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Speaker 3: Welcome back into the Miller Lite Dallas Cowboys Draft Show.

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Speaker 3: Very excited we are one day away? Does this feel

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Speaker 3: real now? Friends? I mean, this is like Holy Cow.

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Speaker 3: It is the night before. It is like Christmas Eve

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Speaker 3: for us, all the draft preparation, it is finally here

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Speaker 3: Aisha Morrison with us. Here, Brian brought us, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 3: I'm Zach Wilchuck Brian at somebody that's gotten to live this. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Now the Hayes inthebarn as you would say, or is

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Speaker 3: there still some tinkering and maybe some nervous ticks, like

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Speaker 3: we're gonna go ahead and still have some debates and

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Speaker 3: conversations the night of Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think right now where it is is it's about

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Speaker 2: the mechanics of the draft and how you feel like

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Speaker 2: that maybe some of this might fall ahead of you

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Speaker 2: and potentially what can come from the rear of the

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Speaker 2: draft and I mean, you know, the guys down at

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Speaker 2: the bottom, the Buffalo's, the Baltimore's, the Kansas City's, the

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Speaker 2: San Francisco's. Maybe there's somebody in the top of the

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Speaker 2: second round that's going to come diving up there, and

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Speaker 2: you have to be prepared that if you're a guys

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Speaker 2: sitting there, that there's a possibly that you might lose

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Speaker 2: your guy. So it's very nerve wracking right now. But

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Speaker 2: they're really just working on the mechanics of how this

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Speaker 2: thing is going to fall, just like what we've been

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Speaker 2: doing with mock drafts discussions. The pro guys are working

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Speaker 2: the phones. You got buddies around the league that you

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Speaker 2: really trust, and maybe they're not anywhere near you on

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Speaker 2: the board, but maybe you got a friend of yours

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Speaker 2: that a team that's say fifteen spots ahead of you,

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Speaker 2: and you're like, hey, what are you hearing? Man? Okay,

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Speaker 2: and then he I remember in a draft, the Marcus

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Speaker 2: Ware Draft, I got on the phone with John Gruden,

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Speaker 2: who was ahead of us at Tampa, and that's when

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Speaker 2: John took Cadillac Williams, the running back from Alburn, and

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Speaker 2: I asked John, I said, Hey, if you were to

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Speaker 2: take a defensive player, who would you take? And he

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Speaker 2: said I would take where. I'm like okay, and he goes.

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Speaker 2: I think the only player he goes, The only player

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Speaker 2: that I'm hearing defensively that people would trade up for

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Speaker 2: that's great information. So yeah, you're trading a lot of

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Speaker 2: information with your buddies. You're trying to get an idea

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Speaker 2: what's happening behind you. Again, it's all very very important

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Speaker 2: because you just don't want to get caught off guard that. Like,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're sitting there, everything looks comfortable, everything looks good,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, a curveball's thrown your

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Speaker 2: direction and you have to be ready to adapt to

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Speaker 2: change to did we work the phones enough to where

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Speaker 2: we could trade back if we have to? So the

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Speaker 2: board set, stack set, Uh, everything looks pretty up there

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Speaker 2: right now. You just wish those tags would start glowing

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Speaker 2: for all the Hall of Fame players, Yeah that are

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Speaker 2: it's an exciting time and you know you could sit

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Speaker 2: make sure you have everything kind of buttoned up with

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Speaker 2: all your details, all your notes, and then have your

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Speaker 2: uh how have your scenarios ready if something were to happen.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll get into some of those scenarios here with

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Speaker 3: a little mock draft simulation kind of see maybe what

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Speaker 3: happens around the Cowboys pick. But yesterday, of course we

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Speaker 3: had the pre draft presser, Nick, you were there and

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Speaker 3: you asked the only draft quick the trade back? I mean,

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Speaker 3: how we feel. What were some of your takeaways from that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was we were able to get a

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Speaker 2: I know you were.

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Speaker 3: I was just waiting the whole time draft calls.

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Speaker 2: Get ready, Nick's gonna ask one right here?

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, But I asked about, you know, not having

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Speaker 5: Back if your guy is not there at twenty four?

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Speaker 4: And Jerry Jones said it's very likely to have an

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Speaker 5: Obviously, we'd like to have some mid round picks.

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Speaker 4: So you take that and you understand, you know, you

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Speaker 4: an opportunity to trade back. You look at Buffalo, you

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Speaker 5: And if you are the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Are you comfortable letting a team move up to take

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Speaker 4: as of right now, this is just my personal belief

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is what I wanted to ask you guys,

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Speaker 2: And we've did the We did the show where we

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Speaker 5: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Ravens to me, have always had a history of they

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Speaker 2: As likes to talk about chaos. Ozzie Knewsim and that

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Speaker 2: to me. But if I had to handicap the teams

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Speaker 2: that could be super aggressive here, I don't know what

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Speaker 3: I do think Buffalo is the team for me. I'd

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Speaker 3: foret one Buffalo because I think you mentioned I think

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Speaker 3: Brandon Bean likes that.

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Speaker 2: I think you just too.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked if we saw Buffalo get super aggressive.

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Speaker 3: They try and go with Atlanta Falcon. Julio Jones ask like

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Speaker 3: they say, Hey, we want Roma doun Za, right, we

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Speaker 3: want one of these elite top three receivers, and they're

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Speaker 6: I can see that as well, just because there's some

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Speaker 6: pressure there in that organization with how they've not you know,

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Speaker 6: Diggs this offseason as well. To your point, Yeah, they

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Speaker 6: very well could be trying to make sure they get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think, I mean, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you agree. I youah, I'd probably go Buffalo, Kansas City,

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Speaker 3: San Francisco, and then Baltimore in that order.

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Speaker 7: I would switch San Franco Kansas I.

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Speaker 3: Would too maybe. I mean, I'm trying to just think

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Speaker 3: back on when it's San Francisco really moved.

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Speaker 2: They did a great trade with you. They drafted the

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Speaker 2: safety that the year you took It's so funny, the

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Speaker 2: year you took Travis Frederick. Maybe this is the deja

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Speaker 2: vous moment here for your Dallas Cowboys. But uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: but Dallas ended up taking Travis Frederick. They took a safety,

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Speaker 2: I I think Kansas City. I would rate Kansas City

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Speaker 2: put in there because you're right about Brandon Bean. Brandon Beans.

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean's attitude is like, listen, if I don't do

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Speaker 2: something and we don't win, I'm gonna get fired. Eric

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Speaker 2: Eric Reed's the safety was, yeah, there you go. Massive trade.

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Speaker 2: They went. They went from the bottom of the draft

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Speaker 2: I I just wonder what teams if I had to,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Baltimore is the team, but I think

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Speaker 2: all those other ones are in play.

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Speaker 4: I'd go Casey one and two, San fran three, Buffalo

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Speaker 4: four Ravens. And because it also has to work for

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Speaker 4: both sides, and if it works for the Cowboys, it

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Speaker 4: means that they have to pick up capital in this draft.

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Speaker 4: You look at what Buffalo has. They don't have a third,

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Speaker 4: they do have two fourths, yeah, and then they have

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Speaker 4: a mid second. So I don't think that they would

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Speaker 4: either both of those fourths or a fourth and a fifth.

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Speaker 4: That would be kind of the question there. For Kansas

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Speaker 4: City first, second, third, fourth, fifth, fifth, seventh, so pretty

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Speaker 4: straight down the line. For the forty nine ers first, second, third,

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Speaker 4: and then three fourths, so that's something to keep an

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Speaker 4: three fourths you said, yeah, three fourths for the forty

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Speaker 4: nine ers, one in the trey Lance trade from the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys their own pick, and then they got a competitory

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Speaker 4: pick as well.

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Speaker 7: I ain't gonna give it back. No, they like, we

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Speaker 7: already intog it. Why will we give it back?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's it would make it a lot easier to stomach,

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Speaker 5: for sure.

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Speaker 3: Right, let's look at some of the simulation here. What's

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Speaker 3: going on around the Cowboys pick at twenty four. This

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Speaker 3: day before the draft go ahead. This is this is

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Speaker 3: interesting because you do have some sliding offensive tackles that

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Speaker 3: we like here. Okay, so Fulaga Oregon State ends up

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Speaker 3: going to the Bengals at eighteen fell a little bit.

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Speaker 3: of you. Minnesota takes Power Johnson at twenty three. So

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Speaker 2: I am. I know in that situation, Minnesota makes that pick.

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Speaker 2: this could be New England's pick. I think that might

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Chargers also have to be a thought. I think

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Speaker 4: I'm with you. I don't think Minnesota is picking at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think they're going to package both their

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Speaker 2: I just I just think you have to be again

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Speaker 2: He knows what his team is. He knows he has

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Speaker 2: say it again. Offensive lineman, when did the when was

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Speaker 3: It actually started at nine with the Bears. They told

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Speaker 7: The first five is it wide receiver.

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Speaker 9: Is it?

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Speaker 7: Is it amazing?

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Speaker 3: Okay, You've actually got a pretty good selection here of

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Speaker 3: be my highest rated player. Cooper dejene is there, the

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Speaker 3: cornerback at Iowa. But then the two guys to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: I mean we're assuming offensive line. J. C. Latham is

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Speaker 3: still there from Bamo, which I know you talked to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. Yeah. The thing about it is my

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Speaker 2: you guys. Yeah, I think so, he you know, And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I mean this kind of stimulation, I kind

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Speaker 3: I don't think this is accurate at all. But you

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Speaker 3: never know.

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Speaker 2: That's craziness the draft, the craziness of the draft. But

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Speaker 2: going to you know the fact that it's I'm okay,

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Speaker 2: you know with these I don't know about you guys,

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Speaker 2: and I issue you've accused me of this, and you're

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Speaker 2: absolutely right. I'm hell been on getting a center, I

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Speaker 2: hell been on that. And because I just feel like

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Speaker 2: I know, and Nick, I know this drives your damn nuts.

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Speaker 2: I know in my heart I can move that left

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Speaker 5: It doesn't drive me nuts. I understand it. But it's

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Speaker 2: But I understand I don't think. I don't think it's

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Speaker 3: So in this situation, I think you're right. In terms

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Speaker 3: out of Oklahoma's those would be probably your top five options.

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Speaker 3: That are Aisha Murphy out of Texas, Cooper Degene at Iowa,

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Speaker 2: I talked to a team that kind of has an

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jacksonville went with Robinson at a Penn State

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Speaker 2: But I feel like rich. I feel like, yeah, some

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I was even asked about your guye Degene. I

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Speaker 2: I said, you gotta take Mitchell. Mitchell's the guy got

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Speaker 2: Arnold's gone. That's I know, you're on your board, on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've got that flip. I've got Arnold one

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Speaker 3: Nate Wiggins from Clemson ends up going to Philly at

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Speaker 5: Mitchell to Miami would be nasty. We go ahead, go

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Speaker 5: ask question, Mitchell would nasty?

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Speaker 2: How would you feel about Wiggins at Philadelphia? Would it

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Speaker 3: That's one of those like pentthrows from me. I'm oh,

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Speaker 3: that's fine with well, I'm not as high.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that.

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Speaker 5: I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with Nate Wigans.

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Speaker 6: It sounds so terrible, but Philly hasn't shown me they

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Speaker 6: the last so I don't care because they got Sidney

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've had to go outside the organization, bringing Darius Slay,

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Speaker 7: Bearry tired, yeah, safety, Yeah, they've been.

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Speaker 3: Any of the guys that they've drafted and tried to develop.

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Speaker 3: You're one hundred percent right, that.

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Speaker 2: Is not like it kind of like giants and the

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Speaker 3: You talk about players, we could be totally wrong about Wiggins.

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Speaker 3: Is that guy? For me, I got a tow Wiggins.

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Speaker 2: They're scared of that one seventy three guys. Yeah, speed

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Speaker 5: That he can mirror.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's that's the I think that's his

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Speaker 2: because in this simulation right here, Barton, okay and lath

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Speaker 7: Oh many, Murphy?

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Speaker 3: And you guys know my affinity for Barton, but I've

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Speaker 3: The last guy I put in was Guidon Oklahoma because

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Speaker 2: Tackle.

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Speaker 3: Ah, that's tough with Latham and Barton. I think that's

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Speaker 4: I don't think Latham would necessarily be like a home

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Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't spent a ton of time talking

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Speaker 3: But you talk about, you know, adding both these guys.

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Speaker 7: The tackle pans as well. Yeah, but that but the

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Speaker 3: So I like that view. So I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: I think when you think about initially all three teams

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Speaker 2: could play left tackle, and I agree right tackle, but man,

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Speaker 2: the guard aspect to him. I went back and looked

440
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Speaker 2: at my stack from that what I was because I

441
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Speaker 2: was curious about the players that were left out of

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Speaker 2: that group. I have Murphy as the highest rated player.

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Speaker 3: I do too. I've got Murphy's the ninth best player

444
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Speaker 3: on my board. I don't know where you guys.

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Speaker 2: But Murphy.

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Speaker 3: But the problem for me is, and this is again,

447
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Speaker 3: I got him at fourteen.

448
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Speaker 5: Where do I have? I got him a seventh?

449
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Speaker 3: So if we're not window dress on the board, we're

450
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Speaker 3: taking best player. Yeah, But I just don't think they

451
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Speaker 3: would be doing that. I don't think they'd have the

452
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Speaker 3: converse station with Murphy. And here, considering you took Mazie lasts.

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Speaker 2: Brought something up on one of these shows about what's

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Speaker 2: the one thing that the surprise and yeah, are they

455
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Speaker 2: going to take a three technique at twenty four? I

456
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Speaker 2: don't think they will. But to me, if they did it,

457
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Speaker 2: I can't do I can't kill him on it.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the guy to do with. He's the best

459
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Speaker 3: one in the class. Yeah, special rare player.

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Speaker 2: But I just told you I'm dying for a sinner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, well, then yeah, let me throw a

462
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Speaker 4: scenario on the table. If Byer Murphy is the best

463
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Speaker 4: player on the board, they take that three tech. Talk

464
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Speaker 4: to me, then there's there's a potential trade opportunity with

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Speaker 4: a three tech that you might have on the roster

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Speaker 4: for a later round pick.

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Speaker 5: And I wonder if that's even a thought.

468
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Speaker 4: And I know this organization is not high on on

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Speaker 4: trading current assets and they haven't been for a while,

470
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Speaker 4: but I think that's that's just kind of a draft scenario.

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Speaker 4: You have to think about me personally, I think, ohso

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Speaker 4: Digisy was a phenomenal three tech in this league, and

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Speaker 4: I think he would be just fine being there for

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Speaker 4: the next five, six, seven years. I think he has

475
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Speaker 4: that potential. I think he has Pro Bowl potential. Sure,

476
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Speaker 4: but you know, are you can you pass up a

477
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Speaker 4: talent like that when it's staring at you. He's at

478
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Speaker 4: twenty four, got you going backwards.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it'd be tough to sell any of

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Speaker 3: us on Byron Murphy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's fair, but you Yeah, we just

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Speaker 4: lost half our listeners.

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants to hear us talk.

484
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Speaker 3: Here's the thing again, that's why we're talking. You talk

485
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Speaker 3: about if you draft, you're stacking it for a reason. Brian,

486
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Speaker 3: I'm absolutely absolutely right about that. I will all say.

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Speaker 2: I will also say this though, I've got that Powers

488
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Speaker 2: Johnson right behind him, you know, I mean, I mean

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Speaker 2: a couple of spots if you just this way, the

490
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Speaker 2: stack fell for me. I man, it was funny because

491
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Speaker 2: I asked that question because I wanted to see if

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Speaker 2: I was the only guy, no and Gal that had

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Speaker 2: Byron Murphy that high on on my stack.

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Speaker 3: No, I've got I've got Murphy. He's a top ten

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Speaker 3: player in the draft.

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Speaker 7: Serious business, he is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and he gives you he stopped not

498
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Speaker 3: right on the way to.

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Speaker 7: The quarter Listen. I'm just I am a fifteen so

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Speaker 7: just let me make it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I've got in the highest at nine.

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Speaker 7: But I just the idea of them trading away.

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Speaker 3: From two of those linemen that we really like a lot,

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Speaker 3: with Latham and Barton.

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Speaker 6: I just think you can't take like in that position,

506
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 6: you can't take away from right now, like you don't

507
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 6: have nothing at DT.

508
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, you ain't got nothing.

509
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Speaker 5: Just a thought, just a thought.

510
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Speaker 3: Let me just throw one. I would hate it so

511
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Speaker 3: with with three stud players that we like a lot.

512
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Speaker 3: And I know we got to get to twitter on

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Speaker 3: the Twitter some question real quick.

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Speaker 2: So if Byron Murphy goes like at nine or ten,

515
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Speaker 2: are we going to be a happy group?

516
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Speaker 5: Yeah, because that means that because.

517
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Speaker 2: It takes them out of our equation.

518
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Speaker 5: I think that's just one more tackle on the board.

519
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Speaker 3: Because this is a problem for us right now.

520
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 7: Stressed, that's a problem.

521
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Speaker 3: This is a stressful conversation. Washington gets on the phone

522
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Speaker 3: here in this simulation, they say, all right, you guys

523
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Speaker 3: want to back out of the first round. Here, we'll

524
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Speaker 3: give you pick thirty six, and we'll also give you

525
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Speaker 3: pick sixty seven in the third.

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Speaker 5: That's it, just sixty seven.

527
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Speaker 3: They're thrown in a seventh pick two twenty two. But

528
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Speaker 3: they're giving you there two and they're three, so now

529
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Speaker 3: you're adding sixty seven.

530
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Speaker 5: I feel like you can get a better deal out

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Speaker 5: of Kansas City there.

532
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Speaker 3: Kansas City doesn't offer anything in that offer. Anything Kansas

533
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Speaker 3: City doesn't now Houston does. Houston offers forty two in

534
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Speaker 3: the second round, eighty six in the third, and then

535
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Speaker 3: you can get an extra sixth round pick with pick one.

536
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Speaker 5: Eight two is tough, tough to stomp.

537
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Speaker 3: See, That's why I didn't. And the only the only

538
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Speaker 3: trade offer to me that I like is Washington here.

539
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Speaker 2: This is where okay, at forty two to Houston ms

540
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Speaker 2: the the forty two to Houston that gets me my

541
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Speaker 2: b YU tackle I believe.

542
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Speaker 5: Yeah, potentially, but you'd be sweating it. You'd be sweating.

543
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 3: Do you think Jordan Morgan can fall to forty two.

544
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Speaker 5: I don't think so.

545
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Speaker 3: You don't think so either.

546
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Speaker 4: But if if Tennessee does not grab Joe Alt there

547
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Speaker 4: in the first round, and they are going to be

548
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Speaker 4: tackle hunting potentially there at thirty eight, you're also looking

549
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Speaker 4: at New England potentially tackle hunting there at thirty four.

550
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: I get on the phone to tell Elliott, Well, if

551
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: you need to do something.

552
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Speaker 3: Okay, what about Zach Fraser, West Virginia Center at forty two.

553
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Speaker 5: You're Washington or not Washington.

554
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 4: You're looking at green Bay potentially.

555
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: Green Bay right behind you on green Bay. Green Bay

556
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Speaker 2: is curious what you're going to be doing right now.

557
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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, my phone's blowing up about

558
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Speaker 2: green Bay.

559
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Speaker 3: Are the green Bay yeacause they know the Cowboys right

560
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: in front of them probably going to take their guy. Yeah,

561
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Speaker 3: I think they could be a fight for Barton right there.

562
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Speaker 4: Really quick before we before we go to break couicksac.

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Speaker 4: This was mentioned yesterday in the press or. It was

564
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Speaker 4: a question. I forget who was from, and I forget

565
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Speaker 4: how it was phrase, so forgive me here, but it was.

566
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Speaker 4: It was along the lines of if if there is

567
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Speaker 4: a same graded player on your board in TIERR versus tackle,

568
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Speaker 4: how do you kind of juggle those two positions? Draft

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Speaker 4: at twenty four. This is what Mike McCarthy had to say.

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Speaker 4: He said, Hey, I think it's very important, but I

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Speaker 4: think you just don't go too far. And I'm talking

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Speaker 4: about our division games. I think the defensive tackle play

573
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Speaker 4: in our division is.

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Speaker 5: As strong as ever.

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Speaker 8: See.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said I remember the answer so and so

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Speaker 3: Latham and Barton, I think definitely they're in the conversation.

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Speaker 3: They're over a guide from Oklahoma that answers the question. Okay,

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Speaker 3: like double dipping on the trade scenarios here. I think

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Speaker 3: this would happens. Yeah, we're we're getting that double dip cone, Like,

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Speaker 3: do you do you see any scenarios because you gave

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Speaker 3: not there, which we don't expect, maybe you do get

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Speaker 3: a run on the tackles. Maybe Barton gets higher in

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Speaker 3: Jackson power shots, and maybe there's a conversation where he's

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Speaker 3: not in the consideration there at twenty four. Do you

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Speaker 3: double dip possibly move back twice in the first round.

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Speaker 3: Is that something that is even a topic of consideration

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Speaker 3: because Walker Davies ass can I interest you in trading

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Speaker 3: back and into the top five of the second round

658
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Speaker 3: because if you look at the last four years, that's

659
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: kind of become a sweet spot of where some real

660
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: stud players have been selected. Last year Joey Porter Junior,

661
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: Samuel Porter, Samuel Porter get Steve Avilla, the TCU guard.

662
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: Year before that you had Bryce Hall Petrie, the safety

663
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: from Baylor. I mean this goes back where you get

664
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: you sleep on it top of the board day two.

665
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: Now you're gonna get some guys and maybe he still

666
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 3: had some first round grades that slipped.

667
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 5: I'm with it. I'm with it. I'll go far back

668
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 5: as thirty five.

669
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 4: That's maybe thirty you could tip me to thirty seven,

670
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 4: but I'm okay with I'm okay with going back to

671
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 4: the top five for second round because that probably means

672
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: you're picking up quite a bit of capital.

673
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, how many extra picks do you think you

674
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: can get?

675
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: Four?

676
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: If you move back twice, three to four. Think we're

677
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: at in the third we're adding an extra second.

678
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends on where you're going to know, that's

679
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: always the key, you know, of course you get you

680
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: got to map it out, but also those teams you

681
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: want to target teams that have extra picks, like you know,

682
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: like the we try to trade up to the Chargers,

683
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: They've got two, uh, fourth round picks, you know, so

684
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: you know, we were trying to our two third round picks.

685
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: We were trying to kind of find spots that, you know,

686
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 2: team it's a little bit easier team with multiple picks

687
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: to trade too, because they're more willing to part with

688
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: one of those picks.

689
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 10: Yeah.

690
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not saying I don't want to have

691
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 6: I know we're just doing hypotheticals, but my brain can't

692
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 6: go to.

693
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: That fone for trade backs.

694
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 7: We're in like a fairytale land, like yeah, if you

695
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 7: can get one good one.

696
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 6: But no, I think you bring up a really good

697
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 6: point that that's kind of become a sweet spot, and

698
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 6: that's a trend that we're kind of starting to see

699
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 6: that a lot of teams are are starting to sleep

700
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 6: on it and be able to do some things coming

701
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 6: out Day two. So I expect I don't expect fireworks.

702
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 7: I expect some sparklers.

703
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's possible. I mean, we had Chris

704
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 3: who gave us a good diapathetical if Buffalo wants to

705
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: come up for a receiver, you end up getting an

706
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 3: extra four or a eight. Three does a team Mike

707
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: Carolina or New England, Brian? Then I come up?

708
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: Buffalo does not? Do we determine that Buffalo doesn't have

709
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: a three? Right?

710
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 5: Correct?

711
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: Buffalo does not have Buffalo.

712
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: Does not because I was trying to get one of

713
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: those threes, one of those late threes.

714
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: In fact, Buffalo, Yeah, Buffalo doesn't.

715
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: Detroit's the team behind you that doesn't have they'd have

716
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: to give you next year's stuff. They got nothing. The Ravens.

717
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: The Ravens, we talked about them. We probably they're gonna

718
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: probably sit. San Francisco is similar to what the Ravens

719
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: would have. I think you pick up an extra three there.

720
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 2: That's really that. But Kansas City's the one where you

721
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: can potentially get the three in the four out of them. Okay,

722
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: so you want to go back again? How far back

723
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: do you want to go?

724
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're looking at New England, what would

725
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: that be forty two?

726
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: That's actually thirty thirty four, that's thirty four thirty four.

727
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so New England's there at thirty four. Now New

728
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: England's got that pick one oh three, which is the

729
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: third pick of the fourth round that I know is

730
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: gold when you're talking about the start of day three,

731
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: if you want to try and get that one as well,

732
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: So that'd be an interesting conversation.

733
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 4: You could also look at the Cardinals. They're at thirty

734
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 4: five three third round picks. They got sixty six, seventy one, ninety,

735
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: and then they have one oh four at the top

736
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 4: of day three.

737
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: So those aholl Houston's picks.

738
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: The Houston pick is ninety, that's the seventy one is

739
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: from Tennessee. I'm trying to that would that would be

740
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 4: the Hopkins trade.

741
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: I would assume, Yeah, Houston's got a lot of amo, man,

742
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 3: because they've got pick eighty six they got from Philly.

743
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's real jealousy I feel for what's going on, and.

744
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Houston's doing a good job this officer.

745
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 7: No, I expect the Cardinals to be active.

746
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned that yesterday.

747
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 6: I really just think they're going to be active. And

748
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 6: some of the things they do, whether it's at pick

749
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 6: what four or I'm twenty seven, they pick after us

750
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 6: and we didn't we haven't.

751
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: Really member and then they're picking at thirty five. I

752
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: mean maybe maybe that's a move back. You pick up

753
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: twenty seven.

754
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 6: You have a twenty seven and a thirty five, Like,

755
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 6: I don't again, I'm still learning all that those are.

756
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 7: Those are pretty close together.

757
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 6: You don't know if a team is like one and

758
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 6: to keep those, I think they're going to be active

759
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 6: in round one.

760
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 5: I'm with you, Yeah, first year, Gm'm curious to see

761
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 5: what he does there.

762
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's go to Adam Desuza, who asks us,

763
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: in honor of Kyle Yeomen's and the marathon worthy pick,

764
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: here's a player for us that would be marathon worthy

765
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: if the Cowboys ended up selecting them at twenty four?

766
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 5: Do you have a guy I'm not running a Maratha.

767
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: That you'd run a marathon if they ended up taking them.

768
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, I started to really if that pick happens, yeah,

769
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: that'd be because that guy to me, like I first

770
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: watched him play, I'm thinking body type, that's a guard.

771
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 3: But you see the nimble feet. He's taller than I

772
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: thought that he would be when he measured in the combine.

773
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: He is athletic enough to play tackle. I think he

774
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: could play maybe all five positions. I mean, I think

775
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: the intelligence is there to even play him at center

776
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: in a pinch. But I think he'd be an excellent guard.

777
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: But I think he absolutely could play tackle with the

778
00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: NFL level.

779
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, Instead running a marathon, I'm going

780
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: to be a big backed individual real quick, and I'm

781
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: gonna flip it really quick. If Troy was picked at

782
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: twenty four, I'll do that little waffle challenge where you

783
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 4: have to be in the let's go the twenty four

784
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 4: hour challenge. Twenty four hours so ever you want me to.

785
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: The hour is.

786
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 3: Taken off your sentence. Okay, but I like this Brian,

787
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 3: Do you have one or do you want to co

788
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: sign with Faltanutanu is the guy?

789
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 5: Absolutely you joined me at waffle house.

790
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 2: Okay, I might have to. I might have to. I'll

791
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: tell you what though. It's uh, that's the great thing

792
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: in the beauty of the draft. You just don't know

793
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: if there's going to be somebody you feel like that.

794
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: You do all this work and line these guys all up,

795
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: and then maybe there's somebody that does you know, somebody says, well, no,

796
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: we're just going to go with this guy. We like

797
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: this guy a little bit better. But I would be

798
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: super excited if he if he.

799
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 3: I mean the leverage he plays, it's so natural for him,

800
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 3: and his pass sets the quickness out of his stance

801
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 3: when Beemer's rolling the b roll here in that National championship.

802
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're just saying it doesn't matter who the player is.

803
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

804
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and any player in the first round at twenty

805
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: four that you'd be like, oh my gosh, this would

806
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: be It's like the Ceede Lampick at seventeen. Nobody thought

807
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 3: CD He's gonna be there. He ends up being there.

808
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: Kyle runs a.

809
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: Player you got the who's a player you really really want?

810
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 6: I mean, listen, I uh, I would not I think

811
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 6: how bad. I think Bauers in this offense could be

812
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 6: very helpful. But I I was gonna say, just as

813
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 6: a random player, if Jeene Bell comes here from FSU,

814
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 6: I'm gonna find.

815
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 7: Okay, I don't think that. And again, we haven't talked.

816
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 6: About we hate touched tight end.

817
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 7: Why. I don't know. We ain't got no proven tight

818
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 7: ends besides eighty seven.

819
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, friggy.

820
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were it's so funny yesterday they were

821
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 2: talking about Stevens you know, Steven Jones. Yeah, was John Stevens.

822
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 7: Fairness, they had plans for him, if you.

823
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 3: Will, absolutely made the team before the injury.

824
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 2: You're right about Bell by the way, jaheem Bell.

825
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 3: Is an alien. Yeah, I know, I know, I mean,

826
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: and he even put him anywhere you on. He is

827
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: a ton of.

828
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 6: Fun and when you talk about you know, we've mentioned

829
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 6: some of the other gentlemen like that these teams are

830
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 6: teams are kind of looking for that Debo esque type

831
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 6: vibe guy, and I feel like he can do some

832
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 6: of that stuff, even though he's considered a tight end.

833
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 6: But as far as Stevens goes, if you watch the preseason,

834
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 6: even some of the play designs were play designs.

835
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 7: We never see no more. After he wasn't on the

836
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 7: field no more.

837
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 6: They were trying different things with him where they had

838
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 6: him slipping and had him.

839
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 7: In motion and stuff.

840
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 6: Because he does have some receiver as qualities, and I

841
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 6: know a lot of us were worried about is he

842
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 6: going to be able to stand.

843
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 7: In line and block.

844
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 6: I think in the preseason he even showed that he

845
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 6: at least had the effort to want to do that.

846
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 6: And he's not super physically imposing, but he was a

847
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 6: willing blocker when we got to see him. So I

848
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 6: do understand that maybe they do have some upside or

849
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 6: things that they think from Stevens and those guys.

850
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 7: But I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't like later,

851
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 7: maybe later maybe day.

852
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think maybe possibly, But I think it's one

853
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: of those things like Bobby's talked about, you've got to

854
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 3: trust the evaluation of Bobby belt. He won't come with

855
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 3: trust you make Scooney.

856
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 6: Right, are you ever going to be able to run

857
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 6: the ball in twelve personnel?

858
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 3: Well, if you can't run the ball in twelve personnel

859
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: with Scoony, then you mis evaluated him, because what were

860
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 3: we talking about this time last year? Scoon maker best

861
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: maybe best blocking tight end in the drive.

862
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: I'm the guilty one.

863
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 3: If Scooney can't figure it out, then you know what

864
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 3: we we just missed on the pick there.

865
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go to court.

866
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 6: But I think even the blocking is great, but I

867
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 6: think the lack of receiving quality A man. Listen, there's

868
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 6: a team that watches the same film you do and

869
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 6: they see, yeah, that that's not happening. So he is right,

870
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 6: like Bobby said, he's gonna have to take a step

871
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 6: up or whatever. But it just gives me anxiety because

872
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 6: you got you got a lot right.

873
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: You got knocked off, you got knocked off the ball

874
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: tight ends you need Fergie to improve, there'd be more consistent.

875
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: You need schoon Maker around in the form of the

876
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: player you thought he would be. But I do think

877
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: with Stevens and Ferguson, you've got, yeah, you've got two

878
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 3: guys there that I think can give you a receiving threat.

879
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 3: But that's interesting. I mean, like Jared Wiley at a TCU,

880
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: that's not a guy that can block, but you talk

881
00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: about Travis Kelcey esque perceiving threat, wildly special in that regard.

882
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to get a receiving type

883
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: of tight end, I.

884
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Speaker 4: Just feel completely different about the tight end position. I

885
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 4: feel like Jake Ferguson really took a step forward for

886
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 4: last year to yeah, yeah, but take the receiving ability away.

887
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 4: I'm talking about run blocker. I think he took a

888
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 4: really big step last year. I think that kind of

889
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 4: helped be able to bring Schoonmaker in once he came

890
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 4: off that plane or Fascia. Granted, Schoonmaker has to be

891
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 4: able to take a big second year, second year leap

892
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: that needs to happen. But you got two receiving tight

893
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 4: ends behind those guys, and Peyton Hendershot and John Stevens Junior.

894
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 4: Sure you can bring in an undrafted guy to kind

895
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 4: of elevate the competition in that room, But if they're

896
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 4: spending a draft pick on a tight end, I'm I

897
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 4: don't know. I feel some type of way about that.

898
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: I feel the same way about quarterback or safety. I

899
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 4: think those are the three positions you don't need to

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00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: touch with that.

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00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm okay with not touching it tight end. I

902
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Speaker 3: think we could. I could argue for safety, we can

903
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: talk about that.

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Speaker 7: On the other side of no, no, no, I was going

905
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 7: to say, I mean in theory.

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Speaker 9: Yes.

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Speaker 6: My point is that in this season, you really, this

908
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Speaker 6: is a this seat.

909
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 7: There's a lot weighing on the season.

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Speaker 6: And to me, neither one of those gentlemen that you

911
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 6: just mentioned, like Peyton Hendershot has been here. Well this

912
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Speaker 6: is his third year, and I hend dog is my dog,

913
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like, I respect the player,

914
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Speaker 6: but at the same time, we didn't what did we

915
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Speaker 6: see him from him last year?

916
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Speaker 7: I know he was injured.

917
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Speaker 6: I know he was dealing with injuries, but what what

918
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Speaker 6: he's what is?

919
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Speaker 7: It wasn't It's not enough. It's to me, it's not enough.

920
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Speaker 6: To ride on and be like yeah, for sure, and

921
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Speaker 6: then I just I don't know, I feel differently about it.

922
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Speaker 7: I do think John Stevens has.

923
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Speaker 3: More of a potential upside.

924
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Speaker 6: Oh absolutely, I think he has the opportunity to it

925
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Speaker 6: because and I'm not saying that Peyton's not capable.

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Speaker 7: We just ain't seen yet.

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Speaker 2: I think I was more disappointed in hinder than Schoonmaker

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Speaker 2: than I was Hindershot.

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Speaker 7: That's fair.

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Speaker 2: I think I kind of feel like I know what

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Speaker 2: Hindershot is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I felt like that Schoonmaker was going to come in

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Speaker 2: here and be a guy that when you put him

935
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Speaker 2: at the point of attack in line, he was going

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Speaker 2: to be able to work with either Tyron Smith or

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Speaker 2: work with Terrence Steele, and they were gonna be able

938
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Speaker 2: to control the edge and they were gonna be able

939
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Speaker 2: to run the ball. They just couldn't do it with

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Speaker 2: that man.

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Speaker 3: I do remember Dalton Schultz. You know, the first year

942
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Speaker 3: didn't go well. Dalton Schultz, is he going to be

943
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Speaker 3: making the roster into a Pro Bowl tight end for you.

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Speaker 3: Trust you know, I'm I'm over Eileen with you.

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Speaker 2: Nick.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you have the luxury to spend a

947
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Speaker 3: pick on a tight end with all of your needs.

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Speaker 3: But sixteen maybe okay, let's go ahead and step aside.

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Speaker 3: When we come back. Who's a player that you would

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Speaker 3: get to players that you could pound the table on.

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Speaker 3: But you brought you brought tight end up. Okay, safety

1015
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: an edge. Safety was a position Brian, you brought up

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00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 3: in our group chat a couple of days ago. Edge,

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Speaker 3: I usual you brought up today. Out of those two positions,

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00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: where would you be comfortable taking one? Nick? I know

1019
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: for you, safety is not one you want, So you

1020
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 3: can you can start off with edge and who is

1021
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Speaker 3: a player that you'd be hyd.

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Speaker 4: So if you're you're probably looking there on day three

1023
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 4: at edge. Man, if you pick up that fourth round

1024
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 4: pick and you're able to get Jaylex Hunt, oh man,

1025
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 4: I would be I would be a j I'd be

1026
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 4: all in on that. I'd have a party in here

1027
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 4: on Saturday. But if you're looking more realistic with the

1028
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 4: picks that they do have right now, let's see, let's

1029
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 4: let's take a look at this.

1030
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 5: These day three guys.

1031
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 4: I think I think there's a potential that you look

1032
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 4: at Gosh, Braden McGregor out of Michigan. That's that's kind

1033
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: of a guy. Brendan Jackson out of Washington State. Let's

1034
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 4: go Xavier Thomas out of Clemson just because he's he's

1035
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 4: more of an athletic. He's more of an athletic, twitch,

1036
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 4: twitchy guy. Like he doesn't necessarily have the size, but

1037
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 4: he has that bend that can kind of get under

1038
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 4: under some offensive tackles. He was originally a top recruit

1039
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 4: in the class of eighteen, I believe, which was my

1040
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 4: high school class.

1041
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 5: So it's six years ago.

1042
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 4: He's been he's been in college, so he's he's been

1043
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 4: around the game a while.

1044
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 5: He brings a lot of experience. I think it's it's

1045
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 5: a product, you know what you're getting.

1046
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 4: Like, I don't think he's going to be an eventual starter,

1047
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 4: but I think that is a good replacement to bring

1048
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 4: in if you're looking for a guy to kind of

1049
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 4: fill that Dante Fowler junior role in the sense that, hey,

1050
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 4: we just need to be able to rotate a body

1051
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 4: in on a passing down, to be able to go

1052
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: be athletic on third down and be able to attack

1053
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 4: the quarterback.

1054
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Speaker 3: It's funny that you run up Thomas. When I watched it,

1055
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I wish I could take his bend

1056
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: and put it on Brailan Trice out of Washington, and

1057
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: then you'd have a first round edge right there. That

1058
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: would be amazing. Okay, Brian, if you want to take

1059
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: edge safety both, whichever you prefer, I'm.

1060
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Speaker 2: Going to tell you about an edge named Gabriel Murphy

1061
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: from u C. L a Is. So I'm going to

1062
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: take this guy. This guy's a transfer from North Texas,

1063
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: by the way, might be a little undersized to play,

1064
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: but his strength his hand use is impressive. The coaches

1065
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: move this guy around up and down the line. They

1066
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: find spots for him to rush. He made a play

1067
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: as a three technique in the USC game with a

1068
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: really nice quick move that beat the guard tackle and

1069
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: made a tackle behind the line of scrimmage, the first

1070
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: step that Ayisha likes a lot. He's got explosiveness, he's

1071
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: disruptive in the running game, and he's got flexibility to

1072
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: bend off the edge. He could stay connected to the action.

1073
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: You don't see him kind of get knocked out of

1074
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: the play or pushed wide. Everybody talks about law to you.

1075
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: Gabriel Murphy on the other side made his share of

1076
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Speaker 2: place too. So if you're looking for one of those

1077
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Speaker 2: Day three edge rushers at six two two forty seven,

1078
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Speaker 2: Gabriel Murphy is your guy. I mean he can, he

1079
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: can rush the passer, and I know we could play

1080
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: run defense. A little bit of completeness to his game.

1081
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 3: Absolutely. It was great at the East West Srian bold

1082
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: Nick and I know him pretty well. Bishop Lynch playing

1083
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 3: there with his twin brother. You mentioned going to North

1084
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: Texas Cob Baby and then makes that transfer Aisha safety edge.

1085
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 3: Which side you want to go with? I know we

1086
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: were talking about a player that I'm happy to discuss

1087
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 3: unless you want to take him.

1088
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna let you talk about it because I'm gonna

1089
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 6: talk about a couple other guys. So for me, when

1090
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 6: you look at that Day three situation, I look at Cedric.

1091
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 7: Johnson edge out of Old Miss big time.

1092
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 6: As they move him like you said, like you mentioned

1093
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 6: with Murphy, they move him all across the line. He

1094
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 6: can do it in multiple stances as well, so it

1095
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 6: stands out. Sometimes you see him with his hand on

1096
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 6: the dirt, sometimes he's just staying and he has good

1097
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 6: he has good strength and balance. I like the backs

1098
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 6: of a side pursuit from him. He rushes with speed

1099
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 6: to power. He has a couple of swipe and rip moves.

1100
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 6: He's very tall in his stance, so sometimes sometimes I

1101
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 6: do think he can lose his footing and play too tall.

1102
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 6: But I do think that if he just plays under control,

1103
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 6: a little bit more control, he has crazy closing speed

1104
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 6: and just develops a little bit more discipline with his speed.

1105
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 6: Because he's such a his body is so sixty to

1106
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 6: fifties crazy. So I think that he still is trying

1107
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 6: to figure out some of the balanced parts of things.

1108
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 6: But I think he can be a good edge in

1109
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 6: this league with a little bit more discipline. I also

1110
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 6: look at what you talk about safety. Hey, hey, man,

1111
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 6: I watched Malik.

1112
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: Mustafa right in front of him.

1113
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 7: What a fune watch you enjoy him?

1114
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: I know what safety you like, and Ustafa is certainly

1115
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 3: of your eyes, like, Yeah, him and Jayden Hicks, they've

1116
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: got that about him. Jaden Hicks to me, is like

1117
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: a little Troy Paula Mali.

1118
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he has some flex I think playing some

1119
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 6: free safety as well. But this is a strong safety. Yeah,

1120
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 6: he's crazy as a blitzer. He has good been to

1121
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 6: an evate lieman when he's blitzing as well. He's constantly

1122
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 6: reading the QB's eyes and he can get I do

1123
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 6: think he can get.

1124
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 7: A little girls downhill, would you.

1125
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1126
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 7: But he can run.

1127
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 6: He covers a lot of ground. He's very scrappy. He

1128
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 6: makes plays in the run game. He's active, and he

1129
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 6: has read and reactability that you are looking for from

1130
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 6: a safety. Malik Mustafa is I would love to have

1131
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 6: him on it on your team.

1132
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. The last line in my notes was this guy

1133
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: has the right temperament for the position and who will

1134
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: make someone look smart who drafts him.

1135
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a player.

1136
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: This guy is a player.

1137
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: He is. I'll go with the safeties here. I do

1138
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: think late rounds and maybe even undrafted free agent like

1139
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: Ryan Watts out of Texas and the Cowboys got a

1140
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 3: good look at traits Wise. We talked about Dominie Campton

1141
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 3: at a Washington guy I did like a lot like

1142
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: traits Wise. Late in the draft. I'd consider safety as

1143
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: early as fifty six for me, because there's a player

1144
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 3: that I love and I've talked about him early in

1145
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 3: the draft, and there's two. I consider Jayden Hicks there

1146
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 3: at a Washington State. I think he is absolutely fantastic, quick, aware,

1147
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: explosive downhill. I think he can be a special teams guy.

1148
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: I think he's like a Harrison Smith Troy Polamal, whose

1149
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 3: style to his game that Mike Zimmer would absolutely unlock

1150
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: magic with. But to me, and this is a dude

1151
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: that I'd stand on the table before every day, I've

1152
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: got a first round grade on him. I might be

1153
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 3: the only draft person in the world with the first

1154
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: round rade on him. I don't care he's being slept on,

1155
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 3: like Antoine Winfield Junior was a couple of years ago,

1156
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 3: but it's Shavon Bullard out of Georgia, saw action as

1157
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: a freshman at Uga, named defensive MVP of the National

1158
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: title game against TCU and the semifinal against Ohio State.

1159
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: He'll thump you. He's super physical. He's a guy that'll

1160
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: throw his body around, can come down. He'll cover the

1161
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: slot sideline to sideline. He has a play versus Tennessee.

1162
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 3: He gets beat up the seam, but he reads the receiver,

1163
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 3: puts his hands up to break up the pass. He's

1164
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: one of those guys where it's just he's got a feel.

1165
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: He's got innate instincts and feel for the game. Short

1166
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 3: area of quickness. He's got recovery speed. Maybe that lacks

1167
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: a little bit when it comes to just straight line

1168
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 3: speed covering, you know, the deep half of the field.

1169
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: But I love Javon Bullard. I know he's undersized and

1170
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 3: some guys are gonna knock him for no, you.

1171
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: Know who this is. This is Jalen Peatree. This is Jalen.

1172
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 7: Peetrie for You're gonna say.

1173
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this this is him. This is this

1174
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: kid is flying around all over if you want to,

1175
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: if you want to, you we talked about Petrie earlier,

1176
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: so I think you brought his name up. Kid from

1177
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: Baylor in twenty twenty two that draft. This kid's got

1178
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: the same kind of I love them traits. Yeah.

1179
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 3: I stand on the table for Bullard there at fifty six.

1180
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 3: If you're wiped out, there's not a lot of players

1181
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 3: that you love, I'd go for it there. Okay, I

1182
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: know we got to show following up after us. This

1183
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: has been a blast really quick.

1184
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 4: No, yeah, yeah, we have a new highest paid wide

1185
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 4: receiver in the NFL.

1186
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 3: Did we just get something happened?

1187
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 5: I'm and Ross Saint.

1188
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 4: Brown four years one and twenty million, seventy seven guaranteed. Uh,

1189
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 4: the one twenty is the most, seventy seven million guaranteed

1190
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 4: is the most, the annual value is the most. So

1191
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 4: the her market has been reset once again.

1192
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: Turned to a year. By the way, I'm sorry, quick.

1193
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: Math, I need you to hurry up. We've got another

1194
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 3: show that's coming in.

1195
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: What is that?

1196
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 5: What does that turn to?

1197
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 2: What a year? What is that? A year?

1198
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 5: That would be?

1199
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 4: That would be thirty a year. So that's it's at

1200
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 4: more than one twenty. So I assume it's going to

1201
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 4: be right right above Tyreek Hill's number. So he is

1202
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 4: the high I was told.

1203
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 2: That the tyreek Kill number really in reality is.

1204
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 5: Like twenty seven is twenty five?

1205
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1206
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 5: Oh five?

1207
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 2: Interesting instead of thirty it's twenty five.

1208
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: Well, if you heard the pressure yesterday, certainly uh ceedee lamb.

1209
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: Paying attention to that, and there'll be conversations. We'll have

1210
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Speaker 3: you all three days. This is going to be a blast.

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Speaker 3: Will be on the year at six o'clock tomorrow. Dallascowboys

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Speaker 3: of the NFL Draft. We look forward to hanging out

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Speaker 3: with you all three days. Until tomorrow. I want to

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