptions anything exactly exactly a lot

480
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Speaker 1: of a lot of a lot of mistakes in the

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Speaker 1: National in the Hall of Fame, I think I think,

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Speaker 1: just real quick, I will say this, I think that

483
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Speaker 1: there's guy's like Rick Goslin who was on the committee,

484
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Speaker 1: the veteran Committian stuff. There's a lot of things that

485
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Speaker 1: those guys are having to try and correct. You can't

486
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Speaker 1: take a Hall of Fame away from a guy. But

487
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Speaker 1: I think the guys like Goslin and them are trying

488
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Speaker 1: to do a better job of guys that you're mentioned,

489
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Speaker 1: the Everson Walls of the world, that that people are overlooking.

490
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Speaker 1: That he's not letting that dream die. He didn't let

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Speaker 1: the dream die for Jerry Kramer, you know, I mean

492
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Speaker 1: Jerry Kramer. I mean it was goodness gracious, you know, forever.

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Speaker 1: So so I'm saying Rayfield right, it's another one. He

494
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Speaker 1: didn't let the dream die for Rayfield, right, Or Bob Hayes.

495
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Speaker 1: Here's a guy from him Detroit, Michigan. You know, Rick Goslin,

496
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Speaker 1: and he's fighting for Dallas Cowboy players. But it's very,

497
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Speaker 1: very difficult. It's because you mentioned there's such a great

498
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Speaker 1: class coming up. But he's trying to get these guys,

499
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Speaker 1: these senior members that have been talked about for years

500
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Speaker 1: and years and years. He's trying to bring them to

501
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Speaker 1: the forefront and the biggest problem is to keep going.

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Speaker 1: Here's mc bryan rant the biggest problem with the voters

503
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Speaker 1: of the Hall of Fame, in my opinion, is they

504
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Speaker 1: didn't see a lot of these guys play. We've all

505
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Speaker 1: seen these guys play. We've all seen now, Rob, I

506
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: know you're a younger guy, but we've all in our career,

507
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: in our lives seen some of these veteran guys play,

508
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: and we know what type of player there, and you're like,

509
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Speaker 1: how can he not be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: We read Jerry Kramer's book, Yeah, yeah, that's saying yeah, yeah, see,

511
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Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying, though, those these guys are

512
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Speaker 1: the pillars of the National Football League and so and

513
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Speaker 1: ever since last year was last year, right, wasn't it.

514
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Speaker 1: I don't know? Yeah, And that Walls being that old,

515
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Speaker 1: well he's my age, but that's that's that's but that's

516
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Speaker 1: does have a gray hair. That's the thing about it is, though,

517
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Speaker 1: you do have people in Canton that are willing to

518
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Speaker 1: fight for these guys and not let that dream Mcteingelhoff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's guys that played back in the sixties

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Speaker 1: and the seventies that my favorite football and they center

521
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Speaker 1: from the Minnesota Vikings, and so what happens is you

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't. You don't lose that dream. You

523
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Speaker 1: don't lose that because again, we the voters and this thing. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see. I didn't see mc tingelhall play. I

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Speaker 1: didn't see. You know, we don't have enough of that

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Speaker 1: of guys standing up and or ladies for the other

527
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Speaker 1: thing of the game of football has changed over the

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Speaker 1: years too, and those stats are different now than what

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Speaker 1: they were, and too many people that vote are antal

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Speaker 1: all they look at his stats. There you go. I

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Speaker 1: was wondering where you're going with that. All right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there you go, Ray, and for Worth, you're first up.

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Speaker 1: You're the late off hitter on Talking Cowboys. Hello Ray,

534
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Speaker 1: Hello everyone. Uh. I don't just want to follow up

535
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Speaker 1: on Darren Witson. I think he deserves it, but I

536
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Speaker 1: want to know one is gonna get in a ring

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Speaker 1: of honor because I a writer. They d he's in,

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Speaker 1: He's in during Woodson's in. Okay, I'm sorry because I'm

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Speaker 1: looking on this list on the website now I don't

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Speaker 1: see still in Dallas Coways dot comment. I thought maybe

541
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Speaker 1: you were talking about Everson Walls because he is not

542
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Speaker 1: in there, and he deserved it too, but everybody just

543
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: seeing the catch, I guess, and but okay, my question,

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Speaker 1: I have a question. I've just been a while this

545
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: The theme of this season has been like Dak friendly.

546
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Speaker 1: So now with all the changes, with days going on,

547
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Speaker 1: and I don't want to go into that. Um, I

548
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: think this is a critical term for him because you're

549
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: time's coming when you're gonna have to make a decision

550
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Speaker 1: on the contract and whether or not he's worth franchise money.

551
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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about Aaron Rodgers franchise money because

552
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. I'm thinking more along the lines of at

553
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: least Garoppolo. So I think I think this is a

554
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: critical time. And I know, Mickey you mentioned this team

555
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: has been thirteen and three in such and such, But

556
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: at what time does under Garrett or whoever, does the

557
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: playoffs matter? Because we haven't had much success in the playoffs.

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00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't think Garrett's going anywhere because Jerry alluded to it.

559
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: I think in the opening press conference he's the guy

560
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: that get Jerry to fish Jerry, But at what point

561
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Speaker 1: do we have to take that next step to be

562
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Speaker 1: successful in the playoffs, because it can't always just be

563
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: about the regular season. I am excited though with all

564
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Speaker 1: these changes. The thing I'm most excited to see up

565
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: from a defensive standpoint, is seeing Van Deresh and Lee

566
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Speaker 1: on the field at the same time. Thanks, all right, right,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate it. Um, where do you want to go?

568
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: I mean he said it. You know, this is this

569
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: is Dak's big opportunity. He's eligible for an extension after

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Speaker 1: this season, and Stephen Jones has said it. I mean,

571
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, if they have if he has a great season,

572
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are probably gonna have a great season, and

573
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: they have no problem paying him a core le based

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Speaker 1: on a certain level of performance. And they've they've already

575
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Speaker 1: budgeted that, They've looked down the road. It's certain, you know,

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Speaker 1: cap structure and what they'd have to do to accommodate

577
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Speaker 1: something like that. But you know, yeah, it's a big

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Speaker 1: year for him. It's a huge opportunity for him and

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Speaker 1: the whole teams. Yeah, you're right, it's a big year

580
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Speaker 1: for everybody involved, especially you know, the quarterback, the head coach.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you have a situation where you don't

582
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Speaker 1: have success, you know, they've this front office has shown

583
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Speaker 1: they're willing to make changes. You know, Jason Witten did retire,

584
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Speaker 1: but you know, they got rid of Dez Bryant, They've

585
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Speaker 1: moved on, They've they you know in that and you're thinking, man,

586
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Speaker 1: they might not ever do that. So I do think

587
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: that this front office is willing to make changes if

588
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Speaker 1: things are not successful. You know, My hope is I

589
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: don't want to cover a football team that's not good.

590
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the selfish side of me right now.

591
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Speaker 1: And I don't like to see people lose their job.

592
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Speaker 1: But if if it comes down to performance, then you know,

593
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: we'll see. But there's a lot of pressure and it

594
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Speaker 1: was one of our twenty questions on dallascotways dot Com.

595
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: More pressure on Garrett or on Prescott, you know, and

596
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: I think both everybody kind of win a different direction

597
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: there because Dak's trying to get a deal, Jason Garrett's

598
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: trying to keep his job. I think that's those are

599
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: things that are very motivating for two guys right there.

600
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Speaker 1: And then you're looking at such a young roster, Yeah,

601
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: which makes this season so intriguing how this young roster

602
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: develops and very quickly because they want to win now

603
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: they have to with a young roster. They have to. Yeah, right,

604
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: they have to and uh so uh and then as

605
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: far as Vanderesh and Sean Lee playing side by side,

606
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: we're going to see that. Yeah, we are going to

607
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: see that. Butt're all going to see Jalen Smith playing too.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think that. I don't think you know,

609
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be you know, find a way to get

610
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Speaker 1: those guys on the field, whatever it takes to get

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Speaker 1: you know, Jalen Smith is worked in a way in

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Speaker 1: a manner that I feel like he deserves that. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't. He doesn't deserve just because they drafted

614
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Speaker 1: Layton vandersh nineteenth overall to lose his job. I mean,

615
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: if Layton Vanish is good enough to do it, then

616
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: we've seen some really good things from Jalen Smith out here.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've seen some things coverage wise. They've been

618
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: I didn't think he could do. But oh you can still.

619
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Speaker 1: Oh there, Um, just he just goes. I know, I

620
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Speaker 1: don't know if you could hear me, if I can't

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Speaker 1: hear myself, if I can't, Okay, all right. As a

622
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: matter of fact, he was star b yesterday. Sure I

623
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Speaker 1: had to decide between a Woozier and Jalen Smith. Because

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Speaker 1: I thought he had a really good day, a really

625
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: good day in coverage. Uh, he was, he was mobile, activing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought he had an excellent day. That was the

627
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Speaker 1: best one I saw from him too. By the way, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun if and we've seen it out here. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if Jalen Smith is playing like the college Jalen Smith,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun to watch. If he plays like

631
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Speaker 1: college Jalen Smith, they really stole the guy, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think that I think that you were ways away

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Speaker 1: from that right now. But but it's working, as they

634
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Speaker 1: would say, it's trending in the right direction for him. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's just let's take the take the physical aspect out

636
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Speaker 1: of how he's moving out of it. Right From a

637
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Speaker 1: mental standpoint, basically entering his second year as a middle

638
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Speaker 1: linebacker in this league, what should we expect. I think

639
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: he will see things better. I think there were times

640
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Speaker 1: last year he didn't see and he was in the

641
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Speaker 1: wrong gap like he was. I don't know if he's

642
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Speaker 1: guessing he's over here and the ball's over here. And

643
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Speaker 1: I think when you see things better than you can

644
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Speaker 1: react a lot quicker and be where you're supposed to be.

645
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Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things that we

646
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Speaker 1: have to keep an eye on here because if you

647
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Speaker 1: look at it, I mean we pointed it out, they're

648
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Speaker 1: they're rushing their linebackers a lot more, even against the run.

649
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Speaker 1: It seems like I don't know if this was a

650
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Speaker 1: Chris Roshard influence or what, but that's the most I've

651
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Speaker 1: seen linebackers just going forward all the time. The other

652
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Speaker 1: part of that, Mick is is they readily admit they

653
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Speaker 1: played him more than they wanted to thrown in Yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably out of necessity and as much football as he

655
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Speaker 1: had missed, yeah with the injury. UM. I don't know

656
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Speaker 1: if exposes the right word, but there's more chant times

657
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: where he's he might not see things as well as

658
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Speaker 1: a basically a rookie linebacker on the field, and I

659
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: think with more experience he's I think you see it here.

660
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: I think you see him diagnosed plays out here and

661
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Speaker 1: you're not tackling, but you can see that he's making

662
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: the right decision. Where he's gonna have to improve is

663
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Speaker 1: the coverage aspect, and maybe they're gonna take that away

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Speaker 1: from him and make him a blitzer, and I mean

665
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Speaker 1: that in respect. I don't mean that as a punishment

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Speaker 1: that he can't cover anybody where Mickey's right though, when

667
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Speaker 1: he's reading the stuff, hitting the right gap, scraping the

668
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Speaker 1: right gap, you know, being where he needs to be

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Speaker 1: to make the tackle. That's been really, really good. And

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Speaker 1: but there's some things coverage aspect wise, where he still

671
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: has a little bit of trouble where he, like Mickey,

672
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Speaker 1: he gets distracted. You know, all of a sudden there's

673
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Speaker 1: a crosser and he's like, I'm gonna jump that route.

674
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Speaker 1: But then behind him, though, is Blake Jarwin on a

675
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: post route where he needs or a corner route where

676
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: he needs to sink a little better, and behind him.

677
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Speaker 1: So that's experienced. That that's all experience about how to

678
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: play in coverage. But you know, it's also being aggressive.

679
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Speaker 1: It's also wanting to make a play and he's gonna

680
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Speaker 1: have to. And I think the thing that I worry

681
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Speaker 1: about him most is the coverage aspect, the downhill player,

682
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Speaker 1: the tackler, the running to the football. I don't worry

683
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Speaker 1: about any of that. And the things you like about

684
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Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh and the things you worry about him. You

685
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Speaker 1: can almost flip it, right, Yeah, you can. You can,

686
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: you can flip it. You'd say Layton vanderesh and coverage

687
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: is a much better player than than than than what

688
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: you had with Jalen Smith. But he doesn't get off

689
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: blocks like Jalen Smith does. He doesn't play with his

690
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: hands yet like Jalleenson. Now he could snife through and

691
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: make plays when guys there, you know, don't block him stuff.

692
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Speaker 1: But that's that. You're right, you could flip the two

693
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Speaker 1: and uh and, but you put him together, you'd probably

694
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Speaker 1: have a great player. That's why Rod Marinelli is saying,

695
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: we got three linebackers for two bots and they're all

696
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: gonna play. Are you might have three three spots? That's

697
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: what I'm That's my next question. You don't want to

698
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: put too much on the plate of a young player

699
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: like a Layton vander Esch and his rookie season, even

700
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith going into his third year but second year

701
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: playing Damien Wilson is going into his contract year. Yeah,

702
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: let's let's fast forward for a moment a year from now.

703
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Speaker 1: Could we see a linebacking corps where they are able

704
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: to figure out a way or it's obvious the way

705
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: is there where you could have all three Lee, vander

706
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Speaker 1: esh and Jalen Smith on the field at the same time.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great possible. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: great possibility because to me, you know, when you talk

709
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Speaker 1: about the master plan, Yeah, when you when you talk

710
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: about Damien Wilson, there's still mistakes out there for a

711
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: veteran player. I mean, he run hit factors good, but

712
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: there's still times out there where you say, oh, he

713
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: can't do that. You know, you can't run under that

714
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: block like that. You gotta stay why you know, there's

715
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: stays you watch him and you say, Okay, that's a mistake.

716
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: That's a mistake of veteran guys shouldn't make What I

717
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: what I what I propose is gonna happen is they're

718
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: gonna be willing to live with mistakes from Jalen Smith

719
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: as opposed to mistakes from Damien Wilson. And that's why

720
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna see I think Jalen Smith probably take that job.

721
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Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna say, okay, you know we were

722
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: so here from now you could see that, Yeah, is Lee,

723
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Speaker 1: assuming he's healthy and right, you know, at the will

724
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: right Vander Esh in the middle and Jalen Smith is

725
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: the SAM. Yeah, well they can and they can play

726
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: him in the SAM at the SAM a little differently

727
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: than absolutely doesn't have to line up on the line

728
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, play off the ball, can play off the ball.

729
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: But he's got going and he's also you could in

730
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: the nickel. You could keep him on the field and

731
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: he can rush the passer. Either play when you play

732
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: the Giants and you're in nickel the entire game, who's

733
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: on the field for you at linebacker? We'll see that's now.

734
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: It's now you have to figure out, though, do you

735
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: want to play with Mickey's three man line and have

736
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Speaker 1: him be the you know, or do you want to

737
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: do that or do you want to just or you

738
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: want to keep him on the field and rush for

739
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: him be the fifth rusher? You know that, I mean

740
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: there's I mean that means you'd have to take somebody

741
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: off because you got the nickel player. But man, it's

742
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a difficult thing to have

743
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: to do it. If he becomes such a good rusher,

744
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 1: you immediately have to figure out something that. Okay, who's

745
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: our better cover guy? Vander Esh or Lee and then

746
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: now who's our better rusher? But but would you say

747
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: the reason that they would not implement that now this

748
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: at lates at the start of this season, is because

749
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Speaker 1: you don't want to overload mentally, a vander Esh and

750
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: a Jalen Smith where they're eleven basically one of them,

751
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 1: or are Jalen Smith in this case learning two positions

752
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Speaker 1: and you in the vix I would I would go,

753
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: I would be okay. I think Jalen Smith understands what

754
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: it takes to play mic linebacker. I think the sooner

755
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: you put him along the line, I think is the better. Okay,

756
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm okay to think with watching Vanderish practice,

757
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: his tongue was dragging a little yesterday, you know, I

758
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: mean he was running all I mean, that's he's a

759
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: he's a you know, he's a guy that likes to

760
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: get to the football. He likes to run to the ball.

761
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: He's an athletic guy for a big guy. But he

762
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: was it was kind of like he's playing a lot

763
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: of snaps out there, and I was thinking, Okay, he's

764
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: looking a little you know, but that's good. That's okay.

765
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: In practice, let these guys go out there and struggle

766
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: a little bit. But it didn't like he was struggling mentally.

767
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: You know, usually when you get tired, you struggle mentally.

768
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: He just might have been a tick. So they threw

769
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Speaker 1: a ball over the top of him. Uh and in

770
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Speaker 1: the drill that that Wells caught. David Wells caught and

771
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Speaker 1: if if he wasn't tired or kind of you know,

772
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Speaker 1: war down a little bit. I think he makes that play.

773
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: He jumps up the near the ball just goes right

774
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: over the top of his hands. But you know, he's

775
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: he's got to learn. He's got to learn how to

776
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: play in coverage. He's gotta learn how to play the run.

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00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I have no problem with throwing him out there,

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00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: because I think that both Smith and and uh and

779
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: and and h Vanderish can learn on the go. I

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00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: don't I don't see I don't see mental lapses with

781
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: those guys as players. Now. It might be it might

782
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: be some awareness sometimes with Jalen, because I can say,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're jumping a route guy behind you, you

784
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785
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Speaker 1: no problem with throwing those guys out there and letting

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Speaker 1: five dvs. Yeah, call it TCU. Run that it is

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Speaker 1: a formation that exists. Yeah, I mean it's nicky. Didn't

790
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Speaker 1: just create that, but that they created that is very

791
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Speaker 1: That is TCU. Yeah, we're gonna call at the quarter,

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00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,480
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Speaker 1: do you think? I think he's very good. And I

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00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: think we've already we've seen glimpses already this camp. Right,

843
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: he looks like he's in a regular season. It's difference

844
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: between him being on the field and Tuckle Charlton being

845
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: on the field at the defensive end. Yeah, Tacos fighting

846
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: to his shoulder and to his credit, he's out there

847
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: practice and it's not good for him. Right now, I'll

848
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: say this, how good he was? I I there was

849
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: a there was a pass rush. I don't know if

850
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: Bill you were down at one on one pass rusttro right,

851
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: did you see the rush he had against Lyle Collins

852
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: where Collins blocked a little bit on it? Okay, Collins,

853
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: Collins sets on him. He's coming up the field on

854
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: Lawrences coming to the field, Collins sets on him and

855
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: it really hammers him and it kind of knocks him

856
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: off balance to where he's now kind of reeling and

857
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: and Collins sees it. And Collins is like, like, you know,

858
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: blood in the water, he's going for the kill. So

859
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: he starts after him. Well, Lawrence, that sees what's happening.

860
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: He ducks, He completely ducks, and Collins goes over the

861
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: top of him. And then on the other side here's

862
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: Lawrence comes up and then heads for the quarterback to

863
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: get the sack. That's a matrix stuff, right, I mean

864
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: He's completely off balance and Collins is like, oh, I

865
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: got you. Now I'm gonna get you, and he makes

866
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: this incredible ducking move to get under his hands and

867
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: free himself. He's to get to the ball. It's just

868
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: a tremendous outer. DeMarcus had injury issues early in his career,

869
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: sure did, but you know, and Rob Barnelly, I think

870
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: was talking about Taco Charlton needs to harden his body. Yeah,

871
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: how much of it has just been for DeMarcus Lawrence

872
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: obviously aside from being injury free, but just his body

873
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: becoming an NFL body. And I mean how far has

874
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: he progressed since his rookie season. I think. I think

875
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: what people don't see from him if you're not around him,

876
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: is how strong he is. Yes, I mean this, This

877
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: is not your two hundred and fifty pound line slash

878
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: linebacker defensive end who's all about the pass rush. This

879
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: guy will plays. This guy will play the run, and

880
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: he'll play hard and and and that's I think what's

881
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: impressive because a lot of his sacks aren't like swift moves.

882
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: It's effort because he's fighting inside. He didn't mind coming inside.

883
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: They better be ready for that because he will fight

884
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: you inside. What we saw last year was that relentlessness

885
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: that he had on the field, and you can tell

886
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: just the way he strengthened his body and so forth

887
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: he had. I'm sure he has that same kind of

888
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: relentlessness in the weight room and conditioning and so forth.

889
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: And that's what's made the huge difference in his career.

890
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: And that's something at draft time you don't really know

891
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: about a player, just how hard they're going to work

892
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: at it. He's also added to his arsenal. He's got

893
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: into it. He's got an array of different moves, and

894
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: it goes back to what DeMarcus where he's says, you

895
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: gotta have a lot of different tools in your toolbox.

896
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: And you watch him out here and he's he'll change

897
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: it up on guys, and you watch these one on

898
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: one drills and he's he's at a different level than

899
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: these other day. He's really good at knowing his you know,

900
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: they always say the first axiom of warfares know the enemy.

901
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 1: He knows the enemy, he knows how to attack somebody.

902
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: If if you're a guy that pays a lot about it,

903
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: if you if you're a guy that plays soft, he

904
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: will run you right to the quarterback. I mean last year,

905
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: I mean we did a tail of the tape with

906
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: him broke down that Bill Deer. I think it's how

907
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: you say that the tackle. Yeah, and he's a soft

908
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: setter and one of his sacks was he just said, no,

909
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: you're not good enough. He just took Bill Deer all

910
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: the way to Carson Palmer and like you know, dumped

911
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: him on the ground and then you know, captured Carson Palmer.

912
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: So he has an idea of how to play you.

913
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: He knows that. Okay, if I'm gonna if you're a heavy,

914
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: handy guy, I gotta get rid of your hands. I

915
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: gotta get to your shoulder. If you're a guy that

916
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 1: is a little bit slow on your feet and heavy feet,

917
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: I gotta get to your corner. I gotta dip you

918
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: into to the quarterback. But he's got a great field

919
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: how to end up at the quarterback end position. He's

920
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: not these guys that you see just keeps running up

921
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: the field, ring up Philly, just keep washing him, washing

922
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: and washing him. He's got a plan for how to

923
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: be where here to capture the quarterback. Yeah, I thought

924
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: you were going to say, Carson Nevada, Carson Palmer, all right,

925
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: Philippe in France, beer on Talking Cowboys. I love all

926
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: the shows and it's a great fans can call the

927
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: shows now in Oxnard. Thank you technology, and thank you

928
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: technology man who are pushing the buttons. All right, thank yeah, yeah,

929
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: good job him yeah, Bill, welcome back to the show. Well,

930
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 1: thank you. I got a question because of my own schedule,

931
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: and Judy, I got a hot times as swimming show

932
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: life or even on the replay because of the summer vacations.

933
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: My question is who will each one of you or

934
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: what position will you look at? Will will you give

935
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: a hard look at during the White Blue Scrimmage and

936
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: the first preseason game. Thank you for dickin Michael, have

937
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: a great day byeye all right, thank you very much.

938
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: And again a reminder on the Blue White scrimmage, it

939
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: is at four o'clock specific time on Sunday, free admission

940
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: to watch. If you're in southern California, get on out

941
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: here and watch the Cowboys scrimmage on Sunday. And again

942
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: that Youth Combine for it kids age six to sixteen

943
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: skills and drills with coaching from former NFL players. What

944
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: specifically are you going to be looking forward during the

945
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: Blue White scrimmage on Sunday. I want to see if

946
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: these backup quarterbacks can move their team. You know, I

947
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: think that we're going to get kind of with that

948
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: what we call the blue period where the veteran guys

949
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: go to the side, take off their pads and kind

950
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: of watch and see what's going on. But I'm interested

951
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: to see where this backup quarterback thing is going to go.

952
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: You know, I want to see, you know, are the guys,

953
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: are the gamers pressure all that we kind of have

954
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: an idea. We've talked about a lot about what Cooper

955
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: Rush springs. You know, Mike White made a couple of gain,

956
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: a couple of good throws, a couple of bad throws.

957
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: But I'm interested to see this is if you remember,

958
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: it was a two minute drill with Dak Prescott that

959
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: kind of got him on the on the map with us.

960
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: So maybe one of those guys will have a moment

961
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: they kind of propels them into giving them that you know,

962
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: that that go that that kind of that momentum that

963
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 1: they need going into that San Francisco game. I think, well,

964
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: first of all, we need to kind of throw out

965
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: a disclaimer on a scrimmage because it's just a blue

966
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: white practice until they get to the end, the end

967
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: when the young guys go out there and they actually

968
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: play football, tack them on, put them on the ground.

969
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: So the rest of it is basically what we've been

970
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: watching out here, you know what I actually from a

971
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: TV perspective and watching it on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

972
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: and coming out here to practice, you can focus on

973
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: different positions right right, right right better that way, and

974
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 1: from a TV standpoint, it's better than a scrimmage because

975
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: it gives us an opportunity to focus in on a

976
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: drill that the you know, the linebackers are doing right now,

977
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: and it's almost like we pull back the curtain and

978
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: they get to see what we see almost every day.

979
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: So we'll just continue what we talked about yesterday. The

980
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: defensive tackle position. Yeah, I gotta see it. And I

981
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: got to see the young guys too. If they have

982
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: some guys that have a little depth, if they want

983
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: to roll guys in, you can't roll in just to

984
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: roll in. You got to be rolling in some quality.

985
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: And uh, let's see what's what's what's behind and and

986
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 1: and you know it it's hard to judge those guys

987
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: because what we're looking at right now is is basically

988
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: pass rush because they're not tackling, right, So, how well

989
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: with those guys play if they had to put Zeke

990
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: on the ground. Yeah? Yeah. I asked Jason Garrett about

991
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: the tackle rotation yesterday and he kind of gave me

992
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: a general answer about, Hey, it's options, but you tried.

993
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: I tried, and and look, I mean he's not if

994
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: he has concerns, he's not gonna voice him. And he

995
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: kind of spoke in general terms of hey, there's guys

996
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: we have. I asked him about joad Ward, Dayton, Jones.

997
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm going down your list, Brian, I mean, Daniel Ross.

998
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: There's guys that have an opportunity to show up here

999
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: in camp and the preseason game. Yeah, so go ahead. Yeah,

1000
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: it's I remember a blue white scrimmage Bill. I think

1001
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: we were in the in the Power of Top maybe

1002
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: two years ago, three years ago that that that David

1003
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: Irving was in that twenty minute practice period where he

1004
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: was making play after play after they couldn't block him,

1005
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: and you're sitting there going, wow, that's that's something you know,

1006
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: you really haven't seen very much, you know, I mean,

1007
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: here's the guy. So there is opportunity. There is opportunity. Now,

1008
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: like Micky said, you got to take advantage of the

1009
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: opportunities that you get. Is there somebody that that that

1010
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: is you know, Cape, there is there a better we

1011
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: we Is is Ross a better player than we're giving

1012
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: him credit for? You know? Is uh Lewis Neil a

1013
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: better player than we're giving him credit for right now?

1014
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: But I just remember being up in that tower with you,

1015
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: and we kept talking about David Ror making play after

1016
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: play after play, and so hopefully they get something like that,

1017
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: whether it's defensive tackle, whether it's a cornerback, whether it's

1018
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: a one of these tight ends where I was going, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1019
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: so what are you looking for? I'm with Mick on

1020
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: defensive tackle rotation. But let's see how these tight ends

1021
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: perform because they all do things different, they all do

1022
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: things well in a different way sort of. Uh. You know,

1023
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: Blake Jarlin's the guy who can get up the field

1024
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: and separate and be a pass catcher for you. Jeff

1025
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: Swain has kind of rounded out his game the last

1026
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: couple of years. I think he's an underrated pass catcher

1027
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: he's probably got the advantage to start right now. And

1028
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: we haven't seen Schultz the last couple of days because

1029
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: congratulations on absolutely first child, m Enrico. We've seen Rico

1030
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: makes him plays here and there in the passing game.

1031
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: But he's told me again he's got to work on

1032
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: his blocking. I mean, these guys are gonna get it.

1033
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: They're gonna throw him out there in the games and

1034
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: so you'll see that block and then get ready because

1035
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the it's gonna be the bow Scarborough

1036
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 1: Show and the you know, the Williams Show and Jackson Show.

1037
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean, those those guys are gonna get an opportunity

1038
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: to carry the football and then you know, and see

1039
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: if they you know that, I have a feeling that

1040
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: last twenty minutes will be a lot about trying to

1041
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: be physical, set of tone, See who can tackle, see

1042
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: who can block? And if these quarterbacks can make a

1043
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: throw or two. You know, I just don't always fascinated

1044
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: with young quarterbacks. That's kind of why my You know,

1045
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 1: if you get him an opportunity, are the lights gonna

1046
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, you're all the points you guys made of

1047
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: positions and receivers. Yeah, absolutely, right, absolutely right on that,

1048
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, And and and Rob with with the tight ends,

1049
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: I've noticed they they really haven't backed off from lining

1050
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: up too tight end formations. They still even though Witton's

1051
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Speaker 1: not here. But you know, if if Jarwin can be

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Speaker 1: what they always hope Escobar could be, right, then the

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00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: two tight end becomes more potent. All right. Here's something though,

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00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: on a Blake Jarwin and we saw it yesterday, Layton

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00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: Vanderish yanks the ball out. Yes, can you recall anybody

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00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: forcing a Jason Witten fumble? I can't, I cannot, I

1057
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: cannot that. But it's such a physical game. He'll learn

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00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: and you but but no, I'm not saying so much.

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00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: It just happened to get But that's what that's what

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00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: we don't know about these young tight ends is when

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Speaker 1: they get into a game and you got first teamers

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00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: on the other side, you got Luke Keikley on the

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00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: other side, okay, and he's ripping the ball, ripping the

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Speaker 1: ball out. Um, that's you don't know until until they

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00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: get out there. They may look great out here in

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00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: shorts and and so forth, and and yeah, looks like

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00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: getting ready. You're playing against men who was the time

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Speaker 1: there was a rookie tight end with the Giance, just

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Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. I think against the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys that I don't even remember who it was, Evan Ingram, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: or maybe the one they got It was probably a while. Yeah,

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00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: I remember the Cowboys yanking the ball out and he said, yeah.

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00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, throw it to that tight end.

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Speaker 1: You know. But that's what you don't know until you're

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00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: they're actually playing games, you know. And you know, we

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00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't lose sight of the wide receivers either, you know.

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00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: They they've got to perform. We've seen them in a

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00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: lot of different places. We've seen them in a lot

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00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: of different drills, different drills, creative drills. Okay, fine, now

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Speaker 1: can you take that to the field and produce you know,

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00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: it sounds nice Beasley and Tavon Austin on the outside.

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00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: You have two receivers that are bigger on the inside.

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Speaker 1: But how's that going to work? Yeah? And so you know,

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00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: when I mean, we watch it in practice, will get

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00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: a glimpse of it. I think the preseason games will

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00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: be more revealing than anything else, and maybe more so

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00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: this year. I don't know if they play those guys

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00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: more because they got to see, they got to decipher.

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00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: But who are you playing him with? Well, that's what

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00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, I'm saying that's that's the question. How

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00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: do you really get the full value? You could see?

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00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: You could see. I have a feeling you're gonna see

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00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: a lot of of Schultz, you know, playing and this stuff.

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00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: I have a feeling you're gonna see him in Wells

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00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: a lot in that you know so well the second

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00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: half of games for sure. I mean, you know they

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00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: kind of have an idea what they haven't swing. I

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00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: say that because at least he's been here the longest.

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00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: But you know, Darwin does need to play. Jarwin needs

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Speaker 1: to get out there and play. And then if it

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Speaker 1: means but you know, Schultz and and Rico Gathers, I've

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Speaker 1: almost forgot Rico Gathers there, but those guys all need

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00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: We need to see if Rico Gathers can take on

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Speaker 1: a wide you know, in a game where all of

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00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: a sudden they have to get the ball around the

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00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: corner and he's got to get the he's got to

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00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: set the edge. We need to see if he can

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00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: down block and makes things happen that way. You know,

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Speaker 1: if he can, if he could be the guy the

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Speaker 1: point of attack, because for so many years we he

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00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: was really underappreciative in my opinion. But what James Hannah

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Speaker 1: can do? You know Hannah when they were everyone talks

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Speaker 1: about right, yeah, Hannah, James Hanna in twenty sixteen when

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Speaker 1: they were running the ball, he and Witton. When you

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Speaker 1: put you put Smith written and James Hannah on the

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Speaker 1: same side, there were guys that were playing on their

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Speaker 1: feet getting some movement right there, and that allowed Ezekiel

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Speaker 1: a lot of the runs that he was able to give.

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Speaker 1: So if some if one of these backup guys could

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Speaker 1: be similar comparable to James Hannah as a blocker, boy,

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Speaker 1: that would be a huge get for this team. Schultz

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00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: stands out because of what he did. It's Stanford, Yes,

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Speaker 1: absolutely he is. There's a guy in Will Disley that

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Speaker 1: went to the Seahawks that is probably the best blocker.

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Speaker 1: And then you get into the mode of the guys

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Speaker 1: like Dalton Schultz. He's the guy that's played more in

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Speaker 1: line tied end than any of these other guys in

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Speaker 1: the draft. I just don't think they can afford to

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Speaker 1: go out in the preseason game and say this is

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Speaker 1: the first preseason game. Okay, the first teamers ten plays in,

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Speaker 1: you're out. Yeah, Well, I think I don't think they

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Speaker 1: have that luxury. Well, I think with tight ends. Play

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00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: the tight ends. I mean, which which wide receivers are

1134
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: you going to say? Okay, you're good, get out Beasley? Beasley? No,

1135
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: maybe I'm playing him? Oh yeah, play to play. Ye

1136
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: got to play. I think you get played. Terrence is

1137
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna be careful with him, probably just because

1138
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: of coming off the end. He's back first. As long

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Speaker 1: as the first team offensive. Yeah, first, well, I thought

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Speaker 1: you were talking about once the second teams are the

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00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers. I think they're in. Mickey was going, Mickey's

1142
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: going all the six top six whole game. I mean,

1143
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: who are in the second? Who are the second? By

1144
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: the way, the receivers. Of course, the Cowboys lost Cedric

1145
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: Wilson for the season sixth round pick, but they've been

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00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 1: lying in Thompson up with the first when they first

1147
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: three guys, they have Thompson, Yeah, Thompson, Herns, Beasley. Yea.

1148
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Speaker 1: All's been out there with the first year and I

1149
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: think it's time to see a little bit more of

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Speaker 1: t will Yep. I thought I gotta, I gotta. I

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00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: got like seven words out of it. Okay, we can't

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00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: shut Mickey up? Yeah, because I got off to a

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Speaker 1: slow start. All right, Well you'll get more of Mickey tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we didn't have Mickey's minute. Yeah. See that's a

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Speaker 1: shame the break He's next, see it, am all. This

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