1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, Episode two 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: of Dirt Daily. Like guice to production of I Heart Radio, 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: this is a podcast where we take a deep dive 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness and say, officially, off the top, 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: fuck the Coke Brothers and Coke Industries, Fuck Fox News, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: fuck the Open America movement. It's Tuesday. Yeah, yeah, that's true. 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: That's all I need to I need to get a 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: wider I need to spread at a wider target. Yeah, 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: they do Tuesday April. My name is Jack O'Brien. A 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: k Well, I've heard there was a secret brew of 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: delicious mountain dew. But you don't really care for soda, 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: do you? It tastes like this, a baja wish, a 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: sugary citrus finalist, a fizzy king of Do you in 14 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 1: bah hallujah, bah hallujah, bah hallujah, bah hallujah, bah hallu. 15 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah that's courtesy of Roman King, and I'm thrilled to 16 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: be joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles 17 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Crab How follow the rules put in place by a city? 18 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: Keep you help, Christine and dogs sickly, won't you be 19 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: stay home? All right? Thank you to Christie. Y'm a 20 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: gucci mane for that wonderful Paradise City a k. And 21 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seats 22 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: by returning guests. He is the brilliant, the hilarious, live 23 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: down to He is Mr Open Mike, you go hello, folks, 24 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: I am I am in awe of those uh those 25 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: those little song parodies. So not only the writing, but 26 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: you guys liveries, my goodness, I had I had no idea. Yeah, 27 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: but we're only doing ten percent out of the work. 28 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: It's the it's the listeners that come through with the nineties. 29 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 1: Truly beautiful. Yeah. I mean that came together after this 30 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: morning's episode, in which I revealed that I had cans 31 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: That's right, cans of Baha Blast. Did you get more? 32 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: I went back to Ralph's and it was totally sold out. 33 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: That was I have a picture I'll send you, just 34 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: like the empty the empty hole in the soda aisle 35 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: where the Baja Blast used to be. That's that's when 36 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: it all became real for you. That's when it became 37 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: real where there are other flavors of mountain do there? 38 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: Even though the Baja Blast was gone? Yeah? Everything it 39 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: was like a fully stocked shelf except for the Baha blast. 40 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: How much was there when you first copped, Like, was 41 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: it full or was there? Also, it's possible that you 42 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: may have gotten the last one. Yeah, I might have. 43 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll have to see somebody. Somebody tweeted 44 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: at me that there were uh they they had more 45 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: like at some location um out in Nevada. So I'm 46 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: gonna go explore that. Mike. How are you doing. I'm 47 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: doing I'm doing all right. I'm doing well. I'm like 48 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: doing close to good as good as you can be 49 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: when when stuff is falling apart in the world outside. 50 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: How have you been kind of uh finding equilibrium throughout 51 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: it all? Because I feel like that's the biggest challenge, 52 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: at least for me. It was like, Okay, I've accepted 53 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: the situation. Now what do I need to do to 54 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: kind of get there? You have, you have a schedule. 55 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: What's sort of helping you? Um? I started doing this 56 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: uh this daily fake radio show on Instagram lave that 57 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: nobody asked for. But it's but the purpose of it 58 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: is to help remind people what day it is and 59 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: U And it gives gives me a structure and it 60 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: helps me feel like I'm doing something for the world, 61 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: so that, um, you know, so I'm motivated to to 62 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: be a little bit productive and to be of some 63 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: sort of service. What's the radio show called quarantine drivetime Radio? 64 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: I love it? What time do you do it at that? 65 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: There's no I haven't gotten. I cannot commit because that 66 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: RPM drives one of the exact Sometimes it's tomorrow where 67 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: people are listening, and it doesn't matter like I have to. 68 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: I have to do it where what day it is 69 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: where I am? Yeah, absolutely, but yeah, like air horns 70 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: and the sound effects like other drivetime shows. I have 71 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: some obnoxious sounders. Am I able to? Yeah? I really do. Yeah, 72 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: what's the world? What's the what's the absolute most obscure 73 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: drop you have on that soundboard? I have? Um, this 74 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: character ran Hard from this video game Overwatch. He yells 75 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: hammer down, and I hit hammer down all the time 76 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 1: on Thursdays because Thursday is Thursday, So I hit hammer down. Okay, 77 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: I like that. All Right, we are going to get 78 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, 79 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're 80 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: talking about. Uh, we're gonna talk about there's six new 81 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: symptoms to COVID nine team. We're gonna look at those. 82 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna look at the White Houses, uh, new policy 83 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: of cutting back on Trump's exposure following his LSOL monologue. 84 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna look at whether or not he is responsible 85 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: for a spike and calls to poison control uh, and 86 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: whether that matters. Uh. We're gonna look at the lockdown 87 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: effects on boomers, because they are, after all, the most 88 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: important group of people, uh according to them. We're gonna 89 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: look at pent saying that Memorial Day could be a 90 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: good day to reopen and what Dr Burke's has to 91 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: say about that. We're gonna look at quarter fatigue. We're 92 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: gonna look at lip filler emergencies. Uh. And of course 93 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna look at Last Dance episode three and four. 94 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna recap that for you guys, for anybody who 95 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: didn't catch it, and uh opine for those who did. 96 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: But first, Mike, we like to task our guests, what 97 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: is something from your search history that is revealing about 98 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: who you are? The last thing I searched was Matt 99 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: Fraction's X men. I think that tells people a lot 100 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: about about me. What is that Matt Fraction is a 101 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: comic book author, mostly known for this for like reinventing 102 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: Hawkeye Um in a modern era. But he I've been 103 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 1: reading nothing but old X Men comics for the past 104 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: like two months, and so I just finished Matt Frashon's 105 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: X Men Run. Well, I'm in the last third of 106 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: it or whatever, but I searched it on Google because 107 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: I needed somebody to talk to about it, and nobody cares, 108 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: Like nobody people don't make old comic book content the 109 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: way that you think they would. So I've read this 110 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: thing on an island and I remain on an island 111 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: because because nobody cares. When did it come out? Oh? 112 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: I think maybe like two eight nine something like that. Okay, okay, 113 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: so like YouTube was not popping. Are you are you 114 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: reading them? Are you reading the physical books or do 115 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: you have like Marvel Unlimited or yeah? I got the 116 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: Marvel app. So I read everything on my iPad. I 117 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: really that app. I've grown to love even more and more. 118 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: I downloaded at the end of last year because I 119 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: was reading the Tanasie Coats Black Panther on there and 120 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: then I was like, wait, I forgot there's all this 121 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: these star Wars Expanded Universe books on their Plus like 122 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: old Jim Lee X Men that I grew up loving, 123 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: And it's really intuitive the way the app works, like 124 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: going from paint like panel to panel, because it's you'd 125 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: think it would over like I could watch it on 126 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: my I was reading comic books on my cell phone. 127 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way I'm gonna cram a 128 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: whole page on here, but they do. The interface is 129 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: really really good. Yeah, comic book comic bookstores are in 130 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: trouble because it's too easy to have every comic book 131 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: in my Yeah, in my backpack, you know, right exactly. 132 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: That sucks because that was that was like a fun 133 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: thing to do, right, Like it's like going to the 134 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: record store was like that was a really fun activity 135 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: that is just going to disappear. Has disappeared. There's you know, 136 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: comic book distribution stopped too, so there hasn't been any 137 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: new comics since like the last week of March. Wow. Yeah, 138 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: is there anything to like try and digitize it or 139 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: they just they're just putting everything on hold back when 140 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: they can start selling physical cops. They're putting everything on 141 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: hold because they had manufactured a certain amount of those 142 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: physical comics already and they don't want to have it 143 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: where like they sell everything digitally, and then when the 144 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: comic bookstores opened, there's this backlog of all these physical 145 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: books that want nobody wants, right right right, Yeah, that 146 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: makes sense Watching a lot of comic book YouTube guys, 147 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: I know a lot about the business. I don't know 148 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: about these things. What is there? Is there any comic 149 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: book YouTuber that you recommend that is like really good 150 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: at bringing people in. I like this guy, uh CBH 151 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: is comic book Harold. His name is Dave, but so 152 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: it's Harold, not like the name but like like silver Surface, 153 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: the Herald of Galactus, like that kind of herald he does. 154 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: He's really good uh reading orders on his website, which 155 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: has really helped me dig back through X Men history, 156 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: and he does these great like unpackings of issues, like 157 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: the new stuff that comes out and connecting it to 158 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: like that Hero or Villain's overall Marvel journey, which is 159 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: really really good. But nobody watches this stuff. So I 160 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: shouted out whenever I can, nice, what is What's something 161 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: you think is underrated? I think cash shoes are underrated. 162 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: I've learned that quarantine that you could put cashoes on 163 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: almost anything and make it better. I put cash shoes 164 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: and soup. Put cash shoes and ice cream. It works 165 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: to either way. There's no other really, there's no other 166 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: food like that waits and soup, like I can't shoes 167 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: soup or what do you mean? Well? Okay, so I 168 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: get like this lobster bisk from the supermarket and like 169 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: cook it and cook cashows into it and it gives it, 170 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: like uh, some more texture and it's real good and 171 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: everybody should try it. So are you grinding up the 172 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: as shoes like chopping them and then putting him in 173 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: or it just depends on how lazy I am in 174 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: that moment. I've done it all the ways you can 175 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: do it, and it every way works for me. Are 176 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: you a fan of cash you milk? Unfortunately, No, I'm 177 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: still I'm a little weirded out by the nut milks, 178 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: all of them. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I still kind 179 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: of my brain doesn't understand how that works, so it's 180 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: a little resistant. I am using almond creamer now, but 181 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: that's only because of my supermarket didn't have regular creamer, 182 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: so I tried the almond creamer and it's just as good. Yeah, 183 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, cash shows. I I used to 184 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: really as a kid, I was put off by cashews 185 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: just because of the shape. I was like, there's no 186 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: way that tastes good. It looks like a crawled up turd, 187 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: and I don't want anything to do with it. And then, 188 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: as I think it was just one of those moments, 189 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: like in college or something, I had nothing to eat 190 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: but a bag of cashews near me, and I was like, damn, 191 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: I really a good, finally roasted cashew. A wonderful experience. 192 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. Mix it in with the little pretzels. 193 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: You ever mix cash you and prets, same mouth, same time? 194 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: Haven't got that, but I plan to now Africa. Cash 195 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: shows make everything great. I love cash shows. I also 196 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,239 Speaker 1: love Todd Have you heard Todd glasses bit about cashhos. 197 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: He talks about just like he had this rich neighbor 198 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: dad who was always just like jingling cashows in his hand, 199 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: like that was just like his baller move, like tossing 200 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: him in his mouth, and it was like the most 201 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: baller thing he could ever imagine. It's so funny to 202 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: even just think now in the world we live in 203 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: the idea of seeing someone on the street holding a 204 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: bunch of loose nuts in their bare hand and just 205 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: eating him and like, dude, are you okay? Have those 206 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: been sterilized? Please help, Please don't do that. You're giving 207 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: me anxiety. I don't know where those have been. Yeah, 208 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: we're talking about things that are like really well timed, 209 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: like the Netflix reality shows where it's like love is 210 00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: Blind and uh, this reality show where like people or 211 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: horny but they can't touch each other, which is like 212 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: a perfect metaphor for quarantine. But they're also like things 213 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: that are uniquely poorly timed. The Dough Boys covered the 214 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: Pizza Hut product called dippers. That's like they just took 215 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: the took the sauce out of the pizza and now 216 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: everybody just like passes it around and like dips it 217 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: in the premise and it's just like so gross and 218 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: like so the opposite of And we also talked on 219 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: a previous episode about how KFC had an ad campaign 220 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: that was just launching that was like all about the 221 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: finger licking thing, finger like like deep throating their middle fingers. 222 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, don't get all the sauce off, licking 223 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: other people's fingers. It's just like, yo, that we could 224 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: not have been the pizza you're talking about, was that 225 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: the Marinara sauce came on the side and you were 226 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: basically giving slices of cheesebread. You would then have to 227 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: reincorporate this sauce into pizza. Hut does not. Like they 228 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: just feel like they need to. They need to Taco 229 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: Bell Eyes and KFC Eyes pizza repeatedly. They just always 230 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: need to come up with a new concept for pizza. 231 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: And it's like, no, just make good pizza. Pizzas already. 232 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: Isn't deconstructed pizza with an added level of like an 233 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: added uh step where you can incorporate germs. I'll tell you, 234 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you it is. Though as a parent, that's 235 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: that ship works. Man. When they when they put a 236 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: little like tricky marketing on it on on just separating 237 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: it and putting it in a different form, the kids 238 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: want it. They want it real bad. Oh for sure. 239 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: I mean even when you just I remember being so 240 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: fucked up by marketing, just hearing something that sounded different. 241 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: I was like, Mom, I need this now, and she's like, 242 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: well no, so you can wait till an adult, and 243 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: you can buy this ship yourself, cut to me now, 244 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: not money, but like I remember there's a you know, 245 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: there's a pizza chain called me cheese Um, and I 246 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 1: misheard it very for the one. The first time I 247 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: ever had to meet cheese pizza was at this kid's 248 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: house and he I overheard them calling it a meat 249 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: cheese pizza and it was just a plain cheese pizza 250 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: that came, but it had fucking incepted my mind, and 251 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: I was like this meat cheese man, I love beat cheese, 252 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this cheese pizza is great. And I 253 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: kept asking my mom, like we need to meat cheese pizza. 254 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: I gotta get the meat cheese, and she didn't know 255 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: what the funk I was talking about, and credit to her, 256 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: she did try and sounded so like like an immigrant mother, 257 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: like trying to like asking for meat cheese pizza, Like 258 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: what do you mean pepperoni sausage? We don't have that. 259 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: Then I finally saw the ship written down and I 260 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: was like, idiot, and I'm gonna just shut the funk 261 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: up about this, but it's true, like children, just something 262 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: fucking slightly even miss hearing it, and it sent me 263 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: on a fucking entire journey. Oh man, that's so heartbreaking. 264 00:14:54,640 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: Your mom like trying to cheese pizza. No, we would sists. Well, 265 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: we would have fights because she would be like, they 266 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: don't have it. I'm like, that's bullshit. I just talked 267 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: to DJ and he said that's the fucking place. It 268 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: wasn't the right thing. Yeah, but now and then when 269 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: when I finally figured out, I had to just I 270 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: couldn't admit it. You know what I meane, like you 271 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: never yeah, You're never gonna hear me say I sucked 272 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: my vote up. I'm just gonna be like, it turns 273 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: out they did away with it. Don't worry about it. 274 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: What is something? What is something you think is overrated? Uh? 275 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: The Tiger King I think is overrated? I think right, 276 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think we all watched it because we're 277 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: at home. But it's not really that good. It doesn't 278 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: need to be that many episodes. And I can't really 279 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: tell you anything that happened in it. I can tell 280 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: you like a lot of ship that was implied. I 281 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: can't tell you a single thing that actually happened the 282 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: retired thing. It would maybe just be like non sequiturs, like, 283 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: hey man, I remember that one time. I think he's 284 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: just shooting like a huge as shotgun at some tanner, right, 285 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: I think I remember that part and that's about it, 286 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: and then like just the music videos. But yeah, I 287 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: wonder if I wonder if like a lot of people's 288 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: like backlash or the evolution was just because so many 289 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: people talked about it like we're just like it was fine? 290 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: Is it that I'm trying to figure out, like where 291 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: how we would have responded six months ago to this, 292 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like if we would have 293 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: watched it as much? Because I remember when I saw 294 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: the trailer for it, this is when I was suspecting 295 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: that we were going to have to begin locking down 296 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: or like working from home would be the new normal. 297 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: For a second, I was like, oh shit, Okay, some 298 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: garbage to watch when I literally have all this time. 299 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: But I wonder if I would have I don't know. Yeah, 300 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: it's hard to say. I usually don't watch stuff like 301 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, I watched some stuff like that. I 302 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: like to watch, like the true crime stuff, but when 303 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: it's like the crime is actually solved or something, I 304 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: don't like the open ended one so much. Um So 305 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I to watch. A 306 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: matter of fact, when I first saw the trailer, I 307 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: was intending not to watch it, but then it was 308 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: kind of interesting and I didn't have anything else to do, right, 309 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: and so then I was like binge watching it before 310 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: I knew it. But like they announced a new episode 311 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, wait a minute, a new episode? 312 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: Why episode? And then you watch it and then you 313 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: get mad because the production values low because that actually 314 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: has like the subconscious effect of reminding you of how 315 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: not normal everything is. And that's why I'm like, I 316 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: wonder for me if I just came back around to 317 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: sort of like it just became a lightning rod for 318 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: my frustration of like where we're at, like not that 319 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: where we're at, but it's just like, yeah, man, then 320 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: there's that thing that everybody loved for fifteen minutes, and 321 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: this is it's just like emblematic of or like it 322 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: symbolizes kind of like what this is right now. I 323 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, And I think there's like some cultural 324 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: like people who who aren't familiar with that part of 325 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: the country who that's how they preferred to imagine that 326 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: part of the country as just like unaccountable like just 327 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: completely like make no sense to them, so they must 328 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: make no sense. And I think there's that like sort 329 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: of I don't know, I'll be interested to see, uh 330 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: in forty years how we look back on all these 331 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: docuseries and documentaries, because like when you look back at 332 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: like the things that were considered great documentaries of the past, 333 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: a lot of times like there's like really fucked up 334 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: things at the center of them. Like the Nuke of 335 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: the North was like super fucked up. The story behind 336 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: how that was made, the Disney documentary that won the 337 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: Academy Award, like they were also the it was the 338 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: documentary where they invented the idea of what are the 339 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: things that run off of a cliff like one after 340 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: each other Lemmings. Yeah, they invented that ship for the 341 00:18:54,840 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: documentary and through animals off a cliff to like basically um. 342 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: But then like even like high culture ship like in 343 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: Cold Blood, there's like all sorts of weird moral implications 344 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: of that. So I do wonder like in the future, 345 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: it seems like that's the way things go when with 346 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: regards to like nonfiction stuff, as we just like get 347 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: a better perspective on how fucked up the inherent like 348 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: conflict of it is. I do have to ask on 349 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: behalf of Jamie Open, Mike Eagle, did you watch the Jinks? 350 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: I did watch? Is Robert Durst innocent? No, there's no 351 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: way to get you on Wax. Had to get you 352 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: on Wax. Every time we bring this up, and Jamie 353 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: usually is one of our co hosts. She I mean, 354 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm presuming it's a bit. She's a dur She's always 355 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: she's a Durst. Truth, but it's always worth of law. 356 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: How does she defend the bathroom thing? No, she does it. 357 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: It's just it's a bit. But but it's so she's 358 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: so invested in it that it's amazing to treat her 359 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: as serious. But did you watch can Defend Bats? I 360 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: didn't watch that. That one is also a fucking weird 361 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: ass true crime thing too. That definitely resolves at the end, 362 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: but it's a It's another one where you're like, what 363 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: was going on? Like? Who are these people on Facebook 364 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: trying to figure out crimes? It was that Okay, did 365 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: the municipalities need to do more? I really like Evil Genius. 366 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: That was my I think that's my favorite one of 367 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: all time. You've seen evil genius. Yeah, that one, that one, 368 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: because those people were fucking weird and they did this 369 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: weird ass ship and then like there was no way 370 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: you could have expected all the weird ass turns the 371 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: weird ass ship took. Yeah. Yeah, I felt very satisfied 372 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: after watching that. Was there some pushback after that came out? 373 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: Like something to do with her? Was there? I feel 374 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: like I don't know, Yeah, I'm like I feel like 375 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: there's not a single documentary true crime anything where it's 376 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: like actually, but that one also like looked at a 377 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: story that I remember when I was a kids seeing 378 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: in the news and just like that capturing my imagination, 379 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: just being like what the fuck, Like there are people 380 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: out there who have like high tech collars that explode 381 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 1: your head and they can just like kidnap you. And 382 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: yeah that was wild. Uh finally, what is a myth? 383 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: What's something people think it's true you know to be false? Okay, 384 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: So I was a little worried and I still am 385 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: that this may have been the myth that I said 386 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: when I was on before, but I really couldn't think 387 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: of another one, So I hope this isn't the same 388 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: one I said, But there's a myth that that musicians 389 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: make more money now or at least when the world 390 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: was back intact, they made more money touring out any 391 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 1: day before, and that is not true. Is that based 392 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: off of like what what's the flawed logic behind the 393 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: myth that like somehow tickets are more expensive therefore you're 394 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: getting a bigger cut at the door or what, right, Like, 395 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: it's basically based on this this this kind of wishful 396 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: thinking almost that um, since there's no more money in 397 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: physical mut music, that people are making more money from 398 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: touring somehow, but it's not basically the same money. It's 399 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: just minus the revenue from the physical product from the sales, right. 400 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: So it's so it's not that that you make a 401 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: bunch more money touring, is it, like that's most of 402 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: your money now, right? Yeah? And that's why I like, Yeah, 403 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: the bands that are crushing it, you're like they're the 404 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: arena rock bands, like when you're when your smallest venue 405 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: is the Rose Bowl. Yeah, that you're doing exactly. It's 406 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: also curious. I mean, I would love to see some 407 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: kind of true crime thing about the ticket industry, ticket 408 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: those relations between like ticket Master, Live Nation, you know what, 409 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: how all that moves because that's yeah, it's a it's 410 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: also a very nebulous thing, and it's very abstract for 411 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: anyone in that side of the business to fully get 412 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: their head around how the money breaks down, where the 413 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: tickets are, and what the funk is going on. Yeah, man, 414 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: like there's like there's basically like rock Nation. Uh. This 415 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: Rock Nation is a partnership between you know, the old 416 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: Rockefeller people and Live Nation. They just own a bunch 417 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: of venues, which is a weird thing. That's a weird 418 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: thing that like they own a bunch of venues and um, 419 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: they're able to promote their artists that way and make 420 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: sure they have spaces to perform and well promoted events 421 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: and you know that sort of thing. You know, it's 422 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: when when you're really independent, all that ship is a 423 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: real drag, but you know it's it's I guess it's 424 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: just where um, just where most entertainment business is headed, right. 425 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: I Mean that's that's the thing that's illegal in the 426 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: film industry that they had to get rid of the 427 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: monopolies where the studios also owned the theaters because that 428 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: just is too much of a like vertically integrated supply 429 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: and demand chain that like you just they can just 430 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: control everything. They got overturned though, didn't it recently it's 431 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: going to about Netflix. Netflix bought a theater, I thought, 432 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: because it was like that had loosened a little bit. 433 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: And that's why they're trying to figure out if they 434 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: need to relitigate this, because they're like, are we just 435 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: gonna slide right back into that? Yeah? Because and am 436 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: AMC is dying right now, Like so there's gonna be 437 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: a huge void in net market, and I know, like 438 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: the you know, the production companies in the world, the 439 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: studios are going to want to step up and try 440 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: to fill it. Yeah. Yeahney's just gonna be theaters that 441 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: only showed Disney movies. That's what I'm thinking. Maybe that's 442 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: really how in Demolition Man, the Franchise Wars occurred. It's 443 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: like there's some kind of depression and like a lot 444 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: of the big companies had to sort of go into hibernation. 445 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: And then as they look to whatever the future was, 446 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: maybe saw a whole starting a corner new industries and 447 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: then boom, Taco bells on top. They won the franchise Wars. Yeah, 448 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: and then what that means for you know, music or 449 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: film too. Yeah, as if that's Demolition Man, but it 450 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: is Man's. I was watching. Uh, we're probably gonna get 451 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: to talking about the last dance, But I found out 452 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: in yesterday's episode that Dennis Robbins hair dying whole gambit 453 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: came from Wesley Snipes and Demolition Man. The first time 454 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: he died his hair was when Demolition Man came out 455 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: and Wesley Snipes had blonde hair. He died his hair blonde, 456 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: and then he liked the attention that he got from it, 457 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: so and then he got down and changed everything. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 458 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: It all goes back to Demolition Man, who've been saying 459 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: it for I always see in my mind, this was 460 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: like a thing I always think about because if you remember, 461 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: there's a Robert Townsend film called Meteor Man, and the 462 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: kids in that movie were rocking bleached afros in that movie, 463 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: and I always thought people were like, man, you know, 464 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: Wesley Snipes. I was always a meteor Man truth when 465 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: it comes to the throw thing from the early nineties, 466 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: because I'm like, no, man, meteor Man, the kids are rocking. 467 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: That's before Simon Phoenix was in San Angeles two and 468 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: I as I look meteor Man came out in on 469 00:25:54,920 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: August six, Demolition Man came out October eight, so there're 470 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: only two months. It was just the way. And I'm 471 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: sure some other like hair historian stylists, can go back 472 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: and actually say they're referencing another thing. But for me, 473 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: I always remember that first sort of real, truly mainstream 474 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: representation of that look came in metr Man. Alright, guys, 475 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. 476 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: And we're back, and the CDC has added six new 477 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: symptoms to the COVID nineteen list. Which which of these 478 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: are new? I guess, so we've got let's just go 479 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: through officially. Right in the beginning, the three main symptoms 480 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: that the CDC kept saying to look out for, we're fever, cough, 481 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: and shortness of breath or difficulty breathing. That was it. 482 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: And now as they you know, have more data and 483 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: they're seeing and a lot of people would say these 484 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: other things too, So the full list is now fever, cough, 485 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: shortness of breath, difficulty breathing, chill, repeated shaking with chills, 486 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: muscle pain, headache, sore throat, new loss of taste or smell. 487 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: So the reason they also did. This is because since 488 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: a lot obviously testing is the most important thing. Right now, 489 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: they in some places are saying you have to be 490 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: showing symptoms to get tested. They're saying, okay, well on 491 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: all of these are symptoms, now get these people tested, 492 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: Like this is this because I mean, yes, there's plenty 493 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: to suggest that these are symptoms, but to make it 494 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: narrow just to those because they saw some people did 495 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: have COVID and only had the loss of smell thing 496 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: going on. So now by expanding this, they're hoping to 497 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: get more people tested, which you know that's the right. 498 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: So what needs to happen? How do you know you 499 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: can't smell nothing if you're never even around other people? 500 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: How do you know that's smell? You aren't it if 501 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: you're if you're a parent of a of a baby, 502 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: then that that's how I learned that I can't smell ship. 503 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know that. That one seems so 504 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: specific and it's the only one I have, so I 505 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 1: feel like maybe I do have COVID nineteen. I don't know. 506 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you're like you're like those dudes and 507 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: Fury Road who are addicted to that chrome which you're 508 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: sniffing diapers. You're like, yeah, me alive? Maybe yeah, I 509 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: think it's really like. Another reason I said armpit is 510 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: because the moment I thought I had lost my smell, 511 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: like for some reason, my you know, like your pillow. 512 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: You can kind of get this saying you you if 513 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: you ever have your face in your pillow, there's detergent 514 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: whatever your head, you could smell at all. And it 515 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: didn't happen to me in bed. So I had to 516 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: immediately go to my armpit just to be like, is 517 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: there some remnant of funk? The nose is working? The 518 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: only time funk is ever positive, you know. Yeah, And 519 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm no hypochondriact. We have a problem reading symptoms because 520 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: I feel like I have them immediately everything when I'm 521 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: reading it. I don't have these things, but I feel 522 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: like I do. I feel like I have chills. I 523 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: feel fucking fine. Suddenly I got chills, chills with body paints. 524 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: So like like I did go on a run this morning. 525 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: It was really cold, it was chili, and it was aching. Huh. Alright, guys, well, 526 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about the continued fallout from what I think 527 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: is still Donald Trump's last press conference when he got 528 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: up there and started suggesting that people somehow inject UV 529 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: radiation or bleach into their body into their lungs to 530 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: kill clorox, or that doctors should do that, and like, 531 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: on the one hand, it was like, that's just another 532 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: stupid thing being said by the president, but this one 533 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: seemed to, for whatever reason, be one that like even 534 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: his followers, even his base like sort of wobbled a 535 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: little bit. They were like, wait, what the fun Yeah, 536 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: some people had to do the thing. Be like, no, 537 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: he meant to say that, So actually you look stupid 538 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: because you don't understand English is what he suggests. It's like, okay, please, 539 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: And I think again, people need to realize what most 540 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: people responding to isn't the fact that he's saying ship like, 541 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: oh man, we gotta check out the clorox remedies and 542 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: things and ship like that. It's that this man looks 543 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: like he's winging it on stage in the middle of 544 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: a pandemic. I could give a funk what he said. Specifically, 545 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: it does not inspire confidence in me to see the 546 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: commander in chief take the stage and then look around 547 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: be like, hey, I don't know, should we look into 548 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: this UV like stuff, how about maybe Clorox. What are 549 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: you doing in between these things? Dude, shut the funk 550 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: up unless you're gonna say something. And I think that's 551 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: why the White House is now trying to pivot a 552 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: bit to say, Okay, we need to clearly this is 553 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: fucking not working, um, and we want to come out 554 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: with just more focused briefings because it's funny, like the 555 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: New York Times and Washington Post kind of we're analyzing 556 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: how Trump speaks during these briefings, and they're just basically like, yeah, 557 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: he mostly used the time to like suck on his 558 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: own porcini dick during the fucking briefings, But like you 559 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: don't need to analyze that to see like what you're seeing. 560 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he does. It's a ton of self praise, 561 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: it's a lot of blaming other people, uh, and absolutely 562 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: zero empathy. That's like, yeah, somebody pointed out, like towards 563 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: the end of last week that like he just hasn't 564 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: said a single empathetic thing, and I had sort of 565 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: taken that for granted because he's clearly like just narcissistic 566 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: beyond the capability of feeling any sort of empathy for anything. 567 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: But it is wild to to imagine literally any other 568 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: president like and how like their their whole job would be, 569 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, making it seem like the government is empathizing 570 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: with them, like wow, while all the all these programs 571 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: are being put into place, but he is neither empathizing 572 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,959 Speaker 1: nor putting those programs into place. It seems like, well, 573 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: and you'd think that with now the death toll, uh 574 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: they're saying it's gonna well, very much likely surpassed the 575 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: death toll of the Vietnam War this week. That even then, 576 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, like a question like that, it's like we're 577 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: looking at a tremendous loss of life, Like we're going 578 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: to a top sixty thousand pretty soon, which is like 579 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: the fucking kick ass, we did a great job number 580 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: that Trump was talking about earlier, like maybe a month 581 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: and a half ago. But even in those moments, just 582 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: fucking just doesn't register. Tens of thousands of lives lost, 583 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: just nothing baby should play in China and like that 584 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: that's all they have. And what's interesting too, is there 585 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: there was this puff piece in political written today about 586 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: Hope Hicks, uh, you know, who left famously left the 587 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: White House, who was like the Trump whisper, and we 588 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: had reported how she had come back, and we're like, oh, 589 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: that means like they're having a hard time getting him 590 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: under control. The in this puff piece, a lot of 591 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: the excerpts just read like they're straight shit talking or 592 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: just it sounds like she completely is terrible at her job. Um, 593 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: I just want to read a couple of things because 594 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: some a lot of this is directly related to the 595 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: coronavirus response. It says for Hope Picks, it marked a 596 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: challenge on like any other, trying to develop a communication 597 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 1: strategy for the president to carry with a wartime footing 598 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: in an election year. The former White House Communications director 599 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: urged the President to act as a frontman for the coronavirus, 600 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: a leader who could offer coming messages, critical health information, 601 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: and important updates on the progress of the White House's 602 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: response efforts, instead of delegating those responsibilities to health officials 603 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: or the Vice President. Then, this says, along with Kushner, 604 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: Miller and Staff Secretary Derrek Lyons, Hicks urged the President 605 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: to give an Oval Office address to the nation to 606 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: convey the seriousness of the pandemic amid americans rising anxiety 607 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: and volatility in the stock market. That was the March 608 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: eleven speech that went so fucking bad because it was 609 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: poorly written, no one really vetted it, and he just 610 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: like they just let him do his thing again. This 611 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: is this is the work of Hoole Picks apparently. So 612 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean to be fair in any like with literally 613 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: any other president, that would be the right answer. It's 614 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: just yeah, but you've been working with this man long 615 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: enough to know you shouldn't go up there and do that. 616 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: You just had you just got called on in the 617 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: pitch meeting, and you didn't come with anything. You said. Yeah. 618 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: One of the one of the stories that seems like 619 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: it's getting a little bit of traction, uh, that we 620 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: wanted to fact check is the idea that Trump's Clarock 621 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: speech was responsible for a bunch of calls to poison 622 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: control because people were saying there there was a a 623 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: spike in caused a poison control. But there's been articles 624 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: fact checking in and it seems like you can't necessarily 625 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: tie the two because there's just been a overall spike 626 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: and caused a poison control because so many people are 627 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: like over disinfecting everything, like people are like dipping their 628 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: groceries and bleach and ship, so everyone's uh, there's just 629 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: more of that going on in general. So people like 630 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: dip ahoy and bleach exactly probably wouldn't be as bad 631 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: as like dipping an apple and that's what you don't 632 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: want to do. Yeah, a piece of pizza, it's the 633 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: it's the big dipper from Pizza hunt exactly, and bleach 634 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: pass around a bleach packet. I mean people have to. 635 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess this clearly shows that people aren't 636 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: reading enough. One of the first things I was thinking 637 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: was this kind of stuff, like, okay, ship, does this 638 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: mean like I have to wash my fucking like anything 639 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: maniacally when I bring it home to eat And a 640 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: lot of experts like transmission through food is very low risk, 641 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: but they still say, yeah, you can take precautions because 642 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: absolutely the bacteria can live on all of these things. 643 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: But like, it's hard because I think you see people 644 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: just do It's like they either do too little or 645 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: absolutely too much. In the case of like let me 646 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: just spray down my food with Clorox spray and then 647 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: forget that I'm actually going to ingest that later. Yeah, 648 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: our writer JM was putting out it's not necessarily his Like, 649 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it is bad that he's able to spread 650 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: as much misinformation as he is, but it's also and like, 651 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: this really surprising thing about this one is his just 652 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: susceptibility to believing misinformation is really scary, Like that this 653 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: is a very stupid thing that we can almost assume 654 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: that like cent of the population wouldn't believe, but we 655 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: can't assume that the president understands that. And people were 656 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, like where this belief came from. 657 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: Apparently just days before Trump made that statement, he got 658 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: a letter from Mark Grennan, who is the leader of 659 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: the Genesis to Church of Health and Healing, and he 660 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: told Trump that drinking his chosen brand of bleach that 661 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: he sells can kill of the pathogens in the body 662 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: and can rid the body of COVID nineteen And last 663 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: week the FDA had obtained federal injunction to stop him 664 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: from selling this ship. But yeah, they think that their 665 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: bleach can cure He's he's tried to get his bleach 666 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: used to cure anything from cancer to HIV to autism 667 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: to the common cold. And they're saying that Trump, his 668 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: interaction with him may have led him to this conclusion. 669 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: All we know is he got a letter a couple 670 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 1: of days before and that specific idea somehow got into 671 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: his head. Well, he famously does not listen to people. 672 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: And even when it came to UM, when they asked 673 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: him how he's going to go about reopening the country, like, 674 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: he kept saying that it was going to be partly 675 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: based on his instincts. Like he kept saying that he's 676 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: like he really feels like he's got, you know, the 677 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: power to decide things, which which he does no research whatsoever, 678 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,439 Speaker 1: So he doesn't listen to experts at all. Now we're 679 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: getting like the more literal comparisons to a cult where 680 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: the eater is saying straight up nonsense and people like mmmmmmm, yep, 681 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: inject the bleach. That's right, that's what he's saying. And 682 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: I trust him. He's waiting for a sign. He trusts 683 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: his gut. And as I watched like the Waco thing, 684 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: shout out to the website wan Cat, who have called 685 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: these like boomers who go out and demanding the lockdown 686 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: be ended. They call them the branch Covidians. That's hilarious 687 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: because they really are like looking at like you know, 688 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,919 Speaker 1: David Koresh is like, I'm waiting for a sign from 689 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: God before like I have moved on acting these things 690 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 1: like this and the Trump thing. I'm just saying like 691 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for my my guests to tell me something. 692 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,240 Speaker 1: And if people really look at that and say, yeah, 693 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with that over science, like yeah, we're 694 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: fully like we're fully fully there now, you know, like 695 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: not just sort of like the like rhetorically being like yeah, 696 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: the cult of Trump, Like no, we're now we're going 697 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: on things that are so I mean, so many things 698 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: are against what is are like, I don't know our 699 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: accepted reality, but when you go this far, it feels 700 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: like we're we're waiting for and for the next miracle 701 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: or spaceship or some ship to come down. Yeah, Miles, 702 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: you were researching boomers in general and their struggles with 703 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: core life. Yeah, there's been a lot of articles like 704 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: just kind of talking with boomers because I think as 705 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: these movements like the ending the lockdown thing, like people 706 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 1: are just trying to get an idea of how people 707 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: are feeling. Um. But in the Daily Beasts they were 708 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: raising a couple of interesting things. I mean, overall, it 709 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 1: seems like a lot of baby boomers are getting they've 710 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: hit they're trying to hit a wall in terms of 711 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: like how long they can like stop living normally. There's 712 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: like one woman that they interviewed was like, I'm just 713 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: zoom zoom zoom in all day like and it's not 714 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: good enough, Like I'd rather be there, like I used 715 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: to go here and go do that, and I don't 716 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: like this anymore. And you know, if this woman was 717 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: in her seventies, she was like a retired teacher, and 718 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: many younger past students were offering to help her with 719 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: groceries and things. She has a husband who's seventy eight, 720 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: and this is like another thing even talking to my 721 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: friends and anybody's seeming like there's this this resistance to 722 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: help from younger people. Um, and you know, credit to 723 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: everybody who's found a way to help their elderly relatives 724 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: or you know, neighbors out that helps save them their pride. 725 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: But the they go on to speak with an expert 726 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: like professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences and a researcher 727 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: on geriatric behavioral health and just saying that like isolation 728 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: and other research they've done in terms of like the 729 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: effects on the elderly social isolation could be really really bad. 730 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: And they just say from you know, past studies that 731 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: they've looked at, they said, they have this very very 732 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: intense need their social interactions quote um, they need it 733 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: beyond what they get via media such as touch to 734 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: feel they are in touch is very important. Quote. So 735 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: functional decline could be dramatic, meaning that their ability to 736 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,479 Speaker 1: perform their tasks to take care of themselves could begin 737 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 1: to decline. And it was interesting on some of these 738 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: interviews too, you'd see people be like, oh, I think 739 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: I have like an all sir, maybe, or I thought 740 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 1: it was just like like a acid reflux, but it's 741 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: gotten a lot worse and I probably should have gone 742 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: to the doctor, but I didn't know. I didn't know 743 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: if it was that bad a deal in the COVID thing. 744 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: And it's just and so like you're hearing too from 745 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: people not taking like it's having that. Yeah. Yeah, it's 746 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: a lot of this ship overlaps with depression and like 747 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: some of like the quarantine is just like enforced depression, 748 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: Like it's I had to like force myself to start 749 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: exercising because like you really can like more easily, I'd say, 750 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: fall into the behavioral patterns of just being like I mean, 751 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: I definitely did. I. I don't want to speak for 752 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: other people, but I definitely it was easier for me 753 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: to lapse into behavioral patterns that I've had with depression 754 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: then in other times when I can get out and 755 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: stuff outside of the house. It's been really interesting to 756 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: note in my own life how like you know, a 757 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: lot of my choices were based around like going outside, 758 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,919 Speaker 1: like you know, like like there's there's like there's only 759 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: like I feel like there's only like a tenth of 760 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: my wardrobe by access right now, because like all the 761 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: rest of it was built around like going places and 762 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: seeing people and wanting to make sure they hadn't seen 763 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: me in the same thing, and like you know, all 764 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: this this stuff that I wasn't even consciously thinking about 765 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: but was just like motivators of why I would make 766 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: certain decisions. And like you say, like it's it's really 767 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 1: easy to just fall into a pattern of like nothing matters, 768 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: which is which is a a very easily door for 769 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: depression to open and and and set in. Like I 770 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: had to, I had to, like another reason I started 771 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: doing that quarantine radio show was that I had to 772 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: decide that it was Monday one Monday, so that I 773 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: would stop drinking. I had to like put an end 774 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: to the weekend. Weekend, right, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. 775 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: The other things the other experts they were talking to, 776 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 1: they were saying, they were raising some alarming points. Now, granted, 777 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: a lot of the isolation research that's been done with 778 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: the elderly was done completely out of the context of 779 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 1: this quarantine, So they're not saying this is what's going 780 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: to happen, but they're saying, typically the effects of isolation 781 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: can be really, really, really terrifying than like a recent 782 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 1: study that they had put out in terms of looking 783 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: at elderly people who were going through chronic isolation, they said, 784 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: increase in the risk of death from cancer, increase in 785 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: the risk for heart disease at increase in stroke risk. 786 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things that go along, like 787 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: you know, with just you know, when you take out 788 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: that social dimension of like life, it's really a lot 789 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 1: of a lot of bad things can happen for older people. 790 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: So please check in on elderly friends and family. I 791 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: know a lot of people to have been saying their 792 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: parents have started watching more Fox News. People have not 793 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: even started watching Foxes because Fox says the ship that 794 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: they want to hear wow on Like, okay Boomer more 795 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: you okay Boomer. I have a report from my neighborhood. 796 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: There's a there's a um. The people who live across 797 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: the street from me are older and they have a 798 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: They have a party every Sunday. Party every Sunday. Like 799 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 1: the first time they did it during quarantine, like they 800 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: were super loud and like they were playing the music 801 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,240 Speaker 1: super loud, and fucking helicopters came. It was like hovering 802 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: over the house and ship. But it didn't stop them. 803 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: They still do it. They're still doing the week. It 804 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: is unbelievable. But it's also it's like I can tell 805 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: with them it has hit a certain point where like 806 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: they have they have to be around each other. They 807 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 1: have to like it's just I think what I think, 808 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: and it's kind of what you're getting next to It's 809 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: like what they lose when it comes to not being 810 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,760 Speaker 1: around each other. It's way more than you can quantify 811 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: with just like you know, productivity or you know what 812 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Like it just means so much more to 813 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: them because especially at a certain age, like if you're retired, 814 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: like traditionally to end your retirement life too, because this 815 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: was shut down your post work social life that like 816 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 1: retirees have like pretty busy schedules in that way, and 817 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: so I'm sure it's probably really jarring for you know, 818 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 1: a seventh person their seventies to be like, but I 819 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 1: have all these things to make my life go longer 820 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: because I'm not working right now and I need this stimulation. 821 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's why a lot of there's 822 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: been a lot of talk about this quarantine fatigue that 823 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: we've seen. Like, man, southern California, we some beaches we 824 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: absolutely disgraced ourselves this weekend. Shit in Orange County, like 825 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: Newport and Orange County it was popping. Um Ventura County 826 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 1: not so much because their rules at the beach was 827 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: sort of like you can come to the beach, but 828 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 1: you have to keep it moving. You can take a 829 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: stroll along the beach, don't swim, don't stop, don't sit, 830 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: just keep it moving. They would keep a moving order. 831 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: L A, They're like funk out of here, dude, Like 832 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: if we catch you bad, don't get near here. And yeah, 833 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 1: there's been like a study from researchers at the University 834 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: of Maryland showing that, like they've seen for the first 835 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: time they've been tracking sort of anonymous cell data, that 836 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: the social distancing effort has like across the country declined 837 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: by about three percent, like measurably um And we'll link 838 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: to the foothood notes to that study, because what they 839 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: do is sort of average out by state how many 840 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 1: trips someone might be taking, the average distance, and sort 841 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: of how that compares to over time. But I think 842 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: it's it's natural, right, I think at a certain point, Yeah, 843 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: people are trying to meet their own natural resistance to 844 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: this way of life. But I think it it just 845 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: says that we have to strengthen our resolve to stay 846 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: committed to this because it's truly like the outlooks can 847 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: be really bad if we don't. Yeah, And it's not 848 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: that they're over accounting the number of people who are 849 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: being killed by this disease, and in fact they are 850 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: probably undercounting because there's a newer port that uh, like 851 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: when you just look at the expected number of deaths 852 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: like just across history in the US and then this year, 853 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 1: like around the time that the pandemic started like deaths 854 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: went up by way more than what we're currently attributing 855 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: to COVID nineteen. It's it's like we we don't know 856 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: the full extent of of the you know, death and destruction, 857 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: and people are just and try as we might to 858 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 1: figure out the truth. I'm not sure that will happen 859 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 1: because again, and I bring the same point up, just 860 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: like in Puerto Rico with the hurricane, there many people died, 861 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 1: not directly from the hurricane itself, but the lack of 862 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: access to medical care and supplies and things like that, 863 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: and those are deaths caused by the hurricane. So but 864 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: to keep to keep it, keep it tidy, they want 865 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,240 Speaker 1: to suppress those figures. And I think that's really important 866 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,399 Speaker 1: because even Italy, a lot of doctors were saying, yes, 867 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 1: we had a certain amount of COVID deaths, but then 868 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: we also had these other day us that we're probably 869 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean, doctors are saying, like we would attribute to 870 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: COVID because it was based off of the strain on 871 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 1: the hospital and these people, they were preventable deaths, but 872 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 1: because we were overwhelmed by COVID patients, couldn't address those 873 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 1: people's needs in time. Etcetera, etcetera. All right, let's take 874 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: a quick break and when we come back, we'll talk 875 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:34,760 Speaker 1: plastic surgery. And we're back, And it's been a couple 876 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,240 Speaker 1: of weeks for celebrities of not being able to get 877 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: in the chair with their favorite plastic surgeon. And I 878 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: mean not just celebrities, are the other people who have 879 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 1: cosmetic adjustment dependency. Yeah, plastic surgeons are having to deal 880 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: with people who are like, come on, man, it just 881 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 1: a little lip injection. Man. There was a there. So 882 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: a lot of this was around this photo of Kylie Jenner, 883 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: who famously has a lot of aftermarket work done. Um, 884 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 1: so she was like leaving the store and her top 885 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,760 Speaker 1: lip was uncharacteristically thin. Um. Granted she wasn't wearing makeup 886 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: and things like that, but a lot of people were 887 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 1: also noticing, like some celebs like we're take selfie, someone 888 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: might comment like, oh, like your your face looks a 889 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 1: little different, and then the pick would get deleted because naturally, 890 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, like this ship, it can take up to 891 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: you every three to four months, or maybe you get 892 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: it annually or whatever. But a lot of the plastic 893 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: surge are saying, if you were meant to get an 894 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 1: up up keep uh you know, uh appointment to inject 895 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 1: more batu is um into your skull to keep your 896 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 1: wrinkles gone. Um that right now, things would be a 897 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: starting to sag a little bit. Things would be starting 898 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: to get droopy wrinkly, and for many, I think sort 899 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: of superficial or looks obsessed people, to see a mortal 900 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: human being stare back at them in the mirror might 901 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: be the last thing they need during all of this. 902 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 1: You know, I had no idea that this you were 903 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,879 Speaker 1: basically like subscribing to thick lips. I didn't I didn't 904 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: know that it was like that. I thought, I thought 905 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 1: you just did it. It's like a breasting plant, right, yeah. 906 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: I thought you just get it done one time and 907 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 1: then it is good for five or seven years or 908 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: something like. So, like, so what happens is the stuff 909 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: just getting metabolized into the body, Like where does it go? 910 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: Like I'm sure, I guess luckily, I'm very happy with 911 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 1: my lips. So I don't know, uh that like what 912 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 1: exactly happens. But I think it's like, yeah, this the 913 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: effect or the plumping effect goes down from whatever the 914 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 1: reaction is sort of they're injecting um, and so they 915 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: Jezebel like contacted a few different plastic surgeons, some in 916 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 1: like Los Angeles, and a lot of what they're saying 917 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: is mostly for the record. They're like, I I stopped 918 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: seeing people on Mart seventeen, like when we were shutting 919 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: the city down, I stopped. And there's tales of like, 920 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, some people being like I'm doing as much 921 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,439 Speaker 1: as I can me though it's not quite what people want, 922 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: like doing like you know, face time consultations and being like, Okay, 923 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna prescribe you this thing which is like a 924 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: chemical peel, but they can't do procedures, and so I 925 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: think a lot of people are getting desperate, and some 926 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: of the doctors are like, you know, and I'm you know, 927 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: there might be people who are actually making house calls, 928 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: which would be terribly unethical, considering that a lot of 929 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: these offices who had their ship together were like absolutely, 930 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm not doing any house calls. They're like, I'm sorry, 931 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 1: your face will recover after this, but you're just gonna 932 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 1: have to deal with this. I mean, it's interesting to 933 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: see like what part what like we're on the spectrum. 934 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: Some of these plastic surgeons were communicating to patients or clients. 935 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it reminds me of the barber situation here 936 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: in my part of town, too goes there are definitely 937 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: barbershops that are like secretly open here. Yeah, And one sense, 938 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: I certainly understand that things are shut down in order 939 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 1: to keep everybody healthy. On the other hand, I'm like, damn, like, 940 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: what do people do when when all they've ever done 941 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: to get income is cut hair and now they can't 942 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: have a shop. Like, I don't necessarily know that them 943 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,760 Speaker 1: being secretly open is the wrong way to go about 944 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: it either. I feel like, if somebody wants to take them, 945 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess even that gets bad too, 946 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,439 Speaker 1: because you're not just taking a risk for yourself, because 947 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 1: you can be you know, spreading it to other people 948 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 1: and all of that too. Um. I just I do 949 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: think about it from the hustlers mentality too, And and 950 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: I don't quite know that telling those people they can't 951 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: make any money for three months is like cool either, 952 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: you know when I think That's why I like, Yeah, 953 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 1: to really have a bar of like a fair and 954 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: balanced discussion on what we do is we have to 955 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 1: begin considering people like that in how we support them 956 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 1: when ship like this goes down. Rather than be like, 957 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 1: hey man, just you know your team, no sleep, get 958 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: on your grind, it's like, well, no, like we we 959 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 1: have to also be able to tell people, like, even 960 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: if your income might not be able to be verified 961 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: a certain way to get this kind of assistance, that 962 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 1: you still need to extend that assistance to other people, 963 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 1: because yeah, the option is to put other people at risk. 964 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's what you see in some states 965 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 1: like to like Georgia, you know, Killer Mike has like 966 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,320 Speaker 1: a and his wife owned like a chain of like 967 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 1: beauty salons and barbershops, and they're like, I don't care 968 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: what the governor says, Like we're not. We just can't 969 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 1: like we understand everyone's need to like you know, it 970 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: helps for your feeling of like self worth and you 971 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 1: feel good when you get your hair cut and things 972 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 1: like that. But on some level, it's like it's having 973 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 1: to grow up with that, you know, the the risk involved. Yeah, 974 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: I do feel I think barbershops are gonna be one 975 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: of the first ones to open up because people and 976 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: in fact, there's a the front page of Drudge the 977 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: Conservative like front page of the Internet has a headline. 978 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 1: The top headline is back to Life, and it's a 979 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,720 Speaker 1: picture from a barbershop. Like, I think that is something 980 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: that's like on people's minds. It's like, I just need 981 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: to get my hair cut. Yeah, it feels like I 982 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: don't know how many I've seen. I look through my 983 00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 1: Instagram stories and I've seen so many white guys panic 984 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: shave their head. I'm like, oh, I don't know what 985 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 1: you're doing, man, I guess this is how I'm dealing with. 986 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,839 Speaker 1: I guess it's okay. I don't know. I've always had 987 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: my I always cut my own hair, but I can 988 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 1: I know that feeling though, too, like when you just 989 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: sort of like you're looking at and you're like, fuck it, man, 990 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm getting out. I might look 991 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 1: the same when I come out. But there's also a 992 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: lot of great comedian There's like this comedian in England 993 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 1: who has been having his followers send him, uh photos 994 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 1: of their own their home haircuts and it's so funny, 995 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: like it's just it's actually, if you ever want to, 996 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, give someone a laugh, cut your own hair 997 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 1: and share it with the Internet. Because there's like photos 998 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,840 Speaker 1: of these guys wearing like like literal metal stainless steel 999 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 1: mixing bowls, trying to perfect the bowl cut and still 1000 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: it comes out fucked up and they're screaming and frustration. 1001 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: But we get it. We're all dealing with it. And 1002 00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: I think, even to Mike what you were saying, like, 1003 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 1: you know, we have to kind of confront our our 1004 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 1: tendencies of like always needing a flex or stunt or 1005 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: like look a certain way or appear a certain way too, 1006 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: because yeah, I'm like, I have like a rotation of 1007 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 1: like three T shirts and like three shorts and underwear 1008 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 1: that I'm like, I don't need to do anyone. I 1009 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 1: don't need to complicate this, like this is this is 1010 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: the rotation, and then thinking like I have all this 1011 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: extra ship too, which like I get is fun, and 1012 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: you like, I don't know, but I don't know this 1013 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,919 Speaker 1: even for celebrities not being able to get their lip 1014 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,320 Speaker 1: injections or whatever. I think on every level, some persons 1015 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 1: examining like what their outward life was like and how 1016 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: much that, you know, as it affects their day to 1017 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: day decision making. Alright, guys, we have come to the 1018 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 1: point in the episode where I am going to recap 1019 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 1: episode three and four of Last Dance the Michael Jordan 1020 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls documentary. Mike, have you watched any of it? 1021 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 1: The Michael Jordan's Show is the best show in all 1022 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: of television. It should win Oscar's Amy Grammys, an Tony's um, 1023 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,240 Speaker 1: he got yeah, did you watch episode three and four? So, 1024 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean my overall review is, uh, yeah, It's the 1025 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: best TV show I've ever seen. I I needed this 1026 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,839 Speaker 1: so bad. Oh my gosh, injected and just pour it 1027 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: directly into my veins. These two episodes had some great 1028 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 1: footage of Jordan being Jordan's We got the shot where 1029 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: he hits the shot in Game five over craigy Low 1030 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 1: to send him to the second round of the playoffs. Uh, 1031 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 1: and you get to like see it from different camera angles, 1032 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,800 Speaker 1: like even for somebody who's like pretty familiar with that shot, 1033 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: like seeing it from different camera angles, and then you 1034 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 1: know what, like hearing the crowd just like die in 1035 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,720 Speaker 1: the stadium was pretty cool. I feel like I've only 1036 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 1: seen the one main shot, which is from behind m 1037 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: J when he takes that shot, and then the face 1038 00:56:55,719 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 1: pump where he just it looks like he kicks craigy 1039 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: lill in the face, but it's just he just metaphorically 1040 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,359 Speaker 1: kicked the entire and then like short of u Can 1041 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,399 Speaker 1: is the Holy Spirit basically, and he's like is he's 1042 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 1: like telling he's like apparently telling the crowd to like 1043 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:21,959 Speaker 1: go to funk Home that Yeah you didn't know that? 1044 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 1: Oh my, um you also got one of you know, 1045 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: their first championship. Uh, you know the finals ninety one 1046 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: finals against Magic Johnson. It was pretty dope. Uh. And 1047 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: then because this is ostensibly about the bulls, we get 1048 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 1: this is episode three was the Robman episode, and Robin 1049 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 1: is just like twice as interesting as anybody else who's 1050 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: ever played basketball. That was one thing like if I 1051 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: like this was the first episode where you start to 1052 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: see the imprint of this being like Jordan's documentary, like 1053 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 1: him having complete creative control, like starts to come in 1054 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 1: because I feel like you could have gotten more Robman, 1055 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: Like there's really interesting footage of him like playing in 1056 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: his early days. Uh, there's footage of him like studying tape, 1057 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 1: which is interesting because you think of him as just 1058 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 1: like you know, this aloof guy who doesn't really give 1059 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 1: a fuck, and he's like this student of the game 1060 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 1: who like studies everyone's shot to see like how it 1061 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: uh like comes off the rim and studies their offensive 1062 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 1: games to figure out how to defend them. And I 1063 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 1: don't know, it feels like you leave some good stuff 1064 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 1: about Robman uh on the table because it like as 1065 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 1: Robman joins the Detroit Pistons, it like then weaves into 1066 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 1: like Jordan's battles with the Detroit Pistons. Like it's like 1067 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 1: it's almost like hearing a guy who's had a couple 1068 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,959 Speaker 1: of drinks, like telling a story and then being like, yeah, 1069 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 1: but back to me. But it's it's dope. It was 1070 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 1: a great episode there. Michael talked about how that made 1071 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 1: him start lifting weights more. Yeah, yeah, okay, I put 1072 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 1: the episode, but I just know that was like the 1073 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: moment he was like, oh fuck, dude, put on pounds 1074 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 1: off Sason. He went from to twenty uh. And there's 1075 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 1: like some like he looks wild eyed and like very 1076 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,439 Speaker 1: dangerous when he's lifting weights, Like he looks scary. Man, 1077 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 1: he's just completely on fire, just losing his mind, trying 1078 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 1: to get ready for that next season. C J Toldano, 1079 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 1: Megan Gail's husband, on Twitter. He added Ron Harper because 1080 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,959 Speaker 1: you know, Ron Harper played with them, and he also 1081 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,959 Speaker 1: played with Shaq and Kobe, and he was like, who wins? Ron, 1082 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 1: you have to tell us now? And Ron Harper actually responded, 1083 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: He's like, it's going to be the bulls bro. I'm sorry, 1084 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 1: yeah he said it. That's oh yeah, who had had 1085 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 1: to be? But it was It's just funny too. How 1086 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: much this I haven't watched. I haven't watched any of 1087 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 1: the series, but I'm going to because I absolutely love 1088 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: this era. But I think I'm having like weird watching anxiety, 1089 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,919 Speaker 1: where like when I hear something's really good, I'm like, oh, ship, 1090 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 1: all right, I gotta like prepare myself to like really 1091 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 1: watch this really good thing. What other than I'll be like, 1092 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 1: without thinking, watch absolute trash bullshit TV. But like in 1093 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 1: a way because I'm such a like trash like cockroach, 1094 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, like microbe subsists, subsisting on trash. When I 1095 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: hear of something good, it intimidates me. Um. But I 1096 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 1: love like everything about this team and the people like I. 1097 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 1: Dennis Robbins growth spurt in high school is one of 1098 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 1: my favorite stories of human growth I've ever heard in 1099 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 1: my life. Where he went from it but they don't 1100 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 1: even talk about me. They don't even talk about that 1101 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 1: this man went from five eight to six nine in 1102 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 1: one year as a sixteen year old or fifteen years old, 1103 01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Like the fuck did you talk about a little bit 1104 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,480 Speaker 1: more than to talk about Dennis Rodman's But yeah, they 1105 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: don't really get into it. I understand what I've been 1106 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 1: saying about being intimidated because like I'm similarly intimidated by 1107 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: Fiona Apple's album. I haven't been able to finish it 1108 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: because it's too fucking good, you know, and it like 1109 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: it starts to it's the same thing. But my one 1110 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 1: of my main takeaways from this Jordan documentary is like 1111 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 1: how much everybody who's featured in this is like equal 1112 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 1: parts brilliant and maniac Like all of them. They're like 1113 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 1: insane and absolutely brilliant at the same time. Like like 1114 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 1: the stuff where they show Dennis Rodman um like just 1115 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 1: talking basketball and talking about defensive schemes and it looks 1116 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 1: like he's seeing math in his head. But then like 1117 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: he's got to go to Vegas in the middle of 1118 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: the season. He just has to, like and to the 1119 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 1: point where Michael Jordan has to show up to his 1120 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 1: hotel room to get him with him out of bed. 1121 01:01:56,040 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 1: Carmen Electra unbelievable. Yeah, like that was I was so 1122 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 1: interesting that, Like so Miles, It's like after Pipping has 1123 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 1: sat out the first thirty five games of the season, 1124 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 1: he comes back and like Robbin, so part, like one 1125 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 1: version of it is just like he had been on 1126 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 1: good behavior for too long and needed to like go 1127 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 1: let let loose. But the other version that you get 1128 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: is that like he felt like he was the number 1129 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 1: two and he was like MJ's main guy, and then 1130 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: when Pipping came back, his like feelings of abandonment came in. 1131 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 1: It was like really interesting psychologically. And then he like 1132 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 1: goes to Vegas and it's like some dark ship man, 1133 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,320 Speaker 1: like you just see him like he's he's there, Like 1134 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 1: at one point he's just in a parking lot drinking 1135 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 1: a Miller light like outside just like hiding from the cameras, 1136 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 1: and then he gets on a Harley and just like 1137 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: tears ass away and it's just like damn man. And 1138 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: this is like while he's on break from the fucking 1139 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 1: from the bull is going on? Was insane. Yeah, yeah, 1140 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 1: it was in season while his teams trying to repeat, 1141 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 1: just gotta arrest him, you know, we got load load management. 1142 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 1: And then he comes back and he's like in great chance, 1143 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,640 Speaker 1: like he can still just like beat everybody in sprints 1144 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 1: and everything like that. That's one of the two details 1145 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 1: about Robin that I had just heard elsewhere that I 1146 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 1: wish they had included. Uh. One is that he would 1147 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 1: lift weights for hours after games, which is like insane, 1148 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 1: like players need to recover after games. His recovery was 1149 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 1: wayne lifting was weightlifting. That's why he was like stronger 1150 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 1: than everybody. Man. He was so athletic and so fucking strong. 1151 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 1: And then the other one is that he returned to 1152 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 1: Detroit after his rookie year and they were like, what 1153 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 1: what did you guys all do in the off season? 1154 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 1: And he was like I was wrestling bulls and castrating 1155 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: them to like uh to to stay in shape, and 1156 01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,440 Speaker 1: like he was like stronger from uh just just a 1157 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 1: wild because he's from Oklahoma, you know, he's from Middle 1158 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 1: scan country. Yeah look at him now, look at him. Now, 1159 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 1: he's who he might be have a hand in the 1160 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 1: new North Korean regime. Um. The the other episode is 1161 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 1: a Phil Jackson episode, but they're all kind of Phil 1162 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 1: Jackson episodes, but he gets I feel like he gets cooler. 1163 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,439 Speaker 1: In my estimation, I did not come into this thinking 1164 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,280 Speaker 1: he was very cool. Like his uh, his run with 1165 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 1: the Knicks was not super impressive. He was like falling 1166 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 1: asleep on the bench and ship and like, I don't know, 1167 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 1: some of his spirituality ships seemed like kind of hokey 1168 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 1: to me, But there's like he grew up next to 1169 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 1: a Native American reservation, like hung out with Native American 1170 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 1: kids growing up, and that's where his obsession with that 1171 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 1: kind of comes from. I thought it was just like 1172 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 1: that surface level hippie ship that we're people, but like 1173 01:04:55,640 --> 01:05:00,080 Speaker 1: he's got interesting psychological insights into Rodman and seems to 1174 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 1: be very empathetic. He seems like a pretty good dude. 1175 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 1: He's a hippie for real. Yeah, that was something from 1176 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,520 Speaker 1: the book that they didn't really dig into that much, 1177 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 1: but that he was like he wrote about having done 1178 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 1: acid like while he was a player in in a 1179 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: book after his career was over, and like that kept 1180 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 1: him blacklisted from coaching for a while. That's what Jerry 1181 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 1: Krause I thought hadn't actually a pretty decent uh documentary, Uh, 1182 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 1: decent couple episodes because like he's the only person who 1183 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 1: was willing to take a chance on Phil Jackson. And 1184 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 1: like even though he fired philk not Phil Collins, Doug Collins. 1185 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: Uh uh, he kept Phil Collins on for a couple 1186 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 1: of years actually after that, but uh, and and brought 1187 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 1: on Phil Jackson, like when Phil Jackson was just like 1188 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 1: kind of a nobody and Phil Collins had just took 1189 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 1: them to the Eastern Conference finals. But um, and then 1190 01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 1: there's a good scene of him dancing badly but just 1191 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 1: humiliating himself in front of the team. That was Yeah, 1192 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 1: Jordan's eyes continue to be distractingly sickly looking to me, 1193 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what's going on with him. Uh. 1194 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 1: And that's it somehow got worse from the first two episodes. Uh, 1195 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 1: or maybe I'm just like now paying more attention to it. 1196 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 1: That and Horace Grant. Seeing Horace Grant for the first 1197 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 1: time was surprising. Looks like he's about thirty nine and 1198 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: a half years old, and I cannot accept it at all. 1199 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 1: He looks it makes no sense at all. He and 1200 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 1: he looks like a different person because he's like lost 1201 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 1: all his muscle definition and so he Yeah, it is 1202 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 1: so uncanny because it's like, and now here's Horace Grant, 1203 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 1: who is just a different person who is the same 1204 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 1: age as the person last time you saw him, or 1205 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 1: like not not much older. It's just very weird. It 1206 01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 1: looks younger to me. I can't deal with it at all. Yeah. Yeah. 1207 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 1: Overall though, uh, five stars out of five, I'd say 1208 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 1: everybody should be watching us. Well, Mike, it's been a 1209 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 1: pleasure having you. Man. Where can people find you? And 1210 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 1: follow you? Twitter at Mike Underscore ego. And I'm really 1211 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,680 Speaker 1: pushing my Patreon right now because I can't make any 1212 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 1: money doing anything else. So it's patreon dot com, slash 1213 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 1: open Mike Eagle for people who want to support and 1214 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 1: get a bunch of extra secret access facts, music and 1215 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 1: all types of other stuff. And is there a tweet 1216 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 1: or some other work of social media you've been enjoying. Oh, 1217 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,800 Speaker 1: I like this one tweet that says having a baby 1218 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 1: is like the dark Souls of Tomagotchi. That's a lot 1219 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,800 Speaker 1: of references in one, but I really like that a 1220 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 1: lot that is from that's from Grimes, okay with the 1221 01:07:55,560 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 1: triple onra Yeah yeah, uhs where can people find you? 1222 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 1: And what's the tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, 1223 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 1: Miles of Gray also my other podcast for twenty Day Fiance. 1224 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:14,480 Speaker 1: We're talking about the trash that I subsist off of dance. Uh. 1225 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,360 Speaker 1: Let's see a couple of tweets that I like, if 1226 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: you actually excuse me. First one from Drew Anderson at 1227 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm Drew Anderson. He tweets these guys you're calling king 1228 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,560 Speaker 1: don't even have a bed frame. Next one from Amelia 1229 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 1: Atlie's All Day. It says, just got dumped and my 1230 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 1: roommate is trying to make me feel better by playing 1231 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:41,000 Speaker 1: cards with me, but she just keeps winning and whispering sorry. 1232 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:52,000 Speaker 1: And then another one because of the last dance. I 1233 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 1: knew this obviously has something to do with it. But 1234 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,600 Speaker 1: this is a video from past guest Um, Mama Do 1235 01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 1: and I who was showing this moment where I believe 1236 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,519 Speaker 1: it's what you're referencing, where Dennis Rodman is envisioning like 1237 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,640 Speaker 1: tactically what he does on the court. Um, and his 1238 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,400 Speaker 1: caption is this is how I give directions to tourists 1239 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 1: in New York. Click can go back this way, here, here, 1240 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:24,680 Speaker 1: that way, A very very confusing description of directions, So 1241 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:29,560 Speaker 1: appreciate that Twitter, I was enjoying. Rabbit Cohen tweeted the 1242 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,439 Speaker 1: Ferby's eyes around the front of the head, which implies 1243 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 1: that it's a predator's not kind of scared. Uh. You 1244 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter underscore O'Brien. You can find 1245 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: us on Twitter at daily zeitgeys were at d Daily 1246 01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,479 Speaker 1: Zygeis on Instagram. We have Facebook fan page and a website, 1247 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,160 Speaker 1: Daily zycheis dot com where we post our episodes and 1248 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 1: our footnotes where we link off to the information that 1249 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as the 1250 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,799 Speaker 1: song we out on, Well what's that going to be today? 1251 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:08,519 Speaker 1: Track from Shaghetto. I love great producer, great fantastic drummer. 1252 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,760 Speaker 1: I always knew his beats and productions, but until I 1253 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,840 Speaker 1: saw I think it was like a k XP or 1254 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,320 Speaker 1: w what's that station of the Seattle where they always 1255 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 1: do the really great live performance, Yeah k XP. When 1256 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: I saw him doing uh tracks from his No Better 1257 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,240 Speaker 1: Time Than Now album live and playing drums, I was like, 1258 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,120 Speaker 1: this man is in the fucking pocket. Um. So this 1259 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 1: is a track from that album called ring Leader. Uh, 1260 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 1: fantastic song, just great everything yes, check this alright, well, 1261 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeist does a production of I heart Radio. 1262 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,760 Speaker 1: For more podcasts for my heart Radio, visit the i 1263 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,840 Speaker 1: heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to 1264 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,560 Speaker 1: your favorite shows. That is going to do it for 1265 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 1: this morning. We'll be back this afternoon to tell you 1266 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,320 Speaker 1: what's trending. We'll talk to you guys then bye bye,