1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. A lot has 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: gone on for the Ravens over President's Day weekend, and 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Garrett and I are here to break it all down 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: for you. Garrett, let's start with the great news that 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: the Ravens re signed or gave a contract extension to 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Nelson Agilore for one year, bringing back the veteran wide receiver. 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Not surprising update, but what was your take from that news? 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: I mean I think that whenever you guys are poison 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 3: hit free agency, there's no guarantees and we're gonna get 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 3: to that in a second, and so getting a deal 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: done with Aguilar I think was a really good move 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 3: for this team. I think Agilar is somebody who provides 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 3: valuable depth. I think when his number was called last year, 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: he rose to the occasion most of the time and 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: delivered when the Ravens needed him in some key moments. 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: I think that he's a proven vet knows what it 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: takes to win. I just liked what the Ravens got 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: from him. I thought he was a good fit culture wise, 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: chemistry wise. In the locker, players liked him. Though he's 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: a respected player. I think that he adds something to 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 3: this receiving corps. He's got, you know, great speed and 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: the ability to change how defenses approached this offense. And 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: you know, there's there's questions about this receiving corps again, 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: about potential changes that they could go through over the 26 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: course of this offseason. Odell Beckham Junior's future is very 27 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 3: much up in the air in terms of whether he's 28 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: back next year. But bringing back Aguilar I think gives 29 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: you a proven peace and at a good cost. I mean, 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: this isn't like it's a massive contract for him, So 31 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: I thought it made sense. I think he enjoyed his 32 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: time here, The Ravens liked having him here. This was 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: just a move that in my mind made a lot 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: of sense. Sen It's good to see the Ravens get 35 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: that deal done. 36 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean really, last year the Ravens overhauled their 37 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver corps. This year, it wasn't going to take 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: as much work, but they still needed They had three 39 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: unrestricted free agents and still have a couple in Odell 40 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: Beckham Junior Devin Duverne, and so that was it was 41 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: more of a question I think of depth and could 42 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: they still add had a high draft pick wide receiver, 43 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: certainly they could, but with Zay Flowers and Rasha Bateman, 44 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: I think you have a really good one two combo there. 45 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: But but you need a depth and I think Nelson 46 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: Aguilar was a really good kind of third fourth wide 47 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: receiver for this team last year. And another thing that 48 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: I think has overlooked a little bit is how much 49 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: he played out of the slot. He took about sixty 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: percent of his snaps out of the slot last year, 51 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: the highest percentage of Annie Ravens wide receiver, and that 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: was really big for kind of freeing up Zay Flowers 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: to primarily play outside. And Zay still took you know, 54 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: thirty some percent out of the slot, but he was 55 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: he was primarily an outside wide receiver, and that puts 56 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: him more in space out on the edges where he 57 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: can make guys miss. He's not going through heavy traffic. 58 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: Nelson Aguiler was a pretty good darn slot receiver. Some 59 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: of the you know, his ability to kind of stretch 60 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: the field with his speed vertically made some tough catches 61 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: over the middle. I mean, I'm thinking about the one 62 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: against the Bengals. You know, tip ball and he catches 63 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: that one, flips into the end zone. You know, I 64 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: just think that from an ex's and o's standpoint, it 65 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. And also from kind of 66 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: the intangibles. I thought his leadership, you know, all season long, 67 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: I just really liked his mentality. The first time I 68 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: met the guy, I really liked his mentality. And and 69 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, just the way he came in talking about 70 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: what it takes to win a Super Bowl. Here's a 71 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: guy who won it once before at the Philadelphia Eagles 72 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: and knew the work that needs to put put in. 73 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 1: And you have a young wide receiver corps, like I said, 74 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: Rashaan Baitman's a Flowers. Those are still young guys, and 75 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: if Odell Beckham doesn't come back, it gets even younger. 76 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: And I like having the veteran in there, Nelson Aguiler, 77 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: who I think it has been a good influence on 78 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: those guys. 79 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he's not being he's not getting resigned to 80 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: be the number one wide receiver. You know, he's going 81 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: right now. He probably be the three, you know, could 82 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: be end up being the four. But I think that's 83 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: a great sweet spot for him. I think that like 84 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: in that role, he can come up with some big plays, 85 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: just like he did this year. And then from a 86 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: depth standpoint, if you deal with any injuries to your 87 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: top two, Aguilar's got the ability to step in there 88 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: and start a game and play well and you can 89 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: count on him. I just think that this was a 90 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: move that made made a lot of sense, again not 91 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 3: to break the bank kind of a deal, and I 92 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: think that the Ravens right right player, right price. He 93 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: liked being here, The Ravens liked having him. Everyone's happy, right, Okay, 94 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: that's good. Let's just go ahead and get this deal done. 95 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: We want to have you here. And I think that 96 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 3: it's a good It was a good move to get 97 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 3: done before that deadline. 98 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Now the flip side of that is the 99 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: Ravens didn't get deals done with some of the or 100 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: other now pending now pending free agents, right, and so 101 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Monday at four pm was the deadline to get extensions, 102 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: to reach extensions with players who had void years in 103 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: their contracts, and you know, Nelson Agloor was one of those. 104 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: So the Ravens would have carried a dead cap hit 105 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: had they not brought Nelson Agloor back of one point 106 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: six y six eight million dollars. According to Brian McFarland 107 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: of Russell Street Report. Who again, Brian gets a lot 108 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: of credit these days, and deservedly so. He does a 109 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: lot of great work on salary cap front. Though some 110 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: of the other players who had void years in their deals, 111 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler would be high on that list. He had 112 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: a four point two six eight million dollar dead cap 113 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: hit and then Gus Edwards Rocky Scene or two others, 114 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: so uh and I'm sorry, and. 115 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: Geno Stone and Gino Stone yep, exactly. 116 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: So Gino Stone now his his cap hit is six 117 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: hundred k. His dead cap hit Rocky Scene one point six, 118 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: Gus one point eight four, and like I said, Zeitler 119 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: four point basically three. And so by not reaching deals 120 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: with those four guys, the Ravens are now carying about 121 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: eight point three million dollars in dead cap space on 122 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four salary cap. So I think there 123 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: was a fair amount of expectation that the Ravens would 124 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: probably try to re sign Kevin Zeitler. It was clear 125 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: that he wanted to be back. I think a lot 126 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: of people thought that was gonna probably happen. You know, 127 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: he's coming off a Pro Bowl season, he had the 128 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: second highest Pro Football Focus pass blocking grade. So, Garrett, 129 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: what was your take. Were you surprised? What was your 130 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: take on not seeing Kevin Zeitler resigned? 131 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: Well, based on what Zeitler said at the end of 132 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: the season, it certainly sounded like he was a guy 133 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: who wanted to come back and kind of expected to 134 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: come back. And and just to provide a touch more context, 135 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: this deadline doesn't officially end the time in Baltimore for 136 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 3: end of the any of these players. The Ravens could 137 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: technically still resign any of them. However, if you do that, 138 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 3: you got to pay the dead cap and the new contract, 139 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: so it's kind of an unofficial deadline. You would have 140 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: You would think that if they were to resign any 141 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: of these guys, they would have gotten done before this deadline. 142 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: So you're not paying twice. 143 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: But I would say that for for Zeitler in particular, 144 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: but I mean Geno Stone, if if you pay another 145 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: six hundred k, you know, he tests the market and 146 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: then ultimately comes back to the Ravens. Okay, you're paying 147 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: another six hundred k in debt money. Yeah, you know, 148 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 1: not at the end of the world. And I also 149 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: wonder like, could that be built into the deal, basically 150 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: the four point two that Zeitler's getting, Like, could that 151 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: basically be subtracted from whatever his year one salary would be. 152 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: I think you have to you have to pay that money. 153 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: I mean, yes, I guess you could structure that, right, you. 154 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: Have to pay that money, but basically structure that deal 155 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: so that money basically gets put on this year's cap, 156 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: like he would have a lower cap hit in year 157 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: one and maybe year two. And you're saying, well, you're 158 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: also getting that four point two from right, Yeah, I 159 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: don't know. 160 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: You could try to backload it, but I think that 161 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: you know, so, in terms of Zeitler, if we're operating 162 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: under the assumption, which I think a lot of people 163 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: are right now, a lot of a lot of folks 164 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: in the media basically viewing it as not getting the 165 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: deal done by this deadline as an indication that he's 166 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: not going to be back. 167 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: And I think that. 168 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: That is relatively surprising in the sense that it's a 169 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: respected player who indicated that he wanted to be back, 170 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: played at a high level this year, made the Pro Bowl. 171 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: But you know, the Ravens are tied against a salary 172 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: cap they have to make hard decisions, and I think 173 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: that this offensive line is an area that is definitely 174 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: going to be retooled this offseason. I think, you, to 175 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: be honest, I think you kind of have Tyler Linderbaum 176 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: as a sure thing as your starting center, and then 177 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 3: you have a lot of questions around him. Kevin Zeitler 178 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: is now going to be a free agent, John Simpson 179 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: is going to be a free agent. Ronnie Stanley and 180 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 3: Morgan Moses both dealt with injuries this year, and our 181 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: veteran players, you know, who are coming off those injuries, 182 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: and Ronnie in particular has a huge cap number, huge 183 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: salary that hit this year. 184 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: So I just think there's a lot of questions. 185 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: Eric the Costa talked at the end of season press 186 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: conference about how the Ravens are going to invest in 187 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: that offensive line. They put a lot into it. They 188 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: believe that that's really a priority for this team. And so, 189 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 3: you know, when he said that at that press conference, 190 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: to me, it sounded similar to what he said a 191 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: year ago and talking about the receiver position, how they're 192 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: going to retool that group. 193 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 2: I just felt that. 194 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: Same way, and so I think that that's going to 195 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: be a focus for this team during the off season. 196 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: Zeitler still a really good player, but if they feel like, 197 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: you know, they've got some options internally, if they feel 198 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 3: like they could go out either in the draft or 199 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: free agency and add to this group at a at 200 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: a better price point, you know, that's that's all part 201 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: of the consideration. And then the last thing too, what 202 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 3: we don't know is, you know, as much as Zeitler indicated, 203 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: you know, I want to be back, you know, he 204 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: wants to get max value for his content for himself 205 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: as well, and so we don't know what kind of 206 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: deal he was looking for coming off this Pro Bowl season. 207 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a guy who's in the latter 208 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: stages of his career. This is you know, potentially one 209 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: of his last times to hit the open market to 210 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: see what the market holds for him, and so you know, 211 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: he may be looking to really maximize you know, a 212 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 3: good season and a good three year run with the 213 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: Ravens into a nice deal which is probably one of 214 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: the last deals potentially that'll get, depending how long it is. 215 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, you know, sometimes you have to bet 216 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: on younger players that you already have internally. Ravens really 217 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: pride themselves on developing offensive linemen under Joe Deeli Sandris, 218 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: and they have some young developmental players certainly that they 219 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: can plug in at guard. Now, I think some people 220 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: were thinking, well, you're gonna have an opening. Most likely 221 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: John Simpson is a pending free agent. You know, they 222 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: could resign him before he hits the open market. But 223 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: as of now, you have a question market left guard. 224 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: And if it wasn't if it's not John Simpson, then 225 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: I think the conventional thought is, well, it could be 226 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: one of three guys between benk Cleveland, Andrew Vorhees and 227 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: Sala right Sala being the sixth rounder who we were 228 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: all really buzzing about last offseason. And now you look 229 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: at that and say, well, you know, maybe two of 230 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: those three guys, are you know those three guys plug 231 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: in both guard spots potentially. Ben Cleveland's primarily been a 232 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: right guard. By the way, the Ravens have not shown 233 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: a whole lot of interest in putting Ben Cleveland at 234 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: left guard. We were all expecting to get a lot 235 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: of snaps there last summer and he just didn't. Right 236 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: And like when he's played right guard, I think Ben 237 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: Cleveland's played reasonably well in games, and so they might 238 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: be looking at him and saying, hey, is this our 239 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: next Ben Powers right going into a year four and 240 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: I think it's a year would be fear four for him, 241 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe he's ready. You know, this is 242 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: a stout guy, kind of in a Zeitler mold physically 243 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: at least, and good run blocker. Maybe they're ready to 244 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: see what he looks like at right guard and then 245 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: at left guard. Voor He's is a prospect. I think 246 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: that has They were really excited to kind of stash 247 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: him last year as a seventh round pick, trader back 248 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: in to get him, and you have solid competing there. 249 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: And that's not to rule out that, hey, maybe if 250 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: it's not working, you bring in a veteran guard or whatnot. 251 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: Like I just wouldn't rule out the possibility of maybe 252 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: they have internal options and they're gonna go cheaper here. 253 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: And and to your point, I think it also does 254 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: speak to I think they're ready to kind of turn 255 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: a new page a little bit on the offensive line, 256 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: at least in the starters. Like I think this is 257 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: kind of an indication they're ready, they're ready to to 258 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: to kind of rehab this whole thing, and uh, and 259 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: they want to get better running the ball. That that's 260 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: something that I think was overlooked a little bit down 261 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: the second half of the season in particular, and especially 262 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: once they lost Keaton Mitchell. I think that you didn't 263 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: really see a run game that was super efficient outside 264 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: of Lamar Jackson running the ball. And I think that 265 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: they want to get better in that regard, and that 266 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: starts with some some better run blockers too. 267 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Andrew Vorhees is an interesting one. I think that 268 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: most people, obviously, you know, understandably so just kind of 269 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 3: forget about him. The Ravens signed draft to him last year, 270 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: they traded back into the draft just to refresher you know, 271 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: we're we're all basically right in the story. The Ravens 272 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: did not make any draft day trades last year. You know, 273 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: we're of there tweeting Daniel Jeremiah time to eat your 274 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: piece of paper on the set, because he told us 275 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: on the podcast that the Ravens were definitely gonna make 276 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: a trade. And Eric Takasa is just up there grinning 277 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: in the draft room as all that's playing out, and 278 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 3: the Ravens trade back into the draft, get Vorhees who 279 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: at the combine a year ago towards ACL and then 280 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: missed the entire season. But this was a guy that, 281 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: you know, could have been a Day two pick. How 282 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: that injury not happened, and so the Ravens get somebody 283 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: who they felt like was a really quality player. He's 284 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: been working behind the scenes. I mean, this is a 285 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: guy that you know, we've seen him here every day, 286 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: putting in work over the course of the last year. 287 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: And now he's gonna get a chance to you know, 288 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: see how he looks in over the course of the 289 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: off season and of course training camp. 290 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: But he's got a shot. 291 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: You know, this was a this was a this is 292 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: a good prospect before that injury and then Sala I 293 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: think that, like that's the thing that's so crazy. It's 294 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: like going into training camp and even going back to 295 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: like the off season after the draft, during those offseason practices, 296 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: it was like we were all talking about sla, all 297 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: talking about solid man. 298 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: This guy could be. 299 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: What a home run it would be if to gets 300 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: the starting left guard in the sixth round, and then 301 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 3: John Simpson just beat him out. But like, this was 302 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: a guy who he's big, he's powerful, he is you know, 303 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: I think he grew a lot over the course of 304 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: the season, and he had basically a red shirt year 305 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 3: to develop. Was pretty much a healthy scratch all year, 306 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: but had that year to develop. And so I think 307 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: it's a good point that the Ravens may have the 308 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: internal options. And I also would not rule out from 309 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: a free agency standpoint, going and finding like targeted guys, 310 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: right player, right price, like a Kevin Zeitler or a 311 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: Morgan Moses, Like who's the Morgan Moses or Kevin Zeitler 312 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: of this year's free agency. Neither of those guys got 313 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: like massive deals. They didn't get like the deal that 314 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: Ben Powers got in Denver, for example. But who are 315 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: those guys this offseason? And the Ravens could go out 316 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: there and try to get them. And then I also 317 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: think they are absolutely going to draft probably multiple offensive 318 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: linemen over the course of this draft. 319 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: It's supposedly a very rich offensive lineman class, particularly a tackle. 320 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: There's going to be a lot of tackles that come 321 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: off in the first round, and so I think it's 322 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of time. You know, the Ravens had of 323 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: veteran offensive line and that comes with advantages, right those 324 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: guys have played a lot of snaps in the NFL, 325 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: and I think that they're viewing this as a chance 326 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: to once again, like you said, they could still get 327 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: somebody in free agency, but kind of rebuild this line 328 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: like they did the wide receiver room. 329 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally. 330 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: All right, So we're gonna take a quick break, but 331 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: when we come back, we'll dive into conversation around the 332 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: other guy. So the Ravens did not re sign before 333 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: this deadline. You're listening to the last podcast we're coming 334 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: to you from the Sea Geek Studio. We want to 335 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: give a shout out to our friends at Draft Kings Sportsbook, 336 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: which is an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens. 337 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: They've got an offer running right now that you don't 338 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: want to miss. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app today use 339 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: the promo code flock. If you're a new user, you 340 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: can get a deposit bonus up to one thousand dollars. Again, 341 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: the promo code is flock. 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So working our way through that list, I 348 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: think with Rock, you know, quickly, I think this was 349 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: the guy who the Ravens, you know, at the time 350 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: signed and I think all of us thought he was 351 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: gonna be the starting quarnerback opposite of Marlon Humphrey. And 352 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: I think a few things happened. One Rock got hurt 353 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: in training camp. The biggest thing is that Brandon Stevens 354 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: just ended up being so good, Like Brandon Stevens stepped 355 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: into that role, never lost it, and then played at 356 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: a really high level, so much so that we're having 357 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: conversations about whether Brandon Stevens could get a contract extension 358 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: going into his four season before free agency even opens, 359 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: you know, with a year to go. So I think 360 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: that and Ronald Darby, and Ronald Darby played well, yeah, 361 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: so that that was the other piece of the puzzle. 362 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, even when Marlon was out than Ronald Darby. 363 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: Step yeah, totally. 364 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: So I think that's basically, you know, kind of that's itsua. 365 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: Gus Edwards, you know, is an interesting one. You know, 366 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: this is a guy that's been a really productive player 367 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: for the Ravens over the course of his career. Him 368 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 3: and Lamar, you know, they they came in together and 369 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: they've been they've been the guys carrying the way in 370 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 3: the backfield for this team in a lot of ways. 371 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 3: And you know, it looks like the Ravens are probably 372 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: going in a different direction again, not one hundred percent so, 373 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: but likely going in a different direction at running back. 374 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 3: And you know RG three and others are already starting 375 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 3: the conversation about Derrick Henry as a possible target and 376 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 3: free agency. Who knows what ends up happening on that front. 377 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: But you know, I could see the Ravens if they 378 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 3: feel like they could find the right back at the 379 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: right price in free agency, I could see them trying 380 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: to bring in, you know, a quality back in this 381 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 3: free agency cycle. 382 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, Gus Edwards has been a really 383 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: good player for the Ravens. I have a lot of 384 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: respect for Gus. The Gus Bus. I mean, I don't 385 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: know how many times A tweeted the flying bus gift, 386 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: but it's been a lot right, and so he's been 387 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: a really great player. But there's no denying the fact 388 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 1: that you know, this year he wasn't as efficient as 389 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: previous years. You know, he averaged four point one yards 390 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: per carry this season. His previous four seasons in which 391 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: he was healthy, he averaged five or above. Right, So 392 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: that's almost a full yard decrease, which is pretty substantial 393 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: for a running back. And so yeah, it looks like 394 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: the Ravens are ready to kind of move in ato 395 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: other direction. There were a lot of rumors around last 396 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: year's trade deadline about the Ravens being interested in adding 397 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: and running back Derrick Henry being at the top of 398 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: that list. To me, that one if Derrick Henry can 399 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: come in at the right price, and I don't know 400 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: what that is because the running back market is so 401 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: hard to judge, Like we talked about previously, I feel 402 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: like his market is not going to be that crazy. 403 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: You know, this is not a guy in his twenties, 404 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: his mid twenties anymore. And so if that's the right price, 405 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: I think that there's some real legitimacy to that possibility. 406 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens want to upgrade it running back. 407 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: Like I said, earlier. I just don't know how much 408 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: confidence the Ravens really had in their running game down 409 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: the stretch. They didn't give us a whole lot of 410 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: carries down the stretch. Justic Zill caught a lot of 411 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: balls on the backfield and kind of took over the 412 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: number one role. But you know, it was kind of 413 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. And then Keith Mitchell if he hadn't gotten hurt, 414 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: could have been that guy. But he got hurt. And 415 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: so I think the Ravens are in a position where, 416 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: because of injuries, primarily to JK. Dobbins, they just haven't 417 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: had that really explosive, game changing running back until Keaton 418 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: Mitchell went off. 419 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't had the home run threat. 420 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: Well, not even just that, I mean even just like 421 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: the one hundred yard a game guy consistently. I mean 422 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: Dobbins when he came back the second half of last 423 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: year kind of was that guy. That he got hurt again. 424 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: They were hoping he would roll that into this season 425 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: and got hurt again, and so like they've been looking 426 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: for that player. And I don't mind spending a little 427 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: bit at running back when you have the quarterback right where. 428 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: I don't like drafting a running back high or paying 429 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: a lot for a running back is when you don't 430 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: have the quarterback. But I do think a really top 431 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: notch running back, which JK. Dobbins would have been had 432 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: he not suffered all these injuries like can take an 433 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: offense to another level. And I think that's what Derreck 434 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: Henry could do. And I think that's what the Ravens 435 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: are looking to do this off se. 436 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: I can see them. 437 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: I think a lot of that just comes down to 438 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 3: the running back market. I could also see them looking 439 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: at the draft as a way to address that. You know, 440 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: the tricky thing with the draft is that we're going 441 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: to talk about the possibility of an offensive tackle or 442 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: a cornerback or a pass rusher. It's like, at this 443 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: point and then all of a sudden, you're drafting a 444 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: running back at the fifth round. Are you expecting them 445 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: to come in and start right away? Well, no, probably not, 446 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 3: you know, and then it's then it's the question of 447 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: do you want to draft a running back in the 448 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 3: first round or the second round? Okay, now now we're 449 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 3: having a different conversation. Now we're talking about resource allocation 450 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 3: and all of that. So I I do think that 451 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: if you could get Henry as an example, then then 452 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: that would be a great addition to this offense. 453 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: Obviously. 454 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: I just think it's the running back market is just 455 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 3: so hard to predict for me because it's been mostly 456 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: cold the past couple of years. But then but Henry's 457 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 3: been such a great player that somebody could you know, 458 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: somebody could give him a nice contract. I just think 459 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 3: it's hard to me. The running back market is so 460 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: hard to predict. It's so hard to guess what those 461 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 3: guys are going to get, and so that's why it's 462 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 3: hard to guess whether the Ravens could be in the 463 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: market for Derrick Henry or Saquon Barkley, who's also a 464 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 3: pending free agent. Barkley's probably gonna get a much bigger 465 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 3: deal with younger player all that, and then you know, 466 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 3: in terms of the last guy on this list is 467 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 3: Geno Stone, who the Ravens did not resign. I think 468 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 3: with genos soone, he's gonna test the market. I don't 469 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: know if the Ravens try to work out a deal 470 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 3: prior to the deadline up Monday, but I think genos 471 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 3: Soone is a guy who wants to test the market. 472 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 3: I think deserves that opportunity. Led the AFC in interception 473 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 3: second in the league, had a breakout season, and he 474 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: can go out there and see if anybody's going to 475 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: give him a nice contract and also see if he's 476 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: going to get an opportunity to be one of the. 477 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: Two starting safeties here. 478 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 3: The Ravens have their starting safeties right now and Kyle 479 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 3: Hamilton and Marcus Williams. But Gina can go out there 480 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 3: and see if you can get a nice payday and 481 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 3: get basically a guaranteed opportunity to start. 482 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to have Geno Stone back if he 483 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: went out and tested the market and didn't get the 484 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: contract that he's really looking for and right player, right price, 485 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: like the player is right, Could the price be right? 486 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the market's going to dictate 487 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: that for Gino Stone. I'd like to have him back, 488 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: and I'm not all that scared off by eating six 489 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: hundred K. If you can get him back at the 490 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: right price, I'll pay that tax, right. But what I 491 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: probably anticipate happening here is that he's offered a contract 492 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: more than the Ravens really want to pay for a 493 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: third safety who's not a starter, and that the Ravens 494 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: probably look at safety and say, there will be a 495 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: vet Aan out there. There will be somebody out there 496 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: that they can add. Most likely, I would expect that 497 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: be some other cheaper veteran that they can kind of 498 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: plug in. Is that third guy? 499 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the thing, the thing, and they have Ourt. 500 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: They also have Ardarius Washington, who you know, that's another 501 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: kind of guy who's been a little bit of a 502 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: ball hawk. Not a ball hawk, but he's got nose 503 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: for the football and he was getting some snaps before 504 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: he got injured. Earlier in the year, like the first 505 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: couple of games ard Areas Washington was playing a lot. Yeah, 506 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: he's kind of a versatile piece in that secondary, and 507 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: I think they look at him as all right, we 508 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: would add a veteran. That's We're not going to put 509 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: all of our chips on ourd Areas watching being the 510 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: number three safety, But he's part of the he's part 511 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: of the equation there, and they would add a cheaper veteran, 512 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: is my expectation. 513 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just hard. I think at the safety position. 514 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: The Ravens invested a first round pick, the fourteenth overall 515 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: pick in Coyle Hamilton great pick obviously, but big investment. 516 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: I'm with Marcus Williams. They gave him a five year, 517 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: seventy million dollar contract. Big investment. Are you are you 518 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 3: in a spot to then pay a third safety a 519 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: substantial amount of money? Now they're not giving Calla Hamilton 520 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 3: a huge amount of money yet, but keep playing like this, 521 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: he soon will get that contract. And they've already again, 522 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: you invested the fourteenth pick. You paid Marcus Williams a 523 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: ton of money, so then it's like, how much are 524 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 3: you really going to allocate to your third safety? And 525 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: Gino again, I think he he has earned himself the 526 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,959 Speaker 3: opportunity to get a nice pay day, and you got 527 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 3: to applaud that, and I think that's kind of a 528 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 3: success story. This is the guy that Ravens drafted in 529 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 3: the seventh round, goes on to lead the AFC in interceptions, 530 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 3: and now he gets an opportunity to test the market. 531 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 3: I don't know what the market will be, but I 532 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 3: would not be surprised if there's another team out there 533 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 3: that's willing to give him a contract more than he 534 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 3: could get in Baltimore. Because of the two players who 535 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 3: are already in the mix here. 536 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with all of that. The last 537 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: thing I just want to hit on is the Ravens 538 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: coaching staff. You know, now with the reports that Keith 539 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: Williams is joining the Saints' coaching staff, they do have 540 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: another coach to party. I don't know if they'll fill 541 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: that because the Ravens still have their wide receivers coaching 542 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: Greg Lewis, but they do have a vacancy there if 543 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: they want to fill that, and also an inside linebackers coach. 544 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: We have not seen a reported hire made there to 545 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: replace zak Or who obviously became the defensive coordinator. So 546 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: there's still some pieces being shaken out on the coaching 547 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: staff and I would expect that that news would come snish. 548 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could get that news this week. 549 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: Also, looking ahead a week from today, the NFL combine 550 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: is next week, right, Okay, So we're going to be 551 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: talking NFL combine and that's an exciting time around the league. 552 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: Of course, the prospects are a big driver of that, 553 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: but the other piece of that equation is when a 554 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 3: lot of these conversations started happening with agents and so 555 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 3: that could be salary cap cuts that could be potential 556 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: contract extensions. You know, that's when everybody in the NFL 557 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 3: is all in one place, agents, coaches, gms, they're all together, 558 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: they're talking and they're having these conversations, and so I 559 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: think that that's going to be you know, that's often 560 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: when you start to get reports about potential contract extensions 561 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: and all of that at franchise tag. That by the way, 562 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: on franchise tag, the deadline or the window is now 563 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: open that teams can use the franchise tag. I don't 564 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: expect the Ravens to use it, you know, right away, 565 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: but they've got one really strong candidate in Justin Mattabike 566 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 3: and Patrick Queen is also a potential candidate for that 567 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 3: franchise tag consideration. So but going back to the Combine, 568 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: John Harbaugh and Eric Tacosta will talk a week from 569 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 3: today at the Combine with the media and so we'll 570 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: see what updates they have on all of this. And 571 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: we are also going to be doing a podcast leading 572 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 3: up to that, kind of previewing everything that's happening at 573 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 3: the Combine and what to watch out for uh out 574 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: in Indy. So it's a busy time. There's a lot 575 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 3: going on behind the scenes right now and it's only 576 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 3: going to pick up over the course of the next week. 577 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 3: As always, you can email us question. 578 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah wait, Garrett, the question is do you have your 579 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: reservation scene. 580 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 3: Oh that's book that's been booked since what uh when 581 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 3: we get that one on the book that the day 582 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 3: the season ended, maybe even before the season ended, you know, 583 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 3: because once the seasons over, everyone starts thinking about it. 584 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 2: So you got to get that one booked, you know. 585 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: And maybe I might need to send an email to 586 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: Jim Kohler make sure check on what the expense report 587 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: allocations are this year. 588 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna need to get you You're gonna ordered 589 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: the burger. 590 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: You're in the big Burger this year, buddy. Now this 591 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: is get ready, they're not. 592 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: Actually the extra large shrimp cocktail. Yeah. 593 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 3: Sure, you got any forty out steaks in the back 594 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: over there. Ridiculous but yeah, so that'll We'll do the 595 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: full expense report breakdown next week as well, but as always, 596 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 3: you can email us at the Lounger ravenst NFL dot net. 597 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: We appreciate you listening. We'll be back to you again 598 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: later this week.