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Speaker 1: also our first ever live coverage of the NBA Draft episode,
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Speaker 1: Chill just right that I will be sipping on as
Speaker 1: we go through at least the first ten picks, probably
Speaker 1: the entirety of the lottery. And again, appreciate our friends
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Speaker 1: is a really cool fun thing that we're able to do.
Speaker 1: And this is an odd draft in this not odd,
Speaker 1: but what is unique is there is no intrigue whatsoever
Speaker 1: about who the Dallas Mavericks are taking. They are on
Speaker 1: the clock, we know, and we can spend the first
Speaker 1: really ten minutes of today's show talking about what the
Speaker 1: first and second picks mean for the Mavericks and the
Speaker 1: Spurs because we know definitively who the first and second
Speaker 1: picks of this draft will be. Number one will be
Speaker 1: Cooper flag Number to the Dallas Mavericks, not even Nico
Speaker 1: Harrison's gonna screw that up. Number two will be Dylan
Speaker 1: Harper to the San Antonio Spurs. And then it gets interesting.
Speaker 1: Will Philadelphia take VJ Edge That's where my money would
Speaker 1: be at right now. Will they say we don't care
Speaker 1: that Ace Bailey doesn't want to come here, We're taking him.
Speaker 1: Will they actually use the number three pick as a
Speaker 1: carrot to get off the Paul George contract and kind
Speaker 1: of remake their team that way? The draft here starts
Speaker 1: at pick three, but everybody knows that. And with three
Speaker 1: and a half minutes left on the clock. The MAVs
Speaker 1: are clapping. Here's one interesting MAVs point I would like
Speaker 1: to make. If you have been watching the NBA news
Speaker 1: of late, the MAVs are losing a lot of assistant coaches,
Speaker 1: reportedly either not renewing contracts or not coming to a
Speaker 1: contract agreement. And I say that to say this, I
Speaker 1: am still I still have a few chips on the
Speaker 1: roulette table on the spot of Jason Kidd is going
Speaker 1: to be the coach of the Knicks next year. I
Speaker 1: still feel like that is a simmering potential story until
Speaker 1: the Knicks hire a new head coach, or until Jason
Speaker 1: Kidd gets what ima Udoka got after the Knicks tried
Speaker 1: to flirt with him, which is a contract extension. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna consider it certainly possible that this ends up being uh,
Speaker 1: that he still ends up being the Knicks head coach.
Speaker 1: And the pick is in. It has not yet been announced.
Speaker 1: We know it's gonna be Cooper Flag and Bron came
Speaker 1: out and said, you know, he has the benefit of
Speaker 1: walking into a situation with Hall of famers, which is
Speaker 1: I mean, Lebron was talking about it as if it's
Speaker 1: a positive. I know there are some Ace Bailey doesn't
Speaker 1: want to go to a situation where he is, you
Speaker 1: know where he's gonna be anything other than the number
Speaker 1: one option. In Ace Bailey's defense, you look at Reed
Speaker 1: Shepherd last year, the third pick of last year's draft.
Speaker 1: That was a team that was trying to win, that
Speaker 1: was ready to win, and the guy really couldn't get
Speaker 1: off the bench. Cooper Flag would not be in that
Speaker 1: situation anywhere. He's a good enough prospect and good enough player,
Speaker 1: he'd be playing for anybody. And to Lebron's point, there
Speaker 1: haven't been many number one overall picks that were drafted
Speaker 1: by teams that had minted, no doubt Hall of famers.
Speaker 1: But when it's happened, it's worked out pretty brilliantly. When
Speaker 1: you have in nineteen eighty Magic gets drafted to the Lakers,
Speaker 1: they already have a team and are a team, they
Speaker 1: already have Kareem. They win the title that year. Oddly,
Speaker 1: James Worthy also drafted by the Lakers. They win more
Speaker 1: titles a team, and those are number one picks a game.
Speaker 1: Drafted by the Rockets. Ralph Sampson wasn't yet a Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer, but he was a great player, and within
Speaker 1: two years they make the NBA Finals. Shack goes to Orlando.
Speaker 1: The very next year, they have the number one pick again,
Speaker 1: they trade that number one pick for I think pick
Speaker 1: four and Chris Weber for Penny. They're in the finals.
Speaker 1: Within two years, the San Antonio Spurs draft Duncan when
Speaker 1: they already have Robinson, they're within the finals in two
Speaker 1: years now. I do not think the MAVs are going
Speaker 1: to be a finals team with Cooper Flag. But what
Speaker 1: I do think is definitely true is this team neck
Speaker 1: not this coming year, but the year after this. And
Speaker 1: this is a huge if. If they're healthy, could be
Speaker 1: a legitimate I would say fringe contender, not top line contender.
Speaker 1: But when we go in the twenty six twenty seventh season,
Speaker 1: if Kyrie is healthy they just resigned him, Ad is
Speaker 1: still a d and Cooper Flag in year two with
Speaker 1: those other pieces around him, that's a team that should
Speaker 1: be able to do some damage in the Western Conference playoffs.
Speaker 1: Now some folks are trying to use that as a
Speaker 1: way to reverse engineer. Almost credit to Nico Harrison, when
Speaker 1: this was not his plan at all. He did not
Speaker 1: trade Luka Ancic because he wanted to or expected them
Speaker 1: to fall into the lottery or them to end up
Speaker 1: with Cooper Flag. He did it because he thought they
Speaker 1: could contend. Right now now, for MAVs fans, it's a
Speaker 1: happy accident. It is certainly not something that validates that
Speaker 1: trade Luca decision for Niko, So it certainly might make
Speaker 1: it feel less bad for the fans that pick is
Speaker 1: in and that pick, as everyone expected, the least surprise imaginable.
Speaker 1: That pick, of course is Cooper Flag. So Cooper Flag
Speaker 1: goes number one overall, and we know Dylan Harper is
Speaker 1: going to go number two overall. I want to spend
Speaker 1: a little more time on Cooper Flag here. This, by
Speaker 1: the way, is the second time in history MAVs history,
Speaker 1: they have had the number one overall pick. In nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty one they got they drafted Mark Aguire. This is,
Speaker 1: they hope, the second time in franchise history they end
Speaker 1: up coming out of the draft with the no doubt
Speaker 1: best player of that draft. That happened once before when
Speaker 1: they went into the draft with the fifth pick and
Speaker 1: ended up trading up to three four. Of course Luke
Speaker 1: Adncic And this is at the moment their only pick
Speaker 1: in this year's draft, and so I I am and
Speaker 1: spurs are on the clock and we will get to
Speaker 1: them in a moment. I want, like for the listener
Speaker 1: or the viewer on YouTube or the listener on the
Speaker 1: podcast to right now, I want to go through some
Speaker 1: other number one overall picks and I want you to
Speaker 1: like determine in your head if Cooper Flag has this
Speaker 1: level of career, is that a six? Did he meet
Speaker 1: expectations or fail to meet expectations? Because my worry for
Speaker 1: any of these number one overall picks that have been
Speaker 1: the way two of the last three have been wildly hyped.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's unjust by the way the hype.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's incorrect the hype, but so wildly
Speaker 1: hyped is are we setting them up to be Hall
Speaker 1: of famers and somehow still be disappointments? And by that
Speaker 1: I mean I said this on the show today, like
Speaker 1: if Cooper Flag has Chris Weber's career and they're not
Speaker 1: the same player, obviously they do have some similarities, really
Speaker 1: good passers, similar size, I think people would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: he didn't really pan out the way we had hoped.
Speaker 1: But Chris Webber's a Hall of Fame player. He was
Speaker 1: a great player for ten plus years as a number
Speaker 1: one overall pick, even though it took his career a
Speaker 1: little bit of time to get going, maybe the way
Speaker 1: people had hoped. I when we look at the last
Speaker 1: handful of number one overall picks, like, do we expect
Speaker 1: Cooper Flag to have a better career than we currently
Speaker 1: expect Anthony Edwards to have? Anthony Edwards is multiple time
Speaker 1: All NBA at twenty three years old, has been in
Speaker 1: back to back conference finals. Is you know, face of
Speaker 1: the league adjacent conversation and it feels like people and
Speaker 1: now listen, maybe Cooper Flagg is going to outshine those guys.
Speaker 1: But where are we What is meeting expectations for Cooper Flag?
Speaker 1: Does he have to one day be in the discussion
Speaker 1: for best player in the league? If that's the expectation,
Speaker 1: I don't. I think he comes up short on that.
Speaker 1: As far as the guys who number one overall picks consensus,
Speaker 1: no doubt guys over the last post Lebron that I thought, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think one day they'll be the best player in
Speaker 1: the league. The Anthony Davis is the first one that
Speaker 1: comes to mind Zion, I felt that way about that
Speaker 1: appears to be a huge miss. And while I wasn't
Speaker 1: ready to say Wimby was, you know, his floor was
Speaker 1: a chem Olajuan. I did think that Wimby, and I
Speaker 1: do think Wimby's you know, has the potential to one
Speaker 1: day be the best player in the league. But there
Speaker 1: have not been any other number one like and that
Speaker 1: is he is considered, you know, not in line of
Speaker 1: the prospect of Wimby and Lebron, but that very next
Speaker 1: level and and so and I'm not mentioning Durant, even
Speaker 1: though I did think Durant had the potential to be
Speaker 1: exactly what he was, because he wasn't the consensus number
Speaker 1: one pick. I I worry a bit that whenever we
Speaker 1: level set for a guy ten time All Star, seven
Speaker 1: time All NBA, two time third place league MVP finish
Speaker 1: and second best player on a champion one time that
Speaker 1: career as wow, kind of disappointed. That always worries me
Speaker 1: across the board. That always worries me unless I look
Speaker 1: at you as a just transcendent, holy shit force of nature, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, since Lebron, I have felt there's really
Speaker 1: only been three and again, people will say, Nick, you
Speaker 1: didn't think that about Wimby. My Wimby skepticism was about
Speaker 1: his rookie year. Would he play enough games to win
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year and is he going to be
Speaker 1: in the goat conversation. It was not that this guy
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be a world changer, but it was
Speaker 1: ad Zion and Wimby. And I still feel like, man,
Speaker 1: the Zion thing, who's the last number one overall pick
Speaker 1: out of Duke is such a sad missed you know
Speaker 1: what if career that we're going down the wrong path
Speaker 1: on all right, the second pick is in. This is
Speaker 1: an obvious one. It is Dylan Harper. It is San
Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs. And now this is a very interesting team
Speaker 1: to talk about for different reasons, which is, first of all,
Speaker 1: is Dylan Harper going to grow old with Wimby in
Speaker 1: the NBA? Or is Dylan Harper going to be the
Speaker 1: prized asset that the San Antonio Spurs use in order
Speaker 1: to get Giannis or the next superstar player that comes available.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of Dylan Harper's stuff that I
Speaker 1: find interesting. These draft shows we got, you know, we've
Speaker 1: got to move fast. On it. So maybe, well, if
Speaker 1: we hit a lull, which I doubt we will. And
Speaker 1: there is a very interesting is the NBA about to
Speaker 1: become in ten years? Are thirty five percent of players
Speaker 1: in the NBA going to be sons or nephews of
Speaker 1: NBA players Because Dylan Harper obviously is Ron Harper's kid.
Speaker 1: Used he is one of the first like super blue
Speaker 1: chip prospects to be the son of a guy we
Speaker 1: all remembered. Obviously, I say one of the first steph was,
Speaker 1: and there are others, but it is happening more and more.
Speaker 1: Jay Caspy and Kang just wrote a really interesting article
Speaker 1: on that, by the way, But set that aside. The
Speaker 1: other thing that I think is smart for the Spurs
Speaker 1: is that they do not care that they already have
Speaker 1: Dylan Fox and they have Stefan Castle. This Dylan Harper
Speaker 1: was clearly and unequivocally the second best player in this draft.
Speaker 1: And when you have this unicorn of an asset in Wimby,
Speaker 1: you're not drafting for team need right now. You are
Speaker 1: drafting for best players possible and to figure out, you know,
Speaker 1: figure out as you go. So what does it mean
Speaker 1: for Fox? What does it mean for Castle, what does
Speaker 1: it mean for Harper? Because again, maybe Harper and Wimby
Speaker 1: grow old together. Maybe this is their version of SGA
Speaker 1: and Chet or SGA and JDub. I say check because
Speaker 1: he's second pick like Chet or maybe Dylan Harper is
Speaker 1: the best piece of team, either at this year's deadline
Speaker 1: or in next year's next year's off season trades to
Speaker 1: get a superstar.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: We already had somebody check in from Italy, and then
Speaker 1: we have TJ's sports queens rights. What wine are you drinking? Honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's some wine from Italy. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I am a what I would call I have turned
Speaker 1: into a low upper class wine snop. So I have
Speaker 1: some friends, some of which I was actually with this weekend,
Speaker 1: that were in uh for some of the events in
Speaker 1: New York this weekend, who have there. They have a
Speaker 1: lot of money, and they regularly drink like, you know,
Speaker 1: wine that thousands of dollars a bottle. I don't when
Speaker 1: those I don't even I might like have like a
Speaker 1: glass or taste it, but I feel like that level
Speaker 1: of wine is wasted on me. But I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of like a good I don't know at the store,
Speaker 1: like sixty to one hundred and fifty dollars bottle of wine,
Speaker 1: which again is like expensive, but wine can go, you know,
Speaker 1: the upper bounds of that are boundless. So so it's some,
Speaker 1: you know, it's some I think nice. I think some
Speaker 1: people think very nice, and some people are like, I
Speaker 1: can't believe you drink that Italian wine? Uh to the
Speaker 1: Robert asked, do you think the Thunder able to trade
Speaker 1: into the top ten or the Nets into the top five? I?
Speaker 1: I I yet certainly both teams are able to. Now
Speaker 1: will it be worth the I mean the Nets have
Speaker 1: five picks, including the eighth pick. The Thunder have what
Speaker 1: do they have? Fourteen, twenty two something else? And there
Speaker 1: so there are there's I don't know why am I sorry?
Speaker 1: My phone keeps ringing. They certainly can, there is no
Speaker 1: doubt that they can. Would it be smart, would it
Speaker 1: be the right way to do it? Would it be pragmatic?
Speaker 1: It depends on what the price is. But I right
Speaker 1: now we'll come back to the spurs. I right now
Speaker 1: want to focus on this pivot point of the draft,
Speaker 1: because the pivot point of the draft right now is Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I don't know, and some of our producers, you know,
Speaker 1: if because I'm obviously not able to monitor Twitter, I
Speaker 1: don't mind if you know. I don't want to necessarily
Speaker 1: spoil picks, but if there's news about, you know, movement
Speaker 1: or reports on whatever it is, I'll take it. My
Speaker 1: guess is they take Edgecomb, and I think the consensuses
Speaker 1: agree with me that Edgecomb out of Baylor is the
Speaker 1: move here. And I think that Conk Nipple is interesting.
Speaker 1: I think Trey Johnson is interesting, but I think the
Speaker 1: answer is Edgecomb. I have thought ever since it seemed
Speaker 1: like Ace Bailey was not interested and they maybe weren't
Speaker 1: super interested in him, it has seemed pretty clear that
Speaker 1: this was going to be Edgecomb, and we'll find out
Speaker 1: momentarily if it is. I the Sixers are such an
Speaker 1: interesting team right now because one of the things that
Speaker 1: was lost in their terrible season was that Tyrese Maxi
Speaker 1: was coming off his you know, Superstar blow up if
Speaker 1: you will, Superstars too Strong, but for in Superstar in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. That twenty twenty four season, Tyrese Maxi
Speaker 1: averaged twenty six points six assists a game. In that postseason,
Speaker 1: he played forty five minutes a night. He averaged in
Speaker 1: last year's first round thirty points per game, and in
Speaker 1: one of those games I think I might have been
Speaker 1: the game I was at. He had damn near a
Speaker 1: fifty piece in their overtime win in New York. I
Speaker 1: went to two games that series. I think I went
Speaker 1: to that win, but I also went to a game
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. And then this year he averaged twenty six
Speaker 1: again and nobody cared because the team was no good
Speaker 1: and that pick is in and it is in fact
Speaker 1: VJ Edgecombe to Philadelphia. So here's the reason I mention
Speaker 1: any of that. MAXI is a really good player. Jared
Speaker 1: McCain was the favorite in my eyes for Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year last year. But despite what I can, you know,
Speaker 1: I could do without some of the I'm gonna sound
Speaker 1: like such an old man, some of the ticktocking. But
Speaker 1: he was awesome as a rookie, A nice surprise. I
Speaker 1: thought he was, you know, as a just outside the
Speaker 1: lottery pick. I thought he was really good and fun
Speaker 1: and interesting last year. But then he gets hurt. Paul
Speaker 1: George's career goes totally sideways, at least for a year,
Speaker 1: and Embeid. They're talking about breaking his hip to fix
Speaker 1: his knee. Doesn't sound good to me. With that said,
Speaker 1: if Paul George can just bounce back a bit, if
Speaker 1: Embiid can be healthy, if Maxie can stay Maxie, and
Speaker 1: if Jared McCain go back to being Jared McCain and
Speaker 1: you had this kid Edgecomb, Like, can that team win
Speaker 1: the East? I don't know, Like, have you looked at
Speaker 1: the East recently? Don't forget they have? If they potentially
Speaker 1: are gonna bring him back, which I imagine they would. Quentin
Speaker 1: Grimes like, and I understand, I know I am, you know,
Speaker 1: probably biased towards Daryl Morey because he's my pal, But
Speaker 1: I trust Daryl Moray to fill out the roster around him.
Speaker 1: Daniel our great producer who I probably unfairly maligned on
Speaker 1: the pod yesterday. Sorry about that. Daniel says, does embiad
Speaker 1: need to make it out around two? Of course he does.
Speaker 1: And Simmons makes the point a lot and he's not wrong, Like,
Speaker 1: can you at this point trust Joelle? Like when you
Speaker 1: think about the NBA Playoffs? I said this to Wilds
Speaker 1: and Brew. The NBA Playoffs ended Sunday night and went Monday,
Speaker 1: I said to Wilds and Brew, I'm like, man, the
Speaker 1: think about how long ago we were talking about JJ
Speaker 1: Reddick playing all five starters for the entire second half.
Speaker 1: That feels like that was a year ago. That was
Speaker 1: during these playoffs. And so the reason I mentioned that is,
Speaker 1: can you realistically see em Bed making it through those
Speaker 1: four rounds when we've never really seen him make it
Speaker 1: through two full rounds fully healthy? And the answer to
Speaker 1: that question is probably not. But is it definitely not
Speaker 1: in this year's East, I don't know. All right, Before
Speaker 1: we get to the Charlotte Hornets, one last point on
Speaker 1: what is will become the story of the draft, and
Speaker 1: the Hornet's got a few minutes left to make their pick.
Speaker 1: I would I would imagine, and I promise I you know,
Speaker 1: I am not if somebody is tipping picks, I'm unaware
Speaker 1: of it. So this is just guessing. I know, if
Speaker 1: Jordan was there, they would be taking Conkinipple. I could
Speaker 1: see Charlotte saying screw it, we're gonna take the most
Speaker 1: talented guy and take Ace Bailey. I'm a Malawac fan.
Speaker 1: This is probably I don't know, I don't know who
Speaker 1: it is. The options are Bailey, Trey Johnson, Conkinnipple, Fears,
Speaker 1: or Malawac. I'll tell you another guy who I if
Speaker 1: I were. If I were Brooklyn at eight and this
Speaker 1: player was available, I would be taking Derrek Queen. I
Speaker 1: like Derrek Quinn, and I think Derrek Queen could be,
Speaker 1: outside of Bailey and Flag, the best player in this draft.
Speaker 1: So the reporting is the Pelicans and the Wizards are
Speaker 1: trying to trade up to four. See and I would
Speaker 1: have to imagine, so listen, if they are trying to
Speaker 1: trade up to four, I would think that is for
Speaker 1: Ace Bailey. I would and if that's the case, if
Speaker 1: one of these teams is I'm looking, I'm now realizing
Speaker 1: I can just look at my phone to see if
Speaker 1: there's news on here. Dallas fans were chanting fire Nico
Speaker 1: at the Mavericks draft watch party. That, by the way,
Speaker 1: because Bruce said on the show today that Cooper Flag
Speaker 1: being awesome might take some of the sting out of
Speaker 1: this for Nico, and I just totally disagree with that.
Speaker 1: I think Dallas fans are never gonna forgive Nico for that,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they're gonna give him credit for
Speaker 1: lo fucking into Cooper flag. But if the if Ace
Speaker 1: does go four and it ends up being you know,
Speaker 1: he maybe at most cost himself one draft spot, but
Speaker 1: it's because he wants to go somewhere he can be
Speaker 1: a featured part of the offense and you know, build
Speaker 1: immediately towards the second contract. Then you can't say definitively
Speaker 1: that he played this wrong, even if he turned some
Speaker 1: people off. Now, if he falls all the way to eight,
Speaker 1: it's a different situation. But the Hornets are on the clock,
Speaker 1: it looks like they are making the pick now. One
Speaker 1: of the weird things about the NBA draft, unlike the
Speaker 1: NFL draft, is what you absolutely never see on the
Speaker 1: NFL draft is a team picks a player and then
Speaker 1: post pick trades the player. I've never understood. Sorry, I
Speaker 1: gotta fix. I know he's been running the whole show.
Speaker 1: You never see a team pick a player in the
Speaker 1: NFL draft and then an hour later later trade him.
Speaker 1: In the NBA, this happens pretty often. Guy does the hat,
Speaker 1: does the whole thing, and then finds out ten picks
Speaker 1: later that he is in fact going somewhere else. So
Speaker 1: if the Pelicans and the Wizards were trying to trade
Speaker 1: up to get the fourth pick. I would imagine that
Speaker 1: even if they the Hornets end up making this pick,
Speaker 1: maybe it could be on the move. But I'm really
Speaker 1: curious who this is gonna be. You would have to
Speaker 1: imagine because they have LaMelo there that Fears and Trey
Speaker 1: Johnson are incredibly unlikely they have. They have two early
Speaker 1: second round picks as well. They are also, you know,
Speaker 1: in the process of turning the page from Jordan's horrific
Speaker 1: draft history, and the safest pick is probably Conker Nipple.
Speaker 1: The highest upside pick is probably Ace Bailey. And this
Speaker 1: is not a team that I know. I said there.
Speaker 1: You know, they probably think they can't take Johnson or
Speaker 1: Fears because they have LaMelo. They should not be worried
Speaker 1: about need at all. This is a team that needs everything,
Speaker 1: and this is a team that I think if they
Speaker 1: could find a way to turn the page from LaMelo
Speaker 1: and get cool stuff back for him, I don't think
Speaker 1: that necessarily would be a problem, but it's definitely not
Speaker 1: something they want to do. But this pick is in
Speaker 1: Adam Silver is walking to the podium, and it is
Speaker 1: in fact Conknipple. I think that's the right pick. It's
Speaker 1: I think that he is a guy who's draft stock
Speaker 1: really shot up in the last year. I don't think
Speaker 1: going into listen, I'm not a huge NBA mock draft
Speaker 1: guy the way I am NFL, but I don't think
Speaker 1: a year out mock many of them had Conk Nipple
Speaker 1: being the fourth player taken. But I think I thought
Speaker 1: he was awesome at Duke. I think that he played
Speaker 1: a style of basketball that is going to fit in
Speaker 1: great with the modern NBA. And I think he is
Speaker 1: as maybe not the upside, certainly not the upside of
Speaker 1: Ace and maybe not even the upside of Trey or
Speaker 1: in my opinion, Derek Queen, but a absolutely as clean
Speaker 1: of a prospect as you can get, and I think
Speaker 1: it's the right pick. I think the Hornets need solid,
Speaker 1: serious NBA players, and he strikes me as a guy
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Speaker 1: again I am not and I have never pretended to be.
Speaker 1: I do try to be a uh a NFL draft expert.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't try to be an NBA
Speaker 1: draft expert. So this is maybe just you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say dumb luck or just following the
Speaker 1: people who are experts. The first four picks have gone
Speaker 1: the way if I were running those Let me put
Speaker 1: it like this, if I were running those four teams
Speaker 1: the way I would have done it. Now, the first
Speaker 1: two everyone would have done, and the third I think
Speaker 1: most people would have done. But this is where this
Speaker 1: is where I might differ in that I do not
Speaker 1: think that at five, Utah is going to take Derrick Queen.
Speaker 1: I do think if I were Utah at five, I
Speaker 1: would take Derrick Queen and listen, Utah at some point,
Speaker 1: I have to decide whether or not they want to
Speaker 1: win basketball games, and it is in my interest is
Speaker 1: someone that will root for the Lakers as long as
Speaker 1: Lebron's there to have them sell off Walker Kessler and
Speaker 1: you know, continue to be unseerious. But the Jazz, the
Speaker 1: Jazz striving to be bad every year post Donovan and Rudy,
Speaker 1: I think is disheartening and them intentionally getting rid of
Speaker 1: or wanting to get rid of any of their quality
Speaker 1: players and the guys who end up turning into quality
Speaker 1: players kind of putting them on ice as they go
Speaker 1: from thirty seven wins to thirty one wins to seventeen wins.
Speaker 1: Is I think Jazz fans deserve better and I just
Speaker 1: don't see it coming to an end any time soon.
Speaker 1: And when you look at the team, there are there
Speaker 1: are two guys in Marketing and Walker Kessler that you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I unequivocally definitely want to be, you know, in in
Speaker 1: that in their business as far as the moving forward,
Speaker 1: and one of those guys might be gone this offseason
Speaker 1: they last year. You know, I'm not talking about the
Speaker 1: guys they've just now drafted the last year, in the
Speaker 1: year before, but as far as guys that are either
Speaker 1: veterans like market In or assumed to be veteran like
Speaker 1: Walker Kessler, and I don't think they're good enough obviously
Speaker 1: yet to win or compete at a high level. But
Speaker 1: if you this year again trade away one of your
Speaker 1: better players and it seems like both of them in
Speaker 1: Marketing and Walker Kessler, are available, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Especially when I think the draft gods have you know,
Speaker 1: they slapped your wrist this year by having you fall
Speaker 1: to five, and so I'm very interested in who they
Speaker 1: end up picking. I think that they won't have I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna have the guts is the wrong word.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna roll the dice on Bailey
Speaker 1: because he made for reasons that I'm not entirely sure on,
Speaker 1: except for maybe he just doesn't want to live there,
Speaker 1: because they every other thing. If you want to be featured,
Speaker 1: if you want to have a place where they'll run
Speaker 1: the offense through you, all that. I think Will Hardy's
Speaker 1: a fine coach, that makes a lot of sense. And
Speaker 1: so oh, they do take him. They do take Ace Valley,
Speaker 1: and now I'm watching for his reaction. So that is
Speaker 1: a that's a gutsy move by Danny Ainge that I
Speaker 1: will give credit for. I didn't think. I thought that
Speaker 1: maybe he was gonna be able to force his way
Speaker 1: to Washington or Brooklyn, his preferred destinations. And now, by
Speaker 1: the way, we haven't had we haven't had any trades,
Speaker 1: and we need to remember trades absolutely do happen in
Speaker 1: the NBA draft. And by the way, one of the
Speaker 1: reasons we're doing this live is so we can answer
Speaker 1: your guys questions. And so you guys, can you know,
Speaker 1: put those in the chat right now if you'd like,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to him where you can. I think
Speaker 1: that's the right play. I think if you're Utah, you
Speaker 1: simply it's the gutsiest play for sure. Of the guys
Speaker 1: on the board, he has the highest upside, the only
Speaker 1: guy who I think, and again I'm higher on this
Speaker 1: guy than most I guess has similar upside as Derek Queen.
Speaker 1: And he made it very clear he wants to be featured.
Speaker 1: He wants to be the centerpiece of an offense. It's
Speaker 1: why he had no interest in Philadelphia. Well, lucky you
Speaker 1: man in Utah, you will be now I do. I
Speaker 1: am hesitant on at this point in the draft talking
Speaker 1: about fits for almost any of these guys, because I
Speaker 1: would imagine some of at least one of these guys
Speaker 1: is going to be traded to another team in the
Speaker 1: next thirty minutes. That's what draft's history has told us.
Speaker 1: Thus how far it hasn't happened. And so now all right,
Speaker 1: So now let's reset, because listen, I'll be interested to
Speaker 1: see who Ace Bailey ends up being. He was supposed
Speaker 1: to be going into this year the second pick of
Speaker 1: this year's draft. His teammate Dylan Harper snagged that spot
Speaker 1: for him. He then kind of orchestrated his own ineligibility
Speaker 1: almost from being the third pick. He ends up falling
Speaker 1: only to number five. But now so we are now
Speaker 1: at flag one obvious Dylan Harper too obvious VJ. Edgecombe
Speaker 1: three less obvious but likely uh Conkininpple four, and then
Speaker 1: Ace Bailey goes five to Utah. And so now the
Speaker 1: question that I think is most somebody asks, is there
Speaker 1: a chance they trade Bailey tonight? That's what I'm talking about. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys have watched the NBA draft
Speaker 1: throughout your lives, Guys do whole interviews wearing the hat
Speaker 1: talking about how excited they are. There was the kid
Speaker 1: who was it his mom worked for the Sixers? Was
Speaker 1: it Mikhale Bridges whose mom worked for the Sixers? He
Speaker 1: got drafted by the Sixers. He was all excited and happy,
Speaker 1: and then he got traded to the Suns. And and
Speaker 1: so yeah, certainly Bailey getting traded tonight's on the board.
Speaker 1: Any of anybody really other than Flagg and Harper getting
Speaker 1: traded tonight or on the board. But in the meantime,
Speaker 1: as the broadcast goes to commercial, let's just reset for
Speaker 1: a second on who might attempt to move up? So
Speaker 1: the top guys on the board if we just go
Speaker 1: by consensus big board standards really or Trey Johnson in
Speaker 1: the Guard out of Texas, Jeremiah Fears the Guard out
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma, who I know from just listening to guys
Speaker 1: who have been covering the draft really year round, is
Speaker 1: a guy that some teams are absolutely in love with.
Speaker 1: And that a guy that I think some teams might
Speaker 1: if he slips a bit, try to move up and
Speaker 1: snag Malawak, who I floated out there would is there
Speaker 1: a team would the Lakers consider trading Austin Reeves straight
Speaker 1: up for Malawak? For the pick for Malawak? Derek Queen,
Speaker 1: who I like a lot, and that's kind of the
Speaker 1: and the other guy that I guess people really know
Speaker 1: is Carter Bryant. But there are most people have said
Speaker 1: there's a very, you know, firm top eight. I feel
Speaker 1: there's a firm top nine because I like Queen. And
Speaker 1: then it gets a little trickier. Then we get to
Speaker 1: a bunch of European guys and guys that we're gonna
Speaker 1: spend less time on at least here, Is there a player?
Speaker 1: Or more accurately, yeah, is there a Do the Brooklyn
Speaker 1: Nets now look at it and say we have eight, nineteen,
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty six, twenty seven, and thirty six. That's
Speaker 1: obviously an absurdity. We obviously cannot draft six players tonight.
Speaker 1: We can't certainly can't draft five first rounders with guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 1: Does Brooklyn have a guy they really want? And do
Speaker 1: they package eight and twenty to move up two spots
Speaker 1: with Washington? Does Oklahoma City look at Malawak and just
Speaker 1: with their kind of you know, ten thousand year vision
Speaker 1: and say, all right, we are likely in two years
Speaker 1: not gonna have Hartenstein on this team anymore. Would we
Speaker 1: like to have a guy who can catch Lob's defensive
Speaker 1: minded big man to back up Chet? And is it
Speaker 1: worth using some of our far you know, almost superfluous
Speaker 1: draft capital to move up from fifteen to try to
Speaker 1: snag him if he drops? Like? Those are those are
Speaker 1: now the questions I think teams are going to be asking.
Speaker 1: And I have been shocked, And I'll get to listener
Speaker 1: questions in a second, I shocked is maybe too strong. Uh?
Speaker 1: I have been. I'm surprised we've had no trades. It
Speaker 1: felt to me like this was going and not only
Speaker 1: trades of picks for picks, but potentially trades of veteran players,
Speaker 1: you know, being involved in draft day trades, which we
Speaker 1: have seen in the past. But five picks in there
Speaker 1: have been none. Uh. Andrew asked, do you really think
Speaker 1: the Jazz aren't trying to win or is the West
Speaker 1: just that tough? No, man, if you the Jazz, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure got fined for not trying to win last year.
Speaker 1: The sixth pick is in Adam Silver's at the podium,
Speaker 1: and in his trade, Johnson goes to the Washington Wizards.
Speaker 1: So the consensus mock mocks, by the way, are they
Speaker 1: had one through four exactly right. NBA dot Com actually
Speaker 1: published the consensus mock and they had Tray five A six.
Speaker 1: It ends up Ace five Tray six and so what
Speaker 1: does oh and Jonathan Givoni, that's a useful note, says
Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz are keeping Ace Bailey. Okay, So whenever
Speaker 1: you've got to send that tweet out, By the way,
Speaker 1: that kind of verifies, at least to me, validates for
Speaker 1: me at least my instincts that it was. Some people
Speaker 1: were curious, are they drafting him to keep him or
Speaker 1: drafting him to trade him? So the Wizards have another
Speaker 1: first rounder they have picked eighteen. They also, of course
Speaker 1: traded away Oran Poole. Uh yesterday or the day before yesterday.
Speaker 1: The day's all run together. Trey Johnson out of Texas,
Speaker 1: the SEC Freshman of the Year, and he goes to
Speaker 1: Washington and instantly, I mean becomes I mean, are they
Speaker 1: gonna ask now that Jordan Pool's gone, They're gonna ask
Speaker 1: him to be their number one score? Maybe the producers
Speaker 1: say thoughts on the shorts for Trey Johnson. I guess
Speaker 1: I didn't see if he wore a suit with shorts.
Speaker 1: That's not really my style, but I've got to see
Speaker 1: it in order to actually respond to it. Let's k
Speaker 1: twenty two m ask who trades for Deer and Fox.
Speaker 1: Ain't room for all them guards in San Antonio? Uh No,
Speaker 1: there's certainly there is room net right now. There certainly
Speaker 1: is Like you can have remember Oklahoma City the one
Speaker 1: year had shrewder Sga and Chris Paul Like you can
Speaker 1: have three quality guards that you for the time being,
Speaker 1: at least I don't, and so I think San Antonio
Speaker 1: is just trying to keep all of their options open.
Speaker 1: Nathan asking any team truly draft into being championship caliber tonight, Well, sure,
Speaker 1: if we're if we're not talking about next year's championship.
Speaker 1: Fact of the matter is, in the NBA, rookies don't
Speaker 1: help you win titles like Daniel's Nuggets did it with
Speaker 1: Christian Brown having a small, small, small role. But rookies
Speaker 1: don't help you win titles in this league. They just
Speaker 1: never have. I shouldn't say never. Obviously magic did, but
Speaker 1: historically that that's not where it goes. But yeah, teams
Speaker 1: can certainly. Oh I'm looking at the picture now. Oh
Speaker 1: that's a fine look. Listen. I I'm just gonna sound
Speaker 1: like an old man. I'm not gonna you know, the
Speaker 1: fashions change over the years. It's a fine look. I'm
Speaker 1: not even gonna venture into it. Uh So one flag,
Speaker 1: two Harper to San Antonio, three, Edge Comb to Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: four Canipple to the Hornets, five Ace Bailey to the
Speaker 1: Jazz and six Uh just happened, my goodness? Uh, Trey Johnson,
Speaker 1: sorry to the Wizards, And now the Pelican's on the clock,
Speaker 1: and I am unstunned at this point. Now we've had
Speaker 1: no trades, and I also wonder if Brooklyn like Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: At some point, Brooklyn's gotta figure out what the hell
Speaker 1: they're gonna do with these picks. You can't draft five
Speaker 1: first rounders. You literally don't have the roster spots for him,
Speaker 1: like I don't. I'm sure their plan is to package
Speaker 1: some together, but you're not gonna It's pretty clear you're
Speaker 1: not packaging anything together to move up from eight. So
Speaker 1: maybe you're thinking you'd put nineteen and twenty two together
Speaker 1: and that moves you up to I don't know what's
Speaker 1: that worth fifteen. I'm really not certain. All right, So
Speaker 1: now we're on New Orleans, which just New Orleans just
Speaker 1: acquired Jordan Poole in a move. I don't totally understand
Speaker 1: the Pelicans right now. They're kind of cap sheet, so
Speaker 1: to speak, which also can be a de facto depth chart.
Speaker 1: They just got Pool and Sadiq Bay, They obviously have Zion,
Speaker 1: They have Dejonte Murray coming off in Achilles, and then
Speaker 1: they have two guys that I like, and I think
Speaker 1: everybody likes and Trey Murphy and he and Herb Jones,
Speaker 1: Alvarado's fine, and then young player Jordan Hawkins. Uh I
Speaker 1: I would imagine, well, I don't know. Maybe the answer
Speaker 1: here is they go Malawac. I think Derek Queen and
Speaker 1: Zion together is a bit of a curious fit. I
Speaker 1: would have said Jeremiah Fears if they hadn't just traded,
Speaker 1: if they hadn't just traded for Jordan Poole. So I
Speaker 1: think the smart pick would be Malwac. I think the
Speaker 1: consensus pick here is Fears, And maybe they don't care
Speaker 1: they traded for Jordan Poole. Maybe it's like, no, you know,
Speaker 1: Jordan Poole should not dictate our draft plans, which I
Speaker 1: agree with. But you still just traded for a guy
Speaker 1: who's third million this year and thirty four million next year.
Speaker 1: And if they do well, we should be able to
Speaker 1: Let's just find out here in a second exactly who
Speaker 1: they are picking, because it will obviously greatly inform for Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: If if they go Fears, then I think Brooklyn is
Speaker 1: in a really interesting spot, and I'll explain why in
Speaker 1: a second. But is the is Adam Silver gonna walk
Speaker 1: to the podium and the producers ask our Pool and
Speaker 1: Zion one of the most fun league pass teams. Maybe,
Speaker 1: I mean is certainly if Shackton a fool's gonna exist,
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna get some fun out of it. And
Speaker 1: for the handful of games Zion's fully healthy and awesome,
Speaker 1: you'll get something out of it. I just don't look
Speaker 1: at them as neither one has taken their career super seriously.
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Fears is the pick. So New Orleans does take
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Fears, and so that is that is a hell
Speaker 1: of a chain. I like that. So New Orleans next
Speaker 1: year is gonna trot out. It'll be Fears, Jordan Poole
Speaker 1: as you're starting back court, Zion, Trey Murphy as you're
Speaker 1: starting front court. I don't know who you're starting. Sinner
Speaker 1: is going to be, and then Herb Jones. I guess
Speaker 1: Herb or Trey Murphy alongside Zion, and then Dejonta Murray
Speaker 1: when he comes back from his achilles. I don't understand
Speaker 1: the Pelicans. And again that's nothing against Fears. Fears fine player.
Speaker 1: I the at one point last year it looked like
Speaker 1: he might you know, finish top three in the Wooden Award.
Speaker 1: It's nothing against fears. I guess there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of players that I thought would have made a ton
Speaker 1: of sense thereof than Malawac. But all right, so here
Speaker 1: is what I was saying about the Nets that I
Speaker 1: think is interesting. So if you are the Brooklyn Nets
Speaker 1: now and you know that a team like the Lakers
Speaker 1: would probably pay a little more than they should for
Speaker 1: Nick Claxton, does that inform at all your opinion on
Speaker 1: whether or not you want to just seamlessly draft Claxton's
Speaker 1: replacement in Malawak and with the plans of having a
Speaker 1: higher upside in my opinion, defensive minded center. You can
Speaker 1: catch lobs and not that Clason's got a bad contract.
Speaker 1: It makes twenty five to twenty three twenty and and
Speaker 1: whether it's the Lakers or someone else, Claxon has some
Speaker 1: value or do you is your plan if you're Brooklyn
Speaker 1: that you are going to you know, you obviously are
Speaker 1: going to package some of those other picks. You have to.
Speaker 1: I know, I keep saying there's going to be trades.
Speaker 1: There has to be trades. At some point, package some
Speaker 1: of those other picks to move up to where you
Speaker 1: have the eighth pick and then also have like the
Speaker 1: tenth or the eleventh pick, and you want to take
Speaker 1: Derreck Queen. Now, I I think Derek Queen has if
Speaker 1: I were how about this? This is a fun game.
Speaker 1: Guys most likely in this draft to at one point
Speaker 1: in their career show up on someone's MVP ballot. Number
Speaker 1: one with a bullet is obviously flag. Number two I
Speaker 1: think is pretty obviously Harper. I think number three is
Speaker 1: Derek Queen. Now that also might be top ten picks,
Speaker 1: you know, most likely to be traded before the end
Speaker 1: of their rookie contract. Maybe Queen's also that. But if
Speaker 1: I'm Brooklyn, for me, the talent and upside of Queen
Speaker 1: is impossible to pass up unless I already know I'm
Speaker 1: trading Claxton. And I feel like, you know what, even
Speaker 1: if even if I am trading Claxton, I probably shouldn't
Speaker 1: be drafting for this year anyway. I still think you
Speaker 1: probably take Queen. But I could totally see them going
Speaker 1: mall lock here and then signaling to the entire league.
Speaker 1: Nick Claxton is available, and for Brooklyn, their best the
Speaker 1: what Brooklyn has going for it is their future draft picks. Really,
Speaker 1: so Brooklyn after this year they have they have all
Speaker 1: these picks this year, and then in twenty seven they
Speaker 1: have a Knicks first. In twenty seven they have a
Speaker 1: Philly first. They have their own obviously that year in
Speaker 1: twenty six they have their own, and then whore what's
Speaker 1: the other? I thought they had one really juicy first
Speaker 1: round pick. Oh, maybe it's just they got all their
Speaker 1: own picks back. And then there's they they are one
Speaker 1: of the teams that is involved in like a seven
Speaker 1: way pick swap in twenty twenty nine that I just
Speaker 1: can't quite figure out. But so that's what now. I
Speaker 1: remember Brooklyn got their own draft picks back, which was
Speaker 1: very important for them after they didn't have those, which
Speaker 1: kind of allowed them to reset everything they were doing.
Speaker 1: All Right, the nets are celebrating. I wonder what they're celebrating.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're just celebrating that they made their pick. Are
Speaker 1: we gonna get any trades tonight? I'll be honest, And
Speaker 1: I appreciate my friends at boost Mobile for setting this
Speaker 1: up and for us doing this today, and I enjoy
Speaker 1: doing it. But I thought one of the reasons I
Speaker 1: was excited to do it was because I thought it
Speaker 1: would be live reacting to a bunch of trades. There
Speaker 1: have been none, and the Nets draft room, I don't.
Speaker 1: It seems to me like they are reacting to uh
Speaker 1: making a pick. So maybe there's still no trades. Kin
Speaker 1: asks no concern about Queen's motor. No, there are concerns.
Speaker 1: That's why I said, I think he is a you know,
Speaker 1: low floor, high ceiling guy, maybe the low floor high
Speaker 1: ceiling guy of this draft. But it's still it's still
Speaker 1: to me if you're the Nets worth a dice roll
Speaker 1: because you need you need a high ceiling player. And
Speaker 1: as much as I like Malawak Malawac, you know exactly
Speaker 1: what he's going to be. He is not going to
Speaker 1: be a high ceiling player. He is going to be
Speaker 1: a very useful player. And the hope is that he
Speaker 1: can be like a better version of Clint Capella, which
Speaker 1: is again a very useful player, and we'll have a
Speaker 1: long career in this league, but no chance of being
Speaker 1: a star. Wow, I'm just looking at the screen. It
Speaker 1: says Jay Billis is five best available and Queen's not
Speaker 1: even one of them. So maybe I'm just way out
Speaker 1: to lunch on Queen. But I love him. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm very fascinated by him. To me this, this is
Speaker 1: either if I'm running Brooklyn, it's either Queen or Malawoc
Speaker 1: and Adam Silver is going to it's Egor Dimon. I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you that one I didn't see coming. That
Speaker 1: is the guard out of BYU. Where So so let
Speaker 1: me or I'm pronouncing his name wrong, Yegor Denham. My apologies.
Speaker 1: Adam Lefgo just texts me demean my guy. So that
Speaker 1: was and I'm trying. I'm this is the first pick
Speaker 1: that is I think far outside the consensus. Now again
Speaker 1: I don't think that that is a negative necessarily, but
Speaker 1: ESPN's final mock had Yegor going thirteenth. The Ringers final
Speaker 1: mock didn't have him in the lottery. The Athletics final
Speaker 1: mock didn't have him in the lottery. Yeah who sports
Speaker 1: is didn't? Bleacher Reports didn't? Is that right? Let me
Speaker 1: just I mean that's what it seemed the I'm looking
Speaker 1: So who did, NET Scouts did, and CBS sports is
Speaker 1: Gary Parrish, my old buddy, and they all had him
Speaker 1: at thirteen. So let me this. I'm doing this on
Speaker 1: the fly. I apologize. See what his consensus spot was
Speaker 1: and again that's not everything, but it is. This is
Speaker 1: the first reach is too strong. But this is the
Speaker 1: first one that is kind of off the board from
Speaker 1: where we had seen it before. So the ESPN, which
Speaker 1: who is it for? ESPN? I want to be fair here.
Speaker 1: Who wrote this? Oh? This is Gavoni? So Gavoni? Who
Speaker 1: is the best at this? I think Gavoni had him
Speaker 1: going thirteenth, so not a huge reach. And it's so funny,
Speaker 1: he writes, Let me pull this up real quick. I
Speaker 1: apologize there it is. Deman Is another player has been
Speaker 1: tough to pin down in terms of his landing spot.
Speaker 1: He got that exactly right. Having worked out for the
Speaker 1: vast majority of franchises inside the top teams believe he's
Speaker 1: a possibility for Toronto, Portland and Chicago as well. Good
Speaker 1: for you, Gavoni, as well as a sleeper target for Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: But it's possible to slip past that, at which point
Speaker 1: there's a best available case for a club such as
Speaker 1: the Hawks. Simply take a swing, okay, And then he
Speaker 1: writes at his size, Demon's potential versatility as a perimeter
Speaker 1: playmaker stands out in the context of this class. The
Speaker 1: development of his jump or something he has worked on
Speaker 1: to showcase in private is one of the more pivotal
Speaker 1: swings for any prospect. Oh and that wasn't Cavoni, that
Speaker 1: was Wu. But this is Wu. In Cavoni's article, my
Speaker 1: apologies want to give credit words due, Jeremy Wu wrote
Speaker 1: that section of it. So that is that is a
Speaker 1: a surprising one to me. Caavoni, who lives and breathes this,
Speaker 1: you know, probably not as surprised as he says. A
Speaker 1: potential sleeper, but still he was considered, you know, a
Speaker 1: guy that might fall out of the lottery and obviously didn't.
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Speaker 1: All right, so Raptors are on the clock. The Raptors
Speaker 1: are another team that and I said this on the
Speaker 1: TV show today, and I know I'm not the only one.
Speaker 1: I'm a little confused at what the Raptors playing is
Speaker 1: Like the Raptors were mentioned as a team. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh man, could the Raptors be interested in Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1: It's like, what why the Raptors during the year go
Speaker 1: get brandon Ingram a move that I didn't totally understand.
Speaker 1: I feel like there is at this point, Messi has
Speaker 1: to feel a real pressure, even though he won the
Speaker 1: championship in twenty nineteen, to put a real product back
Speaker 1: on the floor. I also feel like, and again I'm
Speaker 1: gonna sound like a broken record about my guys, and
Speaker 1: not the my guys, but about these two players. But
Speaker 1: Toronto's got a long history of being good with NBA
Speaker 1: international players. They also, when you already have Scottie Barnes
Speaker 1: are obviously trying to establish something of a physical defensive identity.
Speaker 1: But when you already have Barnes and you already have
Speaker 1: Ingram and you already have Barrett. Does uh what you
Speaker 1: McCall it? Does, Derek Queen make a lot of sense?
Speaker 1: So is this where Malawat goes like it? You feel
Speaker 1: like he's probably becomes their day one starting center. And
Speaker 1: I also am just really curious. What. Oh man, it
Speaker 1: looked like some one of these guys girlfriends whoever they
Speaker 1: just showed on the broadcast, looked like his girlfriend was crying,
Speaker 1: like nobody has fallen too far yet. And maybe I
Speaker 1: maybe I don't want to use Uh they're showing Colin
Speaker 1: Murray boils from South Carolina. Maybe she wasn't crying. Maybe
Speaker 1: I just glanced at it wrong, but she looks when
Speaker 1: I saw, she looked very upset. Like nobody's having an
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers style drop right now. Nobody should be upset.
Speaker 1: Everybody'd be very happy, uh with it, with how this
Speaker 1: is gone. No, there's nobody that was expected to go
Speaker 1: top five that's still on the board, and still we're
Speaker 1: only on the ninth pick. We're on the ninth pick
Speaker 1: and we have, by the way, salmon got in the trade,
Speaker 1: which if it sounds like I'm annoyed by it. I
Speaker 1: guess I am a little annoyed by it because I
Speaker 1: expected there to be like some insane action which just
Speaker 1: hasn't happened. Now. It's great for these kids, but I
Speaker 1: don't know, I expected there to be wild trades up
Speaker 1: to this point. Colin Murray, oh maybe is that oh man? So?
Speaker 1: Colin Murray Boyles so was just so? Is that? Aw man?
Speaker 1: Is that why the girlfriend? I feel bad speculating about this,
Speaker 1: but is that why she was so? Was she crying
Speaker 1: tears of happiness because he just got the text? Who's
Speaker 1: being drafted? Or was she crying? Is she sad because
Speaker 1: he's good? I mean, he's going to Canada. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's a really weird one. I don't know why that.
Speaker 1: The person sitting next one would have been upset. I
Speaker 1: am and if anybody, by the way, the if any
Speaker 1: of our producers, if they have we have audio, they
Speaker 1: have audio on the actual broadcast, and like it's not
Speaker 1: like the broadcast is gonna tell me anything about that,
Speaker 1: So I I don't I don't know. That was a
Speaker 1: weird one because I couldn't figure out why she was sad.
Speaker 1: But then the guy just got drafted and so obviously
Speaker 1: he knew, you know, a minute before or so, that
Speaker 1: he was gonna be drafted. I also fact check me
Speaker 1: on this. Is he is Colin Murray Boyles. Is he
Speaker 1: the first two year player to be drafted? Is he
Speaker 1: the first non freshman to be drafted? Am I forgetting somebody?
Speaker 1: I think he is? Check this for producers if you
Speaker 1: guys don't mind check that for me. I think he.
Speaker 1: I think he's the first non freshman to be drafted,
Speaker 1: which is kind of a sign of where we're at
Speaker 1: in the NBA and the college basketball. And again it's
Speaker 1: not even a value judgment, but the first eight picks
Speaker 1: of the draft, we're all one and done player so far.
Speaker 1: It also makes him that's so funny. Let me see
Speaker 1: exactly how old he is. It also makes him the
Speaker 1: oldest player drafted, and he is. That's unbelievable. He turned
Speaker 1: twenty two weeks ago. He's the So he's the oldest.
Speaker 1: He's the first twenty year old that's been drafted. He
Speaker 1: is also the only two year college player who was drafted.
Speaker 1: He is. If you're interested in his numbers. Last year
Speaker 1: at South Carolina, he was sixteen and eighth and super
Speaker 1: efficient and his freshman year. You know, was a good
Speaker 1: player ten and six last year even better sixteen and eight.
Speaker 1: Why is this girl so sad they're showing her more?
Speaker 1: I am flummixed by that. That is the biggest surprise
Speaker 1: of the night. Oh, I have a trade? Finally, what
Speaker 1: is hull? Wait a second, here, do we have a trade? Okay?
Speaker 1: So this is okay. The broadcast is being that's you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna go ahead and say that's a
Speaker 1: bad editorial decision. I apologize to the audience because it
Speaker 1: says I'm looking down at the at the ESPN broadcast
Speaker 1: and it says number picking number ten Houston with the
Speaker 1: Rockets logo, and then it says proposed trade with the Suns.
Speaker 1: And I guess this is because that trade technically can't
Speaker 1: take place yet. And so maybe it's this isn't an
Speaker 1: ESPN thing, Maybe it's an NBA thing where technically this
Speaker 1: is the Rockets pick. Technically the Rockets will be making
Speaker 1: this pick, but in reality, this is the Sun's making
Speaker 1: this pick. All right, So this if there is an again,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get picked here, I'll stop bringing him up.
Speaker 1: But if if this isn't Maluwak. Then I don't know
Speaker 1: what the hell's going on. If there's ever been a
Speaker 1: team that needs some semblance of reliable rim protection more
Speaker 1: than a team that's gonna trot out there Booker Bradley Beal,
Speaker 1: Jalen Green, and it has no bigs to speak of
Speaker 1: at all, and does not need a guy like Queen
Speaker 1: who's going to want you know, I would think a
Speaker 1: fair amount of shots and to run the show this,
Speaker 1: I would think. Now again, never doubt the power of
Speaker 1: Mattishbia to Mattishbia situation. But this has to be Malawac
Speaker 1: and they have to be thrilled that he fell to
Speaker 1: here like this is a guy that they will ask
Speaker 1: to be as a rookie, a suit their starting center
Speaker 1: from day one. And if they end up, I mean,
Speaker 1: who else could They're not gonna take Queen that I'm
Speaker 1: very very comfortable in. You can't take another guard, So
Speaker 1: you can't take the Illinois kid, You're I don't think
Speaker 1: Ishbia is gonna let him take an international player that
Speaker 1: he didn't see and so and I mean, you could
Speaker 1: take Carter Bryant. I suppose who's another guy that would
Speaker 1: greatly improve your defense. But I would imagine that this
Speaker 1: is madawock and it's so weird that they're putting all
Speaker 1: rockets that the NBA makes at the draft then put
Speaker 1: rockets logos and all this rocket stuff up there when
Speaker 1: we all know this is not the Rockets pick. But
Speaker 1: I suppose it is what it is. And I'm also
Speaker 1: you know, you guys know this. I am not a
Speaker 1: I don't feel a lot of obligations to the audience
Speaker 1: except for honesty. I am not gonna pretend if this
Speaker 1: ends up being that Noah Singway, any of the international guys,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pretend I know anything about them. I
Speaker 1: have not been uh, I have not been on the
Speaker 1: international beat sort of speak. All right, hold on, so
Speaker 1: let's see so we I see this right now, we
Speaker 1: do have a trade. The whole Hornets are trading center
Speaker 1: Mark Williams to the Phoenix Suns for the twenty ninth pick,
Speaker 1: that and a twenty twenty nine first round pick. So
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on a second, What the hell pick
Speaker 1: did the Suns just trade? All right, first of all,
Speaker 1: let's do this. Now we have some action boys. All right,
Speaker 1: this is the Rockets pick, but it's actually the Sun's pick.
Speaker 1: The Rockets pick, which is actually the Sun's pick. It
Speaker 1: it is Malawak and he is sobbing and that is
Speaker 1: a great scene. This kid from South Sudan, what a story.
Speaker 1: So happy for him. I was just saying, how Phoenix
Speaker 1: has to get some type of defensive big Did they
Speaker 1: just draft one and trade for one? I don't actually
Speaker 1: hate that, but I don't know how they're allowed to
Speaker 1: trade their twenty twenty ninth pick. So I've got to
Speaker 1: look this up. So the Sun's what in twenty twenty seven,
Speaker 1: I guess they have a swamp, so that's fine. In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight they have their own. In twenty twenty nine,
Speaker 1: oh they have a swamp. Okay, So one of the
Speaker 1: only draft picks that they are allowed to trade they
Speaker 1: just traded for Mark Williams. So gosh, this is put
Speaker 1: in the doc. What the original Mark Williams trade was,
Speaker 1: if you would guys, it was Dalton connect and a first.
Speaker 1: I believe they end up getting the twenty ninth pick
Speaker 1: of the draft, which Phoenix had from some other trade,
Speaker 1: and a twenty twenty nine first. All right, where I
Speaker 1: will give the Sun's even though I do not think
Speaker 1: they are going to be good at all? All right,
Speaker 1: So the initial trade was Dalton Connect, Cam Reddish, a
Speaker 1: twenty thirty swap, and an unprotected twenty thirty one first
Speaker 1: The new trade is the twenty ninth pick of this
Speaker 1: year's draft and a first rounder in twenty twenty nine, uh,
Speaker 1: which is here. It is the least favorable of Cleveland, Utah,
Speaker 1: and Minnesota's first round picks. So yeah, if you're the
Speaker 1: if you're Charlotte, you're a little more than a little annoyed.
Speaker 1: This is not nearly the same package the Lakers were
Speaker 1: gonna give you. The Lakers were giving you Dalton Connect,
Speaker 1: who was a top what was he the nineteenth pick
Speaker 1: last year, the eighteenth pick something like that, an unprotected
Speaker 1: twenty thirty one, and a swap in twenty thirty. Instead
Speaker 1: you are getting the twenty ninth pick and the worst
Speaker 1: of Cleveland, Utah, and Minnesota's twenty twenty nine picks. So
Speaker 1: that's not great. Now, what I will say is the
Speaker 1: Suns all of a sudden have two like and Dalton
Speaker 1: Knack was seventeen thick. The Suns all of a sudden
Speaker 1: do have now real depth at center, and they you know,
Speaker 1: Mark Williams is an injury risk, and so I don't
Speaker 1: I don't hate that trade for Phoenix. Fair is fair
Speaker 1: the twenty ninth pick and a crummy first rounder in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine, like a guaranteed to be crummy first rounder,
Speaker 1: because again you take Cleveland, Utah and Minnesota's first and
Speaker 1: it's the worst of those three is what they're getting.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good trade by Phoenix, and now
Speaker 1: they do have their center position taking care of it.
Speaker 1: I still don't know who there are point guards going
Speaker 1: to be, but that's not bad. By the way. Something
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Speaker 1: far through the first ten picks got the biggest boost
Speaker 1: of the draft. I'm you know what, after spending so
Speaker 1: much time kind of making fun of the Phoenix Suns
Speaker 1: for how they were run, I think that was a
Speaker 1: good little ninety seconds for them. I think getting Malawak,
Speaker 1: who is a player I like a lot, obviously, I've
Speaker 1: been talking about him for a half hour, and getting
Speaker 1: Mark Williams and the tenth pick on Malawauc makes a
Speaker 1: ton of sense. The twenty ninth pick this year. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know it's a first rounder, but not really, it's
Speaker 1: kind of a second rounder. And then what is guaranteed
Speaker 1: to be a pick somewhere in the twenties in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty nine. I think that's a really good I think that.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you now have forty eight minutes
Speaker 1: of defensive and lob catching center play next year when
Speaker 1: you had zero minutes of it last year. That will
Speaker 1: make a tangible difference for them. So I do like that. Now,
Speaker 1: is it enough for them to make the playoffs in
Speaker 1: the West? I do not think so, but it is.
Speaker 1: I still think that is a really useful I think
Speaker 1: that's a really useful maneuver for them. Say that again, Daniel,
Speaker 1: we have a trade coming in. I didn't hear you.
Speaker 1: I apologize. Oh, Memphis is trading up with the Blazers.
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Speaker 1: Portland Trailblazers are drafting and trading Cedric Coward. So the
Speaker 1: Portland Trailblazers at eleven are going to go ahead and
Speaker 1: draft Cedric Coward, who was a guy who was kind
Speaker 1: of on the fringes of the consensus mock drafts in
Speaker 1: the lottery. Well he wasn't, I shouldn't say on the
Speaker 1: fringes of the consensus. He was outside of the lottery
Speaker 1: in the consensus mocks, but just barely. He was projected
Speaker 1: to go fifteen sixteen. Memphis trades and goes up and
Speaker 1: gets him. I am very curious and once we have it,
Speaker 1: what the details of that trade are? Guy? What is
Speaker 1: I mean? He'll probably be the oldest player taken in
Speaker 1: this draft. He's a senior and that is almost unheard
Speaker 1: of in the lottery these days. And he was at
Speaker 1: Washington State after I think starting he went to three
Speaker 1: schools only one. That's an interesting profile on him. So
Speaker 1: he went to Wilmington I think went to Eastern Washington.
Speaker 1: One year at Washington State and only played six games,
Speaker 1: I believe due to injury, and he ends up going
Speaker 1: not only in the lottery, but Memphis wanted him enough
Speaker 1: and was worried enough he wasn't gonna be there they
Speaker 1: traded up for him. And it does not appear there's
Speaker 1: any details yet. Memphis was sitting at sixteen, so I
Speaker 1: would imagine you know that that was the key part
Speaker 1: of that trade. I know that he that excuse me,
Speaker 1: coward was considered its strong biggest strength, pardon me, was
Speaker 1: athleticism and a potential three and D guy. I don't
Speaker 1: think many people thought he was going to be a
Speaker 1: lottery pick. I will say it is kind of nice
Speaker 1: to see a four year college player and a guy
Speaker 1: who was. I'm gonna look it up. I don't think
Speaker 1: he uh was he even rated. I'm gonna look, I'm
Speaker 1: looking up his rivals ranking. Uh So that's that's so
Speaker 1: a guy who had to go to a small school
Speaker 1: and didn't have like that, to me, is a pretty
Speaker 1: cool story for him to end up being drafted where
Speaker 1: he was. The Grizzlies are sending the sixteenth pick, a
Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight first round pick via Orlando, and I
Speaker 1: mean that's a lot and two seconds. So I mean
Speaker 1: they loved him pretty clearly, and that is, I you know,
Speaker 1: a pretty aggressive move for a guy that I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought was would have been there
Speaker 1: when they were drafting. And so he he had a
Speaker 1: really good combine going into the comp because he had
Speaker 1: you have producers can check me on this. I think
Speaker 1: he was. What I remember is that he was gonna
Speaker 1: go play at Duke because he was gonna be his
Speaker 1: fourth school and he was gonna what I don't even
Speaker 1: remember what I read about it, but it was that
Speaker 1: he had gone from like D three to small D
Speaker 1: one to big D one and then he was gonna
Speaker 1: end up at Duke over the course, and then he
Speaker 1: crushed at the combine so much, he's just like, you
Speaker 1: know what, screw it, I'm staying in the draft. And
Speaker 1: now he ends up being a lottery pick, and so
Speaker 1: that is quite the price the Grizzlies paid. That's an
Speaker 1: interesting one. Like I don't again, I don't mind being aggressive,
Speaker 1: and I don't mind uh moving up to get a
Speaker 1: guy you've got to have. I just I don't think
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought you needed to move that
Speaker 1: far up to get that player. And I also think
Speaker 1: that that Orlando first round pick, like maybe it's all
Speaker 1: good in Orlando and that it all works out well
Speaker 1: with Bain and they are, you know, one of the
Speaker 1: next really good Eastern Conference teams. But I don't know
Speaker 1: that that one that feels like a rash move by Memphis.
Speaker 1: So I find that I find that interesting. The Bulls
Speaker 1: are on the clock. We've got two more picks we're
Speaker 1: gonna be doing. We'll do the Hawks in the Spurs,
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, I'm gonna be bummed
Speaker 1: out if my guy Derek Queen doesn't get drafted during
Speaker 1: the lottery and the the Bulls are on the clock.
Speaker 1: There are reports that they're taking you know what, I
Speaker 1: don't even want to say who the reports are that
Speaker 1: they're taking. We'll find out when everyone finds out. I
Speaker 1: haven't spoiled any picks yet. I just saw in the
Speaker 1: doc who they're you know what the reports are. I'll
Speaker 1: wait and see on it. The Bulls are another team that,
Speaker 1: aside from Kobe White being fun and being good, you
Speaker 1: wonder what exactly the plan ever is with them, other
Speaker 1: than they are hoping every year to win more than
Speaker 1: thirty six games in less than forty six games, and
Speaker 1: they seem to be very very adept at accomplishing exactly that.
Speaker 1: And they are I'm trying to see if there's more
Speaker 1: details on any or if there's any more trades. I'm
Speaker 1: not seeing any more trades at the moment. Oh, there
Speaker 1: is a trade hold on, all right. Well then since
Speaker 1: there's a trade for thirteen, all right, I'm gonna spoil
Speaker 1: the Bulls pick real quick. It would appear the Bulls
Speaker 1: are taking the French kid Noah a singue, A singue,
Speaker 1: I apologize if I'm saying your name wrong, young man,
Speaker 1: that's who they're taking, and the Atlanta Hawk a singe.
Speaker 1: The Atlanta Hawks are trading the number thirteen pick to
Speaker 1: New Orleans Pelicans. Wow? Wait this is this right? Hold
Speaker 1: on this tweet? This post has been deleted. I'm taking
Speaker 1: a screenshot of the shams because i want to see
Speaker 1: what they're actually trading it for. All right, let me okay,
Speaker 1: so is this post still up? The Hawks are trading
Speaker 1: the thirteenth pick in the draft to the Pelicans for
Speaker 1: the twenty third pick and an unprotected twenty twenty six
Speaker 1: first which will be the most favorable of New Orleans
Speaker 1: and Milwaukee. Hold did New Orleans just earmuffs kids? New
Speaker 1: Orleans just fucking traded away their next year's first round
Speaker 1: pick unprotected to move up from twenty three to thirteen.
Speaker 1: That might be the most reckless draft day trade I've
Speaker 1: seen in five years, with absolutely no due respect. Who
Speaker 1: the hell does New Orleans think they are? What is
Speaker 1: New Orleans doing trading away? If Shams is? If that again?
Speaker 1: I am base? I am trusting Shams implicitly. Noah Singue,
Speaker 1: whose name I'm mispronouncing, is the twelfth pick and now
Speaker 1: at thirteen again, I'm gonna read this exactly. The Atlanta
Speaker 1: Hawks are trading the number thirteen pick of the draft
Speaker 1: to New Orleans for the number twenty three, pick okay,
Speaker 1: thirteen for twenty three got it, and an unprotected twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six first, which will be the most favorable of
Speaker 1: New Orleans and Milwaukee. Sources tell ESPN, All right, now, listen,
Speaker 1: Even if this is to take my guy that I
Speaker 1: have been begging someone to take for thirty minutes, Derek Queen,
Speaker 1: this is one of the most reckless trades I can
Speaker 1: possibly imagine. Also, of all the places I would be
Speaker 1: nervous about derreck Queen, going New Orleans is high on
Speaker 1: the list. Now I have no idea who they're taking here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out in a minute. But you cannot
Speaker 1: if you're New Orleans trade away next year's forund pick unprotected.
Speaker 1: You could be terrible, Like I know you don't want
Speaker 1: to think you can be terrible, but you absolutely could
Speaker 1: be terrible. You Zion is a risk every year. Dejonte
Speaker 1: Murray will be coming off an Achilles? And when do when?
Speaker 1: When do we expect de Jonta Murray? Do we even
Speaker 1: and when I say coming off an Achilles, like, are
Speaker 1: we even sure de Jonta Murray will be coming off anything? Uh? Like?
Speaker 1: When do we think we're going to be seeing de
Speaker 1: Jonte Murray. Maybe not next year? He could he I
Speaker 1: mean he could miss the season. You have, Jordan Poole.
Speaker 1: I how can you possibly trade away your unprotected first
Speaker 1: round pick next year? Atlanta? Great job? This is the
Speaker 1: credit words do man. That is a hell of a
Speaker 1: job by Atlanta. You move back ten spots and you
Speaker 1: get a lottery ticket for next year. Like, who's here's
Speaker 1: a fun exercise? Whose unprotected first round picks for next
Speaker 1: season are more valuable than New Orleans? Like? Who are
Speaker 1: the teams that we feel like are have a better
Speaker 1: chance to just bottom out than New Orleans? Utah for sure, Washington, Charlotte,
Speaker 1: that's the list. New Orleans won twenty one games last year?
Speaker 1: What are they thinking? I'm maybe I shouldn't be as
Speaker 1: stunned by this, h but I am. This is one
Speaker 1: of what a baffling baffling? Who? Who is hold on
Speaker 1: Pelicans GM? Hold on the Atlanta Hawks? Oh? My goodness?
Speaker 1: Is it Dumars? Hold on a second? Here is the
Speaker 1: so the Atlanta Hawks? How about this? The Atlanta Hawks
Speaker 1: and new general manager on Cisala are finalizing deals to
Speaker 1: hire New Orleans Pelicans GM Brian Graham as the team's
Speaker 1: senior vice president of basketball operations. So hold on, the
Speaker 1: Hawks hired away a Pelicans guy. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: if the Pelicans had just hired away a Hawks guy
Speaker 1: and then they just gave the Hawks this deal, this
Speaker 1: guy was gonna call for an investigation. But this is
Speaker 1: Joe Dumars. Oh my god, Joe Dumars. Oh no, this
Speaker 1: is Joe Dumars's first big move. This is gonna be
Speaker 1: the new two Phones meme. I maybe I don't want
Speaker 1: to be overreacting. And by the way, the it was
Speaker 1: I it is Derek Queen, and I like Queen. I
Speaker 1: don't I his fit next to Zion. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: about it, but I was advocating that the Pelicans could
Speaker 1: have taken Derek Queen with the seventh pick, so there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. But they might have just traded
Speaker 1: the number one pick of next year's draft to move
Speaker 1: up from twenty three to thirteen. How do you not
Speaker 1: get a protection on it? And by the way, here's
Speaker 1: the other thing on that, Just to be totally clear
Speaker 1: and fair about what they traded. It's Milwaukee or New Orleans,
Speaker 1: the best of those, So it's even if New Orleans like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna problem because we're gonna be good. We
Speaker 1: know we're gonna be good. What if Milwaukee trades Giannis
Speaker 1: or he gets injured and they're terrible, then that pick goes.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we stayed on through the lottery. This is
Speaker 1: I could do an hour on this move. Zach Lowe
Speaker 1: just tweeted out a picture of the Pelican in the hospital.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, hold on, I have to We're gonna
Speaker 1: stay on a little bit longer. Currently having a conniption
Speaker 1: about what the Pelicans just did. Come join me. Uh okay,
Speaker 1: so I we're gonna spend a few minutes. Congratulations to
Speaker 1: Derek Queen. I actually think he's gonna be good. I
Speaker 1: think that's a fun pick. I and the Spurs and
Speaker 1: this will be this will be perfect. We can while
Speaker 1: while we really just react to what the Pelicans did.
Speaker 1: We'll find out who the Spurs and the thundertake at
Speaker 1: fourteen and fifteen and then we'll be out of here.
Speaker 1: And by the way, the the Nets still have all
Speaker 1: their picks, and the nets haven't moved up, and the
Speaker 1: nets right now we're on track to draft five guys
Speaker 1: in the first round, which seems like that's probably not
Speaker 1: a sustainable thing, but whatever. So I want this to
Speaker 1: be very clear. New Orleans, which won twenty one games
Speaker 1: this year, which has not had a resoundingly excellent season
Speaker 1: since Anthony Davis was there. Their closest thing to a
Speaker 1: successful season in the last seven years was two years
Speaker 1: ago when they won four forty nine games snuck in
Speaker 1: as the eight seed. Forty nine games is not sneaking in,
Speaker 1: that's good, and got absolutely lambassed in Round one four
Speaker 1: h last year. They took those forty nine wins clearly
Speaker 1: they thought we could be good, and despite that, they
Speaker 1: won twenty one games. Okay, Zion is obviously a huge
Speaker 1: question mark. They also just traded for Jordan Poole, who
Speaker 1: calling him a question mark I think is fair at
Speaker 1: the very least, though, what they had was their own
Speaker 1: first round pick next year, which could be important because
Speaker 1: to Jonta Murray, someone they in theory were relying on,
Speaker 1: could miss most of the year, if not all of
Speaker 1: the year, with a torn achilles They they also had
Speaker 1: the option to swap that pick with Milwaukee, which, and
Speaker 1: this is why swaps are interesting, that was I think
Speaker 1: that's the last piece of the Drew Holiday to Milwaukee trade,
Speaker 1: and that you know, if Milwaukee trades Yannis, or if
Speaker 1: something were to happen to Yannis, maybe that ends up
Speaker 1: being a super valuable swap. Not likely, but possible to
Speaker 1: give that up to move up, Tint, And you can't
Speaker 1: be like we thought this was a once in a
Speaker 1: generation player. You could have taken this guy an hour ago.
Speaker 1: You draft the Fears, which again I'm fine with that,
Speaker 1: and I like Derek Queen, but to trade away your
Speaker 1: own unprotected pick next year, slash Milwaukee's unprotected pick next
Speaker 1: year to move from twenty three to thirteen is insanity.
Speaker 1: I would say that has a thirty percent chance, thirty
Speaker 1: five percent chance of being a top five pick, and
Speaker 1: a seventy percent chance of being a top ten pick
Speaker 1: that you just traded away. I am flabbergasted by that.
Speaker 1: The Spurs just took a fellow who didn't wear a
Speaker 1: shirt the draft, did wear a sweet jacket. Though Carter Bryant,
Speaker 1: who I mean, is very spursy. He is he is
Speaker 1: the guy who fell the furthest if you will, compared
Speaker 1: to the consensus mock draft, so like by some people's metric,
Speaker 1: he you know, they just got the best value there.
Speaker 1: But Carter Bran out of Arizona is the final pick
Speaker 1: of the lottery. So the Spurs add Dylan Harper and
Speaker 1: they add Carter Bryant, who is I think the question
Speaker 1: mark on him is is he going to be a
Speaker 1: big time offensive player? Can he be a big time
Speaker 1: offensive player? But people like the measurables athleticism and they
Speaker 1: like the defense. And so now we sit on Oklahoma
Speaker 1: City and then we'll ra this up. But I can't
Speaker 1: I apologize. I can't get over what the Pelicans did.
Speaker 1: The producers are asking me who could Oklahoma City draft
Speaker 1: to help them repeat? I don't want I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to be dismissive. Whomever Oklahoma City drafts this year will
Speaker 1: not help them repeat next year. Like that, Oklahoma City
Speaker 1: is too good and too deep for anybody who's there
Speaker 1: at fifteen to be in their rotation next year. The
Speaker 1: rookie who will help them next year is their draft
Speaker 1: pick from last year. In topicch and so this is
Speaker 1: where I will admit my own ignorance. I don't know
Speaker 1: the international guys, but where Oklahoma City has a huge
Speaker 1: benefit is if there's a guy who you know there's
Speaker 1: questions when will he come over? Will he come over?
Speaker 1: But he's super talented. That's a guy Oklahoma City can
Speaker 1: pick and just stash like they they're not gonna have
Speaker 1: enough roster spots, especially because they didn't package anything to
Speaker 1: trade up. So Oklahoma City can do whatever they want.
Speaker 1: They can take project guys, they can do anything. And
Speaker 1: Presty's gonna be drafting guys who he thinks can help
Speaker 1: them in twenty twenty eight, not necessarily guys who's gonna
Speaker 1: be helping them in twenty twenty six, and will find
Speaker 1: out who that is in just a moment. I just
Speaker 1: and also, man, Atlanta's had a decent few days now,
Speaker 1: So hold on, what did you guys just put in
Speaker 1: the let me see this real quick. The oh, these
Speaker 1: are extra details on the Hornets trade. Okay, so the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine first rounder, we knew this is the
Speaker 1: least favorable of Cleveland, Utah and Minnesota. We knew that.
Speaker 1: And then Bobby Mark says, as part of the trade,
Speaker 1: Charlotte is acquiring Vasila Je Michic. Okay, I don't care
Speaker 1: about that. That's I mean, I appreciate you guys giving
Speaker 1: it to me. But I don't I don't have anything
Speaker 1: to add to that. The the the point that I
Speaker 1: was trying to make there, I'm trying to remember. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I apologize. Was on Oklahoma City. Oh no is Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I was talking about Atlanta. I think Atlanta is an
Speaker 1: interesting team next year now in this East. I've never
Speaker 1: been a huge Tray young guy, but he does have
Speaker 1: to his credit playoff experience. I do really like Jalen Johnson,
Speaker 1: who I think is going. I think Jalen Johnson's a
Speaker 1: good player. I think Jalen Johnson, you know, it hurt
Speaker 1: them last year that Jalen Johnson uh got injured. I
Speaker 1: think that he is somebody like that surprised me at
Speaker 1: how good he was two years ago and last year
Speaker 1: before he got hurt proved it wasn't a fluke. And
Speaker 1: so Trey's Tray is. It's not like Trey is not
Speaker 1: a useful player. He obviously is. He has some limitations,
Speaker 1: but Jalen Johnson's good. Resa Scha was the number one
Speaker 1: pick of the draft a year ago, so they obviously
Speaker 1: that's an important piece for them. Dyson Daniels is just
Speaker 1: definitively a really good player now like an awesome defensive
Speaker 1: player and a good player Chris STAPs in a contract
Speaker 1: year if he's healthy, I think could be good for them.
Speaker 1: And now you also have waiting for you in a year.
Speaker 1: And if you're a Hawks fan, you have this kind
Speaker 1: of fuck. You get to root for your team while
Speaker 1: also just rooting for either the Bucks or the Pelicans
Speaker 1: to stink, and you have this kind of double interest
Speaker 1: next season. And so I like these moves the Hawks
Speaker 1: have made. I gotta give you know, credit where it's due.
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, I've got to think that
Speaker 1: who's picking sorry, I had it up, who was picking twelve?
Speaker 1: I can't. I mean, maybe the Bulls turn. The Bulls
Speaker 1: are maybe I know the Spurs. I am certain the
Speaker 1: Spurs are like, oh my god, we were a pick
Speaker 1: away from being offered an unprotected Pelicans pick. Oh like
Speaker 1: the everyone sitting around Atlanta's draft position has to be like,
Speaker 1: how did we not get that phone call? I am
Speaker 1: I'm stunned the Pelicans would do that. And I mean
Speaker 1: that is that is a potentially instantly uh disqualifying move
Speaker 1: by Joe Dumars. It's just truly baffling. So I would
Speaker 1: like to adjust or not adjust, Paul, I'm doing an
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Speaker 1: no matter how good, mediocre or bad you are, you
Speaker 1: have two teams you get to just root against next
Speaker 1: season in the Bucks and the Pelicans, and just for
Speaker 1: one of them to be bad, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden that be how you get the kid out of
Speaker 1: BYU or somehow get the number one pick of the draft,
Speaker 1: like what an I thought we were gonna have like
Speaker 1: the Lakers, you know, trade Austin Reeves moving to the
Speaker 1: top ten. I thought the Pelican I'm sorry, the thunder
Speaker 1: who are picking right now, might package them stuff to
Speaker 1: move up. I thought there was a chance maybe that
Speaker 1: Paul George in the third pick went somewhere. We got
Speaker 1: none of that. Instead, we end up with the New
Speaker 1: Orleans Pelicans making a twenty three to thirteen trade that
Speaker 1: I'll simply never forget, and Oklahoma City, with the first
Speaker 1: pick outside of the lottery, takes Thomas Sorber Freshman Center
Speaker 1: out of Georgetown. I'll be honest that if you an
Speaker 1: hour ago, I said, could I see Oklahoma City if
Speaker 1: Malawoc starts dropping, moving up to get him, because in
Speaker 1: a couple of years Hartenstein's probably not there and they
Speaker 1: need a guy who can be chats back up, who's
Speaker 1: ready to play by then they end up getting Malawac.
Speaker 1: Thomas Sorber fills that role. So it does seem like
Speaker 1: we were kind of of like mind there all right.
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