WEBVTT - Moldy Cheese 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:05.480 Boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:09.280 week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.920 the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.800 crackheads in the Ghetto Cutter the same as the rich 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:19.880 pill poppers in the penthouse the clearing House of Hot 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.639 takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:31.520 Ben Maller starts right now, back at it again on 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:36.560 a Saturday's Saturday's Saturday. It is another edition of The 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:41.480 Fifth Hour with Ben Mallor as we are back at 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.760 it eight days a week. This is the Saturday Podcast. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.640 And I don't know about you. I've done a lot 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:52.000 of these things. That conversation with Tommy john is in 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:56.680 my top five pantheon of things I did not expect now. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:58.440 I was very excited to talk to Tommy, and I 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.320 enjoyed the conversation, and if you didn't hear it, I 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.800 do highly recommend going back. Because so often we have 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.280 people on who are guarded and afraid to say anything. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.520 Tommy was the opposite. He said whatever was on his 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:17.360 mind and told the fact that he almost died of COVID. 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.680 A wild tale from baseball player Tommy Johns so I'm 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.080 still I'm still getting over that. I'm still you know, 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:30.040 I'm still enjoying the afterglow of that conversation. But the 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.960 podcast game does not end. The podcast machine does not end. 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.679 And this the Saturday Podcast, and we thank you for 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.920 hitting that subscribe button, giving us five stars and telling 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.520 a friend, telling a friend, what does that help us out? 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.440 And yet again it's it's like a hostile take over. Here. 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:50.200 Ryan Smith, better known as his wrestling name Ryan McBain 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.040 is writing shotgun. Are we still allowed to say that? 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.120 He's in the passenger seat here on the fifth Hour 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:00.840 with Ben Maller. So Mr McMahon, the number one Boston 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:04.400 fan that I know that works at Fox Sports Radio Boston, 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:07.560 can kiss my ass. Yes, yes, yes, and yes you 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:10.520 can still say shotgun. Okay good. That has not been 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.280 canceled yet. So you're writing shotgun I came, which is 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.160 a great reference, as you know, Ryan, because you're a 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:19.080 historian of words. That goes back to the stagecoach days, right, 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:20.959 that was the in the early days of travel in 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.240 the Old West. They had the person who was driving 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.239 the stage coach, who was holding onto the straps with 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.040 the horses, and then the person next to him was 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.720 the lookout in case some you know, some hostile attack 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:33.760 on the side of a dirt road somewhere, so they 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.000 had you. You were literally holding a shotgun sitting next 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:41.160 to the driver, and you had to obviously defend stage coach. Yes, 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.400 I'm your protor. That's right, you are holding the weapon, 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:48.400 protecting us from evil people who from Boston, evil people 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.720 from Boston. Yes, here we go again, here we go. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.359 All right, So on this podcast we'll see how much 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:54.720 of this we get too, because I have a lot 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.639 of things I wanted to rant about. I've got the eulogy, right, 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.520 the eulogy, the p it's a party foul, We've got that. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:07.240 We have pop quiz and study, you know, let's get 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:09.040 scientifical that kind of stuff. So when we might get 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:10.799 some of that, depending on the time, Depending on the time. 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.160 You don't want a tight clock here unless we're not. 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:14.800 But I didn't want to spend some time at the 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:20.280 beginning of the Saturday podcast to acknowledge said it and 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:24.560 forget it. And if you've been a fan of a podcast, 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.840 we've been doing this for a while now, and we 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.600 we try to get people that touched my life in 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.080 one way or another, people I like in radio. Usually 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.960 we get a lot of radio nerds that come on here, uh, 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:41.360 and and athletes that I appreciate and whatnot. And with 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:45.080 that as the backdrop, one of the people that I 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.240 really wanted to get on the podcast that I tried. 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.080 I said, when I got this podcast, I gotta get 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:51.600 this guy on. I want to talk to this guy. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:56.920 This guy's alleged he's a living legend, and I I 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:02.119 had it booked. It didn't happen. So we're talking about Uh, 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:06.520 the old gangster of infomercials has gone to salesman heaven, 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.560 Ron Pope Peel. Ron Pope. Now we mentioned this briefly 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:14.200 in the Overnight the other day, but Ron Popeel not 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.159 just an infommercial guy. The guy was an inventor. But 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:21.559 he did become the face of infommercials and the as 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:27.520 seen on TV product line the Showtime Rotisserie, the Pocket Fisherman. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:32.560 He passed away this week at age six. Apparently had 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:38.440 a brief medical emergency on Tuesday. And life is so fragile, 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.400 so fleeting at at all ages, but especially when you 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.640 get to that age. And then he passed away the 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:48.200 day after here in Los Angeles at Cedar Sinai where 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.200 a lot of the celebrity people go. That's the celebrity 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:55.039 hospital there in La La Land. And and so he 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:59.800 has known as the the the set in the forgett 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.400 It And so he's checked out. And I wanted to 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.640 give you the backstory if you missed those podcasts, kind 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.920 of give you the story here. So I love infomercials. 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.520 I've always been more of a night person. And when 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.440 I was a kid, there wasn't a lot to watch 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.440 late at night on television. A lot of reruns and 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.120 a lot of TV stations actually would like shut off 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.360 after a certain hour and just have nothing. And then 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.880 infomercials came and that was a big thing, and I 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.640 would watch quite a bit of infomercis. We didn't have 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.640 the interweb the way it is today now. When I 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.080 can't sleep, I'll just go on the Internet and I'll 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.840 fall into the matrix and I'm good. I can kill 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.240 hour after hour on YouTube. But that didn't exist, so 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.920 so I watched a lot of infommercials. It was very 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:51.479 influential on my childhood, which is bizarre to say, because 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.440 I didn't really buy much. I did buy one thing 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:58.320 I bought the They had car wax that you could 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.680 put on the car and you could light it on 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:03.680 fire and the car would not be burned. And this 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.640 was such an impressive infomercial to me that I bought 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.800 the car wax. And I was so excited because they 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.160 threw in all those extras and all that good stuff. 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.960 Um so I had. That's the only thing I bought. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.919 But I watched so much of Ron Popel and the 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.200 Showtime Rotisserie was the most famous of the late night 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:30.080 infomercial sold a billion, a billion rotisserie cookers one billion, 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:36.120 and and just insane, just just insane. So and uh 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:40.000 and and he was the guy that is credited with 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:46.200 coming up with the most famous phrase in salesmanship. But wait, 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:51.160 there's more. But wait there's more. Is that not perfect? 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.839 But wait there's more. So so I attempted to book 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.479 Ron POPEO. I have followed him on Facebook for many years. 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:02.640 We are Facebook, Ron Popeel and myself, and so I 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.000 reached out on Facebook. I said, hey, Ron, I'm a 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.880 radio guy. I put myself up a little bit, put 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:12.240 my look at me. I'm so great. Uh. I do 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.720 a radio show and it's on four hundred stations and 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.360 it's on all over the world, you know, really pumping 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.400 it up, you know, really exaggerated, which is not exaggerate. 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.040 I'm just pumping up. So Ron gets back to me 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.880 and said, listen to my publicist. Talk to my publicist. 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.280 We'll do it, okay. So I talked to the publicist 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.480 and then I play email tech with the publicist. We 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.280 go back and forth, very nice woman, and she's like, 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.200 what's where's the show going to be broadcast? You know, 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:38.080 how long is the inter We're gonna be all those who, what, where? When? Why? Questions? 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.360 So I'm okay, all right, you know, I answered all 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.480 the questions. We go through everything, um, and she says, okay, 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.760 I'll talk to Ron, just make sure he definitely wants 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.800 to do it, and we'll get back to So she 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.240 emails me back. She says, Ron really wants to do it. 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:52.560 He wants to know who you've had on in the past, though, 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:54.400 some of the names you've had on the past. So 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.600 I said, okay, no problem. So then at that time, 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:58.760 it was early in the fifth hour, and at that time, 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:00.440 the only names we had had on on We're like 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:06.320 Tony Bruno and Lenny Dikest. It was like that was it, 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:11.320 and radio's Tony Bruno and baseball's Lenny Dice. So I 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.080 wrote back and I said, well, we had Lenny Dikester 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:14.800 was part of the eighties six Mets, you know, it's 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.440 a wild character. And baseball we had Tony Bruno, the 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.280 guy started ESPN Radio, he started Fox Sports Radio pretty 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.720 much is the god of syndicated sports radio. We had 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.040 him on. You know, we're just starting the podcast, and 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:30.400 she says, okay, great, I'll go back to Iron and 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.160 then we'll come back to you and it should be 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.760 no problem. We'll book the podcasts. Yes, sure, no problem, 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.440 so I said. I wrote back and said, well Thursday. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.480 You know, we do the normal to record the podcast 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.960 in the afternoon on Thursdays. There's good, no problem. So 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.760 she then I get no response right for a couple 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.240 of days, and I'm like, well, this is not good. 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:47.839 This is not good. You know. She had been writing 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.240 back and then like the morning before we were supposed 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.280 to record the rom Pool Peel podcast, which I thought 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.200 was a tentative green light go in turn. Instead it 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.760 was like a yellow light, but it was actually more 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:00.480 of a red light. She writes back, she says, well, 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:05.160 after further review, uh, you know, run just you know, 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.079 he's got to spend time with his the grandkids, and 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.640 he's got he's got a house in Malibu. I think 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.080 it was that he had to go to and he 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:12.560 just doesn't have time to do it, so he can't 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.880 do it. She said, okay, great, so why don't we 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.400 do it next week. We can do it next week, 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.080 maybe he won't be as busy. And then she's she 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:23.120 realized I didn't get the message, you know, the kind 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.760 put down, and so then she just said, well, you know, 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.719 Ron just he didn't have enough big names on there, 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.319 so he didn't want to do it. And I was like, 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.040 all right, whatever. I was devastated, but you know, that's fun. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.520 I mean the guy was in his his golden years 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.679 and that's that's his position. But it doesn't mean I'm 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:42.320 not a huge fan. A huge fan. I've read books. 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.120 Uh that's what a loser I am. I've read books 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:49.199 about informercial. I'm just fascinating. No, no, McBey, no, seriously, 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.600 you're laughing at me, Mr Big. But here's my position. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:57.560 Like radio is, sales were in the sales business, right, 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:59.960 and really all of life is sales. You want people 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.240 to like you. You're selling your your personality, You're selling 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.320 you know, if your business, you're selling business. And they 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:10.600 have mastered all of these Jedi mind tricks in infomercials. 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.760 They really have, and I've I've been fascinated by it. 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.480 I was a kid, I had no business, I didn't 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.040 even have any money or a credit card, and I 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.920 would watch for hours these infomercials and be captivated. You 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.760 should have lined by the way. You should have said, yeah, 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:27.679 we had we had lots of big names on on 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.840 the pond. That's what you should have done. I know 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:34.240 on on hindsight. We used to have a producer I 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:38.280 will not say the name, uh, but famously would book 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:43.320 star baseball players and sometimes he would say he was 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.440 the Today Show or you know, because it was he 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.480 was doing. He was perusing a morning show and so 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.160 he was like, yeah, hey, it's so and so from 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:51.840 the Today Show. Can you come on? And then they'd 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.920 be like, Okay, sure, I think I know who the 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.040 producer is. You probably do know who the producer is. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:01.080 You probably do no wire, I don't know is I 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.080 know it's morally not proper Ryan, I know it's morally not. 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.199 I don't know if it's illegal to say that. I'm 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.559 not sure about the hell it is. The show does 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.560 take place in the morning, yeah, yeah, and you could 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.880 say that among the people on the show, that's what 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.240 we call it. You could say, that's the name that 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:22.840 we have for the show. So, uh, be sure to 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.640 catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:29.080 two am eastern pm Pacific. Anyway, just to wrap up, 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.160 I won't spend the whole thing on rom Po Peo, 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:35.920 but he did influence me a little bit and actually 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.560 a lot. And he had the whole Ronco line of products. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.680 I mean this this was all kinds of crap that 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.880 has just filled landfills over the years, right, I mean 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.400 and for radio, now, this is something I did have, 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.400 but I didn't get it off an infomercial. My mom 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.520 bottle for me because she knew I was a fat 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.000 kid that wasn't gonna make it in sports. And I 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:58.600 wanted to be on radio. Mr microphone, Mr microphone. Uh 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.679 that was all you could hook up to the radio 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.560 and beyond the radio, and that mattered back in those days. Now, 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.680 of course, you go on YouTube, you know different there's 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.600 a stone age back then. But I was a big deal. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.480 It's like the first karaoke machine. I had a MR microphone, 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.400 I did, I still have one that I'm a grown up. 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:13.559 I have a I'm a grown ass man. I have 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:17.040 a MR microphone, radio studio here um. And he had 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.240 the pocket Fisherman. You know what, any jokes didn't Saturday 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:21.640 Night Live in the old days. I think they did 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.559 jokes about the pocket Fisherman. Goofund on, Ron popeel Um. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.439 I mean, there's all kinds of stuff. His his stuff 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:33.160 is in the Smithsonian's that's wild. So rest in peace, 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:39.920 Ron Popio in fullmercial god, who ended his life worth 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:46.160 two hundred million dollars two hundred million smackaroos. And I 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.800 know even in recent years from being Facebook friends with him, 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.400 that he would still hang out with the other big 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:55.800 stars of the infomercial world. Like there's this tight fraterning 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.280 there and I know it's table. I think this guy 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.160 has been banned by a lot of people. I off 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.680 photo of him with the my pillow guy saying with him, 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.880 I know you're a big fan Ryan, not at all, 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.360 not at I'm not a fan of him. Who do 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.360 you hate more than my pillow guy or Boston. Oh, 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.760 that's a good question. That's a selfie's choice, that's a 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:22.960 pick your poison. Yeah, I ain't. I guess, I guess 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.160 how to go with Boston? I guess, But let's put 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.640 you you really don't hate the my pillow guy as much. 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:34.000 That's pretty close close. So on a scale of one 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.400 to tend Ryan McBain, what how big a loser am 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.760 I that my hero, one of my heroes as a kid, 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:44.600 was a guy hawking products on infomercials. I wouldn't say 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:48.319 you're a loser at all. I would say that you're uh. 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.840 You just give a valuable lesson, and that lesson is 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.880 if you want that big interview, you gotta lie. Yes, 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.840 that is true. That's a teachable moment. That is correct 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.240 teachable moment. But all the tricks, and think out the 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.360 tricks that are used today in sales, like the feigning. 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.000 A small amount of one of the tricks that he 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.160 learned on the I think it was on the Jersey 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:13.720 shore at the boardwalk on Atlantic City is Ron Popeo 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.240 was out and he was before he became an informercial guy. 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.720 I remember reading a book about his his early life 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.480 and he would be out on the boardwalk. His father 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.200 was in the business, and he would get people walking 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.280 down the boardwalk and he'd have these over the top 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:30.360 sales pitches like a carnival barker, but you're selling a 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.200 pasta maker or something like that, you know. And and 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.360 then he he would have a crowd. He build a 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.920 crowd up, and then he would sell products. And then 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.040 before he sold all the products, he would he would 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.640 say we we ran out, and he'd keep the crowd. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.960 So then the next time he started it over the 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.840 same bullshit, the bullshit, he would have a crowd. And 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:54.840 then he realized that other people, because human nature, and 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.000 this has been proven, when people see a line people 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.920 waiting for something, they think it's a more important They 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.160 they're curious, right, I guess the first thing would be curious. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.280 Secondly they're like, what, well, this must be really good. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.960 People are waiting online for this, and so it's he 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.440 channels human nature. And to this day, when you open 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:17.040 a restaurant, if you pay, you're not gonna have to pay. 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.320 But if you get a crowd of relatives and friends 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.160 to fill up the restaurant and make it seem like 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.640 it's really popular, people that would never eat at that 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.880 restaurant will come to the restaurant thinking, you know, there's 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.280 something amazing about that. There's a scientific name for it. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.840 I don't remember it offhand here, I have to look 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.080 it up, but it's true. My my wife's the same way. 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:38.920 My wife, Well, we've got to go to that restaurant. 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.200 It's popular. I'm like, no, I'm the opposite. I'm like, 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.200 I'm an introvert like you McBain, and I want I 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.160 don't want to go anywhere near where it's popular. I 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:47.640 want I want to go where there's no one. I 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.920 want to go where they haven't served uh that meal 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.400 in two months. That's where I want to go, exactly 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:59.080 because you're seated quicker. Absolutely, I totally agree with you exactly, 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:04.600 all right, So, uh we have a pizza party. Foul 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:10.280 Tales from the Halfway House at the Mallard Mansion Tails 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:14.280 from the Halfway House at the Mallard Mansion. Now, as 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.480 you know, I dabble. I dabb only kitchen, and since 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.840 I am living in a temporary place with a rather 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.000 small kitchen, I would say this is the smallest kitchen 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.680 I've had since I lived in a little ship whole 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:33.360 apartment in Hollywood. It's very tiny. It's a little like 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:37.000 a small wrap around kind of corner, doesn't even go 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:38.960 through the whole corner of the room type of thing. 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.880 I bet your kitchens bigger than my entire apartment, no chance, 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:45.680 how big. You have a studio or a one bedroom. 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.760 I have a one bedroom. Well, yeah, you don't even 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.360 have If you don't, if you had a studio, then 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:54.800 you could make that argument. Studio apartments blow terrible. I 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:59.040 hate studio apartments. So you have a one bedroom, one bedroom, 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.960 one bath. Of course that's all you need. Now, if 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.119 you had no bath, you'd have a problem. If you 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:05.680 have no bath, you'd have an issue. That would be 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:09.760 a problem, slight problem. So it's a small, small kitch 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.200 and there's a lot of stuff in boxes. And I'm 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.960 I'm not the first world problem. It's a good problem 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:16.840 to have them living the whole ball life. Fine, whatever 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.480 I signed up for in any event, get to the point, please. 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:24.240 So this week, in my haste to make the perfect 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.200 Mallard pizza, it's the one thing I still cook. Everything 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.240 else I got to eat out of a doggy bag 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:30.960 because I have to get It's the one thing I 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:34.080 can cook in this in this fugazy kitchen, I got 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:39.520 so the Mallard pizza, and I am very meticulous. I 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.919 am a person that follows the recipe exactly. But I 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.199 have made the Mallard brand pizza so often that it 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.840 has become second nature. I make it every week, normally 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.800 on Tuesday. That's pizza day. Don't eat on Monday, eat 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:55.160 break the fast with the Mallard pizza on Tuesday. Well, unfortunately, 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:56.959 as I said, to my haste to make the perfect 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.919 Mallard pizza, I did not pay proper attention to detail 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.160 this week and this week different than all other weeks. 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.520 And so after rolling out the dough, putting the tomato 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:11.440 sauce on, spreading out the mazzarella, the spices, the Italian seasoning, 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.240 the pizza spices, the garlic, the onion, the bell pepper, 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.359 all that, so I get to the very end. My 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.960 my last touch on the pizza is I try to 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:22.960 make a big fat crust and I like to put 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.280 parmesan a cheese around the crust. You know, that sprinkle 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.879 sprinkle of parmesan cheese. And to me, that's that's a 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.760 nice touch. Yes, So I like that. That's my move. 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.600 So I go to the refrigerator. McBain, I grabbed the 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.720 parmer gan a cheese. I grabbed, I take it out 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:41.680 and i started sprinkling it around the pizza and I'm 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:45.320 about done, and much to my shock, I noticed that 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:52.840 the palm just didn't look right. Jesus Christ, Yeah, now, Keiman, 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.159 why Now? I did look in the bag of cheese, 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.400 and the top layer was fine. It was the proper color, 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.199 it was the proper texture of parmegana cheese. But as 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:04.320 I went underneath that top layer, there was some moldiness there. 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:08.000 And I had just covered the crust of my pizza 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:12.199 with moldy parmesan cheese. Well, you know, some people do 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:16.880 like penicillin on their pizza. Now at this point, we're 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.440 at a crossroads. What do you think I did at 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.800 this particular point. I know, damn well, you ate that pizza. 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:27.399 Damn right, absolutely correct. So so here's my move, right, 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:31.159 So I'm like, holy fuck, I mean, one am. I 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.000 I didn't have another thing at doll I didn't have 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.400 more tomato sauce. This was the one pie and I 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.960 was hungry. I hadn't eaten since Sunday and it was Tuesday. 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:44.639 So I gotta eat. And so so I'm like examining 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:47.320 the pie with my I'm getting right up with my 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.160 putting my nose in the in the dog, trying to 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:54.160 see the the moldy cheese. And so I went over 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:57.680 there and tried to remove. As they say in in gardening, 0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:59.720 you removed the dead wood, right, you cut the dead 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.800 wood out. So I'm trying to remove the cheese, the 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.280 moldy cheese. I think I got about of the moldy 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.240 cheese out and then I just gave up. I figured, well, 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.000 of moldy cheese, I think I'll be okay, and I 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.880 and I cooked it and I ate it and I'm 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.040 still alive to talk about it. So it didn't kill me. 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.520 You can't eat moldy cheese, Yeah, because I think like 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:22.480 the heat. Wouldn't the heat like get rid of the bacteria? 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.160 Is that? Isn't that how it works? I hope you're right. 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.800 I don't know. I I assume that makes sense. That's 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.520 a logical way to look at it. Now, keep in mind, 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:35.400 I did have the Tennessee trots, but I get that. Yeah, 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.359 that's what they when you have dysentery, when you get 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:41.199 to run to the bathroom. It was this organ trail. Well, no, 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:44.720 that's an old that's like a civil war term. I think. Yeah, 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:48.560 uh no, I could say Mona Zuma's revenge. Has that 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:54.320 been canceled? I don't know. Drink the water. Yeah, it's 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:57.040 whenever I fast, since I had my gallbladder taken out, 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.280 whenever I fast for a long time, it doesn't matter 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.760 what I eat, I immediately have to make a run 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.639 for the commode. So I'm not sure if it was 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:08.280 the mold or it was just my gall bladder acting 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:10.560 up after I hadn't eaten in a while. So that 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:15.800 was my pizza party foul with the moldy moldy. Gee, 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.360 now here's the thing you called a foul. I think 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.520 it's a story of redemption because you mess up the pizza, 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.800 the nice Pizza Pa, and you fixed it and you 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:28.400 still ate it. So that's a story of redemption. Ben, Well, 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:32.320