Speaker 1: Also media, there were some strange looking people at the RNC.
Speaker 1: This is it could happen here at Executive Disorder Hour,
Speaker 1: with the newscast covering what's happening in the White House,
Speaker 1: the crumbling world, and what this means for you. I'm
Speaker 1: Garrison Davis to They am joined by Robert Evans and
Speaker 1: Mia Wong, with a special segment later on by James Stout,
Speaker 1: who is on the ground in Spokane. This episode recovering
Speaker 1: the week of July twenty ninth to August fifth, And
Speaker 1: let's actually start with James reporting from the wildfires in Spokane.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 3: Everyone, it's James. I'm in Washington State this week covering
Speaker 3: the fires here. I will cover more in depth on
Speaker 3: my new show Natural Courses, which you will soon be
Speaker 3: able to download wherever quality podcasts given away for free.
Speaker 3: But I want to catch everyone up on the fires
Speaker 3: here as an a little folk prefer to consume then
Speaker 3: news this way and might otherwise not be aware of
Speaker 3: what's going on. So on the first of August, the
Speaker 3: National Weather Service in each of Washington and in Idaho
Speaker 3: issued a PDS a Particularly Dangerous Situation Notice. Fires were
Speaker 3: already burning across much of the state and across much
Speaker 3: of the Pacific Northwest, including on the land of the
Speaker 3: Colville Tribes and the Spokane Tribe. On Saturday, three fires
Speaker 3: struck near the north part of the city of Spokane.
Speaker 3: The PDS doubtless helped some folks prepare other folks, I'm
Speaker 3: sure will have missed it entirely. Very quickly. People went
Speaker 3: from nothing to level three go now warnings. This was
Speaker 3: somewhat compounded by things like a large travel volleyball tournament
Speaker 3: happening in an area which got a level three go
Speaker 3: now warning. What that means if you're not familiar.
Speaker 4: There are three.
Speaker 3: Levels of warnings when you are evacuated for a fire,
Speaker 3: and their level three is the most severe one, that
Speaker 3: being like you have to leave your home right now.
Speaker 3: Several people have related to me, and I want to
Speaker 3: caveat here that I'm not being critical of the response,
Speaker 3: which has actually been very good. I'm giving information because
Speaker 3: more people are going to find themselves in this situation
Speaker 3: in the future, and I think it's important that people
Speaker 3: understand that the level three warning that buzzed on people's
Speaker 3: phones of the emergency alert came not very long before
Speaker 3: they saw fires and even structures on fire in the neighborhood, right.
Speaker 3: I think people sometimes think that someone will come and
Speaker 3: tell you when it is your time to leave. That's
Speaker 3: not always going to be possible, right, And again, I'm
Speaker 3: not conveying that to say that the response here was poor.
Speaker 3: I'm conveying that to say that people need to understand
Speaker 3: this because we're all going to have to live with
Speaker 3: fire in the West because there has always been fire here.
Speaker 3: The climate is changing and we are pushing our homes
Speaker 3: further and further into the wildland urban interface, and that
Speaker 3: is where this fire began. Right on Saturday. This state
Speaker 3: was a tinderbox, and it was these neighborhoods along the
Speaker 3: worldland urban interface that caught the brendt of these fast
Speaker 3: moving fires that had a peninful source of fuel and
Speaker 3: were pushed along by the wind. Currently, about a third
Speaker 3: of the two hundred thousand people who live here in
Speaker 3: Spokane have been placed under evacuations orders, and the community
Speaker 3: is obviously feeling the way of that, along with the
Speaker 3: hundreds of people who lost their homes and all their
Speaker 3: possessions here. Notable points of the evacuations included buses evacuating
Speaker 3: people from old folks homes and a VA hospital was
Speaker 3: also evacuated by buses, And of course many people left
Speaker 3: their homes in their cars with their possessions, their pets,
Speaker 3: their families, etc. And of course that resulted in very
Speaker 3: slow moving traffic. Nonetheless, from what I heard this morning,
Speaker 3: seems everyone evacuated in time at least to save themselves.
Speaker 3: I know many people will be dealing with tragedies, right
Speaker 3: They've lost their homes, people will have lost pets, people
Speaker 3: will have lost things that are incredibly important to them.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: I spoke to people out on the Covial Tribes reservation
Speaker 3: who were saying they had lost homes that their father, mother,
Speaker 3: grandparents built with their hands, right, these intergenerational homes that
Speaker 3: had gone. That is absolutely tragic. I want to give
Speaker 3: an update that I got this morning from a public
Speaker 3: information officer of the IMT that's managing this fire, so
Speaker 3: we'll drop that in right now.
Speaker 6: My name's Tom Stokesbury. I'm the lead public information officer
Speaker 6: for California Interagency Incident Management Team seven. So right now,
Speaker 6: there's three fires that make up the Spokane area fires.
Speaker 6: That's going to be the Fairview Fire, the Old Trails Fire,
Speaker 6: and the Autumn Lane fire. Currently all totaled in the
Speaker 6: acres is ten thy, five hundred and forty. But over
Speaker 6: the last twenty four hours, our firefighters have made tremendous
Speaker 6: progress in putting control lines in around the entire perimeter
Speaker 6: of all three fires. Now that doesn't mean the fires
Speaker 6: contained or controlled. We just have those management and control lines.
Speaker 6: There still have an active firefights. They'll have active flames
Speaker 6: in the interior. To the point on the Old Trails
Speaker 6: and Fairview fire, we actually had a spot outside the
Speaker 6: line on each one of those that went to about
Speaker 6: an acre acre and a half, but we had the
Speaker 6: resources in the right place and they were able to
Speaker 6: pick those up at about one acre each. So that
Speaker 6: just kind of proved that they're still active heat hot
Speaker 6: spots in this interior. And that's why we have engines
Speaker 6: and all three of these fires still protecting the structures
Speaker 6: that have not been impacted yet because any kind of
Speaker 6: wind can throw embers and right now, the receptive fuels
Speaker 6: in this area, and by fuels, I mean the vegetation
Speaker 6: that is so dry, right your grass, your brush, it's
Speaker 6: very receptive to those embers. Proof being is the two
Speaker 6: spot fires. But we have thirteen hundred firefighters here. We're
Speaker 6: expected to be over two thousand by the end of
Speaker 6: the week.
Speaker 3: I also asked about the number of structures impacted and
Speaker 3: when people here can expect to return home. And here's
Speaker 3: what Tom said.
Speaker 6: Right now, we're well over seven hundred structures that have
Speaker 6: been impacted. We do have damage assessment personnel ordered and
Speaker 6: en route. It's my understanding they'll be showing up today
Speaker 6: and we'll have them on the ground tomorrow. So we're
Speaker 6: going to start to get a more accurate number of
Speaker 6: what those impacted structures look like versus a total loss
Speaker 6: to just an impacted structure. And those structures include not
Speaker 6: only people's personal homes, but garages, outbuildings, sheds. But we're
Speaker 6: going to get a better accurate number on those over
Speaker 6: these next few days, trying to get these communities back
Speaker 6: to where we can get them repopulated. But in addition
Speaker 6: to that, there's a tremendous amount of hasmat in there.
Speaker 6: We're talking burned solar panels, we're talking LPG, possible gas leaks,
Speaker 6: the building materials from homes that have been burnt, the
Speaker 6: stuff that's inside those homes. There is a lot of hasmat.
Speaker 6: So we have to ensure the public is going to
Speaker 6: be safe before we repopulate and let them back in there,
Speaker 6: because our ultimate goal is life first then property, and
Speaker 6: that life is not just firefighters, it's the public safety.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I was at the fire based camp also ran
Speaker 3: into local community members and businesses who are helping out.
Speaker 3: People were constantly dropping off food and snacks and supplies.
Speaker 3: His One local business owner who explained his efforts.
Speaker 7: To me, So, my name is Tim Codzy. I'm with JK. Boots.
Speaker 7: I'm one of the owners with my brother, and.
Speaker 3: I asked him what him and his company we're doing
Speaker 3: to support the community.
Speaker 7: On Wednesday, August fifth, we're doing some of the home
Speaker 7: Front Day. We're going to donate one hundred percent of
Speaker 7: all the profits of that day to the Spokane residents
Speaker 7: who lost their homes. So they could do that. They
Speaker 7: can participate just on our website and just do something,
Speaker 7: just get something, and that'll go to those people. The
Speaker 7: other things you can do is you can come here
Speaker 7: and you can offer to drop off you know again, drinks, wipes, essentials.
Speaker 7: You can look on Facebook, they've posted those things. The
Speaker 7: other big thing is just there's other funds that are
Speaker 7: set up that have like meal trains, and because there's
Speaker 7: about sixty thousand people that are still not a not
Speaker 7: able to go back to their homes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's happening in Spokane is tragic and it is
Speaker 3: going to impact this community for years to come. It
Speaker 3: will take a very long time for rebuilding to happen,
Speaker 3: and probably even longer for people to hear the emotionally,
Speaker 3: I want to make sure that we do not overlook
Speaker 3: the several large ongoing fires that are impacting the Indigenous
Speaker 3: communities around the city though, because as resources shift to
Speaker 3: the fires then the city, these communities will see fewer resources,
Speaker 3: and indeed they already have seen fewer resources. I spent
Speaker 3: the last couple of days visiting the Colville Tribes Reservations
Speaker 3: Spokane Tribe Reservations. Today. I spoke to folks who would
Speaker 3: cut their own fire lines around their homes and communities
Speaker 3: who were prepared to fight the fire. And Indigenous people
Speaker 3: here have lived with fire for thousands of years, right,
Speaker 3: they have a deep understanding of fire, and people there
Speaker 3: had decided to stay and to defend their communities, even
Speaker 3: in areas that were impacted by Level three evacuations. Not
Speaker 3: everybody right. Some people who were more vulnerable, Some people
Speaker 3: who were not able to pass this bit in that
Speaker 3: response or didn't feel safe doing so, left, and the
Speaker 3: folks stayed. As resources continue to be diverted to fight
Speaker 3: these fires and spoken, and as news coverage will continue
Speaker 3: to centerund the city, folks who lost their homes out
Speaker 3: in these tribal communities will also need help, and it
Speaker 3: might be harder for them to find it. Some of
Speaker 3: these people are still in their homes. Just today, I
Speaker 3: spoke to several people who determined to do the hardest
Speaker 3: to save their homes and hoping the little wind doesn't
Speaker 3: pick up. They're cutting their own fire lines in Several
Speaker 3: forestry and mining workers as well as tribal community members
Speaker 3: who are on contract fire crews, have been using their
Speaker 3: machinery and their skills to clear space and create better
Speaker 3: firebreaks around their communities. It's a really tragic and difficult situation,
Speaker 3: especially when combined with this reporting that I will link
Speaker 3: to of Red Cross volunteers making racist from marks shelters
Speaker 3: that made Indigenous folks feel unwelcome there. I don't think
Speaker 3: I need to repeat those, but I will link to
Speaker 3: the story if you'd like to read it. It is also,
Speaker 3: of course amazing to see the strengths and resilience of
Speaker 3: communities coming together to take care of one another in
Speaker 3: these tragic situations. I particularly want to highlight the work
Speaker 3: of the River Warriors Society. I spent today with them
Speaker 3: moving supplies from one reservation to another. I will include
Speaker 3: a link to the Spokane Tribal Network, which people can
Speaker 3: use if they'd like to donate to support that mutual
Speaker 3: laid work. They're really doing excellent work. They're getting people
Speaker 3: what they need, They're filling those gaps. They're moving more
Speaker 3: quickly than big organizations of big government things can even
Speaker 3: tribal governments where it will require paperwork, whereas what they're
Speaker 3: doing is literally standing at gas stations using cards to
Speaker 3: pay for people's gas so they can get where they
Speaker 3: need to go right, getting people hotel rooms, getting people food,
Speaker 3: getting people the things they need to get through this
Speaker 3: and to begin healing. Today I help load hundreds of
Speaker 3: pounds of pet food and animal food into a trailer,
Speaker 3: for instance, so that people who need to feed their
Speaker 3: animals don't have to drive for hours away from their homes,
Speaker 3: right when the risk of fire is high and they
Speaker 3: want to stay home and do what they can to
Speaker 3: protect their homes. They're really doing excellent work, and I
Speaker 3: would encourage you to support them if you have the resources.
Speaker 3: I will have more of this when I get home.
Speaker 3: Currently really tired, smell like a campfire, and I am
Speaker 3: in the bathroom of a motel because it is the
Speaker 3: only quiet place I could find. If you'd like to donate,
Speaker 3: I would suggest the Spoken Tribal Network and I'll include
Speaker 3: their web address. It's Spoken Trible network dot org, not
Speaker 3: hard to find. I will also include the Unovia Foundation
Speaker 3: web page for donation to folks in Spokane and their
Speaker 3: ongoing recovery. And yeah, I'll have more on this soon.
Speaker 3: Hey everyone, it's James again. Just a little pick up here.
Speaker 3: They wanted to add someone has been arrested for arson
Speaker 3: in connection with the Autumn Trails fire. I want to
Speaker 3: remind everyone that an arrest is not a conviction. There
Speaker 3: were three fires that impacted Spokane, and that fire needs
Speaker 3: more than ignition right to spread in the way that
Speaker 3: they did here. It needs fuel crucially in this example,
Speaker 3: and that fuel was already there right. That's why I
Speaker 3: wanted to highlight the PDS that was issued on the
Speaker 3: first of August. Now, I also want to address these
Speaker 3: conspiracy theories. Right the most common conspiracy theory seems to
Speaker 3: be that this was an attempt by big data center
Speaker 3: companies to clear a block of land in order to
Speaker 3: have a place where they could put a data center.
Speaker 3: I can tell you that I've spent the last two
Speaker 3: days driving hundreds of miles around eastern Washington. There is
Speaker 3: plenty of land where you could put a data center
Speaker 3: here without burning down a neighborhood. Data centers aren't that
Speaker 3: they are destroying so many beautiful places and so many
Speaker 3: wonderful things. It doesn't mean that they are comic book
Speaker 3: evil all the time. I think we need to inject
Speaker 3: a little rational thought here. We don't have any evidence
Speaker 3: that it was a data center. We did, then people
Speaker 3: would be presenting it. But the data center hypothesis seems
Speaker 3: to rest on people want to build the data center
Speaker 3: near here, therefore burn down neighborhoods. Or the relatively common
Speaker 3: and frequently recurrent fifteen minute cities conspiracy theory, which suggests
Speaker 3: that rather than fifteen minute cities being an aspirational goal
Speaker 3: for urban planning and a framework around which you consider
Speaker 3: permitting building and potentially growing our cities. They are some
Speaker 3: kind of George Sorrows mandated dictat that is now being
Speaker 3: enforced by burning people's neighborhoods down in suburban areas. Again,
Speaker 3: no evidence to support that other than this wasn't a
Speaker 3: city that the fifteen minute city people consider to be
Speaker 3: a fifteen minute city. I want to address these things
Speaker 3: because they come up every single time there's a fire,
Speaker 3: and I think we need and we're going to talk
Speaker 3: about this more in my show Natural Causes, which you
Speaker 3: can hear from seventeenth of August wherever Good Podcast giving
Speaker 3: away for free. There are going to be fires in
Speaker 3: this ecosystem forever. There have been fires since there have
Speaker 3: been plants to burn. Lightning started fires before people ever did.
Speaker 3: But the people who have been here for tens of
Speaker 3: thousands of years have lived along side fire for all
Speaker 3: that time. We can't entirely suppress fire and remove it
Speaker 3: from our landscape. This landscape needs fire and evolved co
Speaker 3: evolved with fire. But there are ways that we can
Speaker 3: prevent fire from doing what happen and today. But they
Speaker 3: require a lot of effort, They require a lot of resources,
Speaker 3: and they require some rethinking of how we live alongside fire.
Speaker 3: That's something I'd like to approach later and in more detail,
Speaker 3: but I guess I just wanted to address these conspiracy
Speaker 3: theories because I see more and more of them. Also
Speaker 3: want to point out that there is no meaningful restitution
Speaker 3: that be astracted from one person if that person did
Speaker 3: start the fire. Healing doesn't come from punishing someone, comes
Speaker 3: from helping someone. And in this situation, there are hundreds
Speaker 3: of families who lost their homes, both on the Coval
Speaker 3: Tribes reservation, the Spoken Tribe Reservation and here in Spokane
Speaker 3: the city, and I think the focus should be on
Speaker 3: how to help those people and how to help them heal,
Speaker 3: rather than blaming one person who may have started this fire,
Speaker 3: who may not write. We haven't got a conviction yet,
Speaker 3: but either way, I want people to remember that this
Speaker 3: is about a lot more than one person.
Speaker 1: Thank you, James. In other news, on Monday, a federal
Speaker 1: judge issued a preliminary injunction blocking New York's ban on
Speaker 1: ice agents wearing masks. The New York state is suing
Speaker 1: to shut down Calshie for operating as an unregulated sports
Speaker 1: betting platform that offers illegal underage gambling The state is
Speaker 1: also seeking thirty six billion dollars in penalties, and this
Speaker 1: lawsuit comes after a district court ruled against Calshi in
Speaker 1: their bid to protect itself from the enforcement of New
Speaker 1: York's gambling laws. Prior to this lawsuit from the state,
Speaker 1: Calshei attempted to bribe Governor Kathy Hokel by offering ten
Speaker 1: billion in tax revenue over five years. The governor responded
Speaker 1: on the everything app quote Calshi can promise one hundred
Speaker 1: percent of its revenue. You can't buy yourself an exemption
Speaker 1: from New York law. If an i legal bookie offers
Speaker 1: this state a share of their profits, will still shut
Speaker 1: them down unquote. In response to a lawsuit from Trump
Speaker 1: A accusing Capital One of unlawfully closing his bank accounts
Speaker 1: for political reasons, Capitol One is revealed in court filings
Speaker 1: that the Trump organization bank accounts were closed in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one for quote unquote anti money laundering reasons following
Speaker 1: quote months of analysis and careful review by the bank's
Speaker 1: money laundering team. If he wants, Prior to the closure
Speaker 1: of Trump's accounts, Capital One had to pay a three
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety million dollar penalty to the Financial Crimes
Speaker 1: Enforcement Network for not enforcing an effective anti money laundering program.
Speaker 1: Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche's Senate confirmation hearing is coming up,
Speaker 1: but last week President Trump said he would keep Blanche
Speaker 1: on as acting Attorney General if Blanche doesn't get confirmed,
Speaker 1: and just try to nominate him again after the mid terms.
Speaker 1: The US Attorney has dropped charges against three people who
Speaker 1: were accused of damaging the Lincoln Memorial reflecting Pool. The
Speaker 1: motion to dismiss the felony charge against the former Olympic
Speaker 1: athlete claims that it wasn't until after he was indicted
Speaker 1: that the Department of Interior gave evidence over to prosecutors
Speaker 1: that quote, damaged to the Lincoln Memorial reflecting Pool in
Speaker 1: July twenty twenty six was the result of flawed installation
Speaker 1: by the contractor and the rush to complete the project
Speaker 1: prior to events associated with America two fifty celebration in
Speaker 1: the weeks surrounding Independence Day twenty twenty six. The motion
Speaker 1: also states, quote is difficult to attribute the widespread damage
Speaker 1: to the reflecting pool to vandalism unquote. Of course, Trump
Speaker 1: was not too happy about this, turning to truth social
Speaker 1: to say, I disagree one hundred percent with the Chenin Piro,
Speaker 1: the US attorney for the District of Columbia, on the
Speaker 1: reflecting pool. I don't know what she was thinking. To me,
Speaker 1: it was a pure case of vandalism in all caps.
Speaker 1: That includes the grass which had a big eighty six
Speaker 1: forty seven emblazoned in giant letters on it, oh my god,
Speaker 1: and many other elements of the surrounding area.
Speaker 4: Ah god, ah god, oh God.
Speaker 1: There may have been some contract or difficulty, but the
Speaker 1: major damage was caused by vandals. President dj T. The
Speaker 1: President later said that Piro quote unquote, folded like an
Speaker 1: umbrella end quote. Frankly, I think she choked because the
Speaker 1: judge was really vicious unquote. There was some speculation that
Speaker 1: he might fire the US attorney. That has not happened
Speaker 1: as of yet, but who knows.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's the Trump administration. Things could have
Speaker 4: changed by the time we finished recording this. Yeah, there's
Speaker 4: I got thirty percent chance things will have changed by
Speaker 4: the time we finished recording this.
Speaker 1: Obviously, it's good that these charges were dropped. It was
Speaker 1: very clear that the damage to the reflecting pool was
Speaker 1: not done by vandals.
Speaker 4: No, and that fucking late, middle aged former olympian bending
Speaker 4: briefly down to touch the water did not cost one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty foot cut in the fucking in this
Speaker 4: central Absolutely not.
Speaker 8: Oh god.
Speaker 1: Ohio House Rep. Max Miller, who's accused of abuse and
Speaker 1: breaking his two year old daughter's collarbone, which we covered
Speaker 1: last week, posted a video this week addressing the allegations
Speaker 1: made by his ex wife, saying, quote, if I had
Speaker 1: assaulted her, would she have offered to cook me dinner
Speaker 1: six days later? Un quote? The next day, Trump was
Speaker 1: questioned about Miller and said this, it's.
Speaker 5: A very sad thing. I know Max. He said, it's
Speaker 5: a good person. I mean I always thought he was
Speaker 5: a very good person. And I'm gonna let the families
Speaker 5: figure that out. Those families say, I know, they're working
Speaker 5: on it. It's a very sad thing, especially when you
Speaker 5: know somebody so well could be going through that when
Speaker 5: it's accusations, and I'm gonna let them figure that out.
Speaker 1: On Tuesday, it was announced the House Ethics Committee would
Speaker 1: open investigation after Mill himself requested a probe into the allegations.
Speaker 1: Let's go to an ad break and then return to
Speaker 1: talk about the primary elections in Michigan and Missouri.
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, we are back.
Speaker 1: This past Tuesday, left wing populist candidate Abdul al Said
Speaker 1: beat corporate backed and APAC backed candidate Hailey Stevens in
Speaker 1: the Democratic Senate primary in Michigan. In the week prior
Speaker 1: to the election, pulling and showed el Said pulling way
Speaker 1: ahead by double digits, but from election night he won
Speaker 1: by just one point forty eight point five percent to
Speaker 1: Stephen's forty seven point five percent. Very close race.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 1: The more traditional progressive candidate Mallorie mcmah borrow, who suspended
Speaker 1: her campaign months ago, got four percent of the vote
Speaker 1: over sixty thousand votes. El Sayid ended up winning by
Speaker 1: just fifteen thousand votes. But the fact that Tuesday wasn't
Speaker 1: a total blowout for El Sayid should not take away
Speaker 1: from the magnitude of this victory. Hailey Stevens had nearly
Speaker 1: seventy million dollars outside spending helping her in this race,
Speaker 1: about half of which came from APAC. El Sayid was
Speaker 1: outspent eleven to one. For the past month, pro Stevens'
Speaker 1: ads have completely dominated the airwaves.
Speaker 4: Jesus I didn't know it was that big a discrepancy
Speaker 4: in funding. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's a brutal This is the most expensive Democratic Senate
Speaker 1: primary and history. A pack and dark money really rallied
Speaker 1: for Stevens, especially in this past month.
Speaker 4: Whoops.
Speaker 1: Some of those ads and mailers just completely blanketing Michigan
Speaker 1: falsely implied that Stevens was endorsed by Barack Obama, which
Speaker 1: some voters cited as their reason for supporting Stevens. Other
Speaker 1: ads tried to smear Abdul as a sexist podcast bro
Speaker 1: for comments critical of Michelle Obama and Gretchen Witmer's politics.
Speaker 1: Stevens received the endorsement of Michigan's sitting governor, Gretchen Whitmer,
Speaker 1: as well as multiple Democratic establishment figures Pelosi, Jim Cliburn,
Speaker 1: as well as the Michigan Democratic Party, Black and Jewish caucuses.
Speaker 1: Israel and Palestine became a central issue in this race.
Speaker 1: In the last two debates, Abdul hit Stevens again and
Speaker 1: again over APAC and corporate funding. In the final debate,
Speaker 1: even the moderator questioned Stevens on whether her APAC funding
Speaker 1: would influence how she votes in Congress. Also in that
Speaker 1: last debate, Stevens lied on stage about taking money from
Speaker 1: utility companies. In an interview just a week before the election,
Speaker 1: Stevens addressed the attacks over dark money funding. Quote, it
Speaker 1: seems like we got the campaign finance zoomis Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: We've got to be really honest here. Who's benefiting from
Speaker 1: this level of infighting. It's the Republicans who've already have
Speaker 1: all their dark money all lined up and ready to go. Unquote.
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what those campaign of finance
Speaker 1: zuomies can buy you in the Senate.
Speaker 8: Israel comes to me in my dreams. I see Israel's
Speaker 8: future and I know that Israel.
Speaker 1: Will continue to exist for the Jewish people. Just the Zuomies.
Speaker 4: It's fine everyone, it's the Zuomies God, and she's Christ.
Speaker 1: I will not stop playing that clip because it's one
Speaker 1: of the craziest things to have. A then sit in
Speaker 1: congress person say yeah now, Hailey. Stevens tried to attack
Speaker 1: Abduel for having a super pack off his own, primarily
Speaker 1: funded by his father in law, who did donate three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars to the pack, which was the highest
Speaker 1: individual contribution. You know, three hundred thousand dollars from his
Speaker 1: father in law versus seventy million dollars set outside sped
Speaker 1: Dick is christ not a very compelling argument, but that
Speaker 1: was one of the main things that Stevens tried to
Speaker 1: hit abduel on during the last two debates when he
Speaker 1: brought up the massive amount of eight pack spending backing
Speaker 1: her campaign. Abdul has worked in public health since twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: and for Senate he ran on Medicare for All and
Speaker 1: abolishing medical debt, which he did for three hundred thousand
Speaker 1: residents of Wayne County in twenty twenty four as director
Speaker 1: of the county Health Department. His platform also includes repealing
Speaker 1: Medicaid cuts from Trump's quote unquote beautiful bill, codifying reproductive rights,
Speaker 1: and protecting gender affirming care. His quote unquote money out
Speaker 1: of Politics plank includes getting rid of citizens United to
Speaker 1: stop dark money packs, ending partisan gerrymandering, supporting Supreme Court reform,
Speaker 1: getting rid of the filibuster, abolishing ice, and at quote
Speaker 1: ice funds should be repurposed to build out the legal
Speaker 1: infrastructure of courts to create a clear pathway to citizenship
Speaker 1: for those who are stuck in limbo in our current system.
Speaker 1: Abdul supports Ukraine and opposes quote the illegal and unjustifiable
Speaker 1: war in Iran. He also opposes quote direct blank check
Speaker 1: funding to foreign militaries including Egypt, Israel, Saudi Arabia, the UAE,
Speaker 1: and others. And he supports an immediate arms embargo on
Speaker 1: Israel and rejects quote the false differentiation between offensive and
Speaker 1: defensive weapons, which is a reference to the Iron Dome.
Speaker 1: His Money in Your Pocket platform includes an anti monopoly
Speaker 1: FTC trade agreements negotiated with unions, restoring funding to the NIH,
Speaker 1: opposing private school vouchers, tying increases in the defense budget
Speaker 1: to an equal increase in education funding. Taxing capital gains
Speaker 1: over a million dollars at the same rate as ordinary income,
Speaker 1: closing loopholes used by the ultra wealthy, raising the marginal
Speaker 1: tax rate on earnings over one million, and a billionaire tax.
Speaker 1: He also supports a cost of living exemption on federal
Speaker 1: taxes up to fifty thousand dollars and closing these social
Speaker 1: security payroll tax cap for housing. His platform aims to
Speaker 1: streamline local regulations to make it easier to build, while
Speaker 1: banning large corporations that speculate on housing stock from owning
Speaker 1: homes and supporting legislation to ban algorithmic rental price fixing software.
Speaker 1: Al Said supports regulating AI companies, creating an independent technical
Speaker 1: agency with real enforcement power for AI, which he cites
Speaker 1: the FDA as an example, but having basically an FDA
Speaker 1: type organization to regulate and handle AI. He also is
Speaker 1: in support of federal zoning guidelines and legislation to protect
Speaker 1: communities from the consequences of data centers. In a primary debate,
Speaker 1: el Said said that data center projects must meet the
Speaker 1: following terms quote all union labor, no raising our utility rates,
Speaker 1: increasing our utility reliability, not touching our water. And there's
Speaker 1: got to be a community benefits agreement that's negotiated in
Speaker 1: good faith with all the money put into escrow on
Speaker 1: quote el Say. It is not a DSA candidate. He
Speaker 1: does not call himself a socialist, but he was endorsed
Speaker 1: by Bernie Sanders, AOC and campaign with Hassan Piker. He's
Speaker 1: also been backed by the UAW, National Nurses United, the
Speaker 1: Working Families Party, Jewish Voice for Peace, and If Not Now.
Speaker 1: A few days before the primary, but after polling, indicated
Speaker 1: that Abdul would likely be the nominee. Incumbent Republican Senator
Speaker 1: Mike Rodgers released an AI generated ad depicting Abduel as
Speaker 1: a communist trojan horse. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6: They'll never see us coming.
Speaker 1: They really think we're just democrats. God Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4: Every AI ad I hear Jeff Goldblum's fucking voice say,
Speaker 4: you were so obsessed with whether or not you could
Speaker 4: you didn't stop to think, you know, should we? Is
Speaker 4: this a good idea? Is this ad going to work?
Speaker 1: So basically, this ad has a trojan horse rolling into
Speaker 1: Michigan with a large banner reading definitely not Communism. Inside
Speaker 1: the horse, Abdul is dressed as Odysseus from the Nolan movie,
Speaker 1: along with Bernie Sanders, AOC and so on Mom Donnie.
Speaker 1: Text at the end reads don't let Communism into Michigan.
Speaker 1: Mike Rogers for US said it, I think Mike Rogers
Speaker 1: should keep releasing ads just like this, nothing else. I
Speaker 1: wanted him just to keep releasing these ads. I think
Speaker 1: that'll be great.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Rogers did release the statement after Abdul's victory quote. I
Speaker 1: spent years hunting terrorists and bringing Osama bid Laden to Justice.
Speaker 1: Never in a million years did I think that I
Speaker 1: would be running against someone who believes America deserved nine
Speaker 1: to eleven unquote. Abdul has never said that, obviously.
Speaker 8: And I also think that this is an example of
Speaker 8: just the sheer level of racism that has defined this campaign.
Speaker 8: And we also saw versions of this with Mom, Like
Speaker 8: just the unhinged amount of Islamophobia that has been leveled
Speaker 8: against a He just really really disturbing. And it's gonna
Speaker 8: get worse. Yeah, it's gonna get so much worse. Yeah,
Speaker 8: but it's but it's also like this is an example
Speaker 8: of his homophobia from the Republicans, for the Democrats have
Speaker 8: been doing it too, and it's extremely bleak the extent
Speaker 8: to which this is just a thing you can do
Speaker 8: running a political campaign.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because it isn't entirely, at least lately
Speaker 4: to their benefit either, like it it recently really screwed
Speaker 4: them over. In another Michigan race, right like Michigan's eighth district,
Speaker 4: the Republican primary between Thomas J. Smith, Amir Hassan, and
Speaker 4: al Limo. Thomas Smith took ahead even though he had
Speaker 4: like suspended his campaign this campaign, like more than a
Speaker 4: month ago, Amir Hassan had been endorsed by Trump and
Speaker 4: is not a Muslim, but has a name that kind
Speaker 4: of sounds like he would be like two a racist
Speaker 4: and so like it beast. That's the suspicion as to
Speaker 4: why Hassan did not do better against someone who was
Speaker 4: not actively running.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was not campaign.
Speaker 4: A lot of anger on truth social by MAGA people
Speaker 4: who thought that Trump had endorsed a Muslim.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just I mean, like, the level of bigotry
Speaker 4: is off the chart. It's interesting that it doesn't seem
Speaker 4: to or, at least in this case, it torpeded a
Speaker 4: Republican but not a Democrat, which I do think is
Speaker 4: kind of fun. But yeah, the overall trend is very
Speaker 4: much not fun.
Speaker 1: On a similar sort of note, last week, the Michigan
Speaker 1: State AGDNA Nessl announced at an ADL quote unquote anti
Speaker 1: Semitism roundtable that she would not be attending the Michigan
Speaker 1: nominating convention for their Democratic nominee over fears of being
Speaker 1: booed for working with Trump and cash Hotel's FBI to
Speaker 1: indict the pro Palestine student protesters in June.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to be.
Speaker 4: Attending the nominating invention for the Michigan Different Critical Party
Speaker 4: in August because it don't feel safe going. I feel like,
Speaker 4: if my presence is not even involving, I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to get it chased around.
Speaker 8: I don't want to get a prograss, I don't want
Speaker 8: to get development screedia.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get food off the.
Speaker 8: Stage, irrespective of what I'm saying. And I believe that
Speaker 8: if I go, that is both it's been happening to me.
Speaker 1: Dead fucked fucking yea, which good like you are?
Speaker 8: You are by definition a collaborator for having participated in this.
Speaker 8: That is like the the absolute bare minimum of accountability
Speaker 8: that you should be facing is that you should be
Speaker 8: booed every single place you go to.
Speaker 1: Her office has tried for years to go after propouse
Speaker 1: My protesters and has been forced to drop charges because
Speaker 1: her office was specifically discriminatory, and she only got her
Speaker 1: way via teaming up with the Trump admin and Cash
Speaker 1: Hotels FBI to go after student protesters. This is something
Speaker 1: she's been trying to do for literal years and has
Speaker 1: been unable to because her office is too racist.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and again also like student protesters were horribly brutalized
Speaker 8: by the police repeatedly, as I think most people who
Speaker 8: listen to this remember to some extents.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Also in Michigan, DSA endorsed Rashida telib handily
Speaker 1: won her reelection in the District twelve primary with seventy
Speaker 1: four percent of the vote. Also in Michigan, left wing
Speaker 1: populist and co founder of the Sunrise Movement, William Lawrence
Speaker 1: won the Democratic primary for House District seven with about
Speaker 1: fifty six thousand votes. Two more kind of moderate candidates
Speaker 1: each got thirty five thousand votes, so there is a
Speaker 1: sort of moderate split here. Lawrence will now be facing
Speaker 1: the Republican incumbent Tom Barrett, who won by just four
Speaker 1: points in twenty twenty four. There's two hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: six thousand votes to two hundred and nine thousand votes,
Speaker 1: so this could end up being a close race. Really
Speaker 1: depends on voter turnout.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, Lawrence is a member of DSA but is not
Speaker 1: DSA endorsed, though he does have the endorsement of Sanders
Speaker 1: l said Rashida Talib, Rocanna, the Nurses Union, Working Families Party,
Speaker 1: and track a PAK. Quick update here, Lawrence went on
Speaker 1: CNN a Wednesday night to clarify that while he used
Speaker 1: to be a member of DSA, he let his membership
Speaker 1: lapse last month. In the weeks before the election, Lawrence
Speaker 1: was attacked by the Democratic Establishment and the Congressional Black
Speaker 1: Caucus for being quote unquote racist because of a quote
Speaker 1: from a podcast conversation on black liberation and black anti
Speaker 1: war activism with an activist named Hui Peterson Smith. I'll
Speaker 1: read the full quote here that was clipped and spread
Speaker 1: around mainly by huff Post. Quote. The extent to which
Speaker 1: the older generation of black political leadership are such a pillar,
Speaker 1: frankly for establishment, capitalist, imperialist American power through their role
Speaker 1: as this kind of traditionalist establishment is pillar of the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party, It's a big problem. It's a big problem
Speaker 1: for left politics in this country, and it gets us
Speaker 1: every single time. It really defangs the white left and
Speaker 1: puts us in impossible positions. Really, quote Willly Lawrence told
Speaker 1: huff Post quote, I've tremendous respect for black community leaders
Speaker 1: who have been at the forefront of the fight for
Speaker 1: freedom for centuries. This was in the context of a
Speaker 1: wide ranging conversation with a guest on the show about
Speaker 1: racial dynamics in progressive politics. I regret how this specific
Speaker 1: point was expressed unquote, and yes, absolutely there is no
Speaker 1: reason to say the white left there specifically, this harms
Speaker 1: the entire left. There's really no reason to say that
Speaker 1: this is part of a larger conversation in this podcast
Speaker 1: he was having about racial dynamics in like left wing spaces.
Speaker 1: But I think that is a bad thing to say.
Speaker 1: Lawrence added to his statement online, quote The way I
Speaker 1: made this point was clumsy, and I regret my choice
Speaker 1: of words. I understand that potential impact when received out
Speaker 1: of context. The way the stories being reported does not
Speaker 1: reflect my beliefs. National elected leaders across race, ethnicity, age,
Speaker 1: and gender had been supporters of unnecessary US wars. This
Speaker 1: poses a challenge to the anti war movement. Americans of
Speaker 1: all races and ages must work together to advance peace.
Speaker 1: Until we do, our resources will go to funding war
Speaker 1: and genocide abroad, rather than investing in infordable housing and
Speaker 1: healthcare or closing the racial wealth gap. DSA candidate Donovan McKinney,
Speaker 1: beat Democratic incumbent Shri Tanadar by almost four percent about
Speaker 1: four thousand votes in House District thirteen, another close race.
Speaker 1: It was looking like Shri might pull ahead earlier in
Speaker 1: the night, but Donovan did end up winning and will
Speaker 1: now likely become another DSA congressman. Tanadar was backed by
Speaker 1: Apak Hakeem Jeffries, the Congressional Progressive Caucus, and the center
Speaker 1: left New Democrat Coalition. But it's not all wins in Michigan.
Speaker 1: Kyle Blomquist, another DSA candidate for Congress in Michigan House
Speaker 1: District one, lost to Moderate Haley Barr, who will now
Speaker 1: face the Republican incumbent in the general. And DSA endorsed
Speaker 1: Asha Ferruki lost to pro Israel Democrat Jeffrey Moss for
Speaker 1: Hailey Stevens House seat. So those are the two main
Speaker 1: losses for DSA last Tuesday, both US House seats in Michigan,
Speaker 1: though I think it is interesting to note that Detroit
Speaker 1: is now the only major city in the country to
Speaker 1: be fully represented in the US House by DSA candidates,
Speaker 1: and two DSA candidates for the Michigan State House also
Speaker 1: won their primaries. In Missouri, Corey Bush lost her comeback
Speaker 1: bid to incumbent Wesley Bell, who was backed by a
Speaker 1: pack and was also really really outspent, and the kansasy
Speaker 1: DSA endorsed candidate, Harzel Gray lost his primary for House
Speaker 1: District four by just under two thousand votes. Very close race,
Speaker 1: so lots of wins, some losses, but even just l
Speaker 1: said winning is probably the biggest blow to a pack
Speaker 1: that we've seen yet. Like like I said, this is
Speaker 1: the most expensive Democratic Senate primary in history. In a
Speaker 1: state with open primaries, where tens of millions of dollars
Speaker 1: in ad spending can go really far in rural areas
Speaker 1: and with older, low info voters, a left wing Muslim
Speaker 1: candidate overcoming both a PAC and the Democratic establishment in
Speaker 1: a swing state is a massive victory. I have one
Speaker 1: final little election update for the gobnatorial race in Ohio.
Speaker 1: Oh God, because in late July, Republican nominee for governor,
Speaker 1: the Veck Ramaswami, spoke or tried to speak at the
Speaker 1: Young Americans for Liberty National Convention, an annual Ron Paul
Speaker 1: esque convention for young libertarian conservatives at Xavier University in Cincinnati, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Ramaswami's speaking block was for thirty minutes. He lasted fourteen
Speaker 1: before being booed off stage. Let's take a lesson.
Speaker 2: Truth of the matter is.
Speaker 4: You know, no matter what happens in whichever direction goes.
Speaker 7: People by generation of party made it.
Speaker 4: We're gonna be fun.
Speaker 9: It's gonna be your generation.
Speaker 8: You're a political greed and you need to do everywhere
Speaker 8: seems like it's going great.
Speaker 1: So there are two cuts in that clip, but all
Speaker 1: that audio is from the last like two minutes of
Speaker 1: his speech. Ramaswami was also booed as he first went
Speaker 1: onto stage.
Speaker 4: Great sign, Great Sign.
Speaker 1: And throughout the fourteen minutes he was heckled over Israel,
Speaker 1: H one, B, visas, data centers, energy prices, and his
Speaker 1: comments about how the socialist government sees your home as
Speaker 1: a wealth asset, to which people in the crowd responded,
Speaker 1: we can't afford a home. Great.
Speaker 4: Also, isn't the whole premise of our economy that your
Speaker 4: home is like a wealth asset?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Like? Yeah, no, that's socialism, Robert.
Speaker 4: Doesn't everyone owns a home seat their home that way.
Speaker 4: Isn't that like the how all of the US economy
Speaker 4: is predicated on.
Speaker 8: I cannot emphasize this enough, literally, this distinction between between
Speaker 8: your house as a wealth asset and your house and
Speaker 8: you living in it.
Speaker 1: This is chapter one of capital.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a wild state.
Speaker 1: Well exactly, that is communist, That is kind I think
Speaker 1: I think that that is exactly Ramaswami's point. Throughout this
Speaker 1: fourteen minute speech. He tried to say that, like, the
Speaker 1: true divide in this country isn't isn't Democrats as Republicans,
Speaker 1: but winners versus whiners. So why would you be a
Speaker 1: whiner and complain about all these things when you could
Speaker 1: just win? And this actually mirrors one of Hailey Stephens
Speaker 1: kind of late campaign TOAs to refer to people to
Speaker 1: her left as being part of the quote unquote complaining class.
Speaker 1: Any like DSA, any kind of socialist person is part
Speaker 1: of the complaining class. Anyone talking about you know, Apac Israel,
Speaker 1: They're just complaining. Did not work out for Stevens, as
Speaker 1: we know, and this might not work out for Ramaswami either.
Speaker 1: Last month, the Cook Political Report switched the Ohio Gobnatoil
Speaker 1: race from Lean's Republican to toss up, and the latest
Speaker 1: New York Times Siena pol from late July has the
Speaker 1: race in a tie.
Speaker 8: All I have to add is that it's funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is funny.
Speaker 2: And I picture him walking around the RNC like once
Speaker 2: a month.
Speaker 1: He looked like a sad little guy, not that little.
Speaker 1: His hair was very tall.
Speaker 8: His hair was very tall.
Speaker 1: His veneers, we were very right, were veneering in the
Speaker 1: presidential race. You know, me and Robert were talking about
Speaker 1: how much, you know, Ramasami was trying to go after
Speaker 1: the sort of like Groyper type of young young conservative, right,
Speaker 1: that that was kind of what his like affect. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff he was talking about, seemed seemed
Speaker 1: to be rooted in and at this you know, young
Speaker 1: Conservative convention, he was like loudly rejected. Right, this is
Speaker 1: the type of person that he's like trying the most
Speaker 1: to appeal to in some ways, or at least used to.
Speaker 1: This was also the case when he when he was
Speaker 1: doing campaign events with Charlie Kirk, one of which I
Speaker 1: went to in Georgia before the presidential election. But he
Speaker 1: was he was definitely trying to go after this sort
Speaker 1: of like young male Republican and like get make sure
Speaker 1: you mobilize them to the polls, like that could be
Speaker 1: the thing that tips over the race, is like getting
Speaker 1: like young Republican males, and at least for the governatorial race,
Speaker 1: his strategy of like, you know, it's up to you
Speaker 1: to fix everything. Actually, millennials are going to be fine.
Speaker 1: Don't complain too much. Might not actually help mobilize young
Speaker 1: voters in support of his campaign. So we will see
Speaker 1: how that goes. Come come November. Let's pivot to add
Speaker 1: and then return for some prediction market and tariff news,
Speaker 1: two great tastes that go great together.
Speaker 4: And we're back. So I wanted to talk a little
Speaker 4: bit more about the munition's crisis. I've reported several times
Speaker 4: on the growing munitions crisis that the US military faces,
Speaker 4: not just but largely as a result of our war
Speaker 4: of choice with AROD advanced munitions. Though like one hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty five milimeters, artillery rounds have been stretched past
Speaker 4: the point of sustainability for years now, since the expansion
Speaker 4: of Russia's war with Ukraine, and so defense officials have
Speaker 4: spent much of the last four years scrambling to increase
Speaker 4: production of a number of different rounds. And there were
Speaker 4: a bunch of articles in like the spring early summer
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty five at the Trump industry crowed over
Speaker 4: about how they'd finally met their goal of quadrupling production
Speaker 4: of one hundred and fifty five millimeters rounds, and a
Speaker 4: major part of this was the construction and opening in
Speaker 4: midcoat twenty twenty five of a fully operated one hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty five millimeters artillery shell factory in Mesquite, Texas.
Speaker 4: The factory is named Union Technologies. So that's all what
Speaker 4: the administration reported last year. Right. I want to quote
Speaker 4: now from an article the Global Tactical Analysis Center put
Speaker 4: out in February of twenty twenty six. The US military
Speaker 4: is facing a significant crisis as production of one hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty five millimeters artillery rounds at the Mesquite factory
Speaker 4: has severely lagged. This shortfall raises alarms not only for
Speaker 4: domestic military readiness, but also for ongoing foreign military sales
Speaker 4: that depend on timely delivery of munitions. Army acquisitions are
Speaker 4: Bryn Ingraham expressed explicit dissatisfaction with the facility's performance during
Speaker 4: her recent congressional hearings, indicating that immediate investments are necessary
Speaker 4: to correct course and avoid further delays. The logistical and
Speaker 4: technical challenges at the Mesquite factory may involve outdated machinery
Speaker 4: or insufficient workforce levels to meet production quotas. Current estimates
Speaker 4: suggesting twenty five percent lag and output compared to contractual obligations,
Speaker 4: and that sounds bad in and of it it self.
Speaker 4: That's not accurate. The lag is a lot more than
Speaker 4: twenty five percent. Oh boy, yeah, yeah. The DoD Office
Speaker 4: of the Inspector General went out to look into what's
Speaker 4: going on with this plant and why isn't shell production
Speaker 4: up to where the administration said it would be. They
Speaker 4: spent several months investigating and put together a report that
Speaker 4: was published in mid July of twenty twenty six. Here's
Speaker 4: a summary from TWZ dot com. Despite receiving close to
Speaker 4: five hundred million dollars from the US Army funded through
Speaker 4: supplemental spending bills from fiscal years twenty twenty two and
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, General Dynamics, Ordnance and Tactical Systems failed
Speaker 4: to make a single subcomponent needed to produce the badly
Speaker 4: needed shells as of last March. Without the thirty thousand
Speaker 4: additional projectile metal parts anticipated from this skite facility, the
Speaker 4: Army will be unable to reach its monthly capacity goal
Speaker 4: of one hundreds hundred and fifty five millimeters artillery rounds.
Speaker 4: The report concluded, as of March twenty twenty six, officials
Speaker 4: have not developed a plan to produce the additional rounds
Speaker 4: that are supposed to be produced at the Mesquite factory.
Speaker 4: So this means that the US is produced and somewhere
Speaker 4: between the third and a half of the goal the
Speaker 4: Trump administration and claimed they'd already reached. That's a little
Speaker 4: hard for me to tell. I've heard as low as
Speaker 4: like thirty six thousand and as high as like seventy
Speaker 4: thousand shells a month that we're making, both of which
Speaker 4: are shorter than where we're supposed to be in For
Speaker 4: an idea of how much of a problem this is, Ukraine,
Speaker 4: when things are at a fever pitch, can fire up
Speaker 4: to eight thousand shells per day, which means they're shooting
Speaker 4: enough over there to account for a year of USHL
Speaker 4: production in two weeks. And as a result of this discrepancy,
Speaker 4: the US has seen at stockpile of one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty five millimeters shells reduced by three point six million
Speaker 4: rounds over the last several years. Jesus so I was
Speaker 4: curious as to what had gone so wrong that these
Speaker 4: fuckers haven't been able to make a single solitary component
Speaker 4: not fucking one. And it turns out this happened because
Speaker 4: the whole plot to have this Mesquite factory, you know,
Speaker 4: close the gap and production was based on a hope
Speaker 4: and a prayer, specifically a hope that the very old
Speaker 4: machines in the factory would be able to produce modern
Speaker 4: quality weapons. The IG's report called this a high risk
Speaker 4: production line, which is not the kind of production line
Speaker 4: you want for artillery shells per an article and tasked purpose.
Speaker 4: Rather than build new machines for the Mesquite plant, the
Speaker 4: IG said, the Army allowed General Dynamics to convert machines
Speaker 4: used for M one O seven shells an older one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five millimeters round that the M seven
Speaker 4: ninety five, which we use now replaced. The M seven
Speaker 4: ninety five can fire about six kilometers further than the
Speaker 4: M one O seven, carrying a far more powerful explosive charge.
Speaker 4: But the decision to try it the untested production program,
Speaker 4: the IG said, proved fateful Army officials believe the Mesquite
Speaker 4: facility was a high risk, high reward opportunity. The IG
Speaker 4: said the service accepted risk associated with the contractor's plan
Speaker 4: to purchase and adapt M one oh seven metal part
Speaker 4: production equipment, but the new production lines were never able
Speaker 4: to produce acceptable M seven ninety five parts using the
Speaker 4: reworked equipment, and the Army ordered the plant to stop
Speaker 4: work completely and stopped spending money. In August twenty twenty five,
Speaker 4: just months after the Trump administration claimed we were up
Speaker 4: two hundred thousand shells a month and that orders held
Speaker 4: through at least April of twenty twenty six. So we
Speaker 4: have no idea what's going to happen ultimately to this
Speaker 4: Mesquite factory. But I should note here that our munition's
Speaker 4: woes go even deeper than a lack of howitzer fuel.
Speaker 4: Earlier this year, Reuter's reporters Aaron Bonco, Mike Stone, and
Speaker 4: Jonathan Lanley published an exclusive article titled US has used
Speaker 4: virtually all off its long range precision missiles during Iran Wars,
Speaker 4: sources say, citing three people familiar with the data, the
Speaker 4: article claims that the US has used virtually all of
Speaker 4: our army tactical missile systems and precision strike missiles. The
Speaker 4: army tactical missile systems are like the older missiles we
Speaker 4: were using. The precision strike missiles are the new ones.
Speaker 4: These are our main surface to surface weapons, and it
Speaker 4: gets worse to continue with another quote from that Reuter's piece.
Speaker 4: Military leaders have for weeks warned the president the stockpiles
Speaker 4: of defensive weapons, including Patriot interceptors, which are effective against
Speaker 4: ballistic missiles, were dwindling, said two of the sources. Last week,
Speaker 4: several media outlets reported Trump had decided not to launch
Speaker 4: another massive offensive inside a Rod in part because his
Speaker 4: military advisors had warned about the US stockpile. A US
Speaker 4: official dispeeded those accounts, saying Trump's chose not to move
Speaker 4: forward with another attack because of pressure from Gulf States. Now,
Speaker 4: based on the most up to date info, we have
Speaker 4: at least sixty five percent of our Patriot interceptors have
Speaker 4: been used since February, and THAD stockpiles are down by
Speaker 4: at least thirty eight percent. We've also used about half,
Speaker 4: if not more than half of our Tomahawk stockpile. None
Speaker 4: of these weapons can be replaced at rates that are
Speaker 4: even close to the rate we are burning them. And
Speaker 4: these are also the weapons systems that we would rely
Speaker 4: on most in the event of a conflict with Russia, China,
Speaker 4: or any other major power, which is why so many
Speaker 4: people in the defense industry are freaking out to the
Speaker 4: degree that Trump has had to pull back on some
Speaker 4: of his plans because they are telling them, hey, man,
Speaker 4: if we get into some serious shit and not this
Speaker 4: fuckery you're doing in the Gulf, we're screwed. Why we
Speaker 4: can't make more of these So anyway, the reason I
Speaker 4: keep beating the drum onlike the AMMO shortage, is because
Speaker 4: I'm certain that in history books in the future there
Speaker 4: are going to be pages written about this before whatever
Speaker 4: fucking disaster comes our way next. So that's cool. Keep
Speaker 4: your eye on that. The other thing you should keep
Speaker 4: your eye on is that we have now added in
Speaker 4: a new kind of gambling market to our gambling on
Speaker 4: things that are not traditional gambling industry, which is I guess,
Speaker 4: the only growth industry in the country. Aside from data centers.
Speaker 4: There's now a bunch of different services that are letting
Speaker 4: people gamble specifically on wildfires and where they hit and
Speaker 4: how much damage they do. Oh Jesus, yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 4: I want to quote from an article in Oregon Live
Speaker 4: as Oregon surpassed its wildfire acreage record over the weekend
Speaker 4: with more than two million acres burnt. Oregon lawmakers also
Speaker 4: raised a new wildfire concern Monday, as prediction markets continue
Speaker 4: to allow people to place bets on wildfires, saying it
Speaker 4: could lead to more human caused fires. In a letter
Speaker 4: to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which regulates prediction markets,
Speaker 4: Senator Jeff Merkley led lawmakers from other wildfire stricken states
Speaker 4: and Senator Ron Wyden in urging the agency to crack
Speaker 4: down on wildfire related contracts. The group warned that the
Speaker 4: markets could create financial incentives for arson. And that's the
Speaker 4: big deal, is that, Like, if you're letting people gamble
Speaker 4: on this shit, Yeah, firefighters might be incentivized to fuck
Speaker 4: with stuff. Regular people could be in scent devise to
Speaker 4: fuck with stuff. We've seen this happen already. Like I
Speaker 4: reported a couple months ago about that Israeli journalist who
Speaker 4: like posted a video of a missile failing to get
Speaker 4: intercepted and like hitting into some trees, and he started
Speaker 4: getting death threats because people were gambling on like how
Speaker 4: whether or not it would be intercepted, and his reporting
Speaker 4: was inconvenient to them. Shit's going to be happening like
Speaker 4: that with fires in addition to people trying to start them.
Speaker 4: If this is allowed to go right, polymarket lets people
Speaker 4: bet on not just wildfires, but a variety of natural disasters.
Speaker 4: People can choose yes or no on as to whether
Speaker 4: or not they think a Category five hurricane is going
Speaker 4: to hit the United States, or like a volcano is
Speaker 4: going to erupt. It's just a really bleak thing. And
Speaker 4: there's one of the things that I read recently is
Speaker 4: there's there's even a new markets focused specifically on gambling
Speaker 4: on California wildfires called Wildfire wyldfyr. The company tagline is
Speaker 4: you can't predict wildfire, but you can trade on it.
Speaker 4: And I want to quote from High Country News and
Speaker 4: an investigation of this company. Currently, wildfire users can only
Speaker 4: simulate trading, but according to the site, the ability to
Speaker 4: bet with real money is coming soon. The platform purports
Speaker 4: to be the first prediction market of its kind, pricing
Speaker 4: county and city wildfire risk in real time. California burns
Speaker 4: every year, and it's getting worse. The question is an if,
Speaker 4: it's when and where the site reads wildfire frames. Its
Speaker 4: platform is providing a public good. Wildfire turns collective intelligence
Speaker 4: into better wildfire forecasting, one trade at a time.
Speaker 1: The site reads, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 4: But entities with a real need for wildfire forecasting, including
Speaker 4: federal and state firefighting agencies, say they aren't interested in
Speaker 4: prediction market data. The Forest Service does not use information
Speaker 4: from prediction markets for wildfire forecasts. It why they don't
Speaker 4: even need to go. It's useless, it's useless. And everyone's
Speaker 4: saying this is an idiot and a liar.
Speaker 1: It's insane, this, this whole thing. It's like we can
Speaker 1: chart like the world's collective knowledge because.
Speaker 4: Money, fucking morons.
Speaker 1: Money you know, speaks, speaks more truthfully than just words.
Speaker 1: Is just complete, complete nonsense.
Speaker 4: No people gott to burn down their own neighborhoods get rich.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you look at how much prediction
Speaker 1: markets have been wrong about a sequence of like high
Speaker 1: profile elections just in the past year, shows that this
Speaker 1: is not useful or reliable data. There is no you know,
Speaker 1: hidden truth that prediction markets can can can find through
Speaker 1: the the quote unquote wisdom of crowds. And like this,
Speaker 1: this specific thing on these wildfires is like a two
Speaker 1: pronged issue. One kind of evil right to just you
Speaker 1: know win money based on the deaths of However, many
Speaker 1: people in natural disasters.
Speaker 4: The destruction of other lives everything they've built, the fear.
Speaker 1: And so like, you know, like death markets is like
Speaker 1: one one aspect. The other you know aspect is if
Speaker 1: if someone has a lot of money riding on a
Speaker 1: certain wildfire hitting a certain location, then yeah, there is
Speaker 1: financial incentive to maybe cause a fire to hit a
Speaker 1: certain location.
Speaker 4: Or try to pay someone else to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like that aspect as well.
Speaker 4: It's evil for so many reasons.
Speaker 1: Obviously should be illegal, like it's insane.
Speaker 4: Should be hanging these people. I mean, uh, I.
Speaker 8: Remember when arguing over whether the market is an information
Speaker 8: processor that like, like as you're saying, like has like
Speaker 8: all of this collective intelligence from market signals that it's
Speaker 8: like the most difficient information processor versus arguing that it's
Speaker 8: a gambling den like that used to be an academic
Speaker 8: debate and now it's just like, oh no, we're doing
Speaker 8: this on fires and it's just gone every every everything
Speaker 8: that was once metaphor is now literal and all of
Speaker 8: the metaphors suck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is pretty fucked up. I I know that
Speaker 1: this was a this was a concern that was talked
Speaker 1: about with like the La fires yep last year or
Speaker 1: two years ago, because I know there was polymarket or
Speaker 1: caw she betting on those, and that that created like
Speaker 1: a little mini news cycle of like talking about this
Speaker 1: maybe being a problem, but like the scale which this
Speaker 1: is like accelerated is crazy.
Speaker 4: Again. I used to do like sports gambling ads because
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with gambling like ethically, the
Speaker 4: same way I don't have a problem with liquor and whatnot.
Speaker 4: And then it just became very clear before too much,
Speaker 4: Oh wait, no, this isn't your father's gambling. This isn't
Speaker 4: going to fucking like things are well beyond hit heading
Speaker 4: to Vegas for like a weekend or playing cards online
Speaker 4: with your friends. This is turned into like everything, like
Speaker 4: this is the omni culture. It's almost the only recreational
Speaker 4: activity a lot of Americans have anymore. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be honest, I didn't see that happening. That took me
Speaker 4: by surprise. No.
Speaker 1: I used to have a lot more kind of libertarian
Speaker 1: views on gambling, sure, and now I am firmly in
Speaker 1: favor of of like harsh state intervention. Yeah, into basically
Speaker 1: all forms of digital gambling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you should be able to go to
Speaker 4: a casino and gamble, but I don't think you should
Speaker 4: be able to do it on your phone. Like I've
Speaker 4: turned around on that.
Speaker 8: No. Yeah, and you know, and you can you can
Speaker 8: look at those there's a whole bunch of data on
Speaker 8: like when when sports gambling is legalized in a state,
Speaker 8: like the bankruptcy rate increases. It's it's a catastrophe. Yeah,
Speaker 8: you know, I mean it's it's already devoured sports and
Speaker 8: it's now just devouring everything that's left of our society
Speaker 8: until something changes.
Speaker 1: Literally every anything else. Yeah, it's like what if you
Speaker 1: copied that model for literally any event happening in the world. Anyway, Well,
Speaker 1: at least the economy at large is doing fine, right me?
Speaker 8: Oh oh boy. Yeah, So let's let's let's check in
Speaker 8: with our dear friend. And by dear friends, I mean
Speaker 8: I don't know if he's an enemy of the show yet,
Speaker 8: but recurring character on the show. Yeah, we're recurring character
Speaker 8: on the show. Federal Reserve Chairman Kevin Walsh, who had
Speaker 8: a press conference to address the fact that in the
Speaker 8: face of you know, rising inflation, everyone was expecting there
Speaker 8: to be some kind of interest rate increase, and he
Speaker 8: didn't do one. And well, I mean that the Federal
Speaker 8: Reserve Board didn't vote for one, and he had a
Speaker 8: press conference that was so disastrous it triggered a giant
Speaker 8: sell off of US bonds, which is not good. I'm
Speaker 8: gonna read this piece from John Cassidy, who wrote an
Speaker 8: article in The New Yorker about it, because I think
Speaker 8: it captures the reactions to this quote. The selloff quote
Speaker 8: looks very much like a loss of confidence trade, one
Speaker 8: market analyst told The Financial Times. Another commentor, Dario Perkins,
Speaker 8: and economists at the Research from ts Lombard compared Worsh's
Speaker 8: press conference to Donald Trump's announcement last year of his
Speaker 8: Liberation Day tariffs, and to the disastrous UK Midi budget
Speaker 8: that costs Trust her job as Prime Minister in twenty
Speaker 8: twenty two, describing them all as occasions quote where you
Speaker 8: suddenly realize global policymakers are totally out of their depth
Speaker 8: and don't know what they're doing. Even some ex Fed
Speaker 8: officials who tend to be more guarded in their public comments,
Speaker 8: voice concerns. In an interview with Bloomberg, James Bullard, a
Speaker 8: former president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Saint Louis
Speaker 8: described Warsh's press conference as quote a little bit rocky,
Speaker 8: and the bond market's reaction as quote nerve racking for
Speaker 8: a central painter, I don't know. It sounds fine to me.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: A little bit rocky might seem a little timid to you,
Speaker 1: But for these people, that's like an insane thing to say.
Speaker 8: Yeah, for a federal Reserve banker, that is the equivalent
Speaker 8: of just nine alarm fire. Oh, I'm gonna read this
Speaker 8: one last part of it. Loretta Mester, who headed the
Speaker 8: Cleveland FED from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty four, told
Speaker 8: the Wall Street Journal quote I want to feel comfortable,
Speaker 8: but the FED knows what it is doing. I don't
Speaker 8: think it's sustainable what he's doing in terms of not
Speaker 8: saying anything. So that this risk conference went so badly
Speaker 8: that the current analysis from basically the day has happened
Speaker 8: until now, the analysis has been that actually, know, the
Speaker 8: FED is going to be forced to raise interest rates
Speaker 8: just to make the markets take like Walsh as a
Speaker 8: guy running the central bank.
Speaker 1: Seriously, Oh god.
Speaker 8: Economistic Bank of America labeled this a quote central bank
Speaker 8: inflation credibility shock, a term I have never seen before. So, okay,
Speaker 8: what did worsh actually say in this press conference that
Speaker 8: was this bad? Well, here here's Jackson baw at Fortune quote.
Speaker 8: He has vowed quote regime change and quote at the
Speaker 8: FED by rolling back so called forward guidance on where
Speaker 8: rates are headed and offered no such clues on Wednesday,
Speaker 8: even talking around no brain air questions on how to
Speaker 8: bring down inflation. So what does that actually mean? The
Speaker 8: Fed usually gives markets some indication of what they're going
Speaker 8: to do with interest rates. At our next meeting, the
Speaker 8: set interest rates, and you do this because you want
Speaker 8: to give people in the market an opportunity to plan
Speaker 8: around what the FED is probably going to be doing.
Speaker 8: Worsh thinks this is a bad idea, that is very weird.
Speaker 8: I don't think anyone has agreed with him that not
Speaker 8: talking to like the markets about what you're about what
Speaker 8: the FED is going to do. I don't think anyone
Speaker 8: has agreed with him since at least like the eighties,
Speaker 8: that the FED should just make his decisions in secret
Speaker 8: and not tell anyone. But that's not even the weirdest
Speaker 8: part of this. The weirdest part is that he's not
Speaker 8: just refusing to explain what the FED is going to
Speaker 8: do in the future, he is refusing to explain what
Speaker 8: the FED is doing right now, and that is really,
Speaker 8: really weird. People just asked him point blank, like, hey,
Speaker 8: why did you not raise interest rates? And she just
Speaker 8: would not give an answer, and that is the thing
Speaker 8: that has been making it seem like she has no
Speaker 8: idea what's going on.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 8: It's possible that this is pure incompetence. I think that's
Speaker 8: probably part of it. Like it being in competence is
Speaker 8: kind of bolstered by the fed's next move, which was
Speaker 8: to do basically a I don't know if bailouts quite
Speaker 8: the right term, but basically to pump a bunch of
Speaker 8: money into the end to maintain the value of or
Speaker 8: to increase and maintain the value of Japan's currency. Now,
Speaker 8: this is also a kind of cataclysmic thing. The US
Speaker 8: hasn't done this for Japan since I think literally it
Speaker 8: was the Reverse Plaza Accords in the late nineteen eighties
Speaker 8: as a way to like stave off the just complete
Speaker 8: ruin of the Asian markets during the Asian market collapse.
Speaker 8: So this in and of itself is remarkable. The Zoos
Speaker 8: hasn't done this since almost every economy in Southeast Asia
Speaker 8: was imploding during the end of the nineties. But the
Speaker 8: weirdest part is that instead of doing this by just
Speaker 8: selling dollars, right, he did it by selling euros, which
Speaker 8: is baffling. I have no idea why he did it.
Speaker 8: No one I've read seems to have any idea why
Speaker 8: he did this with the euros instead of dollars. Everyone
Speaker 8: is just extremely confused. So it's actually very funny because
Speaker 8: the thing I'm about to talk about next was brought
Speaker 8: up as the most important thing the FED had done
Speaker 8: during his tenure, and then this happened a few days later.
Speaker 8: So everyone is just completely baffled by what he's doing.
Speaker 8: None of it makes any sense. And it's not only
Speaker 8: doesn't make any sense, it's actively undermining itself because a
Speaker 8: lot of the things that he's doing, this yen purchase
Speaker 8: is supposed to be about restoring confidence in the Japanese markets,
Speaker 8: but then the US is doing some weird stuff and
Speaker 8: now everyone's going, what on earth is going on. The
Speaker 8: last thing I want to talk about with the FED
Speaker 8: specifically is because I think I kind of understand what
Speaker 8: he's doing. At least with the interest rates and why
Speaker 8: he's not talking about it. In order to get to this,
Speaker 8: we need to turn to some reporting from the New
Speaker 8: York Times, which reports that Warsh is trying to reduce
Speaker 8: the number of meetings that the FED has to decide
Speaker 8: interest rates. This is also really weird. The number of
Speaker 8: meetings to decide indust rates hasn't changed since the eighties, So, okay,
Speaker 8: why is he trying to eliminate? But as he's trying
Speaker 8: to eliminate these meetings, and when you put it all together,
Speaker 8: the reason why he doesn't want to say what the
Speaker 8: FED is going to do in the future and he
Speaker 8: wants to have less meetings is that there is a
Speaker 8: FED meeting in September, right before the midterms, and if
Speaker 8: he raises interest rates, which is exactly the opposite of
Speaker 8: what Donald Trump wants right before the midterms. And this
Speaker 8: is one of John Cassie's interpretations. If he does this,
Speaker 8: he could get fired by Trump. So he doesn't want
Speaker 8: to raise interest rates right before the midterms. So he's
Speaker 8: taking a stance of not saying anything to the media
Speaker 8: and then potentially even canceling this September meeting in order
Speaker 8: to not have to do this, so that's great. I
Speaker 8: think it's an argument as to whether the US Federal
Speaker 8: Reserve is the single most important institution for all of
Speaker 8: global capitalism. I don't know if you can win the
Speaker 8: argument that it's the single most important one, but it's
Speaker 8: one of the most important institutions, and it is apparently
Speaker 8: being run by a guy who is making economic decisions
Speaker 8: with the entire global economy based on him trying not
Speaker 8: to get fired, So this can only go great.
Speaker 1: One of the silliest things about that that purchase of
Speaker 1: yen was the photos leaked from the meeting with the
Speaker 1: notepad they like, oh God, to do Collin buy knveellion
Speaker 1: US dollars worth of yet.
Speaker 4: Remarkably similar to my shopping list the other day when
Speaker 4: I went to Alberts.
Speaker 1: That's concerns me as I feel like he shouldn't behavil
Speaker 1: to remember to buy ten billion yen ten billion US
Speaker 1: dollars worth of yen?
Speaker 4: Is there not a better method to make sure that
Speaker 4: happens in the US government.
Speaker 8: I cannot emphasize this enough. The last time we did
Speaker 8: something like this with Japanese currency. It has an actual name.
Speaker 8: It's called the reverse Plaza Accords. It was a transformational
Speaker 8: milestone moment in what the American economy was going to be,
Speaker 8: because that was the moment the US abandoned having a
Speaker 8: manufacturing economy. Like that's the kind of decision that is
Speaker 8: being made here, and it's being written on a notepad,
Speaker 8: Like it's.
Speaker 1: Just just just throw that thing on a notepad. I'll
Speaker 1: do that later this afternoon. I admit I thought.
Speaker 8: Worsh because Worsh had been like with with a Federal
Speaker 8: Reserve bank before, I thought he was going to be
Speaker 8: like slightly more confident than this. But this, this entire week,
Speaker 8: Hassed has raised what I think the odds are of
Speaker 8: the Federal Reserve completely screwing things up and blowing up
Speaker 8: the entire global economy significantly. Because if this is the
Speaker 8: kind of shit that you're doing, like a couple of
Speaker 8: months into being in office, we are in for a
Speaker 8: long eight years. Assuming I guess he doesn't like purge by.
Speaker 1: Trump posting a picture of Jerome Powell hurts like shit,
Speaker 1: just want him back?
Speaker 8: God uh.
Speaker 1: Uh. Finally, I want to conclude on some tariff talk song.
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Speaker 1: this song in that last episode.
Speaker 4: They won't forget bad.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're we're fixing it. We're fixing it. On Monday,
Speaker 8: half of the states in the Union, that is twenty
Speaker 8: five total states sued the Trump administration over the regime's
Speaker 8: tariff policies. What is bleak here is that because of
Speaker 8: the speed that the courts move at, and because the
Speaker 8: speed that these attorney generals are moving at, these lawsuits
Speaker 8: are coming in an entire teriff cycle behind.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So these lawsuits are over the administration Section three zero
Speaker 8: one teriffs, which were the forced labor ten to twelve
Speaker 8: percent tariffs on basically all US imports that are supposed
Speaker 8: to be about forced labor. And as as I mentioned before,
Speaker 8: this is an entire cycle of tariffs behind where the
Speaker 8: Trump administration actually is now, which is his even more
Speaker 8: illegal usage of Smoot Holly tariffs against Canada. We are
Speaker 8: still awaiting the lawsuit about that one because they just
Speaker 8: haven't gotten there yet. So it's fun in real time
Speaker 8: to get to see the stuff I said last time
Speaker 8: I was talking about tariffs, about how Trump is just
Speaker 8: going to be able to keep using the tariff justification
Speaker 8: because it just takes time for stuff to get to
Speaker 8: the court. Where we're seeing that here. I mean, I
Speaker 8: guess the Section three oh one tariffs don't have a deadline,
Speaker 8: but who knows how long it's going to take to
Speaker 8: get rid of those ones, or if you could see
Speaker 8: a scenario where those tariffs are irrelevant, as we saw
Speaker 8: with the terroiffts that he imposed earlier this year that
Speaker 8: were nominally about like the US having a balance of
Speaker 8: payments crisis, where there were lawsuits about it, but the
Speaker 8: lawsuits don't matter because the authorization expired. Were probably we're
Speaker 8: gonna see a similar thing like that where these terrorists
Speaker 8: are kind of irrelevant by the time this way to
Speaker 8: the courts. So amazing political system we've set up here.
Speaker 1: Well, that does it for us today at it could
Speaker 1: happen here. James sent over two donation links for the
Speaker 1: Spokane wildfires. Both should be at the top of the
Speaker 1: episode sources in the description. The first one is Spokane
Speaker 1: Tribalnetwork dot org. The second link is too long to
Speaker 1: fully read, but it's for the Spokane Complex Wildfire Response Fund.
Speaker 1: I can't read out the whole URL, but it should
Speaker 1: be at the top of these sources in the description.
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