WEBVTT - You Don’t Get Clothes

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<v Speaker 1>This is it, it's we knows parenting. I'm Peter McNerney,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Beth now and where here we are here we

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<v Speaker 1>are now, uh, still living in quarantine like the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of you, or most people at least, still surviving. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's every day blurs into the next in some ways. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just sat down, as I often do with being

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<v Speaker 1>these recordings, and I have a moment I go what

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<v Speaker 1>happened this week? And then I next thought was what

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<v Speaker 1>is a week? What is time? It's I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it makes us really have to lean into the routine

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<v Speaker 1>of the week and like go hard on Friday night

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<v Speaker 1>and Saturday to like feel like it's the weekend. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so funny because the weekends have are now we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had full real weekends for our entire relationship because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>usually teaching in from class on weekends. And know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>what I've always wanted, is like for us to actually

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<v Speaker 1>have downtime, and we do it. We do, although I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sort of inevitably there's sort of some work being caught

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<v Speaker 1>up on because we only have half work days throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the week, but it is better than before. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing housework and you're doing we're getting ready to two.

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<v Speaker 1>Being homeowners, we do have like a weird Saturday cleaning routine. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I took a lot of garbage to the dump. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no garbage service here, so I go to the dump

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<v Speaker 1>and I love it. You love the dump. I could

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<v Speaker 1>just sort all my recyclables. You love errand's like I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I do. That has not always been true.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. My next task is what I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>redo the horseshoe pits. There's horseshoe pits where we are.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like sixty years old. Okay, if you read those though,

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<v Speaker 1>can you make me some um garden beds? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>put build extra squares for plant and budgies and stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Is this a challenge? Yeah? I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>when we're if we're ever going to leave here, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm just gonna mentally prepare for it, being

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<v Speaker 1>like not until summer or later. Yeah, We've we've planted

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<v Speaker 1>all those herbs. We have to be here until at

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<v Speaker 1>least we Yeah, I just feel like planting makes me

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm like preparing for sort of like a

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<v Speaker 1>good time and not like being trapped in a place

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't normally live, you know, just like this

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<v Speaker 1>is my home and making it my home. Things things

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<v Speaker 1>are alive here because of me. It's my home. I

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<v Speaker 1>made the life here. You made honestly, you made almost

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<v Speaker 1>you know, almost half of the life here. Almost half

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<v Speaker 1>of the life here. Yeah, okay, um no, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did today, so I had this is so boring, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is my life. Now. There had been some herbs

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<v Speaker 1>that your mom planted at this house last summer, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they were in this pot outside and they were

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<v Speaker 1>like roots, but they were kind of dead, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was like a couple that seems sort of salvageable, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was still really cold outside. So I took some

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<v Speaker 1>of the rosemary inside and put it in a glass

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<v Speaker 1>of water, hoping that it would grow roots. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it like sort of grow root, and then when I

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<v Speaker 1>touched it, I like accedentally broke the root off, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it like and then like three more weeks went

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<v Speaker 1>by and now it has a root, and now I

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<v Speaker 1>put it in a pot of dirt, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>just like, these are the things, like it will make

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<v Speaker 1>my day if this plant grows these this is my life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I've I've been fixing door knobs and hinges,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is so satisfying. There are two doors upstairs

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<v Speaker 1>there are so old that they're all warped. That the

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<v Speaker 1>door wouldn't close because the just the door is too

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than the doorframe. I went in the basement and

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<v Speaker 1>I found a planer and I went up on top

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<v Speaker 1>of the door and I just scraped like a quarter

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<v Speaker 1>of an inch of the wood off the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the door and it closes. The doors never closed for

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<v Speaker 1>my entire life. And I fixed the lock on the

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom door upstairs that shouldn't lock, So that was very satisfying.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, and you got this ship. The bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>in our room has a window on it. Yeah. For

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, it's like a French door to the bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>where you with like a cheer curtain hanging over it

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<v Speaker 1>that was on the outside of the door. So whenever

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<v Speaker 1>I would go pee, the kids would come in the bedroom,

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<v Speaker 1>pull the curtain aside and stare at me. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>like just not like how what I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about when I'm sitting in the bathroom. And now

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<v Speaker 1>you can't see see that shade at all. That is

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<v Speaker 1>rock shade. And I put on the inside of the door.

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<v Speaker 1>That didn't even occur to me that the shade was

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside. I understand why why they did that,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you're going to put like a curtain, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily want to getting steamed up and moldy the

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<v Speaker 1>master bedroom. So anyway, it's yeah, it's well in This

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<v Speaker 1>house also has like has had additions put on at

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<v Speaker 1>different times, so sometimes there's just like weird little quirks

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<v Speaker 1>of like why is this window to the other room.

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<v Speaker 1>So I which went for a little walk today. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been raining, it's going to rain all week here, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the mailbox that I built, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're so proud on the way back your crowning. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just something I had never even considered. Well, now that

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<v Speaker 1>we know that you know how to poor concrete. My

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<v Speaker 1>sister is really eager for you to put up a

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<v Speaker 1>basketball hoop. I'm not against that. She's dying for you

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Not a great place for it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know if and how we could get a

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<v Speaker 1>hoop delivered right now, if that's possible, maybe to have

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<v Speaker 1>one home depot um probably not home depot. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>going to lose anyway, um um, we've had our children

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<v Speaker 1>have been still slightly insane, pretty good. I mean, Britain,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're over sending Brent to his room,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's been a really rainy couple of weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>so they're cooped up and I think sometimes he just

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<v Speaker 1>like he gets overloaded and then he's like beyond help,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. This morning I met you

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<v Speaker 1>made them. They're nice little worksheets, which was a nice

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<v Speaker 1>surprise when we sat down to start Daddy school because

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<v Speaker 1>we started we I do it in the morning, and

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<v Speaker 1>you made these little things to drop a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>day right, a thing, here's your name. Tracey'd copy it

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<v Speaker 1>so that Maven and Britne could do together. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>nice balance of like things that they both could do.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh Brin said, I'm not doing this, and when

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<v Speaker 1>I walked out of the room, he ripped it up

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<v Speaker 1>and put it in the trash and I got so mad.

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<v Speaker 1>That is really annoying because I spent a minute making that.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Maven did the same thing with the other one,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when they calmed down, they then both did

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<v Speaker 1>the remaining page that you made for them. So you

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<v Speaker 1>did twice as much more as you need to where

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<v Speaker 1>they went the trash for somebody. I think that a

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<v Speaker 1>weekend of so much TV and then they woke up

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, watched TV and it was hard to get

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<v Speaker 1>back into the Monday routine. Yeah, they've been doing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that sort of thing lately. Maven has I

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<v Speaker 1>think I had heard somewhere that like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>children are regressing right now because the coronavirus and routines

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<v Speaker 1>are not going correctly and they're just feeling unsettled. So

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<v Speaker 1>Maven has started peeing her pants again, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>something she really did for a long time. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean here and there. Yeah, she's had occasional accidents here

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<v Speaker 1>and there, but it's not like a thing she ever

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<v Speaker 1>really had a problem with. This week, she has peter

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<v Speaker 1>her pants like ten times twice today she's been she

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<v Speaker 1>wore three dresses today. I think it was yesterday. She

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<v Speaker 1>peter her pants definitely four times in one day. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like keep trying to explain it to her, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying not to get team mad at her because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want her to be ashamed about it, like

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<v Speaker 1>I just want she doesn't seem to be ashamed. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but like when you you were kind of getting mad

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<v Speaker 1>at her, and then she like has started lying to

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<v Speaker 1>us about it. So now it's more annoying because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how long she's walking around and like sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on stuff with peepye pants, and so I like, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>like grab, I'll pick her up or something and feel

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<v Speaker 1>her butt, and her pants were all wet. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how long she's been doing that. And she

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<v Speaker 1>keeps when I tell her she paid her pants, she

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<v Speaker 1>keeps being like, no, it's just sweat. It's like so

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<v Speaker 1>much p I'm like, are you your little girls won't sweat?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're a bad liar three year old? She's she's

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<v Speaker 1>lying so much lately. I walked into the room now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like I immediately to see Brin or

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<v Speaker 1>may even look up at me, like Hi, the face

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<v Speaker 1>just said I wasn't doing anything, so don't look in

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<v Speaker 1>my hands behind my back. I didn't just eat an

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<v Speaker 1>entire bag of Reese's peanut butter chips. So this morning

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<v Speaker 1>she got ahold of a bag of chocolate chips that

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of knew she knew about, but she was

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<v Speaker 1>being kind of sly about. I would see her sneak

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of chocolate chips out and then put it

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<v Speaker 1>back in the drawer and then like go about her business.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, at least she's being like sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like considerate, like on Brand, who would just like

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<v Speaker 1>dumped the whole thing all over the floor, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just throw them all over the room

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<v Speaker 1>and go, what, Yeah, he would just eat. So I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't really like put an end to it because it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't seem like as big of a problem with some

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<v Speaker 1>of their other raids. And then this morning she had

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate all over her face and I found out from

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<v Speaker 1>them that they're eating chocolate chips, but I didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>them anywhere. And she was walking around carrying this like

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<v Speaker 1>soft cloth easter basket. She got like carrying it like

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<v Speaker 1>a purse. And all of a sudden I look in

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<v Speaker 1>I realized she has a whole bag of chocolate chips

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<v Speaker 1>in the easter basket. She's just been like carrying it

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<v Speaker 1>around the house like a little psycho. What does psycho?

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<v Speaker 1>And that little psycho is about to turn four, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday. I can't believe it's already here. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the weirdest. The weirdest thing about her birthday I

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<v Speaker 1>think is the fact that we won't have any wrapping paper.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I was trying to decided to just do

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<v Speaker 1>anything about that, and then I it's like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care well for I realized for a few days as

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, we'll just use newspaper, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I haven't touched a newspaper in how

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<v Speaker 1>long we don't have newspaper? Do you think we have

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<v Speaker 1>newspapers because I've had a newspaper. I'm in this house

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<v Speaker 1>which I connect to my parents. I connected being home

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<v Speaker 1>where there was always newspaper. I mean, I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It was a half thought. I'm just put

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<v Speaker 1>it in boxes. Maybe we'll make it a scavenger hut.

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<v Speaker 1>Would that be a fun way to open your presence

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<v Speaker 1>because it's actually just annoying to hide stuff on Easter

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<v Speaker 1>because then you have to mentally remember where everything is

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<v Speaker 1>when they can't find it. Um, But what if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a parent that loves that? I disagree. It's about idea. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I she told me this today that she wants a

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<v Speaker 1>narwhale cake, which I'm like, how the hell am I

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<v Speaker 1>going to make a narwhal. I mean just not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>You make a cake. The narwhal face is easier than

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<v Speaker 1>a unicorn, and we'll just make a little cone with

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<v Speaker 1>paper and put it on top. Yeah, I guess so.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this idea, you know, the narwhale in Elf. Bye, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you'll find your dad. I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the design, like a little mouth, and I that we

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<v Speaker 1>should go for. Okay, great, I'm so glad you're so enthusiastic. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what else? We can't go outside because it's raining for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of our lives. Um Brin smashed a lamp

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<v Speaker 1>this week, among other things that was destroyed. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to see all the things that Britain has broken

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<v Speaker 1>since we've been here, um, go to my Instagram. He

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<v Speaker 1>also to day I thought for a second that he

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<v Speaker 1>broke his nose because he was trying to play fight

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<v Speaker 1>with me and then just whirled himself towards me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I like sort of caught him, but his face flew

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<v Speaker 1>into the side of the couch really hard. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he pulled back and I was like, are you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like no, and and and then I

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<v Speaker 1>just see his nose was like I could see him

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<v Speaker 1>like squinting, and I could see him like trying to

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<v Speaker 1>decide how bad his face hurt, because he slammed his

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<v Speaker 1>nose inside and then he was just like squinting and

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<v Speaker 1>like feeling it for a second, and then slowly blood

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<v Speaker 1>started dripping out of his nostril. I was he's handled

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<v Speaker 1>it well at first, and then he didn't stand still

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<v Speaker 1>well because then you were like, oh, hey, buddy, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want me to graphically describe how this blood is

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of your nose? I knew. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>you were like you were like, what does it taste

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<v Speaker 1>like in your throat? Blood? What does blood taste like?

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<v Speaker 1>You were actually this have a scarier sense of experience.

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<v Speaker 1>That caught his attention. That was the most successful thing

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<v Speaker 1>I did know you. Once you left, we talked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was he was like, well, it distressed him

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<v Speaker 1>when he wanted to know how I knew what metal

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<v Speaker 1>tasted like, and I was like, that's a good question,

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<v Speaker 1>because it tastes like blood. Um. But when I came

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<v Speaker 1>over there, I knew. I knew. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to stay calm because the other day you and

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<v Speaker 1>Alison were out and when Britain broke the lamp. He

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<v Speaker 1>was doing so he loves Monsters, Inc. And Monsters University,

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<v Speaker 1>the two fine Pixar films. And in Monsters University there's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole plot where they're doing like the scare games

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<v Speaker 1>in college, and one of the events is like they

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<v Speaker 1>have to sneak by this librarian, so it's a sneaking game.

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<v Speaker 1>So Brin loves to sneak around as if he's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the members of Uzma Kappa. And uh so he was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like walking a room and he'll like sneak

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<v Speaker 1>with Maven around the edges, and of course they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be louder because they're on all fours, like quiet, quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he was sneaking around the back of the

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<v Speaker 1>couch and the table, and of course that's where the

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<v Speaker 1>plug to the lamp was. The lamp is a basically

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<v Speaker 1>a giant glass jar that my mom filled with pine

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<v Speaker 1>cones and it's very cool and then a lamp plugs

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<v Speaker 1>it on top. So he pulled that off and it

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<v Speaker 1>fell basically on top of him, um and it shattered

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<v Speaker 1>on the wall above his head, and then he got

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<v Speaker 1>wedged between the table and the window. So that it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't follow out of the ground, but all of the

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<v Speaker 1>shattered glass fell down to the ground where he was

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<v Speaker 1>on all fours and so I saw the shot shatter,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, very pan necked. I screamed. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>don't move, like stop stop, and of course would Brant do,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was totally freaked out by the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I freaked out and just started like in my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll like get food on his hand or something, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be like brand and he like starts flapping the

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<v Speaker 1>food all around the kitchen, like just like splashing it everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how he did not cut himself, but

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<v Speaker 1>he then was like on knees, his feet, his knees,

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<v Speaker 1>his hands, all of them running like like a Fred

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<v Speaker 1>Flintstone starting his car. They can think they're way out

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<v Speaker 1>of there. Um. The whole time I was like stop,

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<v Speaker 1>don't move, no freeze, stop eddie where they got out

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<v Speaker 1>there like Brant? And then I quickly calmed down and said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the reason why I was yelling of glass

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to get hurt, are you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not mad at you, um, But it was a

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<v Speaker 1>really scary moment where I thought he's going to have

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<v Speaker 1>like five cuts all of him. So when he had

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<v Speaker 1>a bloody nose and I knew he was going to panic,

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<v Speaker 1>I went straight to that and I was like, hey, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>we're fine. Blood buddy, the blood, it's cool, right. Can

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about the Mann pee pants incident, which which

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<v Speaker 1>one where you got very angry? I don't when did

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<v Speaker 1>I get angry? You were like, she pewed her pants,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we took them off and put them in

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<v Speaker 1>the laundry, and then she went to the laundry basketball

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<v Speaker 1>put the pepe pants. She put the pea pants back on,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you were getting really mad at her. So

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<v Speaker 1>he took the pants off again, and we're hiding them

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<v Speaker 1>and she's still trying to get them up off a

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<v Speaker 1>high shelf. Or you forgot the step where I in

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<v Speaker 1>front of her put them in the sink to wash

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<v Speaker 1>them and got them all wet. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>well now you can't. In my mind was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>she won't want to wear him now, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>threw him in the washing machine and she immediately rushed

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<v Speaker 1>for the washing machine. I was like, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, I had to go do a story part

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<v Speaker 1>live show, in the basement and prepare all the tech

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<v Speaker 1>for it, and so I was so annoyed, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I put it up high, and then I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. Well, at one point you got so angry

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<v Speaker 1>at her that you were They were like, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to wear peep pants, Fine, you don't get close. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you took her shirt off and took that away.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she was standing there naked, like pouting and

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<v Speaker 1>stomping her feet for so long. And it sounds cruel,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was, and it was weird because she was

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<v Speaker 1>being she was stood in the mudroom. So I put

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<v Speaker 1>her pants up the highest point in the mud room.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way she could ever get to it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she kept reaching for it. She knew she can't

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<v Speaker 1>reach it, it's like more than double our height, but

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<v Speaker 1>looking at me going But she also had no pants

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<v Speaker 1>and no one wear on and just her T shirt

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<v Speaker 1>and was weirdly getting self conscious, so she would try

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<v Speaker 1>to cover herself with jackets and then I would ignore her.

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<v Speaker 1>But then she peek around the corner to see if

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking, and then I wasn't looking, but then

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted me to look so that she could be

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<v Speaker 1>defiant and then I did look, but then she was

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<v Speaker 1>self conscious because she was naked, and so it was

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<v Speaker 1>just like there was so many complex emotions. I was

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<v Speaker 1>like sure, and then I was like she was like

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<v Speaker 1>that door aside was like cracked open, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>standing in your coat that was hanging on the hook,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like huddling in it, shivering, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I went to shut the door. So then of course

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<v Speaker 1>she's so angry. She goes over and opens the door

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<v Speaker 1>back up and then goes back into your coat to

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<v Speaker 1>like shiver naked, and she just kept like staring at

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<v Speaker 1>me through her like dirty bangs and just like being like,

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<v Speaker 1>we ate dinner while she stood in the mudroom and

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<v Speaker 1>we're just trying to ignore her because we tried to

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<v Speaker 1>help her, like hey, let's do this, and then we're

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<v Speaker 1>like all right, we're gonna ignore you. And then she

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<v Speaker 1>was so mad that we were ignoring her that for

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<v Speaker 1>all of dinner she was in the mud room and

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<v Speaker 1>I kept peeking over and she would just lean back

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<v Speaker 1>to look. And then the second we caught I she's

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<v Speaker 1>like hid and be like she's like I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to constantly know that I'm ignoring you. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>lost my mind and she I found her again, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find her clothes, her wet pep clothes, try to

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<v Speaker 1>grab him, John, you don't get that. You don't get close.

0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:40.399
<v Speaker 1>And I took her t shirt off. I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>also in my mind, I was like, she's about to

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<v Speaker 1>go to beds. She had to put on Jammie's so

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<v Speaker 1>I just took this off. And I was like, that

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<v Speaker 1>was an insane thing to say. This is such a funny.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get closing sounds terrible. Ah, that's your punishment. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>oh boy, what are your hopes for the week ahead? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just less punching from less p and pants

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<v Speaker 1>from mayven. Let's rain Friday, Saturday's six degrees sixty plus

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully no rain. Yeah? What else? You don't get? Closed?

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<v Speaker 1>This next segment is called Listeners Want Knows, where we

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<v Speaker 1>take questions and comments from you guys. All right, First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, we got a nice handful of emails from

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<v Speaker 1>folks emailing just say congratulations on a hundred episodes. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so thank you to all those individuals. They weren't even

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<v Speaker 1>asking questions nothing for the part. I guess they just

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<v Speaker 1>said congrats, thank you guys. How thoughtful. Thank you if

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<v Speaker 1>you wrote in. Um, this email comes to us from

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<v Speaker 1>Ah from a friend of mine. Uh, this is somebody

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<v Speaker 1>of did improv with in New York City who I

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<v Speaker 1>have not seen in a long time. Uh, Noel, who

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna read this email? My partner and I live

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<v Speaker 1>in downtown New York and are expecting a baby in

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks. We don't want to do anything as

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<v Speaker 1>absurd as naming him or her COVID or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but do want to do something to help communicate to

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<v Speaker 1>them what a crazy and historic time they came into

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<v Speaker 1>the world during. What are some ideas that won't seem

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<v Speaker 1>horribly morbid or depressing once this is behind us. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>how long after you you had kids that had take

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<v Speaker 1>to regain a comfortable headspace to start performing again. Congrats

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<v Speaker 1>on a Hunter episodes. Here's the pick of my partner, Noel. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>this picture is incredible. Oh my god. They're pregnant belly

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<v Speaker 1>outside with a coronavirus mask on her face. That's really

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<v Speaker 1>she looks really cute. That's a very cute cheese jacket. Um,

0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.800
<v Speaker 1>she's ready to go, She's ready to pop. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>great photo. Well. Uh, this is a great question, Noel,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could not help the so the very immediately

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<v Speaker 1>my brain. So Noah's last name is denin no Denin

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<v Speaker 1>the very first thing, I was like, well, it's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be quarantine toned right, quarantine to No, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>and it should not. But I do want to say

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<v Speaker 1>quarantine to need. Yeah, that's our answer, quarantine to al right,

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<v Speaker 1>next action, Um, I mean I don't do Do you

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<v Speaker 1>name your child Rhona? No, it's Rona. I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>more poetic about it, and I don't have a good

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<v Speaker 1>answer right now. Like I think you've got to find

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<v Speaker 1>a meaningful metaphor for yourself about what this time means

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Um uh, name your child inside inside? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that I think you could, you know, like evoke

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like you're the meaning or positivity that you're

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<v Speaker 1>finding in this time. So it's like something that makes

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<v Speaker 1>you feel safe, like haven, you know, like you like

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<v Speaker 1>find haven, or like Maven, like maven um or Bryn,

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 1>which means hill, like the hill that you stand on

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<v Speaker 1>in a troubled time, say Maven denin um. Yeah, But

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<v Speaker 1>I think like, well here's a question. It probably it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously doesn't have to be. You shouldn't name

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<v Speaker 1>you child, your COVID or quarantine. But what is something

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<v Speaker 1>if it was us right now, Beth, what is something

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<v Speaker 1>that's very prevalent in our life right now that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>before all this happened? Um drinking? It is literally you

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<v Speaker 1>should name your child old fashioned, mean um bitters. Simple syrup.

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:46.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh here comes old simple syrup. Oh boy, simple syrup

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>is delightful of the town simpleton. But it's me simple Syrup.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to come up with the name for

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<v Speaker 1>a cocktail I made up the other night, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, it's kind of like a bloody orange. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Noel will come up with something much better

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<v Speaker 1>than we have. Well, he's asking us bath. I need

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:13.880
<v Speaker 1>time to think about this. I need to give them

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>a questionnaire of like what resonates for you guys culturally,

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<v Speaker 1>like um, in terms of your family, like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the name has to make sense. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very personal, social distancing, distant, dustin dustinything like game. It

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<v Speaker 1>after some saint that's like a hermit. That's the most

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that's most of them. St. Francis. St. Francis was a hermit. St.

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<v Speaker 1>Francis is of a c C. He's the one of

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<v Speaker 1>animals I know. But because he was out in the wilderness, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so this Franciscan friars there they secluded

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<v Speaker 1>well anyway, Francis thorough Yeah, um boy, this is the listeners?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it great or terrible? Uh? Coronavirus? Baby name?

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<v Speaker 1>Did they say if they're having a girl or a boy?

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<v Speaker 1>They don't think they know because they kept saying him

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>or her? Um? Uh. I think like you can look

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>at like what what they're reading right now or watching

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:47.919
<v Speaker 1>or feeling inspired by, Like sometimes you take a person's

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<v Speaker 1>last name or you know, like they'll find something. How

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<v Speaker 1>did you because you came up um with most of

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 1>our kids names. I was smart enough to recognize that

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>you had some good ideas. Um was that? Did you

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>find those? Just from? I mean I sort of know,

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>but um of the typical like just going through all

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>the lists until you find something cool? Uh? No. I

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>think I searched more specifically, Like I was into like

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>very British Isles names and like nature e sounding names,

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 1>and like you can kind of search by different terms

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and like like I was looking for a while her

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>names that were associated with the ocean, because as you know,

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I have a deep love for the ocean. But it's

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>just like those names felt like too much like Oceana

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and like, um, but I told you my Oceana story.

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Keep going on, me tell them at the end. Okay. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think like that if they keep like thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about the things that they're most drawn to, they'll just

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of they'll hone in on it. Um. Great, Uh,

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.959
<v Speaker 1>what is the most Beth? What do you think the

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>most pervasive? Is that the right word? What is the

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>what is the biggest thing in our lives right now

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>that it's just what was not really any part of

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>our lives a month and a half ago? Um? Yard work, sweeping, cooking, Uh,

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>going to the dump dump McNerney would be our next child.

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Arcle comes old Dumpy McNerney and his friends. Simple syrup. Um.

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I think you know once again, like I said, you

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>could be more poetic, Like I don't know, I'd be like, oh,

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I love that the house were in as lots of woodwork,

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and a type of wood is rowan, and rowan is

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>a nice name something like that, um wood so Um.

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>The other question was how long after having a child

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 1>did we get back into performing? How long after child?

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean you were back like immediately basically, yeah, I

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't really stop. I don't think. I took Britan to

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a reductor show when he was about a month old,

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and it was like my first big outing with him.

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Was it a month or maybe two months? But I

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>felt so insane leaving the house? Oh, maybe it was.

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was a month in that I did a show.

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I did a show without him. I think I left

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>him at my such as apartment and I ran down

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 1>town to do a show. I was not more than

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 1>like I guess I was like eighty blocks away, but

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 1>it's still I felt like he was going to die.

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Every second I was away from him. I was just like,

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ, I need to get back. Why am I here?

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know when you're like on stage

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and you're just like, I'm really weird. I haven't spoken

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to a human in a while. Anyway, you're trying to

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>pretend to be a fake human when you don't remember

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 1>how to be a real one. I just like, the

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>reason I'm acting like this is because my child is

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>away from me for the first time. Like, I just

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>like was very like literal, there's a lot of fight

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>or flight signals going on. Yeah, anyway, I, um, but

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a super regular performer. I think I probably

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>just did that to prove something to myself, like to

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>prove that I would eventually leave the house again. Well,

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>you mean at that point, I think you were excited

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>to get out of the house. I think I was

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 1>like terrified. I think I like said, I like probably

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>agreed to the show in advance, thinking like I'll be

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>fine by then, and then I was just like, oh

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>my god, what have I done? Um but I think

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it's different when you're a mom and you have a

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of hormones in your body screaming at you to

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>hold your baby every second. Um. I will say the

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>amount of performing that I did dramatically went down after

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>that point. I mean not, I mean I still did.

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I did one show a week for a long time,

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 1>but before the all this happened, I was down to

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>every other week, which was the least I have performed

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>the last fifteen years. From some oh, now I'm doing

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>two shows a week from my basement. What all I

0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 1>will say about this, though? The advice that I gave

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>someone else a while back is like if you're planning

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 1>on going back to performing after you have a kid,

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it is important to realize that, like career

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 1>wise or like joy wise, I think sometimes you can

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.719
<v Speaker 1>get what you need out of a less frequent performance

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 1>schedule for a little while. So depending on whether this

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>is like your career or just like a creative outlet

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>or what, I think you can like cut down your

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>schedule a little bit. Yeah. I will say when I

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.719
<v Speaker 1>do get to do a show, I appreciate it a

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:38.719
<v Speaker 1>lot more because I don't do nine shows a week. Yeah.

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>And I think like if, just for example, if you

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>were hosting a show that was like twice a month

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and then you have a new born at home, it's like,

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>no one's really going to care if you cut that

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>show back to once a month. You know, it's just anyway.

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Um So yeah, Ronie, that's my my suggestion. What do

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>you Rony? And we got some more listeners want to

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>know for you guys, We got some more. Here we go,

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<v Speaker 1>Mother's Day question. Hi, Beth and Peter listened to your

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<v Speaker 1>hundredth episode today. Congratulations, Thank you. I've been listening to

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.879
<v Speaker 1>you guys since the start, which was quite a while ago.

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry, which was quite a while before I had

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>my son, Bertie, who is now eight months old. I

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>really enjoy the podcast, especially you're keen attention to gender

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and how you manipulate norms around it as you both parent.

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I have included a picture of Bertie. I apologize to

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Beth that he isn't a fat baby. He's big though,

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>ten pounds eight ounces that birth a million pounds now,

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess based on how my back feels carrying him

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>around all day as some background information, and my wife

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and I conceived him using reciprocal reciprocal I F V,

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>which means we used her egg and I carried him

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>fun times. That is so cool. I gotta pause to

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<v Speaker 1>show Beth, don't don't apologize for your baby not being fat,

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 1>and all baby photos are welcomed here. Oh yeah, no,

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 1>don't apologize. Oh my gosh, we got a little redhead.

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, oh boy, Bertie, Bertie boy. Um reciprocal I

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>F I VF. I've heard of that, but I've not

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>heard the term. That's awesome. I have a conundrum regarding

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Mother's Day, which I thought you might have some ideas

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>on probably the whole idea of Mother's Day and Father's

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Day is quite heteronormative, but that hasn't stopped my wife

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and I from wanting to play along in some way.

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>But how do same sex couples participate in this tradition?

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's not fair if we both have

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>to quote unquote share Mother's Day, because it would be

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 1>nice to spoil whoever special day it is. It would

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:05.720
<v Speaker 1>also feel very weird for one person to be assigned

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Father's Day, because the whole point is that neither of

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 1>us is the father. I'm also very aware that I

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 1>don't want to position myself as being quote unquote more

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>of a mother than my wife. Being pregnant and birthing

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>a baby are not the best or truest way to

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>become a mother, as evidenced by the many non gestational

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>mothers I know, adoptive foster step as well as queer moms.

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we think we should just come up with two

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>whole noon days. Do you have any fun suggestions for

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 1>a way to celebrate both of Birdie's mothers which I

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>suppose could be applicable to any of your queer listeners. Also,

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>what did you guys do for Beth's first Mother's Day?

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Is it a big deal in your family, sending you

0:36:50.400 --> 0:37:01.360
<v Speaker 1>extra love in these hectic pandemic times. Rosalie from Adelaide Australia, Well, um,

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>that's a good question. I don't. I don't. I think

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that solved really depends on your preferences. Because my first

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>instinct was like you just do like a week after

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Mother's Day the next Sunday and have that be like

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Mom's Day so that you each get your own day.

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 1>But then I thought, maybe that's stacking the holidays too

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>close together, just in terms of family planning overloads. I

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:33.720
<v Speaker 1>think it has to do with how much you really

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 1>love holidays. I think we wouldn't go for that. Um.

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I think we like being recognized and appreciation, but we're

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:50.760
<v Speaker 1>not huge gift and event. Yeah, we're not big like

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>like Valentine's Day or Mother's and Father's Day people. I

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 1>don't remember what I did for my first Mother's Day,

0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:04.280
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, Um, we've never done anything extravagant um um,

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>but we That's when I was growing up, it was

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 1>never you know, it was whatever mom wants to do,

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what we do. I remember as a teenager being

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>really like mom wants to take a raft on the

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>mini ha ha creek come on. Well. So like in

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 1>my family, Mother's Day is like a week away from

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>my dad's birthday and then Father's Day is like a

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 1>week before my mom's birthday in June, and so it

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 1>feels both times I get just totally overloaded because like

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 1>me and my sister are like, okay, we have to

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>plan four guests right now, Like it just sneaks up

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>on you, you know, I don't feel like super well,

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what I always feel about Mother's Day is

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>it's never about that one person because there's always so

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.359
<v Speaker 1>many people have to be have to spend a whole

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 1>day honoring all the moms. So I never feel like

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:04.399
<v Speaker 1>I've been in a situation where all the attentions on

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>one mom. So if it was us, we would probably

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>just say, oh, would do the same day. What there

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>is something really exciting. This is maybe not what you want,

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 1>but in my mind, how cool is it to have

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>a day where you go, hey, we're going to celebrate

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:24.959
<v Speaker 1>our parents. Um uh, that's that's the unique thing. I'd

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>never considered a day where we celebrate both of our parents.

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>But isn't part of celebration like that someone else gets

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>together the event or the gift or something for you, right,

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 1>like if you have kids and then you're getting the

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 1>gifts for them and then you know what I mean.

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.359
<v Speaker 1>It's like I was sort of picturing more grown up

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 1>kids now that I'm thinking about it. Yeah, well you,

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I'd say, if you really love events to two things

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>spring divine. One you do Mother's Day, ah, and then

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>in six months you do inverse Mother's Day. That's a

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>bad name for it, bad Mother's Other Mother's Day, your

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Mother's Day, and you do other Mother's Day, and you

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:16.359
<v Speaker 1>alternate every year who gets to be mother and who

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>gets to be other mother? What? Maybe you just call

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 1>them both other Mother's Day, others others Mother's Day and

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the other other other Mother's Day. It's just a biannual.

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>If you picked two random days, you'd have to call

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>it others mothers Other Mother's Day, and the other one

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 1>is other other Mother's Day, or it's Mother's Day weekend

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 1>and one of you is Saturday and one of you

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:43.839
<v Speaker 1>is Sunday. But okay, so if you do six months away,

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>that would put Other Mother's Day in November, which is

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>terrible timing. Well no, but there, but they lived down under,

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's better. I guess if they if they

0:40:56.040 --> 0:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>don't celebrate Thanksgiving. Yeah, it's perfect. Well, that's a great question.

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean they did say Mother's Day's coming up. I

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 1>assume Mother's Days. I don't know is that international holiday?

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I assume because you're writing about it. I think it

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 1>might be one of those ones that has different days

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>in different countries. I'm not sure. Well, they mean they're

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:20.240
<v Speaker 1>writing about it now, so it must be the same time. Yeah,

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 1>in which case you should really try having Mother's Day

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 1>in the spring. It's way better than fall. Um. Yeah,

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 1>other mothers, others mothers, other Mother's Day, others mothers who

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Other Mother's Day is when you celebrate moms that aren't yours,

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>other mothers, smothers, brothers, the mother's brothers. Um uh, yeah,

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what it's There's there's no right way, obviously.

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I think you guys seem to. That's the way you

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 1>were at this email. You've got a healthy attitude about it.

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Make your own traditions. Holidays don't mean anything universally. It's

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 1>the holidays about what your family makes it. Yeah. I

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 1>mean it's like you could also just make it like

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:16.479
<v Speaker 1>apple picking Day or whatever. Thing is fun for you

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 1>specifically to do to celebrate yourself being a parent. Um, yeah,

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>other other the other, mothers, brothers Day. What was your

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 1>favorite holiday growing up? I love Halloween interesting to fourth

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>of July interesting? Um mine was Christmas was number one always,

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 1>then my birthday, then Halloween, then it's then it's a

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>real then Thanksgiving and then who cares Fourth of yourly? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 1>What was your Mother's Day traditions growing up? I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>We probably had like a brunch or like, there was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a brunch involved, Like we probably made pancakes and

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<v Speaker 1>gave my mom something, and then depending on the year,

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<v Speaker 1>we might have taken her out to dinner or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, depending on the year, like if it

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<v Speaker 1>was an even year or an odd year, but my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>whether how much my dad got a ship together that year,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We probably all realized it was happening

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<v Speaker 1>about two days beforehand, and then we figured something out.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fine. That was that was about my family too.

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<v Speaker 1>They're never a huge Mother's Day. Then just became, um no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mixing up. I just suddenly had a memory of

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<v Speaker 1>my mom sending me a cardon Mother's Day. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of Valentine's Day. Don't let me forget to call

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<v Speaker 1>only you could like come up with a memory a

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<v Speaker 1>Mother's Day being about you. No, you know what I thought? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that because on Valentine's Day, my mom would

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<v Speaker 1>always send me a card and I'd always feel really

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<v Speaker 1>bad that I, once again, like, didn't send her a

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<v Speaker 1>card on Valentine's Day, So it felt getting a card

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<v Speaker 1>for her. I have memories of feeling selfish she did

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<v Speaker 1>not send me a card on Mother's Day, but that

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<v Speaker 1>would be even worse version of that feeling. Ah. Well, Oh,

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