WEBVTT - When the Good Guys Win: Behind the Music 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.680 What's up. It's Granger Smith and this is the Granger 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:22.920 Smith Podcast, Episode seven. It seems like every time I'm 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:25.840 talking about music now people are asking me about this podcast, 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:29.080 which blows me away because I never thought it would 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:33.680 become something that I love to do this much. Episode seven. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.680 So five episodes I've done now in the back of 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.520 my bus. I did one in the Lonely hotel room, 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:46.280 and then today I'm a home. Our home is outside 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:50.000 of Georgetown, Texas. We live out in the country, and 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.239 I have a couple days off. We're gonna leave here 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.520 tomorrow night. I'm gonna go to New York City. The 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.520 band is going to Albuquerque, and then we all meet 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:03.320 in Las Vegas the day after that. And then things 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.840 get really crazy, really crazy, because we have an album 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.560 coming out October the twenty seventh, that's in a few weeks, 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.600 and I thought it would be pretty cool for this 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.560 episode to tell you the stories behind the songs and 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.600 not you know, fancy stories like I would say on 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:26.040 the radio. I'm talking about digging deep and telling you 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:30.240 where these came from, how they were built, crafted, created, 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.880 and why these are the ones that made the cut. 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.680 I'll tell you now this album called When the Good 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:41.520 Guys Win. The theme of it is living for today 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.199 because tomorrow is not guaranteed. That's been the theme all along. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.800 It started about a year ago when I fell off 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.240 the stage, broke a couple of ribs, punctured a lung, 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:56.720 and so much of that made me think about life 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:01.320 and made me wonder why we all always worry about 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.480 tomorrow and the next show and the next album and 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.960 the next tour. And I've been preaching to my band 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.160 and crew this whole year. Let's enjoy this tour that 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.680 we're on today. Let's enjoy the show we're about to 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:16.080 play tonight, because that's all we have, right. And so 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.480 as I tell these stories, as I talk about these songs, 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.120 I have some help here in the room with me. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:26.160 Say hi everybody, Hi everybody. These are my two kids, 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.600 Lincoln in London, and they know these songs better than anyone, 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.919 So it only makes sense that they help with the podcast. Right, 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.560 do you guys like this album? Yeah? All right, let's 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:53.720 get started. Hey DJ, Hey Sunset, Hey full Moon Creeping 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:59.280 up over then find in the Distance, Hey Summer Breeze, 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:05.240 Hey to Lane Road. I Got a girl that means 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.120 the world to mean, if you wanna help me, let 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.080 her know. Gimme Something is the first song on the album, 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.200 track one, and I think it's a great way to 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.120 lead into the songs because here we have this very innocent, 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:19.760 descriptive narrative from a guy out on a date with 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.919 a girl and he really likes this girl, and he's 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.519 calling for help through all the signs in the night, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.040 the stars, the moon, the radio, as if they're all 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.160 friends of his and they can help have influence on 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.040 her and how she feels about him. Gimme something, she 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.520 convanced to throw up her hands to hunt through her hair, 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.520 falling down, Jimmy, Something that'll take your breath to win 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.760 and make or think that Heaven dry here right now. 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:48.280 Something that'll get those eyes something at me back. She's 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:52.240 falling Carter down, the stars tonight, anything in turn the 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:56.360 space that's in between us in and nothing come will 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:00.760 give me something. Yeah. One of the on the song's 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.800 name is Justin Wilson. You're going to hear that name 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.200 a lot because he had a hand in six of 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.280 the songs on this album. He's a genius writer, he's 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.360 a brilliant singer, and he sang the demo on the 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.400 song originally, and it freaked me out because then I 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.880 had to go in make this record and sing it 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:18.960 and know that I wasn't going to be able to 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.800 do any justice to what Justin did. But man, he 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.039 makes me better and I feel lucky to be able 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:33.960 to soak up anything I can from him. Gimmy something, givy. 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.800 Some said this album is number nine for me, and 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.600 people want to know what makes this album different from 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.400 the others. Well, that's pretty easy. See. I was touring 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.960 constantly during twenty sixteen and seventeen, so the only way 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.280 I could make this album was on the road, writing, editing. 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.680 A lot of the recording, believe it or not, was 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.840 all done on the road. I sang every song at 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:59.200 home and it's not a studio, it's really a closet, 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:04.560 and and I recorded the drums and the bass and 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.960 some of the bigger guitars in the big studio, but 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:10.000 everything else was on the road. And I think that's 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:13.040 really going to reflect back on the songs, because here 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:14.560 I am sitting on the back of the bus and 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.840 I'm parked in a parking lot watching people pull in 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.560 and they're getting out and they're lining up in the 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.160 venue that I'm about to play, and I get to 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:25.039 look at the exact people that I'll eventually deliver these 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.719 songs to. What better way to do it? And on 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.640 top of that, I get to have writers out on 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.559 the road with me and we go and they watched 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.599 the show that I'm about to play, and then we 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.400 go back to the bus and we say things like, A, 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.800 you did this and it was amazing, Let's do more 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.120 of that, or be you know, I watched the whole 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.840 show and I didn't see very much of this. Let's 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.120 write that, And I think that's how I ended up 0:05:51.120 --> 0:06:06.280 recording You're in It. You're in at this track two 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.000 on the album, and it's got this beat that's perfect 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.520 for a live show. It has energy, it has some 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.920 mystery around it, and yet it's still a country love song, 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.080 just as that bojo that you know on a Saturday 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.120 night a packed house and the lights come on in 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.400 the front of the stage. It works. You read it 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:28.320 every single good time. We're in a redvine in my mind, 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:34.080 jam fine, you read it every down of what could beat? All? 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:39.560 I see you and me not reading everything. I don't 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.760 know what the USU hoes all. I know is Gerl 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:56.560 you're in One of the writers on this song. His 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.120 name is Justin Adams, and he's an artist himself, a 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.320 great dude and a great artist, and this is his 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.359 first major cut as a songwriter. So I'm so proud 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.360 of him for that. And you know, that brings up 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.000 something that I've never felt before, and that's the responsibility 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.680 of singing another songwriter's song. And as a songwriter myself, 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.120 I know how impactful that could be, and I know 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:21.080 how important every cut is. And so here I am 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.880 out on the road writing and bringing guys out with me, 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.720 and inevitably that one of the writers would say, hey, Granger, 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.160 you know, I want to play something we wrote a 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:31.920 couple weeks ago and see if you dig it, maybe 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.560 you could help finish it for me, And so they 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.240 would play it, and several times I would think that 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.640 song is amazing, and no, I'm not going to help 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.360 you finish because it's already done, but I want to 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.680 record it. And then I kind of get this new 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:47.480 ownership in the song in a way that I've never 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:52.120 felt before, and I feel this responsibility of thank you 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.000 for allowing me to be the voice of your idea, 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.920 your baby, and they're thinking, thank you for giving my 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.680 song a chance. And so it's this mutual camaraderie that's 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.560 such an amazing feeling. It's like having a teammate in 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:13.920 this crazy music business, and that's awesome. This podcast is 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:17.080 brought to you by EEE Energy. My name is Granger Smith, 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.600 and I'm talking about my brand new album that comes 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:23.080 out October twenty seventh to the world called When the 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.600 Good Guys Win. And I got to tell you guys, 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.720 in case you didn't know, I understand in this crazy 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.880 world of streaming music, which is great. You know. I'm 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.720 all about people hearing the music however they can, and 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.199 streaming is very important because it gets my name out there. 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.200 It spreads the message so that hopefully you and your 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.840 friends could come see me in concert. But I also 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.840 want to talk about the few people that actually still 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.160 buy records and what that does to an artist and 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:50.520 the team around them. You see, it helps build our story, 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.480 it helps build our reputation. It allows us to have 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:57.080 bigger tours and deeper spots on festivals. Buying the CD 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.240 itself is actually a really cool piece of memorabilia you 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:00.880 could bring to the show. When we could sign for 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.600 you too. So if you're one of those people that 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.480 still buys records, God bless you, and I hope you 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.719 know that you're keeping our dream alive. I want to 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.960 get back to this track listing on my brand new 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.000 album When the Good Guys Win, and to talk about 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.880 that a little bit more. I have two people sitting 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.800 with me right now that know these songs better than 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.120 most because they've been listening to these songs since they 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.080 were just demos. They're my two kids, Lincoln in London. 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.920 They're six and three. Okay, so you guys can sit 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.640 on my lap. Wait, first of all, do you guys 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:35.360 like all my new songs? Yes? What's your favorite song 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.360 of mine on the new album? Ooh ooh? I know what? 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.960 They rocket you out? You're in it? What do you 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:49.920 like about your in it? I like it because Lincoln 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.000 always gets me and dance moves and he always says 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:58.040 MoMA on the front porch rocket. Yeah, Lincoln seems to 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.680 be like in rocket ships. Right now. That's a battery, Boddy. 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.120 You can't put batteries in your mouth. Why do you 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.640 like that one? Because? I like it because it's funny 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.240 and it has lots of dance moves. Well, that's the 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:14.000 second time you liked the song because of the dance moves. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.000 I'll be honest with you. On track number three called 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.959 raise your Glass, dance moves is not the first thing 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.360 that comes to my mind, but a really cool song 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.880 with a great message about celebrating the good times is 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.760 could be in me on it song, Boys, I got 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:50.720 the first round, could be the last second, hell Mary, 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:57.240 game winning touchdom, could be hitting it off with the 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.880 one that you're hitting on, turning the page new day, 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:06.840 finally moving on. Whatever it is, Yeah, whatever it is, 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:12.120 Raising your Class made the coast to all of the 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:16.280 times and me the most. Go on and let you 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:22.560 worries roll out off your beasts. Still got some man 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:27.520 to make, a whole lot of shots love to take, 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:33.240 so let's hold them high, lil tonight like it's out last, 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:42.760 Raising your Class. So this whole album was produced by 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:47.360 Frank Rodgers, Derek Wells, some stupidly talented guys that are 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.679 some of my good friends and me. I'm way too 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.240 OCD and way too too much of a control freak 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.920 to not also produce all my albums too. And I 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.480 remember on raise up your glass and keep in mind 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.439 that this is all edited on the back of my bus. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:03.959 I'm talking to the to the guy building the beats, 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:05.880 and I was like, I wanted some kind of Grandfather 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.840 clock like and he found it and it worked. This 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:11.480 song is one of those songs that could have been 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.080 about it. It could have been stripped down one guy 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.760 and a guitar, but we gave it this energy. So 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.760 it's strong and powerful, and I think the message is 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.200 strong and powerful. And we're gonna be able to stand 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.960 up there and play this live and although it may 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.439 be a little sentimental lyrically, sometimes we're gonna be able 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.240 to stand up there on stage and deliver with power 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.000 and I love raise up your glass. What a good 0:12:34.040 --> 0:13:06.520 message to take mess? All right, what's next? Track number four? 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.640 It's the first time I get to talk about SGOP. Now. 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.240 There's a group of buddies that I've developed a relationship 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.199 with over the last few years, starting with at the 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:20.640 boot fits announced these guys Andy Albert, Jordan Schmidt, my 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.480 buddy Justin Wilson, who we talked about at the beginning, 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.199 and me. The first tour that we took together US 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.880 four was when I was on the Florida Georgia line 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:32.439 tour in Canada last fall. We brought these guys out 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:36.360 and we hit it off immediately creatively and as friends. 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.760 So when we got together on the bus with some guitars, 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.960 it just felt right. We wrote a bunch of really 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.120 good songs, back to back to back. At one point 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.760 we decided we needed a name for our group. You know, 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.439 every great group of songwriters. Not that we're great yet, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.920 we're trying to be, but every great group of songwriters 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.400 has a name. After a bunch of beers and a 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.240 bunch of songs and a good day of writing. We 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.920 were at dinner and talking about how we're wanting to 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.920 make a name for ourselves and we haven't established anything yet. 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.920 Somebody said we're just a small group of people, and 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:13.640 for whatever reason, that stupid name became stop and it stuck, 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.720 and we've been saying it ever since now. Out on 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.120 this tour, one of the members of Florida Georgia Lyon 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.160 Tyler Hubbard. I think it was a little bit jealous 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.000 because we were writing songs and he wasn't. And he's 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.080 just a very, very creative guy. He loves to be 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.120 right at the center of creation, so he came to 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.840 me one morning. He goes, hey, hey, Grange, if you 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.520 guys are writing songs and you get on something today, 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.240 will you please let me know? Will you send me 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.680 a text? I said, sure so, sure enough. After breakfast 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.520 we came back, we started writing a little bit, and 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:42.480 as soon as we got a groove and we got 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.880 something feeling right and we got a few words, I 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.640 texted Tyler and I said, hey, man, we're on something. 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.520 And thirty seconds later he was coming in the bus, 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.520 put his reading glasses on, pulled out his phone, pulled 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.840 up his notepad, and we were off to the races. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.280 Here's what we wrote, in order a drink. It goes 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:03.120 down smooth before you can blame. It turned into the 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.720 first single on the record. Happens like that. It started 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.680 with the first line, It led to the second line, 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.080 and then the third, and it was just some guys 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.320 with guitars, grooving, not knowing where it was gonna go. 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:17.000 And sometimes good songs happen like that. It happens love 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:21.480 that out of the Blue scatters in the blood lash. Yeah, 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:27.080 when it happens like that, nothing the loss right into you. Judy. 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.920 All you can do just to keep her around soil, 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.640 The moon goes down in your back at your house. 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.040 One thing will do another. You love each other when 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:40.160 looking you never loved back. It happens like that. This 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.080 song will always be special to me because for the 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.280 music video I used my wife and our little baby boy, River, 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.960 who was one year old at the time. So happens 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:58.400 like that is a very personal song for me. I'm 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.760 die Kanja the kiddy Cat. Well, I don't. I don't 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.360 have a kitty cat song on this album, but a 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:10.200 candy cat song. Well, what we're talking about cats? Oh, 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:13.960 it happens like cats. Yeah, well that's a parody about 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.160 happens like that. So it happens like that, your favorite cat? 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.160 All right, what they're talking about is I made a 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.080 parody if my own happens like that, called I happened 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.680 to like cats? Trying to make the kids laugh, being silly. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.480 I'll make a funny video one day it goes like this. 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:32.960 It's Saturday night. What could be better than crocheting cat 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.240 names all over in my sweater. I've never been a 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.760 dog kind of got chet's in their tails, scratching themselves 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.360 and barking all night. My best friends are at my house, 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:47.440 are in around cloning my cats ride me out. I 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.320 happen to like cats, the ones with the blue, blue lives, 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:56.000 even the green. Yeah, I happen to like cats. Give 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.000 me a feed line over a cane and they got 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.720 nine lives. You need to spouse when you got putsy 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:06.879 Katz all over the house, Milo and sprinkled snowball and 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:10.320 mister Dingles. Yeah, it's a matter of fact. I happen 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:25.760 to like the care it goes on. But I'll spare you. 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.160 I'll spare you from the rest of it. But it's 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.760 kind of sad that my son Lincoln, that's his favorite 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.080 song on the album, even though it's not on the album. 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.119 But I'll put it out one day. I'll make a 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.520 I'll make a video one day for it. Speaking of Lincoln, 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.560 he has his singing debut on this album. And this 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.479 is a song that I wrote with SGOP. It's one 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:46.639 of my favorite songs I wrote with them, and one 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.879 of my favorite songs now to play live. We've been 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.320 playing it live and it's a song about the good 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.479 old things in life, the things that no matter how 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.600 much time goes by, they still hold up. Now. When 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.320 I first made the demo of this song. Lincoln loved 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.280 it and he sang it all the time, so I 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.359 thought he deserved to start the whole song off on 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:28.000 the album goes like this, that red paint good bad tractor, 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.520 massy red paint takes a couple more cranks these days, 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:39.680 but it still holds up. Yeah, still holds up. Bat 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:44.439 forty five wax wheeling song. Every time it comes on. 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.439 If mind having a little crackle in the bottle, but 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.040 give a little time and it'll get you down deep 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:54.000 in the gut. It still holds up. It feels good, 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.760 still turn like a kitten, like a deep draw edge 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:01.720 and like a cold last bottle cold, and my chicking 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.720 in the kitchen man and never get sold my shoe 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:09.119 I am, and where I'm from? Damn right? Sure know 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:16.240 you old country music. I love the way this one feels. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.960 And the idea was very simple. I was with Sgop. 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.520 We were on the bus and we were listening to 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.720 the songs we wrote the day before, you know, test 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.480 them out, see how they were. And sure enough, Andy 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.400 Albert goes, hey, they still hold up, and I said, 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.680 yes they do, and that's the title we need to 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.280 write today. And recording it, we put some good old 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.320 Waylon Jennings Phaser guitars, and I hope that in thirty 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.840 years people could look back on this song too and say, still, 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.439 you know, music has always been healing for me, and 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.560 no matter what event I'm going through in my life, 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:03.200 good or it seems like music is the first thing 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.720 I turned to, especially songs that make me feel good. 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.280 And that's what this next song is, track number six. 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:11.760 It's it's a song that every time I hear it, it 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.320 it just makes me smile. And so much of this 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.679 music business is about getting more people to listen to 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:21.760 you and evolving your sound. But this song is about 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.040 the good guys, and it makes me think about all 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.200 the good guys in my life. Dad, uncle's, brothers, Grandpa, 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:29.159 and I think there's something to say for cutting a 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:31.480 song on a record that that, if not for any 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:35.760 other reason, just makes me feel good. He's a greasy 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:40.439 ranch turning on a big black Chevrolet first in, last 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.760 out every day. He's a mega dollar give a dollar 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.480 if you need me hot or kind of good old boy. 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:51.760 There's a single white trainer, couple lakers on the edge 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:56.000 of town front for Sun Going Down and Matth Brooded, 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.320 Thanks Swinging and the swing like a dream is where 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:03.480 it is? Don't you love it? Win the Good Guys Men. 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:08.639 Don't you love it? When and shit comes in? Yeah? Man, 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:13.200 every now and then what goes around comes around again? 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:18.840 Don't you love it? Long Shot? Prayer on your Dog 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:22.280 on a hill of a tear, he wants to kiss 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:26.399 and she leans. Don't you love him? Win? The Good 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.960 Guys Win? I think this song has got my favorite 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:32.639 line of the whole album. He's a make a dollar, 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:34.639 give a dollar if you need me holler kind of 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:37.800 good old boy. I know some guys like that. I'm 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:40.240 sure we all do. When the Good Guys Win. Is 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:43.320 also the title of the album, but it wasn't always 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:46.800 the title. It actually happened last minute albums in the past. 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.080 A lot of times I've known what the title was 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:51.520 gonna be before I wrote the first song. This one 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:53.960 was different. I had a title, I had a working title, 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.200 and we were just about to go public with a 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:59.680 press release, and just a few days before something happened 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:03.520 that changed the course of this record Forever. Hurricane Harvey 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:06.199 hit the coast of Texas. We all watched it on 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:09.679 the news, and we saw the strength of people. We 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:12.280 saw the strength of my home state. We saw the 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.440 good guys. We needed to recognize the good guys. Right 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.879 then and there, watching the news, it became very clear 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:30.480 I would now rename the album When the Good Guys Win. 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:44.760 February seventeenth, twenty seventeen. I'll never forget that day. We 0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:48.680 were on tour in Riodoso, New Mexico, playing a show 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.879 at a casino called Inn of the Mountain Gods. At 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:53.840 that point, it was about two and a half months 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.280 after I had fallen off the stage in New Jersey, 0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:59.440 broke my ribs and punctured a lungk I spent three 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.879 weeks on the couch, in six weeks recovering before I 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.720 could start playing again. Now, the reason this date was 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:08.840 important to me is because I was gonna go snow skiin. 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.159 And this is a truly redemption thing for me because 0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:14.520 snow skin is one of my favorite hobbies. And as 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:17.760 much as everyone said, man, you just broke some ribs, 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.360 you're still kind of recovering, you probably shouldn't go get 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:23.960 on a mountain, I needed to. You see, snow skin 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:26.439 is one of those things where I could shut the 0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:29.160 world off. I could feel the cold wind in my face, 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:32.479 and the snow under my boots. I could see views 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.800 that I feel like, man, it's not supposed to see 0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:38.240 at that kind of temperature and that kind of altitude. 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:42.760 It's God's gift. And no matter what people said about 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:44.520 my ribs at the time, I needed to be on 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:48.520 that mountain. And that morning was cold. It was really cold. 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:51.560 There was a snowstorm that had moved in. The visibility 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:55.040 was pretty much nothing there in the blizzard, and I 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:56.560 was at the very top of the mountain, which is 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.399 twelve thousand feet. I decided that I should wait out 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:01.600 the blizzard or twenty minutes, so I found a lodge 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:03.480 at the top of the mountain and cruised on in. 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:07.600 Kicked off my skis, found a fireplace in the corner 0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:10.720 and a table, sat down, took off my goggles and 0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:13.760 kind of shook off the snowpowder and then brushed away 0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.040 the drops of water that had formed on the table 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:19.679 from my hat. I pulled out my phone. There was 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:24.040 barely any service. I noticed that I had an email 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:28.200 for my producer, Frank Rogers. I can't make this story up, y'all, 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:30.439 this is exactly how it happened. I pulled up the 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:32.720 email and he had sent me a song. He said, 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:35.720 I know we're not looking for songs right now, but 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:38.520 I think you need to hear this. Now. Keep in mind, 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:41.719