1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Wow oh wow, it's another week 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: of the Almost Famous podcast and I am lucky enough 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: to be talking with my wonderful co host Ashley. I 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: con Eddie, Hi, Ben, Hey, Ashley, how are you? I 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: am lucky and blessed to be talking to my co 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: host Ben Higgins. I uh, this week is a big 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: week for us. We have a lot of really exciting 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: things to talk about, and so we just need to 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: dive into it right away. First off, Ashley, I know 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: you and I are both thrilled with this idea because 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: we had just kind of gotten in the rhythm of 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: being able to meet the people who have listened to 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: this podcast for years in person, and then obviously with 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: the shutdown, we haven't been able to continue that rhythm, 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: and so we found a way to make it work. 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: So here here's the deal. We announced it last week, 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: we'll talk about again this week. We have the Almost 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: Famous Live Yes Live podcast coming to you June four 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: to five pm Pacific time. Ashley tell everybody about it. 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: So you guys, it's basically like a cocktail party before 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: you get to watch Ben season re air on ABC 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: for a nine. Ben's gonna need some drinks to He'll 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: be having his whiskey during this UM Live digital podcast. 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: So for nine dollars you can join us. Um jas 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: will be on a couple of the girls from Ben season, 27 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: and Mike Johnson, who is appearing on our podcast today, 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: will also be back next week and UM you know, ladies, 29 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: we might be doing something like a special meet and 30 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: greet with him and with us. So if you if 31 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: you pay a little lecture, you might have a personal 32 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: meet and greet with Mike Johnson. And who knows what 33 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: can happen in a little alone time, that's right. Yeah, 34 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: so for a little extra money, so the nine dollars 35 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: get you into live podcast, then the meet and greet 36 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: will be a little extra more. But I tell you what, 37 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna be worth it because Mike Johnson is gonna 38 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: have a lot to talk about. He's never been one 39 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: to shy away from saying how he feels, which he'll 40 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: be on the podcast, uh here in just a bit 41 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: today to talk about everything going on in Bachelor Nation. 42 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: But I think on the live meet and greet, I 43 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: could see him sharing a lot more details. Obviously, meeting 44 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: all of you beautiful people out there who are fans 45 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: of this podcast, And as Ashley just said, I'm actually 46 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: really excited because for the first time in a long time, 47 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: some for the first time since the show, some of 48 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: the women from my season are gonna be joining us 49 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: as well, just to hang out, to talk, to laugh, uh, 50 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: and to reminisce on everything that happened during our season 51 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: uh The Bachelor. So again, that's June from four to 52 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: five pm Pacific time. Uh. The link to the tickets. 53 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: I'll read it out loud here, but we'll also be 54 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: posting about it. It's see why a dot Live slash 55 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: channel slash almost famous. Again. We'll be posting about this 56 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: and saying a couple of times throughout the podcast, but 57 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: we're super pumped to see you all, especially celebrating a 58 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: night that will be nerve wracking for me to say. Actually, 59 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: before we get in the hot topics for the week, 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. When we come back, we're 61 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: gonna be talking all of Bachelor news, and we have 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: a lot of it along with the new announcement of 63 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: The Bachelor. Also, Claire Crawley season The Bachelorette is still happening, 64 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: so let's take a break and we come back. It's 65 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: almost fame as podcast first topic of the week, Bachelor 66 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: at Claire Crawley didn't get a heads up about Matt 67 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: jane Is being named the Bachelor, Ashley, I have my thoughts, 68 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: but I want to hear yours first. It's according to 69 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: US Magazine, So this isn't Claire saying it directly to 70 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: US magazine. Does it definitely sound salacious like she thinks 71 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: she's supposed to be in the loop on all Bachelor 72 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: decisions when you read the headline, But when you go 73 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: into it, it says a source says that Claire didn't 74 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: know this was going to happen. Um, there's nothing salacious 75 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: about this. It's a simple statement. She didn't know, and 76 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: they announced, and she found out the way that everybody 77 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 1: else found out, through the Good Morning America announcement. Yeah, 78 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, the headline reads as it. It's true, right, 79 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: she didn't know, not that she should have known, not 80 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: that she's saying she's mad that she didn't know, but 81 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: she found out through Good Morning America. I do think 82 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: that if I was Claire, and I'm sure Claire is 83 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: a better person in the night, I would be a 84 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: little I would imagine there's this like dang, Like typically 85 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, no matter what the circumstances, isn't announced before 86 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: the Bachelor at season has even started, and it's like 87 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: you get your one moment to be the lead, and 88 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: there's already another lead waiting, like typically you at least 89 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: get till after the final rows. But Claire is not 90 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: even gonna get that. But she's probably a better person 91 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: than I. That's just how I would feel. I know 92 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: what you're saying. To use a phrase from Tiara, perhaps 93 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: she feels like perhaps she could feel like this is 94 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: taking her sparkle away a little bit. But on the 95 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: brighter side, she doesn't have to worry about any of 96 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: her guys um being there starting a campaign to be 97 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: a bachelor. You know, none of her guys are going 98 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: to become bachelor. Yeah. It well, And I honestly, I mean, 99 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: do you view that I viewed as a positive for her. 100 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: I've used a positive it for her for sure, because 101 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: the guy's no going into it is Hey, I'm here 102 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: for Claire and Claire only now. There's obviously other things 103 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: that can happen, paradise and all the stuff, But at 104 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 1: least your first intention, there's gonna be this no who's 105 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: going to be the next lead in that house? And 106 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: I think that's wonderful for her. It sets her up 107 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: and and talking about setting up the process and doing 108 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: it well. Ari lion Dyke Jr. Has made headlines this 109 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: week saying the bachelor process barely works that according to 110 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: e Online, he's married with a kid. So I think 111 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: what he's saying here is that it doesn't work often 112 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. And it was really interesting. 113 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: Jared and I were doing an interview about a week ago, 114 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: and he said that he doesn't think the process was 115 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: right for him, which is super ironic but also explains 116 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: why it took us, you know, four years to get 117 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: married from the time that we met. Yeah. Yeah, So 118 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: I mean, like it's not for everyone. You have to 119 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: be comfortable with moving really fast and getting engaged and 120 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: getting serious before seeing somebody in their own element. Ari says, quote, 121 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: I think initially being the bachelor, you trust the process 122 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: because you're like, this has worked for me, it worked 123 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: in the past because I had such strong feelings towards 124 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: someone in such a short amount of time. He said, 125 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: it's such a difficult I hate to call it process, 126 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: but it's a difficult show. And that's probably why you 127 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: find a lot of people don't make it. It's because 128 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: it's just so taxing emotionally. It's just like it's not 129 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: natural to have two people that you have at the 130 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: end and then have one person break up with the 131 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: other person to get engaged to the other person an 132 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: hour later. It's just so weird. No wonder why it 133 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: barely works. I feel that I get that. I agree 134 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: with them on that it's tough. It's it. It's not 135 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: shocking that it doesn't work every time. But I think 136 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: the caveat to all of that is it works sometimes, 137 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: and what it does it's beautiful. Then we get to 138 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: be a part of it. And to be honest, I'm 139 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: actually shocked about how many times it has worked. I mean, yeah, 140 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: And and the cool part is like, actually my grandma 141 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: follows Ari and Lauren's story like all the time because 142 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: she saw it play out. And I don't know she 143 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: was an Ari fan when was airing. I don't know 144 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: that side, but at least that she's a fan of 145 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: their love story now because it has been so public 146 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: and we do feel so involved and so When it 147 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: doesn't work, it's sad because we're part of that. When 148 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: it does work, we get to celebrate with it. And 149 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: it seems to be working more now than ever because 150 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: I think we have an understanding of what it's like. 151 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: Everybody that goes into it knows what they're getting into. Um. 152 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: You know, obviously, we just had the recent breakup of 153 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: Colton and Cassie. That is one of the first major 154 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: breakups from Bachelor Nation in a long time. In a 155 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: long time. Uh well, speaking of a couple that together, 156 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: Becca Koufrin speaks out about Garrett's controversial police support. That's 157 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: according to the Eon Line as well. Right, So, if 158 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: you guys remember last week, we were talking to Becca 159 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: Martinez about this post and her strong feelings about it. 160 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: We also said that we reached out to Garrett to 161 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: see if he wanted to come on the podcast. We 162 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: don't have him on this week. Nick was actually supposed 163 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: to have him have both he and Becca on last week, 164 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: and Nick announced I believe today that after a phone 165 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: call with Garrett they planned out the whole podcast. It 166 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: sounded good, but then about fifteen minutes after the conversation, 167 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: Garrett texted him saying he actually wasn't comfortable coming on yet, 168 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: he didn't feel like he was ready prepared enough to speak, 169 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: and he still wanted time to educate himself. It's uh. 170 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: And Garrett recently just had an Instagram post. I mean, 171 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's he's in a position where I 172 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: do think we all need to take a step back 173 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: and become educated. Right. But I've also learned recently from 174 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: a little show I do on Sunday Nights called Hope 175 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: Still Wins, that one of the best way to be 176 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: educated is to have conversation, to listen, to understand. And uh. 177 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: And so I think I don't want to speak for 178 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: a gear, but I imagine right now he's doing a 179 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: lot of that and maybe NIX podcast he didn't feel 180 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: was he was ready for it, as you said, but 181 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: Beckett is supporting him. Uh. And you know what, call 182 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: call it what you will. It's it's not when you 183 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: get into a relationship with a partner, you need to 184 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: have them support you. Now, they don't always need to 185 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: agree with you, they don't always need to say hey, 186 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: you have it always right. But I do appreciate it 187 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: when in the most difficult times your partner can stand 188 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: by your side and say, hey, we're working through this 189 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: at home, We're working through this together. I think I 190 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: think we all need to take a step back and 191 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: realize that that is a good thing that Becca is 192 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: in a relationship with Garrett. That is a good thing 193 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: that she is supporting him, even if she's not agreeing 194 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: with him. Right. And Becca was really open about all 195 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: of us on her podcast last week and how difficult 196 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: it was, and when the podcast was released, she even 197 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: felt like she didn't do a good enough job. But 198 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: her takeaway here is she says, Garrett is my fiance 199 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: and I love him and to his core. I believe 200 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: that he's a good person. I don't aligne with and 201 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't agree with his social post um. I don't 202 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: think that he meant it in a malicious way. I 203 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: do think it was tone deaf, and I do I 204 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: think it was the wrong time and message and sentiment. 205 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: So Becca, Geoffrin and Garrett still together. Becca is supporting Garrett. 206 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: So Ashley into some really big news before we bring 207 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: uh Mike Johnson on we gotta just announce, so I 208 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: assume as podcast come on this. According to People Magazine, 209 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: Matt James is the new Bachelor. Well, you guys, it 210 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: is according to everyone now, and this is not the 211 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: first announcement, but he is a new Bachelor, and it's 212 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: the first time Ben and I would be we're talking 213 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: about this. I was, of course, super happy to see 214 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: this big move in Bachelor Nation. There was a petition 215 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: out last week. Did we talk about the petition last week? 216 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: We did? Okay, So there's a partetition out last week 217 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: about getting the first for next season's Bachelor to be 218 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: the first black lead. And I think it was asking 219 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: for eighty five thousand signatures Ben and I signed, and uh, 220 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: I guess. A couple of days later, like the day 221 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: that they hit the eighty five thousand, it was like 222 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: Bachelors like, let's announce it, let's make the move, and 223 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: they announced Matt James, who is Tyler Cameron's best friend. 224 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: By the way, guys, um on Good Morning America. It 225 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: was interesting. I thought it was very very interesting that 226 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: a lot of the press headlines made it seem like 227 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: most Bachelor Nations should have known who Matt James was. 228 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: I think probably didn't know who he was, right, I 229 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: mean yeah, because unless you followed Tyler, you wouldn't have 230 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: known who Matt was. Yeah, and in the grand scheme 231 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: of things, say they get seven million viewers a week, 232 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: and two million people follow Tyler and one million people 233 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: follow Tyler closely enough to really understand their relationship. There's 234 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people probably scratching their heads. Who is 235 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: this guy? He's very handsome, he's well spoken, but I 236 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: don't know who he is. He was casted for Claire season, 237 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: and then Claire and Matt had a little I mean, 238 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: I think it was it was a pretty small tiff, 239 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: but Claire wasn't thrilled that Matt was doing cameo and 240 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: kind of made a Twitter post announcement. At that point 241 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: in time, I think we all realized that Matt going 242 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: on Clear season probably wasn't this like gonna work out 243 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: well for either of them. So it makes sense now 244 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: that he is just moving on to be the Bachelor. 245 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things to discuss here, a lot 246 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: of things I wanna hear and understand about Matt James 247 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: named the next Bachelor. In addition, all that is like, 248 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: where is Mike Johnson going to fill the role? I mean, 249 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest question that a lot of 250 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: Bachelor fans had is, Okay, why are you guys picking somebody, 251 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: a black guy that we don't know? Why didn't you 252 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: pick Mike Johnson, who was so beloved and such a 253 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: front runner for what became Peter season of The Bachelor. 254 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: So we had to have Mike here to give his 255 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: thoughts on all of this. Mike, welcome back to the 256 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: almost famous podcast. Thank you Ben, Thank you Ashally for 257 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: having me back. It was good, of course. Alright, Mike, 258 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: tell us your honest feelings. How did it feel hearing 259 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: that Matt James was going to be the first black 260 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: Bachelor on? Was it Thursday morning? Friday? I think fan 261 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: out Friday, m r, Yeah, one of those days. Matt 262 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: is a good food. That's how I felt. I felt 263 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: he is a single man's looking for love just like 264 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: I am, and he'll be a great bachelord. He'll be 265 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: a great lead. Was walk us through your emotions? I 266 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: was just talking about, you know, uh, Claire being a 267 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: better person than I am. Uh. You know, I remember 268 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: the days leading up to the announcement of the Bachelor, 269 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: and I knew there was other people in that conversation, 270 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: and I was anxious because I kind of set my 271 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: life up to be the next Bachelor, because that's what 272 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: was said to me. But I knew there was other 273 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: people still in the running. I personally would have been 274 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's pretty disappointed or just like disheartened 275 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: if I wasn't announced. True, that's that's how one was 276 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: phil you would think. But quite honestly, I this isn't 277 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: the first time that I felt rejection in his form. 278 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: So you learned to I mean, you built up a callus, right, 279 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: I was. I'm planning on moving um here in a 280 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: few months anyway, so I was. My life has been 281 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: planned and my mom taught me the serenity prayer, and 282 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: I can't focus on things I cannot control, you know, 283 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: And so therefore, honestly, it is what it is. They 284 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: picked a great guy in for like thirty minutes, I 285 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: was but hurt, but after that it's you move on 286 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: with life. No, there's nothing that no one can do 287 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: to make me feel less than I know. I'm an 288 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: amazing even being an amazing person. So therefore I'm not 289 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: gonna let a few executive producers that didn't choose me 290 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: twice make me feel any type of way. Mike, did 291 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: you talk to producers recently about possibly becoming the Bachelor. 292 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't given an offer. Do you didn't have any 293 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: discussions recently? I haven't had any reaching discussions. Why do 294 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: you think that is? What? I mean? What? But we 295 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: we obviously, uh, we're hoping for something like this to 296 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: happen this year. Yeah. Why do you think it is 297 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: that two years in a row now you have felt rejection? Man? 298 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: I honestly, if I knew, I would tell you. I truly, 299 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: if I knew, I would tell you. I was just 300 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: on the phone my grandma earlier. She asked me the 301 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: same question. I just really genuinely don't know. I feel 302 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: that for over a year since I've been in Bastro 303 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: nation um family, I've shown my character dating and day out, 304 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: and I don't feel that nothing that I show is 305 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: not conducible what a bachelor would be, you know. And 306 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: so I'm I have no idea. How did you feel 307 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: about so you've met Matt, You've met Matty and you 308 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: think that he's great bachelor material? Why would they choose him? 309 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: Who's never who the fans aren't connected to? Over you? 310 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: Good question? Actually, Like, if I knew, I would tell you, 311 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: I like This has nothing to do with Matt, right, 312 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: He's He's genuinely a great individual. Why have they choose Matt, 313 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: someone who isn't as known in the light over myself 314 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: for other cast members that you know have built a 315 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: repetation in the light of the Batchel nation. I have 316 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: no to the idea, no idea. I know that Matt 317 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: was cast to be on Claire season, but that's that's 318 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: all I really am. Has anybody reached out to you 319 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: since the announcement from the show? Yes? Yes, what that 320 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: conversation look like? Uh, that conversation was fresh, right. That 321 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: conversation took place on Fridday. Uh. I was golfing Friday, 322 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: So I was already like moving on my life. Literally, 323 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: I don't when I say when I say it, I 324 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: really mean I was already golfen moving on my life. 325 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a single man. I want to wipe you, right. 326 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: But that conversation was raw honesty on my part as always, 327 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: and I was just appreciative that someone reached out. Rachel 328 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: talked this week about her feelings when Matt was announced, 329 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: and it wasn't just happiness. A lot of her was 330 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: holding back because she was saying that she feels like 331 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: this was just like the Batchelor producers checking a box 332 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: and being like, okay, we've had a diversity, we've given 333 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: them their first black lead. Now they can just stop, 334 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, or asking for more change. Right, how did 335 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: you feel did you agree with her sentiments? I do? 336 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: I do? I think that, Um, I'm confused, was like allabastination? 337 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: What happened to Claire? Right? I feel like it's supposed 338 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: to be. Isn't there a certain way that this stuff 339 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: gets announced? You know? Even if it was me, I 340 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: would still say what I think Matt said, which was 341 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: the Claire season like it just the way they rolled 342 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: it out. We're talking about that being in the podcast. 343 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: I said, Hey, I don't I don't know how this 344 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: usually happens, but I I know he's loved Claire's season. 345 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: To go, I would be I would you know, typically 346 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: at least get through your season. It's after the final 347 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: rows and your fifteen minutes of fame is done, and 348 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: you stand up there at the end and you say, hey, 349 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: thank you all for your time of watching me. Now 350 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: it's on too, and they bring out somebody else and 351 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: it's now it feels I mean, what do you think, Mike, like, 352 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: do you think this whole season, Claire season will have 353 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: this like constant look to the future. Now, I hope 354 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't. I hope it doesn't either. Every time that 355 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: I've spoken, I've always mentioned Claire because I on Friday, 356 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: the attention should have still be on Claire. It's her seasons, 357 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: it's she's the current bachelorette, and I just feel like 358 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: the way he did it, it's kind of is going 359 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: to make it come out to be that way. Man. 360 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not fair to her. I love what 361 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: you said on your Instagram about her. You're like, Claire, 362 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: baby girl. We still are so excited about watching you. 363 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: It was so sweet and I'm gonna end this on 364 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: my behalf. I don't know if Ben has any more 365 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: questions With a silly question. A lot of fans of 366 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: notice them back and forth between you and Claire on 367 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: social media. Perhaps a little flirtation. Would we ever be 368 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: able to get to see the beloved Mike Johnson joined 369 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: Claire season. Well, look, it could be a possibility. Let's 370 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: let's start that petition now. If you're down, you guys 371 00:21:53,680 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: would make a hot couple. That's a I mean that's 372 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: just giggles, Mike. That's all we got at that one 373 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: is giggles. That means there's something. There's something there when 374 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: I giggle. When I giggle, I know I don't want 375 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: to say what I'm feeling, all right, fair enough? Uh, 376 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: but Mike, I I do think you've handled this, and 377 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: you know I'm not. I guess I don't know why 378 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm the one that to say this, but I do 379 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: think you've handled this better than than most, especially right 380 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: away coming out and saying, you know, don't feel bad 381 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: for me, you are moving forward. Um, but I do 382 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think when you can, I 383 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: know it's not now all a bachelination is wondering why 384 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: not you? And if you were to have any assumptions, speculation, 385 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: anything that you would understand, why not you? Whenever you 386 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: understand what you will you share it with us. Well, 387 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: I think we're just all kind of like, what's going 388 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: what's going on here? Again? I literally just boys do 389 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: and I on a bad patty, Yo'll talk you know 390 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: else around. I wish I knew the answer to that. 391 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: I truly do. I can speculate like anyone else. Um, 392 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not seeing nobody. Um, I mean great shape. 393 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: I think I'm a decent looking guy. I know that 394 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: I was one of America's fan favorites. I mean, I'm 395 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: professionally in a good place. I'm financially free, I live 396 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: by myself. I mean, I don't know. I really don't know. Well, 397 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: what are the next steps in your life? Besides possibly 398 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: we were going on clar season. You know, when I 399 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: set my mind to something, it often happens. Anyway. Okay, 400 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: so you have a book coming out and you're you're moving. 401 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: Were you moving? Tell us about all this. I'm thinking 402 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: about moving to Austin, you know. Yeah, it's a great city. 403 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: And I'm always at the airport when COVID not going on, 404 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: so I'm right there by the airport. Every awesome as well. 405 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 1: But yes, I have a book coming out. When I 406 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: was on Hannah Brown season The Bacherette, I opened up 407 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: a little bit about a miscarriage that me and my 408 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: ex had, and you know, we talked about it on 409 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: your Guys podcast, which I thank you so much. I 410 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: still get dems about it. And at the time I 411 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: was flooded with people telling me their stories, and quite honestly, 412 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: I was responding back to everyone, or not every single indivision, 413 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: but I was responding to so many people that it 414 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: just continued to flow out of me, and I wrote up. 415 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: I call it a guide in a journal to self 416 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: love and to how to obtain that. I mean, the 417 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: book is, like I said, it's uh, it's soft enough 418 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: to open open you in, bring you in, and strong 419 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: enough to hold your tears. And it's parent enough to 420 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: change your life. And so that's literally my aim with 421 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: this book. Let's come out, when does it come out 422 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: at this fall, let's fault and look forward to it. Well, 423 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: we also have something to look forward to with you, man. Uh, 424 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: we were We're not saying goodbye to you, and I 425 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: don't think anybody will be. Uh. Next week in celebration 426 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: of I mean, the monumental occasion that my season of 427 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: The Bachelor with uh this some of the best women 428 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: of all time, it's re airing on ABC, and uh, 429 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm just thrilled about it. It's the cool It's just 430 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: the best thing for a relationship. But anyways, because it's airing, 431 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: we have nothing to stop. We can't stop it. You're 432 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: kind enough to come join Ashley and I on our 433 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: almost famous live podcast. In addition to that, we're gonna 434 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: be selling some tickets, as we mentioned earlier, to do 435 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: a little meet and greet with the three of us. Uh, Mike, 436 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: what are you hoping to get out of this meet 437 00:25:54,680 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: and greet? Maybe some love? I want? I Ope? So man, well, 438 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: we're super pumped for it. Again, anybody out there listening, Uh, 439 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: continue to tune in. We'll share the link and the 440 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: information to not only the live podcast, but also in 441 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: addition to that, how you can get access to the 442 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: meet and greet with Mike Johnson. And then I mean, 443 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: I guess Ashley and I will be there, but you 444 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: really are there to meet Mike Johnson. Yeah, we're definitely 445 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: making you the headliner right now because you have far 446 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: more of a draw. Yeah, that's right. Um, Mike, are 447 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: you pumped for that? Are you pumped to meet these fans? 448 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm so excited for that. It'll be 449 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: so fun too. That's just what I hated about COVID 450 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: right now, because I want to get out there and 451 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: meet everyone. So this is gonna be a great thing 452 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: for us, all three of us, to be on. Actually, 453 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: you're definitely a headliner. Thank you. Yeah, I'm just we're 454 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: all like tied up and married, you know, and it's 455 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: way more fun to meet single people from Batchelor Nation, 456 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: because if you're single, you want to meet the singles. 457 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: You know, hopefully not for long. You know, I'm tired. 458 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm tired of being a single forever. I got great hair. 459 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: Did you say you have great hair? Gray hair? Oh? 460 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna say you do have great hair, and 461 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: I like your hair at this leg if that's weird 462 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: for you to say that, the quarantine cut is great 463 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: for you. Thank you, appreciate unbelievable. What Hey, anybody out 464 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: there listening, make sure you tune in later on Mike. 465 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: We appreciate you, man, thanks for for sharing with us. 466 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: I know this is uh, I mean, hey, friend a 467 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: friend here. Um, I know this last week had did 468 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: not be easy, would not be the word. It's just 469 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 1: a little disheartening. And uh and again you just handled 470 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: it better than than I ever would. And you just 471 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: handled it in a way that uplifted Claire and Matt 472 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: um And so thanks for representing Bachelor Nation. Well it 473 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: helps us all out. So thank you. Yeah, that really 474 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: was a beautiful Instagram post it baby smile. I appreciate that. 475 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: I think one of the king said, the best judgment 476 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: man when he's in controversy and the way that he 477 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: acts afterwards is how you should see him. And so 478 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. Then Hey, no problem, Mike. Hey, 479 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you next week. We'll see you next week. 480 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: Looking forward to a buddy anything, uh, anything anywhere anybody 481 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: can check you out. Make sure that you go get 482 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: the book. Mike Johnson's book will be coming out this fall, 483 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: also following on Instagram, and uh, and we'll be seeing 484 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: you next week. But thanks, see buddy. If you're looking 485 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: for tickets or the meat and greet tickets, make sure 486 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: you go to c y a dot Live, slash channel, 487 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 1: slash almost famous. So we heard from Mike. Now there 488 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: are a ton of quotes out there from Bachelor Nation 489 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: responding to the news of Matt, And I do want 490 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: to say that, like I said that Matt was random 491 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: of random choice, I just mean he was far more 492 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: of a random choice than than Mike, who has been 493 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: a fan favorite in the past, you know what I mean. Like, 494 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: Matt does seem like such a nice guy, and I 495 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: got so stoked about him being the Bachelor after um, 496 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: seeing Hannah's response. How did you see Hannah's response on Instagram? Ben, Yeah, 497 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: definitely she was wasn't cute? Yeah, it was really awesome. 498 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: And I mean we've watched you and I have been 499 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: able to watch my Matt and UH from a distance 500 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people have, and he is he has 501 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: that like charisma that is it's just like it feels 502 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: fun to be around. And so I'm excited to watch 503 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: that UH displayed on TV because it's been a while, 504 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: including myself, where we've had somebody that, even from a distance, 505 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: is so charismatically you're just like, I want to know 506 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: that person, right, And seeing Hannah's reaction me think of 507 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: kind of like the time that Nick was announced. It's 508 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 1: like when that like older brother figure is announced as 509 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: the Bachelor and you know that they deserve it so 510 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: much and you know that they're like such a good 511 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: person and you just want to see them like find 512 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: their happily ever after, So seeing I like kind of 513 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 1: just I don't know, you could just trust that somebody 514 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: is so good and decent after seeing their friends react 515 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: in such a giddy way. And I mean, this is 516 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: a huge announcement for the Bachelor. I mean, I know 517 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: that we can we can criticize timing, we can say, wow, 518 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: this feels that you need your reaction, Like, that's not 519 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: my place to say say any of that, you know, 520 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: But what I will say is this is a big 521 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: announcement for the Bachelor, and so you know, if they're 522 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: going to make this announcement when they did, then they're 523 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: going to make sure that he is like an outstanding 524 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: human like they This is a big deal for them, 525 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: and so we can get excited about the fact that 526 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: now we have a bachelorette season to look forward to, 527 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: but also a really exciting Bachelor's season with a extremely 528 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: rutable lead. Yeah. I'm really excited to get to know him. 529 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: That's kind of fun, and it's you know, it's also 530 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: going to be fun is seeing somebody who hasn't been 531 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: through the process before, has no idea what to expect 532 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: to be thrown into the position of the lead. I'm 533 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,239 Speaker 1: kind of scared for him. That sounds awful. Scared. All right, 534 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: let's read some quotes. This is exactly what Hannah Brown said, 535 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: and you guys didn't see her Instagram story. Just what 536 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,239 Speaker 1: the heck? Matt James is the Bachelor? I literally just 537 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: woke up and I could not be more excited. You 538 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: all should be freaking excited because he's like the best 539 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: human being in the entire world. Go ahead, get started 540 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: making your number one Matt James a fan t shirts printed, 541 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: because I'm definitely gonna be wearing one, y'all. This is 542 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: amazing and so proud of you. Matt jar To What 543 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: the crap it's that was really fun? Wells said this 544 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: exclamation point, great move, Bachelor, ABC, But I also kind 545 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: of want to see Claire and Matt get into a 546 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: fight night one. About his cameo account, Sean Lowe said, awesome, 547 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing a season without a recycled a 548 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: Bachelor to Kayla Quinn then uh from uh our season Bachelor? 549 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah of our season of the Bachelor react and said 550 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: after forty seasons of The Bachelor, today's news is a 551 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: momentous step forward as Matt James was just announced as 552 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: the first black Bachelor. It makes me feel so proud 553 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: to be a part of this Bachelor family that listens 554 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: and stands up for representation. Literally just heard the news 555 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: and want to shout it out from the rooftops. I 556 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: want to applaud, not only Bachelor ABC for taking action, 557 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: but also the hard work from Bachelor Diversity for getting 558 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: eighty five thousand signatures that advocates for change. As a 559 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: daughter of biracial parents, watching cross cultural diverse love unfold 560 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: feels deeply personal and inclusive. I have heard wonderful things 561 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: about this handsome man of faith who is generous and kind. 562 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: That is from Kayla Quinn and I touched on Rachel's 563 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: response earlier, saying that you know, basically she was hoping 564 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: that she hopes that this is not just a new 565 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: jerk reaction to the movement. So we're going to roll 566 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: the clip that Rachel posted on her Instagram story to 567 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: be very clear. And I can't believe I actually have 568 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: to explain myself on this. I am happy that Matt 569 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: James is the Bachelor, and I congratulated him, and I 570 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: wish him the very best and support him on this 571 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: new journey and this new venture for him. But at 572 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: the same time, I also don't want the people, the 573 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: eighty five thousand plus people who signed the petition to 574 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: forget what else it is that you're fighting for. That's 575 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: the only thing I'm pointing out. But I also do 576 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 1: stand by the act that I don't like how they 577 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: rolled him out. I feel like it takes away from 578 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: who he is with the timing of the announcement. I 579 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: don't think that's fair for Matt James, and I don't 580 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: think that does him justice as to what he represents 581 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: as a black man and what he can bring to 582 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: this role. Now that's all the quotes we have surrounding 583 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: Matt James. Ashley and I want to be clear, we 584 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: are jacked about Matt James being named the next Bachelor. 585 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: We think it's gonna be awesome. But again, in the 586 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: words of Mike Johnson, we haven't forgotten about you, Claire baby. 587 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: So we're excited for clear season. Still no update on 588 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 1: when and how filming will happen, but it will happen 589 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: at least. That is the most recent updates from the 590 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: Bachelor franchise. Hey, we have a really exciting rest of 591 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: the podcast for you. We're gonna start interviewing some of 592 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: the fan favorites from Caitlin Bristow season of The Bachelor 593 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 1: et which is airing Monday night on ABC. So stay 594 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: with us. We'll be back, but let's take one break. 595 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: When we come back. We have been Zorne from Caitlyn 596 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: season of The Bachelorette. Alright, guys, and now it's time 597 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: to discuss me watching my husband make out with my friend. 598 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: I keep saying this because this is a huge joke, 599 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: like how weird is it? It's so weird. But it 600 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: didn't make me feel like it didn't have any pings 601 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: of jealousy or anything like that. Okay, fine, There's one time, 602 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: and that was during their first kiss, and it looked 603 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: really good. It was a really good first kiss, and 604 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: I go, Jared, why don't you put your hand on 605 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: my face like, you know, like caressed like the whole 606 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: cheek jawline area. And he goes, I used to do 607 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: that with you. Thanks. Wow, two and half years in. 608 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: That was the only time I felt like really jealous. 609 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: It's was like Jared was such more of a reserved 610 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: guy back then. I never when I watch it, his 611 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: um politeness and how much of a gentleman he is 612 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: really shows through, which is still of course true to 613 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: this day. But I think of him as so much 614 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: more like passionate and a little bit more outspoken than 615 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: he came across on Caitlin season. You can tell that 616 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 1: he was not out of his shell yet Yeah he wasn't, 617 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean. And it's also why I think Jared and 618 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: I got along so well during that season, is you know, 619 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: he and I both were kind of fish out of water. 620 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: These other guys seem to kind of like catch on 621 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: pretty fast, including some of the guys that will be 622 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: interviewing today, But for Jared and I, there was many 623 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: times where Jared and I would sit back in the 624 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: back and just be like, I don't know what to 625 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: do right now, Like I don't know how I fit 626 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: into this. I'm sure Jared will tell you the story 627 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: when he comes on a little bit later in the podcast, 628 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: but he always remembers this time where you and him 629 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: were an a sauna for like an hour and it 630 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: was the first like you weren't miked up and your 631 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: top four and you just couldn't believe how far two 632 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: guys like you got in this competition. I'm like, oh, yeah, 633 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: to two real, two real bad guys to look at 634 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: or to have a conversation with. You guys just totally 635 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: downplay yourselves, which is totally ridiculous. I remember that. Yeah, 636 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk to you about that. That That 637 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite behind the scenes moments that 638 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: Jared and I literally sat in the steam room for 639 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: an hour just talking life. Well, actually, after watching Caitlin 640 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: season back, what do you think about these reruns and 641 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: the three hour edited versions. Are you into it? Do 642 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: you like it? I don't know. I feel like I 643 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: like them because it's fun for me as somebody who 644 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: was on the show to get nostalgic to see my friends, 645 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: just to see like where all these relationships got their roots. 646 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 1: But I also feel like, um, you don't like get 647 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: to like sink into it. It's good for taking your 648 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: ripped down memory lane, but I don't know that it 649 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: would be interesting for people who have never seen these seasons, 650 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: Like you're not going to get attached to characters. But 651 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: if you want to look back and be like, oh 652 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: my god, I remember that, I remember that so fun, 653 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: then they're great. But if you want to watch a 654 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: season and feel emotionally invested, just go on HBO, Max 655 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: or Amazon iTunes and watch the whole thing. Yeah, you 656 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: know the I'm glad they're doing it. I'm glad this 657 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: is something they've invested into to put this content out 658 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: here during this time where it's so difficult to have 659 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: new content, but it is something that Bachelor World's wanted 660 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: for a while. I mean I have heard many times 661 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 1: like I've got an emails and messages. Can they start 662 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: replaying seasons? You know, the edited version. I think you 663 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: can watch a whole season in three hours. I do 664 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: watch Caitlin's season back, and it's it's hard for me 665 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: to watch because this is why. Actually Caitlin was such 666 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: an amazing Bachelor ape and there were so many amazing 667 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: people on that season. At least I'm biased too because 668 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: I think there was so many great guys and there 669 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: is so much drama and so many storylines there aren't 670 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: able to be showed and shown that made this season 671 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: so much more unique than really any season ive ever seen. 672 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: Like there were things that were wildly dramatic in the house. 673 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: There were storylines that were really really like monumental for us, 674 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: as as contestants that were never even shown on the 675 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: big season because there wasn't enough time. So then you 676 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: cut that down to three hours, and it feels like, 677 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: can this short edited version do Caitlin Bristow justice? And 678 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 1: I don't think it can because it was so good 679 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: so often it was just the best probably the best 680 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: season I've ever watched. But you know, I'm also a 681 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: little biased because I know more of you guys. There's 682 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: more friends in that season and Chris Soul season than 683 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: I have you know, for many other season And you know, 684 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm too invested to really give it a neutral rating. 685 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: But you know it was one of the shining moments 686 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: that they did show. What's that? It was? Your sex 687 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: said class, Oh geez, it's always been one of your 688 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: favorite seasons. I know, so good, it's so funny. That was. Yeah, 689 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: there's so much to that. We'll talk about that here 690 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: just a little bit, Ashley. We promised it. So let's 691 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: start bringing on these contestants. We've got Ben Zorne from 692 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: Caitlin Bristow season of The Bachelor at Welcome to the podcast. beIN. 693 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: What's up guys, Well, you were the man on Caitlin 694 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: season that sent my husband to the emergency room. Let's 695 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: talk about that boxing date. How Jared's very proud still 696 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: that he like got up to the finals and he 697 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: was boxing you, somebody who has a lot of size 698 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,439 Speaker 1: on him. What did you do to like you knock 699 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: him in the head? Was that the rules? It was 700 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,959 Speaker 1: like the first day pretty much the first or second 701 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 1: day that we all met each other. So just getting 702 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: in the ring with everybody was was was wild. I mean, 703 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: I never thought that I'd be in the ring with 704 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: with Jared and all that stuff. I mean, usually we're 705 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: in different weight classes so the fact that we were 706 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: in there together was kind of funny. But um, I 707 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: feel terrible because I mean, like I said, I just 708 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 1: met Jared at that point and like his only concussion. 709 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: I don't want to fight this guy. I like this guy. 710 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: But now it was fun. It was a lot of fun. 711 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: I remember that day. Uh. I also got knocked out 712 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: pretty good on that day too by Jared. Actually, Um 713 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: took a nicer right hook to the to the chin. 714 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: Then what's your feelings leading up to this week knowing 715 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: that Caitlin's season was gonna air? Um, honestly, I was excited. Man. 716 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: H This was a point in my life that I 717 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: looked back very fondly of. You know, it was very 718 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: memorable for me. Um. I made so many great friends 719 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: from the show, and so looking back, you know, it's 720 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: it's gonna be kind of cool to Uh. It was 721 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: kind of cool to see everything and see everything unfold again. 722 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: Did your fiance feel weird that, like America was gonna 723 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: watch you be romantic with another girl? She was. She 724 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: was a little weird at first, but then she I mean, 725 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: she saw this season, so it's not like it was 726 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: anything new that she was seeing. Um. I think in 727 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: the beginning she was a little uncomfortable, but now she 728 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: knows Caitlin. They're good friends. Uh, and so it ended 729 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: up being totally fine. She was, she was fine with it. 730 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: So funny. Did you guys get it was your wedding 731 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,919 Speaker 1: affected by COVID? Oh? Yeah, we were supposed to get 732 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: married on July twenty and now, um, were actually end 733 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: up pushing the next year. We don't have a date 734 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: set yet, but um, but we're gonna We're gonna end 735 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: up pushing the next year. I'm so sorry. That sucks. Yeah, 736 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people have been affect 737 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: to buy it, and we're just one of the many. 738 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: Well we you know, as we saw, we didn't get 739 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: to see a lot of you on Caitlin's recap show. Uh. 740 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: And we've talked to you a couple of times since then, 741 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: and especially at our live podcast in San Francisco. You 742 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: are engaged you were supposed to be married here in 743 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: the next month and a half. You're not doing that. 744 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: But one thing we uh we missed the recap show 745 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: is just how much of a connection you and Caitlin 746 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: had and then you really chose. Uh, you know, you 747 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: haven't participated in too much Bachelor esque stuff since then. Yeah, 748 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: if you can look back on this time, going back, 749 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, four and a half years ago, what what 750 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: were the feelings like entering into this Night one? Because 751 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 1: I kind of felt like the Night one. I kind 752 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: of felt like I was going to Night one as 753 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,439 Speaker 1: Caitlyn season was about the arrogant. Yeah, no, I agree, Um, 754 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean going to Night one, I was. I was nervous, 755 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: I was sweating bullets. I didn't really know to expect 756 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: at that point. I hadn't really seen too many seasons 757 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: of it, um, but uh, it was definitely something that Um, 758 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: I was just excited to see what happened, you know, 759 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: I was just excited to go for it. And you know, 760 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: they didn't really show too much of of my connection 761 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 1: with Caitlin. But it's one of those things where it's 762 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: you feel like your connection with with the with the 763 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: main lead. Um, you have a certain way that you 764 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: feel about that person, and she doesn't really tell you 765 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: how she feels, and so, um, I felt like we 766 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: had a good connection. Um I felt like everything was 767 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: was great at the point when I got set home, 768 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: which I was a little bummed about. But looking back 769 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: on it again, you can definitely tell that she had 770 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: song or connections with some of the other guys, you 771 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,280 Speaker 1: being one of them. Um, But it was definitely Uh, 772 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: It's definitely something I looked back on finally, and I 773 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: had just had a blast with everybody, including Caitlin. What 774 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: shook me watching it back way more than it did 775 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: when it originally aired was the fact that there was 776 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: two bachelorettes. It's just so almost some a misogynistic. It's 777 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: so crazy that that we were all. I know that 778 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: some people weren't okay with it, but I just feel 779 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: like there would be outrage that that happened today, just 780 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: five years later. Who did you guys vote? But that 781 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 1: that being said, what did you guys vote for? M 782 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: I voted for for Caitlin. Um I had a I 783 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: think I've talked about this before on Your Guys Show, 784 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: But um, I had a great connection with uh with 785 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: britt right off the bat. We had a great conversation, 786 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: but I just felt like there was more depth to 787 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 1: Caitlin and I was excited to learn more about Caitlin. 788 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: So that was intriguing to me. Ben, you voted for 789 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: Caitlin too, I did. I went into it actually very interested. 790 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: Uh in um Britt. I really thought that she was 791 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,879 Speaker 1: going to be it, And after like ten minutes, which 792 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: is wild with each of them, I was just more 793 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: and more convinced that Caitlin was going to be somebody 794 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: who I be able to get to know easier. I 795 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: felt like our conversation flowed. I felt like she was funny. 796 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: I felt like she was kind of a it's for 797 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, like one of the producers 798 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: before the night one was like, Hey, in this process, 799 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,240 Speaker 1: one of the beautiful things is you can take risks, 800 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: like you can date somebody that you typically wouldn't date. 801 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: And Caitlin was that for me, and I'm really glad 802 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: that happened. I think Britt would have been amazing. But 803 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: I did vote for Caitlin based on just that ten 804 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: minute first conversation that we had. Yeah, I agree, I 805 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: mean that's kind of all you have to go off. 806 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 1: At that point, you really are going off a ten 807 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: minute conversation and trying to figure out who you want 808 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 1: to date. Caitlin asked me the the other day, Ben, what 809 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: was the most awkward memory from her season on the 810 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: Bats ry. I know mine. Mine was my entrance. I 811 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: literally said two words like I couldn't even speak. I said, 812 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: nice to meet you, and by and I mean that's 813 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 1: how I mean, that's exactly how it went down. What 814 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: was your most awkward memory? Who? Um? I think my 815 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 1: entrance was probably just as bad as yours. I don't remember. 816 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: I remember walking in the walking in the door and 817 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 1: being like, all right, well I'm getting sent home. I 818 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: made a fool of myself. Um. For me, it was 819 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: um awkward. Probably wrapping on stage. I think I battled. 820 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: I rapped battled Tanner on stage in New York City, 821 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: and I was I don't think I've ever felt more 822 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: like a fish out of water in my life. I 823 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: can't imagine Tanner wrapping. And I don't think they showed 824 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: it this time around either. Probably for the best, definitely 825 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: for the best. Well, hey, Ben, you're the man. I 826 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on here. Ashley and I have always 827 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,760 Speaker 1: been big fans of years, We wish you the best 828 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: with your upcoming wedding. I know it's not ideal, but 829 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,720 Speaker 1: thanks for taking some time in joining us here today 830 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 1: to talk to us and everybody out there listening. Of course, man, 831 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Love you guys, and I'll be 832 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: seeing you guys at the wedding when we were schedule. 833 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 1: We'll see then see you guys up next. We have 834 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: somebody who is charming, lovable. Uh. He and Caitlin just 835 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: had some amazing moments, some really passionate kisses. Uh. It's 836 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 1: it's it's our one and only. Ashley's husband, Jared. Jared, 837 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: come on that almost famous podcast how is everybody doing? Hello? Well, 838 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: when you were waiting for you to get on, we 839 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: were talking about how crazy it was that Britt and 840 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,879 Speaker 1: Caitlin ver two bachelorettes together. And I'm thinking about how 841 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: normal rejection on the show feels, which is like one 842 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: handsome man or one beautiful woman who you've developed feelings 843 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: for is rejecting you in front of the nation. But 844 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,399 Speaker 1: with Britt, she had a vote of like thirty men 845 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: who voted against her. Like that is far more heartbreaking, 846 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: and it's going to affect your self esteem way more. 847 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: Can you believe? Can you believe that we did this? 848 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: Oh you're asking me to comment on that? Damn all right? Uh? 849 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 1: I mean not all thirty guys voted against her. From 850 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: from reading the room, it was probably Caitlin. And also 851 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: it was stupid. You have to h incredible women, you know, 852 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: both beautiful, smart, both like out of almost all of 853 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: our leagues, and like we're supposed to vote on the 854 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: girl that we want to date. It was the stupidest 855 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: thing I've ever had to endure, which I guess says 856 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: you know that I'm very lucky in life. But it 857 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: was just it was ridiculous. This was before Bachelor in 858 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: Paradise was like a thing like this wasn't bachelor going 859 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: on Bachelor in Paradise wasn't like a coveted position. I'm 860 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: wondering if it was more so leading up to that, 861 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: whether it would just be like or Caitlin would have 862 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,280 Speaker 1: just been like, no, no, I don't want to battle, 863 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 1: I'll just go on Bachelor in Paradise. No, you always 864 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: want to be the bachelor. If if producers were like, hey, 865 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: you have a out of being bachelorette, you take it. 866 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,479 Speaker 1: I mean, it just they shouldn't have had two girls 867 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 1: be a bachelorette. It hasn't aged well. I think the 868 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: show would agree with that. And that's all I gotta say. 869 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: Oh you know who I voted for it by the way, 870 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: nice Shirrett. Do you just get off? And he voted 871 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,439 Speaker 1: for Britt as he's did you? Yeah, as you stayed 872 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: in the episode. He looks like he just golfed. I'm jealous. 873 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: Uh what was I saying, Oh, Brett, Yeah, I voted 874 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: for Well listen, like I said, it was just talk 875 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 1: about what you said on my Instagram today. Uh, it 876 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: was just like I said, I mean, you're voting for 877 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,760 Speaker 1: two incredible women. And then I would talk to Caitlin 878 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: and she was awesome, and I would talk to Britt 879 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 1: and she was awesome, and it was just like I 880 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: walked into the room. And then the reason I voted 881 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 1: for Britt was because before the show started, I felt 882 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: like I would have more of a connection with Britt, 883 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: and then ironically, when I met them both, I had 884 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: more of a connection with Caitlin. So like that, and 885 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: I was going back and forth. Then I was like, well, 886 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 1: I guess I'll go with my initial reaction, which was 887 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,399 Speaker 1: stupid because I went off my reaction before I met 888 00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: them in person. Brett was also so your type stereotip 889 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,359 Speaker 1: quick like, that was your safe spot, your comfortable zone. Yeah, 890 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: that's a first statement, Jared. Let's flash through this season, 891 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: which was Caitlin's season. We had talked about early on 892 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 1: and we hitted at it. We've brought it up on 893 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,479 Speaker 1: the podcast before, but one of my favorite memories from 894 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: our time of the Bachelorette was you and I were 895 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 1: the final four. The other two men were away. You 896 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: and I had access to a steam room. We also 897 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,720 Speaker 1: knew that cameras and audio equipment cannot make it into 898 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 1: the steam room, so we went in there to have 899 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 1: a conversation, one of the first real conversations we could 900 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,919 Speaker 1: have in a long time. We sat in this room 901 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 1: for no less than an hour talking about how wild, 902 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 1: absolutely wild, this last few months have been. Our listeners 903 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,720 Speaker 1: out there probably wondering, like, what did this mean to you, Jared, 904 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 1: to be in a steam room for an hour with me? 905 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: What was like? Well, I think you and I bonded 906 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: in that moment because both you and I were on 907 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: the same page from the very beginning. Which was what 908 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: the hell is going on? And what are we doing 909 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 1: right now? And what's about to happen? And then you know, 910 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 1: as you guys know, you're always miked up. You're always 911 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 1: on camera, even when you know a lot of things 912 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 1: don't get aired, but you're still on camera. And so 913 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: this was the first time where Ben and I really 914 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: were not miked up, not on camera, and just able 915 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,359 Speaker 1: to actually talk about things we were afraid to say 916 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 1: on camera, which was, Okay, what's going on? Are like? 917 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: Because you know, you're always like, oh no, I'm I'm ready, 918 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm fully invested. And while you are and 919 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: Ben and I were, it was also at the same 920 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: point like are we ready? Are is this? Are we 921 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,800 Speaker 1: good to go? Are are we making the wrong decision? 922 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: This is happening so fast? Um? And so that was 923 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 1: like the first time you and I were able to 924 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: just like really say that and feel comfortable saying that. 925 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 1: It was like therapy. Plus, you know, for all the 926 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: listeners out there, I got to see Ben in his 927 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,720 Speaker 1: boxer's sweat. I'm sure that was a very nice image 928 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 1: for a lot of women out there. Uh, it was. 929 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: It was a good time. That was one of my 930 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: favorite moments. It really was mine too, No, it was, 931 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: and you're right. I remember looking at you being like, hey, 932 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 1: I think I'm ready to get engaged, but yeah, am 933 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,319 Speaker 1: I crazy? Like? But we we were like, do you 934 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: know Caitlin has been a name? Because I don't. I 935 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 1: do remember that. That's actually sad uh, Jared, I've always 936 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,479 Speaker 1: appreciated the way you've handled humor and humility. It wasn't 937 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: able to be shown on the recap show, but as 938 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,919 Speaker 1: much as it should have been. But when it came 939 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: to Caitlin, do you feel like your connection with her 940 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 1: was a lot because she's always made us lap. Do 941 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: you feel like it was a lot of the laughing 942 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:50,720 Speaker 1: back and forth, uh, kind of more humorous connection. Yeah, 943 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 1: oh absolutely, And thank you for saying that. Bro. You know, 944 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 1: I feel the exact same way towards you and Ben. 945 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: You're someone I've definitely looked up to since the day 946 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,280 Speaker 1: I met you. But going to Caitlin, Yeah, our action 947 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: was definitely more. Well, there was romance, it was a 948 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: romantic relationship. It was far more based in friendship because 949 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 1: we would just laugh constantly. And I remember before the 950 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 1: rose ceremony where I got sent home the cocktail party 951 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 1: was canceled that night, and I remember before the cocktail 952 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: party got canceled, I was like, I really need to 953 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 1: talk to Caitlin because every time we hang out, we 954 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 1: never talked about the future or like marriage or kids. 955 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: Were always just present in the moment and laughing, which 956 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,399 Speaker 1: is a good sign. But also I'm'm not sure how 957 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 1: I feel about it, Like I feel like I need 958 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 1: to be like, hey, is this something that's gonna last? 959 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 1: Uh so, Uh, I agree with you. Was definitely a 960 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: rooted in friendship, and I do wish that I could 961 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: quote Dumb and Dumber with him like Caitlyn did. It's 962 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 1: my it's my fall back. It's it's it's the only flow, 963 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: like major flow in our relationship. You don't get my humor, 964 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: and it makes me sad. Like I quote Billy Madison, 965 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,800 Speaker 1: I quote Happy Gilmore, Dumb and Dumber Anchorman and A 966 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: She's like, what the hell are you talking about anchor 967 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 1: man quotes? You get my incorment quotes. Sometimes it's pretty good. Yeah, 968 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 1: I don't watch boy movies. I'm silary Jared. We asked 969 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 1: Ashley this earlier if it was awkward for her to 970 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: be married and watch her husband make out with her friend. 971 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 1: I want to ask you the same question. Is it 972 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 1: awkward for you to watch yourself make out with your friend? Now? 973 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,399 Speaker 1: It was kind of awkward to watch everybody make out 974 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: with each other, you know, because like I saw you 975 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 1: make out with her, and I'm like, it's like, it's 976 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 1: like watching your friends make out, you know how, Like 977 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: you're at a party and your your two friends that 978 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: you've been friends with for years, like drunkenly make out 979 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, that's just weird to see visually. 980 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: And it was the same thing here because we've been 981 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 1: through so much history now, like watching myself with Caitlin, 982 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: you with Caitlin even like it wasn't that weird with Nick, 983 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: I guess, but um, like Cupcake and it like I guess, 984 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 1: we didn't see t Order Tanner kissed her at all. 985 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,919 Speaker 1: I don't know they did. He did, he did, they said, 986 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 1: he said they never aired it. Um, but it was 987 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,800 Speaker 1: definitely like worse watching myself kiss Caitlin with Ashley because 988 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: she because you put your your hand on her cheek, 989 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,760 Speaker 1: and you don't do that to me anymore. I do sometimes, 990 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 1: not as much as I used to, But you know, 991 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 1: it's you know, we're married for almost a year. Oh, 992 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: I'll put the hand there. You know that. I like that. Listen. Um, 993 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 1: what if Chris souls this season was airing, you had 994 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 1: to watch my sloppy kisses with him? Would that make 995 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 1: you feel weird? You just laugh? I think it would 996 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: definitely make me cringe where you like, wasn't your thing 997 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,840 Speaker 1: with kissing Chris, Like you swallowed his mouth or something like? Yes, Jared, 998 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 1: I don't know it was. They were. They weren't the 999 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 1: most attractive kisses, but I really got a downpat with 1000 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 1: you in Paradise. Those were not Yeah, those weren't awkward 1001 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: at all. So I give myself a lot of credit 1002 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 1: for that one. Well, Jared, Uh, I love you. Ashley 1003 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,240 Speaker 1: obviously loves you. Uh. It was really fun to watch 1004 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 1: you back and to see you shine once again. Thanks 1005 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 1: for coming on here, Thanks for catching us up on 1006 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: everything going on in your life. But once again, man, 1007 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: it was I watched this season and I'm I watched 1008 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: this season back. I've been looking at pictures today just 1009 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: uh of the season to reminisce on it all. And Uh, 1010 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: it's it's incredible that the people that you meet through 1011 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: this experience along the way, and it made me have 1012 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 1: a sense of joy about the show that I've always felt, 1013 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 1: but it's turned more into like a memory for me. 1014 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 1: But reminiscing on this made me smile because of the 1015 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 1: pictures of you and I and our friendship. So I 1016 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you, buddy, and thanks for coming on here, dude. 1017 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, I have. The feeling is absolutely mutual. 1018 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: Mutual love you, buddy, Like it's cool, uh for quickly, Yeah, 1019 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 1: just like when you think back where it all started, 1020 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 1: and now like Ben, you're someone that spoke at mine 1021 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: and Ashley's wedding, uh and obviously you know Nick. Who 1022 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 1: would have thought Nick would have at the wedding and 1023 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 1: and delivered a speech during our ceremony and like, good god. Um, 1024 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: So it's pretty incredible. Love you too, buddy, Love you, 1025 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 1: Love you my wife, love you my husband. Thanks Jared, 1026 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 1: one of our friends. He was also Ashley and Jared's wedding. 1027 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: One of my favorite people from Caitlin Bristow's season and 1028 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 1: one of Ashley's favorite people as well, and also I 1029 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 1: think one of Caitlin's favorite it's Chris, doctor Chris Strandberg. 1030 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the almost famous podcast. Great to be here, Chris, 1031 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 1: I need to come in and visit you because I 1032 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: think I need INVISI line. Actually, actually, your teeth are perfect. 1033 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: That's a conversation for another time. One of the most 1034 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 1: disappointing things about This Bachelor Greatest Season's ever episode was 1035 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: that they didn't show you rying kind of hysterically on 1036 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: a cliff. I can't believe it was the best TV 1037 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 1: ever made. I'm on a cliff, tears of sadness, a 1038 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: puddle of disappointment underneath my face, and they didn't show it. 1039 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 1: And you had to watch Caitlin, uh take off in 1040 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: that helicopter. Yes, and you were stranded there on that cliff. 1041 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 1: I was stranded there on the cliff, so stranded because 1042 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: they were filming it. They actually had a second helicopter, 1043 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 1: but I couldn't take either helicopter home, so I just 1044 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 1: watched my hopes and dreams fly away. Wait. This is 1045 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: a funny thing, though, because people don't understand this about 1046 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 1: the show, and it's a question we could ask a lot. 1047 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 1: So it is true. Caitlin did fly away on a helicopter. 1048 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 1: It probably took her a good hour to get back 1049 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: to the hotel. You had to then drive How long 1050 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 1: does the drive take? So I drove in the back 1051 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 1: of a small van and it took three and a 1052 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: half hours. You know that the exactly that happened to 1053 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 1: me in the bad Lands. I watched Chris leave and 1054 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, once I recovered from the dumping, Um, 1055 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: I go, okay, so where's our helicopter? Right, They're like, 1056 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: oh no, the van is years and it was a 1057 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: three hour drive back. Yours was even more desolate than mine. Actually, 1058 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 1: at least you got to see the beauty that was Ireland, right. 1059 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 1: It was gorgeous. It's always one of the it's like, uh, 1060 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 1: it is one of the sad parts. Is it really 1061 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 1: is like a really sad moment and then like reality 1062 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 1: hits you and you go crap, Like I could be 1063 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 1: eight hours from any type of civilization or any airport, 1064 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 1: and the lead who just dumped me is flying high 1065 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 1: through the sky and we'll be back in no time 1066 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 1: for dinner. Chris. We do remember this crying scene. And 1067 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: just because we didn't get to see a lot of 1068 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 1: you on the recap didn't mean that you didn't have 1069 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: a big part in this season. You were in shambles. 1070 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 1: Friend about this breakup? How long did that last? After? Like, 1071 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 1: how long did your feelings for Caitlin Linger I was 1072 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 1: in shambles. I would say that the the feelings for 1073 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 1: King Kate lingered about two weeks and then I got 1074 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,440 Speaker 1: back and I was like, you know what, I know 1075 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 1: who the winner is going to be, and that's the 1076 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 1: right match. At at the moment, Caitlyn and I were 1077 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 1: just friends. When you're wrapped up in the bachelorette world, 1078 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: every you know, all the emotions are riding high, but 1079 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 1: you're also isolated, and so this becomes your one central focus. 1080 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: When you get back to reality, you're like, wait a minute, 1081 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm okay, right, okay. You made a grand introduction though 1082 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: with the cupcake car. That really will be in bachelor 1083 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 1: montages for the rest of the show's broadcast whenever that 1084 01:01:55,480 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 1: may be right. Talk to us lasting and depression. Talk 1085 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 1: to us about how the idea came about to have 1086 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 1: you being a cupcake car. Well, my whole thing was 1087 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 1: how are people going to find me interesting on this show. 1088 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm a dentist, and to me, that's something that most 1089 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 1: people kind of dread going to the dentist and he's 1090 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 1: probably some guy who's pretty nerdy, which is true, but um, 1091 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 1: I needed to stand out, So what's better than to 1092 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 1: think of a bad like dental. So I decided to 1093 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 1: do something quote very sweet for Caitlin and at the 1094 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,320 Speaker 1: time for it, which was to roll up in a cupcake. 1095 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 1: And uh, I thought that that was going to be 1096 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 1: the end of it. But then, of course Tanner decided 1097 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: to start calling a cupcake and then it's stuck all 1098 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,960 Speaker 1: the way to five years later. I know I kill 1099 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 1: that because, like, we know that you don't like being 1100 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 1: called cupcake, and yet it's what I call you. It's okay, 1101 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, I understand. I'm blessed and grateful that I 1102 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 1: got to be a part of the experience. I got 1103 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 1: to meet the perfect Ben and I have friends. So 1104 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,840 Speaker 1: if that's my name, then so be it. Man, it 1105 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 1: is it is wild to look back on this. We've 1106 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 1: been talking to Ben Zorn and Jared and then myself 1107 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 1: kind of about this this season, and I asked Jared 1108 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 1: the same question, is it weird looking back now after 1109 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 1: the recap has aired and seeing the pictures that have 1110 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 1: kind of surfaced from the contestants, what are your emotions 1111 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 1: like looking back on this time in your life, it 1112 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 1: was I mean it's serious nostalgia. I mean that was 1113 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 1: a time when we all took a break from our 1114 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 1: phones and from reality and we were just present and 1115 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,200 Speaker 1: we were up against this adventure. We had no idea 1116 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 1: what it would amount to. You know, Instagram was not 1117 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 1: really a part of the show until you know, probably 1118 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,240 Speaker 1: actually season and then our season. We're the first kind 1119 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 1: of era. So really it was just a special time. 1120 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:57,720 Speaker 1: We made friends, we got to go on with this 1121 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 1: crazy adventure, and for me it was all positive. I 1122 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 1: mean I didn't partake in much of the drama. Then 1123 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 1: I don't think you really did either, so you probably 1124 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 1: just had a all positive experiences during the filming. So Chris, 1125 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, didn't end up with Caitlin, became really good 1126 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 1: friends with Caitlin, cleaned Caitlyn's teeth many times. Um. But 1127 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 1: now has found another love in his life. And you've 1128 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 1: been with her for almost two years now, huh yeah, 1129 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 1: coming up on two years, um back and I've been 1130 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 1: dating for year and a half, almost two years, So 1131 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,560 Speaker 1: it's been great. She's a a wonderful person, really just 1132 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 1: a positive kind heart, and you know it's with opening 1133 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 1: my gental practice. It's been kind of like tough, working 1134 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 1: a lot, but she's always been very supportive and I'm 1135 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: very grateful for Well, Chris, We're happy for you, man. 1136 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 1: It's always good to see that smiling face. Years still, 1137 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 1: in my opinion, the best looking man to ever come 1138 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 1: through the Bachelor franchise. Dr Chris Strandberg, thank you for 1139 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 1: joining us on the Almost Famous podcast. We look forward 1140 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 1: to talking to you soon. That's funny that you say that, Ben, 1141 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 1: because I feel like Cupcake is definitely the person that 1142 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,920 Speaker 1: Jared holds as like the standard of good looking in 1143 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 1: the franchise. He's She's like that guy is really good looking, 1144 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 1: but like, is you better looking than Cupcake? And then 1145 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 1: it's always a debate he's such a good looking dude. Well, actually, 1146 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,640 Speaker 1: this has been nothing but fun for me to see 1147 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 1: friends and to reminisce with friends. Uh. It's always great 1148 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 1: to celebrate really awesome people. And this week we are 1149 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:45,400 Speaker 1: celebrating Caitlin Bristow because I think she is a terrific human, 1150 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 1: a terrific bachelorette. And we can't leave this podcast without 1151 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 1: saying congratulations to Caitlin because at the end of this episode, 1152 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,919 Speaker 1: we find out that Caitlin Bristow is getting her dream. 1153 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it really has been her dream and she's built, 1154 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 1: she's made for it to be on Dance with the Stars. 1155 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 1: She's totally made for I am so excited. How fun 1156 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 1: was it to watch her reaction and how sweet Jason 1157 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 1: was responding as well, he just knows it's her dream, 1158 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,840 Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm super stoked. It's it's a huge deal. 1159 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,480 Speaker 1: She's going to do great. I mean she is a 1160 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,920 Speaker 1: professional dancer. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. Good for Caitlin. 1161 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 1: Four and a half five years later, Caitlin Bristow is 1162 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,160 Speaker 1: still at the top and we have nothing. We just 1163 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 1: want to celebrate that here. So hey, oh to Caitlin 1164 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: Bristow this week. Great men on her season. They were 1165 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 1: just a terrific friendships that were built. But with that, 1166 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,280 Speaker 1: this has been the Almost Famous podcast and I've been 1167 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 1: been and I've been Ashley. We'll be back doing a 1168 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 1: live podcast with you guys next week. Hope to see 1169 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 1: you there. All The love by All followed the Benn 1170 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,240 Speaker 1: and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or 1171 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 1: subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.