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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: A precious teen girl in a vegetative state like a coma,

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Speaker 2: tortured relentlessly by a nurse, and lucky for me, it's

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Speaker 2: all caught on camera. I Meancy Grace, this is Crime Stories,

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Speaker 2: and I want to thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 3: The patient couldn't move, couldn't speak, couldn't defend herself, but

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Speaker 3: a camera caught it all. And now this home help

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Speaker 3: nurse is behind bars.

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Speaker 2: Home health my rear end talk about a felony defendant.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. Joining me an all star

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Speaker 2: panel to make sense of what we know tonight. But first,

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Speaker 2: before I even get into the facts, I want to

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Speaker 2: go out to a special guest joining us who's taking

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Speaker 2: time from solving crimes right now and answering calls. Chief

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Speaker 2: Douglas Gurkey joining a Saint Cloud Police Department in Florida. Chief,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. You know what, Chief,

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Speaker 2: do you ever get tired of the most vulnerable, the

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Speaker 2: most defenseless, the weakest people in our society getting prayed

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Speaker 2: upon and mistreated just for the fun of it? Do

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Speaker 2: you ever get exhausted and go home and say I

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Speaker 2: give up.

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Speaker 4: I quit you know, Nancy, I appreciate that, and I

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Speaker 4: appreciate you having me on the show. And you know,

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Speaker 4: every day we come to work every single day to

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Speaker 4: ensure that our community is not prayed on. And you know,

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Speaker 4: some of the things I've seen in my career almost

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Speaker 4: twenty five years is just it's shocking to see the

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Speaker 4: videos of what occurred in this case. Specifically, it reinvigors

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Speaker 4: our mission every single day to come out and again

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Speaker 4: protect those that are unable to protect themselves. And that's

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Speaker 4: exactly what happened in this case. But there was a

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Speaker 4: lot of things that came together to make this work.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I give a lot of credit to

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Speaker 4: our detectives, but I really give a lot of credit

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Speaker 4: to the family that actually had the cameras set up,

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Speaker 4: that recognized this, that came to law enforcement, and we

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Speaker 4: partnered with them to make sure that this person is

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Speaker 4: actually never able to harm another person.

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Speaker 2: One bad apple makes a whole bunch rotten.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So they're in every profession, Nancy, And you're one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent correct. You know, no matter what profession there is,

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Speaker 4: there's always going to be someone there that has to

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Speaker 4: be watched. I will tell you I'm a paramedic myself,

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Speaker 4: so I you know, the duty to do no harm.

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Speaker 4: The things that I saw here were absolutely despicable. But

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Speaker 4: I will tell you there's good people out there that

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Speaker 4: actually take their job seriously, and our job is to

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Speaker 4: find those that are not. I think this family knew

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Speaker 4: something was wrong, which is why they set the camera up.

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Speaker 4: And when they reviewed the cameras and what they saw,

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Speaker 4: they saw nosebleeds, They saw everything out of this poor victim. Again,

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Speaker 4: it's heartbreaking. I saw the mom last night. She came

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Speaker 4: in last night. I gave her a big hug. She

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Speaker 4: brought me some new video. Unfortunately, we're going to be

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Speaker 4: looking at those two. We're going back day by day

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Speaker 4: that she has video, and we're gonna actually look at

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Speaker 4: everything because there's potentially more charges coming against this person.

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Speaker 2: You know, chief two words, nail her, Nail her because

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Speaker 2: it's going to go on and on and on until

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Speaker 2: healthcare workers realize they will be held accountable if they're caught.

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Speaker 2: And also, I know it's not sexy. You're not like

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Speaker 2: stopping a gunfight or jumping in in the middle of

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Speaker 2: a bank robbery. You and your staff are going to

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Speaker 2: be going through minute by minute video where mostly nothing happens,

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Speaker 2: but then there's that moment. There's that moment, and it's

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Speaker 2: a felony. Okay, let's start at the beginning. Listen.

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Speaker 5: A mother in St. Cloud, Florida, hires around the clock

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Speaker 5: nursing care in her home to help care for her

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Speaker 5: teenage daughter. The eighteen year old is developmentally disabled, nonverbal,

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Speaker 5: quadriplegic with cerebral palsy and minimal vision. To cover the

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Speaker 5: twenty four to seven schedule, nurses work twelve hour shifts

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Speaker 5: seven am to seven pm and seven pm to seven am.

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Speaker 5: And there's Saint Cloud, Florida home. Different nurses are used

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Speaker 5: from two different services in the area to provide the

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Speaker 2: Boy, can I relate to that all star pane. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to go to doctor Kendall Crowns, but first to

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Speaker 2: Dave Mack, who is a tireless Crime Stories investigative reporter.

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Speaker 2: You know, Dave, you have been to our home, You

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Speaker 2: met my mom. That's exactly the setup that we have.

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Speaker 2: When I go to work, there's somebody with her. Whenever

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Speaker 2: I'm away, there is somebody with her. And I have

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Speaker 2: the greatest people that I know. I know them now,

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Speaker 2: I know their families, I know all about them, and

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Speaker 2: I trust them. I also have granny cams out the

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Speaker 2: yin Yang, so I can see I'm seeing right here.

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Speaker 2: I could see what is happening in my mom's room

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Speaker 2: right But you have to trust these people. Tell me

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Speaker 2: about this girl, this teen girl. She is in a

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Speaker 2: vegetative state. What happened.

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Speaker 6: We're not talking about an incident that happened that caused this.

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Speaker 6: She was born with a number of issues. She is

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Speaker 6: non communicative, she is a quadriplegic Jazz three with palsy,

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Speaker 6: round the clock care that her family has provided for her.

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Speaker 6: And they've got a great lengths to make sure that

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Speaker 6: work shifts from seven pm to seven am, seven am

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Speaker 6: nurse has been there every Friday, working the seven pm

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Speaker 6: to seven am Saturday morning shift for over a year.

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Speaker 2: Nancy, Oh my Stars, no wonder. Teve Gurky has a

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Speaker 2: lot of video. Over a year, this minion from hell

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Speaker 2: has been with this little girl, this teen girl, let

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Speaker 2: me go to doctor Kendall Crown's. Guys. Doctor Kendall Crowns

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Speaker 2: is the chief Medical Examiner Terrance County. That's Fort Worth, Texas.

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Speaker 2: Never a lack of business there. I like to say.

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Speaker 2: He is the esteemed lecturer at the Burnett School of

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Speaker 2: Medicine at TCU, and he has just launched a hit

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Speaker 2: podcast called Mayhem in the Morgue and I've listened to it,

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Speaker 2: and it is him describing very unique cases that he

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Speaker 2: has worked in the past. At the beginning, you couldn't

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Speaker 2: really tell what was going to happen with the CEOD

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Speaker 2: cause of death. And then he puts it together like

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Speaker 2: a Airculee Poirot in the end and it all makes sense.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing, Doctor Kndll Crowns. So that's a whole

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Speaker 2: other can of worms. Doctor Crowns, could you just tell

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Speaker 2: me what does all this mean? As I like to say,

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Speaker 2: I'm just a JD. You're the MD. Now, this teen

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Speaker 2: girl developed mentally disabled. She's nonverbal. I know what that means.

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Speaker 2: She can't speak. She's a quadriplegic with cerebral palsy and

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Speaker 2: minimal vision. Okay, what is that potpoery of ailments. What

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Speaker 7: So let's start with cerebral palsy. Cerebral palsy is a

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Speaker 7: condition in which there is essentially brain damage in the

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Speaker 7: individual does not function as well as as a normal

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Speaker 7: individual would. These people can have any level of consciousness,

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Speaker 7: any level of disability. But she is a quadriplegic. And

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Speaker 7: then she also has vision abdermellies, so she's minimally has

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Speaker 7: minimal vision, has minimal ability to speak, and cannot move.

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Speaker 7: So she's the perfect victim in these type of nursing

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Speaker 7: home or care home deaths in which the individual gets

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Speaker 7: frustrated or tired of caring for them and then takes

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Speaker 2: How do you get cerebral palsy?

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Speaker 7: Cerebral palsy can be actually caused in the birthing process

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Speaker 7: it can also occur as the birthing procedure has happen,

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Speaker 7: can occur after the birth, where there can be injuries

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know really exactly what you just said,

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Speaker 7: Correct, and it can also be associated with congenital abnormalities

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Speaker 2: Okay, translation born that way, got it? Okay. Does serebral

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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if lack of oxygen to the brain

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Speaker 8: It can?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Okay. The next thing, this ting girl is a quadriplegic.

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Speaker 7: Explain so because of the brain injury that she may

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Speaker 7: or a birth defect. Cerebral palsy the brain doesn't function right,

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Speaker 7: and it causes the limbs or the muscles to not

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Speaker 7: caused quadriplegia, which means all four of her limbs are

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Speaker 2: You know why I'm asking this, Chief gur Key, because

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Speaker 2: listeners and potentially a jury needs to understand. As painful

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Speaker 2: think about just then, while doctor Kimball Crown's was describing

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Speaker 2: how the lack of oxygen to this little girl's brain

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Speaker 2: have minimal vision. She has four limbs, but they don't work.

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Speaker 2: All I could think about is my son running free

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Speaker 2: For so long, this girl has never been able to move,

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Speaker 2: When her mother speaks to her, that's who the victim is.

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Speaker 2: And of all the people in the world, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you like me, have had many drug lords gonned down.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, boohoo, this girl is so defenseless, so innocent,

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Speaker 2: and yet she was, in my mind, ag assaulted. This

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Speaker 2: and she was tortured. I mean, it makes me want

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Speaker 2: to bring back the death penalty for ag assaults. Chief.

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Speaker 4: So let me tell you this is you know, to

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Speaker 4: put this in a better perspective, and I will tell

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Speaker 4: you when I saw some of the pictures, it broke

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Speaker 4: my heart because as law enforcement, it's very difficult for

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Speaker 4: us to really engage and really understand everything. Let me

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Speaker 4: tell you some of the things that we did see

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Speaker 4: aggressively shaking her head and with the respiratory equipment, she

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Speaker 4: had a bipath machine shaking her head around, which caused

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Speaker 4: scratches and potential nosebleeds, holding a washcloth over her mouth

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Speaker 4: for a prolonged period of time that appeared to obstructed

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Speaker 4: her airway. You can see her moving around, so obviously

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Speaker 4: the video is not releasable yet it's an active criminal case.

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Speaker 8: But some of these things of what really breaks.

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Speaker 4: My heart that there are horrible monsters in the world

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Speaker 4: like that that are out there. And I'll be honest

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Speaker 4: with you, people like that have a special place in Hell.

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Speaker 2: To be honest with you, do we have to wait

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Speaker 2: for her to die and go to Hell and let

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Speaker 2: Lucifer deal with her. Can't we do a little something now, cheaf,

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Speaker 2: You said that she used a bipat machine, Doctor Kiddle

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Speaker 2: Crown's what is that?

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Speaker 8: I did it.

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Speaker 2: One punitive hold on taithe punitive, Well, okay, Punitive in

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Speaker 2: So what did the little girl, the teen girl in

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Speaker 4: I have zero answers for that because I watched this

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Speaker 3: She was supposed to be a lifeline instead. Nurse Nia

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Speaker 3: Ayres is accused of tormenting the disabled teen, ripping tape

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Speaker 2: Oh my stars, she's actually smiling. The alleged purp is smiling.

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Speaker 6: Listen checking on her disabled daughter Saturday morning, the mother

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Speaker 2: Yes, of course, right there joining me is Ben Powers

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Speaker 2: There are subtle clues that if you are attuned to

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Speaker 9: Being Powers, yeah, I think the scratch is the least

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Speaker 2: Well, Binpowers, You're absolutely right. The scratches on her daughter's face, mild,

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Speaker 2: What's on the video?

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Speaker 6: Listen watching the surveillance video, the officer notes timed where

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Speaker 6: at no time is its standard procedure to tape the mouth.

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Speaker 2: Tape the mouth. She's okay, Chief Douglas Gurkey joining me,

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Speaker 2: Chief whoa okay? So the teen girl is already wearing

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Speaker 4: So again, that would be a procedure that they would

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Speaker 8: That this person is helpless.

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Speaker 4: She's not moving, she's getting spun around, her head's getting

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Speaker 2: Boy, I do I need a shrink. And luckily, doctor

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Speaker 2: Jeff Kloshewski is joining us. Forensic psychologist, author of Dark Sides,

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Speaker 2: Kalishwski forensic psychologist. Doctor Jeff, thank you for being with us. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I keep hearing about the healthcare work or translation felony defendant,

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Speaker 2: She looks like she's about seventeen years old. Long story short.

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Speaker 2: We keep hearing doctor Jeff that she looked enraged, angry

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Speaker 10: Doctor Jeff, Well, it's interesting because you know, I've had

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Speaker 10: Because sometimes in these cases that I've had, the healthcare

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Speaker 10: This is when we're talking about sort of systematic torture,

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Speaker 10: Now we're moving into these are sort of sadistic acts.

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Speaker 5: After watching Airs rip the tape off the mouth that

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Speaker 2: Is this woman I know about the victim. She's a quadriplegic.

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Speaker 2: You don't go from pre K to your doctoral degree. No, no, no,

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Speaker 6: She is a licensed practical nurse, got it in got

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Speaker 2: To become an LPN and correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 2: US to two years to do that. You've got to

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Speaker 2: have high school diploma, you've got to get into the program,

433
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Speaker 2: you have to complete the approximately two year program, you've

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Speaker 2: got to be licensed by the state, and you have

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Speaker 2: to pass an exam. For me, it would be the

436
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Speaker 2: bar exam. So I know she's got at least two

437
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Speaker 2: years of college education to get that LPN. Chief, what

438
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Speaker 2: do you know about her education? I mean, certainly she

439
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Speaker 2: knows better.

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Speaker 4: Of course, there's certification classes that she has to go through,

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Speaker 4: and like you said, it's an accredited system to get

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Speaker 4: the licensed practical nurse done.

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Speaker 8: And it's similar to a paramedic program.

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Speaker 4: A paramedic program here goes through college level education classes

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Speaker 4: and then you have to take a professional exam to

446
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Speaker 4: get certified, and then there's continuing medical education you have

447
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Speaker 4: to do in.

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Speaker 8: The state of Florida.

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Speaker 4: So similar to my paramedic exam, I have to continue

450
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Speaker 4: to do medical education in order to renew my license

451
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Speaker 4: every two years. So this is a person who should

452
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Speaker 4: be up to speed on everything. They're up to date

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Speaker 4: on CPR, They're up to date on all their training

454
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Speaker 4: and everything they're supposed to be doing to be a

455
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Speaker 4: licensed practical nurse. And then again they have to do

456
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Speaker 4: continuing education to ensure that they keep that license current.

457
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Speaker 4: And again, she was working for two different companies at

458
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Speaker 4: the time of this event, so she's obviously she was

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Speaker 4: certified to be doing the work. I don't necessarily think

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Speaker 4: that half the things she was doing qualifies under the

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Speaker 4: LPN curriculum and as part of her job duties.

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Speaker 2: What more do we know about what happened to the

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Speaker 2: teen girl victim? Listen.

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Speaker 6: Particularly disturbing sequence caught on camera shows Airs forcefully placing

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Speaker 6: what appears to be a washcloth over the mouth of

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Speaker 6: the victim and forcefully wiping it. Airs holds the washcloth

467
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Speaker 6: in place for approximately ten seconds as the victim becomes

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Speaker 6: visibly distressed, exhibiting physical resistance by tensing her body and

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Speaker 6: attempting to move her head away. The officer notes these

470
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Speaker 6: reactions suggest the victim was struggling to breathe and experiencing pans,

471
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Speaker 6: and there is.

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Speaker 2: One particular moment in the footage. I'm sure the chief

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Speaker 2: has seen it. Listen.

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Speaker 6: At one point during the hours of camera footage, nurse

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Speaker 6: Nia Ayers places a white washcloth over the victim's mouth

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Speaker 6: and then violently shakes the victim's head airs, then places

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Speaker 6: tape over the victim's mouth again, and then throws the

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Speaker 6: roll of tape across the room towards the wall and

479
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Speaker 6: what can only be called an aggressive manner.

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Speaker 5: The eighteen year old girl is on a BiPAP machine

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Speaker 5: and ayers is caught on camera as she walks around

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Speaker 5: the victim's bed and physically forcefully adjusts the victim's breathing device,

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Speaker 5: then violently shakes the victim's head and says a profanity

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Speaker 5: d statement heard on the surveillance camera.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Chief, you didn't tell me you had

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Speaker 2: audio two. That's awesome. Okay, wait a minute, So when

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Speaker 2: you were saying she was shaking her head violently, you're

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Speaker 2: saying the video depicts the defendant shaking the victim's head

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Speaker 2: violently with her hands.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's correct, she's manipulating her head in a violent manner.

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Speaker 4: When it appears she's trying to adjust the BiPAP machine

492
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Speaker 4: and she's obviously she's saying, she's yelling expellatives, and then

493
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Speaker 4: it appears she throws tape and just almost in a

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Speaker 4: fit of Reachay wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: So Ben Powers, criminal defense attorney, Oh man, you know,

496
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Speaker 2: way back when when you and I first started trying cases,

497
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Speaker 2: we would never have a video, and the defense, like

498
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Speaker 2: you would say, we don't know what really happened. We

499
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Speaker 2: don't have a video. You're gonna believe the state's witness. Well,

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Speaker 2: guess what, Gurky has a video and not just video,

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Speaker 2: ben Powers, What do you do as a defense attorney?

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Speaker 2: Do you just shrink down just a tiny bit in

503
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Speaker 2: your seat front the jury when they start rolling that

504
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Speaker 2: beautiful footage for the jury and you see everything that's

505
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Speaker 2: described in opening statements is actually true?

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Speaker 1: What do you do?

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Speaker 2: Just take notes like oj Simpson didn't pretend it's not happening.

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Speaker 9: So when it comes to a case like this, I

509
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Speaker 9: think a big limitation is the prosecuting victim isn't able

510
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Speaker 9: to say whether they were in pain, what they were thinking,

511
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Speaker 9: whether they couldn't breathe, And so it's going to bring

512
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Speaker 9: us back to what the video has. And as it

513
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Speaker 9: turns out, the video has audio, and so if it's

514
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Speaker 9: not on video and if we can't hear it, then

515
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Speaker 9: it didn't happen. And so unless they have some other

516
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Speaker 9: medicals to support what they're claiming, it's all going to

517
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Speaker 9: come down to the video and audio, and if there's

518
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Speaker 9: multiple interpretations, then there's multiple views, not just the state's view.

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Speaker 2: I don't like you very much right now at all,

520
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Speaker 2: because what you said is actually true. In some cases,

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Speaker 2: I think it can be argued that what you're seeing

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Speaker 2: is actually actually subjective. In other words, should I believe

523
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Speaker 2: you or my lying eyes? Is there some other way

524
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Speaker 2: to explain away what's happening? But to doctor Jeff Kloshewski,

525
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Speaker 2: joining US forensics psychologist, the curse, the cursing. I don't

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Speaker 2: know exactly what it is, something along the lines of

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Speaker 2: if you b goes straight to h el I hate you.

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Speaker 2: I can only imagine. But when you have the audio

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Speaker 2: profanity leveled at this girl, a teen girl in a

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Speaker 2: vegetative state, a vegetative state, and she's cursing her out

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Speaker 2: to me, that gives the meaning to her actions. Because

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Speaker 2: now I understand that Gurky has audio as well as video.

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Speaker 2: It explains what may have been implicent would have to

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Speaker 2: figure out what she was thinking when she did this

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Speaker 2: to the girl. But now we know because we can

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Speaker 2: hear her cursing the little girl out right.

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Speaker 10: And when we're talking about the victim really not physically

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Speaker 10: being able to do anything that would cause someone to

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Speaker 10: be enrage to abuse the person. From a punishment perspective,

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Speaker 10: what we're really talking about here is using these acquisitives

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Speaker 10: and yelling in the victim's face to try to impose

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Speaker 10: some emotional turmoil. So this idea that the perpetrator must

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Speaker 10: have been enraged and having an angry overse this is

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Speaker 10: beyond this.

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Speaker 8: This is she's likely.

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Speaker 2: Using emotional turmoil. She's cursing a vegetative state teen girl

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Speaker 2: quasiplegic and causing emotional turmoil more.

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Speaker 10: Than emotional turmoil, right, I think is.

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Speaker 2: So much there than emotional turmoil.

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Speaker 8: The idea that you know, I had.

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Speaker 2: Emotional turmoil this morning when I had to I an

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Speaker 2: not one, but two of my daughter's skirt uniform uniform

553
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Speaker 2: skirts before she walks out the door at seven point fifteen. Surprise,

554
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Speaker 2: none of the skirts. We're right, it had to be

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Speaker 2: not this one that I ironed, but the second one

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Speaker 2: I ironed. Okay, sign that's turmoil. But this little girl

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Speaker 2: is having her mouth tape. She's basically waterboard with a

558
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Speaker 2: wet cloth. She can't breeze, you can't move, she can't speak,

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Speaker 2: and now she's getting cursed out.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, emotional terror, right, I mean combine at all And

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Speaker 10: the audio is another gives more evidence of this person

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Speaker 10: sadistically trying to cause harm.

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Speaker 6: The camera provide the timestamp for events, documenting the time

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Speaker 6: incidents take place. At twelve twenty three am, Airs wipes

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Speaker 6: a nosebleed as a result of tape having been placed

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Speaker 6: over the victim's mouth. At twelve twenty six am, Airs

567
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Speaker 6: applies more tape to the victim's mouth. At twelve twenty

568
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Speaker 6: eight am, Airs is scene forcefully ripping the tape from

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Speaker 6: the victim's mouth. The camera timestamps more abuse at three

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Speaker 6: twenty one am, when shakes the victim's head and aggressively

571
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Speaker 6: rubs her face.

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Speaker 2: With a towel.

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Speaker 6: At three twenty three am, Airs continues to shake the victim.

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Speaker 6: At five oh seven am, Airs is scene pinching the

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Speaker 6: area around the victim's mouth.

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Speaker 2: Patience maimed sometimes killed by health care pros. That is

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Speaker 2: Dad Dominic HACKEI speaking to me. He had twin baby boys, beautiful,

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Speaker 2: but Noah's legs were fractured. How did that happen? And

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Speaker 2: now he finds out Listen.

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Speaker 11: They initially told us that it could have been done

581
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Speaker 11: from an injection that was given maybe too rough or

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Speaker 11: too hard. So they were going to implement some trainings

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Speaker 11: so that the nurses could be able to give injections correctly.

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Speaker 11: And that's kind of the only explanation that was given.

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Speaker 11: And I want to make it perfectly clear. Bone density,

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Speaker 11: vitamin deficiency, brittle bone syndrome was never ever brought up

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Speaker 11: in our case. It was never questioned, it was never

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Speaker 11: it was never a fact.

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Speaker 2: For us. Yeah, that wasn't natural. The nurse did it

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Speaker 2: to Chief Gurky joining us from Saint Cloud PDE. In

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Speaker 2: that case, and I've got a whole stack of similar

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Speaker 2: cases here. The nurse was fracturing newborn infants bodies, not

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Speaker 2: just fracturing, breaking breaking, like breaking their bones, and she

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Speaker 2: was caught on video and at first nobody knew what

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Speaker 2: had happened. Then they started looking at the video and

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Speaker 2: then they found out. And it wasn't just Twin Noah.

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Speaker 2: There were many many other babies, newborns that had their

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Speaker 2: bones as they're laying there. Can you imagine the pain

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Speaker 2: a brand new baby just gets born in this world

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Speaker 2: and somebody breaks their leg, breaks their legs, snaps it

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Speaker 2: in two. I mean if you can see a monitor.

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Speaker 2: I want you to look at the X right of

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Speaker 2: Noah's leg It just and what's so upsetting about it

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Speaker 2: is the helpless nature of the victims, like in the

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Speaker 2: case you have right now.

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Speaker 8: It's shocking.

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Speaker 4: You know, again, Nancy, I told you, I mean, twenty

608
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Speaker 4: five years in law enforcement, I've seen some horrific things.

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Speaker 4: People that are supposed to do no harm to people,

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Speaker 4: and they go out and do this all the time.

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Speaker 8: I will tell you there is you know, we.

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Speaker 4: Have a very very no nonsense policy when it comes

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Speaker 4: to harming people in our society, and I'll be honest

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Speaker 4: with you, the most vulnerable, including our poor eighteen year

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Speaker 4: old victim and these newborns. You know, there's I said

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Speaker 4: it before, there's a special place in hell for people

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Speaker 4: like that, and our job is to actually bring them

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Speaker 4: to justice and ensure they never harm another person again.

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Speaker 4: There's always a common denominator in these things. When you

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Speaker 4: start to see multiple infants in the cases you're describing,

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Speaker 4: there's always somebody that's working around the same time, and

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Speaker 4: you can never explain these fractures. That's really how you

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Speaker 4: do these things, and that's how you start looking you know,

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Speaker 4: the poor mother of our victim. She's not sleeping at night.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it bothers her so much that she thought

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Speaker 4: she was doing the right thing by bringing in caregivers

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Speaker 4: to get her daughter the best possible help that she

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Speaker 4: could have all night long, and now she's devastated. I

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Speaker 4: met with her again. I met with her last night.

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Speaker 4: You know, we cried. I gave her a hug.

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Speaker 8: She's doing the right thing now.

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Speaker 4: But it's horrible thinking that these cameras were in existence,

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Speaker 4: but she had no knowledge that it was occurring. So

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Speaker 4: now she is going back with us and we're looking

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Speaker 4: at all these incidents for potentially more charges or potentially

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Speaker 4: more violence that was happening under her roof while she

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Speaker 4: was in the next room.

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Speaker 8: It's heartbreaking.

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Speaker 2: That's to think you're in the very next room while

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Speaker 2: your daughter is being tortured by this Well, I gave

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Speaker 2: up cursing when I had the twins, or try to

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00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: doctor Jeff Kelschewsky joining us are now forensic psychologist. You

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Speaker 2: told me what say it is was, and you explained

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00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: it the actual psychological or psychiatric definition. But when you

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Speaker 2: add the factor that the person the praise on someone

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Speaker 2: so helpless, that's got to be another facet to sadism.

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Speaker 8: Well for sure.

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Speaker 10: I mean with sadism, sometimes people do it for the control.

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Speaker 10: They get someone who's not under control and they have

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Speaker 10: control over them. That's not occurring in this case. So

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Speaker 10: this particular sort of sadistic behavior and maneuver, to me,

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Speaker 10: is even more disturbing because the aim of it is

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Speaker 10: not necessarily to get control of the victim.

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Speaker 8: The victim was already under control.

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Speaker 10: But the actual sort of pleasure that this person gets

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Speaker 10: out of inflicting pain on this helpless victim, you know,

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Speaker 10: makes it more concerning from a forensic perspective about this

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Speaker 10: person's dangerousness, and particularly if they don't go to prison

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Speaker 10: or when they get out of prison, this kind of

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Speaker 10: thing doesn't necessarily go away, and I'd be very concerned

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Speaker 10: if this perpetrator had access to victims.

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Speaker 5: Again, the victim's mother provides police officers with four pictures

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Speaker 5: of the injuries the victim had to her face and eyelid.

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Speaker 5: The officer observed red marks and scratches around the mouth

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Speaker 5: that the victim and red marks on her eyelid where

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Speaker 5: it appears skin had ripped off from the tape.

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Speaker 1: Crime stores with Nancy Grace, hired.

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Speaker 3: To care for a vulnerable team, now charged with aggravated abuse.

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Speaker 3: The Heirs charged herself in, but not before disturbing footage surface.

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Speaker 8: Their mother demanded justice.

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Speaker 2: I want you to listen to the audio that goes

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Speaker 2: with the video we just showed you. We're twenty four

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Speaker 2: year old Nia Ayers is to what she's being charged with,

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Speaker 2: being charged.

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Speaker 8: With aggravated.

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Speaker 3: Disabled person's abuse of a disabled adults.

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Speaker 2: Okay, did you hear what she said at the very

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Speaker 2: in uh huh uh huh. She's just told chief that

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Speaker 2: she's being charged with aggravated kind of got glory right there,

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Speaker 2: but I think it's going to be aggravated assault on

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Speaker 2: a disabled person or aggravated abuse of a disabled person.

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Speaker 2: What is she actually charged with at this juncture? Chief?

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Speaker 8: So that's what it is. It's aggravated abuse of a

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Speaker 8: disabled adult.

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Speaker 4: And the Florida statute is eight twenty five point one

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Speaker 4: oh two subsection two.

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Speaker 1: B uh.

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Speaker 4: So that's what she's facing right now. And again there's

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Speaker 4: going to be potentially more counts that we're looking at now.

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Speaker 8: We're reviewing all videos.

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Speaker 2: I know you're not a shrink, chief, but what is

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Speaker 2: wrong with these people.

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Speaker 4: Number One, I will never try to make an excuse

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Speaker 4: for anyone like this, nor even try to understand why

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Speaker 4: they do these things, Nancy. But I think it is

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Speaker 4: important that we recognize that there are still a lot

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Speaker 4: of healthcare workers that are out there that do the

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Speaker 4: right thing. I'd be remiss if I did not say that,

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Speaker 4: Like you said, you've had some great healthcare workers. These

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Speaker 4: are the anomalies that float in and out of this

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Speaker 4: profession and any profession that we have in our society.

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Speaker 4: Law enforcement, officers, attorneys, anywhere. There's people that probably should

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Speaker 4: not be doing the profession they're in. These people will

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Speaker 4: just continue to out themselves over and over again thanks

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Speaker 4: to social media, to videos, and I will tell you

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Speaker 4: we will be there. Law enforcement is going to be there,

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Speaker 4: and we will hold them accountable, highly accountable, and ensure

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Speaker 4: that justice is served on these poor victims that are

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Speaker 4: unable to basically help themselves.

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Speaker 2: Well say, of course, you're right, you're right. For instance,

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Speaker 2: when I hear about a lawyer that does something despicable

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Speaker 2: and horrible, it makes me feel terrible. Or when a

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Speaker 2: member of law enforcement abuses a defendant, whether they're guilty

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Speaker 2: or innocent, I feel like it's a kick in my stomach.

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Speaker 2: The vast, vast majority of healthcare workers, doctors, nurses, are

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Speaker 2: amazing angels. But this woman, oh yeah, she's having supper

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Speaker 2: with Satan and it's not gonna be long. If you

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Speaker 2: know or think you know anything about this case or

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Speaker 2: other cases connected to twenty four year old Nia Ayers,

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Speaker 2: Dial four zero seven eight nine one six seven hundred,

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Speaker 2: Nancy Grace signing off good night for