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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: Ten toes ten toes.

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Speaker 3: We was out on that road, uh, looking for love

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Speaker 2: We was supposed to a stove.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, shell jewels, share clothes. That's how deep the shit goes. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Every week you got bros. All of y'all fake closed. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: y'all switch aside like NBA teams. Just after halftime, I'm

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Speaker 2: I don't even have time.

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Speaker 3: He caught me a Porsche with the butter Scott seats

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Speaker 3: this fo they have meals, live better than rappers and

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Speaker 2: That's real, bar emriya BM.

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Speaker 3: As soon as he came home, he hopped on the

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Speaker 2: It's game on. Ty Mama died. I was there. My

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Speaker 3: He was there, he and my house more than I

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Speaker 3: Breezy there, Juan there, Hi there, Chaka dad low Dare

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Speaker 3: There's there, kawannad here shitting up like Levana here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Do you y'all talk around hose? Do you y'all don't

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Speaker 3: We know everything you say from niggas close to you?

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Speaker 3: You emotional? Hey, welcome to the black guy who tells

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Speaker 3: podcast your host Rod and Karen you.

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Speaker 5: Know what that's don't let me know? Did they hang

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Speaker 5: around some niggas?

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, get some black folks.

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Speaker 3: Even with all that mention money and all them trips

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Speaker 3: Right, Jay z uh still kicks it with people name

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Speaker 5: What white folks y'all know what them names?

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Speaker 2: You just? I mean, they still kick it over there.

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Speaker 3: Tossing up these softballs, letting them knock them out.

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Speaker 6: We do, thank you, so now you can judge everybody else.

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Speaker 3: This time, says TCC six one one six. Thanks Rod

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Speaker 3: for reading this. About halfway through, I push pause to

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Speaker 2: Masterpiece.

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Speaker 3: By the way, all the greats have been writing there

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Speaker 3: And it's really hypocritical to see people celebrate like musicians

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Speaker 3: It just seems like it's people doing way worse shitt

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Speaker 2: And you know, and getting your jokes off. I don't

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Speaker 3: Actually, Like somebody, I'll follow on Facebook set Lauryn Hill

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a problem with the jokes man,

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Speaker 3: Best podcast period, five stars, y'all bone eight, says Pastor

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Speaker 3: You are doing podcasts listening right if you're not listening

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for these five star reviews. I

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Speaker 2: honestly I love them me too, So we appreciate y'all

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Speaker 3: And honestly, like I said, if you listen to any podcast,

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Like, even people that don't read theirs on the air,

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Speaker 3: I guarantee they read those reviews cuz hey, it's so

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Speaker 5: Correct.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get into comments on the website. We

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Speaker 2: It was a feedback episode. It's rather long.

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Speaker 3: If I remember Yes two and a half hours and

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Speaker 5: We had a lot to say.

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Speaker 3: It was back in our bag over here your old school. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we got three comments. Let me scroll down and when

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Speaker 3: Rod and Karen, Okay, why did I start crying like

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Speaker 3: Then when Rod read his response, I almost had to

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Speaker 3: In today's like environmental, like disposability, and motherfuckers just are

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Speaker 2: I am gonna block out everything, you know.

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Speaker 3: It has kind of made it to where people don't apologize.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's ever wrong, nobody ever can say, hey, I was

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Speaker 2: No hard feelings. I didn't mean da da da. Like

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Speaker 3: It's a lot more like I said what I said,

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Speaker 2: I made a joke on my Facebook page.

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Speaker 3: I was like, now, when you disagree with somebody, it

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Speaker 3: I don't I just don't want to see you anymore.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to comment, I don't want to like,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to share. We could be best fucking

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Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about some shit like about someone's humanity,

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Speaker 3: So it's just you know, to have somebody right into

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Speaker 3: They normally double down, and you know, it was cool

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Speaker 5: Correct.

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Speaker 3: Brook says, y'all are my cool auntie and uncle in

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Speaker 3: my head. So when you say you love each other

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Speaker 2: Then Rod had to throw me off. Lol. I appreciate

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot what I did at the end of

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Speaker 3: it might have been when I did the deja I

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Speaker 2: Cat thing move.

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Speaker 5: Something happened and you threw me off.

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Speaker 3: Casey call On ten says, I was on the plane

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Speaker 3: where Rod found out how to pronounce Jeremy and I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still Jeremy to me.

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Speaker 3: or love You m that seems so long ago, doesn't

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Speaker 5: And Internet? Internet moves like dog years.

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Speaker 6: That shit booze like every time a second past like

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Speaker 3: Also in my private life, love is come a verb.

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Speaker 3: be like, oh my god, girl, did you see this?

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Speaker 3: just loveing. I don't know what's wrong with him, and it's.

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Speaker 2: Just so, it's just it's so good. It's so good.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, sixty six percent of y'all think Nicki Minaj had

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Speaker 2: You ever heard that?

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Speaker 5: I don't, I don't. I don't know where I be.

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Speaker 2: Okay interview.

447
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 3: It was something she has her own radio called The

448
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 3: Queen Something. Yeah, it's on like Apple or something. But

449
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 3: the I mean that clip.

450
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: Has been.

451
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 3: Has been circulating for a while and people like even

452
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 3: took they even took like cartoons and dubbed them over

453
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Speaker 3: with her voice.

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Speaker 2: One of them is is Steven Universe.

455
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Speaker 3: I forget what the name of that that that stone

456
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Speaker 3: was that came that gem that lapists had to combine

457
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Speaker 3: with to make it go into the ocean.

458
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Speaker 5: Oh what was her name? Oh but I know you're

459
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 5: talking about. I cannot remember her name.

460
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had that and it was so good they had.

461
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,239
Speaker 3: Instead of her saying whatever she said to the to

462
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Speaker 3: the gems of Earth, she was and Nicki Minaj's to

463
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 3: freedom speech. Oh oh, Jasper, Yeah you think Harriet Tubman

464
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 3: was walking around with a nice shiny dress song with

465
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Speaker 3: the crown on her.

466
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Speaker 2: Head when she was taking slaves to freedom. She yells out,

467
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: it is it's Jasper Okay.

468
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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's like I said, it's just if I

469
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Speaker 3: can find that Steven Universe when I would.

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Speaker 2: You know, I love let me see if I can

471
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Speaker 2: find it. I hate to do this live on the air, Guys,

472
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Speaker 2: I didn't know. Karen's gonna ask me about this.

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Speaker 6: Shuh.

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Speaker 2: She is voiced by Nigga No.

475
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Speaker 3: Oh wait, it's Sugarlight really voiced by Nigga minajen in

476
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Speaker 3: real life?

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Speaker 2: Is who sugar Light? Sugar Light s U g I

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Speaker 2: l I.

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Speaker 3: T E which is Garner and Amethyst Fuse says she

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Speaker 3: voiced by Nicki Minaj on this thing.

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00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,479
Speaker 2: It's a clip from twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 5: Why I did not know that?

483
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 2: Is that for real? She really a voice actor Nicki Minaj.

484
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: I did not know that voice actress singer, rapper, songwriter

485
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 3: Nikka Tanya Mirage Calmon refer to as a stage that

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Speaker 3: nick Minaj. Yeah, she revoiced sugar Like sugar Like on

487
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 3: Steven Universe, so it's even Wow, that's crazy.

488
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Speaker 5: I did not know that. It don't not like her?

489
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 2: Wow? Oh man.

490
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 3: Anyway, I can't find this meme right now, guys. If

491
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: I find it on uh, if somebody has it in

492
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: the chat I did. I searched that it's not in

493
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 3: there because now since she's been.

494
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Speaker 2: On here, it's not easy to find.

495
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 3: Okay, But yeah, if somebody guy's a link to that

496
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: meme or that tweet.

497
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 5: That's interesting now.

498
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 3: That that ship was so good. So, but uh, let

499
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Speaker 3: me see if I can at least wait audio for

500
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Speaker 3: you for the whole statement.

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00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 5: Okay, m hmm, okay, so was that?

502
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: Thank you? Uh and I may even be able to

503
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: play some of the memes on the screen.

504
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: You think Carriot Tupman was walking around with a fucking nice,

505
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: shiny fucking dress on with a fucking crown on her

506
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: head when she was taking slaves to.

507
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Speaker 5: The freedom?

508
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 3: So yeah, like somebody did one of the decks of

509
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Speaker 3: laboratory screen, Yes, it is, oh serious, make this bigger.

510
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Speaker 1: You think Carriot Tupman was walking around with a fucking nice,

511
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: shiny fucking dress on with a fucking crown on her

512
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: head when she was taking slaves, Yes, Dex's laboratory.

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Speaker 5: That's fucking HILARI.

514
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: Is, oh man, So yeah, SpongeBob, they got one. Okay,

515
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: let's see what this one is. Oh like it got

516
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Speaker 3: Sandy the squirrel.

517
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Speaker 5: Yes, Sandy.

518
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Speaker 1: You think Harriet Tupman was walking around with a fucking nice,

519
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: shiny fucking dress one with a crown on head when

520
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: she was taking Slasherniga the water.

521
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Speaker 5: That's hilarious.

522
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Speaker 2: These are pretty good.

523
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Speaker 3: These are great the one, but I still think the

524
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Speaker 3: one with Steven Universe is the best. But that's the

525
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Speaker 3: one I can't find damn it oh on Twitter. Se

526
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Speaker 3: I retweeted it on my Twitter YouTube clear it's straight

527
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Speaker 3: off for Twitter.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

529
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Speaker 3: I'll search for it, but yeah, I do think Nikki

530
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: caught it the worst, kind of.

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Speaker 2: Let's see Stephen Stephen Universe Nikki.

532
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: Not all right, I'll see if I can find it

533
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 3: that way, but yeah, I do think Nikki kind of

534
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 3: caught it the worst. We had one comment that said,

535
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: I think Cet said I think Nikki is on the

536
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: decline and she just needs to chill until she was

537
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Speaker 3: ready to play well with others, especially Cardis, she'll continue

538
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: to fail. Yeah, she's just like it's just wild because

539
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 3: oh I did I got it, okay, But yeah, I

540
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: mean it is kind of wild because she's so she's

541
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 3: so like self destructive right now, outspoken.

542
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Speaker 2: But I mean, at the end of.

543
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Speaker 3: The day, it's not like I don't think she's gonna

544
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Speaker 3: get canceled or nothing. I just think she's just wilding

545
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: out and everybody's kind of laughing at her, you know,

546
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 3: and whenever she's ready to kind of get Back.

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00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: You think Carrie Tupman was walking around with a fucking nice, shiny,

548
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: fucking dressed on with a fucking crown on her head

549
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: when she was taking slaves.

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00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 6: That that is garnet and amethysts when they combined.

551
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my favorite one. Uh.

552
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: And I think that it's called sugar light or something

553
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: or sugar light something like that.

554
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Oh my god. Anyway, she she killed that,

555
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: all right?

556
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 3: So Freedom the fredom that's fucking hilarious.

557
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: Oh I'm gonna start hauling that out for no reason. Freedom, right?

558
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 5: So what the hell is wrong with you?

559
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

560
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: The bomb is the best part. Like she really dropped

561
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: the flex the flex bomb on it. Does she record

562
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: in the same studio as Flex?

563
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: Is that? What's happening? I don't know what the rules

564
00:27:59,560 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: with this?

565
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 3: All right, let's get into the next episode, which was

566
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Speaker 3: seventeen forty four Inconvenience Man. Okay, if I could be

567
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 3: a superhero, I would like my powers to make people

568
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 3: have to deal with very inconvenient stuff. And we got

569
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Speaker 3: what appears to be four comments on this episode. As

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00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 3: soon as they load to Freedom, all right, d Ramsey

571
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Speaker 3: pH Done says only fourteen minutes into the show with

572
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: random thought and it's already five stars.

573
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Speaker 2: Hashtag vibrating toothbrushes Eve. He says, I actually got into

574
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: an argument with someone over.

575
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Speaker 3: John McCain because I was asked if I was sad

576
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: that John McCain died, and I truthfully said no.

577
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: Then the person asked me why not.

578
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: I said, I don't think he's as great as people

579
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: are making him out to be. I appreciate his service

580
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: to the country, but I think it's a senator he sucked. Now,

581
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: mind you, I didn't volunteer this information I was. Then

582
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: I got yelled at for speaking ill of the dead.

583
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: First of all, this man opposed in MLK Holiday had

584
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: a whole bill created because he fleets a bunch of people.

585
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: He voted on the Trump's harmful policies. Yeah, any vote

586
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: on Trump's policies. Yeah.

587
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 3: He also was against the Civil Rights Act reinstatement under Bush.

588
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: People wanted to act like he was a decent person

589
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: because he told that one woman Obama isn't an Arab.

590
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: That was the absolute bare minimum. And even then he

591
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: didn't have the DC to say.

592
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with Arabs.

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Speaker 3: So because he wasn't as big an asshole as Trump,

594
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: he gets a pass.

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Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here with that. I said

596
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: what I said, come.

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00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: On, I hate when people act like they can't speak

598
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: the truth when someone dies. Because you best believe when

599
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: Trump goes, I'm gonna tap dance like Domin and Silk

600
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: at the Republican Convention.

601
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Speaker 2: Dah. I feel you, Evie, and.

602
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: I'll take it one step further even on that. The

603
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: part that's weird to me is this dude was so

604
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: harmful with his policy, but he successfully modeled himself in

605
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: the press in the late nineties early two thousands as

606
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: a maverick moderate Republican, but he voted conservative as shit.

607
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: And it shows how easy it is the fool people right.

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Speaker 6: Ask them people out there in Arizona about him. That

609
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 6: I'm brown and magitalized.

610
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: And I also said when Trump was elected that this

611
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: will effectively moved the country further to the right. And

612
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: I remember when I said that. It was it was

613
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Speaker 3: a period of time where there was a lot of

614
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: political theory, a lot of game theory, and a lot

615
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: mostly because of my circle, not because these people are

616
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: bad or anything, but from very liberal people who are

617
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: like so woke that they like didn't vote, or they

618
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 3: thought letting Trump win with shake the country up. And

619
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Speaker 3: I said, it's going to have the opposite effect. You

620
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: think it's going to push us to the left. It

621
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: is going to push us to the extreme right. And

622
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: they were like, no, that's not what's gonna happen, because

623
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: you know, people are gonna fight back and resist, and

624
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: people gonna march. Look at the streets and look at

625
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: how people already are activated. And I'm like, here's here's

626
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: the thing. Trump is so bad. He is making you

627
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: wistfully look at George Bush and wistfully look.

628
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: At John McCain.

629
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: That's how bad he is. You are now we that

630
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: tells me we have moved the country to the right.

631
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 3: You cannot that. That would not have been a conversation

632
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: if Hillary Clinton wouldn't have been elected right like we

633
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: would like, it would not be the same conversation of

634
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: what a great man John McCain. It would be more

635
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: like some people will say that because obviously death and

636
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: they're scared. But for a lot of people would be like,

637
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: he wasn't that great, you know, But it's when compared

638
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: to Trump, well, yeah, he was great, you know, And

639
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: I think that's what's happening now. And it's funny because

640
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: a lot of the people that were super hard on

641
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: Obama and still out to this day. It's like a

642
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: fucking broken record at this point, Like them niggas don't

643
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: like Obama doing anything. He does anything in public, and

644
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: they want to tell you how he's not perfect, and

645
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: not that I'm walking around thinking that the dude is perfect,

646
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: but it's like it's draining how fucking often they hit

647
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: that fucking light. But you know, drones, but you know this,

648
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: but you know that, and you're like, Trump is in

649
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: the White House partially because you kind of joined in

650
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: with the people that was like Obama ain't shit and

651
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: most of them just turned out to be fucking racist

652
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: piece of shit. Right, So you know, while you're so

653
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: dead set on getting this perfect presidential candidate that never

654
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: is gonna exist and never gonna run this country, and

655
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: no one's ever gonna run the country the way you

656
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: say it should be run, So you might as well

657
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: sit the political process out if that's what you want

658
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: to do. Like, but you know, once you get to

659
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: that point, don't expect anybody look at you like a

660
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: hero for not for sitting on your ass and not

661
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: doing shit right. So it's funny because like Obama is

662
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: giving a speech at McCain's funeral today, and there's still people.

663
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Speaker 2: That have issues with like, well, why he's there, Why

664
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: is he this? Why is he's that?

665
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, because that's what being presidential is supposed

666
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Speaker 3: to me. And he was asked months ago, he asked

667
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: in April. But the point being that's what it was

668
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: supposed to me. We can't John McCain can't. Like people went, well,

669
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: John McCain being petty, he don't want Trump at his funeral.

670
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, not just that, but Trump can't speak at

671
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: his funeral, right right? Trump can't speak.

672
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: He's not he's not capable of delivering a heartfelt, sincere

673
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: eulogy that it won't become a mockery, that won't become

674
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: all about him and his lack.

675
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: Of qualifications for the office.

676
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: It's it's it's and and and and The thing that

677
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: bothers me the most is I think Trump should be

678
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 3: in McCain's funeral because John McCain supports Trump. Even after

679
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: that man called him all those names and disrespect of

680
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: his military service, John McCain still would rather have.

681
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: Trump in office.

682
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: In Hillary Clinton, John McCain still would vote with Trump's

683
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 3: policies ninety something percent of the time.

684
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: You might as well let.

685
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: Him at your fucking funeral and do the speech and

686
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: let him dish you in his speech like he does

687
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: talk about your daughter's titties or uh, your wife being hot,

688
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 3: or how you know you weren't that good at war

689
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 3: even though he ducked, He ducked and dodge to draft himself,

690
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: Like you might as well let him disrespect you one

691
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 3: more time, piss on your grave, because in life, you

692
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 3: let him piss on your grave, and you let him piss.

693
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: On all of us.

694
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 3: So I don't feel the warm feelings people have because

695
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: it's it's fake. It's all all just people trying to

696
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: make something nice out of something that really has no

697
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: niceness in it. You know, Oh he had a family, nigga,

698
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: We all got families that ain't. That's the bare fucking

699
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: minimum of society that ain't. They ain't no good excuse,

700
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 3: you know, like he was fucked up towards a lot

701
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 3: of the people that people claim to support and love

702
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: and ourselves. So I don't feel that level of you know,

703
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: whatever it is the kumbay y'all feelings people trying to

704
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: throw into the casket with this. Dude, I don't feel them,

705
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 3: and it's okay that other people will feel them. I

706
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 3: think death fucks people up and makes people strange.

707
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 6: Right because though they like, it's something that I don't understand.

708
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we don't know what happens to us

709
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: after we die.

710
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 3: Everybody thinks they might know, they got a little hint,

711
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 3: they believe stuff, but we don't know, and so it

712
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 3: fucks people up, and they want to have good feelings

713
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 3: about death. So then they basically make it so that

714
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 3: anybody that you know, is important, quote unquote that dies,

715
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: we want to feel good about it. We want to

716
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 3: find a way that he wasn't a monster. He was

717
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 3: John McCain was a monster in the suit Man, you know.

718
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: And it is what it is. Like some politicians are

719
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: gonna come eulogize them, because that's what politicians do.

720
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: But I don't have to do that. This is not

721
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: the John McCain eulogy.

722
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: And more importantly, John like people are gonna do that

723
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: for him, whether I agree with it or not. It's

724
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: not like I'm going around arguing with people about it.

725
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: If you disagree, you just disagree. I stay on my

726
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: page about it, stay on my you know, stay in

727
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 3: this podcast about it. But yeah, you know, I'm aware

728
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: of what's happening. And you know, when Dylan Ruth dies,

729
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 3: a lot of the people that claim you can't say

730
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: nothing bad about dead people are not gonna be saying

731
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: that shit when he dies. So they're clearly, you know,

732
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: kind of pigging and choosing. I just think we have

733
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 3: a different bar for what I consider to be a

734
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: decent politician or man, or person or whatever. And that's fine,

735
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: because there's gonna be people when Obama died. They're gonna

736
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: tap dance on his grave and talk shit about him.

737
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 2: And they're not all gonna be racist Republican.

738
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a lot of people that you know,

739
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 3: you would think you have a lot in common with

740
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 3: politically and shit, and you're gonna find out you actually don't,

741
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 3: because they have taken, you know, a picture of him

742
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: that you would probably think, well, that's the harshest way

743
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: to receive what he has done in office and in power.

744
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: And they're gonna shit on him, and you need to

745
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: get prepared for that. You know, people need to be

746
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: ready for that day, because that's that's the way it is,

747
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: Like we don't own each other, and nobody owns each

748
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 3: other's opinion.

749
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: But I just thought people.

750
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: Either were being fake when he was alive with all

751
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 3: the look at this motherfucker caping for Trump even though

752
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 3: Trump dissed him in his family, or they caping now.

753
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: I don't know when they're lying, but I just know

754
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: it had to be a line at some point.

755
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't think you can have both.

756
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: Well, then we got two comments from this. One is

757
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: from uh, who's is from McCain is a sucker? If

758
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: Trump were nice, we're nicer in quotes, people would treat

759
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: him like McCain and Reagan, and that scares the shit

760
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: out of me.

761
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that's the truth. You know.

762
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: People would treat him like they treat George Bush. Now, yeah,

763
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: you're absolutely right. And Lee says McCain didn't like marginalize

764
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: people and voted that way.

765
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: Fuck him. Thanks Roder, Karen Lee, thank you.

766
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 8: Reed.

767
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think maybe these people wrote these comments in

768
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 3: late because the funeral's going on right now. But you know,

769
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: I don't really watch TV funerals, like I know a

770
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 3: lot of people watch Aretha Franklin's one yesterday.

771
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: It's just not my thing. So, uh, should they just

772
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: do away with the Miss America contest? Yes?

773
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 3: No or no?

774
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: But it needs some changes. What do you think, Karen?

775
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 6: What idea? And like I said, the people doing it

776
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 6: out of tradition. Now, Like, as far as I'm concerned,

777
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 6: you can get rid of I don't care you get

778
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 6: rid of it, you can keep it, do what the wrong?

779
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 7: You know?

780
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 6: I prefer you probably get rid of it, but a

781
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 6: lot of people do. With our tradition, there's a lot

782
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 6: of money behind it. You know, a lot of women

783
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 6: actually make a living, you know, off of that. So

784
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 6: I completely understand it from that perspective. But as far

785
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 6: as the age we live in, that shit is antiquated

786
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 6: as fuck.

787
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: Seventy one percent agree with you. Yes, they should get

788
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 3: rid of it. No, five percent and no, but it

789
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: needs some changes. Twenty four percent. Brooklyn Shoebe says, I

790
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: think Miss America pageant is antiquated, but I do think

791
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: it could survive with some major overhauls. It's kind of

792
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: like the young men in college who are there on

793
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: scholarship to play sports for school benefits the most in

794
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: my opinion that bodies make more money for.

795
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: The backers and boosters than the girls and the pageant. Yeah.

796
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 3: It's interesting though, because, like, I don't know what they

797
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: can overhaul to truly make it okay by today's standards.

798
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 6: Right, because it's basically you argling at a bunch of

799
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 6: fine women. That's it in my mind, Like you, well,

800
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 6: I'll take it a step further.

801
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 2: Who decides what is fine? Right?

802
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: You know?

803
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: That's the problem I think.

804
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 3: Is even if they were able to diversify everything all

805
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: the shit, the fact that they're essentially saying a certain

806
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: type of woman is beautiful and others aren't, and one

807
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 3: of these is the most beautiful.

808
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

809
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 3: It's kind of like a weird, antiquated notion, but I mean,

810
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: I guess it ain't going nowhere.

811
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: Right.

812
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 6: You're raisedly saying everybody leaves to us to white standard, period, right.

813
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 6: You know you're not going against people or different sizes.

814
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 6: You know, you barely do people to different colors.

815
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 3: Right, by nature, it just becomes about a white centric

816
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 3: viewing of beauty, even if it is even if a

817
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: personal coloring, and it's still kind of like either, it's

818
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: still kind of like, but they fit these certain standards

819
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 3: that we're okay.

820
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 6: With, right, So until you changed that, gett the fuck

821
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 6: out of his balls. I'm concerned and that's not gonna change.

822
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 6: So why are we doing this?

823
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: We have epitold epitheen.

824
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: We had episode seventeen forty five Lauren and Serena Old

825
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 3: Green thirty two says, there's really nothing left to say.

826
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: Miss Lauren Hill came through and shut it down, and

827
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: for people who feel differently, showed.

828
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: Me the lie.

829
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 3: I'm thankful she came out and set the record straight.

830
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 3: I hope folks notice that she never called anyone out

831
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: by name, nor does she get negative. She hit folks

832
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: with the fact that the fact that anyone who I

833
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 3: issued with those I can guarantee us sitting in the

834
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: choir corner on hers good on her?

835
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Like I said, man.

836
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: This shit was draining this week between between McCain, this

837
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: Laurence Hill shit, even like over the weekend with some

838
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: of that lovey shit. It's just I don't know, man.

839
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 3: I know, as black people were prick as fuck because

840
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: we've been fucked with, we all got PTSD, But like right,

841
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: some of this shit, it's just like dog what is happening? Like,

842
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: how did we get here so so vividly?

843
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: You know?

844
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 3: The woman ain't had nothing to say for twenty years.

845
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 3: It's basically like people told us, shut the fuck up,

846
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: regardless of what you have to say. And I didn't

847
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 3: find anything in it I thought was implausible or anything

848
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 3: that felt like a lot of me, you know, but

849
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 3: that I don't know, that's just me, you know. I

850
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: like some of the stuff about the show. Shit I

851
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: get while people roll their eyes at that, because I

852
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: thought I was I.

853
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 6: Mean, yeah, I mean, I mean yeah, I did too,

854
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 6: Like it's one of those things where, yeah, you need

855
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 6: to get that together.

856
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that shit was funny to me because I was like,

857
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: those were jokes I made. But she really is serious, right,

858
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 3: you know. But but like some of the stuff about

859
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 3: her music and all that stuff, I'm like, I don't

860
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 3: get why anyway whatever.

861
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: Males.

862
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: But but oh but the other thing, like with the McCain,

863
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: the way people just flipped into even black people some

864
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: of them was flipping into this he was a good man,

865
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: and like, wow, is this just a thing where like

866
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: someone hit a switching. Now everybody's brain flipped to like

867
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: we have to say this it's like, you don't have

868
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 3: to say this. You know, it's okay to object, to disagree,

869
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 3: Like it's fine to be like, I know white people

870
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: want us to romanticize this dude, but nah, he was.

871
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: Actually kind of fucked up.

872
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 3: And same thing with Oh, I know what it was

873
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: the MTV Awards when people was and fire started a

874
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 3: great segment about it, but when they were talking about

875
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: Tevin Campbell and then the Madonna shit, and it's just like, yeah, man,

876
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: like every anyway, Mel's brother Mel says two things struck

877
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: me with rg's commentary Robert Glassberg soon. The first was

878
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: that the men he named who were cool are statistical

879
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 3: outliers in terms of both output and ability, like real talk.

880
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: He named men who are.

881
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: Far greater than him in every quantifiable measure, and then

882
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: said she hasn't done enough because she isn't a statistically statistical.

883
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: Anomaly like them.

884
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: The other, yeah, he would comparing her to what most

885
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: would consider the best of the best. So he's like,

886
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: Quincy Jones wouldn't do this, and like, well, I mean,

887
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: I don't think the argument people are making is that

888
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: Lauryn Hill is Quincy Jones, right, you know, I don't

889
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: think that's what people are saying. But Okay, the other

890
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 3: thing is he never mentioned the other women he worked

891
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 3: with in terms of contextualizing what it is to work

892
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: with Men's Hill aka Queen and of this here he'll like,

893
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: dude has worked with Eric Abadu, let us see Lila Hathaway,

894
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: but didn't even put them in the rankings when talking

895
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: about people who have done enough to merit deference. I mean,

896
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: I know a lot of jazz heads are steep demisogyny

897
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 3: and patriarchy, but bruh, I can't take your argument seriously

898
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 3: if you won't even say the name of one of

899
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: the other few black women you have worked with when

900
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: talking about slash down to another black woman. And yeah,

901
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: she was reaching with that lateness equals respect line, but

902
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 3: I do totally see her side of the story. Yeah, Like,

903
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: you know, it sucked. I had to come out of

904
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: joke mode because I rather prefer the joke. But every

905
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: time I joke about this shit, motherfuckers straight up like

906
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: they always take it personal, like, and so I've stopped

907
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: kind of talking to people about it because I'm like,

908
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: how to just get personal? Like we I thought we

909
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 3: were joking, Like sometimes people joke about the Larnen Hill shit.

910
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm in for the jokes.

911
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 3: When people want to be serious about it, I can

912
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 3: get serious with it too. But when we're just joking around,

913
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: then yeah, I'm you say something, I say something. It's

914
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 3: going back and forth, and then motherfucker's be like I'm out.

915
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, well, these, I guess you don't understand

916
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: the whole.

917
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 2: Ant Hill standing for a Lauren thing.

918
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: It's that I'm gonna make these okay cool, so I

919
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 3: can't really tell. So now I'm just done joking because

920
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to, like, I'm just only gonna be

921
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 3: serious about it because I don't feel like fucking engaging

922
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: with folks that are gonna turn around and then be

923
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 3: like I was serious the whole time. I really am

924
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: upset with Laurence Hill, and I'm like, Okay, that seems

925
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: crazy to me. She's not worth being upset about that

926
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: in the way that you are measuring, you know, people

927
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: to be upset with.

928
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: It just seems weird to pick her.

929
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: Jared says, Hey, Morrows, I'm outside the US, but let

930
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: the five star review of comment on iTunes.

931
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: Hopefully y'all get it. Love this episode Jared, thanks man,

932
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 2: We'll check. We get an email every week on no.

933
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 3: Mail Sundays for five star reviews left outside the US,

934
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: so we'll check on it. Falcons Diva says on Miss Hill,

935
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: unlike the lovey letter, I was glad you read all.

936
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: On Miss Lauren Hill's response to the nonsense rod, I

937
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: officially joined the and hell, hey welcome. I am one

938
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 3: who love love loved her MTV Unplugged release. I used

939
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: to get on my friend's nerves playing that. I remember

940
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: my sister was going through some shit with her husband.

941
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 3: I told her to put I Gotta Fine Piece of

942
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 3: Mind on repeat. Dang, I had to stop it. Listen

943
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: to that again. She was so raw and vulnerable on

944
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: that release. The last time I saw Miss Hill and

945
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: live in concert, she was at an intimate venue here

946
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: in Atlanta. I don't know why, but I looked at

947
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: the reviews on ticket Master before going. This was before

948
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: social media was popping like it is today. God must

949
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 3: have told me the look. I saw that she was

950
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: starting two hours late, so my friend and I went

951
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: out for drinks, walked up in the spot right before

952
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 3: she came on stage. This spot has seas but also

953
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: a standing area. We walked right into the middle of

954
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: the crowd and had an amazing time. Lately, she's been

955
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: coming to spots that will shut it down at a

956
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: certain time, so I don't go. Plus, I am very

957
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 3: particular about stuff starting on time. If I'm sitting there

958
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: and so on, it is late, my disposition is all

959
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 3: messed up and I can't enjoy the show. The last

960
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: time I saw India Iri in concert, she pulled a

961
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: Miss Hill. When she did come out, the show was amazing,

962
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: but it took the first three songs to get my

963
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: chakras back in line. So that was the last time,

964
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: my last Indiri show. But I still love both India

965
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: and Miss Hill.

966
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 6: Yeah.

967
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 2: Like I said, man, I'm not even trying to knock

968
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 2: people that's mad about her showing up late the shows.

969
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: I really do get that, and it was jokes.

970
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: I just I can't re it rate that enough because

971
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: now paranoid, because at this point some people have seemed

972
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 3: to have taken me so seriously about the joke shit

973
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: that we've lost the ability to have a discussion about

974
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 3: what I really do feel. Are some double standards that

975
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: apply to her that I haven't seen applied to everybody

976
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: you know on Serena. I think what grinds my gears

977
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 3: the most is that those mofos intimidated that she does

978
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 3: not respect the game. I was right with Queen Karen.

979
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: She learned French for you bitches.

980
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 6: Come on, the only American that would actually be on

981
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 6: Prince TV speaking French at the fucking print open.

982
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: When she is on, it's must see TV for me.

983
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: After her Wednesday.

984
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: Night match, the on Core interviewer actually asked about her grand.

985
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: Baby, Quai Quai or is it qua Qua?

986
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: I hollered when that uptight white lady with her British

987
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 3: I think accent, said qua Qua. I get so tickled

988
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: when they post videos of Olympia at Kauai qua Serena

989
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 3: got her baby and a black baby doll and named

990
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 3: her Kauaiquai.

991
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: I love it.

992
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, she posting that baby on Instagram. It's hilarious, but.

993
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: Mil seventy three, says Karen and Rod full disclosure. Over

994
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: the past few years, I have also engaged in the

995
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 3: cloud in the lawn Hills Lateness concerts. It seemed to

996
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: be all in good fun, playfully berating people who in

997
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 3: twenty ten are actually paid money to see or perform

998
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 3: then complained about her lateness. We were all supposed to

999
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 3: know that a Miss Hill concert would start three hours late.

1000
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: The stuff from Robert Glashford was different. It seemed very

1001
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: mean spirited. It seems like he wanted to put in

1002
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: doubt the greatness of the mis education. Its greatness is

1003
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: without question. And when the score came out, I was

1004
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: still using cassette, so I wore that motherfucker out because

1005
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 3: I played it constantly. Who could forget her track on

1006
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 3: the Love John soundtrack then came miseducation all by the

1007
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 3: time she was twenty three. The only thing I excelled

1008
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: in at twenty three was chainsmoking myth all cigarettes, I

1009
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 3: know stereotypes are motherfucker. There's a meme going around that

1010
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: on one side name is a track by Beyonce, a

1011
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 3: list at of credit songwriters, and on the other side

1012
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: and names a track by Queen and list one songwriter

1013
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 3: Freddie Mercury. The implication is that Mercury is more talented

1014
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 3: than Beyonce, because presumably he didn't need a bunch of

1015
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 3: songwriters to help him make a hit. Inherent in this

1016
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: meme is the basic racist and misogynistic premise that a

1017
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: white man as far as superior artist.

1018
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: To a black woman.

1019
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 3: The simplistic narrative doesn't acknowledge the fact that all songwriting

1020
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 3: is collaborative, or that a single like Beyonce, even when

1021
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 3: working with other songwriters, is the final arbiter.

1022
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 2: Of the finished product.

1023
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, this reminds me of when Beck beat Beyonce for

1024
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 3: the Grammy, and a bunch of motherfuckers that have never

1025
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 3: listened to Beck's album were couldn't wait to tell me

1026
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 3: that Beyonce was not talented because it took more people

1027
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 3: to make a Beyonce song and Beck can play five

1028
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 3: instruments and shit like that. And I'm like, but we

1029
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 3: just talking about albums the cultural impact on the world,

1030
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 3: and you're telling me an album that essentially comparatively nobody

1031
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 3: really listened to is a Grammy winning album.

1032
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: I don't believe you, you.

1033
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: Know, I really think that, you know, it's arbitrary. What

1034
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: can we say about Beyonce to not give her the

1035
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: obvious credit because that was for the self titled album

1036
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 3: that was a game changer, And you know, so I

1037
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: don't think what is happening, what has happened to Lauren

1038
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 3: is essentially only a Lauren thing, which is why I

1039
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 3: feel that it's why I feel compelled to be like,

1040
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: we'll hold up now. People are taking this a little

1041
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 3: too far, you know, because I don't think it's just

1042
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 3: about Lauren.

1043
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: I think a lot of talented black.

1044
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 3: Women and in the era of me Too, and in

1045
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: the industry that is dominated by men that like, I

1046
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: guess to me, it's like people say shit like what

1047
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: happened to Tweet?

1048
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 2: And I'm like, men, what happened to Reese? Men?

1049
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 3: And I love that CD, Like there's all these talented

1050
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: women and people say shit like women get canceled so

1051
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 3: easily and stuff like that, and I'm like, I don't

1052
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 3: even think it's about canceling. Literally, it's an industry run

1053
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: for and by men, And if you're not a certain

1054
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 3: type of woman, they're not even fucking with you. And

1055
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 3: even if you are that type of woman that they

1056
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: claim to want, like say a Nicki Minaj, they will

1057
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: still cast you to the side because they'll never respect

1058
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: you for being that type of woman. Like they just like,

1059
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: it's a fucked up, rigged industry. And I don't think

1060
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 3: it's a meritocracy. So to see someone as vocalist Lauren

1061
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: has been about like the rigorousness and the traitorousness of

1062
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 3: the industry.

1063
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: It's weird to me to want to be like fuck you, bitch,

1064
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: not you.

1065
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 3: You don't get to say it's like, well, I mean,

1066
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 3: she might have a point, being that she is and

1067
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 3: Slash was the Lord Hill and this is what happened

1068
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 3: to her career, and she's telling you like, these are

1069
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: the things I had to do to avoid these like

1070
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 3: the avoid this industry and electriousness of it.

1071
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: And instead it's just like fuck you, I got jokes.

1072
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 7: You know.

1073
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 3: The kind of disrespect is part and part so of

1074
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: the revisionism that Glassper is attempting with that interview. Admittedly,

1075
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 3: Lauren made the mistake of engaging in the collaborative process

1076
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 3: and not laying out the turns explicitly leaving the door

1077
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 3: open for.

1078
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: The kinds of challenges she experienced.

1079
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 3: Maybe this is why when you look at Beyonce track

1080
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 3: listing everybody and that mother has a songwriting credit, she

1081
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 3: is leaving nothing to chance. Lauren made the mistake, and

1082
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: she paid the price. This should be the whole This

1083
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 3: should put the whole episode to bed. You would think

1084
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: when we talk about genius we are low to credit

1085
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 3: women in general, and Black women in particularly as geniuses.

1086
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: That little nigga named.

1087
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: Nas had one hot album, well maybe two, and has

1088
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 3: been spending bullshit for damn there twenty years. This is

1089
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 3: a lot of hot heat, right, I didn't This is

1090
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 3: with male's opinion. NAS fans do not right up to

1091
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: the show, I don't know. I did not say these things,

1092
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: and people still regard him as one of the dope

1093
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 3: zmc's alive. Nobody questions his songwriting ability or the providence

1094
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: of his great early works, even though he.

1095
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: Has yet to replicate them.

1096
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: Why can't Miss Hill be regarded the same way she

1097
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 3: should be allowed to rest on her laws. On another note,

1098
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 3: for all the French cats throwing shots of Serena, they

1099
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 3: only get half a bar. Fuck them niggas a meal. Yeah,

1100
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: here's the other thing. Drake don't even write his own shit. Drake,

1101
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 3: most people don't. Drake don't write his own shit. He's

1102
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: like the top of the game. Like it just is

1103
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 3: what it is, man. I don't think people really care

1104
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: about that. It's just something about Lauren that digs at people.

1105
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 3: And I don't know what it is exactly, and I

1106
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: haven't really seen anybody express it, because I don't think

1107
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 3: it's because she was late to a few concerts that

1108
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 3: she gets the same level of vitrioll that motherfuckers have

1109
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 3: for like a Chris Brown or some shit.

1110
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: It just don't make sense to me. I'm sorry.

1111
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 3: Gator Boy Speaks says, Nigga almost died that story about

1112
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: the camera. You said he went through the camera box,

1113
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 3: through the camera box in the trash like they would

1114
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: never like they would never look here. All I could

1115
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 3: think was that white men have been sending his computer

1116
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: jack and all since he put that camera up. He

1117
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 3: didn't want to miss a single titty. That garbage has

1118
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 3: been in his house for three months.

1119
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 8: Right.

1120
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 3: I literally couldn't see, couldn't see how I was crying,

1121
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 3: laughing so hard. And that's why fucks to child. Stay safe, fam.

1122
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 3: Thanksgating Boy speaks you. Casey Colin says, the commercial by

1123
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 3: Serena made me tear up. It's always crazy until you

1124
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 3: do it. Sometimes no one sees the vision that you

1125
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 3: have for your life. No one understands why he train

1126
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: so as hard as you do, while you sacrifice as

1127
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 3: much as you do, while you try as hard as

1128
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: you do for a pipe dream, but when the dream

1129
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 3: comes reality, they still want to knock you down. And

1130
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: for Serena to become one of the best athletes of

1131
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: our time, if not ever, and for people to continue

1132
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 3: to dispect her as an athlete, woman, parent African American.

1133
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 3: It can be so depressing, but when you are greatness,

1134
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 3: there's no time for missteps. There's no time to feel

1135
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 3: sorry for yourself or the lash out at the nay says.

1136
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: You just have to keep pushing, keep breaking boundaries, keep

1137
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: holding up your head, and keep trampling over your enemies.

1138
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 3: I cannot tell you what her last game was like,

1139
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 3: what her tennis racket look like, but I can tell

1140
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: you that her character shines through and on it off

1141
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 3: the court. I'm thankful for Serena because she gives me,

1142
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 3: an African American woman.

1143
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: So much hope for on what my future holdes.

1144
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking about that today. I remember when

1145
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 3: Richard Williams had just seen as the crazy black dude

1146
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 3: that had no business putting his daughters out there, and

1147
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 3: I remember believing that when I was in high school

1148
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 3: and part of my college I was like, oh, yeah,

1149
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 3: this dude gonna ruin his daughter's lives.

1150
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 2: He's out here on some Joe Jackson shit, you know.

1151
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: And I got out of college and I realized, like, wait,

1152
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 3: I really only heard that from white media people already

1153
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 3: in tennis that wanted me to believe that this black

1154
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: outsider and his family didn't belong and he needed to

1155
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 3: hand his daughters over to white people to instruct them

1156
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 3: how to play tennis because he could never teach them

1157
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 3: the game the right way.

1158
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: As far as they were concerned.

1159
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 3: Right, And when you see interviews with him now and stuff,

1160
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: you see how much of what people would label as craziness, devotion, delusional, whatever,

1161
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 3: you see how much of that was actually about protecting

1162
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 3: his daughters, right, because.

1163
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 6: He knew there was gonna be on some bullshit and

1164
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 6: he didn't want them to tear them up and tear

1165
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 6: them down where they could not be the women that

1166
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 6: they are today. Because I remember that showed like an

1167
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 6: interview like years ago with I don't remember Venus and Serena.

1168
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 6: One on was asking them like a question, and the

1169
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 6: way the question was phrased, it was basically trying to

1170
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 6: just basically attack her and her character, and her dad

1171
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 6: stepped in, like what you're not gonna do with this

1172
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 6: bullshit doing his goddamn interview.

1173
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 3: Right, and see, they would label him hostile and paint

1174
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 3: him as being problematic for doing shit like that, because

1175
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 3: the white people that is problematic, you know, and this

1176
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 3: is not, you know, some LeVar ballshit like I know people,

1177
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 3: you know, people would try to maybe painted as such,

1178
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 3: but it's not like LaVar Ball. People want to group

1179
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 3: it all together. But LaVar Ball sons aren't outsiders coming

1180
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 3: into a white sport and being judged and.

1181
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: Called ugly and all this shit.

1182
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: He just really believes in his sons and promotes them

1183
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 3: and stuff I'm not even you know, and believes in

1184
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 3: his shoe brand. And maybe he will be right in

1185
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: twenty years. But it's not the same battle as Richard

1186
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 3: Williams trying to get two black daughters from Compton into

1187
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 3: a very white, racist world. And I think in a way,

1188
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 3: only a father, only another black person that was that

1189
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 3: dedicated to those girls, would be able to prepare them

1190
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 3: to become Serena and Venus that we know now people

1191
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 3: that for all kinds of purposes, dominate the shit out

1192
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 3: of the competition while at least exhibiting a level of

1193
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 3: composure that is otherworldly I mean, like I said, they've.

1194
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: Called her racial slurs her entire career.

1195
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 3: The people talking about her body in negative ways and

1196
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 3: people writing about you know, she shouldn't be in swimsuit issues,

1197
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 3: and she also shouldn't take Instagram photos with her belly

1198
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 3: when she's pregnant, and she also should now keep in mind,

1199
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 3: if shriyf Pova wanted to do that, that's fine.

1200
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 2: You know, Cheri Poa could be a whole lass model

1201
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: and that's fine, that's.

1202
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 3: Just the way the game is. But Serena does it's wrong.

1203
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 3: You know, people writing about her body as if she

1204
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: has some sort of advantage that white women don't have,

1205
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: but they can't tell you exactly what. You know, saying

1206
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 3: these other women are gonna have to start lifting weights,

1207
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 3: as if she has no skills and she's just overpowering

1208
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 3: every person she plays, like nah, tennis is a game

1209
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 3: of skill too.

1210
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 2: Here's that interview when she was fourteen years old.

1211
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 9: I know I can see it very confident, very you said.

1212
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 2: Too easily, this is venus.

1213
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 9: Why can that believe?

1214
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 2: So? He said, you know you could be there? And

1215
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: then she's like, I know I could be there.

1216
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 3: He said, you're very confident why And then that's when

1217
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,959
Speaker 3: Richard turned in and it was like, hey, hey, hey, nah,

1218
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: we're not about to do this.

1219
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 6: Come on, we're not about to do this bullshit that

1220
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 6: you're doing right here, white man. You're not about to

1221
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 6: tell my daughter up on national television.

1222
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 2: Right. I don't know why the audio so long on this.

1223
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: I really should have found a better video.

1224
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 8: She said it with so much confidence first half.

1225
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: But you keep on, but we can't keep it interrupting.

1226
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 3: So he says, basically like she asked you the first

1227
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 3: time and she was confident. You don't keep going after that, like,

1228
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 3: move on to the next question, And so then the

1229
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 3: dude becomes like, hey, hey, you can't be interrupted in

1230
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 3: the interview, which makes me which leads me to believe

1231
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 3: it's only fifty second clip. This means Richard has been

1232
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 3: interrupted this interview to be like, hey, hey, no, y'all

1233
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 3: talk to my daughter this way, Hey, don't ask this question.

1234
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 3: Because the dude is annoyed with Richard's interruptions, clearly feeling

1235
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 3: some type of way about the fact that like, also,

1236
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: y'all should just be happy on a fucking interview in

1237
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 3: y'all black ass, Like I know y'all even trying to

1238
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 3: dictate how I talk to your daughter like I'm here.

1239
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: That was the whole point.

1240
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that goes in my opinion, a lot of

1241
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,959
Speaker 6: this goes to why they fucking hate them because they're

1242
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 6: so confident and they're so unapologetic.

1243
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 3: Well, also, Richard was protective, right because fourteen like no

1244
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 3: offense to any fourteen year old child, but fourteen is

1245
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 3: not really confident yet someone is molding you and building

1246
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 3: you to be the person that stay like that retains

1247
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 3: it like it is stripped out of black people so often,

1248
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 3: and especially black girls, but it's stripped out of us

1249
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 3: so often as black people, where you don't all of

1250
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 3: a sudden, it's like, you know, at some point, you

1251
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 3: don't want to be that angry black woman. You don't

1252
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 3: want to speak up, you don't want to be too loud,

1253
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,919
Speaker 3: you don't want to laugh, you don't want it's all

1254
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 3: these things that black women that are grown as adults

1255
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: have these hang ups about because at fourteen, nobody was saying, hey,

1256
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 3: don't talk to my daughter like that. She said she

1257
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 3: could beat her. What the fuck is the problem? Why

1258
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 3: we answered asking the question three four five times? I'm

1259
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 3: aware my daughter is black in a way that you aren't.

1260
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 3: And I know that these questions are not gonna stop

1261
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: with you, but I need you to stop because I'm

1262
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 3: here today and it's not you know, And until this

1263
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 3: flower has blossomed all the way, I don't want you

1264
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 3: trying to rain on her, you know.

1265
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 5: Right, And Eli man is whole ass.

1266
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 6: Daddy was like what he not gonna go to whatever

1267
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 6: that team was, and he ended up going to New York.

1268
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 5: But nobody ever said his daddy was overbearing. I tell

1269
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 5: it funny.

1270
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 6: Nobody ever said his daddy didn't have no business quote

1271
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 6: unquote dictating and telling his child what to do.

1272
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 3: Three or four years ago, Tom Brady, who was a

1273
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 3: grown ass man his father called into a radio station

1274
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 3: to defend his son. Tom Brady is fucking forties, like

1275
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 3: what like? But but like I said, it's just different.

1276
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 2: You know.

1277
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 3: Anyway, if you want to understand that, you deal.

1278
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 8: Child and this child gonna be with you, gonna get

1279
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 8: the bland. But she said something, what's happened, black kid?

1280
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 8: And your kids a lot of confidence?

1281
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 4: This dad alive?

1282
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said too easily, all right, And they just

1283
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 2: kind of looked back to the beginning but yeah, yeah.

1284
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 5: Her dadda got mad be like, nah, what you not

1285
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 5: gonna do? Is this bullshit?

1286
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 6: Right here, she's a child. If she was a little

1287
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 6: white child, you to let her role off of being.

1288
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 3: Confident, right and also and also it is different for

1289
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 3: her because white kids get to be confident in a

1290
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 3: way where they are allowed to like it's it's we're impressed.

1291
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: It's the reason that white kids have.

1292
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 3: Eliminade stands, but the cops don't get called on them never.

1293
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 3: You know, it's the reason where the outspoken black kid

1294
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 3: in school is a troublemaker and sent to the to

1295
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 3: the principal, and the outspoken white kid is like, oh,

1296
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 3: he's a class cloud.

1297
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 2: You know. It's it's it's the difference.

1298
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 3: And without that parental, protective father figure, what happens to

1299
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 3: us girls, without him being the fanatical, delusional person that

1300
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 3: they claimed he was, because now he's a prophet, but

1301
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 3: before that he was, you know, people were comparing them

1302
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: to like abuse the father's like Joe Jackson and shit.

1303
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 3: You know, so I don't know, man, if it wasn't

1304
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 3: for him being crazy, quote unquote, I don't know that

1305
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 3: we get Serena and Venus playing for the thirtieth time

1306
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 3: last night on Friday at the US Open. I don't

1307
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 3: know that we get that. And if he would have

1308
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 3: just said, well, I don't know what I'm doing. Let

1309
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 3: me put these girls in the hands of some trainers

1310
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 3: when they're thirteen fourteen years old and let them manage

1311
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 3: their careers.

1312
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't know that white people would.

1313
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 3: Prepare these sisters for this, because it seemed like he

1314
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 3: prepared them every step of the way to not just

1315
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 3: be confident, but to be composed and to be unbothered

1316
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: and unfazed crumbled right. I just don't know white people

1317
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 3: would have been telling them that even though they calling

1318
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 3: you nigger, they love you, you know, like I just

1319
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 3: don't think it would have been the same. Trace wind

1320
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 3: Dude seven forty four says thanks for the episode Riding Camps.

1321
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 3: So we love what y'all said about Serena, her sister

1322
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 3: and father. That's loved all of it. I also loved

1323
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 3: what you said about Lawrence response to Glasper. She pretty

1324
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 3: much explained everything concisely and clearly. I just wish she

1325
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 3: had been able to part from that Marley Boys sooner

1326
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 3: than she did. But because he was still the father

1327
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 3: of her children. I know that's something that's not always

1328
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 3: the easiest thing to do. I think that's one of

1329
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 3: the main, many, main problems she has had to deal

1330
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 3: with that cause a heavy burden on her life. As

1331
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 3: a fan, I hate to see that even Lauren has

1332
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 3: to deal with. Ain't shit Nigga too lol. I wish

1333
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 3: peace and happiness to her as though always. Thanks Riding Karen, Yeah,

1334
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 3: thank you. And the last one was did you hear

1335
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 3: did hearing directly from Lauren he'll change her mind at all? No,

1336
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 3: I was already on her side, yes or no, I

1337
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 3: will always despise her even worse than the Catholic Church people.

1338
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 3: Twelve percent of y'all will always despise her even worse

1339
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: than the Catholic Church and y'all sick in me. Wow,

1340
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 3: I really said that, worse than those petophile rapists.

1341
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 2: Wow.

1342
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 3: Twenty four percent said yes and no, I was already

1343
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 3: on the side sixty brookle shoe basis. I just I'm

1344
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 3: just gonna be brief. I was always on Launge side,

1345
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 3: my humble pigions. She made such a brilliant album that

1346
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 3: after a decade I didn't want her to make anything else.

1347
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 3: When she won all those Grammys as a rap slash

1348
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 3: hip hop artist. I was and will always be proud

1349
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 3: of as a woman, hip hop head and a contemporary Yeah,

1350
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 3: it kind of reminds me of the Jordan argument. People

1351
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 3: really need her to fit into some like specific lanes

1352
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 3: for them to evaluate her talent, And I'm.

1353
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 2: Just like, she was talented. She gave us what.

1354
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 3: She could do, and I liked it, and I thought

1355
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,479
Speaker 3: she was really fucking good.

1356
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: Like to this day, I still feel like she's.

1357
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 3: One of the best MC's I've ever heard. Like I

1358
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 3: don't I'm sorry, I don't have the same like outline

1359
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 3: as you do. What you need twelve albums or a

1360
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 3: certain amount of like whatever. Like I don't know if

1361
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 3: you told me, like sitting in a room, like pick

1362
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 3: some people that you want to hear do freestyle, she's

1363
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 3: gonna be in my top Like I don't know ten

1364
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 3: or so people that I would like to hear freestyle from.

1365
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 3: That's my preference, that's my flavor, you know. Ms CT says,

1366
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 3: I'm not in the high but I understood when you

1367
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 3: came to defense in one of the last episodes, I

1368
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 3: think the jazz artist was attacking her because he wanted

1369
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 3: to sell a few albums and getting to her.

1370
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 2: Was the best way to do so.

1371
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 3: Exposure crazy expansion, whether positive or negative exposure. But it's

1372
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 3: the reason why she stepped away from the spotlight to

1373
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 3: begin with, to avoid this type of negative publicity. But

1374
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 3: I don't agree with the whole late shows thing is

1375
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 3: we've already discussed ad nauseam. Yeah, attacking her character when

1376
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 3: she paid you and you ended up doing whatever the

1377
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 3: hell you wanted to do anyway, it's just harmful and

1378
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 3: hateful for no reason. Yeah, he picked the right target,

1379
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 3: because nobody's gonna come back and say, Rob, wasn't that

1380
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 3: kind of fucked up on your part?

1381
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: You know, like as like, you know, you did do

1382
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 2: the gig, you did take the money.

1383
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, you thought she was somehow a charlatan and a

1384
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 3: music thief and all this stuff. Why did you even

1385
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 3: take that gig? You know, you're the one that says

1386
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 3: it was fucked up. She's fucked up. It's just kind

1387
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 3: of weird, you know. And it's not like he has

1388
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 3: no no skeletons in his closet either, you know, like

1389
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 3: he got accused of being sexist because of the way

1390
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 3: he talks about about jazz and women in the jazz

1391
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 3: game have been fighting very hard for respect. It's very

1392
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 3: you know, jazz is also a very misogynistic industry, like

1393
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 3: all the music industry.

1394
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. This article.

1395
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 3: Yesterday on International Women's Day, most of my friends were

1396
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 3: full of powering mode this this is written by Michelle

1397
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 3: mercer h when they were sporting red clothes, naming their

1398
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 3: top five women artists and posting photos of mothers and daughters.

1399
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 3: But over in the jazz world, International Women's Day was

1400
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 3: a little more awkward.

1401
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 2: We were busy attending.

1402
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 3: Uh so much more so, much less celebratory Wiess Women's Business.

1403
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 3: A series of o line events that will call the

1404
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 3: saga musical clatoris. Yes, according to some, there's a musical clatorus.

1405
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 3: Though please don't worry if you've never found yours. It

1406
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 3: all began with Raah with a Robert Glasper interview published

1407
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 3: last weekend on Due the Math, the Blog of the

1408
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 3: Bad plus pianist Ethan Irverson. The Jazz World treasures Do

1409
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 3: the Math for its insightful content, particularly it's revealing interviews

1410
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 3: in which iverson status status as a fellow musicians a

1411
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 3: clear advantage Midway through his interview, the charismatic Clasper decided

1412
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,799
Speaker 3: to build some report with Iverson in the manner familiar

1413
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 3: to straight men all over the world, by talking about

1414
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 3: how much the ladies loved them. After asserting his own

1415
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 3: unusually authentic conversants in R and B hip hop and jazz,

1416
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 3: Glasper brought out on the flattery, I've had people tell

1417
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 3: me about your music, like women you would think never

1418
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 3: listen to jazz. Young find eurochicks, ask me.

1419
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 2: Euro chicks, But that's you'all.

1420
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 4: Hero.

1421
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: I heard this band, The Bad Plus. Do you know them?

1422
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 3: And Iverson said, I guess that's one of the reasons

1423
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 3: to play, really, so you know, play to get some women,

1424
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 3: you know. And Glassper went on, I've seen what that

1425
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 3: does to the audience, playing that groove. I love making

1426
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 3: the audience feel that way. Getting back to women, women

1427
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 3: love that. They don't love a whole lot of soloing.

1428
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 3: When you hit that one groove and stay there, it's

1429
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:28,759
Speaker 3: like a musical glutorist. You're there, you stay on that groove,

1430
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 3: And the women's eyes closed and they started to swag

1431
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 3: on into a trance. Now, they said, Glassers Thomas come

1432
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 3: as a shock to exactly zero people who spend any

1433
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 3: time in the jazz word world. I've heard variations of

1434
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 3: the women can't really follow jazz theme ever since I

1435
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 3: first started hitting jazz clubs and following extremely long solos.

1436
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 3: To be a female jazz fan and a critic is

1437
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:56,560
Speaker 3: to live with a frustrating, irreconcilability. I have an intellectual

1438
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 3: passion for creative, complax music, and sometimes the musicians who

1439
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 3: make that music doubt my ability to appreciate its creativity

1440
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:11,759
Speaker 3: and complexity. So essentially, Robert was like, women don't follow

1441
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 3: jazz for the same on the same cerebral level as

1442
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 3: us men. But if I say he might have some

1443
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 3: issues with women, yes, the.

1444
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 5: Whole things sound very misogynistic.

1445
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's essentially what he said is, you know,

1446
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 3: women can't really follow it, and then not to mention,

1447
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 3: turning the interview into we do this to get some hoes.

1448
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 3: But you know, but that's the dude that I was

1449
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 3: supposed to be like, Well, obviously his opinion on Laurne

1450
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,799
Speaker 3: Hill is more important than than anything else, and nothing

1451
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 3: she can say back can explain any of this shit.

1452
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 3: She just needs to quote unquote take the l That's

1453
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 3: that's weird. To me uh seventeen forty six fiscal Conservative.

1454
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 3: We talked about preparation for the live show LGBTQ News,

1455
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 3: Kanye West apologizing, let's see what we got here? Are

1456
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 3: in Gullich says Rod, could you make could you make

1457
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 3: this playlist publicly? It's all the songs you played were

1458
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 3: indeed my shit, excellent show as usual, Thanks for all

1459
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 3: you do, and you and Queen Cary do if I remember,

1460
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 3: I would put in the show notes for this episode, okay,

1461
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 3: because I didn't want to just share it on Twitter

1462
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 3: and Facebook because at this point I feel like people

1463
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 3: take shit out of context. And while it might be

1464
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,799
Speaker 3: a funny little inside joke on the podcast or something

1465
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 3: for me and you know my friends that are my

1466
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 3: friends on Spotify and shit, I can I honestly see

1467
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 3: people being like all black women don't like this, or

1468
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 3: what you mean black women in the gays or whatever.

1469
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 2: I don't want, no problem.

1470
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 3: It was a little joke for the show, and I

1471
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,600
Speaker 3: think people do listen to the show obviously get it

1472
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 3: because it's like, yeah, shit, that does a good list

1473
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 3: of songs. To people outside the show that don't give

1474
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 3: a fuck about context, they would just somehow end up

1475
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 3: making it a big deal, so I will share it

1476
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 3: in the show notes. Guys, all right, our boy Jeremy says,

1477
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 3: what up? Roder Carroll just wanted to swing through it.

1478
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 3: Show y'all some love because it's been a while. Good

1479
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 3: luck on the coming live show, and I'm very proud

1480
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 3: of y'all. Signed Jeremy Bacon, Grease Baron of CSPN.

1481
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 5: Thanks man, Thank you.

1482
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 3: That test says Kanye really sat there and apologized for

1483
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 3: our feelings about what he said, unless there was more

1484
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 3: that he said than another point in the interview. He

1485
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 3: never took his words back, never said that he didn't

1486
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 3: actually believe what he said. He just apologized for that

1487
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 3: maga shit and what he said about slavery hit people hard,

1488
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 3: and then nobody asked directly if he still believes it now.

1489
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 3: Whenever somebody apologizes, I listen for an apology for what

1490
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 3: they did, even if it's shitty excuse surrounds it. Anything

1491
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,560
Speaker 3: else is just fluff to try and get us to

1492
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 3: back off for them. I would have felt more for

1493
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 3: him if he would have just said, y'all, I was

1494
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 3: tripping my bag. He basically put the blame on us

1495
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 3: for being offended so he can still kiss my ass.

1496
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: Sure.

1497
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, I never got as offended

1498
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 3: as the rest a lot of people did about this shit.

1499
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 3: And I always felt like whatever was going on with

1500
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 3: him was something bigger than just some regular ass cuoning

1501
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 3: because I just don't know what's up with his mental state,

1502
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 3: and I you know, and I don't feel comfortable. This

1503
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 3: shit just did not sound like it made sense to me,

1504
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 3: And I don't know where that came from. All that

1505
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 3: being said, Hey, if you don't want to forget, I didn't.

1506
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 2: To me. It wasn't about me forgiving him. I never

1507
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 2: was really mad.

1508
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 3: So if you were offended and you know, waiting on

1509
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 3: him to say something that would make you forgive him

1510
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 3: or whatever, I don't think that's gonna happen. He just

1511
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 3: doesn't seem to be that kind of dude. I more

1512
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 3: felt bad about two things in the interview.

1513
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 2: One, I felt bad because he saw he damn there.

1514
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 3: Was crying because somebody, because he finally was sitting in

1515
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 3: a room with other black people that weren't there to

1516
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 3: exploit him in the way that Charlemagne was, in the

1517
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 3: way that TMZ was. He was finally sitting in a

1518
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 3: room with a black woman in Chicago from Chicago who

1519
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 3: was like, we root for you because you're a black

1520
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 3: kid from Chicago, and you let us all down with

1521
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 3: this bullshit and you hurt me. And then he could

1522
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 3: not keep up the fucking act anymore of well, it's

1523
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 3: a choice or whatever. He had to be serious for

1524
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 3: a second, and it sounds to me like you don't

1525
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 3: have those kind of people in his life no more,

1526
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 3: Like maybe I know he kept talking about he could

1527
01:16:55,920 --> 01:17:00,759
Speaker 3: talk to don don cee or whatever in Chicago like that,

1528
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 3: if he had somebody like that that will help him out.

1529
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just know it just seemed like

1530
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 3: a moment of well, I felt bad for her for

1531
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 3: still wanting to believe in him and still wanting him

1532
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 3: to do right by her in Chicago and black people

1533
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 3: and feeling like he should be a spokesman. And I

1534
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 3: also felt bad for him just for the fact that

1535
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 3: it made me think, I don't know, it just made

1536
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 3: me feel like something is going on with him that's

1537
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 3: bigger than just you know, some regular the normal coon shit.

1538
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 3: You know, like it didn't feel like Domina Silk to me,

1539
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 3: and feel like something's off with that dude. Falcus Deva

1540
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 3: says Rod, I'm also an impath and watch the video.

1541
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 3: Kanye's apology had me feeling some kind of way. There's

1542
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 3: a stark contrast from when he was making a slavery

1543
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 3: comment or hanging with Trumpsters. I can't explain it, but

1544
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 3: there's a look in his face and tone of his

1545
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 3: voice that makes me more concern for him than mad

1546
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 3: at him.

1547
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1548
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,759
Speaker 3: Recently in my spinning class instruct to play the videos

1549
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 3: for Otis and niggas in Paris. Kanye looks so happy

1550
01:17:58,320 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 3: in these videos, and I just want him back in

1551
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: that space. And I'm not even a Kanye fan. I'll

1552
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:07,520
Speaker 3: just watched him vacillating between what seems like sanity insanity

1553
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 3: over the years. I would never try to open on

1554
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 3: his mental state, but it's apparent when he needs help.

1555
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 3: I mean, he's the one talking about being bipolar and

1556
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 3: it's a superpower and he off his meds. I mean,

1557
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I'm making anything up. It just

1558
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 3: I just think people care when they care, and they

1559
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 3: don't care when they don't care. And he says some

1560
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 3: things that hurt black people's feelings and black people rather

1561
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 3: than that we will never We feel like we're at

1562
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 3: a point in society where admitting that our feelings will

1563
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 3: hurt makes us weak, and so his feeling he hurt

1564
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 3: our feelings quote unquote, you know collectively is a race.

1565
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 3: And now he has to go and with I were

1566
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 3: to say, well, it might be you know, some stuff

1567
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 3: with his mental state, it just don't matter.

1568
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. We are mad and that's it.

1569
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 3: And I'm saying it that matter of factly, not to

1570
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 3: be dismissive, but because that's the bottom line. It doesn't

1571
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not trying to be pejorative or belittle

1572
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 3: anyone's emotions.

1573
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 2: It's just I.

1574
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 3: I see, I've read the story already. I know how

1575
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 3: people feel, and it doesn't matter what you bring up.

1576
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 3: They just basically go.

1577
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm mad at him and fuck him. And that's their

1578
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 2: right too. You know.

1579
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 3: I'll beget to help he needs, you know, But yeah,

1580
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 3: I understand how people are just basically like, I don't

1581
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 3: got time to waste in my life about this shit.

1582
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 2: No war.

1583
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 3: Anonymous teacher says, Hey, Ron and Karen, I've been wanting

1584
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 3: to write you too for a while, but have been

1585
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 3: crazy busy with the start of school in life.

1586
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 2: I really appreciate your show and I love you all

1587
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 2: so much. Worrying long warning, long letter coming.

1588
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 3: I'm a teacher and we my husband and I have

1589
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 3: been listening to the show for over year now.

1590
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 2: We finally became premium last month and I'm happy we

1591
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 2: did keep up the great work.

1592
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 3: Before school starts, we always have professional developments about all

1593
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 3: kinds of stuff to get ready for the school year.

1594
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 3: We had a couple pds that seriously got to me.

1595
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 3: We had a meetings of our mental health with schools

1596
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 3: and active shooter information for all the teachers. In these meetings,

1597
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 3: they presented us with data what do we do if

1598
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 3: we have an active shooter on campus, videos that focus

1599
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 3: on one kid and not the real one that does

1600
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 3: the shooting, and the actual novel on one tape from Columbine.

1601
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: In general, I felt extremely triggered.

1602
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 3: Bother than highly emotional, I felt that they are trying

1603
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 3: to get us to pay even more attention to our students,

1604
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 3: which we already do this day in and day out,

1605
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 3: and find more wonted size to prevent school shootings. It

1606
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 3: feels like if something was to happen at school, they

1607
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 3: will be talking to us, the teachers that literally see

1608
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 3: them for less than an hour day, and asking us

1609
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 3: what did we do. Teachers are already highly sensitive to

1610
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 3: school shootings, so we know that they are serious. What

1611
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 3: was interesting to me was that some of my coworkers

1612
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 3: didn't know that school shootings have been happening since the

1613
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 3: beginning of the ninety nineteen hundreds. We watched our students

1614
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 3: constantly because many of us are scared that it will

1615
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 3: happen be at our school next. I understood why they

1616
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,959
Speaker 3: gave us the data and mental health information on school shooters,

1617
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 3: but what I didn't feel was needed was a novel

1618
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 3: one tape played for us. The playing of the actual

1619
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 3: noveler one tape from Columbine. We were hearing screens, gunshots

1620
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 3: and everything. I wanted to leave, but no one was

1621
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 3: walking at the time. I just looked around and saw

1622
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 3: over half the teachers in the room sava, and I

1623
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 3: was one of them too. I cried almost every school shooting.

1624
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 3: I did learn something new that a little under half

1625
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 3: about forty five percent of all mass shootings are done

1626
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 3: at schools.

1627
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:33,480
Speaker 2: That's a huge.

1628
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 3: Percentage, especially in America, where we have so many We

1629
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 3: were even told that there isn't a type situation for

1630
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 3: students that could do a mass shooting, So we need

1631
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 3: to pretty much highly watch our students even.

1632
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 2: More than what we were before.

1633
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 3: I loved my job and I'm pretty great at it,

1634
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 3: but it's becoming really hard and I know I can't

1635
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 3: stay in this field on top of everything else that

1636
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 3: we do. It's sad that my job has come to

1637
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 3: this and that no one, no one at all, will

1638
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 3: talk about the real issues are that guds are horrible

1639
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 3: and we don't need them. I wish we could ban them,

1640
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 3: like you have talked about many times on the show.

1641
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 3: But I know that it's a fantasy that America loves

1642
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 3: their guds more than that people, more than that children.

1643
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 2: They love them more than that children.

1644
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 3: I just wanted to let you know that a lots

1645
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 3: of people that agree with you and keep talking love

1646
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 3: you too, Thank you, thank you, and uh yeah, they

1647
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 3: love that guds more than those fucking than their own children.

1648
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 2: That's that's that That New Town one was the one

1649
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: that was the one where it was the Sandy Hook.

1650
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 3: Well, those two, I guess if those are the same

1651
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:39,480
Speaker 3: one and those that one, But that's two separate. Okay,

1652
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 3: those are the ones I said, you know what, we're

1653
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 3: irredeemab boys of people. We're irredeemable people would rather believe

1654
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 3: those parents made up their children and our crisis actors

1655
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 3: than say this was, you know, we need to get

1656
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 3: rid of guns. Do you think that politician was trying

1657
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 3: to be racist? The one that said we don't need

1658
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 3: the monkey this up in Florida said said yes, five percent?

1659
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: Said no, I can't believe this wasn't one hundred percent.

1660
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 2: That's all.

1661
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 5: We always shocked. We get one hundred percent, y'all.

1662
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 3: Eve, He says, I've heard the term monkey around and

1663
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 3: mucket up, but never munkey it up. That jackass knew

1664
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 3: exactly what he was saying, and Fox News was the

1665
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 3: perfect placement and said, fuck that guy, Fuck Florida. If

1666
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 3: he asked, come on, all right, let's look at your voicemails,

1667
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 3: we got a couple playees.

1668
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 4: Oh what's up? Rout and Karen, this is told the

1669
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 4: school I'm calling in regard to episode seventeen forty, and

1670
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 4: you're talking about the University charter school, and I think

1671
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 4: it's Biggson Alabama. I went to school. I went to

1672
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 4: public school in the Black Belt, like it's only like

1673
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 4: two whiles from where I currently lived and where we

1674
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 4: went to high school. Part of what you're saying is accurate, Yes,

1675
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 4: said what schools were integrated for what you have to

1676
01:23:54,400 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 4: also remember that because it is a seventy percent black population,

1677
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 4: those twenty to thirty percent of white people, all they

1678
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 4: did was opening smaller private schools. And if you look

1679
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 4: throughout not only this state, for other Suthern states, and

1680
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 4: you pay attention to the schools that quote unquote are

1681
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,919
Speaker 4: the best when you go to sites like great Schools

1682
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 4: dot net, or when you read those those news articles

1683
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 4: that they put out all the time about the best schools. Oftentimes,

1684
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 4: when you look into their history, you find out they

1685
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 4: started from the fact that this small people White people

1686
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 4: figured they wanted to make sure they kids get the

1687
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 4: best opportunity, period and so the way they did it

1688
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 4: was make private schools of Christian academies and just continue home.

1689
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 4: And oftentimes what also happened is that though even those

1690
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 4: black people who do have a little for a little

1691
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 4: middle class, they're sending some of their kids it's over there.

1692
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,799
Speaker 4: So you might have teachers who work in the public

1693
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 4: school systems in Softer County that were black that sent

1694
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 4: their kids to the private school, so negating any kind

1695
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 4: of like improvement for the other kids or the community

1696
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 4: at the community in general, because they just send it

1697
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 4: there more.

1698
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 2: Oh you gotta cut off all right, next one.

1699
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 4: Hey, Rodd Caring, this told the school again, I got disconnected.

1700
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 4: What I was saying was that you might have educators

1701
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 4: who were teaching in the public schools who decided to

1702
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 4: send their kids to the local private school or the

1703
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 4: local Christian school. And I don't want to make it

1704
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 4: sound like it's all racial based, because if you take

1705
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 4: a look example or something like love I mean basketball wise,

1706
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 4: you know, Shawnee kids might go to this really small school,

1707
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 4: but you know it was a private school, and when

1708
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,600
Speaker 4: they probably could, they probably just go to like a

1709
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 4: public school as well and have some of the same

1710
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 4: opportunities to you know, socialize with kids at age and

1711
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 4: from that. From that are also black. But because you

1712
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 4: know that their parents have more money and they have

1713
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 4: more resources, they tend to send their kids to more

1714
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 4: to school that have more advantages anyway, And it's because

1715
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 4: you know, they want to quote unquote ensure that their

1716
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 4: child has the best education and get more attention. So yeah,

1717
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 4: that's where I wanted to call and say that, yes,

1718
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 4: it was back in the late sixties that in immigration

1719
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 4: was supposed to happen, But unless you look at actual

1720
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 4: school policies from county to county, state to state, you

1721
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 4: can never really say that there was true integration. Even

1722
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 4: in somewhere like in North Carolina, they might be the

1723
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 4: same way.

1724
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 3: All right, all right, thanks good and uh, yeah I

1725
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 3: feel you. That's the lesson other day, I guess, but yeah,

1726
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 3: I definitely, I definitely see what you're saying about people

1727
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 3: with means. I guess what I'm saying is with charter schools,

1728
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 3: a lot of white people that don't have the means

1729
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 3: to pay for private school will still use them to

1730
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 3: try to find a way to get away from black kids, right,

1731
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 3: to get their kids away from black kids.

1732
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 2: And if you have the means and.

1733
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 3: You want to go pay somebody for an education that

1734
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 3: you feel a superior in public school, I understand that black,

1735
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 3: white whatever. It's funny that people that don't have the

1736
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 3: means want to stipend to keep their white kids away

1737
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 3: from too many black kids.

1738
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 5: That's that's the and that's the problem that I have

1739
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,839
Speaker 5: all right. Next voicemail, we got one more high riding Karen.

1740
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 10: This is Kelly Joe from indian Napolis, Indiana. My goal

1741
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 10: is to get to your show on September twentia. Can

1742
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 10: can you give me a little bit of what it

1743
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 10: took for y'all to jump out there and make such

1744
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 10: a remark how at me read my comment on on

1745
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 10: your show? I give y all five stars every chance

1746
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 10: I can when my computer's so old, so holler at me, love, y'all.

1747
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 2: So to I guess to jump out there and start

1748
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 2: our podcast.

1749
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 3: So you mean to jump out there and start the

1750
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 3: live show, I'll say, I think she meant the podcast.

1751
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 2: So do you think, Karen?

1752
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 5: That's what I'm assuming?

1753
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 3: Okay, So to start the podcast. The main thing was

1754
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 3: we listened to a lot of podcasts. I know, I

1755
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 3: did my my favorite podcast at the time and still

1756
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 3: what I think is the best podcast in the game

1757
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 3: is Keith and the Girl. And they had a show

1758
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 3: where someone wrote in complaining about some bullshit and saying

1759
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 3: how their show wasn't that good and anyone could do it,

1760
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 3: And they said, well, you know what, if.

1761
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 2: Anyone can do it, why don't you do it? Right?

1762
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 2: It's so easy start your own show.

1763
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 3: And they said it, you know, pejoratively to be like,

1764
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 3: we're good at this, like why what the fuck are

1765
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 3: you talking about?

1766
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 2: You're listening to us.

1767
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 3: But also it was motivational to me because I said,

1768
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 3: why can't I start my own show? And you know,

1769
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 3: I think Karen and I have good conversations, and I

1770
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:24,440
Speaker 3: was like, we should do a show. And Karen is dependable,

1771
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 3: studious and funny and charismatic and all that stuff. And

1772
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't think of a better show

1773
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 3: partner to do this with that'll be as committed to

1774
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 3: this as I am. And you know, we started the podcast,

1775
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 3: and it was to us it wasn't feeling it didn't

1776
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 3: feel like jumping out there necessarily because at the time,

1777
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 3: podcasting was such.

1778
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 2: An insulary medium.

1779
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 3: It was, you know, maybe a cutting full of people

1780
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 3: on Twitter or listen to you, maybe some random stranger

1781
01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 3: downloads your stuff on the internet. But it never occurred

1782
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 3: to us that we would be popular m purpose, you know,

1783
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 3: and slowly and slowly it just kept building up to

1784
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 3: the point where it's kind of unavoidable, like, oh, we

1785
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 3: are some level of popular. I wouldn't call us famous,

1786
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 3: but we are some level of popular, you know, and

1787
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 3: it keeps growing, and you know, to the point where

1788
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 3: you know, we're we're at a pretty good spot of

1789
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 3: like if somebody spots us, so we go somewhere and

1790
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 3: meet somebody, we can still do little stuff like that.

1791
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 2: We can still we haven't.

1792
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 3: Ran any Psycho fans or anything, so we're still in

1793
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 3: a pretty good spot. But yeah, I think that was

1794
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 3: what made us want to jump out there, and Karen

1795
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 3: didn't really want to do it, which is why it's

1796
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 3: named the black Guy Who Tips and not like the

1797
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 3: black couple that does something or black I don't know whatever.

1798
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 3: I would have called it the Rod and Karen Show

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01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 3: or something. It's not called that because Karen was like,

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01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 3: if I quit, you want a different partner, because I

1801
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 3: suck you. You can just switch it, switch it out

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01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 3: at any point.

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01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 6: That's why I was nice surprised they, you know, because

1804
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 6: a lot of people read the title and they'd be like,

1805
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 6: who is this black guy to tips?

1806
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:12,719
Speaker 5: But a minute, it's a woman on the show.

1807
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1808
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 3: And what's funny is I would have one, I would

1809
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 3: have never named it that if not for Karen.

1810
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 2: And then two I never was going to replace Karen.

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01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 3: If she would have somehow quit, then it just would

1812
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 3: have been not been a podcast. So it's it's it's

1813
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 3: funny that like, but it was the only way to

1814
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:32,639
Speaker 3: really get her to feel comfortable like doing it. And

1815
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 3: you know, to me, it felt like people liked it

1816
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 3: pretty much right away, you know, but it didn't a lot.

1817
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 3: We didn't have a lot of listeners, so it just

1818
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 3: kind of.

1819
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 2: Grew and from there.

1820
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 3: So uh, now let me go to the next session

1821
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 3: cause it's gonna get cut off.

1822
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's what out there.

1823
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 6: I didn't even realize that I'm the start of the

1824
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:56,719
Speaker 6: show about a black guy.

1825
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, because like

1826
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 3: I said, I do all this prep and all this stuff,

1827
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 3: and you know, you just show up and be.

1828
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 2: Yourself and.

1829
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 3: You know your personality and and make the jokes and stuff,

1830
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 3: and that's where a lot of people come for you know.

1831
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 3: Let me add you back to the screen. Sorry, okay,

1832
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 3: but yeah, anyway, I just feel like that if you're

1833
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 3: talking about if you're talking about the live show, it

1834
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 3: made us jump out there. That's also for me, it's incremental,

1835
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 3: Like we did a pando at Awesome con maybe two

1836
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 3: or three years ago, and people came to see us

1837
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:46,639
Speaker 3: and us specifically, which I was not necessarily expecting.

1838
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be a collective.

1839
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 5: Like because it was a collection of people.

1840
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, oh, some of my favorite black podcasts are here.

1841
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 3: But then afterwards we were taking pictures with people and

1842
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 3: meeting people, shaking hands.

1843
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 5: I know, people were saying our names and people with cheering.

1844
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 2: I'm like the right and like what is wrong?

1845
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 3: Right, And there was kind of a realization at that point, like, oh,

1846
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 3: people really like us, not just in our spare bedroom.

1847
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 6: Right, because we were back to the foundation of what

1848
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 6: we do.

1849
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 5: We just two niggas with a microphone.

1850
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 3: Right, And so it's like these people exist, they're real,

1851
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 3: they're rooting for us, they like us.

1852
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 2: And so then the.

1853
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:29,799
Speaker 3: Next year we did negro Con, which is us Where's

1854
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 3: my forty acres and Movie Trailer Reviews Network, and we

1855
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 3: all like did a live show and that was like okay,

1856
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 3: and then we did a couple oh wait, I'm sorry.

1857
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 3: Before that, I think we went to revote Con, which

1858
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 3: is puff Daddy's Revolt. TV flew us out to Miami

1859
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 3: to this hip hop conference and we were on like

1860
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:56,639
Speaker 3: the podcasting panel with Combat Jack and Rest in Peace

1861
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 3: tax Stone, dj f N Nori like that was a

1862
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:05,520
Speaker 3: cool experience.

1863
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 2: And then in uh.

1864
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 3: Then we did negro khn in uh DC and then

1865
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 3: we got we went to podkn in Seattle.

1866
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 2: Yes, they flew us out there.

1867
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 3: I mean these are all been signs that, at least

1868
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 3: for me, confirmation that oh people listen, people like us,

1869
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 3: people want to hear from us.

1870
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 2: And we had fans in Seattle. That's something I did

1871
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 2: not anticipate, you know.

1872
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 5: And they showed out. They showed up and showed out.

1873
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 2: Like we got so all of that stuff to say.

1874
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 3: The live show thing was just more about like, okay,

1875
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 3: now it's time, maybe we can do this. So you know,

1876
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 3: we took a chance on ourselves and we'll see how

1877
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 3: it turns out on the twentieth. As far as the

1878
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 3: final numbers, but it's already a success as yes, yeah,

1879
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 3: I mean not no, no, I'm not talking about like

1880
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 3: some emotional shit. I mean, no, numbers wise, it's already

1881
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 3: going to make money.

1882
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 2: Correct.

1883
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 3: That is important because business is not and what we

1884
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 3: do is a business is not just about feeling good,

1885
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 3: which a lot of people get caught up in and

1886
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 3: then you know, you end up with some serious dad

1887
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 3: or you end up, I don't know, fucked up in

1888
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 3: the game somehow, you know, like you spend all this

1889
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 3: money to make people feel good or make yourself feel good,

1890
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 3: but you ain't make no money, you know, I don't

1891
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 3: want to fan com people and shit. So it's good

1892
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 3: to know that we invest in ourselves and it keeps

1893
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 3: reaping benefits as long as everything goes well. So that was,

1894
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 3: you know, that was It was a calculated risk to

1895
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,599
Speaker 3: do a live show, and doing it here makes me

1896
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 3: feel more comfortable than doing it somewhere else. Traveling and

1897
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 3: all this shit, but you know, eventually probably end up

1898
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 3: traveling with these So anyway, I hope that answers your question. Emails, emails, emails,

1899
01:35:56,479 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 3: Let's get to them. Is it obtainable by cameraon? Who

1900
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 3: says good day riding lovely the Lovely Karen, I'm a

1901
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 3: colored with you in it? Male, ages thirty from South Africa.

1902
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 3: I've been following a podcast for well for a while

1903
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 3: and I really enjoy.

1904
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 2: It and love Karen's accent.

1905
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 5: Thank you baby.

1906
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna launch my podcast the end of September. My

1907
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 3: podcast is gonna be social commentary. And I'm also planning

1908
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 3: to on launching another podcast next year in January, and

1909
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 3: it's gonna be on football, and not y'all football, but

1910
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:28,600
Speaker 3: the real football still the face yeah that soccer football.

1911
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 3: I want to know is getting ad money of three

1912
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 3: thousand dollars a month and obtainable and realistic goal.

1913
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 2: I'm planning on retiring in the Philippines in.

1914
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 3: Three years, child, because the cost of living is cheap

1915
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 3: out there in the country is beautiful and so.

1916
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:43,719
Speaker 2: All the people.

1917
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 3: So I'll be doing my two podcasts and shooting blogs

1918
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 3: around Southeast Asia. I know a guy's been doing vlogs

1919
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 3: in Thailand for the last seven months. According to him,

1920
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 3: that's what he's living off of the money YouTube pays them.

1921
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 3: Not to diss my dude, but his blogs are trash

1922
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 3: ooh Jesus. And I know I can do a better job, right,

1923
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 3: I know I could do a better job than him.

1924
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 2: Still shout outs to him. He's still my dude.

1925
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 3: So all I need is three thousand dollars a month

1926
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 3: to two thousand dollars a month to live off of

1927
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:15,680
Speaker 3: and one thousand dollars to say it back home to

1928
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 3: my mother.

1929
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 2: Can it be done.

1930
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 3: Can I make three thousand dollars a month and add

1931
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 3: money by the next three years? Love y'all. Thanks y'all

1932
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 3: for the great podcast at continue doing, y'all doing, Love y'all.

1933
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 6: That's a very hard question to answer, just for the

1934
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 6: fact that we don't know how the structure is there, like,

1935
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 6: because you know, we're in the United States, completely different

1936
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 6: and with any sponsorships and ads, it takes a while

1937
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 6: to build up sponsorships and ads. That's not something that

1938
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 6: happens over night, particularly if you're not already famous and

1939
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,639
Speaker 6: you're building something from the ground up, and it takes

1940
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:50,679
Speaker 6: a lot of hard work and dedication before anybody will

1941
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,640
Speaker 6: even consider sponsoring you because they gotta know you're going

1942
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 6: to be around, because I'm not paying you for advanced shows,

1943
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 6: and you might decide in the middle.

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Speaker 2: Just to quit. Yeah, so real shit, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: That's the best as I could give it.

1946
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Speaker 3: Advertising and podcasting is based off a listener base. So

1947
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 3: the best thing you have to do you be able

1948
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 3: to do, is build up a listener base and then

1949
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Speaker 3: maybe pursue some advertisers or get on some net and

1950
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:23,799
Speaker 3: some networks that have like those automatic ads, but without

1951
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Speaker 3: a very large listener base. I don't know that you

1952
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 3: make what you would pull in. Also, advertiser is very

1953
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 3: like for at least for us anyway, as independent contractors,

1954
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 3: you gotta remember we gotta invoice these people. You gotta

1955
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 3: hope they're on the up and up, send your money

1956
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 3: on time, they're constantly you know, if you have like

1957
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 3: a percentage that you get off of something, you're kind

1958
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:47,799
Speaker 3: of at their mercy for the numbers.

1959
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 2: If you can't always track those sales. If you.

1960
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 3: Have like a deal with someone where they have to

1961
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 3: pay a certain amount every month, a big business might

1962
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 3: not pay you, but you know they might be slow

1963
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 3: and you need your rent every week, you know what

1964
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 3: I mean, every month?

1965
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Speaker 5: Come on.

1966
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Speaker 2: So advertising is kind of.

1967
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:10,600
Speaker 3: A risky business. If you can kind of subsidize some

1968
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Speaker 3: of that with like premium content or Patreon subscribers or

1969
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 3: something that's a little more consistent. And that's where we

1970
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 3: get a lot of our freedom to have and run

1971
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Speaker 3: ads or choose which as we run and stuff and

1972
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,480
Speaker 3: build different people different amounts based.

1973
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 2: On you know, what we feel we should build them.

1974
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 3: We have only been able to do that because we

1975
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 3: have all these people that are premium subscribers, and they're

1976
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 3: pretty consistent. I mean people jump on jump all people

1977
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 3: you know, falling hard times, or they just cancel it,

1978
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:48,680
Speaker 3: you know, for whatever reasons, which is totally fine. You

1979
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:52,600
Speaker 3: know that that so that so it still kind of fluctuates,

1980
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 3: but it's more consistent than an advertiser, where like bebel

1981
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 3: might you know, advertise with us for a year and

1982
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 3: then just one day go no more, no more bebbo ads.

1983
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 3: Now you know that money's gone, So you don't want

1984
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 3: to repit depend on advertising and something just like nebulous

1985
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 3: concept because it's not that's not really how it works.

1986
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Speaker 2: You know. You gotta pursue each one differently and all

1987
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 2: that stuff.

1988
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Speaker 6: And sponsors come, sponsors go, sponsors come back, sponsors, restruction steals, like,

1989
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 6: there's all types of things when it comes to sponsorship.

1990
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Speaker 3: Michael Wright said, I was listening to the feedback show

1991
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 3: you advised about equipment. I went to your site, looked

1992
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 3: at the equipment valuable if By the way, my question

1993
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 3: is what are some key some key CPU spects so

1994
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Speaker 3: I don't buy the wrong laptop.

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Speaker 2: Thanks in advance.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna be honest, I don't know that what

1997
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 3: I do is I go up and best Buy and

1998
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:53,480
Speaker 3: I look at the like more expensive PCEs or laptops

1999
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 3: and try to get the one that I can like

2000
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 3: the most I can afford them.

2001
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 2: Like, you know, I.

2002
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 3: Would say, at least in my estimation, when we have

2003
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 3: gotten like uh Dell Inspirion or whatever like or HP

2004
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,559
Speaker 3: or something like, you know, whatever you get, like, it's

2005
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 3: been in the range of like eight hundred to like

2006
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:24,040
Speaker 3: a little over.

2007
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 2: One thousand dollars.

2008
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:30,599
Speaker 3: Now obviously it's an investment, and you know, we try

2009
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,879
Speaker 3: to dedicate those only to the podcast around Wear and Tear.

2010
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 2: Like you don't have shit.

2011
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you run on the background, slowing it down, dragging it.

2012
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 2: But computers age in white people years.

2013
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 5: Like come on, they find it in six months later

2014
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 5: they're like, you know.

2015
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Speaker 2: What, right, you're just looking up like what the fuck happened?

2016
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Speaker 3: Okay, So yeah, I would say, get h Yeah that's

2017
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Speaker 3: all I got.

2018
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Speaker 2: I don't got any And.

2019
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Speaker 6: It's very because we don't know nothing about Apples because

2020
01:41:58,040 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 6: we never had any Apple computers.

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Speaker 2: You are appreciated.

2022
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,600
Speaker 3: This from Jasmine says, Hey, Rod and care I just

2023
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 3: wanted to start off by saying that I'm a new listener.

2024
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 3: I love the show and I genuinely look forward to

2025
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 3: the new episodes every week. I hate that I can't

2026
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 3: make the last show, but my due date is September thirtieth,

2027
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 3: so that clearly interferes my ability to do a lot

2028
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 3: of things, let alone travel. Congratulations by the way, yes,

2029
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 3: good luck with everything on the do date and keep

2030
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 3: it with my news what I am that I have

2031
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 3: a mom to be. I just would like to thank

2032
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 3: you all for gathering individuals like myself all the way

2033
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 3: up and for inspiring me not to.

2034
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 2: Make these same mistakes twice.

2035
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Speaker 3: For background, I'm currently twenty five years old and I

2036
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 3: resided in Maryland. Back during twenty fourteen midterm elections, I

2037
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 3: was a young person who did not care to make

2038
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:42,600
Speaker 3: myself knowledgeable about politics and the impact it had on

2039
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 3: my everyday life. Looking back on it, it's a bit shameful,

2040
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Speaker 3: considering I graduated from an HBCU in twenty sixteen and

2041
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,719
Speaker 3: was constantly tied otherwise. Having a history of political ignorance,

2042
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 3: I can admit that I bought into the dangerous rhetoric

2043
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 3: about both Clinton and Trump when it came time for

2044
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,200
Speaker 3: the twenty sixteen election. Over the past two years, I've

2045
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:03,599
Speaker 3: seen the consequences of that, and it truly does discuss

2046
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 3: me and listening to the blackout tipts and reflecting on

2047
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:08,600
Speaker 3: what kind of mom I hope to be and the

2048
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 3: type of values I hope to pass on. I vowed

2049
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 3: not to make the mistake that makes the same mistake

2050
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 3: When it's time for the primary relations in Maryland, I'm

2051
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 3: made sure to waddle myself down to the post to

2052
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,679
Speaker 3: cast my vote come November. If need be, I will

2053
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 3: make sure that I wrap my body around me, my

2054
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 3: baby around me as I.

2055
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 2: Stand in line to vote.

2056
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 3: Again.

2057
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 2: Come on, come on.

2058
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 3: I know that at this point the wrong of Trump

2059
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 3: cannot be undone, but the show has helped inspire me

2060
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 3: to make sure that I do not idly stand by

2061
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 3: as the threat.

2062
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:38,360
Speaker 2: Of foolishness like him.

2063
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:42,639
Speaker 3: Again, come on, I thank y'all for constantly standing up

2064
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 3: on what is currently going on in the world and

2065
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 3: have a real honest discussion about the impacts on marginal

2066
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:49,680
Speaker 3: lines and off the under overlooked communities. I'm expecting the

2067
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 3: sun and there are so many lessons that I knew

2068
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 3: I wanted to teach him, ranging from blackness to toxic masculinity,

2069
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 3: that I now know I will be able to better articulate,

2070
01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 3: implement since listening to you all. Ah Man, thank you again,

2071
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 3: thank you for all that you for the show, and

2072
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 3: I just know that you have a listener in Maryland

2073
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:08,839
Speaker 3: with swollen feet whose life you have changed for the better. Sincerely,

2074
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 3: Nuggets mom ps. Nugget is my nickname for my son.

2075
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 3: He kicks me like crazy when the do you want

2076
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 3: to funk thing comes off? Come on, Oh man, that's beautiful.

2077
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 3: That's sincerely that, that's that. That that really does make

2078
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 3: it worth it, man, like it really does, because it's uh.

2079
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 3: I think the hardest thing now man, for people is

2080
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 3: to admit like they can improve or they're wrong. Like

2081
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 3: people like to say shit like like plat tudes, like

2082
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 3: well I'm not no one's perfect, included me. But then

2083
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,719
Speaker 3: the second you're like, well what about this thing, it's like, fuck,

2084
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 3: I know you.

2085
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 2: Ain't saying you know it's a skip record, right, and

2086
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 2: so you know it. I think this.

2087
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 3: I feel regretful of twenty sixteen in a certain way

2088
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,679
Speaker 3: because as much as I knew it was not a game,

2089
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 3: as much as I tried to impress upon people like

2090
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:05,680
Speaker 3: the seriousness of it, there was times when I was

2091
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 3: trying to like hear folks out and be like, okay,

2092
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 3: but ultimately, what is your plan with this?

2093
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:12,920
Speaker 2: But I have to respect what.

2094
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 3: You're gonna do with your vote, because everyone has a

2095
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:18,799
Speaker 3: right to their vote. But I thought about it afterwards,

2096
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I was lying because I don't really

2097
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 3: respect what you do with your vote, and I don't

2098
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 3: have to the same way that if somebody votes Republican,

2099
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 3: I don't have to respect that, and nobody can make

2100
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 3: me and not the same. You know, if you vote

2101
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 3: for Jill Stein, I don't have to respect that. You know,

2102
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:38,600
Speaker 3: you can have your political views, and shit, it's not

2103
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 3: like I can change it, you know. But I have

2104
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:46,480
Speaker 3: this platform that we built by being honest, by being forthright,

2105
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 3: and by being unflinching about our beliefs. And when those

2106
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 3: reliefs change, we talk about that.

2107
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 2: Too, you know.

2108
01:45:53,240 --> 01:46:00,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, like the this is why this is a

2109
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 3: home that I would love for everybody to come into.

2110
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:07,719
Speaker 3: As far as our podcast, it is still our home,

2111
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:13,559
Speaker 3: and we built it our way. And if people really

2112
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 3: think that their values and their views marriage some level

2113
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 3: of audience, they should build their audience that way, because

2114
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:28,600
Speaker 3: we build it our way. And we talk about the

2115
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:34,799
Speaker 3: things and we are too black Southern Democrat, progressive type people,

2116
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:37,679
Speaker 3: but we might not. But we don't fit in lock

2117
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 3: and step with anybody, just like no one person does.

2118
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:44,759
Speaker 2: But some of the.

2119
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 3: Stuff that was just said, it was just so foul

2120
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen. And I don't think it's a coincidence

2121
01:46:54,400 --> 01:47:03,479
Speaker 3: that Russians, Republicans, racists, and biggots all wanted us to

2122
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 3: vote the same way. And then when I see a

2123
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 3: black person say essentially those Republicans, racists, biggots, and Russians,

2124
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 3: all right, I'm like, Nah, that doesn't make sense to me.

2125
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 3: You don't make sense to me, you know. So, like

2126
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 3: I said, it doesn't mean I have to hate anybody.

2127
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna. I don't wanna spend all day berating people.

2128
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:29,679
Speaker 3: But when I get on this mic, I'm gonna tell

2129
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 3: how I feel about shit. And how I feel is

2130
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 3: a lot of people, you know, kind of play themselves

2131
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 3: or got played, And I don't want to get stuck

2132
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 3: on that other than to say, if we can recognize it,

2133
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 3: then we can change it.

2134
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:43,839
Speaker 2: Right.

2135
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 3: This is not a harp on it on some like

2136
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 3: twenty years from now, we'll be like you motherfuckers. Know

2137
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 3: what I hope happens is twenty eighteen, we see a

2138
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:54,559
Speaker 3: term and we see a change in the mid terms,

2139
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 3: and that last and in twenty twenty we see a

2140
01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 3: change in the main offices. I hope we can do that.

2141
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of faith in people, but

2142
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 3: you writing in gives me a little bit of hope,

2143
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 3: because that's.

2144
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 2: The shit we don't see anymore. We just we just

2145
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 2: don't see it.

2146
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 7: All the people who who who were advocating that way

2147
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 7: either went quiet or they don't talk about it anymore,

2148
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 7: or they doubled down, and a lot of them just

2149
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 7: act like they didn't do it.

2150
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 2: But I remember how people talked. I remember it.

2151
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:30,600
Speaker 3: You know, people can't hold their heads up hot no

2152
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 3: more because it's like, this is the shitty part of

2153
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 3: what you advocated.

2154
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 5: For and what you asked for.

2155
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like what you're gonna change.

2156
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 3: And it's dope to see somebody be like, yeah, man,

2157
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:42,679
Speaker 3: fuck that shit, I'm gonna change.

2158
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to be that kind of person.

2159
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:46,639
Speaker 3: And the thing is a lot of us have been

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Speaker 3: there before, most of us, especially when you're young, right,

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01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 3: same seem like a lot of work to learn on

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01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,680
Speaker 3: and shit, right, you know, it's easier just to like

2163
01:48:56,960 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 3: justify myself staying home by saying us all the same,

2164
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:04,680
Speaker 3: it's not gonna change anything. But the sad part is

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01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 3: it takes getting older to see the impact it has

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01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 3: on people before you can go, oh, this is very

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01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 3: fucking serious and it does change things, and there is

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Speaker 3: no it'll be okay. Maybe if you're living with these

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01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 3: sanctuary cities, one of these progressive cities that's already gonna

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01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,840
Speaker 3: take care of folks even despite the government this, sure

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01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 3: you get to be as radical as you won't and

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01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 3: just fucking tell us all we ain't shit.

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01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 2: But many of us don't live in these cities.

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Speaker 3: Many of us lives in jurisdictions where it's literally life

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01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 3: or death and we don't got time to play with folks.

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01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 2: You know we're not in California. You know we don't

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Speaker 2: have time to do this.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, no, Lauren hates shall prospers from Memphis who

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01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 3: writes it. Well, you spoke about the outrage towards Lauren

2180
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 3: Hill not fitting the crime. It made me think about

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01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 3: Whitney Huston. I'm gonna say, Witty Hutton shout out to

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01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 3: Martin Whitney Houston and the way that she was mocked

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01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 3: and discarded in those years when she retreated, before her

2184
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 3: attempts at comeback, and then to her untimely death.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if they loved that.

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01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 3: If the love that everyone shows now stems from guilt,

2187
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 3: come on, come on, they guilt that guilt that they

2188
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:17,880
Speaker 3: didn't protect her enough to honor her enough while she

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01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 3: was still here. So now we must overcompensate because we

2190
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 3: feel a little responsible. Why do we feel like we

2191
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:26,719
Speaker 3: possessed ownership of these women's talents and if they aren't

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01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 3: used how we see fit, we discard them.

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01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 2: Black lives matter though, right?

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01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 3: I also wonder if Lauren were to die today, how

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01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 3: quickly the vituall.

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01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 2: Will become love?

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01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 3: Right?

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01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:38,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wouldn't.

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01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 3: Houston thing is a great fucking example of Memphis. That's

2200
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 3: a perfect example.

2201
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 2: You know. DiAngelo is a great example too.

2202
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 3: The Angel's a dude that was not comfortable with the

2203
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 3: spotlight disappeared, had all the same like inconsistent of shenanigans

2204
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 3: and shit, we don't hate him though Nigga came back

2205
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 3: with an album. Can't nobody say to understanding words too?

2206
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:03,360
Speaker 3: And it was okay. You know, it's like it was

2207
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 3: just gentler with certain folks to others. But that's a

2208
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 3: great point that Whitney Houston went because I remember when

2209
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:11,679
Speaker 3: the joke was she's a crackhead. She had a whole

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01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:14,799
Speaker 3: last reality show about it. They used to play clips

2211
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 3: on talk Suit. People used to share those clips and

2212
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 3: go viral. And when she died and people went, well,

2213
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 3: she's just a crackhead. Then everybody started feeling bad and

2214
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 3: was like, you can't say that about her, Like, well,

2215
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 3: y'all said that when she was alive. You know, y'all

2216
01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 3: definitely didn't give a fuck. Then it wasn't no, don't

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01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:32,200
Speaker 3: talk about Whitney.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. Death changes people.

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01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know. Huge shout out love and

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01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 3: respect from Arizona. This is from Jay who says, hey,

2221
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 3: Rod and Karen, I'm supposed to be working, but I

2222
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 3: had to stop the shout you both out.

2223
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 2: Found your podcast about six months ago.

2224
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 3: Almost passed it up because but something told me to

2225
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:54,000
Speaker 3: listen to the show for five minutes. Karen, I stand

2226
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 3: for you. Please don't change anything you do. I live

2227
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:00,759
Speaker 3: when you scream out yes. At the time, all the time,

2228
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 3: and your joke and your joke cheap kitty but funniest

2229
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:07,759
Speaker 3: hell ride, your sound effects, amazing, love fucking with black people,

2230
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:09,639
Speaker 3: all of it. Just want to send you out positive

2231
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 3: vibes so I can't all the positive vibes I can

2232
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 3: your way.

2233
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 2: Thank you for what you do for the culture.

2234
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 3: And also thank you for recognizing LGBTQ hashtag, black star

2235
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 3: power hashtag.

2236
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 2: Thank you again the tenth letter. Thanks Jay, thank you.

2237
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 3: We appreciate you. And that was very nice to you

2238
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:33,280
Speaker 3: to write that. And I'm glad you enjoyed the show.

2239
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 2: Marissa Rights and dear Rod and Karen.

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Speaker 3: Let me just say congrass on the live show, which

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01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 3: I could be in Charlotte, but my spider sense tell

2242
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:44,840
Speaker 3: me y'all moving on up.

2243
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 2: Like the Jeffersons. Yeah, and we'll have many a future show.

2244
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 3: Now on the topic ahead, Karen go to hell off

2245
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 3: Cis this bullshit with Serena and the catsuit by the

2246
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 3: French open officials.

2247
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:56,440
Speaker 2: Is racist, sexist trash?

2248
01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 3: How is it a sister is fully closed but they

2249
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 3: deemed not classy. Please that cat suit is not even

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01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 3: the most lick catsuit she wore right that us open

2251
01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 3: cat suit was the one that put her shape on

2252
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 3: the mount rushmore of booty, this recent cat this recent

2253
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 3: cat suit was more about Serena's health and the life

2254
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:18,839
Speaker 3: threatening blood clots that she has dealt with for years

2255
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 3: and most recent during childbirth. Hell, even if it wasn't

2256
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 3: about her health and she just wanted to stunt in

2257
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:28,680
Speaker 3: the suit, so what Tennis the last forty years been

2258
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:32,439
Speaker 3: nothing but short dresses, booty shorts and skirts tank tossed

2259
01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:35,679
Speaker 3: that tend to show some cleavage and the French Open

2260
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 3: had no issues then, just like those damn drug tests

2261
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:42,400
Speaker 3: they do on Serena more than even men and known

2262
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:47,160
Speaker 3: drug sheets like Maria Charpova. It's steeped in racism and sexism.

2263
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 3: As I typed this, the US Opening Open just had

2264
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:53,599
Speaker 3: a situation blow up in their faces where a French player,

2265
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:58,920
Speaker 3: Alise Cornett, was penalized for changing her shirt on the court. Apparently,

2266
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 3: when she changed it during the change over in the

2267
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:02,640
Speaker 3: locker room, the shirt was put on wrong and it

2268
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:04,719
Speaker 3: was uncomfortable for her to play in, so she quickly

2269
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 3: switched the shirt while the symbol where the symbols of

2270
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 3: the bra on the oh while wearing a sports bar

2271
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:14,400
Speaker 3: on the court as given some bogus warning.

2272
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:17,520
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the men players stripped.

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01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 3: Their shirts off all the time, leaving the court sitting

2274
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 3: in their chairs and shitting is all good, right I

2275
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 3: and a lot of women are tired of these ridiculous

2276
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 3: double standards. He throw women, especially black women, was the

2277
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 3: sport fin to be crying like he sweat with Serena's

2278
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 3: and with Serena and Venus is gone by the by

2279
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 3: the way.

2280
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 5: Because the gonna go down. Don't care what you say.

2281
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:41,720
Speaker 5: The gonna tank, by the way.

2282
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 3: The John McCain Republican revisionist history is just par for

2283
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 3: the course because when Ted Kennedy passed away in nineteen

2284
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 3: sixty nine, the incident known as chap equittic was right

2285
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 3: there uh a part of the narrative in every newscast,

2286
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 3: and rightfully so. McKay was a standard bearer Republican. He

2287
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 3: voted a lot of fuck ass policy, but his pow

2288
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 3: War hero status brought him legacy protection others won't get.

2289
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 3: You will see that when it's Bill Clinton times to

2290
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 3: the part the Earth. Anyways, Love the show is always

2291
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:13,920
Speaker 3: enjoyed your live show, Love y'all.

2292
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 2: Marissa from the Bronx. Thanks Marissa.

2293
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:20,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nothing but facts and heat throughout this

2294
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 3: entire email. Come jeff Rice in Hello, love y'all, thoughts

2295
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:30,680
Speaker 3: something this week? Black guy who tells Rody call, what

2296
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 3: is good your live show coming up?

2297
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:34,320
Speaker 2: As I'm so psyched for you guys.

2298
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:37,120
Speaker 3: Seventeen forty four, you guys broke it down on John

2299
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:38,839
Speaker 3: McCain a sign of how.

2300
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 2: Soon we forget and brainwashing.

2301
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:43,000
Speaker 3: Although I have respect to his military service, the man

2302
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 3: went on record saying that he would always hate those

2303
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 3: Goots for his treatment as a pow. And I think

2304
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 3: that says it all about how he feels about people

2305
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 3: of color, whether he even was conscious of it or not.

2306
01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 3: I think he knew damn well.

2307
01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2308
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 3: I think Also he was a dude that made a

2309
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,040
Speaker 3: song out of bomb in Iran, which I don't know

2310
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 3: how that even if you want to bomb Ran because

2311
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 3: you feel like it has serious.

2312
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 2: International like you have reasons to do it.

2313
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 3: Let's say you believe we need to bomb Ran, why

2314
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 3: are you making a trivial song about it.

2315
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:20,880
Speaker 2: Bomb bomb, bomb bombbamb Ran.

2316
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 3: That's not That's not okay, dude, It's not a joke.

2317
01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 3: This isn't a Chapelle's kid you're talking about killing people.

2318
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 3: I understand that the officer the officers of the United

2319
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 3: States means you're probably gonna end up in some sort

2320
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 3: of military conflict.

2321
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 2: At times. You can't be cavalier about it.

2322
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:46,920
Speaker 3: You have to have some level of certainty and seriousness

2323
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 3: about what you're undertaking.

2324
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.

2325
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 3: He actively fought against anything that could benefit black and

2326
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 3: brown people who he rapped Arizona folks. Never said, don't

2327
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 3: sleep seventeen forty five, Lauren this arena. Frankly, hearing Galasparus

2328
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 3: found off on Lauren was embarrassing. As a musician and

2329
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 3: a freelancer myself, I can dig his sentiments, cancelations and

2330
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 3: lateness is excusable. Though her ex father in law, the

2331
01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:11,480
Speaker 3: Mighty Bob Marley, played a gig after having a stroke

2332
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 3: from cancer. But it makes me want to say to Glassper,

2333
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 3: you took the money, so what you look like throwing shade?

2334
01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:20,520
Speaker 3: I think he lost some fans on that. I for one,

2335
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:22,680
Speaker 3: won't listen to too much of him now. As her

2336
01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 3: reply makes clear, Lauren Hill is a fierce intellectual as

2337
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:30,480
Speaker 3: she naturally intimidates men, and, like Beyonce, a wonder worldwide name,

2338
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:33,880
Speaker 3: and like I felt with Beyonce, that should not have

2339
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:36,600
Speaker 3: had She should not have had to explain it so

2340
01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:39,760
Speaker 3: much personal detail. We all know if it were a

2341
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 3: white man or white woman. Even Serena's story covering fucking

2342
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 3: with black people section perfectly to hell with these stuck

2343
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 3: up races and their exclusive sporting events, they make themselves

2344
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 3: look like the insecure losers they are. As Karen said,

2345
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 3: the TV ratings are thanks to Serena, Venus and Tiger

2346
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:01,000
Speaker 3: though he doesn't really like at all.

2347
01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:03,440
Speaker 5: Hell, it don't matter. We're gonna love him forever. No

2348
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:04,440
Speaker 5: matter what people say.

2349
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 6: Niggas is secretly fucking with Tiger and studies into and

2350
01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:10,400
Speaker 6: them numbers show Tiger plan.

2351
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:12,440
Speaker 5: Niggas is coming Taiger.

2352
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 6: Niggas ain't watching period, regardless of capitalan Asian, whatever the

2353
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:17,960
Speaker 6: fuck you call himself.

2354
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,560
Speaker 2: You know what, that's the realationship you ever said right there?

2355
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 2: Keep taking that money, sisters.

2356
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 3: With each episode you guys have been even more beautifully

2357
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:28,800
Speaker 3: vocal about your feelings on racial social justice and you

2358
01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:32,240
Speaker 3: are own point as always. Please keep this lifelong, this

2359
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 3: lifeline going for us.

2360
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 2: It is so appreciated. All love and respect.

2361
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 3: Jeff in Osaka Japan. Shout out to you man Japan.

2362
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 3: All right, that's that's what's up. Last one. Ms marcha

2363
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:48,680
Speaker 3: Kin says, Hi, rid of care. I'm a Robert Glasper

2364
01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 3: fan and have been for years. So when I watched

2365
01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:52,520
Speaker 3: that interview, I was cringing the whole time.

2366
01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:55,520
Speaker 2: Like no, yeah. The first person I.

2367
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 3: Thought of was James Brown, then Prince because if either

2368
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 3: one of them were to pulled what Miss Hire was

2369
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:04,720
Speaker 3: merely accused of, people would have said, genius, he knows

2370
01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:07,080
Speaker 3: what he wants. He's tough, but it's his name up there.

2371
01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 5: They both for fire people and all kinds of shit.

2372
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 6: Come on.

2373
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 3: People were sharing a video of Michael Jackson on Facebook

2374
01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:17,320
Speaker 3: where he fired a dude and he fired him like

2375
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 3: on beat, like he's like David, when you gonna get

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01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:24,000
Speaker 3: a job, Like he was singing and everything, and because

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01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:28,080
Speaker 3: he didn't stop the song on time, and so Michael

2378
01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:31,480
Speaker 3: Jackson made, you know, like he just kept singing like

2379
01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 3: he was singing song lyrics, but he was actually saying

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01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 3: this nigga was fired.

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01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 2: Oh, And people were sharing it, and I'm like, do

2382
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 2: y'all have no sense of irony? Y'all literally just.

2383
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:47,440
Speaker 3: Got y'all said Lauren Hill doesn't treat bands fairly for

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01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 3: firing them, which she said, actually I don't fire people,

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01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:56,520
Speaker 3: but for firing them. According to y'all, she'd be stunting

2386
01:59:56,560 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 3: on them too hard. And I guarantee she's never done

2387
02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:05,240
Speaker 3: that shit. And yet somehow one of you know it's

2388
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:07,200
Speaker 3: okay for one person doing not the next.

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02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:09,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, if it's bad behavior, wouldn't it be bad

2390
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:14,160
Speaker 2: for it all the time. I don't get it. Standard, Like,

2391
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 2: what's the main difference here?

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02:00:15,640 --> 02:00:18,000
Speaker 5: You know, a woman, that's the main difference.

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02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:20,600
Speaker 3: What I can't stand is how people who don't perform

2394
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 3: always come out on solo artists when they don't do

2395
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 3: everything themselves. No one does as Alicia steal your man,

2396
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:30,960
Speaker 3: then take you to the beach keys saying no one

2397
02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:35,000
Speaker 3: but but since it is their name, it is often

2398
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:37,520
Speaker 3: their vision of how they want to be received and

2399
02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:40,360
Speaker 3: their reputation on the line, so they have final say.

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02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:43,200
Speaker 3: The miseducation Lauren Hill is a masterpiece and a group effort,

2401
02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:46,320
Speaker 3: No doubt, boundaries should have been set and very likely

2402
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:49,680
Speaker 3: credits should have been check given and checks cut.

2403
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:50,720
Speaker 2: She was young.

2404
02:00:50,840 --> 02:00:53,360
Speaker 3: It's resolved, now, Why bring it up? Oh to shoot

2405
02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 3: on a black woman. Uh, that's why in your direct

2406
02:00:56,840 --> 02:01:00,440
Speaker 3: thread to Beyonce, I was like, get out of my head.

2407
02:01:00,520 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 2: That's why she is the way she is.

2408
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:05,160
Speaker 3: Some people have mastered social media in different ways, like

2409
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:08,360
Speaker 3: miss Bado because you have to control your narrative. And

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02:01:08,440 --> 02:01:11,400
Speaker 3: I had someone say they like Solange more because Beyonce

2411
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:16,320
Speaker 3: is run by the machine. What listen, when are we

2412
02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:18,480
Speaker 3: going to give her credit for her image? Not to

2413
02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:23,240
Speaker 3: mention like they from the fucking same place. If Beyonce's

2414
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:27,000
Speaker 3: images the manicured image of the machine, that's so as

2415
02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 3: fucking Solanges.

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02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:30,920
Speaker 2: Maybe this just who she is, don't you know?

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02:01:31,120 --> 02:01:35,000
Speaker 3: Like maybe if it's manicured and whatever, she medicured the shit.

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02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:36,320
Speaker 2: So still give her problems?

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02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:37,600
Speaker 5: And why people do it all the time.

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02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:39,200
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody telling her what to do?

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02:01:40,640 --> 02:01:40,760
Speaker 7: Uh?

2422
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:42,840
Speaker 3: She is thirty six with a husband and three kids

2423
02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 3: and Miss Tina as her mama and Solange as her sister.

2424
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:48,000
Speaker 2: Why can't she be black and proud?

2425
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:48,760
Speaker 4: Right?

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02:01:49,080 --> 02:01:50,880
Speaker 2: It's like she has to be the colde and the

2427
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 2: other two women are black, Like, what does that mean?

2428
02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:54,400
Speaker 2: It's the same family.

2429
02:01:55,640 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 3: Why can't she be credited for the vision and final

2430
02:01:57,760 --> 02:02:00,240
Speaker 3: decisions made in her image? Of her production and I

2431
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:03,160
Speaker 3: like Solon too, no doubt, but Beyonce is a better performer.

2432
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:06,240
Speaker 3: Salons may be a better songwriter, but Beyonce works hard

2433
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:07,640
Speaker 3: and there's a performance perfectionist.

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02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:08,800
Speaker 2: Much like MJ.

2435
02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:11,840
Speaker 3: He too got to start, got his start with a

2436
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:14,720
Speaker 3: father in control, but it was his work, talent and

2437
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:16,680
Speaker 3: artistry that turned him into the legend.

2438
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:18,839
Speaker 2: He was much like Beyonce.

2439
02:02:19,560 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 3: Why people want to give her credit to her team

2440
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:24,320
Speaker 3: other people when it's her and her name and her

2441
02:02:24,320 --> 02:02:27,280
Speaker 3: reputation on the line, and they think she just shows up.

2442
02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:30,640
Speaker 3: None of the grace have just showed up for that long?

2443
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:33,920
Speaker 3: How many album towards records performances she got to do

2444
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:36,480
Speaker 3: to get credit for her craft. I'm sorry this is

2445
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:38,880
Speaker 3: a long but y'all had me fired up. See y'all

2446
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:42,320
Speaker 3: in a few weeks at the Tips Conference a Tips conference,

2447
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:48,520
Speaker 3: Tips con Nah, thank thank you for right now. And

2448
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:51,640
Speaker 3: that's everybody who This is also.

2449
02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 2: A kind of a long show.

2450
02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:53,400
Speaker 5: I had a lot to say.

2451
02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did a lot of reading carters over there, chilling.

2452
02:02:57,040 --> 02:02:59,160
Speaker 5: That's what I do. You know, I'm the real talent.

2453
02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:00,000
Speaker 5: I'm the MB.

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02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:05,040
Speaker 3: Tomorrow actually we will be starting at ten am and

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02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:09,480
Speaker 3: we actually have a guest. It's gonna be Mike and

2456
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:11,240
Speaker 3: Elizabeth from we just saw a movie.

2457
02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:16,120
Speaker 5: Yay, Dad's gonna be fun. They are the best.

2458
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:18,120
Speaker 3: Right, we don't normally have white people on the show.

2459
02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:20,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to tomorrow and we love them.

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02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:22,920
Speaker 5: Oh, they have so much fun, y'all, Like, I love it.

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02:03:23,160 --> 02:03:24,800
Speaker 3: I love that podcast. I don't know if y'all have

2462
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:27,280
Speaker 3: listened to it, but go check it out. They're normally

2463
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:31,160
Speaker 3: very short reviews. They are fucking hilarious. Yeah, they cracked

2464
02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:34,320
Speaker 3: me up. I suggest the Mile twenty two review. I

2465
02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:36,320
Speaker 3: know most of y'all haven't seen the movie. That's fine,

2466
02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:40,840
Speaker 3: but Mike has a really great impression of Mark Wahlberg

2467
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:45,000
Speaker 3: and that joint and it was amazing. Yes, the cat

2468
02:03:45,120 --> 02:03:48,240
Speaker 3: is cracking up in the car, and like they're both

2469
02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:51,000
Speaker 3: they're both very funny and stuff. So as a couple

2470
02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:53,560
Speaker 3: that goes don't have kids and go to the movie

2471
02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:55,680
Speaker 3: a lot, I feel like we will get along.

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02:03:56,160 --> 02:03:59,080
Speaker 2: Yes, all right until tomorrow. I love you.

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02:03:59,120 --> 02:04:00,560
Speaker 5: I love you too. Yah