1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news, single best Idea and 2 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: my Valentine gift from the team was a spectacular set 3 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: of conversations. Today we have a new thing with our 4 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: calendar and the timing and all the good messages from 5 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: our wonderful sponsors, where we have a very long what 6 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: we call a block to begin off each hour. We 7 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: had an hour strong with Katain Kaminsky of Alpha Simplex, 8 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: brilliant on trend research. Another good hour with Lindsey Piegsa 9 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: of stef O, my Economist of the Year last year. 10 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Doctor Piegsa has a stunning call, an outlier call on 11 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: sub two percent real GDP out there with finally a 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: diminished inflash and she gets nominal GDP top line animal 13 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: spirit to the low four percent even under four percent region. 14 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: I can't convey on Valentine's Day what a lonely call 15 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: that is. But we were so lucky to start the 16 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: show today with Edward Yard Denny. He is iconic, your 17 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: Denny Research always in fevor to those of us older 18 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: from CJ. Lawrence. He has called this the Roaring twenties. 19 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: People are saying, yeah, sure it's out there somewhere. Ed 20 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: Yard Denny says, on this Valentine's Day, the roaring twenties 21 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: is now, you know. 22 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: Like when you go over to Grandma's house and it's 23 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: a long drive and the kids are in the back 24 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: asking are we there yet? I think we're there. In 25 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: terms of the so called nirvana norm for the economy, 26 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: the dual mandate has been accomplished. We've got the unemployment 27 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: rate at four percent, we've got real GDP rising up 28 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: around three percent, and we got the inflation rate not 29 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: quite a two percent, but some somewhere around two and 30 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: a half to three percent. And so the Fed has 31 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: accomplished what it wants to do, which leads me to 32 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: conclude that there's really no reason for the Fed to 33 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: lower interest rates anymore. Indeed, I don't really think that 34 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: there was much reason for them to lower it by 35 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: one hundred basis points. And my friend, the Friends of 36 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: the bond, Vigelan, you seem to agree with me, because 37 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: the bonios rose one hundred basis points. Is the FED 38 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: lowered the Fed funds rate by one hundred basis points, near. 39 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: All time highs ed Yard Denny and his Bullmarket to review. 40 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: Yard Denny and the Great Technician rail fan, Kompora, a 41 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: few others as well, calling for a bull market October, 42 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: and I can't believe him saying this over two years ago, 43 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and we make note of Benjamin Laidler 44 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: and then at HSBC and now in London, ben Laidler 45 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: really calling a bullmarket on Christmas Eve of two thousand 46 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: and eighteen, which is forever ago. Whatever it is, it's 47 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: a bullmarket. And we think Edyard Denny for that perspective. 48 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: Of course, so much going on in internet national economics 49 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: wrapped around tariffs and reciprocity, and your Denny on the tariffs. 50 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: I'm very happy that they're using the word reciprocal rather 51 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: than retaliatory. Retaliatory is what the smooth Holly tariff was. 52 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 2: In June of nineteen thirty, we raised our tariffs without 53 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: any concerns about the impact in other countries, and other 54 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: countries retaliated and we had a world depression. And then 55 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: to get out of that, we passed the Congress passed 56 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: the Reciprocal Tariff Act, which basically the basic theme of 57 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: that was, please take this power out of our hands. 58 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: We're too dangerous with tariffs. Let the president do it well. 59 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: You know, the president's doing it again right now. And 60 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: I think the fact that they're calling it reciprocal, and 61 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: the President said it yesterday, said look, we're just going 62 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: to be fair and we're going to match their tariffs. 63 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: But if they want to talk about it, lower it, 64 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: we'll do that. So I think is all going to 65 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: lead to lower tariffs, not higher tariffs. When all of 66 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: a sudden done. 67 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Ed Yar Dunny, there were a constructive thought on what 68 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: we're all focused on. The news flow absolutely extraordinary on 69 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: your commute on Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, Good Morning ninety 70 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: nine one FM in Washington, up to ninety two nine 71 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: FM in Boston. In our flagship station, Bloomberg eleven three 72 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: to zero in New York. We're on YouTube and on 73 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: YouTube podcasts. This is a single best idea.