WEBVTT - Draft Show: 30 Visits Start; More Pro Days 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:12.560 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.800 on the your war room for insider news and draft 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.919 analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:24.960 the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliott and now 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:30.960 your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought us well. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.400 Welcome back to the Draft Show, twenty eight days until 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:38.879 the official first day of the NFL Draft. Happy to 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:42.320 be with you guys today, as the Big Boys guy always, 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:46.320 says Dane Brugler, CBS Sports. David Hellman, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.879 K Garrison, Executive Producing, We welcome to you again to 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.239 the show that helps you. 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Send him to at 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.160 the Draft show. That's what you should always be doing. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.320 Following at the Draft show, Kink Garrison runs the account, 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.160 gives you a lot of information. We also do it 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.880 on periscope. There's another way to watch us, and we 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:14.560 appreciate you doing that. But Twitter on the twenty as always, 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.600 and then we have another edition of Tell Me More. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:21.160 I really do like tell Me More because it's not 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.560 just dealing with the top guys in the draft. It's 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.240 dealing with guys. It might be priority free agents, might 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.640 be guys six seventh round picks. Yeah, the goal is 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.880 to not talk about top guys. Yeah, and I think 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:32.800 that's a really I think that helps a lot of fans. 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.639 If we can find ways to again educate fans on 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.200 the players in this draft, just not the top players, 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.240 but but all players in this draft, I think we 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.360 do a great thing. Dane's gonna tell us a bit 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.680 about the Beast is coming out here very soon. He's 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:48.440 just got that done, so we'll get into that a 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.639 little bit and visit as well. So everybody doing well. 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.919 Ready to go, Dane. We're under a month now. Yeah, 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.160 how about that? That's hard to believe that. I mean 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:02.840 this you mentioned last week, Dave. How just it seems 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.160 this process is going a lot quicker this year. Yeah, 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.799 you know, it's just from the Senior Bowl of the 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.200 Combine to uh, you know here we are now almost 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.400 finished with Pro days, right, We're getting to get to April. 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.320 You're right, you're done with the Pro day it's the 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.320 last stretch, and there'll be plenty of news this month. 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.119 You know, we'll have the medical rechecks in a few 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.839 weeks April thirteenth and fourteen. Right, the private workouts, well, 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.639 plenty to talk about, but hard to believe. We're under 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.840 a month now. And uh so it's today, a couple 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.079 couple of pro days and at Texas and am yeah, 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.480 down in College station. You know what time? You know 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.760 what part of the process is coming now is the 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:41.720 like I'm hearing, yeah, like scouts are telling me, this 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.800 is the lies. This is where lying seasons start. A 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:49.160 lot of concerns about inter here whatever. This is actually 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.680 the slander part of this is this is where and 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:53.920 in your in your mock drafts right now are kind 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.080 of just you're just hanging on because you're getting ready 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.080 to have that last one that's gonna be the one, 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.240 whether they're gonna a right, and see where you're at. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.560 You mentioned pro days Today we had Texas A and 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:09.760 m workout. Miles Garrett worked out. Yeah. I don't know why. Yeah, 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.160 I was gonna ask you. Yeah. Unofficially, Miles Garrett runs 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:17.040 a four six one forty, but he works out for 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.039 he works out for the scouts stare down at in 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:25.560 College Station. Why again is Miles Garrett working out? He's 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:30.080 a competitor, you know, he was asked before the Bowl game, 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.360 you know, when it was inconsistent about that. Yeah, it 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.240 was the hot topic. You know, Christian McCaffrey is sitting out, 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.000 Befohett was sitting out. He was asked about it, and 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:40.560 you know, he said there was no question in his 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.839 mind he was gonna play. So he's a competitor. You know, 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:47.000 I don't he played half the season on one leg. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.920 You know, he maybe answering those questions a little bit 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.320 right that. People talking about the Alabama game how he 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.919 wasn't that impressive against Camp Robinson. Well, he was playing 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.000 on one leg. He shouldn't have been playing, but he 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.080 wanted to. He wasn't going to miss that game. So 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.200 the guy's competitor, and I give him credit for wanting 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:07.200 to go out and he lit up the combine pretty 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.440 sure it did you even better? Yeah, with the with 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.919 the Pro day and with all thirty two teams in 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.120 College Station this morning, I get it. It's not like 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.080 Miles Garrett was the it was the only guy there. 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.360 They've got other players. They have plenty of players there, 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.760 and so that's why thirty two teams were in attendance. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.000 But if I'm Miles Garrett, if I was his agent, 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.040 i would tell him you're not working out. You're gonna 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.320 pack my hand and the enjoy the conversation meat with teams, 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.560 talk to them. But there is absolutely nothing you can 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.719 do on a pro day that is going to change 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.880 a team's opinion of you. Yeah. So, and credit to 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.640 him for playing, grinding and out playing hurt. Yeah, you know, 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.920 good teammates stuff. He's not on a team right now. 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.520 He doesn't have teammates to be there for. He needs 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.320 to be looking out for himself. Yeah, there's no doubt 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.440 about nothing good that can happen to him. Sidney Jones, 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.920 Fabe Moreau too. That's all you need to say. An 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.720 example the fact, and we're gonna get to that. Things 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.440 have happened, and he still wants to work out, as 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.320 baffling to Yeah, we'll get we'll gonna get to this 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.640 what we're talking about here by other pro days Texas 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:05.880 and him. Today we had Florida and Florida State. That 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:09.880 was unusual. Florida and Florida State on Tuesday it's past Tuesday. 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.359 I hope you can follow along dascowboys dot com. We 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:16.800 have a David sets up, we have the major pro Days. 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.440 We have a guy they're covering the pro days getting 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.880 some information. So if you haven't, if you want to 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.800 get get back on and learn about pro days, make 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.080 sure you go to dallascowboys dot com and check that out. 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.400 We've got them all tapped up for you. There. You 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:33.680 mentioned Tennessee. Big Pro Day Friday. Be interesting to see 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.240 for Barnett's sake. We all kind of think that Barnett's 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:40.480 going to be a top fifteen type of player. Yeah, 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.320 and he at the combine Kamara as well, not top fifteen, 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.880 Big big day for him as well. Right, and they've 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.359 got a few other guys, Josh Malone, right, you know, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.400 we'll see what Josh Dobbs does. I think there are 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.360 some teams out there that really like Josh Dobbs. I 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.800 don't see it, but I get it with uh, you know, 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.480 the person that he is. You know, he'll fit some 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.640 some of the profiles that teams are looking for at 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.880 the quarterback position. But with Barnett, he was very sick 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.720 at the combine, right, and that effected his results. Uh, 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.720 you know, talk about Garrett being a competitor, Barnet's competitor. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.000 He wasn't going to sit out the combine, even though 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.200 he wasn't out one hundred percent. So eager to see 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:22.320 the numbers, the agility testing, see how he does at 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:23.960 Tennessee's pro Day. I see if he can boost some 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.200 of those numbers and show better than what we saw 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.520 at Indianapolis. I'm gonna get into his now some draft 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.760 room discussions, because that's what's going on now. Yeah, you know, 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.240 that's exactly what's going on right now. Me and this 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.920 and this is this is where, and I'll throw some 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.880 I'll throw some out there. Just I mean, it's about 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.480 you know, we talked about Tabor from Florida. A lot 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.040 made about that forty yard dash time at the combine. 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:52.080 He was a four six one guy Florida Pro Day. 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:55.320 Thought he was going to run better, gets into four sevens, 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.440 four seven three, four seven five, Nothing really great about that. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.360 You were kind of hopeful that that, Yeah, you were 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.680 hopeful that he would be better, that the forty time 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:08.320 would be better. But it's not well, it's you didn't 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.360 think he could do worse. You know, I didn't think 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.560 you could do worse. That was the conversation, like, oh, 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.280 he ran a four to six two at the Conwell, 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.920 you know he'll he'll run it again at the pro day, 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.600 and you know he can't do any worse than that. Well, 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.960 not only does he do worse, but he does significantly worse. 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.600 That's bad for a linebacker. Let me ask you this though, 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:29.640 as a scout, you're jumping up on the table for him. 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.199 If you're put put you know, you're Will McClay or 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.800 Jerry Jones. Ask you a question. You're the you're the 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.960 Southeast scout, You're you're Mitchella point for the Cowboys. You're 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.320 gonna jump up on that table for Tabor. Very very 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.080 difficult discussion, and I think it needs to be a 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.840 discussion because so you're not gonna go strong on this one. 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.920 I'm not standing on the table. No, But this is 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.040 a player who showed well on tape, who has down 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:58.160 passes right, but he's also aided by a defense that 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.680 has plenty of other pros on it at safety with 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:04.959 Marcus May the other three technique exactly putting pressure up front. 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.160 Davis alone E there are plenty of other NFL players 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.920 on this defense. Uh, and that helped, you know, that 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:17.000 helped Tabor. You know, if you wanted to jump passes, 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:22.440 he didn't have to protect against his lack of speed downfield. Well, 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.920 you sound torn about this. I am. This is it's 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.280 difficult because I like the tape, but there is not 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.960 a position in the NFL that's more dependent on speed 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:36.960 than corner. A wide receiver, running back, linebacker, safety. You 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.680 can do with average speed. You can mask average speed 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.280 with you know, strengths and other spots, and at corner 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.839 you can do you can mask average speed. But four six, 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.560 four seven that's not average speed for a corner. That's 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:54.040 below average. And so how do you how do you 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.400 factor this in when the tape is as well? It's good, 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.480 it is, but this Taber is a player who isn't 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:05.600 technically sound. He relies on just pure instinct on his 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.520 you know, he has a knack for you know, jumping 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.960 passes and making plays on the ball, but he doesn't 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:13.880 do it with any rhyme or reason. He just he 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.040 kind of goes out and plays football. He's got a 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:18.720 great feel for it, right, and he does. Yeah, but 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.400 he's also going in against the NFL and NFL receivers 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.480 who are savvy and they understand how to set him 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:27.959 up and or you know, do you really trust him 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:32.040 in that capacity? I don't know. I really struggle with 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.240 this player and putting a value on where I'd be 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:40.160 comfortable drafting him and putting him on the board. This 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.559 this cornerback spot, Dave, I'm gonna ask you this, this 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:48.560 cornerback spot where Dallas maybe felt pretty comfortable at twenty eight. Yeah, 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.920 it's kind of turned into a disaster, hadn't it was 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:54.760 Cindy Jones. Disaster feels harsh, But yeah, I mean when 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:56.680 you tabor, I mean, no, if you're sitting there looking 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.719 at it, if you're if you're if you're wanting you know, 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.400 they're gonna throw numbers it ready, you can go numbers 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.840 at this thing. You can go find us in January 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.880 or February. Like, there's about eight guys there that and 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:08.280 you know some of them are going to be there 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.680 at twenty eight and that number is kind of dwindling. Well, 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.079 the position that you want a guy at, say at 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.960 twenty eight, you're you're everybody's comfortable to taking City Jones? 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:21.560 All right? Was was was? I'm more comfortable to taking Moreau. 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.440 You know at twenty eight. At twenty eight, you'd still 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.439 take him there, I would, I would, Yeah, I have 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.000 him over Taber. I think you'll be ready for the season. 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.040 I think that peck thing, I think that you're not 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.800 gonna happen. I maintain my position from earlier. You don't 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.800 like hurt players, No, no, no, no, that's not what 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:39.880 I was gonna A peck doesn't scare me as much 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.560 as an achilles or the shoulder. Yeah. Well, and McKinley 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:47.040 is another story. But I still understand how shoulder and 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.080 McKinley scares you, but there's it doesn't know, it doesn't 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.600 scare me. And you guys have done a good job 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.880 into talking me into McKinley. It doesn't scare me. I 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.440 just rather have him on the field. But I'd be 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.800 fine drafting him because I know when he's healed from that, 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:02.880 he should be fine. Like, I don't worry about it 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.200 long term. I would just rather he missed almost all 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.600 last year with a foot injury. Now you're talking me 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:09.079 back out of it. I'm just saying, what is it? 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.679 State in facts, I want healthy players, and two your 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.280 you didn't ask me, but I speak up. His podcast 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.480 is called Trust the Tape. Yeah, there's something to be 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.520 said for the amount of talent on the Florida defense. 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.440 This goes back to my Taco Charlton thing too. If 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.360 I was taking this guy at four, that would be 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.560 a nightmare. But when you consider that twenty eight as 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.679 a second round pick anyway, which it is, I'll take him. 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.560 I'll take He's got multiple years of proving that he 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.680 can hold his own against quality receivers from the SEC. 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.760 He's a scout from Louisiana. Makes a little sense a 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.120 second round pick a long track. I take him. I'm 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.680 not I'm not. I'm not backing up. I would do it. 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.600 I'm not backing up. I'm looking at that tape. It's 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.320 the same thing with a Connecticut kid. You know, I 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.680 believe the tape. I believe that tape on that Connecticut kid, 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:58.520 I really do. He worked out like a Champ six four, 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.319 running like he does now. I will say like that though, 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.800 I will say this, and we've talked about this before, 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.400 you know, Tabor being a bad interview maybe like maybe 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:11.080 not just fair. It's right kind of guy, we'll see. 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.040 That scares me more than his four seven. To be 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:16.920 honest with you, you think the Cowboys bring him in? Yeah? Probably, 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.200 you think he's one of they're gonna throw numbers at it. 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.720 They don't have a defensive backfield, so he's the prime 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:24.920 candidate to bring in because you want to do your 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:26.960 due diligence on a player like this. Yeah, you know, 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.559 there's there's plenty of questions. So you bring him in 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.240 and you sit them down, put them on the board. 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:36.000 You know, you find out more about the person. Uh 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:38.960 just you know this, this cocky, brash attitude. Is it 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.320 more of a persona that he's taken on, you know 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:42.840 it just because that's what you have to be as 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.880 a corner or is that truly just his personality? And 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.559 that's sounds like Bosa last year. I remember last year 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.960 when they brought in like every conceivable quarterback might be 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:53.840 able to draft. I think they're going to do the 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.760 same thing with corner. Gotcha? How about this draft room talk? 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:05.280 How about two safeties going in the top five? Yeah? Yeah, 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:10.400 I mean so much? No, I well, no, I gotta 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:14.720 throw another one at you. How about how about Mahomes 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.120 in the offensive scheme? I guy's visiting eighteen teams it 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.520 sounds like, yeah, he's he's gonna he's gonna go in 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.720 a free trip somewhere in the United States because of 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:27.040 frequent flyer miles. Go see, let's go see the country. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.760 We kill that scheme. Yeah, it doesn't produce very many 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:35.200 good pros. It hasn't produced an eight teen teams wanting 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:36.920 to work this guy out. He's got his pro DA 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:38.920 coming up to by the way, in Lubbock. He's the 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:43.000 most physically gifted of any quarterback in this class. Yeah 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.400 that's fair. You had him in your top fifty to 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.920 start that. I give you credit. Yeah, I did you credit. 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.320 You saw the player and he's still there. You know, 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.480 he's right there in the mid second round. By this bothers, 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.960 you've done it these draft room discussions. No, I just 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:59.840 I get both. I guess I see both sides. Okay, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.040 start with the safety conversation. Yeah, I was just throwing 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.080 stuff out there, just kind of looking around. But okay, 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:08.760 this like with MALIEK. Cooker and uh and Adams out 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.400 of LSU, if they're drafted top five, they'll instantly be 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.560 one of the highest paid players at their position. And 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.400 you know this is this is with the new CBA 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.560 in the and you know, the slotting. It just we 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.480 don't see safeties go that high very often. The safeties 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.880 that do go that high, or the Sean Taylor's of 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:27.640 the world, and neither of these guys you want to 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.720 put in that conversation because that's putting a lot on 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.120 both of them. I love Sean Taylor. Yeah, it's it's 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.359 it's hard to put these two guys in that conversation. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.320 But they're both playmakers, and they're both two of the 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.960 top five players in this draft, and so does the 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.600 value match up? Uh? You know, do you would you 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:50.680 rather take those two safeties or take two those wide receivers. Oh, 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.280 I'm taking the two safeties in the top five. Yeah, 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.800 the safeties all day. Yeah for what it's just for 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.720 the record, you could take out the names MALIEK. Cooker 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.240 and Jamal Adams and put in Ezekiel Elliott and we're 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.760 having the same conversation right last year. Oh, I was 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.600 gonna get to that four Nette or cook That's gonna 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:11.440 be a draft room discussion right there. McCaffrey. McCaffrey, I'm 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.960 not I'm just saying that I haven't seen I haven't 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:18.160 seen I haven't seen McCaffrey in the top ten. I've 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.440 seen people talking about cooking four Nette. Yeah, I think 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.080 I think McCaffrey has a better shot to go ahead 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.760 of Cook, who just with the with the way McCaffrey has, 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.520 what he's done over the last few months, compared to Cook. 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.080 You also factor in Cook's off field past, his injury history. 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.640 I think McCaffrey has a better chance of coming off 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:42.640 the board before before Cook. We're worried about anything. When 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.400 you turn in Christian McCaffrey's you know exactly the type 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:50.600 of player you're getting. You know exactly person you're getting. Um. So, yeah, 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.720 that's not the case with some of these other guys. 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.840 But with safety, I'm okay, back to the safety conversation, 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:59.280 I'm not worried about either of these two guys. People 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.600 can talk about how you don't take a safety top 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:05.520 five unless they're truly elite or you know, they're guys 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.439 Day one. What elite elite guys here? I think they 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.440 have potential to be. I both have questions Like Jamal Adams, 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.800 he you should hear people talk about him, you know, 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:20.480 like Scouts and people around the LSU leader they glow 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:24.159 talking about his intangible as the leader that he is, 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.240 the person that he is, he I don't think. I 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:31.440 think he's a very very solid player. I'm not convinced 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.520 as he's gonna go to multiple Pro Bowls. I mean, 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.000 I think he has that potential. I think he'll compete 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.560 for that type of distinction, but I'm not convinced that's 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.760 the type of playmaker he is. Where with Millie Cooker, 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:45.000 we haven't seen him work out because the injuries one year. 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.680 Wonder you know, the ball skills, his coverage range and 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.280 the deep half of the field can be elite, but 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.720 there are some questions there. We really tackle and he will. 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.320 He's like a kind of a cut down tackler. Sometimes 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.000 that's fair to say. Yeah, yeah, so there are questions 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.520 with these guys, but they would not scare me from 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:06.000 taking either top five. See that's the thing about it is, 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.239 I'm let me get into another one. How about this? 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.879 How about these tight ends? You can take a tight end, 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:14.840 You're gonna draft a big wide receiver. What are you 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.480 doing there talking about in the NFL? Yeah, I'm just 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.040 saying that if you look at the if you look 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:20.600 at the you know, what are you doing with these 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.280 tight ends, they all run fast. The evolution of the position. 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.440 That's what the tight end position is in the NFL. Now, yeah, 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.600 but how valuable is it if you hit on them? Though? 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.080 Like how valuable are though? Sure you better have you 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:36.360 better have Hooker or Adams icover them. Right. Then? That's 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.679 why safeties are more important than today's NFL because of 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:40.880 these tight ends that are coming through. I mean, every 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:43.879 you would like the prototypical wide tight end, you know, 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.200 inline guy, but these guys are f's, you know, they're 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.199 they're the joker, the move tight ends who kind of 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.320 flux all over the offensive formation. And you know they're 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.160 not guys you want blocking, you know, snap and snap out, 0:18:56.359 --> 0:19:00.639 but they can be mismatches as as pass etchers and 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.960 really help you out in the red zone, stretch the field. 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:09.960 So you know, Najoku and Howard and Shaheen, I mean, 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.240 Shaheen at least has a chance to play in line. 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:16.280 He does. That's to me. See, these are the kinds 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.560 of questions these guys are gonna ask, well, and that's 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:22.920 what And to give people kind of context, there shouldn't 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.840 be much debate on draft weekend about these guys. No, 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.000 that's what's happening right now, Yeah, yours are happening right 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.960 You were fighting for Tabor right now. If you believe 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.240 in Tabor, if you're Dane Brugler and that's your school, 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.320 and you've seen him play and you've got up close 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:41.200 to him and watched him practice, this is the time 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.760 you better stand up, because if you don't stand up, 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.480 you're not helping your team. Yeah, you don't. You don't 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:49.720 want to get bullied in this thing. This is where 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:53.000 you don't get bullied. And this is where any scout 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:56.159 that has watched him is in this room. Yeah. Probably 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.919 you know, the defensive coaches, the cornerback coach, the defensive coordinate, 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:02.240 I'm there in this room, the general manager, head coach, 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.320 they're in this room. So this is Yeah, this is 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.000 your chance to tell everyone in that room what you 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:10.399 think of the player, how he fits the particular scheme 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:14.560 of the team that you're drafting for, and give him 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:16.960 a greade, put him on the board. That sounds so frustrating. 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.639 It's like you spend ten months of your life getting 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.439 this guy down, and like the coach comes in and 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:27.399 he's like, yeah, tips look kind of always talking fifteen 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:29.240 minutes at the camp. Yeah, I don't like I this. 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:31.680