WEBVTT - Draft Show: On the Clock 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:04.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:05.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:08.840 Cowboys. 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:16.720 This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:20.560 room for insider news and draft analysis from deep within 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:24.280 the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star and Frisco. 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:31.600 Welcome back into the Miller Lite Dallas Cowboys Draft Show. 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.600 Very excited we are one day away? Does this feel 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.120 real now? Friends? I mean, this is like Holy Cow. 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:40.239 It is the night before. It is like Christmas Eve 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:43.520 for us, all the draft preparation, it is finally here 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.400 Aisha Morrison with us. Here, Brian brought us, Nick Harris, 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.839 I'm Zach Wilchuck Brian at somebody that's gotten to live this. Yeah, 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.000 Now the Hayes inthebarn as you would say, or is 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.440 there still some tinkering and maybe some nervous ticks, like 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.840 we're gonna go ahead and still have some debates and 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:00.480 conversations the night of Yeah. 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.080 I think right now where it is is it's about 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.480 the mechanics of the draft and how you feel like 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:08.840 that maybe some of this might fall ahead of you 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.480 and potentially what can come from the rear of the 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:14.920 draft and I mean, you know, the guys down at 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.520 the bottom, the Buffalo's, the Baltimore's, the Kansas City's, the 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.319 San Francisco's. Maybe there's somebody in the top of the 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.640 second round that's going to come diving up there, and 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:27.440 you have to be prepared that if you're a guys 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.160 sitting there, that there's a possibly that you might lose 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.120 your guy. So it's very nerve wracking right now. But 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.680 they're really just working on the mechanics of how this 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.119 thing is going to fall, just like what we've been 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:43.160 doing with mock drafts discussions. The pro guys are working 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.160 the phones. You got buddies around the league that you 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:50.080 really trust, and maybe they're not anywhere near you on 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.600 the board, but maybe you got a friend of yours 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.920 that a team that's say fifteen spots ahead of you, 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.680 and you're like, hey, what are you hearing? Man? Okay, 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:03.920 and then he I remember in a draft, the Marcus 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.680 Ware Draft, I got on the phone with John Gruden, 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.320 who was ahead of us at Tampa, and that's when 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.800 John took Cadillac Williams, the running back from Alburn, and 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.040 I asked John, I said, Hey, if you were to 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.239 take a defensive player, who would you take? And he 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.160 said I would take where. I'm like okay, and he goes. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.720 I think the only player he goes, The only player 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.600 that I'm hearing defensively that people would trade up for 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:29.480 in this draft is where. And so I was like, okay, 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.800 that's great information. So yeah, you're trading a lot of 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:35.720 information with your buddies. You're trying to get an idea 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.639 what's happening behind you. Again, it's all very very important 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.080 because you just don't want to get caught off guard that. Like, 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.920 you know, you're sitting there, everything looks comfortable, everything looks good, 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.160 and then all of a sudden, a curveball's thrown your 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.480 direction and you have to be ready to adapt to 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.919 change to did we work the phones enough to where 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:57.960 we could trade back if we have to? So the 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:02.079 board set, stack set, Uh, everything looks pretty up there 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.600 right now. You just wish those tags would start glowing 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:06.760 for all the Hall of Fame players, Yeah that are 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.320 going to be in this class. But yeah, it's a 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:11.600 it's an exciting time and you know you could sit 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:13.880 back and take a breath, but you just want to 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.440 make sure you have everything kind of buttoned up with 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.400 all your details, all your notes, and then have your 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:25.320 uh how have your scenarios ready if something were to happen. 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.680 Well, we'll get into some of those scenarios here with 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.839 a little mock draft simulation kind of see maybe what 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.200 happens around the Cowboys pick. But yesterday, of course we 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.520 had the pre draft presser, Nick, you were there and 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.960 you got to ask the question about, Hey, the trick 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.200 you asked the only draft quick the trade back? I mean, 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.200 how we feel. What were some of your takeaways from that? 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:45.880 Yeah, so I was we were able to get a 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:47.840 draft question, and I was super excited about it. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:48.360 I know you were. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.640 I was just waiting the whole time draft calls. 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:53.800 Get ready, Nick's gonna ask one right here? 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.280 Uh yeah, But I asked about, you know, not having 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.960 those middle round picks, is there more of an intrigue 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:01.760 towards potentially trading. 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.200 Back if your guy is not there at twenty four? 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.360 And Jerry Jones said it's very likely to have an 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.440 opportunity to do that, given the right people left on 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.240 the board or the wrong people gone off the board, 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.480 and the right trade. Later on he said, really, there's 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.760 a lot of variables here as to whether you'd go 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:18.400 up or down. 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.840 Obviously, we'd like to have some mid round picks. 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.440 So you take that and you understand, you know, you 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.559 know kind of where their board is, and you would 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.720 have to you know, I guess a little bit from 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.800 our point of view obviously, But for me, again, I 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.320 still feel like if there's a certain handful of guys 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:34.880 that are not there at twenty four, I think there's 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.279 an opportunity to trade back. You look at Buffalo, you 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.359 look at Kansas City, both of those teams potentially looking 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.159 to move up and take a receiver. I think you 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.600 could also look at Baltimore in that same sense, moving 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.240 up to take a guy, whether that be a receiver 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.279 or an offensive lineman. Granted, that would probably hurt the Cowboys, 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.320 but they'd be able to move back six spots and 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.560 still pick up some draft capital if they like multiple 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.320 guys still there late in the first round. But the 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.680 way it's it's kind of shaping up right now, and 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:00.320 all the smoke that's kind of coming out out of 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.520 you know, potential Day one trades is teams are either 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.839 going to be moving up for receivers or they're moving 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:06.839 up for offensive linemen. 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:08.200 And if you are the Cowboys. 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.200 Are you comfortable letting a team move up to take 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.680 an offensive lineman that you potentially would have taken if 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.200 that means you can get more picks in the next 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.720 couple of days. So you know, that's probably the conversation 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.200 that they're having up there, and those are the things 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.240 you weigh out. I think for me, I think there 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.159 is a healthy handful of guys there in that twenty 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.480 four to thirty five range that you can grab at 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.479 any point and I think be comfortable with. Obviously you'd 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.560 have some above others and things of that nature, but 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.120 if your first round, if your first round guys are gone, 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.080 then maybe you look into that and maybe look into 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.880 doing that. For me, again, it's Troy Falton, who JC 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.120 Latham and Graham Barton. If those three guys are off 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.120 the board, I'm getting on the phone, and I think, 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.800 as of right now, this is just my personal belief 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.040 is Kansas City's the most likely opportunity. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.960 Okay, this is what I wanted to ask you guys, 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.800 And we've did the We did the show where we 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:55.760 traded back and we kind of talked about what you 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:57.360 could get out of that. The threes and the fourth 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.640 depending on where you get to handicapped teams that are 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.120 more likely to trade up behind you. If you had 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:09.680 to say Baltimore, Buffalo, San Francisco, Kansas City rank them, 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:13.640 because I in my mind, I don't see the Ravens 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:14.680 as a trade up team. 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:15.280 I don't think so. 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:20.000 Ravens to me, have always had a history of they 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.160 sit there and the best player falls right to them. 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:30.200 As likes to talk about chaos. Ozzie Knewsim and that 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.920 crew over there. The chaos. It's the old meme where 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.440 the building's burning and everybody in the little little character 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.839 standing there as things. It's okay, that's the Baltimore Ravens 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.240 to me. But if I had to handicap the teams 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:48.440 that could be super aggressive here, I don't know what 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.640 an order I would put him in between Baltimore, San 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.159 Francisco and Kansas City. 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.360 I do think Buffalo is the team for me. I'd 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.440 foret one Buffalo because I think you mentioned I think 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:01.480 Brandon Bean likes that. 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:02.400 I think you just too. 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:06.080 I wouldn't be shocked if we saw Buffalo get super aggressive. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.120 They try and go with Atlanta Falcon. Julio Jones ask like 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.120 they say, Hey, we want Roma doun Za, right, we 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.840 want one of these elite top three receivers, and they're 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:16.640 trying to talk to move up into the top ten 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.280 of this draft. I could see Buffalo pulling the trigger 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:20.400 on something wild like that. 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.120 I can see that as well, just because there's some 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:26.680 pressure there in that organization with how they've not you know, 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.160 risen to the occasion and obviously the loss of Stefan 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.560 Diggs this offseason as well. To your point, Yeah, they 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.360 very well could be trying to make sure they get 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.600 a receiver in there to make sure they can continue 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:37.680 to do what they want offensively. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:39.720 Yeah, so I think, I mean, I don't know if 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:44.520 you agree. I youah, I'd probably go Buffalo, Kansas City, 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.880 San Francisco, and then Baltimore in that order. 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.120 I would switch San Franco Kansas I. 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.880 Would too maybe. I mean, I'm trying to just think 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.679 back on when it's San Francisco really moved. 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.440 They did a great trade with you. They drafted the 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.920 safety that the year you took It's so funny, the 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:06.280 year you took Travis Frederick. Maybe this is the deja 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:10.280 vous moment here for your Dallas Cowboys. But uh, you know, 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.000 being you probably need a center, and they were they 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:17.000 but Dallas ended up taking Travis Frederick. They took a safety, 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:21.560 my lsu safety. But yeah, so it was to me, 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:27.600 I I think Kansas City. I would rate Kansas City 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:32.320 over San Francisco on the aggressiveness meter. Buffalo I would 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.480 put in there because you're right about Brandon Bean. Brandon Beans. 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.240 Brandon Bean's attitude is like, listen, if I don't do 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.559 something and we don't win, I'm gonna get fired. Eric 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.840 Eric Reed's the safety was, yeah, there you go. Massive trade. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.920 They went. They went from the bottom of the draft 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:50.880 to the middle of the draft. So uh, but let's see. 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.600 I I just wonder what teams if I had to, 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.920 I don't think Baltimore is the team, but I think 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:58.520 all those other ones are in play. 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.280 I'd go Casey one and two, San fran three, Buffalo 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.600 four Ravens. And because it also has to work for 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.280 both sides, and if it works for the Cowboys, it 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.920 means that they have to pick up capital in this draft. 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.440 You look at what Buffalo has. They don't have a third, 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.960 they do have two fourths, yeah, and then they have 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:18.000 a mid second. So I don't think that they would 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.240 move off that second, so you'd probably be looking at 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.680 either both of those fourths or a fourth and a fifth. 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.120 That would be kind of the question there. For Kansas 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.640 City first, second, third, fourth, fifth, fifth, seventh, so pretty 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:32.080 straight down the line. For the forty nine ers first, second, third, 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.200 and then three fourths, so that's something to keep an 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.120 eye on. And then the Ravens first, second, third, two fourths, 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.600 three fourths you said, yeah, three fourths for the forty 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:42.760 nine ers, one in the trey Lance trade from the 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.520 Cowboys their own pick, and then they got a competitory 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:46.079 pick as well. 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.480 I ain't gonna give it back. No, they like, we 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.400 already intog it. Why will we give it back? 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:51.160 Yeah? 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.320 Okay, let's it would make it a lot easier to stomach, 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:53.640 for sure. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.880 Right, let's look at some of the simulation here. What's 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.040 going on around the Cowboys pick at twenty four. This 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:01.719 stuff always kind of gets me giddy, especially in the 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.280 day before the draft go ahead. This is this is 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.320 interesting because you do have some sliding offensive tackles that 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:12.160 we like here. Okay, so Fulaga Oregon State ends up 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.920 going to the Bengals at eighteen fell a little bit. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:16.679 I think we're looking at him, maybe even going to 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:21.480 the top ten. Yeah, eighteen, how about Troy Fountain Fountain Faltanu, 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.280 the offensive ttack from Washington goes nineteen to the Rams. 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:28.439 She got two tackles going eighteen nineteen. Right in front 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:33.720 of you. Minnesota takes Power Johnson at twenty three. So 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.199 there's a center off the board. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:40.400 I am. I know in that situation, Minnesota makes that pick. 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:45.120 I said this yesterday and I believe it. I think 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.120 this could be New England's pick. I think that might 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:51.200 be somebody's pick at the when we start this day, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.480 I could see New England baling out of there on three. Yeah, 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.560 I know that. I know they're talked about. Hey, you know, 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.000 I just think that Minnesota someone's going to get a grad. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.360 Minnesota is, I think, going to get aggressive with that 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.800 third pick if they can get it. I would if 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.280 I was in Dallas's war room, I would be planning 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.400 on somebody else picking ahead of me, other than Minnesota 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:11.160 at twenty three. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.679 Yeah, Chargers also have to be a thought. I think 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.520 Broncos are probably a thought. There's there's a lot of 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.360 I'm with you. I don't think Minnesota is picking at 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:18.800 twenty three. 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.800 Yeah, No, I think they're going to package both their 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.199 picks move up. I think you make a good point 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:22.680 about Newing. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.880 I just I just think you have to be again 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.800 Elliott Wolf. You know this is Elliott's really the introim 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.720 general manager of needs. Yeah, it has a lot of needs. 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:32.559 He knows what his team is. He knows he has 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.199 to have a quarterback. How far back can he go 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.280 to get a quarterback? I just think if you're Dallas, 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.080 you have to be ready for somebody else picking in 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.840 front of you. Uh with other than other than the 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.439 Minnesota Vikings. I think we would but go ahead and 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:49.240 say it again. Offensive lineman, when did the when was 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.640 the first tackle taken? Do you do you have that 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.600 ability to tell me? Because we talked about when the 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.959 tackle run what's going to start? 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.920 It actually started at nine with the Bears. They told 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:04.520 Olu Fishanu at nine he was the first tackle off 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.440 the board from Penn State. Alt ends up sliding to 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:11.160 fourteen in this simulation with the Saints, and then you 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:16.320 had Mims go sixteen to Seattle, Filuaga eighteen to the Bengals, 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.599 and uh Futanu at nineteen to the Rams. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.640 The first five is it wide receiver. 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:22.960 Is it? 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:23.600 Is it amazing? 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.679 Okay, You've actually got a pretty good selection here of 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.840 guys to choose from. Byron Murphy out of Texas would 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.760 be my highest rated player. Cooper dejene is there, the 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.680 cornerback at Iowa. But then the two guys to the Cowboys. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.760 I mean we're assuming offensive line. J. C. Latham is 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.000 still there from Bamo, which I know you talked to 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.200 a GM buddy, so there's no way this happens. 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:43.959 Yeah, I don't. Yeah. The thing about it is my 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.080 guy was like he when I mentioned the names that 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:48.800 you know off to what you were talking about, the 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:50.480 guys that you were holding. I gave him the three 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.240 names that you like and Latham being one of them, 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.440 and he goes, man, Latham ain't gonna be there for 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.560 you guys. Yeah, I think so, he you know, And 0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:59.760 I'm like, I mean this kind of stimulation, I kind 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:00.840 of redo the simulation. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.360 I don't think this is accurate at all. But you 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:02.679 never know. 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.000 That's craziness the draft, the craziness of the draft. But 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:06.960 I think you have an idea. You're just trying to 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.559 get an idea where this run might start and where 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.520 are you going to be in the run. Are you 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.280 going to you know the fact that it's I'm okay, 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.800 you know with these I don't know about you guys, 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.640 and I issue you've accused me of this, and you're 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.800 absolutely right. I'm hell been on getting a center, I 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.560 really am. I'm feeling the same way and I am 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:28.720 hell been on that. And because I just feel like 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:33.320 though that maybe that center can help me more right 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.640 now than that tackle, because I just in my mind, 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.560 I know, and Nick, I know this drives your damn nuts. 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.040 I know in my heart I can move that left 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:44.720 guard to tackle if I had to. 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:46.880 It doesn't drive me nuts. I understand it. But it's 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:47.679 just not my preference. 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.360 But I understand I don't think. I don't think it's 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.679 the Cowboys preference either. Yeah, I don't think it's their 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:52.360 preference either. 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.880 So in this situation, I think you're right. In terms 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.840 of Latham, Barton and then Guidens, the best tackle left 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.640 out of Oklahoma's those would be probably your top five options. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.440 That are Aisha Murphy out of Texas, Cooper Degene at Iowa, 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.640 and then the three offensive linemen with Latham, Barton and Geidon. 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:10.679 I talked to a team that kind of has an 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.800 understanding what Jacksonville wis Jacksonville they had seventeen eighteen eighteen. 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.960 Yeah, and Jacksonville went with Robinson at a Penn State 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:20.840 choson at seventeen. 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.920 But I feel like rich. I feel like, yeah, some 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.880 slander going on there. Uh the uh, it is a 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:32.400 little rich. The uh Jacksonville. I was getting the hint 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:37.080 or the whisper that they're looking at corner makes sense. 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:37.480 Yeah. 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.800 And I was even asked about your guye Degene. I 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.080 was asked, I was asked about Degene, what do you 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:46.640 think about him? And they? And but I I gave it. 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.000 I said, you gotta take Mitchell. Mitchell's the guy got 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:50.360 to take. 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:52.160 And there was a little bit of a run on 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:52.680 the corner. 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.920 Arnold's gone. That's I know, you're on your board, on 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.560 your board. Arnold would be the second guy. I think 0:14:58.600 --> 0:14:59.200 I got that right. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.200 Yeah, And I've got that flip. I've got Arnold one 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.359 and Mitchell too. But Arnold was gone. In this simulation 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.000 at twelve to Denver, They're gonna pair two Alabama corners 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.880 there with certain and Arnold. That's pretty nice. And then 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:13.440 you had back to back corners go with Mitchell to Miami. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.440 Nate Wiggins from Clemson ends up going to Philly at 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.880 twenty two. But in this scenario, I think the Cowboys 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:20.880 are pretty happy at twenty four with Latham and Barton 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:21.720 both sitting on the board. 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.280 Mitchell to Miami would be nasty. We go ahead, go 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:28.120 ask question, Mitchell would nasty? 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:33.480 How would you feel about Wiggins at Philadelphia? Would it 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:34.960 be like, you know, Okay. 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.720 That's one of those like pentthrows from me. I'm oh, 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.360 that's fine with well, I'm not as high. 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:39.840 I don't think that. 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:41.040 I'm okay with that. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.440 I'm fine with Nate Wigans. 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.000 It sounds so terrible, but Philly hasn't shown me they 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.280 know how to really coach cornerback over there as of 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:53.360 the last so I don't care because they got Sidney 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:54.640 Brown over there looking christy. 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.960 Yeah, they've had to go outside the organization, bringing Darius Slay, 0:15:58.240 --> 0:15:59.160 bringing Brad. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.400 Bearry tired, yeah, safety, Yeah, they've been. 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.520 Any of the guys that they've drafted and tried to develop. 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:04.600 You're one hundred percent right, that. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.320 Is not like it kind of like giants and the 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.480 Giants and offensive lineman. Yeah. Yeah, they've thrown a lot 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:10.160 of resources. 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.720 You talk about players, we could be totally wrong about Wiggins. 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:14.840 Is that guy? For me, I got a tow Wiggins. 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.280 But a lot of people love Nate Wiggins. Man. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.000 They're scared of that one seventy three guys. Yeah, speed 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.240 is real starting the speed is legit. 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:24.800 Speed is his best attribute. 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:26.880 Because a guy asked me in the league this morning, 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.360 he goes, what do you think about Wiggins? And I'm thinking, well, 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.080 he's won seventy three the guys, Yeah he is, And 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.040 I go, but you know the thing about him is 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.280 if he misses on the press, the way he recovers, 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.080 the foot quickness, the speed and all. 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:39.880 That he can mirror. 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.280 Yeah, and that's that's that's the I think that's his 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.520 saving grace right now, is that mirror, the ability to 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.280 mirror right there. But we're but we're in good shape 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:54.120 because in this simulation right here, Barton, okay and lath 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.680 Power ranked the guys that yeah power, Oh you got 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.840 Latham to Power ranked the guys that you have available? 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.000 Oh many, Murphy? 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:03.880 Who else? 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:10.280 Latham? Barton Murphy did gene Guiton. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.600 That's my order that would be mine too. Yeah, that's 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:14.240 my order there. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.520 And you guys know my affinity for Barton, but I've 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.919 got JC Latham just a little bit higher than him 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:19.520 on my stack. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:20.520 Who's the last guy? 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:21.320 Uh? 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:25.280 The last guy I put in was Guidon Oklahoma because 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.280 I got Degene graded a little bit higher than Guiden. 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.200 I don't have Guiden in the first I've got Guiden 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:29.920 into the second round. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:30.399 Tackle. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.840 Ah, that's tough with Latham and Barton. I think that's 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:37.920 what the war room debate ends up being, do you 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.359 want and then Latham, I assume would be a guard 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.520 to get over myself and there and for them, So 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.440 I mean that comes down to, uh, do you want 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.280 to go ahead and fill your center need with Ram Barton, 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:49.639 who also has position flex. 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:51.640 I don't think Latham would necessarily be like a home 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.719 run guard though, like right off rip, I think they 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:55.720 could go into OTA's going to training camp and see 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.080