1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load. Michael 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Vary Show is on the air. 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: Baseball legend Pete Rose has passed away. 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: Rose was one of the. 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: Greatest hitters in baseball history and holds a Major League 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: Baseball record for all time hits. But Pete Rose never 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: made it into the Baseball Hall of Fame because he 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: was banned for life for betting on games while manager. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: Of the Cincinnati Reds. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: Rose later admitted to betting on his own team's games, 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: but said he never threw a game and never bet 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: against his own team. Rose played to the majors for 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: twenty four years. 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: Pete Rose was eighty three years old. 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: And here comes it ain't attraction and they're on their feet. 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: Rose walking toward the play the most famous number fourteen 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: in the history of this game, and trying to make 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: history right here in the first Jenning tonight. He levels 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: about a couple of times. Shout Yickson. He fires roseway 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: down the. 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Class death number forty. 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: One ninety two, A live drive single into left center field, 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: a clean base enter man is Pandemoni. 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: I'm here at river Front Stadium. 25 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: A fire works exploding over a head the Cincinnati Dugout 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: has emptied. The applause continuous unobated. Rose, completely encircled by 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: his teammates at first base. Joe White an emotional scene 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: here at the ballpark. 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: I'm wont to be a base to baseball, he rose. 30 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: That wins. It's just not today, Rout. 31 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: You know, we're talking about the Longshorreman's Union, and we 32 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 4: talk about government, and we talk about bullies. Here's a 33 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: government bully story for you. The IRS goon squad. You 34 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 4: remember the name of Evan Gerskovich. Gerskovich. He and Paul 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: Wheelan and Vladimir Kara Mursa were held hostage by the Russians. 36 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 4: Last month, they were released from detention returned to the 37 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: United States. 38 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: Welcome home. 39 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: Been held in Russia as a hostage. 40 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: Welcome home. We're glad to have you here. 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 4: Well, just like January sixth, our government attacked them, imposing 42 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 4: fines and tax charges on them for failing to pay 43 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 4: while they were locked up. Washington Post reporter and former 44 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 4: hostage Jason Rizayan spent five hundred and forty four days 45 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: locked up in Iran as a hostage. He says, quote, 46 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 4: I got one of those bills from the IRS saying 47 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: you owe this much on this year. You owe this 48 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 4: much on this year because of failure to pay on time. 49 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: Here's the interest that's accrued. 50 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: I was being held hostage by the Iranians. 51 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: Credit NPR. 52 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 5: A few months after journalist Jason Rezaion returned to the 53 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 5: US after being wrongfully imprisoned in Iran for five hundred 54 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 5: and forty four days, he got a surprise in the mail. 55 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 6: Got one of those bills from the IRS saying you 56 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 6: owe this much on this year, and you owe this 57 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 6: much on this year because of failure to pay on time. 58 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: Here's the interests that's accrued. 59 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 5: The bill was for more than six thousand dollars, representing 60 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 5: late penalties and interest on taxes he couldn't file when 61 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 5: he was imprisoned. 62 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 6: The bills kept mounting. Once we got rid of some fees, 63 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 6: new ones would appear. 64 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 5: Eventually, his bills ballooned to twenty two thousand dollars. Resion 65 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 5: said the IRS told him they wanted to help, but 66 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 5: they didn't have the authority to just make it all 67 00:03:59,240 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 5: go away. 68 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 6: I don't look at this as the Irs out for 69 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 6: blood and treasure. 70 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: This is an oversight that nobody really thought about. 71 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 5: He eventually settled the dispute with the IRS, but says 72 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 5: the consequences of oversights like that go far beyond the financial. 73 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 6: Adding layers of bureaucratic red tape on top of what 74 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 6: you've just been through. It feels like a new series 75 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 6: of impediments when all you want to do is run. 76 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: You want to move forward. You want to make up 77 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: for the time that you've missed. 78 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 4: On the subject of Iran since we've been just talking 79 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: about it. Donald Trump Junior makes the point that you 80 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: know this foreign interference. I claim the Russians were trying 81 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 4: to help Trump. Hillary's still trying to peddle that. I 82 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 4: guess dumb people will still believe it. But there is 83 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 4: foreign interference in this election. There's no doubt about it. 84 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: Our own government has admitted it. People within the government 85 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 4: who do their jobs, not the Democrats. Iran hacked into 86 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: Trump's emails and handed that over to the Kamala Harris campaign. 87 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 4: You think they're not going to use that. Of course 88 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 4: they are. But Donald Trump Junior made a good point. 89 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: Iran trying to assassinate Donald Trump, Iran hacking into his computers. 90 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 4: That is actually perhaps the greatest endorsement of his father's campaign. 91 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 4: Trump takes lemons and makes lemonade. They shoot him in 92 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: the head. He becomes more popular. They try to kill 93 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: him again. He becomes more popular. They convict him thirty 94 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: four times. He becomes more popular. They assess a four 95 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: hundred and eighty nine million dollar Finally he becomes more popular. 96 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: They raid his house. He becomes more popular. Can you 97 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: imagine how frustrated they must be. 98 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: Charlie Brown just keep trying to kick that football and 99 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: Trump keeps pulling it away, and they fall on their 100 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: back one more time. 101 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 7: This is kind of getting old. I've had a lot 102 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 7: of time in the last few months where I'm have 103 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 7: to explain to my young children whyized Democrats are trying 104 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 7: to kill their grandfather. Now you've had to do that twice. 105 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 7: Then you have this, and then you have the hacking 106 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 7: where Iran, the world's leading state sponsor of terror, is 107 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 7: literally colluding with the Biden Harris administration to try to 108 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 7: give them information against their political enemies. Think about that. 109 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 7: I mean, I can't tell if it's terrible or if 110 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 7: it's perhaps the greatest endorsement of my father's campaign. Iran 111 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 7: does not want him to be president. Russia does not 112 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 7: want him to be president. Our enemies do not want 113 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 7: my father to be president because I understand that bringing 114 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 7: back strength and resolve to America is really bad for 115 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 7: their global ambitions. I mean, I can't think of a 116 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 7: better endorsement. 117 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 4: Rre rom what I've been trying to get to this 118 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 4: and I've been short on time. 119 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm just can wedget in right now. This is clip 120 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: five oh one. 121 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: This is the Trump campaign ad on. 122 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: On Kamala Harrison. 123 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: The reason is because it is making a big difference. 124 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 8: Kamala's supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners. 125 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 9: Surgery for prisoners, for prisoners, every transgender inmate in the 126 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 9: prison system would have access. 127 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: It's hard to believe, but it's true. Even the liberal 128 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: media was shocked. 129 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: Kamala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners and illegal aliens. 130 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 9: Every transgender inmate would have access. 131 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: Kamala's for they them. President Trump is for you. I'm 132 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump can improve this message. 133 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: When you advertise during an NFL game, you get a 134 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: different type of audience. Here's Charlemagne, the god who does 135 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 4: Urban Black national radio have been typically friendly toward Kamala 136 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: and listen to this. 137 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 10: I'll tell you what that and was running during the 138 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 10: football game this weekend claiming the vice president supports funding 139 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 10: gender transition surgeries for all president inmates and migrants in 140 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 10: the US. 141 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: That was nuts. That was I don't know if it 142 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: would say nuts, but that was crazy. That was funny. 143 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if it was the 144 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: backdrop of football, but when you hit an array. 145 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 10: To Saykammala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners. 146 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: That one line, Hell no, I don't want my tax 147 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: payer dollars going to that. Definitely say that she did. 148 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: That ad was effective. Common took a picture of the 149 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: transgender It was. 150 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 11: It was just what they were saying that it made 151 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 11: it seem like commalas support transgender sex changes in jail 152 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 11: with our money. 153 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: That's what That's what. That's what I'm saying that. 154 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 10: Yes, they said. It literally said, uh that Kammala supports 155 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 10: tax payer funded sex changes for prisoners, and it talks 156 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 10: about how you know, uh, she she supports funding gender 157 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 10: transition surgeries for all prison inmates and migrants in the 158 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 10: United States. 159 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: That ad was impactful, Like it was I'm not gonna lie. 160 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: I was like that because it was doring football. Yes, 161 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: I think it was doing because it was doing football, 162 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: the contrast of it. 163 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 11: Yes, But the last week they had the same thing 164 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 11: running on Tim Waltston said he likes campons and boys bathrooms. 165 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: I would not have paid that. 166 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 10: I don't think I would have paid that commercial no attention. 167 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: If it was any other time. But when you're. 168 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 10: Watching football and you just mind, you just what what 169 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 10: the hell? 170 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: In between being commercials they give you that. 171 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 9: We are going to supporters supporter you haven't been, and 172 00:08:58,960 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 9: I hadn't been. 173 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 4: A very very important issue that might seem only to 174 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 4: be pop culture, but it's going to turn out to 175 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 4: be much bigger than that. 176 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: It's explosive. 177 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 4: Is the case of Sean Combs, who I expect any 178 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 4: moment to suicide himself Epstein style. He is an influential singer, rapper, 179 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: music executive, cultural icon who held allegedly freak out parties 180 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: where powerful people would come and rapes would occur and 181 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: date rapes would occur. And one of the lawyers who's 182 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 4: bringing the civil case against him and has been into 183 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 4: this for quite some time, as Tony Busby, who's from Houston. 184 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: What is revealed out of this I suspect, could involve Obama, Oprah, 185 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: could potentially a lot of people. And as that trial 186 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: moves forward, Houston's own Tony Busby is in the center 187 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: of it. 188 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: He's our guest. 189 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: So you are involved in this P Diddy case for 190 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: people who for people who may not know who he 191 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 4: is as a cultural phenomenon, and he is that. 192 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: He's very well known. 193 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: He's very, very influential in many sectors. How would you 194 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: explain to people who p did he is or Sean 195 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: Puffy Combs or however you're going to refer to him. 196 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's hard, hard to figure out what to call him, 197 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 8: but his name Sean Combs. He's had a lot of 198 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 8: different imaginations of his name over the years, but he's 199 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 8: a He started out as a performer, a rap artist, 200 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 8: very popular in the nineties, I think it was early 201 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 8: ninety had a lot of hit songs, collaborated with a 202 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 8: lot of people, launched a lot of people's careers, people. 203 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: Like Justin bieber Ussher. You may remember what was the. 204 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 8: Biggie Biggy Smalls. Yeah, and then there was you may 205 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 8: remember the Big the controversy about East Coast Rap and 206 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 8: West Coast Rap. He was kind of the leader of 207 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 8: the East Coast rap and then he then he kind 208 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 8: of graduated into a producer, and then he had a 209 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 8: tequila company and then a clothing company, and you know, 210 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 8: at one point he was he was considered to be 211 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 8: a billionaire. I'm not sure if that's the case now, but. 212 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: We're about to find out. 213 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 8: All we we're gonna find out. 214 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: And over over the years. 215 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 8: You know, he he became known for these parties he 216 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 8: would throw, and he would throw parties uh in Manhattan, 217 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 8: uh out and also in the Hampton's, also in in 218 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 8: l A. And the party became this this thing that 219 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 8: everybody wanted to be invited to. It was like the 220 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 8: party to be invited to. People like you know, Leo 221 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 8: DiCaprio and Oprah and all these these so called celebrities. 222 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 8: Uh would would be at these parties, and apparently, you know, 223 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 8: at the somewhere around midnight or one o'clock, the party 224 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 8: would shift from just the kind of party that maybe 225 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 8: you and I might attend to something that became really sinister. 226 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 8: He apparently brought women and men from across the country 227 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 8: and paid them or coerced them for sex. And it 228 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 8: was you know, he's been indicted now of course in 229 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 8: New York, and he's in jail right now. They've denied 230 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 8: him bail twice. But I think we're just this is 231 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 8: just a tip of the iceberg. I mean, we began 232 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 8: signing up cases about three months ago on this, and 233 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 8: this morning I was told that we have one hundred 234 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 8: and one clients that have been vetted that have some 235 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 8: proof that can be pursued in court of being sexually 236 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 8: exploited by Sean Combs. And there's a lot of other 237 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 8: facets to this. You know, obviously, the companies that he 238 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 8: was engaged with were profiting off of this, you know, 239 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 8: this whole culture that he created. And then there's a 240 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 8: lot of other celebrities and people that were involved in this, 241 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 8: people that stood by and watched or in some cases 242 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 8: participated so this. You know, we remember the old Epstein 243 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 8: thing that's kind of still going on, and all the 244 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 8: various people that we always wondered who were involved with that. 245 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 8: I think this is going to be the same kind 246 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 8: of thing, but bigger. 247 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: I suspect you're right. 248 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: I suspect that this thing is going to be an 249 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 4: onion that keeps getting peeled further and further to reveal 250 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 4: deeper and deeper layers of celebrity and government, and it's 251 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 4: going to be interesting and disturbing to watch, but it 252 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 4: needs to come out. Your first client, I think, was 253 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 4: a woman in Houston who alleges she's a victim of 254 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 4: all of this. 255 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: Now that was that was there was. 256 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 8: There is a woman who is represented by another lawyer, 257 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 8: who had a press conference a couple of days back, 258 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 8: who complain or alleges that something happened. I think she's 259 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 8: talking about in the year two thousand. But but there's 260 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 8: been I think seven total cases filed against him at 261 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 8: this moment, but never never of the volume that that 262 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 8: he's about about to see. And I think one of 263 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 8: the one of the things that a lot of people 264 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 8: don't realize is that is that it's it's actually more 265 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 8: males than females who have been exploited in abuse by 266 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 8: by this whole thing that's going on. You know, that's 267 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 8: not that's not self evident. You know, that's a little 268 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 8: that's contrary to the rap culture. But the truth is is, 269 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 8: you know, the allegation is that he targeted young young men, 270 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 8: and you know they were just as targeted, if not 271 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 8: more targeted. Than than young women. 272 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 4: Uh when when you when you begin a case like this, 273 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: there are a lot of allegations, what is the logistical approach? 274 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: Because it strikes me that at some point you've got 275 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 4: to start to get your arms around this case. I 276 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 4: know that that when someone defends a case like this, 277 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: they'll claim that as you ask for more information, it's 278 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 4: a fishing expedition. But a lot of information you need 279 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 4: is in the possession of the defendant. And you have 280 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: the allegation of you know, maybe your client. Now you've 281 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 4: got you said, one hundred and one clients. You start 282 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: to see certain things that become patterns. What are the 283 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 4: what is the strategy to put together a case like 284 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 4: this at this point, Well. 285 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 8: I have the benefit, of course, of the FBI's work. 286 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 8: They've been investigating Seawancombs for over two years, and so 287 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 8: a lot of the evidence is in the possession of 288 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 8: the federal government right now. Specifically, what I'm really interested 289 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 8: in is the type of drugs that they seized and 290 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 8: also eventually the statements that they're going to take. 291 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: And I expect that. 292 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 8: There will be cooperating witnesses, hopefully bodyguards and the people 293 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 8: that rounded Seawan Combs because it was always surrounded by bodyguards, 294 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 8: and in fact, there's a lot of allegations that his 295 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 8: bodyguards participated. 296 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: In some of this conduct. 297 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 8: So they're facing criminal prosecution themselves. So I expect, you know, 298 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 8: they're obviously not the target. My hope is and my 299 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 8: expectation is that at some point they will begin to roll, 300 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 8: so I have that benefit for me. The hardest thing is, 301 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 8: you know, we've had twenty five hundred potential contact, whether 302 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 8: it be via the Internet or phone, of people who 303 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 8: have come forward to say, you know, I was a 304 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 8: victim or I have information. The administrative work there is 305 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 8: almost overwhelming, and we have sixty sixty or more people 306 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 8: vetting these people, collecting information, collecting pictures, collecting texts, that 307 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 8: sort of thing. That's the real challenge, and to make 308 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 8: sure that those people that we feel like they've been vetted, because. 309 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: You know, you know how this works. 310 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't go into this, you know, like, 311 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 8: you know, I'm not naive. I know that there's people 312 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 8: out there that are looking for a payday and are hoping, well, 313 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 8: I'll just say that this happened to me, or I 314 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 8: was at a party. So I'm going to say that's 315 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 8: happened to me. So we're trying to make sure that 316 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 8: on the one hand, we don't want to be cross 317 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 8: examining people to the extent that they feel like they're 318 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 8: not believed or they're not being treated with respect, because 319 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 8: you know, it takes a lot of courage for somebody 320 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 8: to step forward and to say this happened to me, 321 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 8: and you know, in the state of our society, I mean, 322 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 8: it would be the same for me, especially for a 323 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 8: male to step forward and say that's happened to me 324 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 8: as a male, but as a female too. 325 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: It's just hard. 326 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 8: Because because you know that they're going to be roundly attacked. 327 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 8: You know that Shawn Combs is going to have a 328 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 8: very high powered legal team and they're going to their 329 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 8: entire lives are going to be you know, investigated. So 330 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,239 Speaker 8: this is tough to step forward. So I don't want 331 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 8: to be part of that and traumatize them myself because 332 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 8: because I'm trying to make sure that I properly bet 333 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 8: these cases. On the other hand, I don't want to 334 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 8: be representing someone who's a fraud or somebody who's just 335 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 8: trying to get on what they think is going to 336 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 8: be a gravy train, because you know, one bad apple 337 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 8: spoil the whole barrel. 338 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 9: As far as i'm conn that top country, Michael Barry. 339 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: We think sweets tea, We don't socialists. 340 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 4: Cod Tony Busby, a high profile attorney, is our guest. 341 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 4: We're talking about his case against Sean Puffy Combs, p Diddy, 342 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 4: whatever the name. He has one hundred and one client 343 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 4: signed up right now with charges of some sort against 344 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 4: Seawan Combs. 345 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: Tony. Let's talk about the allegations themselves. 346 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: And I realized those range quite a bit, and you 347 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 4: mentioned a little bit about drugging folks, non consensual sex, 348 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 4: those sorts of things. Can you give us just a 349 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 4: range of what we're talking about? 350 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it ranges from rape, which is in 351 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 8: New York, violent sexual assaults, which which includes you know, 352 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 8: noncontential sex, rape, sexual abuse, which which would include sexual contact, 353 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 8: facilitated sex with a controlled substance, which is in my 354 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 8: view when as I review each of these cases is 355 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 8: kind of the overwhelming thing. There's always some sort of 356 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 8: drug involved. It looks like it's a date rape drug, 357 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 8: which is why I'm very very interested to know what 358 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 8: what the FBI sees because they obviously seized various drugs 359 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 8: that they found that his two residences. We know that 360 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 8: that some of these these clients who went to the 361 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 8: to the doctor after these events found drugs in their system, 362 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 8: including a drug that I wasn't familiar with. I'm trying 363 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 8: to get the name of it, but it's basically commonly 364 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 8: called trank. It's a horse tranquilizer, which is which is 365 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 8: a strange thing, but several, uh, several of these clients 366 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 8: had this drug in their system, which I'm told is uh, 367 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 8: they lay they lace other drugs with this drug. It 368 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 8: makes people feel lethargic and kind of lose all their inhibitions. 369 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 8: So these are the types of claims the kind of 370 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 8: you would you would typically expect and this kind of 371 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 8: behavior growping, uh, you know, videoing someone without the permission, 372 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 8: false imprisonment, sexual abuse of minors. There's a whole litany 373 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 8: of claims depending on the particular case, and these cases 374 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 8: will all be filed individually. Probably most of them will 375 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 8: be filed in New York, but some will be filed 376 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 8: in California. And each client will, you know, have his 377 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 8: or her own case with his or her own claims. 378 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 4: And when we talk about where they'll be filed in 379 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 4: which court we'll have jurisdiction. Are we talking primarily about 380 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 4: the location where this occurred? 381 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: How would that be determined? 382 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 8: Well, as you probably know, venue is typically either where 383 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 8: the act occurred or where the defendant resides. 384 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: So a lot of this conduct. 385 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 8: Occurred in New York, and of course Seawan Colmbs has 386 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 8: his prime in New York, although he may argue that 387 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 8: it's in California, but in any event, it's either in 388 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 8: New York or California. So that's the reason most of 389 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 8: these cases will be filed in New York or California. 390 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 8: The good news for these claimants is that both New 391 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 8: York and California have very liberal statue limitations, so that 392 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 8: you can capture conduct that happened more than twenty years ago. 393 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 4: What is that statute limitation? Is it specific? Is it 394 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: twenty five years? Is it lifetime? For these types of things? 395 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 8: In New York, it's essentially lifetime, as long as you 396 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 8: bring the claim by March of twenty twenty five. Of course, 397 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 8: there are other various limitations, probably too much to talk 398 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 8: about here, but essentially very generous, very liberal statue limitations 399 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 8: in California, and New York, which is why I expect 400 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 8: most of the cases to be filed in those two states. 401 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 8: Georgia as an example, which some of this conduct occurred 402 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 8: in Georgia, its statue limitations. 403 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: Is two years. 404 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 8: Texas has a statute for this type of conduct of 405 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 8: only five years. But New York you can capture conduct 406 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 8: that goes back thirty years. So it really depends on, 407 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 8: you know, if it happened in New York, or you 408 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 8: can sue Shawn Combs in New York because he's a 409 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 8: New York residence, then you can a resident, then you 410 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 8: can then you can bring a civil claim against him. 411 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: Tony Busby is our guest. 412 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 4: We're talking about his clients, his cases against Sean Combs. 413 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 4: Puffy p did he Obviously Sean Combs is in real 414 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: legal jeopardy from a criminal perspective. Presently, if something happened 415 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 4: to him, he epstein or he's epstein. If something happens 416 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 4: to him, he files bankruptcy. Because these cases are going 417 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 4: to be pouring in and he's going to be defending 418 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 4: himself and all of this. You hinted or alluded to 419 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: other folks who benefited from his behavior, who it sounded 420 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 4: like might be in your targets. 421 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about that. 422 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 8: Yeah, I've always you know, I've always when I started 423 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 8: taking these cases, I took them with an eye to 424 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 8: making sure that we capture, uh, everybody involved what I 425 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 8: call the silent accomplices or the the you know, the 426 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 8: enablers behind closed doors. There are a lot of different 427 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 8: people that were involved in this, that enabled this, that 428 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 8: sat by and watched it, watched it occur, that knew 429 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 8: about it, that did nothing to stop it. And then 430 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 8: there's corporate entities involved. You know, Shawn Combs made a 431 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 8: lot of money for a lot of different corporations, and uh, 432 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 8: you know, we're all learning about his conduct now, but 433 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 8: it was it was a secret that everyone knew about, 434 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 8: certainly in the entertainment industry. People knew what kind of things. 435 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: He was up to. 436 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 8: People knew that that, you know a lot of his 437 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 8: parties that are at a certain point in time that 438 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 8: if you didn't want to be involved in this kind 439 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 8: of conduct, you better leave. 440 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: He made it very clear. 441 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 8: I mean there's a there's a public recording of him 442 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 8: essentially saying as much from a balcony where he talked 443 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 8: about you know, at certain some point tonight, everybody needs 444 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 8: to leave that's not going to participate. And you know 445 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 8: the message was sent, but it wasn't a secret. It 446 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 8: was a secret to us. I didn't know about it, obviously, 447 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 8: but the entertainment industry knew about it, and a lot 448 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 8: of entertainment companies and individuals made a heck of a 449 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 8: lot of money because of this culture that he created, 450 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 8: and we're going to be looking towards them as well. 451 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 4: The Justin Bieber video, which I'm sure you've seen, is 452 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 4: very disturbing, not because he's Justin Bieber, but because at 453 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 4: the time he's I think fourteen, about to be fifteen, 454 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 4: and Shaan Combe says, we are in an undisclosed location. 455 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: And we're going to have the next forty eight hours. 456 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 4: You just be wild and you think about you know, 457 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: what kind of parent gives over their team. A minor 458 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 4: cannot consent to sex. That's why we call it statutory rate. 459 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 4: It just cannot happen except for in the rarest of 460 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 4: circumstances that they're close in age, and we don't want 461 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 4: adults to be having sex with children. And that's pure 462 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 4: and simple the case. Do you have any at this 463 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 4: point I'm sure you're going to be signing up more. 464 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 4: Do you have any clients who were underage at the 465 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 4: point of the allegate of the alleged activity. 466 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 8: Twenty four of the one hundred and one we're underage, 467 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 8: One was as young as nine years old. 468 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: Oh, Tony, can you hang with us? Yeah? Sure, Tony 469 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: Busby's our guest. Michael Berry, we think sweets tea. We 470 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: don't think socialist cool. 471 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 4: Tony Busby is our guest. He represents one hundred and 472 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 4: probably counting alleged victims of Sean Comb's p Diddy Puffy, 473 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 4: you know, the whole Tupac Biggie rivalry. 474 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: And if you don't just rest assured. 475 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 4: This pretends to be as big as the Epstein Clay 476 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 4: case in a case like this, Tony for a for 477 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 4: a plane you know you talked about I think twenty 478 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: four of the victims were under alleged victims were under 479 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 4: the age of eighteen. 480 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: They were miners at the time, and. 481 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 4: We were going to break I think you said, the 482 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 4: youngest being nine. What does the claim for a victim 483 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 4: like that look like? Is there a specific amount of 484 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 4: money you ask for? 485 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 8: Not not typically, I mean, I don't know It's kind 486 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 8: of like what is the value of human life? It's 487 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 8: something possible to put a number on it. I mean, 488 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 8: you obviously want to get as much as you can 489 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 8: for the client based on the circumstances. But I rarely 490 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 8: put a dollar amount in the pleading unless the court 491 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 8: requires me to, and kind of let the case work. 492 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: Itself through the system. 493 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 8: And when we get to a point where we know 494 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 8: all the facts and we know how you know, what 495 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 8: the impact is, then we try to sit down and 496 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 8: come up with a number that's doesn't shocked the conscience 497 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 8: when we obviously we're shooting high. I mean, that's what 498 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 8: I don't get paid. I get, you know, people hire 499 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 8: me to get money. Unfortunately, the civil justice system that's 500 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 8: all it can do. Only it only provides money damages. 501 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 8: But one thing to note about about these cases specifically, 502 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 8: twenty four of these people were miners at the time 503 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 8: this happened. 504 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: You know, you have. 505 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 8: Parents who who were just in awe and just starstruck 506 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 8: by Shawn Combs and who he was, especially back in 507 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 8: this timeframe when he was really big, back in the 508 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 8: two from two thousand to two thousand and fifteen twenty 509 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 8: twenty timeframe, he was. He was the guy if you will, 510 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 8: and parents, you know, would willingly hand their child over 511 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 8: to him. You know, you mentioned Justin Bieber as an example, 512 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 8: who was fourteen. We know Usher was i think twelve 513 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 8: or thirteen when he connected with Shawn Kahm. There's a 514 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 8: lot of a lot of children who were basically flown 515 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 8: and put into his care and he violated that trust 516 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 8: and you know a lot of there's some of the 517 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 8: quotes that that that we have, you know from some 518 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 8: of these these kids, you know, just completely ruined their lives. 519 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 8: You know, they had these huge dreams of being a star, 520 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 8: and he made all these promises. You know, it's the 521 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 8: same mo o. It's you know, I'm gonna you're gonna 522 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 8: get a record deal. You're gonna do this, You're gonna 523 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 8: be able to do this. But in order to do that, 524 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 8: you have to do this, and don't worry, it's everybody 525 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 8: does this. And then to loosen them up, you know, 526 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 8: give give kids drinks and drugs and and you know, 527 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 8: just essentially destroy their lives and then just when when 528 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 8: they're when he's finished with them, you know, threaten makes 529 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 8: threats against them against their family of retribution. If they 530 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 8: ever say anything about it. So that's kind of them, 531 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 8: and that's kind of how it went for for twenty 532 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 8: years according to these people. 533 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,719 Speaker 4: You you talk about the threats to silence people, and 534 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 4: that's some that's a theme that's actually been out there 535 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: for several years of these threats. Do you have folks 536 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 4: who alleged that the threats were ever acted upon, harm 537 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: was brought down on them as a result of talking, 538 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 4: because there have been people talking for a while. 539 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, they There have been several different individuals who I've 540 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 8: personally spoken to who who believed threats came down on them, 541 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 8: but can't prove it. Uh, you know, from from small 542 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 8: things like all four of their tires being slashed. 543 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: To you know, things like that, things that you know. 544 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 8: It's hard to prove who did that, who was responsible 545 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 8: for that, but you know threats, explicit threats being made 546 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 8: like keep your mouth shut, don't do this, don't do that, 547 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 8: and then and then you know, reminders of just this 548 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 8: kind of I guess you would call that petty, petty 549 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 8: type crime of people breaking you know, breaking a window 550 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 8: or slashing tires. 551 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: But I don't have anybody. 552 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 8: Who you know, was with the exception of one who 553 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 8: was who was, you know, physically beaten. I have one 554 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 8: client who who alleges that he was physically beaten and said, 555 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 8: you will be beat again if you ever talk about 556 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 8: any of the things that happened. So you know this 557 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 8: some of this, some of these claims are and that's why, 558 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 8: you know, you want to. 559 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: Say, I believe every victim. But on the other hand, some. 560 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 8: Of this conduct, it's so outrageous and you wonder, how 561 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 8: could this go on with so many people involved for 562 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 8: so long? And I think it I think it just 563 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 8: it just re emphasizes that, you know, Sean comes uh 564 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 8: in New York and l A was a very powerful person. 565 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 8: You know, he's he's hanging out with Oprah, and he's 566 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 8: hanging out with Leo DiCaprio, and he's hanging out with 567 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 8: all the politicians in New York and California, and uh, 568 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 8: you know, he makes that very clear, uh to these 569 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 8: people that you know, not just the threat of physical violence, 570 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 8: but you know, I'm black value and industry, You'll never 571 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 8: you'll never do anything in this industry. 572 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: And he has. 573 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 8: A lot of different ways to leverage silence. And so 574 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 8: the good news is the this law of silence or 575 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 8: this culture of silence obviously is now starting to crumble. 576 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 8: And I wouldn't be surprised if five hundred people show 577 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 8: up with legitimate, documented claims against him and his cohorts. 578 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently he blackballed a lot of people. 579 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 4: It's it's disturbing, you know, you talk about his power 580 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 4: or the perception of power, it's hard to measure that. 581 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 4: But he was able to make people a star. He 582 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 4: did have his own label. There were people that he 583 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: kind of brought up and made famous and personally benefited from. 584 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 4: It was really disturbing when you when someone asked, well, 585 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: why would you hand your precious child over to someone? 586 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: This is this? 587 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 4: You have to have suspicions that this could be happening. 588 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 4: I think that people make a deal with the devil 589 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 4: that this might make my child famous. And the pursuit 590 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 4: of fame and the fact that he has this star 591 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 4: dust on him makes people do very, very stupid things. 592 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 4: I think people trusted, Unfortunately, single moms trusted Jerry Sandusky 593 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 4: with their teenage boys and they end up they ended 594 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 4: up raped in a shower because of it. And that's 595 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 4: exactly what I think you're seeing here. 596 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 8: Thank you're right, and I can't imagine that the guilt 597 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 8: and shame they feel having done this, and certainly if 598 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 8: they had any suspicion whatsoever, that it's even worse. And 599 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 8: I mean, that'd be. 600 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: A hard pill to swallow. 601 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 4: Reminder of the presidential debate is sorry, vice presidential debate 602 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 4: is tonight. If you want to watch that, that is 603 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 4: primarily what we'll be talking about. During the first hour 604 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 4: of tomorrow night's show. We will hopefully be bringing you 605 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 4: the good news that jd Vance showed why he is 606 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 4: ready to be vice president and if needed president, should 607 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 4: something happen to the president, God forbid, and why Tim 608 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 4: Waltz aka Richard Simmons should not. We don't need tampon 609 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 4: Tim in the White House under any circumstances. 610 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: Prayers for the people of Israel. 611 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 4: They are under attack from the demons and devils in Iran. 612 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 4: We've got sympathizers of those demons and devils in this 613 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: country and we should root them out. We should not 614 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 4: allow them in positions of power. We should not allow 615 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 4: their candidate, Kamala Harris to be there. This is a 616 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 4: wake up call not just to Jews, but to every 617 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,239 Speaker 4: American that there are people who seek to kill us, 618 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 4: not just the Israelis, the Americans, and they're supporting Kamala Harris. 619 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: Never forget that. See you tomorrow.