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Speaker 1: Hey, do y'all still say curved or curbed? Like if
Speaker 1: somebody curbed you, I don't even know if it's I
Speaker 1: don't even know if it's curve or curved. But essentially
Speaker 1: what we mean is maybe I'm my old head. What
Speaker 1: we mean is when you approach a young lady and
Speaker 1: she shut you down, like, oh man, you got curved.
Speaker 1: You know, they just I'm pretty sure it's curved. Probably
Speaker 1: like curb your enthusiasm. It's probably it. I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's anything more painful, because most of the time
Speaker 1: for you to get curved, it's usually because you are enthusiastic.
Speaker 1: A lot of times is when you're super confident in
Speaker 1: the movie You're finna make now. I can't speak for
Speaker 1: every young man who finally hits his awakening of the
Speaker 1: sex that he's attracted to. And I know mine when
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, I like girls, when
Speaker 1: you have to start building up the bravery to actually
Speaker 1: admit it or maybe ask this girl to dance or
Speaker 1: sit by her, or maybe even possibly get a little
Speaker 1: kiss on the cheek, you know, just you know, it
Speaker 1: was little boys, you're not really ready for like full
Speaker 1: intercourse because we're still children. I remember like rehearsing, and
Speaker 1: I have a sister that's six years older than me,
Speaker 1: so I could ask her, like, how do I say this?
Speaker 1: You know, what outfits should I wear? Like, you know,
Speaker 1: and she was like, down, to make her little brother,
Speaker 1: like you know, she wanted a little brother to be fly.
Speaker 1: So I could ask her and come up with lines
Speaker 1: and like how do I approach? What do I say?
Speaker 1: Where do I stand? Like how do I I'm nervous,
Speaker 1: I'm scared off of her to offer this little girl
Speaker 1: to giggle and run to her friends and go eh,
Speaker 1: he not even fine, just destroy. It took me three
Speaker 1: weeks to get the courage to say something to her,
Speaker 1: just with this girl to be like h like that's
Speaker 1: the child. Which I don't know if it's everybody's story,
Speaker 1: but you have to understand like me, who I went
Speaker 1: to schools in neighborhoods that were so diverse where there
Speaker 1: was just as many Filipino and Latino and you know
Speaker 1: Chinese there was such as there was so many other
Speaker 1: communities that were at the spaces I was in. Like again,
Speaker 1: I read the demographics. Most of y'all are from Cali
Speaker 1: that listen to this from the San Gabril Valley. Who
Speaker 1: I was born in South Central like I say it
Speaker 1: all the time, but I grew up in San Gavel
Speaker 1: Valley and then I went to high school in the
Speaker 1: Inland Empire and like so I you experienced so many cultures,
Speaker 1: You're exposed to so many types of girls where black
Speaker 1: dude is just not they tight. This is way too
Speaker 1: long of an intro Anyway. The point I'm trying to
Speaker 1: make is it really hurts to get curved, especially when
Speaker 1: you're really confident. And guess what Google got curved hood politics, y'all?
Speaker 1: All right, before I go into it, but look at
Speaker 1: like nerds.
Speaker 3: Bull look is like this. Bull look is like this.
Speaker 1: The look is like this, but look at like this.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, the darkest of holidays has hit. It
Speaker 1: is the one year anniversary of the attack from Hamas
Speaker 1: on Israel, which, in retaliation to such attack, unleashed the
Speaker 1: Kraken towards all of Gaza and extending Palestinian areas. Way
Speaker 1: too many people died. There was a memorial held in
Speaker 1: Israel where they played that last song before at that,
Speaker 1: you know, because the attack happened like one of the
Speaker 1: parts happened during a music festival, and the last song
Speaker 1: that was being played before the attack happened and hostages
Speaker 1: were taken and people were killed. They played that song
Speaker 1: to mark, you know, the one year anniversary of a horrible,
Speaker 1: horrible situation. And from the Israeli perspective, the city is
Speaker 1: torn because you can't argue that that wasn't you know,
Speaker 1: one of the orb if not the greatest terrorist attack
Speaker 1: that they've experienced. And I think, like, I'm not adding
Speaker 1: snark to this because it's like I mean, like I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to be real about it. I think, how
Speaker 1: do I say this? Since they've been in their mind
Speaker 1: the little engine that could the whole time, and everybody
Speaker 1: was against them, they felt like their only way to
Speaker 1: be safe is to be the aggressor, and they've continued
Speaker 1: to be the aggressor cause they feel like everybody's being
Speaker 1: aggressed to them. So a A there's a kinship to
Speaker 1: the idea that America has of itself too. You know
Speaker 1: where we say if you go in the war, you're
Speaker 1: going overseas, Like the attack is over there. Everybody's trying
Speaker 1: to come to get us, but don't nobody want to
Speaker 1: mess with us because they know won't play around. It
Speaker 1: only happened once and that was at Pearl Harborn. We
Speaker 1: blew up Pole Islands after that, so they carried in
Speaker 1: their psyche that type of sort of same vibe. But
Speaker 1: that is not to diminish the atrocities that they feel
Speaker 1: in their heart and the things that had happened, so
Speaker 1: you mark it right. On the other hand, it also
Speaker 1: marks the beginning of the absolute decimation of Gaza, with
Speaker 1: eleven thousand people dead and just a commpletely intenable living
Speaker 1: situation that has now spread. Everybody's fear has spread to
Speaker 1: Lebanon and Yemen, so and now big dog Iran has
Speaker 1: jumped in. It was what everybody that works in peacemaking
Speaker 1: was hoping wouldn't happen, that like we would get to
Speaker 1: a ceasefire, to state solution, which clearly is the only option.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand how anybody could think any other
Speaker 1: way that like this is really the only option. But
Speaker 1: with that being said, all the blood, all the carnage,
Speaker 1: all the like, let's make this happen. Gaza could not
Speaker 1: have a sort of moment to even breathe to mark
Speaker 1: the anniversary of this, because it's leveled. I mean there's
Speaker 1: like where you know, they still running for covers and
Speaker 1: is were not even letting it. They barely letting aid in,
Speaker 1: Like we got to fight to let aid in. And
Speaker 1: then with all the carnage and it be coming into
Speaker 1: a regional war, there's a ceasefire deal on the table,
Speaker 1: and then Yahoo won't accept it, and you still ain't
Speaker 1: got the hostages. All that blood and you still ain't
Speaker 1: got the hostages. So Israel as a nation is torn
Speaker 1: because they're like, fam, uh, can we keep our eyes
Speaker 1: on the prize here? I just we just want our
Speaker 1: loved ones back. What did you and ask you to
Speaker 1: blow the whole Like I ain't ask you to blow
Speaker 1: the whole city up, or it's just one of our hostages,
Speaker 1: but what is you? And then there's the other half
Speaker 1: that's like, no, we can't letting people live. And then
Speaker 1: there's the really really small deck sect of hyper conservative
Speaker 1: religious folk within the Israeli world that are like, well
Speaker 1: it's how we bring the Messiah. We gotta control this
Speaker 1: region or the Messiah ain't coming, so like no, they
Speaker 1: gotta go. So it's all that going on all in
Speaker 1: one place. The JV team had their debate switching gears.
Speaker 1: Hear the my dad can beat up your dad debate
Speaker 1: because who really cared what the vice president they because
Speaker 1: the vice president will really do nothing. Now that being said,
Speaker 1: it was more substantive than any of us would have thought,
Speaker 1: and it's one of those things where it's like, be
Speaker 1: careful what you asked for. Y'all asked for civility and substance.
Speaker 1: What you didn't ask for was truth. My niggad, the
Speaker 1: Trump ticket is getting his money's worth. He is jd.
Speaker 1: Vance understood the assignment. The assignment was to sanitize everything
Speaker 1: that Trump stands for, and even to the point of
Speaker 1: like almost like the opposite where it's like, now, we
Speaker 1: ain't say that. And then when the mic slipped up
Speaker 1: and said, well, you weren't supposed to lie fat fact
Speaker 1: check this a you revealed your cards, big dog. But JD.
Speaker 1: Vance absolutely one hundred percent understood the assignment and you
Speaker 1: cannot take that from him. He was slick, he was likable,
Speaker 1: and he didn't go on the full attack. They did
Speaker 1: the whole I agree with what we're supposed to be
Speaker 1: doing heat and he took all the smart Now, don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, I personally like dudes like that will
Speaker 1: pulse me that are too polished in every like that,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're clearly hiding something. Anyway, everything was going
Speaker 1: great until this man could not answer the January sixth question.
Speaker 1: Now did Trump lose the election? Elect question. Now, the
Speaker 1: thing is that's in some senses it's a gotcha question
Speaker 1: because we all know that man can't answer that question.
Speaker 1: Like what y'all expect this man to say? Yeah, now,
Speaker 1: Trump tripping on that one, but we gonna win this
Speaker 1: one though.
Speaker 2: He can't say.
Speaker 1: He can't do that. Y'all know he can't do that.
Speaker 1: That man can't get up there and tell the truth,
Speaker 1: like on boomdops, you better learn how to lie like me.
Speaker 1: You can't be telling the truth that you've got a lot.
Speaker 1: That'd be the end of his job. Did Trump lose
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty election? Like Nigga dues like, you can't
Speaker 1: say that. You gotta be like, look, dude, we're looking forward.
Speaker 1: But didn't y'all, and then proceeded to talk backwards. Boy,
Speaker 1: I tell you man, I love it here. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get back to it like this, all right. So
Speaker 1: last year we did an episode that was called Get
Speaker 1: Your Weight Up, and I taught y'all about antitrust and
Speaker 1: monopolies and the situation Google was facing. And it was
Speaker 1: over search engines and ads, showing how this is just
Speaker 1: a brand new world where what Google is facing especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to like search engines. You had suit
Speaker 1: being brought to them by like you know, Bing and
Speaker 1: like ass ge. That was like you're creating a monopoly.
Speaker 1: I can even giggle with the idea of like being
Speaker 1: because it's like, bro, no one uses bing. Google's a
Speaker 1: verb like it's a company, but it's also a verb.
Speaker 1: You Google something, They're like, you're a monopoly. They're like, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not like Bing is not my competition. Microsoft, ain't
Speaker 1: my competition. Full chat GBT is TikTok Amazon, I am
Speaker 1: not competing with you other browsers and search engines. Y'all lay,
Speaker 1: y'all need to get y'all weight up. And the argument
Speaker 1: was in this antitrust case, which I will back up
Speaker 1: and explain the term monopoly or antitrust and then give
Speaker 1: you a context. So their argument was, you say, we're
Speaker 1: cornering the market, we're making it impossible. But y'all could
Speaker 1: just get y'all weight up. I don't know why you
Speaker 1: mad at us for making a superior product. Now, the
Speaker 1: last time you Googled something, I'm pretty sure you got
Speaker 1: frustrated because Google's trying to do the AI thing again
Speaker 1: to keep up with chat GBT and so the searches
Speaker 1: have been I've I've had to like retype in what
Speaker 1: I'm looking for multiple times because I'm like, this used
Speaker 1: to be super easy. So, in my anecdotal opinion, it's
Speaker 1: gotten worse as they've tried to bring it AI. But
Speaker 1: the point is the case was do you have a
Speaker 1: monopoly on search and ads? And when we talked about it,
Speaker 1: at first it was being brought to the Department of Justice. Well,
Speaker 1: they have decided, yes, you have a monopoly. It's not fair,
Speaker 1: and you need to break it up. Break it up,
Speaker 1: break it up, break it up, break it up, break
Speaker 1: it up, break it up, break it up. Yeah, y'all, ratchet,
Speaker 1: y'all know that's all. Y'all got to break up your company. Now.
Speaker 1: The reason why this was so big obviously because Google's big,
Speaker 1: but it's because it harkens back to one that happened
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight Microsoft. So here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna explain to you what a monopoly is. And
Speaker 1: if you've ever sold drugs, you already know, which means
Speaker 1: that we have to talk about capitalism and the version
Speaker 1: of capitalism that America says they love and believe in.
Speaker 1: How you protect that imaginary version of capitalism, Why an
Speaker 1: antitrust is what it is, and why the government steps in,
Speaker 1: what happened with Microsoft and how that informed this Google decision,
Speaker 1: and then what Google's gonna have to do? All right,
Speaker 1: but I swear to you, just like the very foundational truth,
Speaker 1: the axiom of truth that this show is, you already
Speaker 1: noticed stuff, all right? Next, Okay, So capitalism, oftentimes we
Speaker 1: have because we live in the world we live in,
Speaker 1: we have conflated the idea of capitalism with just economics
Speaker 1: that if you sell something, it's capitalism. You have to remember,
Speaker 1: capitalism as a concept was invented now. The idea of
Speaker 1: trading some sort of commerce for goods and services is
Speaker 1: as old as puka shells, is as old as when
Speaker 1: we moved from just bartering to yeah, there is currency
Speaker 1: and the currency and I'm giving you this currency and
Speaker 1: you're going to return back to me a good in service.
Speaker 1: The institution that we talk about that includes a supply
Speaker 1: chain where the product is being created in multiple different factories,
Speaker 1: that's being cobbled together into one piece. The system that
Speaker 1: says each of these people that work in these factories
Speaker 1: is indust your revolution type situation that puts like, if
Speaker 1: you're going to take a pencil, the eraser tip is
Speaker 1: made somewhere else, but that place is really only getting
Speaker 1: raw materials from another place, and those raw materials are
Speaker 1: being sent there, and then the people carrying that stuff in,
Speaker 1: the people that transfer it in the truck is a
Speaker 1: whole other company who brings this raw materials to this place,
Speaker 1: and then that place has to buy the equipment from
Speaker 1: a whole other company who makes the equipment for you
Speaker 1: to process this thing to make the eraser tip. But still,
Speaker 1: if you're the pencil company, you have a contract with
Speaker 1: them with a wood company who's got a contract with
Speaker 1: a timber company who's got a contract with a lad company,
Speaker 1: or a graphite company. You just the people that put
Speaker 1: it all together, and then it's a whole other marketing
Speaker 1: team that just was hired by the brand name of
Speaker 1: the pencil to put it all in one place. And
Speaker 1: then you got to hire a shopify right, a three
Speaker 1: pl and all of these people have employees, and the
Speaker 1: price of that pencil is cobbled together in the way
Speaker 1: that makes sure or supposed to make sure that everybody
Speaker 1: every company that was involved in this all got to
Speaker 1: pay their employees, bring that all together, get it on
Speaker 1: the shelf, and then they charge you a dollar ninety
Speaker 1: nine per pencil. Now, if you're making one million pencils,
Speaker 1: it may not have cost you the company they selling
Speaker 1: it for a dollar ninety nine. It cost the company,
Speaker 1: I don't know, hopefully if they're doing it right, two cents.
Speaker 1: So the cost of the pencil. You hear, all them
Speaker 1: companies all had to make their money. But if you
Speaker 1: make enough of them, you can lower the cost that
Speaker 1: it takes to make the pencil so that when it
Speaker 1: gets to the consumer, you only paying two dollars. And
Speaker 1: that two dollars, you know, multiplied by one hundred thousand consumers,
Speaker 1: is supposed to be able to make sure that everybody's
Speaker 1: happy and everybody wins. Now, the capitalism that we exist
Speaker 1: in is to say, okay, best product at the best
Speaker 1: price wins. So if somebody got a better pencil and
Speaker 1: they only charging a dollar fifty, the idea is, damn,
Speaker 1: you made it cheaper and better, so everybody's gonna buy that.
Speaker 1: So then what do you do. You have to figure
Speaker 1: out how to make your pencil better and cheaper. Hopefully
Speaker 1: you could charge a dollar twenty five right all the
Speaker 1: way down to where get this the term of elasticity,
Speaker 1: to where the product is cheap enough to make to
Speaker 1: where everybody makes money. There's a number. Now you have
Speaker 1: to enter the concept of branding. Okay, I work. I'm
Speaker 1: a brand ambassador for a company called mer. Right, y'all
Speaker 1: know the people that make my mugs and the poor
Speaker 1: Gami's all the coffee stuff is this company called mer. Now.
Speaker 1: Mir got a lot of clients too, And Mir was
Speaker 1: telling us, telling me about one of their clients for
Speaker 1: which I will not names. And because I ain't trying
Speaker 1: to worry, I ain't trying to mess up my money.
Speaker 1: This company is able to sell things at an absurd
Speaker 1: price point. But we looking at it. But Maman and
Speaker 1: Miir was looking at it, was like, okay, you're sourcing.
Speaker 1: There's no way in the world you're sourcing at a
Speaker 1: different place than everybody else's or you're sourcing at the
Speaker 1: same place. And he was like and the owner or
Speaker 1: the buyer was like, yeah, yeah, source is the same
Speaker 1: place as as our competition. They charged three ninety nine,
Speaker 1: we charge eight ninety nine. It's called branding. So just
Speaker 1: the power of the branding, the fact that your name
Speaker 1: is on it. Let me give y'all a little game
Speaker 1: about Kirkland and Costco brand. Now, Costco ain't paying me
Speaker 1: for this, but I wish they was the Kirkland brand. Liquor,
Speaker 1: the tequila, the whiskey, all that that they got in there.
Speaker 1: It's they bought a recipe from I believe it's ego
Speaker 1: rare like makers Mart. I believe they're whiskey is makers Mark.
Speaker 1: They just bought a recipe from them and just white
Speaker 1: labeled it. It's actually very it's very good whiskey. It's
Speaker 1: just named Kirkland brilliant. So if you smart, rather than
Speaker 1: buying the label name, you getting the same product. It's
Speaker 1: just cheaper. So now you take when you talk about
Speaker 1: a national economy, you take all the pieces that we're
Speaker 1: talking about, if we're talking about again capitalism, You take
Speaker 1: every person that is on all them jobs, how much
Speaker 1: money they make, how much money is coming into the company,
Speaker 1: how much money that company is spending, how much money
Speaker 1: the people that work at that company are spending right
Speaker 1: the products for which they buy, how much them products
Speaker 1: cost to make, and how much profit those products produce.
Speaker 1: How much of that money is going out to other countries,
Speaker 1: how much of that money is coming back into the
Speaker 1: consumers pockets? Because once the company makes money, the people
Speaker 1: that work at that company all get paid, and then
Speaker 1: they buy other products, which brings the money back. So
Speaker 1: you take the totality of all that, the combination of
Speaker 1: all those factors all try to get you to spend
Speaker 1: your dollar with them them competing with each Other's called
Speaker 1: free market capitalism. All of that is capitalism. And what's
Speaker 1: capitalism's goal is, if you haven't figured this out yet,
Speaker 1: the greatest amount of profit for the least amount of cost. Now,
Speaker 1: how do you pull that off? If that is the
Speaker 1: goal of capitalism, will you cut costs? Where do you
Speaker 1: cut costs? Most of the time, your highest cost is
Speaker 1: your employees. It's payroll. That's your highest cost. So you
Speaker 1: pay your workers at least as possible. Why did America
Speaker 1: becomes up a superstar, so a superpower so early, Well,
Speaker 1: they didn't pay they workers at all. It was called slavery.
Speaker 1: You was only paying for the raw materials. You only
Speaker 1: had to pay for the land. You had to pay
Speaker 1: for the workers. Of course, you're gonna get rich by
Speaker 1: no stretch of the imagination, is the goal of capitalism
Speaker 1: itself human flourishing. Now, that might be the person that
Speaker 1: functions with in the system. You might want to approach
Speaker 1: this in a way that centers humanity in the sense
Speaker 1: that you're paying your workers well, you're ethically sourcing, so
Speaker 1: that means you're setting a price point that allows for
Speaker 1: you to pay workers well, to treat the environment well.
Speaker 1: You have things like certified b corps. At some point
Speaker 1: I'm bring Mahomie brian On here to talk about what
Speaker 1: it means to be an ethical capitalistic company, which some
Speaker 1: would argue is impossible. I might agree with you, but again,
Speaker 1: like I say all the time, you know, she might
Speaker 1: as well swim. Be as truthful as possible. Like I said,
Speaker 1: we're all on a big corporation. This is iHeart media. Like,
Speaker 1: it's not be delusional, you know what I'm saying. Corporation guys,
Speaker 1: So we're not delusional. But there's a way to be
Speaker 1: as ethical as you possibly can. But that's not the
Speaker 1: goal of capitalism. That might be the goal of the person.
Speaker 1: There might be a advancement of a society to where yeah,
Speaker 1: well multiple people now have jobs. Now which means like
Speaker 1: the way of life is just better across the board
Speaker 1: for everybody because now everybody's employed. But one would argue that,
Speaker 1: like we weren't starving before we had jobs, Like before
Speaker 1: there was a factory, before you bought your food at
Speaker 1: a grocery store. You just grew your own every For
Speaker 1: most of human history, people just had like small gardens
Speaker 1: like where you just and you just traded back and
Speaker 1: forth where it's like, okay, we grow squashed. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna walk across the street, go visit another family over
Speaker 1: there in that other village. I know they grow spinach. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm gonn bring them some squash.
Speaker 1: They bring me some spinaches. It's fine, Like we all
Speaker 1: we were all right before we had to like work
Speaker 1: for like cotton pieces of dead men to turn in
Speaker 1: for our waters, to work in our houses. Because somebody
Speaker 1: bought the lake and owns the clouds. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you notice. You can own the clouds, you can
Speaker 1: own the land rights and all of the sky and
Speaker 1: atmosphere above it. Because capitalism is crazy right now anyway,
Speaker 1: I haven't even talked about antitrust yet. This is absurd.
Speaker 1: So all that to say, in our system, at least
Speaker 1: in America, we tried to set up this situation to
Speaker 1: say that if we keep this institution pure enough, it
Speaker 1: will police itself. And how you do that because people
Speaker 1: really make their decisions by their purchases. People buy what
Speaker 1: they want, and if you charge too much but your
Speaker 1: brand is trash and we don't believe you, people won't
Speaker 1: stop buying it. That's a price elasticity. What's the highest
Speaker 1: you could charge before people are going to be like,
Speaker 1: all right, you don't lost your mind. This brand ain't
Speaker 1: worth it, which is how you gain the system. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like, you make your brand
Speaker 1: worth it, but you charge as high as you can,
Speaker 1: not as cheap as you can. You take somebody like
Speaker 1: Arizona Ic, they charge as little as they can. That's
Speaker 1: their brand though for them it work. But anyway, we
Speaker 1: as in the Royal weed me. But the concept is
Speaker 1: you need to have competition in the market. You can't
Speaker 1: just be the only person selling a thing. You can't.
Speaker 1: You can defeature competitors by having a better product at
Speaker 1: a better price point, but you can't just box them
Speaker 1: out because when you box them out. When you're the
Speaker 1: only option, there is no reason for you to not
Speaker 1: price GOUG and the quality of your product doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be great because you the only people. That's what
Speaker 1: I mean by drug dealer. You trying to be the
Speaker 1: only connect. If you the only connect, you've charged the
Speaker 1: people toever you won't they hooked on the product. You
Speaker 1: could step on your product if you want too, because
Speaker 1: what they gonna do where you go go? I'm your
Speaker 1: only option. I just to feel like that with gas prices,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, what am I gonna do? There's no
Speaker 1: difference to me between mobile and arco. I still have
Speaker 1: to go to the thing, or I don't go anywhere
Speaker 1: like I now. As a side note, I went to
Speaker 1: Rhymefest this past weekend at the Coliseum and I took
Speaker 1: the train and I was like, no, native, nobody I
Speaker 1: know takes trains because it just don't go enough places.
Speaker 1: But this time it was like I didn't have to
Speaker 1: switch once, and I was like, bro, why don't every
Speaker 1: time I take the train? Every time I take the
Speaker 1: metro in La I'd be like, why don't I do this?
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe there is an alternative anyway, So being
Speaker 1: mad over gas prices. I'm like, what do what you
Speaker 1: gonna not go fill up your tank? What you're gonna
Speaker 1: You're gonna not go to work? Like I felt so hopeless.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a monopoly, you monopolize. So the
Speaker 1: idea was in the anti trust law. I don't know
Speaker 1: why they call it that, they just do. Antitrust law
Speaker 1: is saying we do not believe in the American economics
Speaker 1: system that it is legal or even in the spirit
Speaker 1: of who we are as a nation, that any one
Speaker 1: company should have a have a monopoly over a business.
Speaker 1: There needs to be competition, meaning there needs to be
Speaker 1: other companies that are pushing you, because what that does
Speaker 1: for the consumer is it means we're getting the best
Speaker 1: products because y'all are fighting against each other for our dollars.
Speaker 1: They're not concerned with just one company success. We're talking
Speaker 1: overall success of the entire country because they looking at
Speaker 1: it again as the economy as capitalism capital scene, not
Speaker 1: just are you doing all right? We mean the whole country.
Speaker 1: So the whole country gotta win, which means that I
Speaker 1: don't really care if your one company is doing I
Speaker 1: we need a whole thing to work in theory because
Speaker 1: you could go get the off brand stuff. You grew
Speaker 1: up like us. Oh man, there was cheerios and then
Speaker 1: there was Maulto meal. There was tasty os. You feel me?
Speaker 1: I was like them is nasty. I used to get
Speaker 1: so mad when my mom brought that off brand Cereal.
Speaker 1: I wanted the name brand Cereal. It was cheaper, but
Speaker 1: that ain't like that ain't work.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: What that meant was that made cheerios. Because my mom
Speaker 1: sometimes was like, I ain't buying the cheerios. It costs
Speaker 1: too much. So that means the cheerios because there's such
Speaker 1: thing as multi meal and tasteios, fruit rings not fruit loops,
Speaker 1: because those things existed. That meant that, like yo, cheerios,
Speaker 1: gotta work harder to make sure that they products stay
Speaker 1: bomb and at the price point is something that we
Speaker 1: willing to pay. That's why there's one hundred different car
Speaker 1: companies while they fighting for our attention, Why everybody racing
Speaker 1: to get an electric car like thing with Tesla's They
Speaker 1: was just there first. Well, actually Saturn was there first.
Speaker 1: You should see a documentary called Who Killed the Electric Car? Anyway,
Speaker 1: but they not the only ones. They couldn't They couldn't
Speaker 1: get to electric car and shut the door. There's companies
Speaker 1: like Rivian who they trucks are amazing, you know, but
Speaker 1: there's there's other companies. There are other people making electric cars.
Speaker 1: So it's like, yo, get your weight up, like, do
Speaker 1: something great now. It could become a monopoly if they
Speaker 1: do this, they take all the road mapping that they've
Speaker 1: done with their self driving, get it perfect, and then
Speaker 1: make sure every a new electric car has to buy
Speaker 1: their software for the roadmapping of self driving. Like if
Speaker 1: every new electric car had Tesla's software in there from
Speaker 1: for their self driving cars, which right now would be
Speaker 1: a disaster. But if they continue to develop what they
Speaker 1: got and then they box out everybody else, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: matter if it's a disaster or not, because every car
Speaker 1: comes equipped with their software. That would be a monopoly,
Speaker 1: to which they could argue, I mean, you're welcome to
Speaker 1: uninstall it and put your own one in there. Do
Speaker 1: you know how to uninstall software on your car? Are
Speaker 1: you going to google it? Think about the dial up modem, sounds,
Speaker 1: your aim user name. We all got sidekicks, but I
Speaker 1: don't even know if we got sidekick. It was in
Speaker 1: pagers there. You know what I'm saying, you about to
Speaker 1: have a sidekick, and boyd, the early Internet feels like
Speaker 1: Caveman energy. So Microsoft, led by Bill Gates was young,
Speaker 1: scrappy startup, you know. You I remember like at this
Speaker 1: point McIntosh. Those was just the computers in the school lab.
Speaker 1: Like when you went to the computer lab at school,
Speaker 1: there was these funny look at things that we just
Speaker 1: had to learn when we did our typing classes, you know,
Speaker 1: you just did it on that. So Microsoft at the
Speaker 1: time was developing Windows, right, so Windows Night, you know,
Speaker 1: Windows ninety five and that's that, which was the operating system,
Speaker 1: which you guys know already. And then Microsoft Office so spreadsheet,
Speaker 1: you know, PowerPoint, Microsoft Word and everything that comes just
Speaker 1: Microsoftice like just mic It's Windows, like it's Microsoft. What
Speaker 1: they started doing because Bill Gates ain't dumb, is he
Speaker 1: was taken over while while while Apple and them was
Speaker 1: working towards school and fun and stuff like that, Microsoft
Speaker 1: was taken over the corporate world and every company, every
Speaker 1: you know, work computer was a Windows and Microsoft Office.
Speaker 1: And then eventually once we hit Windows ninety five, you
Speaker 1: know that whole like you know, the the Apple like
Speaker 1: you know, sessions where they launched new products like Windows
Speaker 1: invented that like that was Microsoft, Like it was just goofy.
Speaker 1: Even the user video, the training video for how to
Speaker 1: use Microsoft Office and Windows ninety five had believe it
Speaker 1: or not, actors from Friends from the show Friends was
Speaker 1: on it. Jay Leno did the monologue like it was
Speaker 1: the biggest thing in the world because because it was
Speaker 1: just change. You gotta remember this is where tech was.
Speaker 1: And what else that they did that was amazing was
Speaker 1: if you bought a laptop, you gotta remember there was
Speaker 1: a million different types of laptops. You remember HP, you
Speaker 1: remember Acer, You could get any type of just like
Speaker 1: before the iPod there was zooms, like there was a
Speaker 1: million different other products. And then somebody takes over and
Speaker 1: just wins. The thing what Microsoft did was they cut
Speaker 1: a deal with PC and laptop companies and was like, yo,
Speaker 1: so let us be yo default operating system. So if
Speaker 1: anybody wants to use another operating system and OS like
Speaker 1: a Macintosh, you got to take all that stuff off
Speaker 1: and put a new one in. Now, MACINTOS was smart
Speaker 1: enough to say, no, our operating system works on our
Speaker 1: products only, but set that to a side. Right now,
Speaker 1: Microsoft was like cool, y'all can have your own little
Speaker 1: weird egg shape computers will take over every other computer
Speaker 1: on earth. And that's kind of what they did. They
Speaker 1: just cut a deal. And it was just like yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: like yo, if you're selling a laptop, you're selling a desktop.
Speaker 1: It's got Microsoft operating system already installed. So we already
Speaker 1: got a deal. So we didn't even got to sell
Speaker 1: it to the consumers. It's already sold to the manufacturer.
Speaker 1: Kind of brilliant. I mean, why wouldn't you do that? Now,
Speaker 1: while this is happening, something else was being invented, a
Speaker 1: little thing called the World Wide Web. The Internet was
Speaker 1: being made around this time. Sorry about that. Next, Okay,
Speaker 1: so now that the Internet's being made, you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta buy your modems. What nobody thought about, because you
Speaker 1: have to remember, nobody knew what the Internet was, is
Speaker 1: you have to have a way to get on there. Browser. No,
Speaker 1: you need a browser. It's so stupid, Like it's so stupid.
Speaker 1: I have to point that out right. And because there
Speaker 1: was no separate apps for your emails or for there
Speaker 1: was no apps, the apps were Microsoft. You need a
Speaker 1: browser to get on the internet. The browser, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of different types. There's Navigator, there was Netscape,
Speaker 1: and at the time, that's all the Netscape made. They
Speaker 1: were the only browsers. I mean, it was fine, Like
Speaker 1: what else did we know you got on the Internet
Speaker 1: with on a Netscape browser? But your little AOL disc,
Speaker 1: which we're gonna talk about in a second bunch. Your
Speaker 1: little AOL disc, you popped it in, you clicked the
Speaker 1: disc and then it would throw the Netscape like you
Speaker 1: just that was the only how you opened the Internet
Speaker 1: was the of course, now we you know we got Chrome, Firefox, Safari,
Speaker 1: like we got those things. But you gotta remember, like
Speaker 1: we didn't none of those things. We didn't know what
Speaker 1: those things meant. Like one of those things existed. Netscape
Speaker 1: was how you got to the Internet. Bill Gates ain't stupid.
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, this the future. We need a
Speaker 1: hold up, we need a browser. His browser was called
Speaker 1: Internet Explorer. That's how you got on the Internet. His
Speaker 1: browser was trash right, because they was too busy making
Speaker 1: too many different things. They was making Laptouser was making office,
Speaker 1: they was making windows. It was making all these different things.
Speaker 1: It didn't really make browsers. But he's not stupid. He
Speaker 1: knew that this was the future. So the browser got
Speaker 1: better and better and better, and then he realized, like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I have a million vendors I work with.
Speaker 1: Every laptop already has my product in it. Stupid, why
Speaker 1: don't I bundle Internet Explorer with it? As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, I'll throw an Internet Exploorer free. It just
Speaker 1: comes with It comes with Microsoft, it comes with Windows.
Speaker 1: Windows is already on every laptop. I'll just it's so stupid, like, duh,
Speaker 1: I don't even have to sell it. I'm already nobody.
Speaker 1: Can you name another word processing? What's the mac with numbers?
Speaker 1: Adobe pages? I'm saying, even now, we don't use it.
Speaker 1: Maybe you write in Google Docs, which we're gonna get
Speaker 1: to later, but nobody writes it like it's it's you
Speaker 1: use word almost two decades right, like you what else
Speaker 1: is there? So they were like, duh, let's just add
Speaker 1: our product. Let's just add Explorer to every laptop. Obviously.
Speaker 1: Netscape's like, well, wait a damn minute, bro, are you serious?
Speaker 1: So you're just gonna sell the product for free? Well, like,
Speaker 1: I mean there's nothing, Well I mean, what cash, You're
Speaker 1: already on every laptop? Like this is they were like,
Speaker 1: you're breaking antitrust laws. So they wrote a letter to
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice like yo, fam, I can't like,
Speaker 1: can't nobody compete with this? This ain't right two hundred
Speaker 1: pays letter. Justice Department was like, huh, you might be
Speaker 1: on the something because like you're like, this is what
Speaker 1: seems to us, like this is anti competition, Like you
Speaker 1: just boxed everybody out, like you just gave everybody the
Speaker 1: product for freech gave everybody to wait free. Somebody come
Speaker 1: in your hood and just passing out weed for free.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, how can I run a business? Like
Speaker 1: I don't understand, like if if every car come through
Speaker 1: your neighborhood has already got a vapor in it, Like well,
Speaker 1: I mean what I'm supposed to do? Why you think
Speaker 1: the gas company so mad? Or why you think these
Speaker 1: oil companies so mad about electric cars because it's like, oh, nigga,
Speaker 1: I don't need you no more, Like wait a minute,
Speaker 1: this is leading us to obsolescence. But they're but but
Speaker 1: what's specifically about an anti trust is or this monopoly
Speaker 1: is like this is the same product, and you guys
Speaker 1: are like this is David and Goliath out this mug
Speaker 1: like you already like there's no I can't compete with this.
Speaker 1: This is like there is no competition. I don't want
Speaker 1: to get into the like operator system business, like we
Speaker 1: make an Internet browser and you're just giving yours away
Speaker 1: for free and even if people don't want it, ah,
Speaker 1: which is where we get what has to do with
Speaker 1: Google Even if people don't want it, it just comes
Speaker 1: with the lap So of course, like just the psychology
Speaker 1: of it is like, well, this is the one that
Speaker 1: come with it. So like why would I go out
Speaker 1: of my way unless I'm a tech geek, why would
Speaker 1: I go out of my way? It's just it come
Speaker 1: with it. We don't know enough about the Internet to
Speaker 1: have a preference about it. We don't know about incognito
Speaker 1: like that stuff don't exist no more or yet, So
Speaker 1: what difference does it make? All right, let's Internet Explorer.
Speaker 1: And it made sense to us because it was like
Speaker 1: or to the it made sense to the consumer because
Speaker 1: it's like, well it's made from the same company that
Speaker 1: when I open the laptop, that's how it runs. They
Speaker 1: was like, yo, this is unjust like this ain't they
Speaker 1: can do whatever they want. And I remember remember the
Speaker 1: browser was trashed like it wasn't it wasn't that good
Speaker 1: of a browser, Like it just like what do you
Speaker 1: I don't know what I can I mean, And they
Speaker 1: had no incentive on making it better per se, because
Speaker 1: they done already sold the product completely. They didn't already
Speaker 1: made day money off off Windows and off office. So
Speaker 1: there's no like you've cornered the market. There's no there's
Speaker 1: there's you, no one can compete with you. So they
Speaker 1: brought that case to the Department of Justice. Netscape did
Speaker 1: so Netscape bring brings brings a case to the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice. They was like just like I just explained,
Speaker 1: like yo, this is a monopoly dog, Like there's nothing
Speaker 1: we could do about it, Like I mean, what are
Speaker 1: we gonna do. It's already on your laptop. I bet
Speaker 1: you open your door you get a new computer today,
Speaker 1: bet you it's already there. Like how do I compete
Speaker 1: with that? Like that's not what am I supposed to do.
Speaker 1: They bring in Microsoft to be like okay, well, and
Speaker 1: this is like legendary, like so Bill Gates and and
Speaker 1: Microsoft come in and Microsoft was just like okay, that's funny.
Speaker 1: Wait what wait are y'all serious? Hold up this. There's
Speaker 1: no way in the world you're serious right now? What
Speaker 1: did you What you're saying is absolutely ridiculous. Let me
Speaker 1: get this straight. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold hold on,
Speaker 1: let me let me get this straight. We made a product,
Speaker 1: we made smart business moves, We used our connections, we
Speaker 1: developed a new product. We took our own product, bundled
Speaker 1: it with our other own product, and use the connections
Speaker 1: that we took years to develop. And you saying that's
Speaker 1: a problem. What you mean, like, what is the problem?
Speaker 1: You can't possibly be or you're so we're smart. You're
Speaker 1: punishing me for beists. What are you talking to You're
Speaker 1: saying this is anti capitalists. I don't understand. So should
Speaker 1: our products up? Should we not try what you want
Speaker 1: us to? Not make money? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: This is absurd? Fuck you mean we made a product
Speaker 1: that we hustled. I don't understand. Tell them foods to
Speaker 1: get their weight up. Ain't nothing stopping you from finding
Speaker 1: a computer? You could You could approach them with the
Speaker 1: same contract we approached them with, get your weight up.
Speaker 1: I don't understand. We approach these people, We approach these manufacturers.
Speaker 1: They could have said no, they said yes, what do
Speaker 1: you want me to do? You want me to tell
Speaker 1: the consumers don't buy our product? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Absolutely ridiculous, was Microsoft's argument. The problem was they just
Speaker 1: walked in super smug and super arrogant, and they were
Speaker 1: just like I'm saying, like we smarter than everyone It
Speaker 1: was our fault. We're smarter than everybody else. Apartment just
Speaker 1: ain't like that. Dain't like your little attitude. They asked
Speaker 1: him very very direct questions, like Yo, do you remember
Speaker 1: this email? They pulling up emails where them Foods was
Speaker 1: talking this is the first time that was like a
Speaker 1: part of like because I remember emails just now were born,
Speaker 1: pulling up emails where they were like knife the Baby
Speaker 1: like talking about like really we're trying to kill Netscape,
Speaker 1: like that's our goal, Like we're actually trying to get
Speaker 1: like just cutthroat like Silicon Valley like og Like, no,
Speaker 1: we're actually trying to kill kill it. They was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you remember this email? He was like no, Like you
Speaker 1: don't remember the one? You just replied He's like, no,
Speaker 1: I remember it. It was just a jerk about it.
Speaker 1: Like they were like, hey, uh, did you have any
Speaker 1: concern about any other companies. He was like, what, I
Speaker 1: don't understand the question. It was like what what don't
Speaker 1: you understand? He's like, what do you mean by concern?
Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean by that? And they
Speaker 1: were like do you know what concern means? Like I
Speaker 1: know what it means. I don't know what you mean
Speaker 1: by that. It was like, sir, do you okay? Just
Speaker 1: this like smug, I'm smarter than you, I'm ten steps
Speaker 1: ahead of you. Just it just turned everybody out, but
Speaker 1: they're Ultimately their point was Okay, dude, you can't punish
Speaker 1: us because their product sucks, like that can't be that
Speaker 1: can't possibly be our fault. We're good at business. This
Speaker 1: is what happened. Department Adjustice was like, no, that's a monopoly.
Speaker 1: Y'all gotta break this company up because the straw that
Speaker 1: broke the camera back was carrying office and windows with Explorer.
Speaker 1: That's the part that did it. Because it's like you've
Speaker 1: made now nobody has any other options. That's the same
Speaker 1: example I was given with Tesla, because the point is,
Speaker 1: on general principles, consumers are supposed to have options, and
Speaker 1: the argument is having options keeps everybody in check, right,
Speaker 1: because if you have options, that's gonna force you to
Speaker 1: make the better product. And if you baking the better product,
Speaker 1: that make all of America look good, consumers are happy.
Speaker 1: Money is flowing, right, that's the argument. And again using
Speaker 1: the Testla as an example, like I just said, right now,
Speaker 1: then I just say that I'm sorry, I'm just talking
Speaker 1: if every electric car in the future, if you want
Speaker 1: to do self driving mode, you have to use this
Speaker 1: because it's the default setting. And this gives Tesla no
Speaker 1: incentive to like they could charge every car company whatever
Speaker 1: they want, because who else you're gonna go to, which
Speaker 1: means that that is going to raise the prices for
Speaker 1: all of our cars, which means it's gonna ranse the
Speaker 1: price for chips and all this good stuff. You're just like,
Speaker 1: there's no like, this doesn't help nobody. This just makes
Speaker 1: you by yourself rich and all of us got to
Speaker 1: suffer by it. So that's that's the theory. Nobody's happy
Speaker 1: with that except for y'all. And we just decided as
Speaker 1: a nation back in the seventeen hundreds that we wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna be like that. In theory. Now, what they told
Speaker 1: them that they had to do was break the company up.
Speaker 1: You have to put Windows in one place as one
Speaker 1: company in office as another company. Is that how you
Speaker 1: understand Microsoft? Of course not, because that didn't happen. Essentially,
Speaker 1: what they did was just they paid the fines, they
Speaker 1: did what they had to do, and then they just
Speaker 1: promised to not be jerks. This really really ain't nothing happened.
Speaker 1: So ultimately nothing changed. Netscape ended up selling to AOL.
Speaker 1: Microsoft just had this ruling stand that they were operating
Speaker 1: as a monopoly. But since God is good and just
Speaker 1: when last time you opened then Internet Explorer browser. Now,
Speaker 1: this is what the Department of Justice was considering when
Speaker 1: they looked at this Google case. Now let's talk about
Speaker 1: specifically the ruling. Now, remember Google, the company is called
Speaker 1: alphabet for whatever reason. The ruling was that they illegally
Speaker 1: monopolized the search engine market. Now, and here's how they
Speaker 1: did it. Now, they did it the same way Microsoft
Speaker 1: did it, in the sense that you just if you're
Speaker 1: a software company, duh, make deals with hardware companies. So
Speaker 1: what Google did was like, I don't care if you
Speaker 1: using Chrome, you if even if you use Safari, whatever
Speaker 1: phone you got when you open it, make a deal
Speaker 1: with us where you automatically your search engine goes to Google.
Speaker 1: When the last time you said I'm gonna bing something,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask Jeeves something, No, you google it. So
Speaker 1: they made deals with phonemakers and other hardware folks to
Speaker 1: be like, look, just let us be your default browser.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: You all know, you could go into your phone, you
Speaker 1: could go into your settings and say, like, I want
Speaker 1: this other thing to be the default. But who's gonna
Speaker 1: do that? Some people do, like some of y'all folks
Speaker 1: who just are like anti iPhone because you believe in freedom,
Speaker 1: you want to Android, which is just another company, Like
Speaker 1: I don't understand how y'all don't understand that, but your
Speaker 1: belief is you want to be able to customize it
Speaker 1: in the way that you want to customize it, because
Speaker 1: app will tell you what to do. And one of
Speaker 1: the things that Apple tell you to do is like
Speaker 1: it's automatically gonna go to a Google. Now, with that
Speaker 1: being automatically your search engine and them gathering a trillion
Speaker 1: kajillion mega coad billion probably flowbally fillion megabits of information
Speaker 1: on us, they can sell ad spaces. So if you
Speaker 1: are a person like me who make they living online.
Speaker 1: I mean you have to. You have to use the
Speaker 1: Google market, you have to use their ad spaces, you
Speaker 1: have to do search engine optimization, you have to be
Speaker 1: able to show up in their ad revenue space because
Speaker 1: that's where everybody at Why the hell would you buy
Speaker 1: an ad at Binga? What is that gonna do for you?
Speaker 1: And if and since they're the only people in town,
Speaker 1: they're the only people that really makes sense to spend
Speaker 1: your money on, they could charge you whatever they want.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why terraform cobrew wasn't on Amazon
Speaker 1: because I would lose two dollars per can, like I
Speaker 1: would you like I would be paying them like there's
Speaker 1: no But at the same time, terrify and call brew
Speaker 1: out of money. If you went to the website, it
Speaker 1: ain't no coffee there because I'm out of money. Un
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, Like they make it where I mean,
Speaker 1: what are your other options? That's that phrase, like what's
Speaker 1: my other option? That is a monopoly? Now what Google
Speaker 1: argued was the same thing and Microsoft argued, which was like, fam,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for being good at my business, but people
Speaker 1: can do whatever they want. We just happened to try
Speaker 1: to give people an offer they came to use. Now,
Speaker 1: what was interesting this time was the Supreme Court brought
Speaker 1: up not just x's and o's. It wasn't just business
Speaker 1: and like nerdery around the law. They brought up psychology.
Speaker 1: And it's this concept called the psychology of the default. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: let me say it right, the power of default. Now,
Speaker 1: you and I I don't even have to explain that.
Speaker 1: You understand when something is just your default setting you
Speaker 1: just after a while because something just becomes so normal
Speaker 1: you don't even think about that there are other alternatives,
Speaker 1: like you'd have to go out of your way to
Speaker 1: do that. That's the default. And what they were arguing
Speaker 1: is that is proof of a monopoly in our brains.
Speaker 1: Google's a verb despite the quality of Google, because you
Speaker 1: probably experienced the same thing I'm experiencing when you try
Speaker 1: to Google something. It's like because of AAI thing, I'm like, y'all,
Speaker 1: your product's getting worse. Now, that's probably because we're old
Speaker 1: and we're not searching on TikTok, which is where the
Speaker 1: rest of the people search, which was Google's defense. Google's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Netscape or ask jeeves I'm worried
Speaker 1: about talk like that's a search engine, and they're like, fam, no,
Speaker 1: it's not. What are you talking about. The psychology or
Speaker 1: the power of the default is when your brand is
Speaker 1: so strong that you just don't think of you don't
Speaker 1: even think of course there's alternatives, you don't even think
Speaker 1: of it, which is like a new strategy to argue
Speaker 1: that somebody has a monopoly. So what's the solution. The
Speaker 1: solution is to break up the company. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: usually what it means. Now, Like I told you before,
Speaker 1: what happened with Microsoft was basically like they were supposed
Speaker 1: to split up Microsoft Office from from Windows. So that's
Speaker 1: that was the plan for Google. It's like you, I remember,
Speaker 1: this is a alphabet's a two trillion dollar company. So
Speaker 1: one of the suggestions was like divest divesting the Android
Speaker 1: operating system was like the most frequently discussed option by
Speaker 1: the Justice Department's attorney. And then some were suggesting the
Speaker 1: force of the ad words like you have to sell
Speaker 1: that and Google gotta let go of that program, right,
Speaker 1: the search ad program, right, a divestment from that from
Speaker 1: its Chrome web browser. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: they haven't landed on an actual verdict as to how
Speaker 1: to solve this. They've just said, no, you violated antitrust laws.
Speaker 1: You want have to break up this company, just curved them. Now,
Speaker 1: things like this is where your super conservative capitalists argues
Speaker 1: is a problem because it seems as though this is
Speaker 1: not free market capitalism. They're like, let the consumer decide.
Speaker 1: We just did good business and the government shouldn't interfere.
Speaker 1: These are the same people that don't want the EPA
Speaker 1: to exist. You know, so if there's mad coal's disease
Speaker 1: and your beef, they like, people will stop buying it,
Speaker 1: so just leave us alone. That's their argument, Like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean till everybody else get their weight up. They
Speaker 1: don't want no interference, which I guess I would understand
Speaker 1: too if I owned a company and was making a
Speaker 1: kajillion dollars. But I'm a consumer that really just want
Speaker 1: to be able to have good products, afford products we have,
Speaker 1: and not hear somebody like Jeff Bezos in his rocket
Speaker 1: that looked like a penis who didn't even actually make
Speaker 1: it in the space and then to say, hey, you
Speaker 1: guys did this by buying stuff, like don't nobody want
Speaker 1: to see that like. Okay, listen, here's the underbelly. We know,
Speaker 1: all right. The thing is, we ain't got no choice.
Speaker 1: Amazon might be next in this. This is the deal
Speaker 1: we've made without having an option to make this deal.
Speaker 1: We know we're making y'all rich, but we also need
Speaker 1: to live. And sometimes if you that person man the
Speaker 1: consumer like us, it kind of feel good that there's
Speaker 1: some big homies that might be able to come in
Speaker 1: and say, hey, y'all, don't get to treat the little
Speaker 1: hummies like that, because and that's some good stuff hood politics, y'all.
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Speaker 1: to you. If you understand urban living, you understand politics.
Speaker 1: These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all
Speaker 1: next week. Words are funny. That's how I'm opening this
Speaker 1: because look, they're sound that we just decided meant stuff
Speaker 1: to the point of where sounds can make you take
Speaker 1: somebody life. And sometimes the same sound can mean different
Speaker 1: things depending on their spelling their context. Give an example,
Speaker 1: when black people say barbecue, we could be talking about
Speaker 1: three different things. We could be talking about the food
Speaker 1: barbecue we could be talking about as in like the
Speaker 1: style of cooking barbecue. The food we could be talking
Speaker 1: about the actual act of cooking that food. To barbecue,
Speaker 1: we could be talking about an event. We are going
Speaker 1: to the barbecue. You not invited to the barbecue. The
Speaker 1: what the East called a cookout, we called a barbecue
Speaker 1: out here out west. You know. It's the same with
Speaker 1: the Latinos. Like with Mexicans. They say the kasada, they
Speaker 1: mean one of three things. They mean the act of grilling.
Speaker 1: We are going to have it. Cardoyna SAIDA. That is
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a barbecue. We're gonna grill, and we
Speaker 1: are going to eat. Cardia like, they just it's the
Speaker 1: name of the food, it's the act of grilling, and
Speaker 1: it's the event. So that's the Mexican version of saying.
Speaker 1: When we be like, oh, you ain't invited to the barbecue,
Speaker 1: they say, you're not invited to the Cardia SAIDA, Like,
Speaker 1: that's what they mean. The word is the same. It
Speaker 1: means three different things depending on the context and when
Speaker 1: it's coming out their mouth. You could figure out what's happening. Now.
Speaker 1: I say all that to get very serious on to
Speaker 1: talk about the words zion, Oh, it's about to get
Speaker 1: I felt like I heard the record scratch right now,
Speaker 1: Because if you've listened to reggae music, if you've heard
Speaker 1: anything made by Bob Marley. You done have heard the
Speaker 1: word Zion many times. You're a fan of Lauren Hill.
Speaker 1: What's the name of her child? Zion? Now the joy
Speaker 1: and mild in Zion? Black people love Zion, Moltzion. A
Speaker 1: boy on the side of Babylon trying to front like
Speaker 1: you're down with mozoyon u la la la is the
Speaker 1: way that we rock with. We're doing out they the
Speaker 1: black hotep rosta, you know, chew stick. We'd love Zion.
Speaker 1: We're chanting down Babylon. Babylon is will be defeated by
Speaker 1: Mount Zion? Is that the same Zion in Israel and Palestine?
Speaker 1: What y'all mean by that? Then? What the hell is
Speaker 1: a Zionist? So is that somebody that believe in Mount Zion? Like?
Speaker 1: What how? What is Zionism? And I'm sure if you
Speaker 1: listen to this show data ops, right, you you convince
Speaker 1: Zion like those are the ops. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if the thought has ever crossed your mind to be like, well,
Speaker 1: is is the Zionism that y'all talking about the same Zion?
Speaker 1: And Zion is that the rosters are talking about? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: Maybe this's never crossed your mind, but it's the the
Speaker 1: word needs to be dissected. So I am using this
Speaker 1: moment to teach you two things. What do the rosters
Speaker 1: mean when they say zion and what is Zionism and
Speaker 1: its history? All right, to a politics, Okay, listen first
Speaker 1: before I get into it. This week is like this.
Speaker 3: What look is like this? What look is like this?
Speaker 1: It's like this, son, it's like that sign I'm pumping.
Speaker 1: Let me take the news serious, all right, this week
Speaker 1: it's like this. Well, the Olympics, and I'm only excited
Speaker 1: about breaking. I'm sad that it's not going to be
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty eight. And it's not because of ray Gun.
Speaker 1: They decided before her that they weren't gonna do it
Speaker 1: in LA, which sucks. I don't know why they decided that,
Speaker 1: but they decided that way back in twenty twenty. Having
Speaker 1: said that, speaking of ray Gun, I know she's taken
Speaker 1: over to memes. I feel bad for these amazing bee
Speaker 1: boys and be girls, specifically Logistics. Sorry, that's a text.
Speaker 1: Specifically Logistics. I knock murdered them fools. And while she
Speaker 1: was in the middle of slaying, absolutely slaying ray Gun,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Have you ever been in a battle. Okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm from La. So that double time kind of
Speaker 1: what you think is bone thugs and harmony chopping stuff
Speaker 1: that originates at a place called the Good Life Project
Speaker 1: blowed this group called Freestyle Fellowship, and that is a
Speaker 1: sound that just kind of came from the La underground.
Speaker 1: Min figured rymee looking at a time like, I don't
Speaker 1: rap like that. So if you're at a spot and
Speaker 1: you're battling somebody and they killing it on the double time,
Speaker 1: it's killing the crowd you have. You I can't compete
Speaker 1: with that. You gotta go all the way the other way.
Speaker 1: You gotta get real creative and try to do something else.
Speaker 1: So for me it becomes I'm gonna try to do
Speaker 1: the contrast and do sort of a slow flow with
Speaker 1: a gang of wordplay and get really creative with a pattern.
Speaker 1: My time rhymes to find the mind saturn roller skate
Speaker 1: rhymes to find the kind kattern pump a bone battern
Speaker 1: for the full flatter you will flatter you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'll make you scatter her like just something else.
Speaker 1: You gotta take a chance and sometimes it lands, sometimes
Speaker 1: it doesn't. Okay, you get creative, you take a shot
Speaker 1: like take old dirty bastard, he don't rap like the
Speaker 1: rest of uteg Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. And
Speaker 1: I picked up when she was throwing down. She was
Speaker 1: trying trying to rep the Ausie Land, do animal style
Speaker 1: kangaroo hops to reper soil and be creative. Sometimes it works,
Speaker 1: sometimes it don't. Now I don't know nothing about her
Speaker 1: husband being in charge of no thing and all that
Speaker 1: good stuff that they were saying. All I know is
Speaker 1: you have to battle a lot of people to get
Speaker 1: to the top, and battling is very subjective, and sometimes
Speaker 1: creativity and style points count. But when your creativity just
Speaker 1: swinging a miss, she clearly don't have no power moves.
Speaker 1: She was battling logistics who got style, finess, flavored dance,
Speaker 1: intangibles and power moves. What are you gonna do? I
Speaker 1: saw a headspinning there, But she clearly don't have no
Speaker 1: power moves, so she's trying to fight back with style.
Speaker 1: Just didn't work. So I'm saying this as somebody who
Speaker 1: has been in a battle, and sometimes you lose your
Speaker 1: train of thought and the words sound like gibber is
Speaker 1: she she took a creative chance, and it was a
Speaker 1: swing and a miss. Sometimes it happens on a serious note. Okay,
Speaker 1: receipts are being pulled on walls and on JD and
Speaker 1: everybody involved, and we're trying to figure it out. The
Speaker 1: Democrats are doing their best to make Project twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five Trump's thing, which it is not. It is somebody
Speaker 1: trying to tie it to Trump. I can't believe I'm
Speaker 1: saying this in his defense. That is a lot of overlap,
Speaker 1: but that's their own thing now Trump, it's all caps
Speaker 1: saying Trump he don't know who the people are because
Speaker 1: he know who they are and he know what they want.
Speaker 1: So that's cap but it's in his defense, is not
Speaker 1: his now. Secondly, in JD. Vance's defense, I know, I
Speaker 1: know what it sounds like, but I'm gonna say it.
Speaker 1: He being dragged over this app Harvest startup. So that
Speaker 1: was a company that was an agricultural company that was
Speaker 1: supposed to be an Appalachia and was going to give
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of jobs to the area. Everybody got excited.
Speaker 1: It was like, dope, man, he one of us, or
Speaker 1: at least you told us he one of us. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a fresh job. Now again, he was an
Speaker 1: investor and he was just on the board. Now I
Speaker 1: have sat on a couple boards. And just because you're
Speaker 1: on the board don't mean you in charge of operation now.
Speaker 1: And just because you're an investor don't mean you in
Speaker 1: charge of the money now. You got a lot to say, obviously,
Speaker 1: but you can't necessarily be blamed for everything to go bad,
Speaker 1: and you can't necessarily take the praise for everything that
Speaker 1: go good. Not not only did this business fail before
Speaker 1: it failed, and they was talking about it was one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty degrees inside that building because it's a greenhouse.
Speaker 1: The conditions were terrible. And while everybody was like, man,
Speaker 1: I can't work in here, they brought in not a
Speaker 1: couple migrant workers, not even Mike, undocumented, five hundred of them,
Speaker 1: five hundred undocumented workers, which in any other scenario, all right,
Speaker 1: what do I care? The reason why any of us
Speaker 1: care is because you supposed to be Captain Appalachia. You
Speaker 1: called yourself that. If you didn't call yourself Captain Appalachia,
Speaker 1: it would have just been a failed thing. But you
Speaker 1: set yourself up as Robinhood of the Woods. So since
Speaker 1: you did that, you. I mean, what you're gonna say, Homie,
Speaker 1: I saw your watch you confront like you one of us.
Speaker 1: But that ain't really hurt nobody. Now you're hurting us
Speaker 1: saying you one of us. So he's gonna have to
Speaker 1: answer to that. And his answer was, yeah, sucked. I
Speaker 1: invested and I was on the board, but I mean
Speaker 1: I wasn't in charge. And in his defense, he's right
Speaker 1: now if there's walls, could tark y'all still calling that
Speaker 1: man tampon ten as if you ain't. All you got
Speaker 1: to do, beloved is read it. You can read the law.
Speaker 1: It is all over Beyonce's Internet. I'm an read it
Speaker 1: for you. Article one, General Education, Section one one twenty
Speaker 1: one a dot two twelve. Access to menstrual products. A
Speaker 1: school district charter must provide students with access to menstrual
Speaker 1: products at no charge. The products must be available to
Speaker 1: all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in
Speaker 1: grades four through twelve, according to the plan developed by
Speaker 1: the school district for purposes of this section. Menstrual products
Speaker 1: means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection
Speaker 1: to menstrual cycle. That's it. That's what the law say,
Speaker 1: not the whole reputting tampos and boys bathrooms. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: I just read you the law. That's what the law say.
Speaker 1: So just you know, cap down a little bit. Now.
Speaker 1: The DNC has started. We looking for you to put
Speaker 1: some words to your excitement, Auntie. We looking for Joe
Speaker 1: to like, you know, go out in a blaze of glory.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's all week this week. Now. I did
Speaker 1: get to watch a lot of Mondays, not enough to
Speaker 1: do a full recap. But the thing that's most interesting
Speaker 1: right now is the comparison to the nineteen sixty eight one,
Speaker 1: which was there's a lot of similarities. There was a
Speaker 1: huge protest that happened in sixty eight against the Vietnam war,
Speaker 1: and right now there's a huge protest going on against
Speaker 1: the war in Gaza. The difference in nineteen sixty eight
Speaker 1: and now is the cops beat the breaks off them
Speaker 1: protesters on TV like we all saw it this time.
Speaker 1: See Robert and Sophie and Garre are out there and
Speaker 1: they pretty much kind of behaved. It's pretty chill, you know.
Speaker 1: Now we'll see, but right now it's being pretty chill
Speaker 1: relatively speaking, and What's different this time is Joe went
Speaker 1: off script. Joe said, you know what, them protesters out there,
Speaker 1: they got a point. Innocent people being killed on both sides. Now, now,
Speaker 1: Sophie says she got a view of the teleprompter that
Speaker 1: wasn't on the script. Now, of course we're all grabbing
Speaker 1: for scraps, but good for him, that's a good scrap
Speaker 1: to grab. I'm so glad you acknowledged it, rather than
Speaker 1: acting like it's just a party on the inside. The
Speaker 1: campaigns of Harris and of Trump have been hacked by Iran,
Speaker 1: according to the US Intelligence It's not like this wasn't expected.
Speaker 1: Country has been tapping into our elections as a sport.
Speaker 1: They've been doing this for a long time. Iran is
Speaker 1: not happy. Iran is like you not only did you
Speaker 1: kill Cosumsulamani, you just popped another. We believe you just
Speaker 1: popped another person on our soil recently. Because you gotta remember,
Speaker 1: like Israel and America are interchangeable. To them, they don't
Speaker 1: ain't no difference share. That means that y'all need to
Speaker 1: double check all sources. That mean you need to question
Speaker 1: everything coming at you and keep your antennas high. You know.
Speaker 1: Another interesting difference is is that the news didn't report it.
Speaker 1: They didn't report the stuff that was in the leak,
Speaker 1: you know, and man in twenty sixteen, this was like
Speaker 1: catnip all the leaks, you know, butter emails. It's almost
Speaker 1: like we learned a lesson, like you know, and there's
Speaker 1: a few ways to look at it, right, It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: like if it's something in there that's like really like
Speaker 1: American people need to know, It's like, what's your duty
Speaker 1: as the media to be like, Okay, I know how
Speaker 1: we got it, but like it's kind of too real
Speaker 1: to talk about it. To not talk about it. On
Speaker 1: the other hand, it's like, you know when people make
Speaker 1: fun of your little brother and they be right about him,
Speaker 1: but you can't make fun of him. I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear from you, Like you can't say nothing about
Speaker 1: my little brother, your mom being like you telling on
Speaker 1: your little brother, your mom, Like why you snitching? I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear from you, just because like, no,
Speaker 1: you don't get to talk about it. So the news
Speaker 1: was like, I mean, thank you because they sent they
Speaker 1: sent the content of the hacks to Pro Publica. They
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you can have it pro public. It
Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool, thank you, but like, I don't
Speaker 1: need to get this from you, I mean respect. And
Speaker 1: finally there's another rumor of a ceasefire deal, and I
Speaker 1: say rumor because that's exactly what it sounds like because
Speaker 1: Anthony Lincoln like, yo, it's good. We just waiting on
Speaker 1: her mask Benjamin. Then Y'ALLHO said, like, I ain't agree
Speaker 1: to nothing. I don't know what you're talking about. They
Speaker 1: still haven't met our turns. And in the middle of that,
Speaker 1: we just still sent twenty million dollars to them people.
Speaker 1: So let's be real. Can't nobody to really tell another
Speaker 1: country what to do? You can't, really, There's no way
Speaker 1: an American president can stop a country from going to
Speaker 1: war to another country. But what they can do is
Speaker 1: not pay for it. Anyway, let's get to what Zion
Speaker 1: is like this all right now, I'm back now listen,
Speaker 1: I am going to do both these things an incredible
Speaker 1: injustice because both of these topics will take a lifetime
Speaker 1: to understand, and both of these topics could have many
Speaker 1: different interpretations depending on your understanding of history, politics, religion.
Speaker 1: Remember when I wanted to talk to y'all about the
Speaker 1: whothi's husblah, all of these different topics where I'm like,
Speaker 1: when you get into a religion, just like listen, listen
Speaker 1: when I say Christian, it's the same concept. When I
Speaker 1: say Christian. We talk about Manzion all the time. Matter
Speaker 1: of fact, if you black, you probably went to Mount
Speaker 1: zion A and me new geth semity Church of God
Speaker 1: at Christ Now I made that up right Now, there's
Speaker 1: probably is a new guest. There's probably a Mount zion
Speaker 1: A and me. I know there is is one in
Speaker 1: South Central. What I'm trying to say is we use
Speaker 1: these terms all the time because they in the Bible.
Speaker 1: But when I say Christian, that's what I mean. Now,
Speaker 1: when you say Christian, you may think Holy Roller Pentecosta,
Speaker 1: you may think Trump, you may think you may think Catholic,
Speaker 1: you may think there's so many other things you might
Speaker 1: think that are all these different. So you asked, you
Speaker 1: asked ten different Christians what does it mean to be Christian?
Speaker 1: You're gonna get ten different answers most likely. Remember we
Speaker 1: did the Terrorform episode with the hommy Kevin Garcia and
Speaker 1: I tried to break down in the beginning. It was tough,
Speaker 1: but I tried to give y'all a cursory understanding of
Speaker 1: like Western Church history. You see how I had to
Speaker 1: give that caveat that I'm talking about Western Church, like,
Speaker 1: we ain't talking Coptic, we not talking Greek Orthodox, were
Speaker 1: not talking Russian Jesuit. Like there's this You could really
Speaker 1: get lost in the week. So please give me that
Speaker 1: grace that what I am about to talk to you
Speaker 1: about is grossly trunk cadd Okay, But it's just to
Speaker 1: help y'all understand, so that as you have your picket
Speaker 1: signs out that at least you don't sound like I heard.
Speaker 1: So first let me teach y'all what arasam mean when
Speaker 1: they say mon Zion and I'm sorry about my patois Rastadi. Okay, First,
Speaker 1: let me step back and say what I'm what is Rastafarianism?
Speaker 1: Now I would say, like globally, it's probably one of
Speaker 1: the youngest world religions, getting its roots by name in
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties, deriving from the Ethiopian emperor Hali Selassii. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: as I say this again, like a rasta Rastafari, like
Speaker 1: this is not a compartmentalized philosophy or religion this is
Speaker 1: a way of life, right, a liberty. You know, this
Speaker 1: is this is our culture, our heritage, our history, right
Speaker 1: and our way of being, which some could argue is well,
Speaker 1: that's the definition of a religion. Religion a way of
Speaker 1: being right, your your liturgy. Anyway, there is an encompassing
Speaker 1: around this. Now it is impossible to separate Rasta from
Speaker 1: the africanness of it. Okay, So the belief is this
Speaker 1: when you listen to roots reggae, when you listen to
Speaker 1: you know, Bob Marley and them, like, there's so much
Speaker 1: to cover. Dance hall like, that's the club music, roots reggae,
Speaker 1: like you think of this as like worship, like this
Speaker 1: is praise and worship. There is a tie going back
Speaker 1: to the Queen of Sheba and King Solomon. Now I'm
Speaker 1: getting into my Old Testament. This is why there's so
Speaker 1: much Judaism and christian tied to it, because there is
Speaker 1: a belief that it's and it's and rightfully so, because
Speaker 1: if you believe the Bible, it's in the scriptures. Is
Speaker 1: that the Queen of Sheba, which was it's believed to
Speaker 1: be an ancient queen from the region of Ethiopia. Now
Speaker 1: obviously Ethiopia is a nation state, but Ethiopia as a
Speaker 1: continual connection of tribes a Romo Tigrei like just the
Speaker 1: different tribes that are there they have. Ethiopia and Thailand
Speaker 1: shares the legacy of being the only two countries that
Speaker 1: were never colonized or conquered. It's not Israel. Italy almost did, right,
Speaker 1: the British almost did, but they were never able to
Speaker 1: actually colonize Ethiopia. And Ethiopia takes a lot of pride
Speaker 1: in this, so a lot of their lineage and heritage.
Speaker 1: Because their history wasn't cut off or attempted to be erased,
Speaker 1: you can know a lot about them. Ethiopia in the
Speaker 1: scriptures in the Bible is called the land of Kush.
Speaker 1: Also right, it's believed that Moses's wife's Poora was from
Speaker 1: Ethiopia when Moses. This is all Old Testament stuff, but
Speaker 1: it's all makes sense. It all makes sense as to
Speaker 1: why the connection is so important to him. Moses before
Speaker 1: the whole let my people go, before the ten Commandments
Speaker 1: type joint. Moses supposedly, according to the story, saw a
Speaker 1: one of Pharaoh's guards abusing one of the Jewish slaves,
Speaker 1: and he hopped up and killed the guy, and then
Speaker 1: he had to run. And so then when he ran,
Speaker 1: he ran to the to Midian and he married Jethrow's daughter.
Speaker 1: And it was believed that that area was Ethiopia. Okay,
Speaker 1: so like that at least the region that we now
Speaker 1: call Ethiopia. So there's this belief that Moses's first bite
Speaker 1: was you fast forward to Solomon, King David, King David's son, right,
Speaker 1: the writer of Psalms, and it's believed that, according to
Speaker 1: the passages, that he had never seen anybody more beautiful
Speaker 1: or a kingdom more amazing than the kingdom that the
Speaker 1: Queen of Shiba came from. Now you fast forward to
Speaker 1: Emperor SALASSII and Emperor SALASSII a Romo Ethiopian man who
Speaker 1: became the emperor of what we know to be Ethiopia, right, geopolitically,
Speaker 1: but it's a belief that his bloodline can be traced
Speaker 1: back to King Solomon, right, the emperor bloodline of Ethiopia
Speaker 1: could be traced back to King Solomon. That's the roster belief. Again,
Speaker 1: as many rostas you might get, many answers, but overall,
Speaker 1: this is the belief. Right. Now, set that aside Okay,
Speaker 1: another connection is in. I know it's a lot of
Speaker 1: Bible stuff, but you gotta follow me because we are
Speaker 1: talking about Jews and Rastas, so of course we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about the Bible right now. The Book of
Speaker 1: Acts in the Bible has this story of this one
Speaker 1: of the apostles named Philip, and Philip runs into an
Speaker 1: Ethiopian eunuch who, according to the Bible, was reading the
Speaker 1: Book of Isaiah. And Philip sees him on the road
Speaker 1: and he's like, you know what you're reading? And the
Speaker 1: dudes like, how can I know? If nobody teaches him?
Speaker 1: So he sits down with him, and he, according to
Speaker 1: the scripture, according to the Bible, explains Isaiah, the prophecies,
Speaker 1: the Messiah, the death barely on resurrection of Jesus, and
Speaker 1: how that stuff was prophesied in the Book of Isaiah.
Speaker 1: So he ties other things and then it says that
Speaker 1: this Ethiopian eunuch got baptized right then. Now it is
Speaker 1: then believed that he brought Christianity as we know it.
Speaker 1: Their belief is like, we saw it right there, but
Speaker 1: prov I thought Rostell was Jamaican. I'll get to it.
Speaker 1: So that's that's tie number three right now. The fourth tide,
Speaker 1: which is one of the most compelling things to me
Speaker 1: between the Jews, Zion and Ethiopia is the city of Axom.
Speaker 1: So the city of Axom is in the northern part
Speaker 1: of Ethiopia and is known to be and it's truthfully
Speaker 1: the oldest, the first and oldest Christian city because contrary
Speaker 1: to what yellow white pastor will teach you, the faith
Speaker 1: went to Africa before it went to Europe. Okay, hell,
Speaker 1: it went to Mongolia before it went to Europe. The
Speaker 1: point is the white man ain't teach us who Jesus was. Now.
Speaker 1: It is also believed that the arc of the Covenant
Speaker 1: from the Old Testament is int Axom. There are ruins
Speaker 1: at different churches that have good archaeological evidence to believe
Speaker 1: that they set up the tent with the dimensions that
Speaker 1: Exodus and Deuteronomy and and the all Testament scriptures have
Speaker 1: taught them to do this. There are if you go
Speaker 1: to Israel now black Ethiopian Jewish people. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, they to be able to now getting into
Speaker 1: the to the modern politics, to be able to repatronize,
Speaker 1: to be able to come back to Israel as a
Speaker 1: Jew you'd have to prove by your DNA that you
Speaker 1: have Jewish heritage, you are in fact an ethnic Jew.
Speaker 1: And the Ethiopians there's a sect of Ethiopia that not
Speaker 1: only can prove it, but are some argue, the closest
Speaker 1: like DNA related to what might be the ancient Israeli. Right,
Speaker 1: they're the like that. Some would argue that as far
Speaker 1: as the diaspora, not as far as like people ain't
Speaker 1: never left, I'm talking about as far as the diaspora, right,
Speaker 1: So they are, it can truly say. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of traditions that in certain parts of Ethiopia that
Speaker 1: they continued far longer and are actually far more closely
Speaker 1: related to the ancient practices then what modern Israel looks like.
Speaker 1: This is just it's just history now, because anti blackness
Speaker 1: is universal. When they got to Israel, the modern Israel,
Speaker 1: a lot of Ethiopian women were sterilized. And if you
Speaker 1: walk around Jerusalem, just like everywhere else, the people doing
Speaker 1: all the all of the dirty work, all of the
Speaker 1: bront work, all of the jobs, nobody won't are the black. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: that being said, the tie between Ethiopia the ancient religion
Speaker 1: of Judaism and the ancient people of Israel, one because
Speaker 1: of the region, one because of folklore, and one because
Speaker 1: of DNA. Has Ethiopia is verifiably connected to whatever the
Speaker 1: ancient Jerusalem was. Okay, you fast forward to Halli Selassia
Speaker 1: in the nineteen thirties, who they believe according to the
Speaker 1: Rasta jim is I want to say two hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty fifth. I think that's what my cousin told me
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty fifth. Don't quote me on this,
Speaker 1: I'm just quoting my cousin of the Solemonic dynasty. So
Speaker 1: they believe that like the actual king like a descendant
Speaker 1: of King David right, a son of David, kind of
Speaker 1: like who Jesus was a descendant of David Right was
Speaker 1: also Selassia. Ya ya ya aa, you following me? Okay? Now,
Speaker 1: the word Rastafari comes from Hali Selassi, which is Ras Tafari, Right,
Speaker 1: It's it was his name, right. So he was one
Speaker 1: of the only independent black leaders in Africa at the time. Right,
Speaker 1: So he bears this cultural, political, historical, and symbolic importance
Speaker 1: to just the African diaspora. Now, once you get into
Speaker 1: the practices of Rastafarianism, like again like the rastadim the
Speaker 1: way of life, like the diet, you know, avoiding shelfish,
Speaker 1: eating seafood, like it's pretty similar to like kosher practices
Speaker 1: again because they have this tie to the land, the history.
Speaker 1: So there's there's a lot of practices that are like
Speaker 1: that are that they they have a lot of practices
Speaker 1: about being welcoming to the sojourner, about the way that
Speaker 1: we collectively sing ja is a Jamaican version of saying yah,
Speaker 1: which is short for yahweh. So when we say jah rastafari,
Speaker 1: you know it's your ja is yah yahweh or jahovah. Right,
Speaker 1: So these a lot of them are vegetarian. They don't
Speaker 1: eat meat at all. Definitely not be for pork. Because
Speaker 1: you keep the temple clean, right, you very rarely are
Speaker 1: gonna find an overweight rasta like they're usually in incredibly
Speaker 1: good shape. The dreadlocks have to do what what's called
Speaker 1: the valve the Nazarite because again we're talking Old Testament
Speaker 1: Samson in the Bible, you know Samson with his golden lock,
Speaker 1: you know the Samson and Delilah, like Samson that took
Speaker 1: what's called a Nazarite vow, which was a vow to
Speaker 1: keep himself holy to the Lord, and the symbol of
Speaker 1: that holiness to the Lord was not crust cutting your hair.
Speaker 1: This is as a symbol of our holiness, the vow
Speaker 1: of the Nazarite. You grow your dreadlocks. Right. Dreadlocks was
Speaker 1: a term given to us by the British that we
Speaker 1: just own naughty dread so because our hair our locks
Speaker 1: were dreadful, so dreadlocks. There's also sex that believe that
Speaker 1: like God grabs the dead souls by their dreadlocks and
Speaker 1: bring them to brings them to Heaven. Again, there's the
Speaker 1: symbols beautiful, but either way, it's a symbol of the promise,
Speaker 1: your commitment to keeping yourself sanctified to the Father. Right
Speaker 1: is if you're being a traditional rostad Am. Now their
Speaker 1: belief different than it's still again so follow me. This
Speaker 1: is still at Abrahamic faith. That's why you're gonna hear
Speaker 1: terms like mauzaion right, which I'm gonna get to specifically
Speaker 1: in a second. But their belief different than Christianity, although
Speaker 1: similar in a lot of ways, similar to Judaism in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Their belief is that like I said,
Speaker 1: Selassie was the Messiah. Right, this is an afro Centric belief.
Speaker 1: How did it get to Jamaica the trans Atlantic slave trade.
Speaker 1: So it gets to Jamaica via the slave trade. We
Speaker 1: got carted off. Remember this is an Afrocentric belief. And
Speaker 1: when Africans got brought to Jamaica, they brought their beliefs
Speaker 1: and then it sinked, you know, had a lot of
Speaker 1: syncretism with a lot of like the voodoo and tribal
Speaker 1: and Caribbean practices, you know, a lot of the stuff
Speaker 1: that was happening in the Caribbean. That because again this
Speaker 1: is East Africa, West Africa with the Arishi and the
Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of the West African beliefs
Speaker 1: are a little more animus, you know, and not so
Speaker 1: a rahammock if you will. Right, all that to say,
Speaker 1: just like any other faith, tradition or practice, when it travels,
Speaker 1: it takes on a lot of the personalities, traditions and
Speaker 1: practices of the people that it traveled with and the
Speaker 1: location it lands. So the music that you hear because
Speaker 1: obviously if you hear music in Ethiopia, it don't sound
Speaker 1: like reggae because reggae is Jamaican right, So what you
Speaker 1: consider Rastafarian, you think Caribbean, because that's I mean, I
Speaker 1: get it right. And Ethiopia is Christian, right of course,
Speaker 1: there's obviously it's a modern country. There's millions of religions there,
Speaker 1: not millions, but you know what I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of different religions there. But Ethiopia is Christian. Rasta
Speaker 1: that's birthed out of the diaspora that has its tie
Speaker 1: to Ethiopia. Y'all following me, You have people like Marcus Garvey,
Speaker 1: right who we need to at some point do a
Speaker 1: whole study on him in the back to African movement.
Speaker 1: And I don't have time to get into the depths
Speaker 1: of Marcus Garvey. But but the point was, as far
Speaker 1: as the Pan African experience, were those who the diaspora,
Speaker 1: we who got separated from our land, whether it was
Speaker 1: your run of the mill black Baptist slave in Tuscaloosa
Speaker 1: right in Mobile, Alabama, backwoods, a pretching and you know,
Speaker 1: making Georgia that we was on the plantations. If a
Speaker 1: Bible got into our hands, it was so easy to
Speaker 1: see ourselves in the Children of Israel. Like it's not
Speaker 1: hard to see if you read the Book of Exodus.
Speaker 1: You like, well, damn, that's us. It was too. It
Speaker 1: was too If the connection is too obvious, we're like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, cart it off into slavery from a
Speaker 1: distant land, and then there's a longing for a return
Speaker 1: to your promised land. The city and the capital of
Speaker 1: my promised land is the city of Zion. You following me.
Speaker 1: It would be the same in the Caribbean for the
Speaker 1: rastadem But they looking back at Selassii, it is Rastafarianism
Speaker 1: is by definition anti colonial obviously, and they believe that
Speaker 1: Africa is their not only their their literal ancestral homeland,
Speaker 1: but it's their spiritual homeland. And the country of Ethiopia
Speaker 1: gets a particular reverence because of the role it played
Speaker 1: in the nineteenth century for the resistance of because of SELASSII,
Speaker 1: for the resistance of European imperialism. Everybody else fell, Ethiopia didn't.
Speaker 1: So the gold, green, and red colors of the modern
Speaker 1: Ethiopia flag are the traditional colors of the Rastafarian because
Speaker 1: it can, in some ways get it roots, gets its
Speaker 1: roots from there. Right. Okay, I know that was a
Speaker 1: long preamble, but you gotta understand what we're told me.
Speaker 1: So once you have this understand of your connection to
Speaker 1: Judaism practice anti colonial you know, dispersed, taken away from
Speaker 1: your homeland and longing for a return to your promised land.
Speaker 1: Now we could talk about what Zion is. Now, Rastafarian
Speaker 1: has two basic tent poles Zion Babylon. You hear that
Speaker 1: stuff in all the raget you listen to, right, So
Speaker 1: these are the theological ideology ideological tent poles. The dichotomy
Speaker 1: is tied again to the anti colonial origins because Babylon,
Speaker 1: remember again in your Old Testament, is the symbol of
Speaker 1: the evil powers, the evil empire, just like in the Bible.
Speaker 1: It's the the the the epitome. It is everything that's
Speaker 1: wrong in the world. It's the system is symbolized in
Speaker 1: king Nebukan, the in the in the Kingdom of Babylon,
Speaker 1: and we long to see Babylon fall. We chant down
Speaker 1: about this worldly system that in slaves and attacks and
Speaker 1: seeks to control not only the outward person, but the
Speaker 1: inside of you what Christians would call your sin nature
Speaker 1: worldly Babylon. Right, So, if you're following again the saga
Speaker 1: of the Old Testament, Israel fleeing Egypt or getting away
Speaker 1: from Egypt, becoming free and then being enslaved by Babylon
Speaker 1: again Babylon's the problem. Does that make sense? Now? In
Speaker 1: the Bible, Zion is just another name for Jerusalem, right,
Speaker 1: and it can refer to the land of Israel fully.
Speaker 1: Now the Rastafarian, Okay, this is where our difference is
Speaker 1: repurpose the Biblical definition to an Afrocentric direction. For the Rasta,
Speaker 1: Zion is the continent of Africa, specifically Ethiopia. But the
Speaker 1: term represents not just a physical place, because Ethiopia is
Speaker 1: just Ethiopia, but it's an ideal. It's what we would
Speaker 1: call to become cross. It's this is paradise, this is
Speaker 1: Thy Kingdom. Come Thy will be done on earth as
Speaker 1: it is in heaven. Zion Heaven and Earth meets. So
Speaker 1: it's not just it's it's physical and so much more,
Speaker 1: which in a lot of ways is the same for
Speaker 1: the jew But we'll get to that. It is the
Speaker 1: destruction of a worldly system and the raising of a
Speaker 1: selected godly kingdom where all of us. What we would
Speaker 1: talk about the Christians woul talk about the Kingdom of
Speaker 1: God is righteousness, peace, enjoying, the Holy goth Is to
Speaker 1: be a part of the kingdom. So it's a both
Speaker 1: place and it's an idea to strive for, right where
Speaker 1: the rastas they would equate with preserving and glorifying Black
Speaker 1: African culture. Right the Iron Lion of Zion, you know
Speaker 1: Bob Marley's you know song, but for more information, like
Speaker 1: Rastafarai is kind of like like how we have denominations.
Speaker 1: There's a divided into mansions and they got it from
Speaker 1: like the Gospel of John when Jesus says, in my
Speaker 1: father's house there are many mansions. Right again, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you it's an Abrahamic faith. A lot of people don't
Speaker 1: think it's just a it's a black you know, anti
Speaker 1: colonial African outpour of it. Right, So you have like
Speaker 1: the Bobo, the Ashanti, the twelve tribes, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a denomination if you will, they would call it twelve
Speaker 1: tribes of Israel. N I never pronounced it, right, But
Speaker 1: the Naya be the Naya b BINGI like, I never
Speaker 1: pronounced it right. But there are a certain type now
Speaker 1: some again there are some look more traditional than others,
Speaker 1: and then a lot of people just follow like an
Speaker 1: individual like rostof way of viewing it. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, Ethiopia is, for lack of better term,
Speaker 1: the new Jerusalem. This is zion when we're talking about Rastadam. Okay,
Speaker 1: now what the Zionists believe next? All right, we're back. Now,
Speaker 1: Zionism the the name the overall name for right now.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're pro Palestine, that's the name of
Speaker 1: the bad guys. They're Zionis. And people have tried to
Speaker 1: separate the idea of anti Semitism from Zionists being anti Zionists,
Speaker 1: that these are different things. Now that would mean that
Speaker 1: you'd have to understand all those things and their history
Speaker 1: from them. Now, I'm trying to handle this like with
Speaker 1: as much respect as I can because I'm talking about
Speaker 1: a culture that's not mine, right, So please grant me
Speaker 1: that grace that there's I'm probably gonna overlook. Like I
Speaker 1: said in the beginning, I'm probably gonna overlook some stuff
Speaker 1: that I'm not trying to overlook. I'm trying to give
Speaker 1: as best as I can and understanding, right of these
Speaker 1: different things anti Semi that's I mean, those are the Nazis.
Speaker 1: You just don't believe that it's a type of thing.
Speaker 1: It's a type of overall term for the concept of
Speaker 1: the convolution of of idea, this weird idea that all
Speaker 1: that is wrong. Like it's almost like you've made the
Speaker 1: Jew Babylon, you know what I'm saying, Like we just
Speaker 1: talked about like they are everything that's wrong. They are both.
Speaker 1: They are both the killers of Jesus. They are the
Speaker 1: vermin that I'm trying to describe anti Semitism, the religion
Speaker 1: and the ethnicity that somehow or another is poor and subhuman,
Speaker 1: but also quietly controls all of the inner workings of
Speaker 1: money and power in the world. And your only solution
Speaker 1: is to wipe them out. That would be anti Semitic.
Speaker 1: That's the idea of that. That comes from this thing
Speaker 1: called the Protocols of Zion, which again the word Zion
Speaker 1: I'm to talk about, which is something that we've talked
Speaker 1: about on the Behind the Bastards episodes of the Protocols
Speaker 1: of Zion. Now that's anti Semitic. Now once we get
Speaker 1: into now if you remember the one of the You
Speaker 1: Wasn't Outside episodes when we pulled the clip of a
Speaker 1: rabbi explaining the idea of what makes a Jew a
Speaker 1: jew according to the faith is they're covenant with Yahweh.
Speaker 1: That it's not necessarily a location. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: to see it as a location is to minimize it.
Speaker 1: Where he was like the Promised Land that our claim
Speaker 1: is because we are in covenant with Yahweh, and that
Speaker 1: can happen anywhere. The location don't matter. So to say
Speaker 1: that the capital has to be in Jerusalem or has
Speaker 1: to be in Tel Aviv because that's God's will is
Speaker 1: He's like, no, you're missing the point, Like who cares
Speaker 1: where a modern nation state plants? Like that's a secular
Speaker 1: system that is like the rastadem would say that is Babylon.
Speaker 1: To worry about what other nations say. I am a
Speaker 1: part of the kingdom, and the kingdom exists because I
Speaker 1: am and covenant with yaw. We are a covenant people.
Speaker 1: That's what makes that's what gives us our Jewishness is
Speaker 1: our covenant with y'awe. Who cares what the borders are?
Speaker 1: That would be a specific type of Judaism, right, a
Speaker 1: religious type of Judaism, now an ethnic Judaism, but something different.
Speaker 1: A political Judaism is something different, and that's what we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about. Right now, Zionism as we're talking
Speaker 1: about Nadar Rastadem. But Zionism, you could say, I'd say,
Speaker 1: go back to August twenty ninth, eighteen ninety seven. It
Speaker 1: was a meeting on the Rhine River in this small
Speaker 1: city like uh in Switzerland called Basil, right um Basil. Now,
Speaker 1: this meeting had people from all over the world, and
Speaker 1: it was to discuss this concept of Zionism. Now, like
Speaker 1: I said in the bio, like I said, zion is
Speaker 1: just a biblical term for Jerusalem. Right, So they choose
Speaker 1: that term because if you're paying attention to europe Pagras,
Speaker 1: it ain't a good place for Jews. It's been all
Speaker 1: bad for them for a while. And this discussion was
Speaker 1: to say we have to have a place cause it
Speaker 1: seemed like no matter where we go, we not want it.
Speaker 1: Now they pull in all the way back small freaking
Speaker 1: Canaan to Egypt. They are talking about their deep history
Speaker 1: and they're like, like, no matter where we go, we
Speaker 1: not want it. So we need to find a place
Speaker 1: where we could just be ourselves. And they thought, what
Speaker 1: better place than our ancestral homeland. Now, if you're looking
Speaker 1: around this room, you would think the same thing. I
Speaker 1: would think, y'all white as hell, like you're you're European.
Speaker 1: I don't understand the same way that you would probably
Speaker 1: look at that Ethiopian and go, but you're African. But
Speaker 1: follow me now, So people in during the time, from
Speaker 1: like Munich, from Germany, from Poland, from Switzerland, they're like,
Speaker 1: what is you talking about? Like I'm just as German
Speaker 1: as everybody. They German. They're like, we speak German, like
Speaker 1: this is just our religious Like I ain't never seen
Speaker 1: I never been to Israel, never seen Israel. Israel's not
Speaker 1: a thing at the time. That place is Palestine, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's not a that's not a that's It would
Speaker 1: be the same as me saying I need to go
Speaker 1: back to Nubia, but like Nubia's gone, you know, black
Speaker 1: people like again a Marcus Garvey thing, but that was
Speaker 1: closer today time, like you need to go back to
Speaker 1: there's no place here wanted for you. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not I don't I don't even know the language
Speaker 1: they speak at Tobo. I'm guessing that because I took
Speaker 1: an African ancestry and they were saying I'm my father's side,
Speaker 1: that maybe I'm like, what do I know about? I
Speaker 1: don't even think about that. So the Jews at the
Speaker 1: time were like, what I don't this what did you
Speaker 1: talking about? Like it would be the equivalent to a
Speaker 1: back to Africa movement to where it's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it sounds cool, but like I mean it's already people there,
Speaker 1: and I mean it's been hundreds of year, like I'm German,
Speaker 1: like we're German. A lot of the rabbis were like, look,
Speaker 1: first of all, this is blasphemous. Were not supposed to
Speaker 1: return into the Messiah come, Like that's what the prophecies that,
Speaker 1: and he gonna bring us I don't know about what
Speaker 1: the hell you doing? Right? And then the others, like
Speaker 1: the more modern ones, were like, well, we're not a
Speaker 1: nation like that was actually the point, Like don't you
Speaker 1: then you read Yo yo taura, you don't need a king.
Speaker 1: I'm your king. You're not a nation, like that's the point.
Speaker 1: The point is you're supposed to be different. I'm your king.
Speaker 1: You're a part of a Kingdom of God, the Kingdom
Speaker 1: of Heaven, and I'll bring you back when it's time,
Speaker 1: when the Messiah come. So like whatever y'all doing that's
Speaker 1: not even now I'm saying that again, this is eighteen
Speaker 1: ninety seven. That's that was the belief of them. Now
Speaker 1: again those were some rabbi and not only that, like
Speaker 1: I said, they're like, well, I'm French. I what anyway,
Speaker 1: Enter this guy named Theodore Herzel, right, who was a
Speaker 1: journalist who covered this actually probably one of the most
Speaker 1: radicalizing moments for anybody, for any Jew in Europe, right,
Speaker 1: And it was the case for this man named Alfred Dreyfus, right,
Speaker 1: which basically became like the trial of the century. It was.
Speaker 1: They called it the Dreyfus affair, and the journalists who
Speaker 1: covered it was Theodore Hurt. Basically, the Dreyfus was accused
Speaker 1: of treason and found guilty and sentenced to like a
Speaker 1: work prism, totally wrongfully convicted, completely out of nowhere. Y'all
Speaker 1: made all that up. But how that work was Like
Speaker 1: because he was Jewish, it became not just about him,
Speaker 1: but that you can't trust the Jew. And Theodore Hurzel's
Speaker 1: watching all this and he's watching the people get whipped
Speaker 1: up into a frenzy. People that was just your neighbors.
Speaker 1: Like again, I'm just as German as I'm just as
Speaker 1: European as you are. Like, fam, I remember the feeling
Speaker 1: when Trump first started taking over the brains of the
Speaker 1: White Christian where I was like dog, we was at
Speaker 1: cracker barrel yesterday. What happened? Like we used to what
Speaker 1: just what has bewitched you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: All of was like this the whole time. It was
Speaker 1: super confusing. It's like all of a sudden were different, y'all.
Speaker 1: It's me like I've been meeting this whole time. So
Speaker 1: Theodore Hertzel was like, yo, okay, listen, we clearly not
Speaker 1: want it here, and it's only gonna get worse. Turns
Speaker 1: out he was absolutely correct. So he comes up with
Speaker 1: this idea that is like He's like, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: suggest a Jewish state in the current state of Nation
Speaker 1: of Palestine. Y'all think I'm crazy right now, But in
Speaker 1: about fifty years you gonna see this was eighteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1: Guess what happened in fifty years nineteen forty eight shoots Israel? Bekay?
Speaker 1: But day ain't that chrisy. So now Zionism, you want
Speaker 1: to be able to distinguish it between two different types
Speaker 1: of Zionism, right, And this is where I would critique
Speaker 1: making the concept the bad guy, because there's two types here. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's the Zionism that comes out of a longing for
Speaker 1: a home that's where us and Erastas actually share a
Speaker 1: place where we can be fully accepted, fully ourselves, and
Speaker 1: fully safe, because again, we're not wanted anywhere we are,
Speaker 1: right so there's a longing for a home that you've
Speaker 1: been ripped away from. Right now, when they say ripped
Speaker 1: away from, like we're talking guess what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: King of Babylon. We're talking about the nations being scattered
Speaker 1: like five eighty BC when the Arc of the Covenant
Speaker 1: went missing, and this beautiful, amazing Kingdom of Israel that
Speaker 1: used to exist in modern day Palestine, Israel in that
Speaker 1: region that was called Judea at that time where they existed.
Speaker 1: And then if you know your history, I've said this
Speaker 1: so many times in the Usn't Outside episodes, that little
Speaker 1: strip of land has been conquered and colonialized and ran
Speaker 1: by every possible king, every possible empire in the modern world,
Speaker 1: finally by Britain. And then but as that was happening,
Speaker 1: the people who were ethnically Israeli, as we mean in
Speaker 1: the ancient sense, we're scattered all over the world. So
Speaker 1: that's why you could be white as hale in Jewish
Speaker 1: and you could be black as hale in Jewish because
Speaker 1: they were scattered, right And then of course now you're
Speaker 1: not gonna marry people while you're there. But somehow or another
Speaker 1: they've been able to keep on to their traditions and
Speaker 1: their religions because they were also it's one of those
Speaker 1: things which you're ethnically and religiously and your identity. So anyway,
Speaker 1: scattered all over the world. But as as we know,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of people that didn't lead. Again, I'm giving
Speaker 1: you you wasn't outside history, which you understand. So there's
Speaker 1: this longing of being like, man, this we used to
Speaker 1: have a place to be in the world, and you
Speaker 1: feel like you're looking around everybody else got a place
Speaker 1: to be in the world. This is born from despair
Speaker 1: and rightfully so. But then there's this other type of
Speaker 1: Zionism that is more like this idea of reclaiming and
Speaker 1: enthusiasm about our heritage and our culture, like we need
Speaker 1: we need to be like the same way I would
Speaker 1: be like loud and black, Like we need to be
Speaker 1: black as hell out here, Like we need to reclaim,
Speaker 1: take up space and be ourselves rather than like shrinking ourselves.
Speaker 1: Like I want to reclaim all that it is for
Speaker 1: us to be us now as a minority. That shouldn't
Speaker 1: be hard for you to understand. I mean that's us
Speaker 1: sitting here in America. And then you got the Republicans
Speaker 1: being like, well, you're American first, and I'm like, nah, nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm black. I got my red, black and green on
Speaker 1: the wall. You know, it's the Latinos flying their Mexican
Speaker 1: flags and like, nah, we who we are? You feel me?
Speaker 1: And you're like when you're an American, you know, it's
Speaker 1: you're a Nosavo kid. You know when you finally discovered
Speaker 1: the concept of Azline. You want to know a little
Speaker 1: about your own heritage. Yeah, you're American, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, from East Lost, but you want to reclaim
Speaker 1: your history, your heritage, your language. You want to learn
Speaker 1: Aztec dances. It's like so there's that version also, so
Speaker 1: in that sense it'd be weird to you when you
Speaker 1: like you're like yo, like yo, we're jewsh You're like, ooh,
Speaker 1: I'm German. It's like nigga you French like word. These
Speaker 1: people don't love you, like why you identify as that?
Speaker 1: You know? So there's you see that as a lens
Speaker 1: of Zionism. You those So you have these ideas happening
Speaker 1: all around the same sort of time and idea with
Speaker 1: the same term zion. So it could be seeing as
Speaker 1: somebody that's like, yo, like I want to learn our
Speaker 1: ancient language, I want to learn our practices, I want
Speaker 1: to do the shabbat, I want to like I want
Speaker 1: to bring back. It became this umbrella term for just
Speaker 1: what it meant to, like reclaim your culture, reclaim your identity,
Speaker 1: reclaim the fullness of what y'all are. And then there's
Speaker 1: the geopolitical idea. Now, this geopolitical idea borrowed from all
Speaker 1: of these particular concepts, and if you read the writings
Speaker 1: of Theodore Herzel and a lot of the people involved
Speaker 1: in this, they were all bride eyed about the idea
Speaker 1: that like, oh, this is going to be a colonial
Speaker 1: takeover of Palestine. You have to remove the indigenous population
Speaker 1: for this to happen, because there's no way they're going
Speaker 1: to give it to me. And there were certain ways
Speaker 1: they tried to do it. They tried to do it peacefully.
Speaker 1: One way they said was well, first of all, let's
Speaker 1: go talk to Britain, because remember the British Empire actually
Speaker 1: drew the partition. The British Empire is the one that
Speaker 1: drew the line between Israel and Palestine, because remember it
Speaker 1: used to belong to them. Another idea that Thesion has
Speaker 1: had was, yo, let's go talk to the Turkish Empire,
Speaker 1: right because remember the Ottomans were there before the British
Speaker 1: and they was like, okay, so if you let us
Speaker 1: be a government, how about we pay all the debts? Well,
Speaker 1: what if we pay off debts? They were trying. Matter
Speaker 1: of fact, Israel. The location wasn't even their first choice
Speaker 1: because they was like this a little too complicated. They
Speaker 1: thought about going to Africa. They looked at a couple
Speaker 1: different places as to where to land. This geopol political
Speaker 1: idea of Zionism. I'm telling this out of order. Let
Speaker 1: me back up. So the idea that like it's just
Speaker 1: a myth that the Zionists were not aware of the
Speaker 1: Palestinian Arab population. They were well aware of it. But
Speaker 1: the question is what to do with that information? Because yeah,
Speaker 1: as Jewish, as as Hurtzel was, he's also a European,
Speaker 1: so that like he saw the Arabs as barbaric like
Speaker 1: that they were. I mean, it's just there's no other
Speaker 1: way around it. They were well aware that you are
Speaker 1: going to have to displace people to build a nation
Speaker 1: like this. So that was not they knew. Right now, again,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the geopolitical idea of Zionists. But their
Speaker 1: idea was like, surely y'all can see that, like, we're
Speaker 1: not a big empire. We're not here like we're just
Speaker 1: we're just looking for a place to be, you know,
Speaker 1: and since we're from here anyway, it should this shouldn't
Speaker 1: be a problem. So yeah, so, like I said, Hertzel
Speaker 1: went to the w the British, he went to the
Speaker 1: Ottoman Empire, and he asked them, like, yo, can we
Speaker 1: just go settle Keep in mind is like European Jews
Speaker 1: had been moving to tel Aviv for a while. You know,
Speaker 1: they actually formed the city of tel Aviv, right, those
Speaker 1: were Jewish settlers from Israel that's formed the city of
Speaker 1: tel Aviv. This is well before Israel became a state, right,
Speaker 1: so they had already been moving. Now they were just
Speaker 1: like we just need legitimacy, So how about we buy
Speaker 1: it from the Ottomans. And you know, the emperor of
Speaker 1: the Ottoman Empire was like, bro, I can't sell you
Speaker 1: land like it belongs to the people and they fought
Speaker 1: to conquer this place. I'm not just fin just just
Speaker 1: sell it to you. And not only did he not
Speaker 1: sell it to him, he started building policy to make
Speaker 1: sure that they can't just be immigrating and just buying
Speaker 1: up Palestinian land. He was like, I'm not really I'm
Speaker 1: not really here for this, and like, why would I
Speaker 1: welcome like a large religious minority into my empire? You
Speaker 1: might take it over. So, like I said, he was like,
Speaker 1: I can't. Look, they're not just letting us come now,
Speaker 1: they're restricting our thing, our movement. He even, like I said,
Speaker 1: he went back to the British Empire asked for a
Speaker 1: spot in East Africa, like can we just and the
Speaker 1: Jews back home? It was like, nigga, we're going back
Speaker 1: to Zion. The hell you talk about East Africa for
Speaker 1: He's Perzel was like, bro, I'm trying right. So eventually
Speaker 1: they found the city of Tel Aviv. They create their
Speaker 1: own like anybody else, like you created Chinatown. You created
Speaker 1: like you create your own community. Then nem niggas got organized.
Speaker 1: Now now the timeline I'm telling you this, Like I said,
Speaker 1: remember you had this first idea of eighteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1: So this is all during the times between like World
Speaker 1: War One, World War two. Remember Britain didn't take over
Speaker 1: until nineteen seventeen, because that's why he was building with
Speaker 1: the Ottoman Empire. Dudes once and then once they was gone,
Speaker 1: once British. Once Britain took over nineteen seventeen, we're about
Speaker 1: we're seeing the end of World War One, right, you're
Speaker 1: thinking maybe this was a new world and it all
Speaker 1: hell broke loose with the Nazi Empire. And at that point,
Speaker 1: once the Nazis things started happening, it was like all, nigga,
Speaker 1: we gotta go like this, We can't be playing games.
Speaker 1: Were trying to play nice like like that. The Nazi
Speaker 1: thing kick this mug in a high gear. So now
Speaker 1: by nineteen forty seven, it's like now it's like the
Speaker 1: Jews are like a third of the population in Palestine
Speaker 1: at the time, right, So so now it's getting a
Speaker 1: little itchy, you know what I'm saying. Like now y'all.
Speaker 1: Just y'all just over here, And if you're an Arab nation,
Speaker 1: you like, okay, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait okay. Why we
Speaker 1: got to lose our home because of stuff Europe did?
Speaker 1: Why are we paying the price? Like I feel you
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that's terrible what you're
Speaker 1: going through, But like why you gotta come, Why you
Speaker 1: gotta take our house? Why y'all gotta be like what's
Speaker 1: going on right now? But anyway, since nobody's handing it
Speaker 1: to them, now we got numbers, since nobody's just gonna
Speaker 1: let us be here, the only way to do this
Speaker 1: is by force. So them dudes made a military. Now
Speaker 1: it's time to scrap for it. But as you know,
Speaker 1: this is still a British outpost. Finally Britain's like, okay, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm done with all this. When were we gonna do?
Speaker 1: Y'all get that part, y'all get that part. They created
Speaker 1: the partition, but they said, now y'all figure out what
Speaker 1: is what and who run this and all that, Like
Speaker 1: I'm done. And there at that moment the birth of
Speaker 1: the nation of Israel. The lines created by Britain after
Speaker 1: they left in Palestine looking around here going man, what
Speaker 1: what just happened? Right now? And then, like I said
Speaker 1: in other you wasn't outside episodes, the rest of the
Speaker 1: Arab nations was like, oh hell no, like if they
Speaker 1: went to war immediately everybody jumped them ere everybody junking
Speaker 1: was like and then and look Israel one like like
Speaker 1: they just what did y'all do? Like who are you?
Speaker 1: Why are you getting to be a nation? But that's
Speaker 1: what happened, and we still scrapping over it. Nation states
Speaker 1: again have more to do with the recognition of other
Speaker 1: nations and who gets to decide who gets what power
Speaker 1: and all this good stuff. I like, we said, borders
Speaker 1: are made up, they're drawn by conquerors. It's not. Don't
Speaker 1: let that fool you. The concept that has people out
Speaker 1: in the streets is the type of Zionism that has
Speaker 1: to do with the displacement of an indigenous population by
Speaker 1: force because you believe God wanted you here. That's one
Speaker 1: way to look at it, And that, my friend, it's
Speaker 1: just run of the mill imperialism. It's basic. Then there's
Speaker 1: the Zionism that says, like I said, I am preserving
Speaker 1: my culture. And then there's the Zionism that says I
Speaker 1: am longing for a place for us to belong, a
Speaker 1: Zionism that is much more an idea of a promised
Speaker 1: land rather than the hostile takeover of a place where
Speaker 1: people already exist. Spiritual, religious, political, all of that in
Speaker 1: this one turn. So I am not going to tell
Speaker 1: you what to think of when you say Zionists, just
Speaker 1: like I don't know what to tell you what you
Speaker 1: think of when you say Christian. But I tell you
Speaker 1: what It ain't what the rosters mean. And I tell
Speaker 1: you what if you're sitting in Palestine right now, do
Speaker 1: it even matter the politics? All right? Now, don't you
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