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Speaker 2: Robert Evans here, it's the start of a new year.

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Speaker 2: We are continuing. We may have a rerun going this week,

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Speaker 2: but we've continued throughout the holiday season to keep a

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Speaker 2: normal schedule of Behind the Bastards out. But we're also

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Speaker 2: running compilation episodes. End of the Years started this one

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Speaker 2: how the DOJ curbed Google, and the other is on

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Speaker 1: Hey, do y'all still say curved or curbed? Like if

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Speaker 1: somebody curbed you, I don't even know if it's I

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Speaker 1: don't even know if it's curve or curved. But essentially

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Speaker 1: what we mean is maybe I'm my old head. What

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Speaker 1: we mean is when you approach a young lady and

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Speaker 1: she shut you down, like, oh man, you got curved.

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Speaker 1: You know, they just I'm pretty sure it's curved. Probably

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Speaker 1: like curb your enthusiasm. It's probably it. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if there's anything more painful, because most of the time

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Speaker 1: A lot of times is when you're super confident in

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Speaker 1: the movie You're finna make now. I can't speak for

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Speaker 1: every young man who finally hits his awakening of the

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Speaker 1: so I could ask her, like, how do I say this?

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Speaker 1: and she was like, down, to make her little brother,

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Speaker 1: Where do I stand? Like how do I I'm nervous,

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Speaker 1: but you have to understand like me, who I went

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Speaker 1: dude is just not they tight. This is way too

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Speaker 1: long of an intro Anyway. The point I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: All right, before I go into it, but look at

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Speaker 3: Bull look is like this. Bull look is like this.

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Speaker 1: The look is like this, but look at like this.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, the darkest of holidays has hit. It

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Speaker 1: is the one year anniversary of the attack from Hamas

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Speaker 1: on Israel, which, in retaliation to such attack, unleashed the

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Speaker 1: their psyche that type of sort of same vibe. But

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Speaker 1: that is not to diminish the atrocities that they feel

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Speaker 1: then with all the carnage and it be coming into

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Speaker 1: and then Yahoo won't accept it, and you still ain't

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Speaker 1: got the hostages. All that blood and you still ain't

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Speaker 1: but what is you? And then there's the other half

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Speaker 1: it's how we bring the Messiah. We gotta control this

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Speaker 1: gotta go. So it's all that going on all in

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Speaker 1: one place. The JV team had their debate switching gears.

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Speaker 1: Hear the my dad can beat up your dad debate

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Speaker 1: it was more substantive than any of us would have thought,

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Speaker 1: and it's one of those things where it's like, be

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Speaker 1: careful what you asked for. Y'all asked for civility and substance.

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Speaker 1: Vance understood the assignment. The assignment was to sanitize everything

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Speaker 1: check this a you revealed your cards, big dog. But JD.

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Speaker 1: Vance absolutely one hundred percent understood the assignment and you

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Speaker 1: cannot take that from him. He was slick, he was likable,

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Speaker 1: Now did Trump lose the election? Elect question. Now, the

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Speaker 1: thing is that's in some senses it's a gotcha question

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Speaker 1: because we all know that man can't answer that question.

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Speaker 1: Like what y'all expect this man to say? Yeah, now,

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Speaker 1: He can't do that. Y'all know he can't do that.

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Speaker 1: That'd be the end of his job. Did Trump lose

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Speaker 1: a twenty twenty election? Like Nigga dues like, you can't

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Speaker 1: last year we did an episode that was called Get

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Speaker 1: Your Weight Up, and I taught y'all about antitrust and

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Speaker 1: monopolies and the situation Google was facing. And it was

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Speaker 1: verb like it's a company, but it's also a verb.

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Speaker 1: You Google something, They're like, you're a monopoly. They're like, listen,

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Speaker 1: my competition. Full chat GBT is TikTok Amazon, I am

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Speaker 1: not competing with you other browsers and search engines. Y'all lay,

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Speaker 1: y'all need to get y'all weight up. And the argument

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Speaker 1: you a context. So their argument was, you say, we're

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Speaker 1: just get y'all weight up. I don't know why you

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Speaker 1: last time you Googled something, I'm pretty sure you got

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Speaker 1: frustrated because Google's trying to do the AI thing again

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Speaker 1: to keep up with chat GBT and so the searches

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Speaker 1: know takes trains because it just don't go enough places.

428
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: But this time it was like I didn't have to

429
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: switch once, and I was like, bro, why don't every

430
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: time I take the train? Every time I take the

431
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: metro in La I'd be like, why don't I do this?

432
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe there is an alternative anyway, So being

433
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: mad over gas prices. I'm like, what do what you

434
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: gonna not go fill up your tank? What you're gonna

435
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna not go to work? Like I felt so hopeless.

436
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a monopoly, you monopolize. So the

437
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: idea was in the anti trust law. I don't know

438
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: why they call it that, they just do. Antitrust law

439
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: is saying we do not believe in the American economics

440
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: system that it is legal or even in the spirit

441
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: of who we are as a nation, that any one

442
00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: company should have a have a monopoly over a business.

443
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: There needs to be competition, meaning there needs to be

444
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: other companies that are pushing you, because what that does

445
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: for the consumer is it means we're getting the best

446
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: products because y'all are fighting against each other for our dollars.

447
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: They're not concerned with just one company success. We're talking

448
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: overall success of the entire country because they looking at

449
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: it again as the economy as capitalism capital scene, not

450
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: just are you doing all right? We mean the whole country.

451
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: So the whole country gotta win, which means that I

452
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: don't really care if your one company is doing I

453
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: we need a whole thing to work in theory because

454
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: you could go get the off brand stuff. You grew

455
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: up like us. Oh man, there was cheerios and then

456
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: there was Maulto meal. There was tasty os. You feel me?

457
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: I was like them is nasty. I used to get

458
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: so mad when my mom brought that off brand Cereal.

459
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: I wanted the name brand Cereal. It was cheaper, but

460
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: that ain't like that ain't work.

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Speaker 2: Now.

462
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: What that meant was that made cheerios. Because my mom

463
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: sometimes was like, I ain't buying the cheerios. It costs

464
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: too much. So that means the cheerios because there's such

465
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: thing as multi meal and tasteios, fruit rings not fruit loops,

466
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: because those things existed. That meant that, like yo, cheerios,

467
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: gotta work harder to make sure that they products stay

468
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: bomb and at the price point is something that we

469
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: willing to pay. That's why there's one hundred different car

470
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: companies while they fighting for our attention, Why everybody racing

471
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 1: to get an electric car like thing with Tesla's They

472
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: was just there first. Well, actually Saturn was there first.

473
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: You should see a documentary called Who Killed the Electric Car? Anyway,

474
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: but they not the only ones. They couldn't They couldn't

475
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: get to electric car and shut the door. There's companies

476
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: like Rivian who they trucks are amazing, you know, but

477
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: there's there's other companies. There are other people making electric cars.

478
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: So it's like, yo, get your weight up, like, do

479
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: something great now. It could become a monopoly if they

480
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: do this, they take all the road mapping that they've

481
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: done with their self driving, get it perfect, and then

482
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: make sure every a new electric car has to buy

483
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: their software for the roadmapping of self driving. Like if

484
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: every new electric car had Tesla's software in there from

485
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: for their self driving cars, which right now would be

486
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: a disaster. But if they continue to develop what they

487
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: got and then they box out everybody else, it wouldn't

488
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: matter if it's a disaster or not, because every car

489
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: comes equipped with their software. That would be a monopoly,

490
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: to which they could argue, I mean, you're welcome to

491
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: uninstall it and put your own one in there. Do

492
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: you know how to uninstall software on your car? Are

493
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: you going to google it? Think about the dial up modem, sounds,

494
00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: your aim user name. We all got sidekicks, but I

495
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: don't even know if we got sidekick. It was in

496
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: pagers there. You know what I'm saying, you about to

497
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: have a sidekick, and boyd, the early Internet feels like

498
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: Caveman energy. So Microsoft, led by Bill Gates was young,

499
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: scrappy startup, you know. You I remember like at this

500
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: point McIntosh. Those was just the computers in the school lab.

501
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: Like when you went to the computer lab at school,

502
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: there was these funny look at things that we just

503
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: had to learn when we did our typing classes, you know,

504
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: you just did it on that. So Microsoft at the

505
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: time was developing Windows, right, so Windows Night, you know,

506
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: Windows ninety five and that's that, which was the operating system,

507
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: which you guys know already. And then Microsoft Office so spreadsheet,

508
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, PowerPoint, Microsoft Word and everything that comes just

509
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: Microsoftice like just mic It's Windows, like it's Microsoft. What

510
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: they started doing because Bill Gates ain't dumb, is he

511
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: was taken over while while while Apple and them was

512
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: working towards school and fun and stuff like that, Microsoft

513
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: was taken over the corporate world and every company, every

514
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: you know, work computer was a Windows and Microsoft Office.

515
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: And then eventually once we hit Windows ninety five, you

516
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: know that whole like you know, the the Apple like

517
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, sessions where they launched new products like Windows

518
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: invented that like that was Microsoft, Like it was just goofy.

519
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: Even the user video, the training video for how to

520
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: use Microsoft Office and Windows ninety five had believe it

521
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: or not, actors from Friends from the show Friends was

522
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: on it. Jay Leno did the monologue like it was

523
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: the biggest thing in the world because because it was

524
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 1: just change. You gotta remember this is where tech was.

525
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: And what else that they did that was amazing was

526
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: if you bought a laptop, you gotta remember there was

527
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: a million different types of laptops. You remember HP, you

528
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: remember Acer, You could get any type of just like

529
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: before the iPod there was zooms, like there was a

530
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: million different other products. And then somebody takes over and

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00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: just wins. The thing what Microsoft did was they cut

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00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: a deal with PC and laptop companies and was like, yo,

533
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: so let us be yo default operating system. So if

534
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: anybody wants to use another operating system and OS like

535
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: a Macintosh, you got to take all that stuff off

536
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: and put a new one in. Now, MACINTOS was smart

537
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: enough to say, no, our operating system works on our

538
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: products only, but set that to a side. Right now,

539
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: Microsoft was like cool, y'all can have your own little

540
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: weird egg shape computers will take over every other computer

541
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: on earth. And that's kind of what they did. They

542
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: just cut a deal. And it was just like yeah, dude,

543
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: like yo, if you're selling a laptop, you're selling a desktop.

544
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: It's got Microsoft operating system already installed. So we already

545
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: got a deal. So we didn't even got to sell

546
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 1: it to the consumers. It's already sold to the manufacturer.

547
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: Kind of brilliant. I mean, why wouldn't you do that? Now,

548
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: while this is happening, something else was being invented, a

549
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: little thing called the World Wide Web. The Internet was

550
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: being made around this time. Sorry about that. Next, Okay,

551
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: so now that the Internet's being made, you know, you

552
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: gotta buy your modems. What nobody thought about, because you

553
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: have to remember, nobody knew what the Internet was, is

554
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: you have to have a way to get on there. Browser. No,

555
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: you need a browser. It's so stupid, Like it's so stupid.

556
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: I have to point that out right. And because there

557
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: was no separate apps for your emails or for there

558
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: was no apps, the apps were Microsoft. You need a

559
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: browser to get on the internet. The browser, there was

560
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: a lot of different types. There's Navigator, there was Netscape,

561
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: and at the time, that's all the Netscape made. They

562
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: were the only browsers. I mean, it was fine, Like

563
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: what else did we know you got on the Internet

564
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: with on a Netscape browser? But your little AOL disc,

565
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: which we're gonna talk about in a second bunch. Your

566
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: little AOL disc, you popped it in, you clicked the

567
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: disc and then it would throw the Netscape like you

568
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: just that was the only how you opened the Internet

569
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: was the of course, now we you know we got Chrome, Firefox, Safari,

570
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: like we got those things. But you gotta remember, like

571
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: we didn't none of those things. We didn't know what

572
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: those things meant. Like one of those things existed. Netscape

573
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: was how you got to the Internet. Bill Gates ain't stupid.

574
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, this the future. We need a

575
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: hold up, we need a browser. His browser was called

576
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: Internet Explorer. That's how you got on the Internet. His

577
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: browser was trash right, because they was too busy making

578
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: too many different things. They was making Laptouser was making office,

579
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: they was making windows. It was making all these different things.

580
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: It didn't really make browsers. But he's not stupid. He

581
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 1: knew that this was the future. So the browser got

582
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: better and better and better, and then he realized, like,

583
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I have a million vendors I work with.

584
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: Every laptop already has my product in it. Stupid, why

585
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: don't I bundle Internet Explorer with it? As a matter

586
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: of fact, I'll throw an Internet Exploorer free. It just

587
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: comes with It comes with Microsoft, it comes with Windows.

588
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: Windows is already on every laptop. I'll just it's so stupid, like, duh,

589
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: I don't even have to sell it. I'm already nobody.

590
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: Can you name another word processing? What's the mac with numbers?

591
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: Adobe pages? I'm saying, even now, we don't use it.

592
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: Maybe you write in Google Docs, which we're gonna get

593
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: to later, but nobody writes it like it's it's you

594
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: use word almost two decades right, like you what else

595
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: is there? So they were like, duh, let's just add

596
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: our product. Let's just add Explorer to every laptop. Obviously.

597
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: Netscape's like, well, wait a damn minute, bro, are you serious?

598
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: So you're just gonna sell the product for free? Well, like,

599
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean there's nothing, Well I mean, what cash, You're

600
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: already on every laptop? Like this is they were like,

601
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: you're breaking antitrust laws. So they wrote a letter to

602
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice like yo, fam, I can't like,

603
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: can't nobody compete with this? This ain't right two hundred

604
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: pays letter. Justice Department was like, huh, you might be

605
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: on the something because like you're like, this is what

606
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: seems to us, like this is anti competition, Like you

607
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: just boxed everybody out, like you just gave everybody the

608
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: product for freech gave everybody to wait free. Somebody come

609
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: in your hood and just passing out weed for free.

610
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: It's like, well, how can I run a business? Like

611
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't understand, like if if every car come through

612
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: your neighborhood has already got a vapor in it, Like well,

613
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: I mean what I'm supposed to do? Why you think

614
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: the gas company so mad? Or why you think these

615
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: oil companies so mad about electric cars because it's like, oh, nigga,

616
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't need you no more, Like wait a minute,

617
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: this is leading us to obsolescence. But they're but but

618
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: what's specifically about an anti trust is or this monopoly

619
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: is like this is the same product, and you guys

620
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: are like this is David and Goliath out this mug

621
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: like you already like there's no I can't compete with this.

622
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: This is like there is no competition. I don't want

623
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: to get into the like operator system business, like we

624
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: make an Internet browser and you're just giving yours away

625
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: for free and even if people don't want it, ah,

626
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: which is where we get what has to do with

627
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: Google Even if people don't want it, it just comes

628
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: with the lap So of course, like just the psychology

629
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: of it is like, well, this is the one that

630
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: come with it. So like why would I go out

631
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: of my way unless I'm a tech geek, why would

632
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: I go out of my way? It's just it come

633
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: with it. We don't know enough about the Internet to

634
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: have a preference about it. We don't know about incognito

635
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: like that stuff don't exist no more or yet, So

636
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: what difference does it make? All right, let's Internet Explorer.

637
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: And it made sense to us because it was like

638
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: or to the it made sense to the consumer because

639
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: it's like, well it's made from the same company that

640
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: when I open the laptop, that's how it runs. They

641
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: was like, yo, this is unjust like this ain't they

642
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: can do whatever they want. And I remember remember the

643
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 1: browser was trashed like it wasn't it wasn't that good

644
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: of a browser, Like it just like what do you

645
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what I can I mean, And they

646
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: had no incentive on making it better per se, because

647
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: they done already sold the product completely. They didn't already

648
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: made day money off off Windows and off office. So

649
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: there's no like you've cornered the market. There's no there's

650
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: there's you, no one can compete with you. So they

651
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: brought that case to the Department of Justice. Netscape did

652
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: so Netscape bring brings brings a case to the Department

653
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: of Justice. They was like just like I just explained,

654
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: like yo, this is a monopoly dog, Like there's nothing

655
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: we could do about it, Like I mean, what are

656
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: we gonna do. It's already on your laptop. I bet

657
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: you open your door you get a new computer today,

658
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: bet you it's already there. Like how do I compete

659
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: with that? Like that's not what am I supposed to do.

660
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: They bring in Microsoft to be like okay, well, and

661
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: this is like legendary, like so Bill Gates and and

662
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: Microsoft come in and Microsoft was just like okay, that's funny.

663
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Wait what wait are y'all serious? Hold up this. There's

664
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Speaker 1: no way in the world you're serious right now? What

665
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: did you What you're saying is absolutely ridiculous. Let me

666
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: get this straight. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold hold on,

667
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: let me let me get this straight. We made a product,

668
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: we made smart business moves, We used our connections, we

669
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: developed a new product. We took our own product, bundled

670
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: it with our other own product, and use the connections

671
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: that we took years to develop. And you saying that's

672
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: a problem. What you mean, like, what is the problem?

673
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: You can't possibly be or you're so we're smart. You're

674
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: punishing me for beists. What are you talking to You're

675
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 1: saying this is anti capitalists. I don't understand. So should

676
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: our products up? Should we not try what you want

677
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: us to? Not make money? What are you talking about?

678
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: This is absurd? Fuck you mean we made a product

679
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: that we hustled. I don't understand. Tell them foods to

680
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 1: get their weight up. Ain't nothing stopping you from finding

681
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: a computer? You could You could approach them with the

682
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: same contract we approached them with, get your weight up.

683
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't understand. We approach these people, We approach these manufacturers.

684
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: They could have said no, they said yes, what do

685
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: you want me to do? You want me to tell

686
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: the consumers don't buy our product? What are you talking about?

687
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely ridiculous, was Microsoft's argument. The problem was they just

688
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 1: walked in super smug and super arrogant, and they were

689
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 1: just like I'm saying, like we smarter than everyone It

690
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: was our fault. We're smarter than everybody else. Apartment just

691
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: ain't like that. Dain't like your little attitude. They asked

692
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: him very very direct questions, like Yo, do you remember

693
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: this email? They pulling up emails where them Foods was

694
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: talking this is the first time that was like a

695
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: part of like because I remember emails just now were born,

696
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: pulling up emails where they were like knife the Baby

697
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: like talking about like really we're trying to kill Netscape,

698
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: like that's our goal, Like we're actually trying to get

699
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: like just cutthroat like Silicon Valley like og Like, no,

700
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: we're actually trying to kill kill it. They was like, yo,

701
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: you remember this email? He was like no, Like you

702
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: don't remember the one? You just replied He's like, no,

703
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: I remember it. It was just a jerk about it.

704
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: Like they were like, hey, uh, did you have any

705
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: concern about any other companies. He was like, what, I

706
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: don't understand the question. It was like what what don't

707
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: you understand? He's like, what do you mean by concern?

708
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean by that? And they

709
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: were like do you know what concern means? Like I

710
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: know what it means. I don't know what you mean

711
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: by that. It was like, sir, do you okay? Just

712
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: this like smug, I'm smarter than you, I'm ten steps

713
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: ahead of you. Just it just turned everybody out, but

714
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: they're Ultimately their point was Okay, dude, you can't punish

715
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: us because their product sucks, like that can't be that

716
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: can't possibly be our fault. We're good at business. This

717
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: is what happened. Department Adjustice was like, no, that's a monopoly.

718
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: Y'all gotta break this company up because the straw that

719
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: broke the camera back was carrying office and windows with Explorer.

720
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: That's the part that did it. Because it's like you've

721
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: made now nobody has any other options. That's the same

722
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: example I was given with Tesla, because the point is,

723
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: on general principles, consumers are supposed to have options, and

724
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: the argument is having options keeps everybody in check, right,

725
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: because if you have options, that's gonna force you to

726
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: make the better product. And if you baking the better product,

727
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: that make all of America look good, consumers are happy.

728
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: Money is flowing, right, that's the argument. And again using

729
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: the Testla as an example, like I just said, right now,

730
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: then I just say that I'm sorry, I'm just talking

731
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: if every electric car in the future, if you want

732
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: to do self driving mode, you have to use this

733
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: because it's the default setting. And this gives Tesla no

734
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: incentive to like they could charge every car company whatever

735
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: they want, because who else you're gonna go to, which

736
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: means that that is going to raise the prices for

737
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: all of our cars, which means it's gonna ranse the

738
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: price for chips and all this good stuff. You're just like,

739
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: there's no like, this doesn't help nobody. This just makes

740
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: you by yourself rich and all of us got to

741
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: suffer by it. So that's that's the theory. Nobody's happy

742
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: with that except for y'all. And we just decided as

743
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: a nation back in the seventeen hundreds that we wasn't

744
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: gonna be like that. In theory. Now, what they told

745
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: them that they had to do was break the company up.

746
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: You have to put Windows in one place as one

747
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: company in office as another company. Is that how you

748
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: understand Microsoft? Of course not, because that didn't happen. Essentially,

749
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: what they did was just they paid the fines, they

750
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: did what they had to do, and then they just

751
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: promised to not be jerks. This really really ain't nothing happened.

752
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: So ultimately nothing changed. Netscape ended up selling to AOL.

753
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: Microsoft just had this ruling stand that they were operating

754
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: as a monopoly. But since God is good and just

755
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: when last time you opened then Internet Explorer browser. Now,

756
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: this is what the Department of Justice was considering when

757
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: they looked at this Google case. Now let's talk about

758
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: specifically the ruling. Now, remember Google, the company is called

759
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: alphabet for whatever reason. The ruling was that they illegally

760
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: monopolized the search engine market. Now, and here's how they

761
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: did it. Now, they did it the same way Microsoft

762
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: did it, in the sense that you just if you're

763
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: a software company, duh, make deals with hardware companies. So

764
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: what Google did was like, I don't care if you

765
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: using Chrome, you if even if you use Safari, whatever

766
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: phone you got when you open it, make a deal

767
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: with us where you automatically your search engine goes to Google.

768
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: When the last time you said I'm gonna bing something,

769
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask Jeeves something, No, you google it. So

770
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: they made deals with phonemakers and other hardware folks to

771
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: be like, look, just let us be your default browser.

772
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: Now.

773
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: You all know, you could go into your phone, you

774
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: could go into your settings and say, like, I want

775
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: this other thing to be the default. But who's gonna

776
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: do that? Some people do, like some of y'all folks

777
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: who just are like anti iPhone because you believe in freedom,

778
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: you want to Android, which is just another company, Like

779
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: I don't understand how y'all don't understand that, but your

780
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: belief is you want to be able to customize it

781
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: in the way that you want to customize it, because

782
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: app will tell you what to do. And one of

783
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: the things that Apple tell you to do is like

784
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: it's automatically gonna go to a Google. Now, with that

785
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: being automatically your search engine and them gathering a trillion

786
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: kajillion mega coad billion probably flowbally fillion megabits of information

787
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: on us, they can sell ad spaces. So if you

788
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: are a person like me who make they living online.

789
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: I mean you have to. You have to use the

790
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: Google market, you have to use their ad spaces, you

791
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: have to do search engine optimization, you have to be

792
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: able to show up in their ad revenue space because

793
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: that's where everybody at Why the hell would you buy

794
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: an ad at Binga? What is that gonna do for you?

795
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: And if and since they're the only people in town,

796
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: they're the only people that really makes sense to spend

797
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: your money on, they could charge you whatever they want.

798
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why terraform cobrew wasn't on Amazon

799
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: because I would lose two dollars per can, like I

800
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: would you like I would be paying them like there's

801
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: no But at the same time, terrify and call brew

802
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: out of money. If you went to the website, it

803
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: ain't no coffee there because I'm out of money. Un

804
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, Like they make it where I mean,

805
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: what are your other options? That's that phrase, like what's

806
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: my other option? That is a monopoly? Now what Google

807
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: argued was the same thing and Microsoft argued, which was like, fam,

808
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for being good at my business, but people

809
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: can do whatever they want. We just happened to try

810
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: to give people an offer they came to use. Now,

811
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: what was interesting this time was the Supreme Court brought

812
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: up not just x's and o's. It wasn't just business

813
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: and like nerdery around the law. They brought up psychology.

814
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: And it's this concept called the psychology of the default. No, no, no,

815
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: let me say it right, the power of default. Now,

816
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: you and I I don't even have to explain that.

817
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: You understand when something is just your default setting you

818
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: just after a while because something just becomes so normal

819
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: you don't even think about that there are other alternatives,

820
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: like you'd have to go out of your way to

821
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: do that. That's the default. And what they were arguing

822
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: is that is proof of a monopoly in our brains.

823
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: Google's a verb despite the quality of Google, because you

824
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: probably experienced the same thing I'm experiencing when you try

825
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: to Google something. It's like because of AAI thing, I'm like, y'all,

826
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 1: your product's getting worse. Now, that's probably because we're old

827
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: and we're not searching on TikTok, which is where the

828
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: rest of the people search, which was Google's defense. Google's like,

829
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Netscape or ask jeeves I'm worried

830
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: about talk like that's a search engine, and they're like, fam, no,

831
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: it's not. What are you talking about. The psychology or

832
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: the power of the default is when your brand is

833
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: so strong that you just don't think of you don't

834
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: even think of course there's alternatives, you don't even think

835
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: of it, which is like a new strategy to argue

836
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: that somebody has a monopoly. So what's the solution. The

837
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: solution is to break up the company. That's that's that's

838
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: usually what it means. Now, Like I told you before,

839
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: what happened with Microsoft was basically like they were supposed

840
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: to split up Microsoft Office from from Windows. So that's

841
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: that was the plan for Google. It's like you, I remember,

842
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: this is a alphabet's a two trillion dollar company. So

843
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: one of the suggestions was like divest divesting the Android

844
00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: operating system was like the most frequently discussed option by

845
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: the Justice Department's attorney. And then some were suggesting the

846
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: force of the ad words like you have to sell

847
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: that and Google gotta let go of that program, right,

848
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: the search ad program, right, a divestment from that from

849
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Speaker 1: its Chrome web browser. But at the end of the day,

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00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: they haven't landed on an actual verdict as to how

851
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: to solve this. They've just said, no, you violated antitrust laws.

852
00:52:30,080 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: You want have to break up this company, just curved them. Now,

853
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: things like this is where your super conservative capitalists argues

854
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: is a problem because it seems as though this is

855
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Speaker 1: not free market capitalism. They're like, let the consumer decide.

856
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 1: We just did good business and the government shouldn't interfere.

857
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: These are the same people that don't want the EPA

858
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Speaker 1: to exist. You know, so if there's mad coal's disease

859
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: and your beef, they like, people will stop buying it,

860
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Speaker 1: so just leave us alone. That's their argument, Like, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean till everybody else get their weight up. They

862
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Speaker 1: don't want no interference, which I guess I would understand

863
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Speaker 1: too if I owned a company and was making a

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Speaker 1: kajillion dollars. But I'm a consumer that really just want

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Speaker 1: to be able to have good products, afford products we have,

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Speaker 1: and not hear somebody like Jeff Bezos in his rocket

867
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Speaker 1: that looked like a penis who didn't even actually make

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Speaker 1: it in the space and then to say, hey, you

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Speaker 1: guys did this by buying stuff, like don't nobody want

870
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Speaker 1: to see that like. Okay, listen, here's the underbelly. We know,

871
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Speaker 1: all right. The thing is, we ain't got no choice.

872
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: Amazon might be next in this. This is the deal

873
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: we've made without having an option to make this deal.

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00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: We know we're making y'all rich, but we also need

875
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Speaker 1: to live. And sometimes if you that person man the

876
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Speaker 1: consumer like us, it kind of feel good that there's

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Speaker 1: some big homies that might be able to come in

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, y'all, don't get to treat the little

879
00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 1: hummies like that, because and that's some good stuff hood politics, y'all.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, don't you hit stop on this pod.

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Speaker 1: You better listen to these credits. I need you to

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Speaker 1: finish this thing so I can get the download numbers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so don't stop it yet, but listen. This was recorded

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Speaker 1: a member of cool Zone Media, executive produced by Sophie Lichterman,

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Speaker 1: part of the iHeartMedia podcast network. Your theme music and

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Speaker 1: scoring is also by the one and nobly Matdawsowski. Still

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Speaker 1: killing the beat softly, So listen, don't let nobody lie

899
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Speaker 1: to you. If you understand urban living, you understand politics.

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00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all

901
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: next week. Words are funny. That's how I'm opening this

902
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Speaker 1: because look, they're sound that we just decided meant stuff

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Speaker 1: to the point of where sounds can make you take

904
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Speaker 1: somebody life. And sometimes the same sound can mean different

905
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Speaker 1: things depending on their spelling their context. Give an example,

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Speaker 1: when black people say barbecue, we could be talking about

907
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: three different things. We could be talking about the food

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00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: barbecue we could be talking about as in like the

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00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: style of cooking barbecue. The food we could be talking

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00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: about the actual act of cooking that food. To barbecue,

911
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: we could be talking about an event. We are going

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Speaker 1: to the barbecue. You not invited to the barbecue. The

913
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: what the East called a cookout, we called a barbecue

914
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: out here out west. You know. It's the same with

915
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: the Latinos. Like with Mexicans. They say the kasada, they

916
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Speaker 1: mean one of three things. They mean the act of grilling.

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Speaker 1: We are going to have it. Cardoyna SAIDA. That is

918
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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a barbecue. We're gonna grill, and we

919
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Speaker 1: are going to eat. Cardia like, they just it's the

920
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Speaker 1: name of the food, it's the act of grilling, and

921
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Speaker 1: it's the event. So that's the Mexican version of saying.

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00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: When we be like, oh, you ain't invited to the barbecue,

923
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: they say, you're not invited to the Cardia SAIDA, Like,

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Speaker 1: that's what they mean. The word is the same. It

925
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Speaker 1: means three different things depending on the context and when

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Speaker 1: it's coming out their mouth. You could figure out what's happening. Now.

927
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Speaker 1: I say all that to get very serious on to

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Speaker 1: talk about the words zion, Oh, it's about to get

929
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Speaker 1: I felt like I heard the record scratch right now,

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Speaker 1: Because if you've listened to reggae music, if you've heard

931
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: anything made by Bob Marley. You done have heard the

932
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: word Zion many times. You're a fan of Lauren Hill.

933
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Speaker 1: What's the name of her child? Zion? Now the joy

934
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: and mild in Zion? Black people love Zion, Moltzion. A

935
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: boy on the side of Babylon trying to front like

936
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Speaker 1: you're down with mozoyon u la la la is the

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Speaker 1: way that we rock with. We're doing out they the

938
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Speaker 1: black hotep rosta, you know, chew stick. We'd love Zion.

939
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: We're chanting down Babylon. Babylon is will be defeated by

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Speaker 1: Mount Zion? Is that the same Zion in Israel and Palestine?

941
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: What y'all mean by that? Then? What the hell is

942
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: a Zionist? So is that somebody that believe in Mount Zion? Like?

943
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Speaker 1: What how? What is Zionism? And I'm sure if you

944
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Speaker 1: listen to this show data ops, right, you you convince

945
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: Zion like those are the ops. So I don't know

946
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Speaker 1: if the thought has ever crossed your mind to be like, well,

947
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: is is the Zionism that y'all talking about the same Zion?

948
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Speaker 1: And Zion is that the rosters are talking about? What? What? What?

949
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: Maybe this's never crossed your mind, but it's the the

950
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Speaker 1: word needs to be dissected. So I am using this

951
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Speaker 1: moment to teach you two things. What do the rosters

952
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Speaker 1: mean when they say zion and what is Zionism and

953
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Speaker 1: its history? All right, to a politics, Okay, listen first

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Speaker 1: before I get into it. This week is like this.

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Speaker 3: What look is like this? What look is like this?

956
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: It's like this, son, it's like that sign I'm pumping.

957
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: Let me take the news serious, all right, this week

958
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Speaker 1: it's like this. Well, the Olympics, and I'm only excited

959
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: about breaking. I'm sad that it's not going to be

960
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty eight. And it's not because of ray Gun.

961
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Speaker 1: They decided before her that they weren't gonna do it

962
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Speaker 1: in LA, which sucks. I don't know why they decided that,

963
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: but they decided that way back in twenty twenty. Having

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Speaker 1: said that, speaking of ray Gun, I know she's taken

965
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: over to memes. I feel bad for these amazing bee

966
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: boys and be girls, specifically Logistics. Sorry, that's a text.

967
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: Specifically Logistics. I knock murdered them fools. And while she

968
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Speaker 1: was in the middle of slaying, absolutely slaying ray Gun,

969
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Have you ever been in a battle. Okay,

970
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: now I'm from La. So that double time kind of

971
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: what you think is bone thugs and harmony chopping stuff

972
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: that originates at a place called the Good Life Project

973
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: blowed this group called Freestyle Fellowship, and that is a

974
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Speaker 1: sound that just kind of came from the La underground.

975
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Speaker 1: Min figured rymee looking at a time like, I don't

976
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: rap like that. So if you're at a spot and

977
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Speaker 1: you're battling somebody and they killing it on the double time,

978
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: it's killing the crowd you have. You I can't compete

979
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: with that. You gotta go all the way the other way.

980
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: You gotta get real creative and try to do something else.

981
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: So for me it becomes I'm gonna try to do

982
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: the contrast and do sort of a slow flow with

983
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Speaker 1: a gang of wordplay and get really creative with a pattern.

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Speaker 1: My time rhymes to find the mind saturn roller skate

985
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: rhymes to find the kind kattern pump a bone battern

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Speaker 1: for the full flatter you will flatter you know what

987
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'll make you scatter her like just something else.

988
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: You gotta take a chance and sometimes it lands, sometimes

989
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't. Okay, you get creative, you take a shot

990
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: like take old dirty bastard, he don't rap like the

991
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: rest of uteg Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. And

992
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: I picked up when she was throwing down. She was

993
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: trying trying to rep the Ausie Land, do animal style

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01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: kangaroo hops to reper soil and be creative. Sometimes it works,

995
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: sometimes it don't. Now I don't know nothing about her

996
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: husband being in charge of no thing and all that

997
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: good stuff that they were saying. All I know is

998
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: you have to battle a lot of people to get

999
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Speaker 1: to the top, and battling is very subjective, and sometimes

1000
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Speaker 1: creativity and style points count. But when your creativity just

1001
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: swinging a miss, she clearly don't have no power moves.

1002
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: She was battling logistics who got style, finess, flavored dance,

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01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: intangibles and power moves. What are you gonna do? I

1004
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: saw a headspinning there, But she clearly don't have no

1005
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: power moves, so she's trying to fight back with style.

1006
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 1: Just didn't work. So I'm saying this as somebody who

1007
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: has been in a battle, and sometimes you lose your

1008
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: train of thought and the words sound like gibber is

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Speaker 1: she she took a creative chance, and it was a

1010
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: swing and a miss. Sometimes it happens on a serious note. Okay,

1011
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: receipts are being pulled on walls and on JD and

1012
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: everybody involved, and we're trying to figure it out. The

1013
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: Democrats are doing their best to make Project twenty twenty

1014
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: five Trump's thing, which it is not. It is somebody

1015
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: trying to tie it to Trump. I can't believe I'm

1016
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: saying this in his defense. That is a lot of overlap,

1017
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Speaker 1: but that's their own thing now Trump, it's all caps

1018
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: saying Trump he don't know who the people are because

1019
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: he know who they are and he know what they want.

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Speaker 1: So that's cap but it's in his defense, is not

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Speaker 1: his now. Secondly, in JD. Vance's defense, I know, I

1022
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: know what it sounds like, but I'm gonna say it.

1023
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: He being dragged over this app Harvest startup. So that

1024
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: was a company that was an agricultural company that was

1025
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: supposed to be an Appalachia and was going to give

1026
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of jobs to the area. Everybody got excited.

1027
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: It was like, dope, man, he one of us, or

1028
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: at least you told us he one of us. It's

1029
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Speaker 1: gonna be a fresh job. Now again, he was an

1030
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: investor and he was just on the board. Now I

1031
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: have sat on a couple boards. And just because you're

1032
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: on the board don't mean you in charge of operation now.

1033
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: And just because you're an investor don't mean you in

1034
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: charge of the money now. You got a lot to say, obviously,

1035
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: but you can't necessarily be blamed for everything to go bad,

1036
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: and you can't necessarily take the praise for everything that

1037
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: go good. Not not only did this business fail before

1038
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: it failed, and they was talking about it was one

1039
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty degrees inside that building because it's a greenhouse.

1040
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: The conditions were terrible. And while everybody was like, man,

1041
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: I can't work in here, they brought in not a

1042
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: couple migrant workers, not even Mike, undocumented, five hundred of them,

1043
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: five hundred undocumented workers, which in any other scenario, all right,

1044
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: what do I care? The reason why any of us

1045
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Speaker 1: care is because you supposed to be Captain Appalachia. You

1046
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: called yourself that. If you didn't call yourself Captain Appalachia,

1047
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: it would have just been a failed thing. But you

1048
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: set yourself up as Robinhood of the Woods. So since

1049
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: you did that, you. I mean, what you're gonna say, Homie,

1050
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Speaker 1: I saw your watch you confront like you one of us.

1051
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: But that ain't really hurt nobody. Now you're hurting us

1052
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: saying you one of us. So he's gonna have to

1053
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: answer to that. And his answer was, yeah, sucked. I

1054
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 1: invested and I was on the board, but I mean

1055
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Speaker 1: I wasn't in charge. And in his defense, he's right

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01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: now if there's walls, could tark y'all still calling that

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01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: man tampon ten as if you ain't. All you got

1058
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:44,439
Speaker 1: to do, beloved is read it. You can read the law.

1059
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: It is all over Beyonce's Internet. I'm an read it

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01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: for you. Article one, General Education, Section one one twenty

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01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: one a dot two twelve. Access to menstrual products. A

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01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: school district charter must provide students with access to menstrual

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01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: products at no charge. The products must be available to

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01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in

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01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: grades four through twelve, according to the plan developed by

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Speaker 1: the school district for purposes of this section. Menstrual products

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01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection

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01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: to menstrual cycle. That's it. That's what the law say,

1069
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: not the whole reputting tampos and boys bathrooms. I mean, okay,

1070
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: I just read you the law. That's what the law say.

1071
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: So just you know, cap down a little bit. Now.

1072
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: The DNC has started. We looking for you to put

1073
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: some words to your excitement, Auntie. We looking for Joe

1074
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: to like, you know, go out in a blaze of glory.

1075
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: And uh, it's all week this week. Now. I did

1076
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: get to watch a lot of Mondays, not enough to

1077
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: do a full recap. But the thing that's most interesting

1078
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: right now is the comparison to the nineteen sixty eight one,

1079
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: which was there's a lot of similarities. There was a

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01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: huge protest that happened in sixty eight against the Vietnam war,

1081
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: and right now there's a huge protest going on against

1082
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: the war in Gaza. The difference in nineteen sixty eight

1083
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 1: and now is the cops beat the breaks off them

1084
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: protesters on TV like we all saw it this time.

1085
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: See Robert and Sophie and Garre are out there and

1086
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 1: they pretty much kind of behaved. It's pretty chill, you know.

1087
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: Now we'll see, but right now it's being pretty chill

1088
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: relatively speaking, and What's different this time is Joe went

1089
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: off script. Joe said, you know what, them protesters out there,

1090
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: they got a point. Innocent people being killed on both sides. Now, now,

1091
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: Sophie says she got a view of the teleprompter that

1092
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: wasn't on the script. Now, of course we're all grabbing

1093
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: for scraps, but good for him, that's a good scrap

1094
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: to grab. I'm so glad you acknowledged it, rather than

1095
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: acting like it's just a party on the inside. The

1096
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: campaigns of Harris and of Trump have been hacked by Iran,

1097
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: according to the US Intelligence It's not like this wasn't expected.

1098
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: Country has been tapping into our elections as a sport.

1099
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: They've been doing this for a long time. Iran is

1100
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: not happy. Iran is like you not only did you

1101
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: kill Cosumsulamani, you just popped another. We believe you just

1102
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: popped another person on our soil recently. Because you gotta remember,

1103
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: like Israel and America are interchangeable. To them, they don't

1104
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: ain't no difference share. That means that y'all need to

1105
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: double check all sources. That mean you need to question

1106
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: everything coming at you and keep your antennas high. You know.

1107
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: Another interesting difference is is that the news didn't report it.

1108
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: They didn't report the stuff that was in the leak,

1109
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, and man in twenty sixteen, this was like

1110
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: catnip all the leaks, you know, butter emails. It's almost

1111
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: like we learned a lesson, like you know, and there's

1112
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: a few ways to look at it, right, It's like, hey,

1113
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: like if it's something in there that's like really like

1114
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: American people need to know, It's like, what's your duty

1115
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: as the media to be like, Okay, I know how

1116
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: we got it, but like it's kind of too real

1117
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: to talk about it. To not talk about it. On

1118
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: the other hand, it's like, you know when people make

1119
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: fun of your little brother and they be right about him,

1120
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: but you can't make fun of him. I don't want

1121
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: to hear from you, Like you can't say nothing about

1122
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: my little brother, your mom being like you telling on

1123
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: your little brother, your mom, Like why you snitching? I

1124
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: don't want to hear from you, just because like, no,

1125
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 1: you don't get to talk about it. So the news

1126
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: was like, I mean, thank you because they sent they

1127
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: sent the content of the hacks to Pro Publica. They

1128
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you can have it pro public. It

1129
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool, thank you, but like, I don't

1130
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: need to get this from you, I mean respect. And

1131
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: finally there's another rumor of a ceasefire deal, and I

1132
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: say rumor because that's exactly what it sounds like because

1133
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 1: Anthony Lincoln like, yo, it's good. We just waiting on

1134
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: her mask Benjamin. Then Y'ALLHO said, like, I ain't agree

1135
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: to nothing. I don't know what you're talking about. They

1136
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: still haven't met our turns. And in the middle of that,

1137
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 1: we just still sent twenty million dollars to them people.

1138
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: So let's be real. Can't nobody to really tell another

1139
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: country what to do? You can't, really, There's no way

1140
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: an American president can stop a country from going to

1141
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: war to another country. But what they can do is

1142
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: not pay for it. Anyway, let's get to what Zion

1143
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: is like this all right now, I'm back now listen,

1144
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: I am going to do both these things an incredible

1145
01:11:55,240 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: injustice because both of these topics will take a lifetime

1146
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: to understand, and both of these topics could have many

1147
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: different interpretations depending on your understanding of history, politics, religion.

1148
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 1: Remember when I wanted to talk to y'all about the

1149
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 1: whothi's husblah, all of these different topics where I'm like,

1150
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: when you get into a religion, just like listen, listen

1151
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: when I say Christian, it's the same concept. When I

1152
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: say Christian. We talk about Manzion all the time. Matter

1153
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: of fact, if you black, you probably went to Mount

1154
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: zion A and me new geth semity Church of God

1155
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: at Christ Now I made that up right Now, there's

1156
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: probably is a new guest. There's probably a Mount zion

1157
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: A and me. I know there is is one in

1158
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: South Central. What I'm trying to say is we use

1159
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: these terms all the time because they in the Bible.

1160
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: But when I say Christian, that's what I mean. Now,

1161
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: when you say Christian, you may think Holy Roller Pentecosta,

1162
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: you may think Trump, you may think you may think Catholic,

1163
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 1: you may think there's so many other things you might

1164
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: think that are all these different. So you asked, you

1165
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 1: asked ten different Christians what does it mean to be Christian?

1166
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna get ten different answers most likely. Remember we

1167
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: did the Terrorform episode with the hommy Kevin Garcia and

1168
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: I tried to break down in the beginning. It was tough,

1169
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: but I tried to give y'all a cursory understanding of

1170
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: like Western Church history. You see how I had to

1171
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: give that caveat that I'm talking about Western Church, like,

1172
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: we ain't talking Coptic, we not talking Greek Orthodox, were

1173
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: not talking Russian Jesuit. Like there's this You could really

1174
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: get lost in the week. So please give me that

1175
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: grace that what I am about to talk to you

1176
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: about is grossly trunk cadd Okay, But it's just to

1177
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 1: help y'all understand, so that as you have your picket

1178
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: signs out that at least you don't sound like I heard.

1179
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: So first let me teach y'all what arasam mean when

1180
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 1: they say mon Zion and I'm sorry about my patois Rastadi. Okay, First,

1181
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: let me step back and say what I'm what is Rastafarianism?

1182
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: Now I would say, like globally, it's probably one of

1183
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: the youngest world religions, getting its roots by name in

1184
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties, deriving from the Ethiopian emperor Hali Selassii. Okay, now,

1185
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: as I say this again, like a rasta Rastafari, like

1186
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: this is not a compartmentalized philosophy or religion this is

1187
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: a way of life, right, a liberty. You know, this

1188
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: is this is our culture, our heritage, our history, right

1189
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: and our way of being, which some could argue is well,

1190
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: that's the definition of a religion. Religion a way of

1191
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: being right, your your liturgy. Anyway, there is an encompassing

1192
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: around this. Now it is impossible to separate Rasta from

1193
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 1: the africanness of it. Okay, So the belief is this

1194
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: when you listen to roots reggae, when you listen to

1195
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: you know, Bob Marley and them, like, there's so much

1196
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: to cover. Dance hall like, that's the club music, roots reggae,

1197
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: like you think of this as like worship, like this

1198
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: is praise and worship. There is a tie going back

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01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: to the Queen of Sheba and King Solomon. Now I'm

1200
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: getting into my Old Testament. This is why there's so

1201
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: much Judaism and christian tied to it, because there is

1202
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: a belief that it's and it's and rightfully so, because

1203
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: if you believe the Bible, it's in the scriptures. Is

1204
01:15:55,600 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: that the Queen of Sheba, which was it's believed to

1205
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 1: be an ancient queen from the region of Ethiopia. Now

1206
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: obviously Ethiopia is a nation state, but Ethiopia as a

1207
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: continual connection of tribes a Romo Tigrei like just the

1208
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: different tribes that are there they have. Ethiopia and Thailand

1209
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 1: shares the legacy of being the only two countries that

1210
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: were never colonized or conquered. It's not Israel. Italy almost did, right,

1211
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: the British almost did, but they were never able to

1212
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: actually colonize Ethiopia. And Ethiopia takes a lot of pride

1213
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: in this, so a lot of their lineage and heritage.

1214
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: Because their history wasn't cut off or attempted to be erased,

1215
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: you can know a lot about them. Ethiopia in the

1216
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: scriptures in the Bible is called the land of Kush.

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01:16:55,160 --> 01:17:01,679
Speaker 1: Also right, it's believed that Moses's wife's Poora was from

1218
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: Ethiopia when Moses. This is all Old Testament stuff, but

1219
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: it's all makes sense. It all makes sense as to

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01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: why the connection is so important to him. Moses before

1221
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 1: the whole let my people go, before the ten Commandments

1222
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 1: type joint. Moses supposedly, according to the story, saw a

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01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: one of Pharaoh's guards abusing one of the Jewish slaves,

1224
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: and he hopped up and killed the guy, and then

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01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: he had to run. And so then when he ran,

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01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: he ran to the to Midian and he married Jethrow's daughter.

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01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: And it was believed that that area was Ethiopia. Okay,

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01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: so like that at least the region that we now

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01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: call Ethiopia. So there's this belief that Moses's first bite

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01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: was you fast forward to Solomon, King David, King David's son, right,

1231
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: the writer of Psalms, and it's believed that, according to

1232
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: the passages, that he had never seen anybody more beautiful

1233
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: or a kingdom more amazing than the kingdom that the

1234
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: Queen of Shiba came from. Now you fast forward to

1235
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: Emperor SALASSII and Emperor SALASSII a Romo Ethiopian man who

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01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 1: became the emperor of what we know to be Ethiopia, right, geopolitically,

1237
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 1: but it's a belief that his bloodline can be traced

1238
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: back to King Solomon, right, the emperor bloodline of Ethiopia

1239
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 1: could be traced back to King Solomon. That's the roster belief. Again,

1240
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 1: as many rostas you might get, many answers, but overall,

1241
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 1: this is the belief. Right. Now, set that aside Okay,

1242
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 1: another connection is in. I know it's a lot of

1243
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: Bible stuff, but you gotta follow me because we are

1244
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: talking about Jews and Rastas, so of course we're going

1245
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: to talk about the Bible right now. The Book of

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01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: Acts in the Bible has this story of this one

1247
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: of the apostles named Philip, and Philip runs into an

1248
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: Ethiopian eunuch who, according to the Bible, was reading the

1249
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,719
Speaker 1: Book of Isaiah. And Philip sees him on the road

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01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: and he's like, you know what you're reading? And the

1251
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: dudes like, how can I know? If nobody teaches him?

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01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: So he sits down with him, and he, according to

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01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: the scripture, according to the Bible, explains Isaiah, the prophecies,

1254
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: the Messiah, the death barely on resurrection of Jesus, and

1255
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: how that stuff was prophesied in the Book of Isaiah.

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01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: So he ties other things and then it says that

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01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: this Ethiopian eunuch got baptized right then. Now it is

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01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: then believed that he brought Christianity as we know it.

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01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: Their belief is like, we saw it right there, but

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Speaker 1: prov I thought Rostell was Jamaican. I'll get to it.

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01:19:54,680 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: So that's that's tie number three right now. The fourth tide,

1262
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,560
Speaker 1: which is one of the most compelling things to me

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01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: between the Jews, Zion and Ethiopia is the city of Axom.

1264
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 1: So the city of Axom is in the northern part

1265
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: of Ethiopia and is known to be and it's truthfully

1266
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: the oldest, the first and oldest Christian city because contrary

1267
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: to what yellow white pastor will teach you, the faith

1268
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: went to Africa before it went to Europe. Okay, hell,

1269
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: it went to Mongolia before it went to Europe. The

1270
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: point is the white man ain't teach us who Jesus was. Now.

1271
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: It is also believed that the arc of the Covenant

1272
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:46,520
Speaker 1: from the Old Testament is int Axom. There are ruins

1273
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 1: at different churches that have good archaeological evidence to believe

1274
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: that they set up the tent with the dimensions that

1275
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: Exodus and Deuteronomy and and the all Testament scriptures have

1276
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 1: taught them to do this. There are if you go

1277
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 1: to Israel now black Ethiopian Jewish people. As a matter

1278
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: of fact, they to be able to now getting into

1279
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,440
Speaker 1: the to the modern politics, to be able to repatronize,

1280
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: to be able to come back to Israel as a

1281
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: Jew you'd have to prove by your DNA that you

1282
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: have Jewish heritage, you are in fact an ethnic Jew.

1283
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: And the Ethiopians there's a sect of Ethiopia that not

1284
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: only can prove it, but are some argue, the closest

1285
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: like DNA related to what might be the ancient Israeli. Right,

1286
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: they're the like that. Some would argue that as far

1287
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: as the diaspora, not as far as like people ain't

1288
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: never left, I'm talking about as far as the diaspora, right,

1289
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: So they are, it can truly say. And there's a

1290
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 1: lot of traditions that in certain parts of Ethiopia that

1291
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: they continued far longer and are actually far more closely

1292
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: related to the ancient practices then what modern Israel looks like.

1293
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: This is just it's just history now, because anti blackness

1294
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: is universal. When they got to Israel, the modern Israel,

1295
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: a lot of Ethiopian women were sterilized. And if you

1296
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 1: walk around Jerusalem, just like everywhere else, the people doing

1297
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: all the all of the dirty work, all of the

1298
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:28,520
Speaker 1: bront work, all of the jobs, nobody won't are the black. Unfortunately,

1299
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: that being said, the tie between Ethiopia the ancient religion

1300
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: of Judaism and the ancient people of Israel, one because

1301
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 1: of the region, one because of folklore, and one because

1302
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 1: of DNA. Has Ethiopia is verifiably connected to whatever the

1303
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:54,480
Speaker 1: ancient Jerusalem was. Okay, you fast forward to Halli Selassia

1304
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: in the nineteen thirties, who they believe according to the

1305
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: Rasta jim is I want to say two hundred and

1306
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 1: twenty fifth. I think that's what my cousin told me

1307
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty fifth. Don't quote me on this,

1308
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm just quoting my cousin of the Solemonic dynasty. So

1309
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: they believe that like the actual king like a descendant

1310
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: of King David right, a son of David, kind of

1311
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: like who Jesus was a descendant of David Right was

1312
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: also Selassia. Ya ya ya aa, you following me? Okay? Now,

1313
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: the word Rastafari comes from Hali Selassi, which is Ras Tafari, Right,

1314
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 1: It's it was his name, right. So he was one

1315
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: of the only independent black leaders in Africa at the time. Right,

1316
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: So he bears this cultural, political, historical, and symbolic importance

1317
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: to just the African diaspora. Now, once you get into

1318
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,640
Speaker 1: the practices of Rastafarianism, like again like the rastadim the

1319
01:23:56,640 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: way of life, like the diet, you know, avoiding shelfish,

1320
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 1: eating seafood, like it's pretty similar to like kosher practices

1321
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: again because they have this tie to the land, the history.

1322
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: So there's there's a lot of practices that are like

1323
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: that are that they they have a lot of practices

1324
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: about being welcoming to the sojourner, about the way that

1325
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: we collectively sing ja is a Jamaican version of saying yah,

1326
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:30,560
Speaker 1: which is short for yahweh. So when we say jah rastafari,

1327
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: you know it's your ja is yah yahweh or jahovah. Right,

1328
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 1: So these a lot of them are vegetarian. They don't

1329
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: eat meat at all. Definitely not be for pork. Because

1330
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 1: you keep the temple clean, right, you very rarely are

1331
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 1: gonna find an overweight rasta like they're usually in incredibly

1332
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 1: good shape. The dreadlocks have to do what what's called

1333
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 1: the valve the Nazarite because again we're talking Old Testament

1334
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: Samson in the Bible, you know Samson with his golden lock,

1335
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 1: you know the Samson and Delilah, like Samson that took

1336
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 1: what's called a Nazarite vow, which was a vow to

1337
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 1: keep himself holy to the Lord, and the symbol of

1338
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: that holiness to the Lord was not crust cutting your hair.

1339
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: This is as a symbol of our holiness, the vow

1340
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: of the Nazarite. You grow your dreadlocks. Right. Dreadlocks was

1341
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: a term given to us by the British that we

1342
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: just own naughty dread so because our hair our locks

1343
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: were dreadful, so dreadlocks. There's also sex that believe that

1344
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 1: like God grabs the dead souls by their dreadlocks and

1345
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 1: bring them to brings them to Heaven. Again, there's the

1346
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,839
Speaker 1: symbols beautiful, but either way, it's a symbol of the promise,

1347
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: your commitment to keeping yourself sanctified to the Father. Right

1348
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: is if you're being a traditional rostad Am. Now their

1349
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: belief different than it's still again so follow me. This

1350
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: is still at Abrahamic faith. That's why you're gonna hear

1351
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: terms like mauzaion right, which I'm gonna get to specifically

1352
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: in a second. But their belief different than Christianity, although

1353
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 1: similar in a lot of ways, similar to Judaism in

1354
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Their belief is that like I said,

1355
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: Selassie was the Messiah. Right, this is an afro Centric belief.

1356
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: How did it get to Jamaica the trans Atlantic slave trade.

1357
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: So it gets to Jamaica via the slave trade. We

1358
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: got carted off. Remember this is an Afrocentric belief. And

1359
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: when Africans got brought to Jamaica, they brought their beliefs

1360
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: and then it sinked, you know, had a lot of

1361
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: syncretism with a lot of like the voodoo and tribal

1362
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: and Caribbean practices, you know, a lot of the stuff

1363
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: that was happening in the Caribbean. That because again this

1364
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 1: is East Africa, West Africa with the Arishi and the

1365
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of the West African beliefs

1366
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: are a little more animus, you know, and not so

1367
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:03,759
Speaker 1: a rahammock if you will. Right, all that to say,

1368
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: just like any other faith, tradition or practice, when it travels,

1369
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 1: it takes on a lot of the personalities, traditions and

1370
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 1: practices of the people that it traveled with and the

1371
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 1: location it lands. So the music that you hear because

1372
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: obviously if you hear music in Ethiopia, it don't sound

1373
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: like reggae because reggae is Jamaican right, So what you

1374
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 1: consider Rastafarian, you think Caribbean, because that's I mean, I

1375
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 1: get it right. And Ethiopia is Christian, right of course,

1376
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 1: there's obviously it's a modern country. There's millions of religions there,

1377
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: not millions, but you know what I mean, there's a

1378
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 1: lot of different religions there. But Ethiopia is Christian. Rasta

1379
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: that's birthed out of the diaspora that has its tie

1380
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: to Ethiopia. Y'all following me, You have people like Marcus Garvey,

1381
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: right who we need to at some point do a

1382
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 1: whole study on him in the back to African movement.

1383
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 1: And I don't have time to get into the depths

1384
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: of Marcus Garvey. But but the point was, as far

1385
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 1: as the Pan African experience, were those who the diaspora,

1386
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: we who got separated from our land, whether it was

1387
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 1: your run of the mill black Baptist slave in Tuscaloosa

1388
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 1: right in Mobile, Alabama, backwoods, a pretching and you know,

1389
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 1: making Georgia that we was on the plantations. If a

1390
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: Bible got into our hands, it was so easy to

1391
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 1: see ourselves in the Children of Israel. Like it's not

1392
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 1: hard to see if you read the Book of Exodus.

1393
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 1: You like, well, damn, that's us. It was too. It

1394
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: was too If the connection is too obvious, we're like,

1395
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, cart it off into slavery from a

1396
01:28:55,880 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 1: distant land, and then there's a longing for a return

1397
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 1: to your promised land. The city and the capital of

1398
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: my promised land is the city of Zion. You following me.

1399
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,600
Speaker 1: It would be the same in the Caribbean for the

1400
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: rastadem But they looking back at Selassii, it is Rastafarianism

1401
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: is by definition anti colonial obviously, and they believe that

1402
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: Africa is their not only their their literal ancestral homeland,

1403
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 1: but it's their spiritual homeland. And the country of Ethiopia

1404
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 1: gets a particular reverence because of the role it played

1405
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 1: in the nineteenth century for the resistance of because of SELASSII,

1406
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 1: for the resistance of European imperialism. Everybody else fell, Ethiopia didn't.

1407
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: So the gold, green, and red colors of the modern

1408
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: Ethiopia flag are the traditional colors of the Rastafarian because

1409
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: it can, in some ways get it roots, gets its

1410
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 1: roots from there. Right. Okay, I know that was a

1411
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 1: long preamble, but you gotta understand what we're told me.

1412
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 1: So once you have this understand of your connection to

1413
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: Judaism practice anti colonial you know, dispersed, taken away from

1414
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: your homeland and longing for a return to your promised land.

1415
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 1: Now we could talk about what Zion is. Now, Rastafarian

1416
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: has two basic tent poles Zion Babylon. You hear that

1417
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: stuff in all the raget you listen to, right, So

1418
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: these are the theological ideology ideological tent poles. The dichotomy

1419
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 1: is tied again to the anti colonial origins because Babylon,

1420
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 1: remember again in your Old Testament, is the symbol of

1421
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 1: the evil powers, the evil empire, just like in the Bible.

1422
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 1: It's the the the the epitome. It is everything that's

1423
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 1: wrong in the world. It's the system is symbolized in

1424
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: king Nebukan, the in the in the Kingdom of Babylon,

1425
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: and we long to see Babylon fall. We chant down

1426
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:03,639
Speaker 1: about this worldly system that in slaves and attacks and

1427
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 1: seeks to control not only the outward person, but the

1428
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,799
Speaker 1: inside of you what Christians would call your sin nature

1429
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: worldly Babylon. Right, So, if you're following again the saga

1430
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:19,679
Speaker 1: of the Old Testament, Israel fleeing Egypt or getting away

1431
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 1: from Egypt, becoming free and then being enslaved by Babylon

1432
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 1: again Babylon's the problem. Does that make sense? Now? In

1433
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: the Bible, Zion is just another name for Jerusalem, right,

1434
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 1: and it can refer to the land of Israel fully.

1435
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 1: Now the Rastafarian, Okay, this is where our difference is

1436
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 1: repurpose the Biblical definition to an Afrocentric direction. For the Rasta,

1437
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: Zion is the continent of Africa, specifically Ethiopia. But the

1438
01:31:55,160 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 1: term represents not just a physical place, because Ethiopia is

1439
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: just Ethiopia, but it's an ideal. It's what we would

1440
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 1: call to become cross. It's this is paradise, this is

1441
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 1: Thy Kingdom. Come Thy will be done on earth as

1442
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 1: it is in heaven. Zion Heaven and Earth meets. So

1443
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 1: it's not just it's it's physical and so much more,

1444
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,640
Speaker 1: which in a lot of ways is the same for

1445
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: the jew But we'll get to that. It is the

1446
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 1: destruction of a worldly system and the raising of a

1447
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 1: selected godly kingdom where all of us. What we would

1448
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 1: talk about the Christians woul talk about the Kingdom of

1449
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:41,559
Speaker 1: God is righteousness, peace, enjoying, the Holy goth Is to

1450
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 1: be a part of the kingdom. So it's a both

1451
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 1: place and it's an idea to strive for, right where

1452
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 1: the rastas they would equate with preserving and glorifying Black

1453
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 1: African culture. Right the Iron Lion of Zion, you know

1454
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: Bob Marley's you know song, but for more information, like

1455
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: Rastafarai is kind of like like how we have denominations.

1456
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 1: There's a divided into mansions and they got it from

1457
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 1: like the Gospel of John when Jesus says, in my

1458
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 1: father's house there are many mansions. Right again, I'm telling

1459
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: you it's an Abrahamic faith. A lot of people don't

1460
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 1: think it's just a it's a black you know, anti

1461
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 1: colonial African outpour of it. Right, So you have like

1462
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 1: the Bobo, the Ashanti, the twelve tribes, that's a that's

1463
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 1: a denomination if you will, they would call it twelve

1464
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 1: tribes of Israel. N I never pronounced it, right, But

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Speaker 1: the Naya be the Naya b BINGI like, I never

1466
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 1: pronounced it right. But there are a certain type now

1467
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 1: some again there are some look more traditional than others,

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01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 1: and then a lot of people just follow like an

1469
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 1: individual like rostof way of viewing it. But at the

1470
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:57,679
Speaker 1: end of the day, Ethiopia is, for lack of better term,

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01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 1: the new Jerusalem. This is zion when we're talking about Rastadam. Okay,

1472
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: now what the Zionists believe next? All right, we're back. Now,

1473
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:03,759
Speaker 1: Zionism the the name the overall name for right now.

1474
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 1: You know, if you're pro Palestine, that's the name of

1475
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 1: the bad guys. They're Zionis. And people have tried to

1476
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 1: separate the idea of anti Semitism from Zionists being anti Zionists,

1477
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 1: that these are different things. Now that would mean that

1478
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 1: you'd have to understand all those things and their history

1479
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 1: from them. Now, I'm trying to handle this like with

1480
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 1: as much respect as I can because I'm talking about

1481
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 1: a culture that's not mine, right, So please grant me

1482
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: that grace that there's I'm probably gonna overlook. Like I

1483
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 1: said in the beginning, I'm probably gonna overlook some stuff

1484
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 1: that I'm not trying to overlook. I'm trying to give

1485
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 1: as best as I can and understanding, right of these

1486
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 1: different things anti Semi that's I mean, those are the Nazis.

1487
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 1: You just don't believe that it's a type of thing.

1488
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 1: It's a type of overall term for the concept of

1489
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: the convolution of of idea, this weird idea that all

1490
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 1: that is wrong. Like it's almost like you've made the

1491
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 1: Jew Babylon, you know what I'm saying, Like we just

1492
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 1: talked about like they are everything that's wrong. They are both.

1493
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 1: They are both the killers of Jesus. They are the

1494
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 1: vermin that I'm trying to describe anti Semitism, the religion

1495
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 1: and the ethnicity that somehow or another is poor and subhuman,

1496
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: but also quietly controls all of the inner workings of

1497
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 1: money and power in the world. And your only solution

1498
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:39,919
Speaker 1: is to wipe them out. That would be anti Semitic.

1499
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 1: That's the idea of that. That comes from this thing

1500
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 1: called the Protocols of Zion, which again the word Zion

1501
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 1: I'm to talk about, which is something that we've talked

1502
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: about on the Behind the Bastards episodes of the Protocols

1503
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 1: of Zion. Now that's anti Semitic. Now once we get

1504
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:01,600
Speaker 1: into now if you remember the one of the You

1505
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 1: Wasn't Outside episodes when we pulled the clip of a

1506
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 1: rabbi explaining the idea of what makes a Jew a

1507
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 1: jew according to the faith is they're covenant with Yahweh.

1508
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:20,559
Speaker 1: That it's not necessarily a location. As a matter of fact,

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01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: to see it as a location is to minimize it.

1510
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:27,799
Speaker 1: Where he was like the Promised Land that our claim

1511
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 1: is because we are in covenant with Yahweh, and that

1512
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:35,679
Speaker 1: can happen anywhere. The location don't matter. So to say

1513
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 1: that the capital has to be in Jerusalem or has

1514
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 1: to be in Tel Aviv because that's God's will is

1515
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 1: He's like, no, you're missing the point, Like who cares

1516
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,839
Speaker 1: where a modern nation state plants? Like that's a secular

1517
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:53,520
Speaker 1: system that is like the rastadem would say that is Babylon.

1518
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 1: To worry about what other nations say. I am a

1519
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 1: part of the kingdom, and the kingdom exists because I

1520
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 1: am and covenant with yaw. We are a covenant people.

1521
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 1: That's what makes that's what gives us our Jewishness is

1522
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 1: our covenant with y'awe. Who cares what the borders are?

1523
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 1: That would be a specific type of Judaism, right, a

1524
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 1: religious type of Judaism, now an ethnic Judaism, but something different.

1525
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 1: A political Judaism is something different, and that's what we're

1526
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 1: going to talk about. Right now, Zionism as we're talking

1527
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 1: about Nadar Rastadem. But Zionism, you could say, I'd say,

1528
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 1: go back to August twenty ninth, eighteen ninety seven. It

1529
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,759
Speaker 1: was a meeting on the Rhine River in this small

1530
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 1: city like uh in Switzerland called Basil, right um Basil. Now,

1531
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 1: this meeting had people from all over the world, and

1532
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 1: it was to discuss this concept of Zionism. Now, like

1533
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 1: I said in the bio, like I said, zion is

1534
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 1: just a biblical term for Jerusalem. Right, So they choose

1535
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 1: that term because if you're paying attention to europe Pagras,

1536
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 1: it ain't a good place for Jews. It's been all

1537
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 1: bad for them for a while. And this discussion was

1538
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 1: to say we have to have a place cause it

1539
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 1: seemed like no matter where we go, we not want it.

1540
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 1: Now they pull in all the way back small freaking

1541
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:17,599
Speaker 1: Canaan to Egypt. They are talking about their deep history

1542
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 1: and they're like, like, no matter where we go, we

1543
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,799
Speaker 1: not want it. So we need to find a place

1544
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 1: where we could just be ourselves. And they thought, what

1545
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 1: better place than our ancestral homeland. Now, if you're looking

1546
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,600
Speaker 1: around this room, you would think the same thing. I

1547
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: would think, y'all white as hell, like you're you're European.

1548
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 1: I don't understand the same way that you would probably

1549
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 1: look at that Ethiopian and go, but you're African. But

1550
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 1: follow me now, So people in during the time, from

1551
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 1: like Munich, from Germany, from Poland, from Switzerland, they're like,

1552
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 1: what is you talking about? Like I'm just as German

1553
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 1: as everybody. They German. They're like, we speak German, like

1554
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:02,559
Speaker 1: this is just our religious Like I ain't never seen

1555
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 1: I never been to Israel, never seen Israel. Israel's not

1556
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 1: a thing at the time. That place is Palestine, you know,

1557
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 1: like it's not a that's not a that's It would

1558
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 1: be the same as me saying I need to go

1559
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 1: back to Nubia, but like Nubia's gone, you know, black

1560
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:20,640
Speaker 1: people like again a Marcus Garvey thing, but that was

1561
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 1: closer today time, like you need to go back to

1562
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 1: there's no place here wanted for you. I'm like, well,

1563
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 1: that's not I don't I don't even know the language

1564
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 1: they speak at Tobo. I'm guessing that because I took

1565
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 1: an African ancestry and they were saying I'm my father's side,

1566
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 1: that maybe I'm like, what do I know about? I

1567
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 1: don't even think about that. So the Jews at the

1568
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 1: time were like, what I don't this what did you

1569
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 1: talking about? Like it would be the equivalent to a

1570
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 1: back to Africa movement to where it's like, I mean,

1571
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 1: it sounds cool, but like I mean it's already people there,

1572
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 1: and I mean it's been hundreds of year, like I'm German,

1573
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 1: like we're German. A lot of the rabbis were like, look,

1574
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 1: first of all, this is blasphemous. Were not supposed to

1575
01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 1: return into the Messiah come, Like that's what the prophecies that,

1576
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: and he gonna bring us I don't know about what

1577
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 1: the hell you doing? Right? And then the others, like

1578
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,600
Speaker 1: the more modern ones, were like, well, we're not a

1579
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 1: nation like that was actually the point, Like don't you

1580
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 1: then you read Yo yo taura, you don't need a king.

1581
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 1: I'm your king. You're not a nation, like that's the point.

1582
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 1: The point is you're supposed to be different. I'm your king.

1583
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 1: You're a part of a Kingdom of God, the Kingdom

1584
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 1: of Heaven, and I'll bring you back when it's time,

1585
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 1: when the Messiah come. So like whatever y'all doing that's

1586
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 1: not even now I'm saying that again, this is eighteen

1587
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 1: ninety seven. That's that was the belief of them. Now

1588
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: again those were some rabbi and not only that, like

1589
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 1: I said, they're like, well, I'm French. I what anyway,

1590
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 1: Enter this guy named Theodore Herzel, right, who was a

1591
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:45,679
Speaker 1: journalist who covered this actually probably one of the most

1592
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 1: radicalizing moments for anybody, for any Jew in Europe, right,

1593
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:52,559
Speaker 1: And it was the case for this man named Alfred Dreyfus, right,

1594
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 1: which basically became like the trial of the century. It was.

1595
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 1: They called it the Dreyfus affair, and the journalists who

1596
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 1: covered it was Theodore Hurt. Basically, the Dreyfus was accused

1597
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 1: of treason and found guilty and sentenced to like a

1598
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 1: work prism, totally wrongfully convicted, completely out of nowhere. Y'all

1599
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: made all that up. But how that work was Like

1600
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 1: because he was Jewish, it became not just about him,

1601
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 1: but that you can't trust the Jew. And Theodore Hurzel's

1602
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 1: watching all this and he's watching the people get whipped

1603
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 1: up into a frenzy. People that was just your neighbors.

1604
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:31,680
Speaker 1: Like again, I'm just as German as I'm just as

1605
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: European as you are. Like, fam, I remember the feeling

1606
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:41,559
Speaker 1: when Trump first started taking over the brains of the

1607
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 1: White Christian where I was like dog, we was at

1608
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: cracker barrel yesterday. What happened? Like we used to what

1609
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 1: just what has bewitched you?

1610
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 3: Like?

1611
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: All of was like this the whole time. It was

1612
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 1: super confusing. It's like all of a sudden were different, y'all.

1613
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 1: It's me like I've been meeting this whole time. So

1614
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 1: Theodore Hertzel was like, yo, okay, listen, we clearly not

1615
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 1: want it here, and it's only gonna get worse. Turns

1616
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 1: out he was absolutely correct. So he comes up with

1617
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 1: this idea that is like He's like, Okay, I'm gonna

1618
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 1: suggest a Jewish state in the current state of Nation

1619
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 1: of Palestine. Y'all think I'm crazy right now, But in

1620
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 1: about fifty years you gonna see this was eighteen ninety seven.

1621
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:29,799
Speaker 1: Guess what happened in fifty years nineteen forty eight shoots Israel? Bekay?

1622
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 1: But day ain't that chrisy. So now Zionism, you want

1623
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 1: to be able to distinguish it between two different types

1624
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 1: of Zionism, right, And this is where I would critique

1625
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 1: making the concept the bad guy, because there's two types here. Okay,

1626
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 1: there's the Zionism that comes out of a longing for

1627
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 1: a home that's where us and Erastas actually share a

1628
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 1: place where we can be fully accepted, fully ourselves, and

1629
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 1: fully safe, because again, we're not wanted anywhere we are,

1630
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 1: right so there's a longing for a home that you've

1631
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 1: been ripped away from. Right now, when they say ripped

1632
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:15,759
Speaker 1: away from, like we're talking guess what I'm talking about,

1633
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 1: King of Babylon. We're talking about the nations being scattered

1634
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 1: like five eighty BC when the Arc of the Covenant

1635
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 1: went missing, and this beautiful, amazing Kingdom of Israel that

1636
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 1: used to exist in modern day Palestine, Israel in that

1637
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 1: region that was called Judea at that time where they existed.

1638
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 1: And then if you know your history, I've said this

1639
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 1: so many times in the Usn't Outside episodes, that little

1640
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 1: strip of land has been conquered and colonialized and ran

1641
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 1: by every possible king, every possible empire in the modern world,

1642
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: finally by Britain. And then but as that was happening,

1643
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 1: the people who were ethnically Israeli, as we mean in

1644
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 1: the ancient sense, we're scattered all over the world. So

1645
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 1: that's why you could be white as hale in Jewish

1646
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 1: and you could be black as hale in Jewish because

1647
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,599
Speaker 1: they were scattered, right And then of course now you're

1648
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 1: not gonna marry people while you're there. But somehow or another

1649
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: they've been able to keep on to their traditions and

1650
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 1: their religions because they were also it's one of those

1651
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 1: things which you're ethnically and religiously and your identity. So anyway,

1652
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 1: scattered all over the world. But as as we know,

1653
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 1: there's plenty of people that didn't lead. Again, I'm giving

1654
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:32,639
Speaker 1: you you wasn't outside history, which you understand. So there's

1655
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 1: this longing of being like, man, this we used to

1656
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 1: have a place to be in the world, and you

1657
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 1: feel like you're looking around everybody else got a place

1658
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 1: to be in the world. This is born from despair

1659
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 1: and rightfully so. But then there's this other type of

1660
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 1: Zionism that is more like this idea of reclaiming and

1661
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 1: enthusiasm about our heritage and our culture, like we need

1662
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 1: we need to be like the same way I would

1663
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: be like loud and black, Like we need to be

1664
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 1: black as hell out here, Like we need to reclaim,

1665
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 1: take up space and be ourselves rather than like shrinking ourselves.

1666
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 1: Like I want to reclaim all that it is for

1667
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 1: us to be us now as a minority. That shouldn't

1668
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 1: be hard for you to understand. I mean that's us

1669
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 1: sitting here in America. And then you got the Republicans

1670
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 1: being like, well, you're American first, and I'm like, nah, nigga,

1671
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm black. I got my red, black and green on

1672
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 1: the wall. You know, it's the Latinos flying their Mexican

1673
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: flags and like, nah, we who we are? You feel me?

1674
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 1: And you're like when you're an American, you know, it's

1675
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 1: you're a Nosavo kid. You know when you finally discovered

1676
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:39,679
Speaker 1: the concept of Azline. You want to know a little

1677
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:41,640
Speaker 1: about your own heritage. Yeah, you're American, you know what

1678
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean, from East Lost, but you want to reclaim

1679
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 1: your history, your heritage, your language. You want to learn

1680
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 1: Aztec dances. It's like so there's that version also, so

1681
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 1: in that sense it'd be weird to you when you

1682
01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 1: like you're like yo, like yo, we're jewsh You're like, ooh,

1683
01:46:56,040 --> 01:47:00,639
Speaker 1: I'm German. It's like nigga you French like word. These

1684
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:03,720
Speaker 1: people don't love you, like why you identify as that?

1685
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 1: You know? So there's you see that as a lens

1686
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 1: of Zionism. You those So you have these ideas happening

1687
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 1: all around the same sort of time and idea with

1688
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:20,720
Speaker 1: the same term zion. So it could be seeing as

1689
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 1: somebody that's like, yo, like I want to learn our

1690
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: ancient language, I want to learn our practices, I want

1691
01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 1: to do the shabbat, I want to like I want

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01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:29,559
Speaker 1: to bring back. It became this umbrella term for just

1693
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: what it meant to, like reclaim your culture, reclaim your identity,

1694
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 1: reclaim the fullness of what y'all are. And then there's

1695
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 1: the geopolitical idea. Now, this geopolitical idea borrowed from all

1696
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 1: of these particular concepts, and if you read the writings

1697
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:54,640
Speaker 1: of Theodore Herzel and a lot of the people involved

1698
01:47:54,640 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 1: in this, they were all bride eyed about the idea

1699
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 1: that like, oh, this is going to be a colonial

1700
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 1: takeover of Palestine. You have to remove the indigenous population

1701
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 1: for this to happen, because there's no way they're going

1702
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 1: to give it to me. And there were certain ways

1703
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:12,879
Speaker 1: they tried to do it. They tried to do it peacefully.

1704
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 1: One way they said was well, first of all, let's

1705
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:20,639
Speaker 1: go talk to Britain, because remember the British Empire actually

1706
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 1: drew the partition. The British Empire is the one that

1707
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:27,840
Speaker 1: drew the line between Israel and Palestine, because remember it

1708
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 1: used to belong to them. Another idea that Thesion has

1709
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:37,799
Speaker 1: had was, yo, let's go talk to the Turkish Empire,

1710
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,599
Speaker 1: right because remember the Ottomans were there before the British

1711
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 1: and they was like, okay, so if you let us

1712
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 1: be a government, how about we pay all the debts? Well,

1713
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 1: what if we pay off debts? They were trying. Matter

1714
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 1: of fact, Israel. The location wasn't even their first choice

1715
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: because they was like this a little too complicated. They

1716
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 1: thought about going to Africa. They looked at a couple

1717
01:48:56,120 --> 01:49:00,560
Speaker 1: different places as to where to land. This geopol political

1718
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 1: idea of Zionism. I'm telling this out of order. Let

1719
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 1: me back up. So the idea that like it's just

1720
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 1: a myth that the Zionists were not aware of the

1721
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 1: Palestinian Arab population. They were well aware of it. But

1722
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:19,080
Speaker 1: the question is what to do with that information? Because yeah,

1723
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 1: as Jewish, as as Hurtzel was, he's also a European,

1724
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 1: so that like he saw the Arabs as barbaric like

1725
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 1: that they were. I mean, it's just there's no other

1726
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 1: way around it. They were well aware that you are

1727
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 1: going to have to displace people to build a nation

1728
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 1: like this. So that was not they knew. Right now, again,

1729
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the geopolitical idea of Zionists. But their

1730
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 1: idea was like, surely y'all can see that, like, we're

1731
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 1: not a big empire. We're not here like we're just

1732
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 1: we're just looking for a place to be, you know,

1733
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 1: and since we're from here anyway, it should this shouldn't

1734
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:59,240
Speaker 1: be a problem. So yeah, so, like I said, Hertzel

1735
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 1: went to the w the British, he went to the

1736
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:03,559
Speaker 1: Ottoman Empire, and he asked them, like, yo, can we

1737
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:08,520
Speaker 1: just go settle Keep in mind is like European Jews

1738
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 1: had been moving to tel Aviv for a while. You know,

1739
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:14,599
Speaker 1: they actually formed the city of tel Aviv, right, those

1740
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 1: were Jewish settlers from Israel that's formed the city of

1741
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 1: tel Aviv. This is well before Israel became a state, right,

1742
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 1: so they had already been moving. Now they were just

1743
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 1: like we just need legitimacy, So how about we buy

1744
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 1: it from the Ottomans. And you know, the emperor of

1745
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:35,800
Speaker 1: the Ottoman Empire was like, bro, I can't sell you

1746
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:40,559
Speaker 1: land like it belongs to the people and they fought

1747
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 1: to conquer this place. I'm not just fin just just

1748
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 1: sell it to you. And not only did he not

1749
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 1: sell it to him, he started building policy to make

1750
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 1: sure that they can't just be immigrating and just buying

1751
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:54,160
Speaker 1: up Palestinian land. He was like, I'm not really I'm

1752
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 1: not really here for this, and like, why would I

1753
01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:01,920
Speaker 1: welcome like a large religious minority into my empire? You

1754
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:05,160
Speaker 1: might take it over. So, like I said, he was like,

1755
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 1: I can't. Look, they're not just letting us come now,

1756
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:11,760
Speaker 1: they're restricting our thing, our movement. He even, like I said,

1757
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 1: he went back to the British Empire asked for a

1758
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: spot in East Africa, like can we just and the

1759
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 1: Jews back home? It was like, nigga, we're going back

1760
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:24,120
Speaker 1: to Zion. The hell you talk about East Africa for

1761
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:27,720
Speaker 1: He's Perzel was like, bro, I'm trying right. So eventually

1762
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 1: they found the city of Tel Aviv. They create their

1763
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: own like anybody else, like you created Chinatown. You created

1764
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 1: like you create your own community. Then nem niggas got organized.

1765
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 1: Now now the timeline I'm telling you this, Like I said,

1766
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:41,639
Speaker 1: remember you had this first idea of eighteen ninety seven.

1767
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 1: So this is all during the times between like World

1768
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 1: War One, World War two. Remember Britain didn't take over

1769
01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:49,360
Speaker 1: until nineteen seventeen, because that's why he was building with

1770
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 1: the Ottoman Empire. Dudes once and then once they was gone,

1771
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 1: once British. Once Britain took over nineteen seventeen, we're about

1772
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 1: we're seeing the end of World War One, right, you're

1773
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:02,720
Speaker 1: thinking maybe this was a new world and it all

1774
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 1: hell broke loose with the Nazi Empire. And at that point,

1775
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:08,599
Speaker 1: once the Nazis things started happening, it was like all, nigga,

1776
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,759
Speaker 1: we gotta go like this, We can't be playing games.

1777
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 1: Were trying to play nice like like that. The Nazi

1778
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 1: thing kick this mug in a high gear. So now

1779
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 1: by nineteen forty seven, it's like now it's like the

1780
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 1: Jews are like a third of the population in Palestine

1781
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 1: at the time, right, So so now it's getting a

1782
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:30,639
Speaker 1: little itchy, you know what I'm saying. Like now y'all.

1783
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 1: Just y'all just over here, And if you're an Arab nation,

1784
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 1: you like, okay, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

1785
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait okay. Why we

1786
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 1: got to lose our home because of stuff Europe did?

1787
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 1: Why are we paying the price? Like I feel you

1788
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that's terrible what you're

1789
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 1: going through, But like why you gotta come, Why you

1790
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 1: gotta take our house? Why y'all gotta be like what's

1791
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 1: going on right now? But anyway, since nobody's handing it

1792
01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 1: to them, now we got numbers, since nobody's just gonna

1793
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 1: let us be here, the only way to do this

1794
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 1: is by force. So them dudes made a military. Now

1795
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 1: it's time to scrap for it. But as you know,

1796
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 1: this is still a British outpost. Finally Britain's like, okay, listen,

1797
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 1: I'm done with all this. When were we gonna do?

1798
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 1: Y'all get that part, y'all get that part. They created

1799
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:20,600
Speaker 1: the partition, but they said, now y'all figure out what

1800
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:22,640
Speaker 1: is what and who run this and all that, Like

1801
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 1: I'm done. And there at that moment the birth of

1802
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 1: the nation of Israel. The lines created by Britain after

1803
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:37,520
Speaker 1: they left in Palestine looking around here going man, what

1804
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:40,719
Speaker 1: what just happened? Right now? And then, like I said

1805
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 1: in other you wasn't outside episodes, the rest of the

1806
01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 1: Arab nations was like, oh hell no, like if they

1807
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 1: went to war immediately everybody jumped them ere everybody junking

1808
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 1: was like and then and look Israel one like like

1809
01:53:56,240 --> 01:54:00,640
Speaker 1: they just what did y'all do? Like who are you?

1810
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 1: Why are you getting to be a nation? But that's

1811
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 1: what happened, and we still scrapping over it. Nation states

1812
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 1: again have more to do with the recognition of other

1813
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 1: nations and who gets to decide who gets what power

1814
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,759
Speaker 1: and all this good stuff. I like, we said, borders

1815
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 1: are made up, they're drawn by conquerors. It's not. Don't

1816
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:26,599
Speaker 1: let that fool you. The concept that has people out

1817
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 1: in the streets is the type of Zionism that has

1818
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 1: to do with the displacement of an indigenous population by

1819
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 1: force because you believe God wanted you here. That's one

1820
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 1: way to look at it, And that, my friend, it's

1821
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:55,480
Speaker 1: just run of the mill imperialism. It's basic. Then there's

1822
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 1: the Zionism that says, like I said, I am preserving

1823
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 1: my culture. And then there's the Zionism that says I

1824
01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 1: am longing for a place for us to belong, a

1825
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 1: Zionism that is much more an idea of a promised

1826
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 1: land rather than the hostile takeover of a place where

1827
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 1: people already exist. Spiritual, religious, political, all of that in

1828
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 1: this one turn. So I am not going to tell

1829
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 1: you what to think of when you say Zionists, just

1830
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 1: like I don't know what to tell you what you

1831
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 1: think of when you say Christian. But I tell you

1832
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 1: what It ain't what the rosters mean. And I tell

1833
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:46,160
Speaker 1: you what if you're sitting in Palestine right now, do

1834
01:55:46,240 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 1: it even matter the politics? All right? Now, don't you

1835
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:05,520
Speaker 1: hit stop on this pod. You better listen to these credits.

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01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 1: I need you to finish this thing so I can

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1838
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:16,920
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Speaker 1: If you understand urban living, you understand politics. These people

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