1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. 2 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. 3 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 3: On today's episode, we're going to talk about an update 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: on a story we brought you a few months ago 5 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 3: about a TikTok creator slash family influencer whose son drown 6 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: a Tesla lawsuit after a man driving a cyber truck 7 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: died in a fire that was so hot it caused 8 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 3: his bones to disintegrate, a freak accident among two dumb 9 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 3: friends that has now turned into murder charges, a woman 10 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 3: who is vegan against her will, and tattoo eyeliner regrets 11 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: all that and more. On today's episode, Let's start with 12 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: this TikTok influencer update. 13 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: So Emily Kaiser, who we've discussed on a couple of episodes. 14 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: She is the influencer whose son drowned a couple of 15 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: months ago, and I guess the last time we talked 16 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: about it was they were considering pressing felony child abuse 17 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: charges against her husband, but we still didn't really know 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: exactly what went down. 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: So she's finally. 20 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: Spoken out since the death, taking all the responsibility. She 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: had talked about how valuable pool fence would have been. 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: And a little bit more information is coming out about 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: what went down with the husband as well. 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so apparently the husband's telling of events was a 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: little bit different than what the investigation showed. He had 26 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: said that the son had been so he was home 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: with their newborn son as well as their toddler son, 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: while the mom was out with her friends, and he 29 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: was watching sports apparently, and had said he lost sight 30 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: of the sun for a few minutes. And here when 31 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: they looked at the cameras and everything, it appeared that 32 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: the sun was in the backyard for a total of 33 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: nine minutes unattended. Two minutes into him being in the 34 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 3: backyard outside, apparently he was playing on an inflatable toy 35 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: like a float or something like that slipped off it 36 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: unintentionally fell into the pool and was in the pool 37 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 3: for a total of seven minutes, trying to keep himself 38 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 3: above water, not knowing how to swim. And he didn't 39 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: die on the scene. He was brought to the hospital 40 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: because he was found unconscious, but it was too late 41 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: and he died. So apparently when they looked at the cameras, 42 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 3: they saw that he was outside way longer than the 43 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: dad thought, And when they checked the dad's phone and 44 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 3: saw what he was doing, it was he was sports betting. 45 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so the sports bet he did place 46 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: an hour before the incident went down, but he was 47 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: watching an NBA final game and I'm love see. 48 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: If the person was going to win, so he would win. Yeah, 49 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: so you know what I mean, Like he was trying 50 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: to see if, like his bet was going to make 51 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: him money. Well yeah, I mean, he could have just 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: been watching the game too out of interest and happened 53 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: to bet on it. But I love this article saying 54 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 3: he was watching his children. They're your fucking children. You're 55 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: not watching them. 56 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: You're at home with them, just as the mother would 57 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: be at home with them, right. 58 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: So that that's. 59 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: Just a total side note because that drives me crazy 60 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: when they're like, oh, is your husband babysitting your children? 61 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: There's no babysitting at your child. 62 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: The terminology is annoying. 63 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: But I mean, I guess they were just trying to 64 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: say that they were on his watch. 65 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was clearly distracted. And I think at 66 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: first he was saying it was only moments, not even minutes, 67 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: that the kid was gone, But as we now know, 68 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: it was almost ten full minutes that the kid was unattended, 69 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: and this unfortunately happened. I was saying this yesterday with 70 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: the Hershey Park episode the story weird to ten minutes 71 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: is an extremely long time for a child like that 72 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: to be unattended. 73 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, like it's being a dead horse 74 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: at this point, like obviously you shouldn't have a child 75 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: anywhere near a swimming pool that's not locked up, right, 76 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 3: And we know from her own she admitted it that 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: that she was responsible. 78 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I do. 79 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 3: I do like that part of her statement that she's 80 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: accepting blame for it, because I mean, while while it 81 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: is her fault, it's her fault for not having defence, 82 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: it's their fault, the family that owns the house, the 83 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: mom and the dad's fault. But honestly, like if they 84 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: had that, things would have turned out better. But ultimately her. 85 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: Husband's at fault. Well, he is the one that was being. 86 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: In fact, they were planning on filing charges against him 87 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 3: and they decided not to because they didn't think anything 88 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 3: would come of it. But he fell in the category 89 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: of being able to be charged with with that, with 90 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: neglect and putting the child in a dangerous situation that 91 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: leaded that led it to death. Now, one thing that 92 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: I've always thought about that with this case is like, 93 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: if this was a babysitter, like an actual babysitter that 94 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: they paid, and this happened, and she was playing on 95 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: her phone on TikTok and the same exact thing happened, 96 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 3: she would be getting in trouble. So so you have 97 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: to think, like, Okay, this is his kid, and obviously 98 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 3: he didn't want the kid to die, but like, it's 99 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: an offense that would get a person into trouble. 100 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's why they probably suggested the charges. 101 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: But maybe they think a jury's not going to see 102 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: it the same way and think that the punishment and 103 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: office losing the kid exactly. 104 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 105 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: I mean I had a lot more sympathy when I 106 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: thought that maybe he got distracted by the newborn, like 107 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: freaking out or something like that. Right, not that it 108 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: makes it more acceptable, but like you could understand it 109 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: a little better. But to know that he was just 110 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: watching basketball while this kid's drowning in the backyard, it's just, 111 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, accidents happened, and this was an accident. 112 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: At the end of the day. 113 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: But it's just it's hard to put yourself in an 114 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: accepting place with it. 115 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: So I do like that she's taking her part of 116 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: the blame on it as far as saying, and I 117 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: have some of the actual things that she has said, 118 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 3: she you know she wants. She did say that he 119 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 3: is our baby and our best friend, which I think 120 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: is interesting terminology because he is not longer living. 121 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: So but like I. 122 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: Said, however, you have to I've always said that about 123 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 3: like especially losing a kid. 124 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: However, you have to deal with that. 125 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: I like that she said I take full accountability and 126 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: I should have done more to protect him, and that's 127 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 3: that's definitely true. But I don't like that this statement 128 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: doesn't really have the husband's involvement in it, because it 129 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: almost seems like she's taking the blame all of it. 130 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: Well, she's going. 131 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: To take the blame because she's the face of their 132 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: family on social media. But I also be surprised if 133 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: they serve if their marriage survived this. I mean, in general, 134 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people say that marriages don't survive the 135 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: loss of a child, and especially when it's due to 136 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: the negligence of one parent. I just I would be 137 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: shocked if they made it through this. Seriously, Yeah, it is. 138 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: It's really hard to say because like, obviously I've never 139 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: been through anything like that, but I can't imagine being 140 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: through an event like that that I would ever trust. Like, listen, 141 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: do you think that she's ever going to be able 142 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: to leave that child with anyone again? Like, how could 143 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: you ever trust? Especially him? Now She's going to be like, oh, 144 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: I have to have my mom here to watch the 145 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: kid all the time because I don't trust you with 146 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: the kid, right. I would just never ever leave a 147 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: child alone with him to every single time she goes 148 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 3: to the door, she's going to be checking her phone 149 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: frantically to make sure everything's okay. I mean, like, that's 150 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: trauma that she dealt with, and I don't know how 151 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: she's going to get over that. But she just I 152 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 3: see that she's making a set up that her new 153 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: thing is going to be like how to handle grief. 154 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: That's going to be her new platform to all of 155 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 3: her followers. So she just wanted to like let them 156 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: know that she's coming back basically, which is fine whatever, 157 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: Like she could do whatever she wants to do. I 158 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: just think something interesting that she said in the statement 159 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: was seeing through this tragedy that she noticed that there 160 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: was a lack of boundaries online and protecting child's a 161 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: child privacy and moving forward, she's going to. 162 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: Work on that. 163 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, yeah, that's we say that all the time 164 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: about these like child children that are kind of getting 165 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: used in a way for their parents' social media. 166 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: Well, I think this would have been a story regardless 167 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: with his passing, but I think considered, oh, nobody would 168 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: have primarily no, like, there would have been at least 169 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: a like this person who's a notable influencer's son died, 170 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't have blown up to such proportions because 171 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: he was a main character on her I. 172 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: S were saying. 173 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: I thought you were saying, like just in general, if 174 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: I mean, because like kids drowned, this happens all the time, 175 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 3: and it would it would have been half a news story. 176 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: But she has she has a large following, so the 177 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: passing of her child, whether he was featured or not, 178 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: would have inevitably been on at least one news site 179 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: that it happened. But because he was such a main 180 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: player with her whole shtick, that's why it blew up 181 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: in the way it did because people know. I mean, 182 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: he was basically an influencer himself. 183 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: If you want to look at it and like it's 184 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: just weird because she's she's like a mom influencer and 185 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 3: that's what's going on behind. Like I would argue that 186 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: mommy bloggers are the worst fucking mothers on the planet. 187 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: I have not I've yet to see one that actually 188 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 3: is being a good bob. 189 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: I mean they're probably something, but. 190 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: Listen, I don't know any personally, but I would I 191 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: would say a similar thing because like I I do, 192 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: I half do the influencer thing because I hate I 193 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: hate it and do the bare minimum. But I can't 194 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: imagine if I was doing videos every single day like 195 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: a lot of these people are multiple a day. They're like, 196 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: I'm a mom and I live in it. Like you 197 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 3: just you can't. You can't do both and be present 198 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: for both. It's just not it's not possible. And like 199 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 3: having the camera in your kid's face for every one 200 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 3: of their moves, it's just like it's not natural. I 201 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: don't post a ton of pictures because my phone is 202 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: either not on my body or on or is in 203 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 3: my pocket. You know that, Like when I see my 204 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: kids and stuff, and they're doing stuff. I like to 205 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: like experience the moment myself and not behind a camera 206 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: because I want to show other people and having the 207 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: camera in their face all the time like that. It's 208 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: just like that there's and we know, like look at 209 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: like the Instagram and the podcast. You guys only see 210 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: us for a few hours a week, but there's more 211 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,359 Speaker 3: that go hours that go on behind. 212 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: The scenes of this. 213 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: Hours and hours, you know what I mean, just to 214 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: make Instagram posts, make social media posts, do this, make 215 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: the YouTube video, all this stuff, prep for it, look 216 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: for stories. 217 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: All this. 218 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: So like just knowing that as as a person that 219 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: kind of does this, it's just like the whole entire 220 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: day is scheduled around you doing videos of the kids. 221 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: Like anybody that's listening right now that has kids knows 222 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: that kids don't they don't cooperate, they don't want to 223 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 3: do it. Like remember the kids were talking to us 224 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: that they they said they wanted to do it. They 225 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: were they wanted to do like some kind of YouTube 226 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: videos to go along with our thing, and I was 227 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: just like no, no, because then once it becomes you, 228 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: it becomes a job for everyone that's around it's a 229 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 3: job and then you're not yourself and you. 230 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: You know all of it. 231 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: So I'm just I'm just like not a fan of it. 232 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 3: And you see, like like you almost see where this 233 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: can get you, and it's just it's just terrible. It's 234 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: terrible for them, like not thinking that they don't love 235 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: their kids, because I'm sure they sure they do. It's 236 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: just like it's not let the fame get to your 237 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: head in a way, and it's just like like you 238 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: like you fuck up everything because of it. 239 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: I just I don't know. It's not a fan of it. 240 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: It's not about loving them or not. It's just about 241 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: the distraction element, which we see in this case, it's 242 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: distract The phones are distracting to everyone. And it's just 243 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: like I have to make a conscious effort to like 244 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: put it out of my sight because it's just like 245 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: second nature to just pick it up fifty times and 246 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: check it. You see people doing you go out to 247 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: a restaurant, Like, go out to a restaurant, right and 248 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: just look around for a second at what you're looking at. 249 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: Like people aren't even talking to each other. 250 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: They're on their phones. 251 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: It's it's absolutely insane. Yeah, And like it's people don't 252 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: even realize they're doing it. This guy didn't even realize, 253 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: like when he told police. I honestly don't think he 254 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: was trying to cover his ass. He just did not 255 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: realize that, like for ten minutes he was zoned out 256 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: on his phone and the TV and not on the kid. 257 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I like to check it out. 258 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: I don't think he intentionally did it, which is probably 259 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: why they ended up dropping the charges. But like you 260 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: still need to like reel it back and be like, well, 261 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: what happened that this was allowed to go on? Yeah, Okay, 262 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: So a family issuing Tesla after their loved one got 263 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: in an accident in his cyber truck and burned alive 264 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: to the point where his bones disintegrated. 265 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: I feel like it's a little this is a little 266 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 2: bit of an exaggeration. Why Because if I. 267 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: Say to you someone's bones disintegrated, like you would think 268 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 3: it would be like a cremation, right, yeah, or just 269 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: that's not That's not what happened. This is this is 270 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: just like this is a fire death. This is certain 271 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: things that happened during the fire death. Now, one thing 272 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: I'll say is that I guess the family is saying, 273 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: and I don't know if this is true, but apparently 274 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: once the electricity cuts on these cars, and it might 275 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: not just be the Cyberchuck, it might be any Tesla. 276 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: Once the electricity cuts, you can't open the door from 277 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: the inside or the outside. If that's true, then this 278 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: lawsuit is completely valid. But is it true. I don't 279 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: know if it's true. I'm saying that that's just like 280 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: I just think that that's dumb, like that that would 281 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: even that there would be a situation. The problem is 282 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: with with a Tesla or electric vehicle is that they 283 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: have batteries and they burned at very high temperatures. And 284 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: we talked about that on multiple episodes here about how 285 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: you know my husband's a firefighter. We talked about it 286 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: with him, We talked about it with a Fascinelli from 287 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: New York. We did a whole episode about these lithianion 288 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: batteries and things and how they burn at higher temperatures 289 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: and they're just they're harder fires to put out in 290 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: general for firefighters. So of course, if a cyber truck 291 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: crashes and it catches on fire, it's going to burn 292 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: it a way higher temperature than a gasoline fire from 293 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 3: a regular car, and you know, you could cremate a 294 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: human body at one hundred or fourteen hundred degrees over 295 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: the course of two to three hours into ash basically, 296 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: or into like little crumbles of bone and stuff. They're 297 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: saying that this fire was five thousand degrees, So even 298 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: if he was in there for a short period of time, 299 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: he wasn't cremated because of the condition of the body. 300 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: That was explained by the medical examiner. But his bones 301 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: had effects of what you would see of a person 302 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: that died in a high temperature situation. So they he 303 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: appeared to have shrank in size because the soft tissues 304 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: start to shrivel up, the bones can fracture and cause 305 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: him to appear to be shorter. But so I guess 306 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: you could say whenever anybody dies in a fire. This 307 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: is actually what the forensic Friday that I talked about 308 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: last week was. When any it's it's it's unlike anything 309 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: you see in any other autopsy because as far as 310 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: traumatic wounds go, because the fire temperature causes very specific 311 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: looking things to the body, not only to the soft tissues, 312 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: but to the bones too, to the brain. My specific 313 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: article this week for forensic Friday was what happens if 314 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: a dead body is in a fire? What does what 315 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: does the brain look like? How do you tell the 316 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: difference between someone who fell and hit or their head 317 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 3: versus someone that just died in the fire and was 318 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: exposed to temperatures that high. 319 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: Right, So. 320 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: That's that's kind of a normal thing you would expect 321 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: to see in a death like this. The lawsuit, So 322 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: he gets in an accident, and I would assume didn't 323 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 3: see this in writing that because they were able to 324 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: get toxicology and they were able to determine the condition 325 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 3: of his bones, I would assume that the medical examiner 326 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: also determined that he died as a result of the 327 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: fire versus got in an accident and had some kind 328 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 3: of hand injury and then he was dead and then 329 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: his body burned. There's just a difference because they're saying 330 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: he burned alive, and you could tell that at autopsy 331 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: by looking at the trachea. You could see if they're 332 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: soot inside of there, to see if the person was 333 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 3: inhaling fire fumes basically, and also you could test if 334 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 3: they were able to get toxicology, they possibly could test 335 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 3: carbon monoxide levels as well, okay, So my. 336 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: Butt earlier was that they're arguing that the doors couldn't 337 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: be opened because the power was off on the car. 338 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: But I was gonna make the point of they just 339 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: kind of slipped in this article that he had also 340 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: been really drunk at the time he was driving. So 341 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: let's say you get in an accident and the cars 342 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 1: lock up, and there are safety mechanisms within the vehicle 343 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: to get out and kind of override those settings. But 344 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: what if you're too drunk that you can't figure it out, 345 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: and that's why you get trapped in the car. 346 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 3: And that's why this whole situation to me is like 347 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 3: Nolan Voyd, because the guy was drunk driving, and you know, 348 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: I have absolutely no tolerance for this. 349 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: Now his lawyer. 350 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: Is stating that that's just because he had alcohol in 351 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 3: his system. Now I couldn't find his actual blood alcohol level, 352 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 3: and that is important because if he was the way 353 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: they worded it was that he had alcohol in his system. 354 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: But they're also going after the bar for overserving him. 355 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 3: So you can legally sanial you could legally have alcohol 356 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 3: in your system. So are they saying that the amount 357 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: of alcohol in his system was an illegal because like, 358 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: if the guy had a glass of wine, you're allowed 359 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: to do that. Your blood alcohol is low, you're allowed 360 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 3: to drive on that. Or was he like piss ass drunk? 361 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 3: I don't know because we don't have the levels. 362 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but how would they be able to go after 363 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: the bar for overserving him if his levels. 364 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 2: Were well, So that's that's what I'm saying. 365 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: So so you want to blame everybody except the person 366 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: that actually ingested the alcohol, Right, So this guy drives 367 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 3: piss ass drunk crashes and they're saying the lawyer is 368 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 3: basically saying, we acknowledge that he had alcohol in his system, 369 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 3: but that quote that shouldn't sign his death warrant. Well, 370 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: actually yes it should. And that's exactly what you do 371 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 3: when you get into the car when you're piss ass drunk, 372 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 3: like he. 373 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: Might he probably lud kill someone else if. 374 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't drunk driving, yes, And like that's why 375 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 3: I'm just like this kind of doesn't It doesn't. Like 376 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 3: the whole entire lawsuit to me is like Nolan void. Now, 377 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: this is a situation though that like a person that 378 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 3: was driving their kids to school that was totally sober 379 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 3: could crash and if they're trapped in the car, that's 380 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: that's a problem. That's a huge problem. Well yeah, I 381 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 3: don't know, like what the deal with that is. So 382 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 3: if I mean, this is the thing, like he if 383 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: this is true that you can't get out of the 384 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: car because the electricity is cut off, this guy's family's 385 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: gonna get a ton of money because of this lawsuit 386 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: for bringing awareness to it, and like like should they 387 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: shouldn't they whatever? But like I don't know, it's kind 388 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: of messed up to think that a person's family is 389 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: gonna make like all of this money because they're fair 390 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: family member was drunk driving and luckily they didn't hurt 391 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: anybody else. But like you really don't deserve it when 392 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: you're driving like that and putting yourself and others at risk. 393 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 3: I mean, what if he wasn't in a Tesla and 394 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: he died, then what You're just gonna just going to 395 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: see the bar then, right, So it's like it has 396 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: to be somebody else's fault. Like I don't I just 397 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 3: don't like that shit. I don't like I don't like 398 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: not taking self responsibility for things. So I'm just I'm curious, 399 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 3: Like you have a point, like if if the bar 400 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 3: is if they're saying he got overserved, then then right there, 401 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: that tells me that his alcohol level was was way 402 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: too high to be driving. 403 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: Because you would have nothing to go after the bar. 404 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: And otherwise, if you just had one glass, how do 405 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: you even know how one? 406 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: Like for me, one glass of. 407 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: Wine is a problem, but like for most people, it's 408 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: not especially a man, So it had to be somewhat 409 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 1: substantial otherwise how could they possibly go after it? 410 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 411 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: Shit, just it just makes me mad, Like it just 412 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: makes me mad. But it also, I mean, it is 413 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: concerning because because a lot of people have these I 414 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: don't know, Like I feel like, is this the first 415 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: time that a tesla has caught on fire like or 416 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: has lost electricity like that that a person would be 417 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: trapped inside Because. 418 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: They cited another accident that happened a couple months after this, 419 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: where college students had burned alive in cyber truck for 420 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: getting after getting an accent. But I don't know all 421 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: the details of that. And the car has been recalled 422 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: a couple of times, but most cars have, and I'm 423 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: not saying that the cyber truck didn't have this problem. 424 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm just saying we can't overlook the fact that he 425 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: was also drunk driving. 426 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: Could we also just make a side note too, Like 427 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: my car is not an electric car, and it's a 428 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, so it's not even really a new car. 429 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: The whole entire screen of my car. 430 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 3: Is electric, all of it, like up to including the 431 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 3: the temperature controls the suv, like the range of it, 432 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 3: turning off the eco. 433 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: Button, all that shit is electric. 434 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 3: So Gabe and I this has happened a couple of times, 435 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 3: like we were driving and recently this weekend, and the 436 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: whole entire thing went black and we touch it. It's 437 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: like a touchscreen. None of it works. So we're in 438 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: the car and like we can't reset it. We can't 439 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 3: do anything. We can't control the air conditioning, we can't 440 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 3: control anything of the height of the car, nothing like that, 441 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: none of it. It's the whole thing, And I'm just like, 442 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 3: what is the point of this? Like electricity things feil 443 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: like that, and then there's no manual backup, Like I 444 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 3: couldn't turn a knob reset it. We had to stop 445 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 3: the car, turn off the car for ten minutes, let 446 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: it reset, let it cool down. Whatever, turn it back on. Okay, 447 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 3: it's finally back on, and it's how particular does it work? 448 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 2: What progress is that? Like? You're just making my life harder. 449 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: It's so dumb. I can't stand it. 450 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: And Nick, if you're listening, because I know that you 451 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: repair my car, you know what I'm talking about. I 452 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: bitch about this all the time. I just can't stand 453 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 3: all of the electric shit. It drives me crazy. This 454 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 3: episode is brought to you by the Grosser Room. Guys, 455 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: since we were just talking about this fire death, I 456 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 3: really think you should check out our Forensic Friday from 457 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: last week that shows what these things look like at 458 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 3: autopsy and how the medical examiner whoever is performing the 459 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: autopsy can tell the difference between trauma that was just 460 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 3: caused by a fire versus actual trauma. So in this case, 461 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: it would be important to tell two because he was 462 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: in a car accident, so you might want to check 463 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 3: that out. And then this Forensic Friday, we're going to 464 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 3: be talking about dismembered body parts, so that'll be a 465 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: really interesting one, so tune in for that. 466 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: Head over to the Grossroom dot com now to sign 467 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: up for only five ninety nine for the month. 468 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about these more. This is the 469 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: stupidest thing I've ever heard of my life, if true. 470 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: Note because well, yeah, yeah, the details are a little 471 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: sus so. A thirty seven year old man and his 472 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: thirty four year old friend. I'm pointing that out because 473 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: they were a full grown adult. 474 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: Man, and it's totally like, I don't know, I don't 475 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 3: think some men just never grow up. 476 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 477 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: It's unacceptable. But they were wearing kevlar helmets and decided 478 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: it was a good idea to shoot each other in 479 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: the head with rifles, and then, of course one of 480 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: them died. 481 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 3: So they get a call and police show up, and 482 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 3: they said that the guy suffered a head injury and 483 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 3: it looked like that he had tried to kill himself. 484 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: That's what that's what they thought. So now I'm wondering 485 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 3: because I didn't see that in the article, Like if 486 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: they were each supposed to be wearing a kevlar helmet 487 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 3: and shooting each other to see if it worked, the 488 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 3: guy should have been wearing a helmet, right. 489 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and where will she is that what the other 490 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: guy told them, or that's what the investigators assumed. 491 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: I don't know because it wasn't really clear. But like, so, 492 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: kevlar is a synthetic material. We actually use it in pathology. 493 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: Our cut gloves are made of kevlar. So and and 494 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 3: other people I think, like in the industry of people 495 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: restaurants and stuff, like if you're using sharp knives, sometimes 496 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 3: people use a cut glove, right. I don't know if 497 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: like an actual I know you're probably supposed to, but 498 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 3: I I yeah, exactly, like if you actually know what 499 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: you're doing with the knives, I suppose. But for us, 500 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: it's it's it's really important because we're not necessarily worried 501 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 3: about getting cut. We're just worried about getting cut with 502 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 3: a knife that has hepatitis C on it. 503 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: That's that's why we wear them. 504 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: So they're these gloves that we wear underneath of our 505 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: rubber gloves while we're. 506 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 2: Doing an autopsy. 507 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: And I usually wear like a pair of well we 508 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 3: used to have some hospitals still have latex, the fitted 509 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: ones that surgees you. So we wear a pair of 510 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 3: those pair of kevlar gloves on top, and then a 511 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: pair of like nitrial gloves on top of those. So 512 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: and then this way throughout the autopsy if you cut 513 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: your gloves, which you inevitably will, you could just cut 514 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: change out the top layer of gloves and not have 515 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: to always change your gloves. So they also make bulletproof 516 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 3: fests out of this material because and and also the helmets, right, 517 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 3: it's not they're not bulletproof one hundred percent, though they're 518 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: they're like, they work really well a lot, let's say that, 519 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 3: but they're not one hundred percent. So with certain with 520 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: certain situations, with these helmets, it could prevent a bullet 521 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 3: from going through, but like not every situation, and certainly 522 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: probably not from a higher powered rifle at a closer range. 523 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 3: It's just like, really, it just sounds dumb and like 524 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 3: that that might not be Like, I just can't believe 525 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 3: that this is actually like was happening. Those are toxicology 526 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: on the dead guy and hopefully like he has something 527 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 3: in a system that would justify like why they were 528 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: thinking that this was a good idea. 529 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 2: I don't know. 530 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: I'm just really curious what went down the day of 531 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: They responded to the report of the guy getting shot 532 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: in the head and then they thought it was suicide. 533 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: So I'm like, is that what the friend told them 534 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: or what but then they must have this happened a 535 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and then the guy that is 536 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: the survivor of this situation got arrested for duy I 537 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: think the day before your birthday, and then he just 538 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: went in custody for this last Thursday. So what happened 539 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: in the meantime. It's just the details aren't really adding 540 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: up for me, and I refuse to believe that two 541 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: men in their mid thirties thought this was a good idea. Seriously, 542 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we could tell that some guys 543 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: are really stupid, and some people in general are really stupid, 544 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: But this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. 545 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: It really is. 546 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about this woman who was forced to 547 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: go vegan earlier this year, all. 548 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 3: Right, so this is kind of from not for her. 549 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: From a scientific standpoint, this is really cool. So you 550 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: can be exposed to this lone star tick, which is 551 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: in the United States, and it's in other countries as well, 552 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: but it's more in the South right now, but there 553 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: have been cases of increased cases of it going to 554 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: other states. 555 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: And usually when you think. 556 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: Of a tick bite or something, you think of lime disease, 557 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: where they where the tick is transmitting a bacteria into 558 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: your body, which is what your body. 559 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: Is reacting to. 560 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 3: And in this case, it's interesting because it's not a bacteria, 561 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: but it's an enzyme that's in their saliva called alpha girl, 562 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: which is a really really interesting name for this. But 563 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: what happens is your body reacts to it. Your body 564 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 3: sees that when you get the tick bite, and it's 565 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: like it's far and then it creates it. It goes 566 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: to attack it, and it creates antibodies. So next time 567 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 3: your body sees alpha girl, it attacks, right. Unfortunately, alpha 568 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 3: girl is present in meat, like red meat from all 569 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: animals or mammals that are non primates. Right, So if 570 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: you eat a hamburger, you eat a steak, or sometimes 571 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: even if you eat cheese, dairy anything, if you've had 572 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 3: a bite from this tick, your body like freaks out 573 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 3: and starts having hives and difficulty breathing and all these 574 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: sorts of weird reactions. 575 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: It sucks. 576 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: It's scary because you don't know you can't always prevent 577 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: getting a tick bite, right, but imagine having this reaction 578 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: to this enzyme and not being able to eat meat 579 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 3: or cheese anymore. Awful for people that want to eat 580 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: meat and cheese. It's awful. 581 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: Listen, the gluten was hard enough on me, so I 582 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: can't imagine having those two things cut out. It's like 583 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: all I have anywhere, I'm always saying, like a doul't spoke, 584 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: I don't drink. All I have is coffee my only vice, right, 585 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: And I felt that way with gluten too, because I'm like, 586 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: no better snack than a buttered Lyssio's roll, right, But 587 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: now I can't even have that. So I can't imagine 588 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: having cheese, which is the best thing ever steak also 589 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: the best thing ever for me taken away as well. 590 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: This would be devastating. 591 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: I could do without the meat, but the cheese would 592 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: would definitely be a no no. So this actually happened 593 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: to this woman. She was having like redness and on 594 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 3: her face, and at first she's Asian, so she blushed 595 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: it off. She brushed it off as Asian flushing, which 596 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 3: is what happens in It's not just Asian people, because 597 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 3: I used to get that too. There's a certain I 598 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: don't remember what it is, but it's like a certain 599 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 3: liver thing that you can't process alcohol the same, so 600 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 3: you can get like redness in your face when you 601 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 3: drink alcohol, so like if I have a sip of wine, 602 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: like my cheeks get like bright red. It actually happens 603 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 3: to gape too, so it happens to other people that 604 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 3: aren't of Asian descent. But she just brushed it off, 605 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 3: was like, oh, that's what it is. And then over 606 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: the course of the next couple of weeks she started 607 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: developing like it was definitely a problem. She had all 608 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: of these crazy hives all over her body and ten itching, 609 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 3: and they didn't know what it was, and they figured 610 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: out that she had been bit by this tick and 611 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 3: she has alpha girl syndrome. 612 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: That's what it Just it just. 613 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 3: Reminds me of something the kids say, because they're always 614 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: just like, oh, alpha beta whatever they're they're like weird 615 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: words and language are but but yeah, it's it's kind 616 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: of interesting. So I guess since we're seeing more of 617 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: these like creep up, especially to our area as well, 618 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: like we might be expecting to hear more cases of this, 619 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: And obviously, like some people have worse reactions than others, 620 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 3: so they believe that a lot of people actually have 621 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 3: been exposed to this and just maybe aren't having symptoms 622 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: as severe as this particular woman was. 623 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: Actually, I know somebody that claimed, like ten years ago 624 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: they had this problem and nobody believed her at all. 625 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: No, it's it's it's a real thing. It's and it's 626 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 3: really it's interesting, and you can get a blood you 627 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 3: could get blood work done to see if you've had it. 628 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: So it's good because a lot of times people are 629 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 3: having these unexplained like when you think of someone having 630 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: a full body of hives, it's just like they're having 631 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 3: an allergic reaction to something like something's happening, and sometimes 632 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 3: when doctors try to investigate it, they just can't figure 633 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: it out. So this is good because the way that 634 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 3: she figured it out actually was not because her doctor 635 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 3: tested her. It was because she had done an elimination 636 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: diet and as soon as she stopped eating meat and cheese, 637 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: it went away, and then when she reintroduced it back, 638 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 3: it came back. So it was pretty obvious that that 639 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 3: was what was causing her problems. 640 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: That's insane, It really is insane. 641 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So ten years ago, this chick decided to get 642 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: eyeliner tattooed on before her thirtieth birthday with hopes of 643 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: giving her eyes some more definition. She said a coworker 644 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: had got it done and the results look great, so 645 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: of course she goes and gets. 646 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: It done and it ends up being a disaster. 647 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so she was filming videos about how I guess 648 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 3: she was told that it was semi permanent and it 649 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 3: would last like three to five years, and now she's 650 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 3: going on year ten and it's still there. 651 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 2: It looks terrible. 652 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 3: We all know that black ink gets this like weird 653 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 3: bluish appearance over time and it blurs out and it 654 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 3: just you know, you see women all the time with this, 655 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 3: and you could see it from a mile away, and 656 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 3: then I imagine that it's even more annoying. I can 657 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 3: actually say this too, because I've had my eyebrows done 658 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 3: and it is like now that it's like pieces are 659 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 3: falling out and the color is changing weird. Now it's 660 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 3: like every day I have to fill in my eyebrows 661 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 3: when it would have just been better if I didn't 662 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 3: have it. And these women probably have to put black 663 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 3: eyeliner on top of this weird tattoo they have on 664 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 3: their eyelid to cover it. 665 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she's saying it basically when she doesn't have 666 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: makeup on. It basically just looks like she has day 667 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: old makeup on in the way it faded, which doesn't 668 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: look good. 669 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like tattoos fade. 670 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 3: Everyone knows that even the best tattoo artists, your tattoos 671 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 3: are gonna fade over time just because of what's happening 672 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 3: with the body. Because you have all of the tattoo 673 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 3: ink is stuck in these macrifages underneath of your skin, 674 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: which are the cells that are there to clean up 675 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 3: dirt and debris and bacteria, and they're constantly trying to 676 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 3: get rid of your tattoo, even though it usually will 677 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 3: never get rid of all of it, but it will 678 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 3: pull a lot of the ink out. 679 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: It'll just fade over time. 680 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: On top of that, you're getting older sun exposure areas 681 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: where you are rubbing your skin a lot, so like 682 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 3: your eyes, please, like you're especially if a woman that 683 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: wears makeup all the time, you're constantly scrubbing your eyes 684 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 3: to get mescara off. And it's just like a recipe 685 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 3: for disaster, all of it and just aging in general. 686 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 3: So any single person, because that's the thing with tattoo cosmetics, 687 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 3: Like everybody wants to get it when they're twenty years 688 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: old and they never think that they're going to be sixty. 689 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 3: And you know what I mean, like it's it's not 690 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 3: gonna look good, it's just not. 691 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: Did you also notice she said it took two two 692 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: hour sessions. Don't you feel like that's insanely. 693 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: Long for that? 694 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 3: I do, But I don't know what the procedure is 695 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 3: as far as being like that close to somebody's I 696 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,479 Speaker 3: don't know the whole I would I just wouldn't ever 697 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 3: do that on my eyes like that. No, I don't 698 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 3: think it looks it doesn't look good. I guess hard is. 699 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: It to put on eyeline or like you don't need 700 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: to wear eyeliner every day. 701 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 3: I feel like eyeliner is like a special like I 702 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: guess l air you could put on your eyes. I 703 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 3: guess the thing is is that I've always noticed when 704 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 3: somebody's had it and it's bad, right, But I guess 705 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 3: if somebody had it that I met that was good. 706 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 3: I wouldn't know unless they told me. So it's hard 707 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 3: to just suppose, but you definitely know when somebody has 708 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 3: it and it looks bad. Oh God, if they look 709 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 3: like Tammy fay Baker it's crazy. 710 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 2: I don't like that look of the eye liner underneath 711 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 2: of the water line. I think it just looks terrible 712 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 2: on everyone. 713 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 3: It's like it's like a Princess Diana thing, like it's 714 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 3: so eighties, like it just it just is a look, 715 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's a look that nobody 716 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 3: should be trying to go for. But now, okay, whatever, everybody, 717 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 3: like including myself, Dude, you do dumb shit. When you're younger, 718 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 3: you get tattoos and then you never think you're gonna 719 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 3: get old, and all of a sudden it looks bad. Well, 720 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 3: like the only option she has right now is laser, 721 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 3: and like she doesn't want to put a laser near 722 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 3: her eye like that, which I don't blame her. 723 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 724 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 3: I mean, you know what, I think that because I 725 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 3: know that certain procedures that get done with the laser, 726 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 3: they put like these like lead eye caps in your 727 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 3: eyes to protect your eyeballs. 728 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 2: If you're going to like a. 729 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 3: Legit physician that's doing it, that's using all of the 730 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 3: proper precautions and stuff, then I would consider it. But 731 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 3: otherwise I wouldn't go to like a normal laser tattoo place. 732 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 2: For that. 733 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even want to get like my eyelashes done 734 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 1: because I just feel like you could get infected. 735 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 2: And so I don't know. I don't know. 736 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 3: Man, My nail girl has her eyelashes done and they 737 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 3: look good, like I was looking at them, and I'm like, 738 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 3: I can't tell that they're fake, Like I couldn't see 739 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 3: anywhere of I never had the false eyelashes, And I 740 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 3: wouldn't want to have another procedure that like getting my 741 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 3: nails done where I have to sit there for two hours, 742 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 3: but they look pretty good. 743 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: You have to go like every two weeks or something. 744 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean they look good like I couldn't. 745 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 3: I couldn't see how they were stuck on unless she 746 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 3: had just gotten them done and they were fresh. 747 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, they're really making advancements with it. 748 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: All right, guys, we're gonna see you at crime Con 749 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: tomorrow at the kickoff party. If you're going. I don't 750 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: know if everyone's going to death, but will be there. 751 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: Everyone should be going. Yes, it's going to be. 752 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: Blocking out to all the people that are gonna be there. Yes, 753 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 1: we absolutely cannot wait. Crime Coon is so much fun. 754 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I know I am too. I'm really 755 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: looking forward to it. 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