1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Hey, bro, Welcome back. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: To Bachelor Happy Hour and I'm Serena and we are 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: here with another recap. We have episode two. 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Of Grant season of The Bachelor of the Bachelor. Yes, 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: this is the Bachelor. This is a Bachelor podcast where 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: we recap every. 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 3: Episode, every episode and later on this week, we are 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 3: excited to talk to Zoe. She is our guest this 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: week and we're gonna be asking her all about the 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 3: beginning of what seems to be a lot of drama 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: to come in the house. 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, she seems like she seems like the one that's 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: causing some commotion in the house. 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 3: I kind of think of the word fought to not 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: say shit. 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well I was gonna say shits her, but I'm like, 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: it's just such a crude saying. But she seems to 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: be the one that like is definitely ruffling some. 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: Feathers, so you stop. 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna stick with that. Yeah, she's roughly sub feathers. 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: So we usually don't get those people on the podcast 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: right away, so I'm actually looking forward to talking to her. 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: It is one of those things like watching it back, 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, all right, like, don't you don't 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: you girls, like watch the show before you go on it, 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: because Zoe and then the girl the new Jersey Jetser 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: Ellie Joe, Like, I feel like, you know, this isn't 28 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: gonna work off for either of you if you keep 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: this up, and you're already starting so like this is 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: just a mistake. 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just two archetypes that we've seen again and 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: again and again, and we'll get into it when we 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: get to the group date. 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's start off the episode and shall we. 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: We shall So Episode two starts with the first group 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: date of the season, and on this group date, it 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: is a basketball date. We have Natalie, Beverly, Zoeza, and 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: Chloe on the purple team, and then Juliana, Ali, Joe, Vicky, Alicia, 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: and Sara Fina on the yellow team. So it's kind 40 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: of a like a standard sized group date. I feel 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: like usually at the beginning of these group dates have 42 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: been massive because we've had such huge casts, So it's 43 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: kind of nice, Like I actually feel I know we 44 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: said this, I think last week, but I really prefer 45 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: a twenty five person cast. I could. I could look 46 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: at every girl and probably I think I could. I'm 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: ninety percent sure. I could get every girl's name, right, 48 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: like if you show. 49 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: Me photos, Yeah, I think you could too. 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 3: Maybe ninety five percent. 51 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: Sure, I don't think I could really No, not right now. 52 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: I will say out of like the dates that the 53 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: show repetitively does, like people are really sick, like you 54 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: hear like another helicopter. This the basketball game, any sporting 55 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: event is always I find just like I like almost 56 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: tune out. I find it so born. 57 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 3: I know. I also think though this date was inevitable 58 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: because there's so much stuff of like Grant and basketball, 59 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: basketball and Grant, that they were going to incorporate basketball 60 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: on a date in some way. And I feel like 61 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 3: it was like, let's just get this one out of 62 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: the way. 63 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: Well, they either it's either basketball or football. And sometimes 64 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: like I think the Golden Man, we saw. 65 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: Let's get a new athlete in here, let's get a 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 3: rugby player. 67 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: Well, Joey was tennis. 68 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: Joey was tennis, and I liked that because it was different. Yeah, 69 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: and that's not to say I don't like Grant because 70 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: he plays basketball. It's just we see, you're right, it's 71 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: always a basketball date or it's a football date. 72 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they have to, they have. 73 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: And Honestly, most of the girls don't are like I 74 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: don't know how to play this. 75 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 76 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: Let's like most of the girls are like I don't 77 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: play the sport, and now I'm being forced to and 78 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: someone's probably gonna get hurt. And I'm out immediately. I'm 79 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: five two, Like, there's no chance for me on a 80 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: basketball date. Like some of these girls are tall. Are tall? 81 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not one of those. 82 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be one of those girls. No, I'm out 83 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: here representing the short gals who thrive close to the ground, 84 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: not jumping up. 85 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: Well, Zoe's the one that actually thrived during this during 86 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: the basketball game. But then she so we see she 87 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: pull Was it after the basketball game or before? 88 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: It was like during warm up slash training? 89 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so we have kids come out, Yeah, and 90 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: Grant wants to see how the women interact with the children. 91 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: With the children, You're gonna make fun of everything I 92 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: say today. No, I actually it's fine, it's fine. I 93 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: appreciate it. It's a form of flattery. 94 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: I So the children come out and they're like, you 95 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: guys are all gonna dunk or shoot or whatever the 96 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: activity is. And Zoe goes second and She's like, I'm 97 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: actually just gonna to steal you. And not only I'm 98 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: going to steal you, I'm gonna take you like ten 99 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: floors up away from everyone. I'm gonna get you in 100 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: an elevator. I couldn't believe she got him in an elevator. 101 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: I was like, it's one thing to take him around 102 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: the corner, like this is minimum. 103 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: I mean, this isn't the. 104 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: Exact exact same thing that Devin did with Jen. They're 105 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: on a group date. It's this first group date in 106 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: the fucking season, and he takes her somewhere else to 107 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: go get ice cream Zoe, he takes Grant somewhere else 108 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: to go chat her. Whole thing is shooters are gonna shoot, 109 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: and I shot my shot and that's why I'm here. 110 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: I've always kind of siged it with that mentality, but 111 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: I guess like I'm just so ed so like kind 112 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: of sick of seeing it where I'm like, there are 113 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: other people, maybe you know, pay attention to that. It's 114 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: really early on in the season. It just honestly it's 115 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: kind of unnecessary. 116 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I wasn't expecting that move. She 117 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: is still here, so obviously worked for her in some capacity, 118 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: but you have to know that doing something like that, 119 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: you're putting a target on your back. You're making enemies 120 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: with the girls in the house, which is going to 121 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: be comfortable with that. 122 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also it's going to lead to you 123 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: being involved in drama and that person never ends up 124 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: with the lead. Yeah, except except actually except for Gen season. 125 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know that didn't work out. 126 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know. 127 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: I don't know either, but we will chat with her 128 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: more about it. The MVP of the date was Chloe. 129 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: I love her. 130 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: I think you know her right or you don't know 131 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: her a friend of Oh no, no, no, you're. 132 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: Thinking of someone, but Chloe gets the MVP award. I 133 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: liked it when Grant was in a huddle with the girls, 134 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: was like, guys, I'm not looking for Michael Jordan here, Like, 135 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: I'm just looking for you to have bud. Yeah, and 136 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, thank god, because you're on the wrong 137 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: show if you're looking for a basketball player wife. 138 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: I think there was probably a hand There's always going 139 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: to be a handful of like really like serious competitive 140 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: people and then usually the rest of them are like yeah, no, no, shit, 141 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: We're not Michael Jordan, nor do we want to be. 142 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: You know what I liked on joey's 's is they 143 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: they did like a pickleball date where they made them 144 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: wear those crazy outfits outfits. 145 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you see a little more of their personality. 146 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that you saw more of their personality. It also 147 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: just made it not feel so bone dry of like 148 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: it's just a tennis match, which just a pickleball match. 149 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: I feel like we need to start zesting up these 150 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: games games. 151 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. 152 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: Night portion the girls are beefing with Zoe. 153 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really And then we see like the the 154 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: feud of Ali Joe and Zoe, Ellie Jo and Zodi, 155 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: which will. 156 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: Ali she got way madd than I thought she was 157 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: going to. 158 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. And also I also like, I understand that the 159 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: girls are upset about it. It's like if I was 160 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: on the group date and one person literally takes the 161 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: lead that were all kind of just meeting and goes 162 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: somewhere else, I would kind of be like, all right, 163 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: you know what, like this is annoying, but to get 164 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: like over the top mad about it is just not 165 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: a good look for you. 166 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: So I think my opinion is if someone steals extra 167 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: time during the day. The night portion of a group 168 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: date is a fresh slate. Just because I got time 169 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: with them during the day, or I got extra time, 170 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 3: or I got the MVP, or I got you know, 171 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: an extra five minutes in the hot tab does not 172 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: mean that that person needs to forego any time for 173 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: the sake of the group on the night portion the date. 174 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: It is a new date. It is completely separate. So 175 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: I don't think Zoe did anything wrong by taking time 176 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 3: with him before other girls got time with him. All 177 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: the end of the day, She's still gonna she still 178 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: deserves time. It's again, it's a it's a new portion 179 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: of the date. She's not gonna be like, did everyone 180 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: go okay? Now I can go like I would never 181 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: expect anyone to do that. I think where she crosses 182 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: the line or takes a risk is when. 183 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: She the basketball game. 184 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: No, I don't even know what you're talking about. I 185 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: was gonna say, Ali Joe takes him. They're having a 186 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: conversation and then Zoe interrupts, no, no, no, sorry, Ali 187 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: Joe interrupts Zoe, and then Zoe interrupts Ali Joe. It's like, 188 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: you have your time if you get cut short. You're done, bowo, 189 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: get your ass back to the couch, get a drink, chill, 190 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: it's over. If you want to take that step to 191 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: be like I'm gonna button again, it's like do it, 192 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: but like you have to be prepared that you're gonna 193 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: push some buttons. But she actually seems prepared to push 194 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: buttons Zoe. Yeah, she doesn't seem like she's gonna back down. 195 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: She seems to be someone that accepts the consequences of 196 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: what comes with her doing something that's not gonna please 197 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 3: the rest of the girls, because she doesn't seem shocked 198 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: or rattled or confused or like she's not victimizing herself 199 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: when they're upset with her. Yeah, she's like, you could 200 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: do it too, and I wouldn't be if you want 201 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 3: to go for it and you want to go head 202 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: to head like I'm down, which I kind of respect 203 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: because I feel like we see a lot of people 204 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: do this and then they're like, well, I'm just trying 205 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: to get my time with him, and you're like okay, 206 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 3: but you know you're doing something shady, Like let's all 207 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: just be straight with what's happening here, And she at 208 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: least is like owning it. 209 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, which I respect. Yeah, I agree. I mean she's there, 210 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: she's there to get Grant and that's the only reason 211 00:10:54,080 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: she's there. And I think, I don't know if I 212 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: foresee in the future or the rest of this season 213 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: Zoe being like this villain. I I kind of. 214 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: Feel like this may be like the end of it 215 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: for her. 216 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, not the end of her season. 217 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: She's not going to play it this way anymore. 218 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I just she seems pretty, she seems like smart, 219 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: where I think she's going to pick up on the 220 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: fact that, like, if I do keep doing this, I'm 221 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: just gonna be involved with Kate. 222 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: Kelly, Allie Joe, Ellie Joe. 223 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: Well, because she looks like Kelly from say by the Belt, 224 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: I know, And I think it's going to fade. That's 225 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: my prediction. 226 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: I don't think you're necessarily wrong there. Okay, So the 227 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: group date, Rose goes to Natalie, who who has experience 228 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: working with kids. She kind of showed that off during 229 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 3: the day portion, and she had like a meaningful but 230 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 3: also like not too heavy of a conversation with Grant, 231 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: just about like kids and everything like that. 232 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: She's very sweet, sweet, very likable and I really liked 233 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: that Grant gave her the rose. 234 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: I like, yeah, I think that was a good choice. 235 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: Because it was kind of like, listen, I gave a 236 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: rose to the person that I saw some really great 237 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: qualities in. 238 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was just herself and she was intentional with 239 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: her time that she got. Okay, Next we have the 240 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: one on one date with Alex who no surprise there 241 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: because she got the first impression rose, which meant she 242 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 3: also got the first one on one date of the season. 243 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they shut down a mall. Every child's it's my dream, 244 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: especially if you're like a kid from the nineties, like. 245 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 3: Malls were like the coolest place ever. 246 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was like nothing better than a mall. 247 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 3: When I was little, I was like if my parents 248 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: were billionaires, I would be like from my birthday, all 249 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: I want is for you to shut down a mall 250 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: and keep all the stores open so I can like 251 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: go try on the clothes, play with the makeup, and 252 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: like sleep in the furniture store. Like that was my dream. 253 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: There was a movie when I was a kid growing 254 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: up that I was obsessed with called blank Check. And 255 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: he's like a twelve year old, not even he's probably 256 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: like ten and he gets a blank check and he 257 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: just and he puts like a million dollars in it, 258 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: and he just goes and like to the mall. It's 259 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: like like. 260 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 3: This is the best one million dollars. 261 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: I forget what it was, but it was it was 262 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: he got like he got hit by a car. And 263 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: the guy's like basically like this like half assed gangster 264 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: type of guy. And he's like, here you go, kid, 265 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: and gives him a blank check and doesn't like realize 266 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: what he did. And then like the kid's like, I'm 267 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: gonna spend all your money and he goes wild. 268 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: That's crazy. That doesn't surprise me that that was a 269 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: movie that you loved. 270 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: But what do we think? What do we think about Alec? 271 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: I don't think we got to break down the entire date, 272 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: but like, do we think they're into each other? Do 273 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: we think this date? I feel like she said she 274 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: felt awkward when he was singing singing to her, and 275 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: I kind of felt that, yeah, which is fair. I 276 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: think it's just I think it's nice and like a 277 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: sweet thing to do, but it's it's hard for it 278 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: not to be a little awkward. The first time's. 279 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: Knew like they just started hanging out. Yeah, I think 280 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: I really like her a lot. I don't know if 281 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: I feel the romance between them necessarily. 282 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah either do I I. 283 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: Think that she's someone that may take a little more 284 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: time to be vulnerable and open up. I know that 285 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: she told him about her family upbringing, how she was 286 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: raised by her grandparents and like in a less traditional 287 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: yeah household. 288 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: But. 289 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: I don't feel like she like is super comfortable talking 290 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: about herself and her life and things that she's been through. 291 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: I feel like we saw more of like a fun, playful, 292 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: goofy side of her this date. And I think that 293 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: as she gets to know him more, the romance might 294 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: come as she relaxes and opens up. But I also 295 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: don't know if it will or not. It might not 296 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: even be that there might just not really be a 297 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: romance connection. 298 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: I think she's going to have a tough time on 299 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: this show. Really why because I think it's hard for 300 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: her to be vulnerable. Yeah, And I think we see 301 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: so many and usually usually those people end up going 302 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: pretty far and when they finally have a breakthrough, they 303 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: get sent home. 304 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: I know, but by the time they get there, it's 305 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: like too late. But she or they do it is 306 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: like a last effort, Like they feel like they're going 307 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: to go home, so they like decide to open up 308 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: to try to you know, fight for the relationship, but 309 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: it's too late. 310 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,479 Speaker 1: She to me, is alex is really like prime candidate 311 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: for or Paradise. 312 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: There's so many girls in this season that I'm like, Okay, 313 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: it's probably not you, but like you're gonna be so 314 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: good for Paradise. Yeah, and she's one of them. 315 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, but either way, the date ends and. 316 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: It ends well, Yes, it ends well. They definitely get 317 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: along grate. There's you know, maybe not the most romantic connection, 318 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: but there's still a connection there. I think she was 319 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: also like the best person for the first one on 320 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: one with Grant, because I do think he is a 321 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: little more chill, can be a little more. 322 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I still think she's gonna be there till 323 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: the end. 324 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she's gonna be there for a while. But 325 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: I just think that she's a great pick for the 326 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: first date because she's so fun and she can kind 327 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: of make Grant feel comfortable and just enjoy himself as 328 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: the bachelor. It doesn't always have to be so serious. Right, 329 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: We're still at the beginning of the show. Yeah, already, 330 00:16:52,280 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 3: next group date. What did we think we have Letia, Carolina, Rose, Ella, Bailey, Dina, 331 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: and Rebecca on this date. 332 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: So I will say I thought this one started out. 333 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: I was like, this group is more fun. They're way 334 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: more chill. They just seem like they're here to have 335 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: a good time. 336 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah you said that right away. You're like, this group 337 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: feels less intense, less serious, less competitive. 338 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: But the night portion went like opposite. 339 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 3: But I think we take it back. 340 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 341 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: I think we were swayed by the environment that they 342 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: were put in, you know, yeah. 343 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I felt like the the date itself. Those 344 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: I think those dates are fun, but the biggest, the 345 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: biggest thing in the state was Carolina, like dancing on 346 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: Grant and then them making out, which there's another thing 347 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: we always see on the show, like one person makes 348 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: out with the lead pretty early in front of the 349 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: group and the group. 350 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: I don't think the groups used to get upset. 351 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: I think they've always gotten upset. Really yeah, well, this 352 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 3: one's at least on the batch they do. 353 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: This group seems to be really upset. I don't think 354 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: they seem to be really upset at Carolina. I think 355 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: they're just a little upset at like this. I think 356 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: they are realizing this situation is a lot more difficult 357 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: than I thought it was gonna be. 358 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that with dates like this, you know, 359 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: the basketball date, you can kind of screw around and 360 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 3: you're still gonna be fine, you know what I mean. 361 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: But these days you're like all the eyes are on 362 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 3: you for like your little moment. You're getting dressed up, 363 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 3: You're putting yourself out of your comfort zone. You're trying 364 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 3: really hard to like make him notice you. You're so 365 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: vulnerable on these dates, like the performance style dates so embarrassing. 366 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: Yea feel I watch it. I watch it and just 367 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: feel I wear their embarrassment. I feel I feel for them. 368 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel for them too. And it's like you 369 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: leave those being like I feel kind of embarrassed. I 370 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: feel kind of silly. Maybe I had a good time, 371 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: but like you want that validation that like it wasn't 372 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 3: for nothing. So I think it just hurts that much 373 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: more when someone else gets that's the rose or the 374 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 3: special attention at the end of the day, whereas the 375 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 3: basketball date, I'd be like, yeah, like no shit, I'm 376 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: not the MVP, Like I literally sucked today and I'm 377 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 3: okay with it, you know, like this is my strength 378 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 3: and like I could only put in so much effort here. 379 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 380 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 3: So I just think that's where the sensitivity comes from. 381 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 3: I also think it's the first time that someone's like 382 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 3: making it with him in your face. 383 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're the first time, you're. 384 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: My advice for that is like, literally don't look like 385 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 3: look away, Like whenever I watch the girls, just like 386 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 3: staring at Carolina's straddling Grant, I'm like, look away, like 387 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 3: ignorance is bliss and you don't have to watch this, 388 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: like look at your feet, turn around anything, like you'll 389 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: feel a lot better, Like you're just torturing yourself. 390 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then I think all the like the mood 391 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: at the night portion Grants, like the mood's off Carol 392 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: O Lena makes it makes kind of makes herself the victim. 393 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 394 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: I was kind of surprised by her reaction. I don't 395 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: know if I've seen that really before. 396 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because I don't think any of the women 397 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: were like you're a fucking you suck. Yeah, Like I 398 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: think they were just like this situation sucks. But it 399 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: didn't seem to me, at least from what we saw 400 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: that any of the women were like blaming her for what. 401 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 3: She did not at all. That's not how I took 402 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: it either. It seems that's how she took it, obviously, but. 403 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how the women were. They were definitely blaming. 404 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: The first group was definitely blaming Zoe, like we don't 405 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: like what you did, yes, And then I think this 406 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: one was more like, we just don't really love the 407 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: situation that we're all in, including you, but it's not 408 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: your fault. 409 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: That's how I took it as well. And it seemed 410 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 3: to be she wasn't really in tune with the rest 411 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: of the group because they were talking about how the 412 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: vibes are down and the vibes are off, and she 413 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: was like, do you guys think the vibes are off? 414 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: And it's like, oh, Carolina, you're living in your own 415 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 3: little world right now, Like you're on a high from 416 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 3: your dance sash with Grant and you're not tuning in 417 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: to the fast that Like, it can be really exciting 418 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: and a happy moment for you, and it can also 419 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 3: be disappointing and uncomfortable for the other girls, and like 420 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 3: both those things can exist at the same time. Them 421 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 3: being disappointed. She was like almost felt like it took 422 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: away from her, like she really flipped it. So she 423 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 3: felt victimized by their disappointment and happiness, despite the fact, 424 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 3: I really don't think it was meant to be like 425 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 3: you're the problem. I think it's just the reality of 426 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: the situation they're in and they're just learning that for 427 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: the first time in a hard way for sure. 428 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, well said, I think we see he has a 429 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: conversation with Letia that starts off a little like a 430 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: little wonky, but I think it went I think it 431 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: went pretty well. I think he really likes her. I 432 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: think she is somebody who is expressing pretty early on 433 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: that she's there to like find her husband, and I 434 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: think that's pretty evident. 435 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 3: What did you think of what Grant said to her 436 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 3: on night one? Saying what did he say? 437 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: He said, you're somebody that gets what you want. 438 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: I think he said you don't get told you, you 439 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: don't get told no, you must you probably don't get 440 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 3: told no a lot, you're so beautiful, or something like that. 441 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Grant meant that to be a major compliment. Like, 442 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it came across like one. I think 443 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: in his head. He was saying it in a flirtatious tone, 444 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: in a way of like you never get told no 445 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: because you're hot. 446 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's like guys must be all over you, 447 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: like there's no way you like anyone's turning you down 448 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: or rejecting you. Like he definitely meant it as like 449 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: a pickup line, a pickup. 450 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: Line, and I think he meant yeah. I think he 451 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: thought she was going to be flattered, and I think 452 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: it kind of came out like you don't ever get 453 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: told no. 454 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 3: I actually don't know his delivery was not a ten 455 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: out of ten, but I wouldn't say it was a 456 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: fumble either. I think he just said something that was 457 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 3: meant to be passive and light, and it hit a 458 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: sore spot for her obviously, yeah, because she was upset 459 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 3: about it. Kudos to her for like, you know, we're 460 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 3: only on week two. She's spoken to this guy one time. 461 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: This is like her second conversation, and she's immediately like, hey, 462 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: you said something that pissed me off last week, Like 463 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: that's I don't know if I would have the balls 464 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: to do that right out of the gate. 465 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: And I I and grants defense, like I think, like 466 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: if like, if Flatia's at a bar in New York City, 467 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: you know, and she walks up to a guy, I 468 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: would say nine in three quarters out of ten, are 469 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: none of them are like turning projecting her. Yeah, It's 470 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: just it's I just really and I kind of think 471 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: that's what he meant. And I think she may have 472 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 1: taken it as like in total in my life, like, 473 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: there's been some really hard things that have happened to 474 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: me and I've gotten some knows So for you to 475 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: say that I'm just like this pretty face who always 476 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: gets told yes, there's so much more to me than that. 477 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think it was a good opportunity for 478 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: kind of a miscommunication, miscommunication or just yeah, just a miscommunication. 479 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 3: I think it was again, like just something that he 480 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 3: said that was meant to be light that hit a 481 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: sore spot for her. I also think she seems to 482 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: be really eager and ready for marriage and kids in 483 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: this next phase of her life, and she probably is like, 484 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: you know, if everyone told me yes, I would have that, 485 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 3: and I don't, and it's something I want and that's 486 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: something that I struggle with. 487 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: Well, she got the group date row, so she got 488 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: a yes there. 489 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 3: She got a yes there, and I think she was 490 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: the right person to give the group date Rose to 491 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 3: as well, because she was really vulnerable with him. 492 00:24:50,720 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think I think Rose was another one 493 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: who seemed to struggle during the night portion. 494 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Rose is having a hard time, but I. 495 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: Think he kind of like reassures her, like, I'm really 496 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: interested in you and I like you, so chill out. 497 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: I loved Rose in episode one. I feel like she 498 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 3: really shined for me, just both coming out of the 499 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 3: limo and in her conversation with Grant. She definitely seems 500 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: to be spiraling a little. 501 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: Bit, and I think she's very overwhelmed and I and unfortunately, 502 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: I think it's getting the best of her, and I 503 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a little hard for her, at 504 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: least from what we're seeing in episode two, for her 505 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: to like make a comeback here. 506 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: We also see in the promo she's crying, essentially saying 507 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 3: she thinks she's going home. 508 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 509 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: So it might have been, you know, a quick spark 510 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 3: that fizzled out with the two of them, or she's 511 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 3: just really gotten in her head and it's kind of 512 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: her own worst enemy here. 513 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 1: I think she's someone that if she doesn't get a 514 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: one on one date, sooner than later. 515 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 3: She won't be able to handle it. 516 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, who's somebody. 517 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 3: Bailey also is having that problem? 518 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: Oh you know who else was like that? What's she 519 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: was on Zach's season? 520 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: Oh Jess, baby Yess? 521 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? 522 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing with Baby Jess though, is Zach wasn't 523 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: interested in her and that's what it was like literally 524 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 3: the week before Hometowns and she hadn't gotten one on 525 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 3: one day. Whereas I think it's it's a little too 526 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: early to have it be like I don't think he's 527 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 3: into me, but he's reassuring me, but I'm not getting 528 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 3: that one on one yet. Yeah, just waited like all 529 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: season for one. Yeah, I think what the hell is 530 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: going on? Yeah? 531 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: I think Rose needs to wait till till like episode five, 532 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: episode five, But you know it's easier so than that 533 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: when and when you're in these when you're in this situation, 534 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: like I do forget, Like watching it, I'm like, what 535 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: are they freaking out about? It's like episode two, Like 536 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: what you. 537 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 3: Know so much? But I forget how I feel like, yeah, 538 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: days they even there for like a week at this point. 539 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: And not even that, Like like you know, a couple 540 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: of days in this world feels like a lot because 541 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: you all you're you're for the most part, you're really 542 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: just kind of like talking about your past, your feelings, 543 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: what you want. 544 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 3: And all you're talking and thinking about is the show 545 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 3: that you're on and love and if you're gonna get 546 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: it or not. 547 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: Like when you're in the real world, you're like, what 548 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: am I gonna have for lunch, dinner? Like, you know, money, 549 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: am I going to the gym? 550 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: Scrolling on Instagram? 551 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? A million different you got when you're in when 552 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: you're in Bachelor World. Yeah, all that matters is your. 553 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 3: Heart, your heart and your time with Grant. I am 554 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: worried about Rose. I'm actually yeah, I don't know. We're 555 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 3: gonna We'll see how this plays out next week. I 556 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 3: hope that she kinda I don't want to say, like 557 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 3: locks it up, because like she has every right to 558 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 3: be past emotional, but just kind of like waxes into 559 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 3: the process a little bit. If she doesn't, I think 560 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 3: that's totally okay. It's incredibly overwhelming. I feel like I 561 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 3: can lump Bailey into this too. I think they would 562 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 3: both be great in Paradise and sometimes it just takes 563 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 3: a different format and you know a little bit of 564 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: time to prepare to go back into it again and 565 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,239 Speaker 3: have just you know, more set expectations of what you're 566 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 3: getting yourself into. 567 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: I will say yes, and I will say my predictions 568 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: for the season have definitely changed just after episode two. 569 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want to share I. 570 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: Well, I will say that I felt like Alex and 571 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: Zoe were going to be like like his bottom, his 572 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: his top two. Yeah, I don't think that anymore. 573 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: Do you have any other names that you feel will 574 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: replace those two well idle spots. 575 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: I felt strongly about Latia and I still do think 576 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: I think she. I think her, and it seems like 577 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: she didn't really nothing major really stood out on the dates. 578 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: But I would say Juliana, who I was like, is 579 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: giving me bachelorette vibes, still is kind of giving me 580 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: those vibes. But also her conversations, her just little conversations 581 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: with Grant. They seem to really like each other. There 582 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: seems to be like a real connection. Yeah, so I 583 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: put her up there, but she was always both of 584 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: like Latti and Her were always up there. But my 585 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: two front runners were Zoe and Alex, and they are 586 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: no longer my front runners. 587 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: All right, sorry, Zoe and Alex. If you're listening to this, 588 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 3: you're your cut. 589 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: Whatever, It's fine, Like you're still you're still in the top. 590 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: Any thoughts on Bailey's conversation with Grant and she's doing. 591 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: I like Bailey, I know. I actually think Bailey is 592 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: one of the more entertaining people to watch on the show. 593 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 3: She's got a really good personality. Yeah, yeah, she shines 594 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 3: on television. And she was and her being like, no, 595 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: it's okay, been crying all day. I was like, she's 596 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: so real for that. 597 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's actually, yeah, one of my favorite people on 598 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: this season. 599 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: I think she's gonna have a hard time too. 600 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: She's gonna have a hard time. Yeah, Yeah, she's she's 601 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: gonna Yeah. 602 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough. 603 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: She's She's another one that I'm just like, yeah, go 604 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: to paradise. 605 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: And unfortunately for Bailey and Rose, I don't know if 606 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 3: I see either of those two getting the one on 607 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: one next week, which I feel like is kind of 608 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 3: what both of them need, Yeah, to feel reassured that 609 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: you know, they're not just going through this for nothing. 610 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then before we wrap any surprises on people 611 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: not getting roses. 612 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ella, because we literally see her like snuggling with 613 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: Grant and she's reading him this letter that she's written 614 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 3: and it's so sweet and he's like, oh my gosh, 615 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: can I keep this. She's like, yeah, of course. He's 616 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: like laying on her shoulder, just like an abundance of 617 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: physical affection is happening. And then she's like, I really 618 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: can see him and I together at the end of this, 619 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: which I was like, Okay, you know, let's too soon 620 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 3: for that, but like, also I get it. You know, 621 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 3: you just had a great chat, you're feeling good, you're 622 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: on a high, and then bam, she's gone. I was like, Grant, 623 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: you tricked me. I can't imagine how Ella felt. Yeah, 624 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 3: but other than Ella, we lost Rebecca, we lost Vicky. 625 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: Rebecca was the woman that, yes, Rebecca was who he 626 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: pulled right away to ask about, like, I feel bad 627 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: when that person goes. 628 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 3: Me because you're in a position to like almost kind 629 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 3: of like rot on the group. 630 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're and you're also saying like you are giving 631 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: me trustworthy vibes, and like. 632 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's basically saying you, I trust what you have 633 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: to say. And then he sends her home. 634 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's like I would. 635 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: Feel really confused. 636 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel but it's more, Yeah, I feel bad 637 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: because it's like she it, it's like saying you have 638 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: been friend zoned and now you're gone. Yeah, I guess. 639 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: I guess honestly, though, if he knows, like, hey, I 640 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: actually rather him send home somebody like Ella who's really 641 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: into him. Yeah, and he just knows I might like her, 642 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: but she's never gonna be the one I pick. Send 643 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: her home. 644 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, because it's just. 645 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be it's so much even though she was 646 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: really upset, it's so much easier for her to go 647 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: home right now than it will be in three weeks. 648 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: In three weeks, it's gonna be way worse. It's gonna 649 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: be so much harder to get over. 650 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: I agree with you. I think it's if he. 651 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: Get less screen time, which sucks. 652 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 3: If he knew after the conversation, like she's really into 653 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: me and I like her a lot, but like she's 654 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: gonna fall way too, like, way harder for me, and 655 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be able to siprocate Rebecca. Maybe he 656 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 3: did trust her, but he's like I just feel like 657 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: she's more of a friend and that's why he asked 658 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: her about the group, because he was like, I'm not 659 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: try further this connection. I just want to know what's 660 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 3: going on before I chat with some of the other girls. 661 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess it's it's yeah, I guess it 662 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: was the right moment. 663 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: Vicky. We didn't see a ton of her this episode, 664 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 3: and then Alicia. Alicia was like all over episode one. 665 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: She was basically the star of a She narrated like. 666 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 3: Most of the episode. She looked amazing. We saw her 667 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: entire conversation with Grant. They kissed. He was like I 668 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: really like you and I like your personality and I 669 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 3: think you're beautiful, and then got one clip of her 670 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: in this episode until the end. I was like, this 671 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 3: is so confusing. Why are you doing this to me? 672 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: I yeah, yeah, well said I forgot that she went 673 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: home because she shouldn't have went, Like, I don't understand 674 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: how she went home. 675 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 3: Grant's body language is not readable either, because he's like 676 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 3: snuggling up to the girls that he's cutting. 677 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: I believe I forget that he he cut her. Yeah, 678 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: what I don't, I don't. I don't get that. 679 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 3: I don't know either. I mean, I get it, you 680 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: have to cut someone. It's just like the way the 681 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 3: show's unfolding is leading me astride. 682 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: Like after episode one she was she was like, I 683 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: would have bet big money she was in the top sex. 684 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 3: I would have been like, she's at least making a midway, 685 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: at bare minimum, she's making it past episode four or five. Yeah, yeah, 686 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 3: you know. I was like, she's she's gotten so much 687 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 3: screen time. Yeah, but gone, Well, maybe we'll see her 688 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 3: in Paradise. I feel like she would be a good fit. 689 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 3: She would be out of everyone that's gone home so far, 690 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 3: she would be the one that I would say they 691 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 3: would pull for Paradise as like someone that got sent 692 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 3: home early, mainly just because she got so much screen 693 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 3: time in the first episode. 694 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just see a lot of guys. 695 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 3: Being into her. 696 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Okay. Thank you everyone for tuning in. 697 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 2: To episode to recap. That's all we got for you today. 698 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: Make sure you stay tuned because later this week we're 699 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 2: going to be dropping our episode with Zoe. 700 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening, and don't forget to subscribe. Bye.