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Speaker 1: Yes, Thanksgiving Day, family in football and the feast.

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Speaker 2: You don't need much to be rich on Thanksgiving Day.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock Bet. We

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Speaker 3: are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is the

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Speaker 3: show that makes the squares sharper. It makes the wise

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Speaker 3: guys pay attention. I am Chad Mellman. I am joined

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Speaker 3: as always by my bff, my companion, my Campadre, my

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Speaker 3: co host, Professional better, Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Sime Chad.

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Speaker 2: This week is truly the football fans holiday week. It

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Speaker 2: feels like, if you're a diehard football fan you love food,

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Speaker 2: this is our week, Thanksgiving Week. It's the so we

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Speaker 2: all know, right, you're just sitting around your family watching

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Speaker 2: three tend to be terrible games and it's the best stuff.

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Speaker 5: It's just as it's a very American classic thing. Now

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Speaker 5: as I get older, I start to appreciate more and

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Speaker 5: more of just family football on a Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, you know, I don't like food, but I

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Speaker 3: do love the football, and I do love my family,

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Speaker 3: especially because they have left the house and are now

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Speaker 3: coming back, which is pure, pure joy. I'll also get

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Speaker 3: my dad, his wife, my mother in law. It's going

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Speaker 3: to be a full house here in the Millman manch

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Speaker 3: I'm excited. I'm also excited because we got to do

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Speaker 3: a show today. And just a reminder to everybody, we

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Speaker 3: got the Tuesday show. So in the Tuesday show, we'll

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Speaker 3: have the brass Balls, we'll have the Chad's Choice, we'll

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Speaker 3: have the Simon says. We won't have a show on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: On Sunday we will do our parlay bets and rock

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Speaker 3: and a heart place and sharp calls and your biggest bets.

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Speaker 3: This is kind of like our Traducan show. It's the

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Speaker 3: Traducan of betting shows. It's full of our favorite bets.

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Speaker 2: Again, I have me Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 6: We got it to duckan right, Yeah, this thing here

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Speaker 6: is a D bone duck stuffed in a D bone

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Speaker 6: chicken stuffed in a D bone turkey. We're stuffing now

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Speaker 6: you're talking.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to hear my tro ducking story?

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Speaker 2: God? Do we have time for a story today? We

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Speaker 2: have to go through a lot of games. Shot, we

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Speaker 2: have time.

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Speaker 4: You always say no to my stories. I'll just tell

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Speaker 4: you this.

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Speaker 3: When I wrote the book The Odds, which is my

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Speaker 3: best selling book about the world of sports betting, that

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Speaker 3: I wrote, you know, twenty five years ago, a guy

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Speaker 3: from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, a lawyer in Baton Ruge, Louisiana

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Speaker 3: named Nathan Fisher, left me a message on my answering machine.

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Speaker 4: This is how long ago.

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Speaker 3: This was a message on my answer machine telling me

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Speaker 3: how much he loved the book, inviting me down to

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Speaker 3: Baton Rouge.

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Speaker 4: I went, because why not? Hung out with Nathan Fisher.

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Speaker 3: That led to that led to me doing the story

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Speaker 3: about Big Baby Glenn Davis. I remained friends with Nathan Fisher,

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Speaker 3: and every year Nathan Fisher for the holiday would send

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Speaker 3: me a tru duccin.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do some Thanksgiving football because that's what we love.

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Speaker 3: Green Bay at Detroit Detroit minus two and a half. Look,

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Speaker 3: early money pulled this from three to two and a half.

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Speaker 3: Money coming in on the Packers, and they were the

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Speaker 3: more dominant team on Sunday if you look at it

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Speaker 3: in their matchup with Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: But that's not saying much.

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Speaker 3: Considering JJ McCarthy, who we're going to dig into a

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Speaker 3: little bit later. The Lions got beat up and down

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Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs at the end of the game to win.

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Speaker 3: It's a weird game for me.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I.

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Speaker 3: Want to take the two and a half, and then

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's a little bit of a sucker

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Speaker 3: bet because it's already moved against me and I'm taking

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Speaker 3: a bite that I shouldn't take. I haven't played this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's unique.

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Speaker 5: We're just I think we're both in the same boat.

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Speaker 5: We've got burned by this Lions team. We don't really

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Speaker 5: trust him right now. But like I talked about last week,

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Speaker 5: that felt very fluky with that Giants game. Like I said,

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Speaker 5: you're just two trick play touchdowns that just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 5: One trick playing the game touchdown is very rare. I

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Speaker 5: don't even think any other game had to play touchdown.

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Speaker 5: They had two against them, this Lions team. So you know,

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Speaker 5: as much as I want to be up their defense,

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Speaker 5: they did have guys streaking wide open and James took

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Speaker 2: This Packers team.

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Speaker 5: Even watching that game against the Vikings, it felt like

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Speaker 5: it was exactly what you said. It felt like JJ

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Speaker 5: lost that game and gifted it to the Packers. Packers

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Speaker 5: really beat them and played that great. I mean respect

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Speaker 5: joke that Thanksgiving it's like they have good food and

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Speaker 5: a lot of crappy football, and it's just because it

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Speaker 5: is a chalk heavy day. We've talked about this said nauseum,

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Speaker 5: to bring up about how unique Thanksgiving is and just

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Speaker 2: So we know the deal.

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Speaker 5: Favorites on Thanksgiving since two thousand and four, fifty one

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Speaker 5: and nine, straight up, jaed, Okay, that's that's pretty shocking.

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Speaker 5: The more shocking part is against the spread, they're forty

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Speaker 5: give us these favorites, and unfortunately only double digit favorites,

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Speaker 5: which is insane. They're ten to zero against the spread Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: But you know, this is a unique spot and from

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Speaker 5: the pros I've talked of that back this Packers, Like

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Speaker 5: It's just about the overtime and all the stats that

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Speaker 5: But my pushback against that was their offense had two

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Speaker 2: Is that just bo nicks just terrible, terrible game.

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Speaker 5: They barely won ten to seven, Like it was just

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Speaker 5: very fluky to me. Where the Raiders scored seven points,

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Speaker 5: doesn't cover consistently, so in this exact spot, so he's

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Speaker 5: failed to cover in two straight games. Now he's nineteen

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Speaker 5: tough where it's like usually the Lions of Campbell bounce

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Speaker 5: I've seen a tougher in a little four stats too

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Speaker 5: about him being a dog before. I believe he's eighteen

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Speaker 5: just I gotta trust this Lions team. The numbers move

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Speaker 5: too much. I just think they're the better team honestly

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Speaker 2: With the Packers they dominate.

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Speaker 5: I feel like they're feeling good coming to this game,

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Speaker 5: and the public is backing up that sentiment, like you said,

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Speaker 5: they're taking a ton of money right now. And this

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Speaker 5: numbers move so again, I don't know if it's gonna

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Speaker 2: Our contest picks.

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Speaker 5: Like you said, you're not too confident it, but I

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Speaker 5: do really like it now that it's down to two

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Speaker 2: I think that's that's a Lions number. This point.

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Speaker 5: but now that's two and a half. I just you're

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Speaker 5: out indoors. I I just can't pack the Packers again.

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Speaker 4: This Lions team and the Packers.

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Speaker 3: Neither of them look right with offenses that are supposed

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Speaker 3: to be amazing. Goff is thrown for a thousand few

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Speaker 4: Sam is not on the field. So we're betting a

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Speaker 3: I think based on past history and offensive performance. I'm

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Speaker 1: We're on the bus getting ready to broadcast the traditional

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Speaker 2: To me, there's nothing better.

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Speaker 6: There's just certain things that go together, you know, the turkey,

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Speaker 3: One of those games that's getting really really interesting is

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Speaker 3: Kansas City is now a three point favorite at the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: But this line was four and a half and it's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And this was a game talked a little bit

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Speaker 2: And just like the Raiders, this is a spot me.

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Speaker 5: You look at all the data right and historically teams

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Speaker 5: you know, we were always looking for advantages here.

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Speaker 2: I am shocked this numbers.

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Speaker 5: Moved because I just told you, people like the favorites,

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Speaker 2: And you know, like we're talking about right now.

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Speaker 2: One, I am shocked. I am shocked. The Cowboys again,

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Speaker 2: it was an incredible win, that come back win, but

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Speaker 5: They they they felt like they dominated that into the

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Speaker 2: As good as they were, they made the plays.

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Speaker 5: It felt like it was the Eagles that just totally

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Speaker 5: I'm on the Cowboys they're talking about. There's still three

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Speaker 5: the sense that we tend to fade the Cowboys on

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Speaker 5: it's not that great of a number.

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Speaker 2: Like that's the honest truth about it.

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Speaker 5: I think Dak in his career is two and five

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Speaker 5: that's we talk all the time, that becomes a Mahomes number.

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Speaker 2: Stat, But I do love this stat.

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Speaker 5: The Lions and the Cowboys haven't covered on the same

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Speaker 2: Dead two thousand and.

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Speaker 5: One, these two teams have played Everything's Giving together, So

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. If the Lions covered that early game,

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be putting more money to this Cowboys team.

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Speaker 5: It sounds stupid and random, but I always love those

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Speaker 5: again that that just says how bad the lives have

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Speaker 5: we've talked about this Cowboys team, how they've had a lull,

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Speaker 2: There are things that given instead.

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Speaker 5: So I do love the Cowboys, but I was hoping

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Uh.

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Speaker 3: The line has moved I think too much to really

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Speaker 3: right in the line of where you want to invest

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Speaker 3: in the Chiefs at this number. I don't think anyone

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Speaker 3: There's just no edge. You know, we're trying to find edge.

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Speaker 3: We're not just saying you gotta bet every game. That's

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Speaker 3: not the point. And we're not betting games because of

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Speaker 3: a shitty team for twenty five of those years.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you about this stuff is looking good and

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Speaker 6: smelling good and tasting good. You got to dig in

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Speaker 2: It is good.

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Speaker 1: But you got a hurry because it's hitting close to

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Speaker 1: game time when we just like to say Happy Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: In the studio.

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Speaker 4: You know what is in insane betting.

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Speaker 3: The Cincinnati Bengals is seven point underdogs against the Baltimore

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Speaker 3: Ravens on Thanksgiving Day, when Joe Burrow is coming back

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Speaker 3: to play, So let's do it. We haven't gotten official

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Speaker 3: word that Joe Burrow is back, but all indications are

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Speaker 3: moved from seven and a half down to seven plus

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase will be back plus Chase Brown, who Simon,

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Speaker 3: kudos to you all Flowers. Early in the year, you

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Speaker 3: the last five.

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Speaker 4: Games, he's proving it.

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Speaker 3: Like the only time he's gone fewer than seventy yards

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Speaker 3: in the past five games. Was it in that in

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Speaker 3: that shootout with the Bears that the Bengals lost forty seven?

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Speaker 4: Forty too?

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Speaker 2: To me?

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Speaker 3: Seven is the number you give this game when La

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Speaker 4: Is it peak performance?

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Speaker 3: But if you even look at the game last week

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Speaker 3: They still look like they are struggling week after week

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Speaker 3: after week. Give me the Bengals plus seven.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love the Bengals, but it's it's a bizarre number.

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Speaker 5: I just I don't get why they're still giving us

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Speaker 4: And it did come down, and it came down from

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's that came out after it came out

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Speaker 5: that you know, Lamar wasn't practicing. He had a semi

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Speaker 5: But like we've talked about, none of us trust him

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Speaker 5: playing through injuries all season. So technically, like I've talked about,

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Speaker 5: on Thanksgiving, this is a spot to back the Ravens

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Speaker 5: because it's you want it.

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Speaker 2: Back to favorites.

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Speaker 5: Like I'm not trying to throch out on the bus here,

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Speaker 5: but Chad likes the three dogs this week on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: That's a killer. You don't want to be on Green.

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Speaker 3: By by the way, I didn't when did hold on.

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Speaker 3: I have not once said I liked the Packers.

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Speaker 2: I have said the answer three.

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Speaker 4: I said they were bet at three. I didn't say

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Speaker 3: I said the whole time I said I like the

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Speaker 3: Lions at two and a half. I just haven't bet

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Speaker 3: at minus three. I'm hoping you'll get to two and

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Speaker 3: a half. I have not bet that game yet. I've

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Speaker 3: bet one game on Thanksgiving so far, Cincinnati plus seven

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Speaker 2: That's all I've bet on Thanksgiving. People, you've already here first,

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's my whole point, though, you just

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Speaker 5: don't want to I liked all the dogs coming in this.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to take all the It's just historically

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Speaker 5: I gotta be careful here about this number and the seven,

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Speaker 5: because then we both agree it feels like it's way

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Speaker 5: last six times they played. Joe Burrow is one in

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Speaker 5: So to me, what I'm really banking on here is

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow as a big dog, and you know it's

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Speaker 5: So I really, before I put any more money into

443
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 5: I need to know it's Joe Burrow. Honestly, I haven't

444
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 5: bet to seven. We talked about it was seven and

445
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 5: a half eight and a lot of books were were opened.

446
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 5: I took that if it keeps going down, that would

447
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 5: make me feel a lot better. Because we talked about

448
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 5: you want to be on the public side, the more

449
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 5: money your side's on, like right now, the Cowboys are

450
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 5: the public side. Normally I back off of that, but

451
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 5: because it's Thanksgiving, that's a good thing. You want to

452
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 5: be on the public side on Thanksgiving, So I like

453
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 5: this number right now. It's every book you look at

454
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 5: right now. It's seventy percent of the bets and the

455
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 5: money right now are on this Spangals team. So it's

456
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 5: it's the public dog right it's it's a nice spot

457
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Speaker 5: for the Spangles team. I think everyone just does not

458
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 5: trust this Ravens team right now.

459
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Speaker 3: Nothing to trust. They just haven't dominated. Even that game

460
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,120
Speaker 3: when Lamar came back against the Dolphins in that first game,

461
00:20:59,119 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 3: they were twenty to six.

462
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 4: It wasn't a dominant Lamar performance.

463
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 3: He just hasn't gone full speed, full rpm because of

464
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 3: the variety of injuries between the hamstring, the knee, the toe.

465
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 3: He hasn't been practicing. You're getting Joe Burrow back. It's

466
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: just a big number. It's a big number. Chicago at Philadelphia.

467
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 3: The Eagles are challenged on offense. They've got injuries on

468
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Speaker 3: the offensive line, They've got issues in the secondary. This

469
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 3: line is so high it makes me feel like somebody

470
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Speaker 3: knows something and is making me nervous to bet the Bears.

471
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Speaker 3: Especially the fact that it moved from seven to six

472
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Speaker 3: and a half.

473
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Speaker 4: There's just something off about this.

474
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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is my Simon says, but give me the

475
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Speaker 5: Eagles minus six and a half at Hard.

476
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Speaker 4: Rocks, Simon says, presented by Hard Ruckt.

477
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Speaker 5: I want to play a game, Simon says, and shockingly,

478
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Speaker 5: I'm going against my model.

479
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Speaker 2: My model is this game at five. So it's it

480
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: still thinks the Bears are the right side.

481
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Speaker 5: I just I told you I I just think this

482
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 5: Bears team is bad and they've been playing against bad

483
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Speaker 5: competition in winning games.

484
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Speaker 2: But the Eagles might be bad as well.

485
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Speaker 5: I think they're twenty fifth now in offensive scuss rate,

486
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,239
Speaker 5: like they're not that good of a team either. I

487
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 5: just think that my best unit by far on this

488
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 5: field is going to be that Eagles defense, and this

489
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 5: is a great match up for them at home against

490
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 5: this Bears team that you know, if you can't get

491
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 5: the run game going, you're putting on Kayleb Williams. That's

492
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Speaker 5: that's disaster. You do not want to be in that spot.

493
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Speaker 5: I think that's what the Eagles are going to put

494
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Speaker 5: him in here, and you know it's a unique spot

495
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 5: this Bears team. You look at the record, like you

496
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Speaker 5: just said, you would never expect them to be a

497
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Speaker 5: seven point dog when you know you could argue they're

498
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Speaker 5: just as good as the Eagles team, especially when you

499
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Speaker 5: look out of the season's played out. But it's it's

500
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 5: honestly a great spot for this Eagles team. That you know,

501
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 5: most teams played divisional games and that's really physical and

502
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 5: they struggle the following game. So you know, since last year,

503
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 5: teams coming off a divisional game one hundred and thirty

504
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 5: five one hundred and thirty against the spread, so five

505
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 5: game difference, that's nothing.

506
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Speaker 2: Right now, the Eagles they're ten.

507
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 5: To zero against the spread in the spot governing by

508
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Speaker 5: ten points per game.

509
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: How many years.

510
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Speaker 2: Two years? Is that? Is that too far back for

511
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 2: each Chad?

512
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Speaker 4: No, that's perfect.

513
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

514
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Speaker 3: If it was like ten years going back to the

515
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 3: nineteen fifties, I'd be like, I kind of don't buy it.

516
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 4: But two years is plenty.

517
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 5: I know you hate history, you would invade Russia. We

518
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 5: know we'd lose the war in the winter. We've done

519
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 5: over this. But to me, I just I I'm trying

520
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 5: to take my faint amount of it. How bad this

521
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 5: Eagles team looked and just look at straight numbers and

522
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 5: it's like, okay, matchup wise, this is a great matchup

523
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 5: with the Eagles team against a defense Chad knows. You

524
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 5: guys had no linebackers. You have no Your secondary is

525
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 5: totally banged up. They've lived off the turnovers. That's been

526
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 5: the saving grace.

527
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: Of the Spars team anytime they need a short field turnover.

528
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: This Eagles team, that was the fluke of the fluke

529
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: last week.

530
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 5: Right, they had these stupid fumbles, these stupid turnovers that

531
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 5: they usually don't make. They're just a team that has

532
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 5: not turned the ball over. So you would expect to

533
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 5: be a get right spot for this Eagles team. And

534
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 5: it's really about how numbers move. Like I talked about it,

535
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 5: if it was still seven seven and a half, I

536
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 5: probably would have avoid it. But now that it's com under,

537
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 5: it's down to six and a half here, it could

538
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 5: keep moving. I'm not gonna lie people. You don't have

539
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 5: to rush about this one. I'm just gonna grab it

540
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 5: now in case professionals do coming on the Eagles side,

541
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 5: because I I love this spot and it's not shocking

542
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 5: to see that.

543
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 2: You know, this is the week everyone's just bearing the Eagles.

544
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 5: I joked with you, I couldn't wait to listen with

545
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 5: WIP on Sunday night because I just knew all these

546
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 5: Eagles fans are going to lose. In their minds, it's,

547
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 5: you know, one of the worst losses they've ever suffered.

548
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 5: And yep, I think it's the first time since the

549
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 5: nineties the Egles have blown a twenty point lead in

550
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 5: a game like that. So it couldn't be a lower spot.

551
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 5: It feels like for this Egles team that I think

552
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 5: the market's over reacting. We've again, we faded them last week.

553
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 5: The two weeks before that, we were riding the Egles

554
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 5: because the market is definitely reacting to the Eagles team.

555
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 5: So it's it's kind of a fun Seesawce spot. And

556
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 5: we talked by the time, the Egos are just a

557
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 5: different team at home. Jalen Hurts less thirty four games,

558
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 5: thirty and four straight up at home. You know this

559
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 5: is gonna be one of the more tease games this week,

560
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 5: so I won't be shocked see professionals coming in on

561
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 5: this Bear side. But I do love it now that

562
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 5: it's at six and a half for the Seagles team.

563
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm looking for a reason to bet against the Bears,

564
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: so I'm happy to go back.

565
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: I want to do on the Bears. We talked about

566
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 2: they're just more fun to bet on.

567
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 5: But I just it feels like this numbers moved too much,

568
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 5: Like this probably should be seven and a half eight

569
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 5: and now you're getting a six and a half.

570
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: I just can't believe it's move this much.

571
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: Houston at Indy Indy is a four point favorite. You

572
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: tag this one on Sunday night as a game. You

573
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 3: were betting the Colts immediately it was at three and

574
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: a half, and you expected a lot of fandom to

575
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 3: come in on the Texans because what they've done against

576
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 3: the Bills, and that it would move because the pros

577
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: would like the Colts, and that's kind of what happened.

578
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: We're seeing four. There's also four and a halfs CJ.

579
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: Stroud is expected to play this weekend. From your point

580
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: of view, this has to be a bet against CJ.

581
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: Stroud because Daniel Jones has definitely come back down to

582
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: earth the past say three to four weeks, and especially

583
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 3: last week in that second half against the Chiefs. So

584
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 3: the number that we're looking at are at four. Where

585
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 3: do we stand right now? Yeah?

586
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 5: No, I'm not gonna be the one defending Daniel Jones

587
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 5: too much, because like you said, it's we knew he

588
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 5: was gonna be inconsistent. It is Daniel Jones on the day,

589
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 5: but he did you know, these last three weeks were

590
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 5: tough spots, right he was at Pittsburgh, total meltdown game

591
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 5: by him, then went across the pond go play Atlanta,

592
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 5: came back to face the Chiefs like it has not

593
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 5: been the easiest road for him right after that bye week,

594
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 5: so you expect this to be the exact spot he

595
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 5: gets right against the Houston team that what if they

596
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 5: won five straight, it feels like six straight. I mean

597
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 5: they won three straight with Davis Mills came in. It's

598
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 5: it's been very bizarre how they turned it around and now.

599
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: They did lose a number. That's right because we were

600
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: on that game.

601
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 5: I remember now where we should have won that game

602
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 5: a thousand ways with CJ got.

603
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: Hurt and Houston lost that game against But.

604
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 5: You know, if you're telling me who does the best unit,

605
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 5: we both agree it's the Texans. We know the deal

606
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 5: Texas defense they're the best. But I just love this

607
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 5: matchup for the Colts team inside with you know, a

608
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 5: running attack that can just change the game in so

609
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 5: many different ways. We've seen Jonathan Taylor indoors, He's a

610
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 5: different beast. You get him on that turf, that speed.

611
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 5: It's been crazy this season. So yeah, the number is shocking.

612
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 5: I honestly, when I gave it out, I was like, Okay,

613
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 5: the pros will come in on it. I did not

614
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 5: see him moving a point because, like you said, I

615
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 5: mean hard rocks at four, but it's four and a

616
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Speaker 5: half a lot of books.

617
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, that was shocking to me.

618
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's tempting. They're begging us now to come

619
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 5: on the Texans. But yeah, I'm going to hold firm.

620
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 5: Like this match with this Colts team offensively, and we

621
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 5: saw a little bit last week.

622
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Speaker 2: I talked about it.

623
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Speaker 5: I think the fact they got wardback defensively, him and Sauce,

624
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 5: Now is there one in two corners?

625
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: That to me was a big deal.

626
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 5: Like they did shut down that passing game for a

627
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 5: long time. In that Chiefs game, eventually Mahomes he did

628
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 5: the Ma Homes thing where he scrambles around in circles

629
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 5: and eventually guys get open. The CJ gonna be doing

630
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 5: that his first game back after a concussion.

631
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

632
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 5: I see him playing a little timid here, So I

633
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 5: definitely like this number on this Colts team.

634
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Speaker 2: Are you sure you want to do this? Are you

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Speaker 2: willing to make a choice? What choice? We can't run from?

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Speaker 5: Oia sharp Dues can just see it, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean?

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Speaker 3: Going with the Cleveland Browns plus five and a half

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Speaker 3: at home against the San Francisco forty Niners.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I dodged a bullet last night.

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Speaker 3: I nearly pulled the trigger on the Panthers at plus

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Speaker 3: seven and a half. Like you and I, we discussed

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Speaker 3: it all week and like there was something we just

687
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: couldn't quite get there on the Panthers, at least for

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Speaker 3: purposes of the show.

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Speaker 4: And I was so tempted.

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Speaker 3: It was like I was still debating it up until

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Speaker 3: about six thirty. And then I spoke to a buddy

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Speaker 3: of mine, Mike Kerns actually who you know was at

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Speaker 3: the Churning Group recruited me to help them all launch

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Speaker 3: action and massive Niners fan, and he walked me back

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00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: on the Panthers. Didn't go exactly as sort of the

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00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: blowout that I think we had convinced ourselves it would

697
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: be San Francisco played fine, brock Purty. You know, three

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Speaker 3: picks the Panthers are really the reason why they didn't

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Speaker 3: cover that game. The miss field goals, the picks from

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Speaker 3: Bright Bryce Young. But we now got the San Francisco

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers on the road. This number is moved

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Speaker 3: from six and a half, So I'm betting into a

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Speaker 3: number that's moved. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: it's not about Dylan Gabriel being quarterback. It's not about

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Speaker 3: shred Roth Sanders being quarterback. It's about the Browns at

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Speaker 3: home as a dog with this defense that is going

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Speaker 3: to be much more effective than anything they saw against

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Speaker 3: the Panthers.

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Speaker 4: We both like this.

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Speaker 3: On Sunday night, when the Browns were six and a half,

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Speaker 3: that's when I bet it. But I'm still betting into it.

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Speaker 4: At five and a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Fortunately I did take the Panthers lost. I knew

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Speaker 2: it was going to but it was just as soon

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Speaker 2: as I won that Rams game and had all that money,

716
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Speaker 2: I was like, well, I can't just take this on

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00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: with me. I got to put some of this on

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00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: the Panthers. And like you said, those picks by Party

719
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: felt pretty good. But yeah, you he did act what

720
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Speaker 2: were worried about right. It was the game after his

721
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: historical best game in his career. He just totally melt

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Speaker 2: down and played terrible for this game. I mean, I

723
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Speaker 2: can't believe people are back in the forty nine ers here.

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Speaker 5: I'm so happy to see the numbers come down check

725
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Speaker 5: because yes, it had gone up to six and a half, which.

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Speaker 2: I said it might.

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Speaker 5: We talked a little bit Sunday night, but I was like,

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Speaker 5: what pros are hammering this forty nine Ers team on

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Speaker 5: the road here? Like this is I don't feel like

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Speaker 5: this is the right spot to be backing party in

731
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Speaker 5: this game. And you know, as much as we want

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Speaker 5: to fade Sanders after his big winning, my god like

733
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Speaker 5: him him talking in front of him, Mike. I get

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Speaker 5: why this coach won't say his name in press conferences.

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Speaker 5: He must just hate how cocky and arrogant this kid

736
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Speaker 5: is for you know, doing the bare minimum in this

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Speaker 5: We have eleven eleven passes or eleven competions in that game,

738
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Speaker 5: So you know, I I love Sanders. I feel like

739
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Speaker 5: the locker room loves them. The fan base seems to

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Speaker 5: love them. So as much as negativity this coach has

741
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 5: brought around it, it feels like everything I read the reports

742
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Speaker 5: and seeing stuff with the Cleveland team, they really rallied

743
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 5: around this kid. I believe they named him the starter

744
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 5: already for this game.

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00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did, so that that part.

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Speaker 5: She could be part of why the number moved as well,

747
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 5: just because maybe most people have him great and now

748
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 5: higher than Dylan Gabriel because at least he does do

749
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Speaker 5: one thing very well, which you can't say for Gabriel,

750
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Speaker 5: which is pushing the ball downfield. He does have a

751
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 5: pretty good arm. So yeah, this matchup, we've talked about it.

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Speaker 5: We just don't we don't trust this fourn aras defense.

753
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 5: We think they're suspect. Even against Carolina, Carolina felt they

754
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 5: were moving the ball up pretty well. It was just

755
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 5: the bright young turnovers that kept killing them. And you know, Canalis,

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Speaker 5: all of a sudden, the most aggressive coach in the

757
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Speaker 5: world is now playing cautious.

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Speaker 2: What the fuck I mean seriously? Like it just there's

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Speaker 2: no rhyme or reason. I've complained about this with a

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Speaker 2: lot of these coaches this year. It's like the one

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Speaker 2: day they do one thing, the next day they feel

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Speaker 2: a different way. It's like this just feel they're listening to

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Speaker 2: any type of math. They're just going strictly off gut,

764
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Speaker 2: which is not the right way to be. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: for this game, Chad nailed it. Like I love this

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Speaker 2: brand team.

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Speaker 5: It's it's unfortunate it's still not six and we talk

768
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 5: all the time it's such a key number, but you know,

769
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Speaker 5: this game should be closer to four, three and a half.

770
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 5: We're getting some free points here on a four niners

771
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 5: team that you know, they finally did it. They covered

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Speaker 5: a game after they had won a game, So now

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Speaker 5: they're two and fifteen after a win against the spread.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep going after that trend.

775
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Speaker 5: And it feels like another good spot where we've talked

776
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Speaker 5: we thought the number would catch up to this Browns

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Speaker 5: team at.

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Speaker 2: Home, feels like the books still haven't caught up to it.

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Speaker 5: It feels like we're still getting away with one here

780
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 5: on this Browns team at home, just how different they

781
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Speaker 5: do play and really diving into it the way this

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Speaker 5: matchup is going to play out. You know, Ken Purty

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Speaker 5: beat us, Sure, we know that that's gonna work out,

784
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Speaker 5: but you already know they're going to scheme up to

785
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Speaker 5: take away Christian McCaffrey. I'm excited to see what this

786
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Speaker 5: offense can do without him, because even that Carolina game,

787
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Speaker 5: I feel like every time they needed a big play

788
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Speaker 5: once again was McCaffrey getting that third down pick up

789
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Speaker 5: what you put it on Perty, I feel like he's

790
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Speaker 5: going to struggle. So I love this matchup with you

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Speaker 5: as well, in this Browns team, And yeah, it's gonna

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Speaker 5: be interesting what this number does when today morning, we'll will

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00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 5: it keep dropping or will we get a pop back

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Speaker 5: to six?

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Speaker 2: So people, if you want a rushing ticket now, just

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Speaker 2: to be safe, you can.

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Speaker 5: I think there is a world we get some professional

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Speaker 5: money on the forty nine's and we do maybe get

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Speaker 5: back to the six here, so you can be a

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Speaker 5: little patient with your money.

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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: I do think we get back to the six, but I

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Speaker 5: would not be shocked if a ton of professional money

804
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Speaker 5: came in and put this one down. We just like

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00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 5: we talked about, we just love this match, this Browns team,

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Speaker 5: and you know, as much you want to say, they're

807
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 5: not playing for anything that Miles Garrett going for that

808
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 5: sack record.

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Speaker 2: That's something I can motivate this team.

810
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 5: I think carry them throughout this cold dark days of

811
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Speaker 5: November December. Here so I think this can be a

812
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Speaker 5: highly motivated Browns team on like people for Steve Oh,

813
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Speaker 5: so you.

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Speaker 3: Think shandor Sanders is in plan to keep them from

815
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Speaker 3: drafting Fernando Mendoza or Dante More or anybody else who

816
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Speaker 3: is streaming up the draft charts right now?

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Speaker 4: Of course he is.

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Speaker 5: Have you seen the whole thing about how the Rams

819
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 5: traded Atlanta's pick? So the Rams potential are gonna go

820
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Speaker 5: to Super Bowl this year and get a top five

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Speaker 5: quarterback in this upcoming draft, next level of drafting and

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Speaker 5: GM worked by sneed.

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Speaker 2: He's the best he is. I mean, how really is got.

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Speaker 5: How we had his moments, but right now you've got

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Speaker 5: to say Snead's the best GM of football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the way he went all in, traded the picks,

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Speaker 3: got the Super Bowl, and now has rebuilt entirely off

828
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Speaker 3: of draft picks, it's impressive. Totally impressive. All right, we're

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Speaker 3: on the Browns. Good for us, Simon says with the Eagles,

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Speaker 3: so we're narrowing things down top and bottom right there.

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Speaker 3: Arizona Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is a two and a

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Speaker 3: half point favorite. The majority of bets were coming in

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Speaker 3: on Arizona largely because of the Baker news, and then

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Speaker 3: Baker's sort of there is news that he's potentially going

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Speaker 3: to play, and the news is better than they expected

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Speaker 3: it to be. On his injured left shoulder that knocked

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Speaker 3: him out of the game against the Rams on Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: Part of me feels a little bit better if it

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Speaker 3: was Teddy Bridgewater. Did you know Teddy Bridgewater has been

840
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Speaker 3: under five hundred in his career against the spread during

841
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Speaker 3: just one season in which he was the primary quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That was six and eight when he was the quarterback

843
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: for the Broncos for fourteen games in twenty twenty one.

844
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Speaker 3: That year as a starter, he went five and nine.

845
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Speaker 3: Even when he had a record of five and ten

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Speaker 3: with the Panthers, he went eight and seven against the spread.

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Speaker 3: Teddy Bridgewater we used to call him Teddy Covers because

848
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Speaker 3: of how often he would cover when he was a

849
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Speaker 3: starting quarterback. So, you know, if everybody is going to

850
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Speaker 3: be fading the Bucks off of that bad loss, off

851
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Speaker 3: of a streak of bad losses off of a Baker injury,

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Speaker 3: I'll go ahead and fade the public here and lean

853
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Speaker 3: into the Bucks. But for some reason I don't want

854
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: to do if it's Baker.

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Speaker 5: Teddy two gloves. Yeah, I love this too. I was

856
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Speaker 5: honestly thinking about Migu. Simon says that it feels like

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Speaker 5: cheating because I feel like we, no matter what, people

858
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 5: should be betting this bucks two and a half right

859
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 5: now a hard rock to me. If it is Baker,

860
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 5: you could see this number jump right back up to

861
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Speaker 5: six six and a half, Like this number could be

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Speaker 5: moving because that means they're getting Baker back and Bucky Irving.

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Speaker 5: That would be a huge, huge deal. And I'm with you,

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Speaker 5: like I don't mind it being Teddy, but you know,

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Speaker 5: for them for themselves to protect Baker probably would be

866
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Speaker 5: the right move, right he hold him out of this game.

867
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Speaker 5: Get that shoulder right, because I don't know, if you

868
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 5: watch how he injured it, he heard it throwing the

869
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 5: ball like he had already heard it he came.

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Speaker 2: Back from the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked like he heard it as he was

872
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: throwing that long throw. Like he hurt the left shoulder

873
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: when he was thrown with his right hand.

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Speaker 5: And that's like, as someone that doesn't know anything about

875
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 5: how to handle injuries or health, wouldn't that be the

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00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 5: most alarming thing that this guy is in so much

877
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 5: grueling pain. Just throwing the ball is hurting his opposite shoulder.

878
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 5: The torque of his body is hurting that much. So

879
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 5: I don't think he plays This feels a good Teddy number, right,

880
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 5: They've moved it too much in my opinion.

881
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 2: Like you just said, Teddy's a covering machine.

882
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 5: As he lost a step clearly. I mean that game,

883
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 5: he looked totally lost and people are giving a hard time.

884
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 5: We've talked about it. It's really tough coming into games

885
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 5: ice cold and never taking reps with the one right,

886
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 5: you're not mentally, you're not there and you haven't had.

887
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: The reps either. So the fact that Bucky should be

888
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: back this.

889
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 5: Week with Godwin, when we saw a little bit of

890
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 5: Godwin last week, but he didn't really do much in

891
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 5: that game.

892
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: It was just everything went wrong for the Bucks in

893
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: that game.

894
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: So I feel like you're totally nailing this one, Chad,

895
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 5: Like I said, I was gonna get Simon says, but

896
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 5: I felt like it was a little bit of cheating. But

897
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 5: two and a half, I really want people to grab

898
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 5: that now. I just cannot see it again any lower than this.

899
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 4: No such thing as cheating. That's just good betting, Simon.

900
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: It's true.

901
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 5: I'll just feel terrible if we took it and all

902
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 5: of a sudden, you know, an hour from now, Baker's

903
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 5: out and then line's up to six again.

904
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: It's like, well that helped just me and Chad, no

905
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: one else.

906
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 4: New Orleans at Miami.

907
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: Big move from four and a half to six on

908
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: this for the Dolphins, and now it's back down to

909
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: five and a half. I kind of just want this

910
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: to come back down because I want to bet the Dolphins.

911
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 3: I have done nothing in this game, and I don't

912
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: have strong opinions on it.

913
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 5: Yep, I'll thir Dolphins and a teaser. I'll keep it moving. Well,

914
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 5: we don't have to waste people's time this one.

915
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: I there's a world where.

916
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 5: Of course the Saints can win this one. We all

917
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 5: know Miami is a bad team, but we talk of

918
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 5: the time. You have Miami at home one pm.

919
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: In the sun.

920
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 5: I mean, if they're wearing the whites, the Saints gotta

921
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 5: wear the blacks. I mean, they're gonna be cooked by

922
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter. So we always joke we fade, we

923
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 5: fade to in the right spots. This is the type

924
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 5: of twist spot you back them, So we're both in

925
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 5: the same but we don't we don't really trust it.

926
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 5: We don't want to bent too much into it. But

927
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 5: it does feel like it's a it's a good number here,

928
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 5: five and a half. Anything under six, I'll be on

929
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 5: the Dolphins.

930
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 3: Los Angeles Rams are Carolina Panthers. The Carolina Panthers are

931
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 3: ten point home underdogs. And this started going up after

932
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 3: the rams dominant performance against the Bucks, even you know,

933
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: in that first half, it was starting to move. It's interesting.

934
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: It's the second week in row where the bookmakers are

935
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: showing us how much more they rec back to the

936
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: NFC West than the NFC South. Right, last week, the

937
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: Bucks go into Los Angeles to play the Rams six

938
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: and a half, seven point underdogs. The Panthers go going

939
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 3: to California, going to San Francisco, and they play the

940
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 3: Panthers seven seven and a half point underdogs. Now, all

941
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 3: of a sudden, the Panthers are ten point dogs to

942
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: the Rams in Carolina. So are the bookmakers telling us

943
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: that the Carolina Panthers, who are a five hundred team,

944
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: would be sixteen point underdogs to the Rams in Los Angeles?

945
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: Like this number is massive?

946
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 5: Maybe like a thirteen point dog is what the same?

947
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 5: But I I get where they're coming from. Like, honestly,

948
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 5: I'm betting this this Carolina team, I know. I mean

949
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 5: we both are gonna bet them, like we love this. Yes,

950
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 5: this skills a great matchup in a spot for them

951
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 5: to bounce back. And as great is that Rams team

952
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 5: has looked.

953
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: You could attack that Rams secondary.

954
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 5: That's that's really to me their biggest weakness to the defensively,

955
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 5: Like there are guys in their secondary that are just young,

956
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 5: little green behind the ears, and there's there's ways to

957
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 5: attack it. And coming off his worst performance, it's not shocking,

958
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 5: like who is going to be backing this Panthers team.

959
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 5: So I'm looking forward to hearing all the pros I

960
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 5: talked to how they're feeling about this one. If they're

961
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 5: just avoiding it, if you're you know, like me of

962
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 5: really loving this Panthers team, because you know, if this

963
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 5: was ten and a half of hard Rock, this is

964
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 5: another game where it's like I.

965
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: Could have made this.

966
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 5: Simon says like that felt like way too big of

967
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 5: an overreaction this game.

968
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: My model has that seven.

969
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 5: So I'm got three and a half points of value

970
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 5: on this Panthers team, so really unique spot. And yeah,

971
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 5: we've talked about this Rams team. It's different than teams

972
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 5: of mcveigh's pass back in the day, you know, not

973
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 5: even back in the day, just a year or two ago.

974
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 5: McVeigh is no way covering this number. He does not

975
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 5: play that way. He doesn't play the blowout teams.

976
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 2: Right.

977
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 5: We've seen him a couple of times, a couple of

978
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 5: times this year play against bad teams and just keep

979
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 5: the foot on the guests. Tennessee one really jumps out

980
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 5: where he just really leveled them in the second half. So,

981
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 5: you know, the Seahawks game, he pulled back, he really

982
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 5: didn't do much. The Tampa game, he feels like he

983
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 5: pulled back a little bit once Baker was out of

984
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 5: the game. That offense really didn't do much. So I'm

985
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 5: hoping maybe he gets he's.

986
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: Back to his old ways chat of taking the foot

987
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: off the gas.

988
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 5: And even if we're down twenty four to seven head

989
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 5: into the second half, we have a ten or a

990
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 5: ten and a half point spread here, we were a

991
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 5: touchdown away from covering. So I just feel like it's

992
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 5: way too go of a number. Even you know, he

993
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 5: let us down last night. But they Panthers could have

994
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 5: covered that number in so many different ways they had

995
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 5: the opportunities.

996
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: So it feels like taking the Panthers here is the

997
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: right spot.

998
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 5: We need a lot of things to go against this,

999
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 5: a lot of things to be unlucky about for us

1000
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 5: not to cover this number, so really really inflated number

1001
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 5: on this Ramps team, which again they should be. They're

1002
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 5: the odds on favorite right now. Yeah for odds on favorite,

1003
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 5: MVP favorite. Stafford totally get what the books are doing

1004
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 5: here because this will be in every teaser, every parlay.

1005
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 5: I mean, the Rams are gonna beginning a hamry or

1006
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 5: no one thinks Panthers could pull off an upset. I'm

1007
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 5: gonna have a little money of this Panthers' money line, Chad,

1008
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 5: this feels like a nice spot to take this team

1009
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,959
Speaker 5: here to bounce back.

1010
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 3: Well, look, I'm not gonna lie to yet. I'm thinking

1011
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 3: about a Carolina Cleveland money line.

1012
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: It's gross. I love it. Yeah, down scene odds. I

1013
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: looked it up for.

1014
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when we were talking about the Browns, I

1015
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 3: was thinking, this has money line written all over it.

1016
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know that Browns game We've talked about

1017
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 5: a nauseum. It's just we're simply betting on the defense

1018
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 5: there for people, we're here as much crap.

1019
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: I want to get Panthers defense. I think they showed

1020
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: up last night. We have a good team. The Panthers

1021
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: are not as bad as people keep making them out

1022
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: to be. They are up and down.

1023
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 5: I will give people that, but this is like an

1024
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 5: egregious number. So those two two of my lines together

1025
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 5: Chad basically nineteen to one.

1026
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: That's a nice payout.

1027
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: The one thing that worries me about this Panthers team

1028
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 3: is look, j C. Horn left the game last night

1029
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 3: puking potential concussion. One of their defensive at Juwan Jennings

1030
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: and the nuts. Who knows if he's going to be.

1031
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 4: Suspended or.

1032
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: I don't think about that.

1033
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 3: So there are some concerns here in the backfield that

1034
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: make me a little bit anxious against DeVante Adams and

1035
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: Puku Nakua and you know, eight different tight ends you know,

1036
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: running across the middle.

1037
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 4: So there are some fears, that's true.

1038
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: You know where there aren't fears Simon the Atlanta Falcons

1039
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 3: at the New York Jets. The New York Jets are

1040
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 3: currently two and a half point underdogs, and the New

1041
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: York Jets will be our brass balls better the week.

1042
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: You know what it takes, it takes brass balls.

1043
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: We agreed on this one from the get go. The

1044
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: Jets were just in a street fight with the Ravens.

1045
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: But if you look at that game, they did hold

1046
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: their own.

1047
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: Like the.

1048
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 3: Drive charts in that game is so they are so ugly,

1049
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: punt punt, punt downs, punt downs, punt fumble, punt interception

1050
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: like this was a closer game than the score would indicate.

1051
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 3: The public is going to come in on Atlanta. They're

1052
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: going to be all over Kirk Cousins because of what

1053
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 3: they did against the Saints.

1054
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 4: It was hard not to be.

1055
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say impressed with the Jets against

1056
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: the Ravens, but they were competitive. More total yards, more

1057
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: passing yards, more white yards per years per attempt. The

1058
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: team is just different with Tyrod Taylor at quarterback, who

1059
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 3: is much more comfortable throwing downfield and much more accurate.

1060
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: So I'm fine with the Jets at two and a half.

1061
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: My only disappointment I wouldn't even say hesitation, is I

1062
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: could see this number getting to three and we can't

1063
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 3: give it out at three because it's two and a

1064
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 3: half today and that's when we're doing the show.

1065
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 5: And when with a tour board. Taylor, he's a covering machine.

1066
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 5: But he did only score ten points in that game.

1067
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 5: So I mean, justin fields, Taylor, we don't really care, honestly,

1068
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 5: but I think we're both in agreement. This is really

1069
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 5: about kind of what we had last week, where you know,

1070
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 5: I was able to get us off of it because

1071
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 5: I just I respected the money coming to Atlanta, but

1072
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 5: it was about the Shuck. I just kept sitting there

1073
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 5: being like, damn, me and Chat are backing Shucks a

1074
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 5: favorite here, Like am I are we lost in the

1075
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 5: woods here?

1076
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: And it did feel like that way as soon as

1077
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: that game started.

1078
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 5: I don't know if they had a stupid fumbler or

1079
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 5: something happened wasn't even Shuck's fault, but it was just like,

1080
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 5: oh man, this saint's in those games. Everything's gonna go

1081
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 5: wrong for them, and it really did. And you know,

1082
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 5: props to Kirk. Kirk did play really well. Kirk is

1083
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 5: now a two and a half point favorite on the road.

1084
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: That to me is right there.

1085
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 5: I should jump out to everybody, this is a huge

1086
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 5: mistake through backing this Atlanta team where when you really

1087
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 5: break it down, okay, Kirk might be able to get

1088
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 5: his and move the ball here, the Jets want to

1089
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 5: run the ball.

1090
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 2: Atlanta might have one of the.

1091
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 5: Worst run defenses in football, honestly, Like they are so

1092
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 5: bad against the run, and they got lucky last week.

1093
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 5: Kamara got banged out, got knocked out that game really

1094
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 5: early on, and that kind of really moved the way

1095
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 5: from the run game of the Saints, right they were

1096
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 5: like trying to run Taysom Hill and do stuff like that.

1097
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 5: It just was not clicking where you know, Brisall, He's

1098
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 5: been great all season and I love this matchup for him,

1099
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 5: so it fields back if it's Taylor, I like both

1100
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 5: of them.

1101
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: Obviously. My view of Taylor is he's a covering machine.

1102
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: You go through his date.

1103
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 5: I think he's now covered six straight games he started

1104
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 5: and finished Taylor, so he's been great as a backup

1105
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 5: coming and covering games in the public continues undervalue him.

1106
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 5: So I do agree with you that part. It probably

1107
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 5: is a better thing to have Taylor. He's just more

1108
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 5: consistent and safer. But I also love the upside with

1109
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 5: the fields and the run game against this this Stlanta team,

1110
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 5: like their linebackers one to one with fields, they will

1111
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 5: lose that battle every time. Same with Brisal, like they

1112
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 5: just do not have the guys with the wheels to

1113
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 5: stand up against those two type of athletes. So yeah,

1114
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 5: we both love this one coming into it. Our only

1115
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 5: hesitation is, well, let's get the three. Like that was

1116
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 5: the only thing we worried about is we don't want

1117
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 5: to give out you guys a bad line here. But

1118
00:49:58,520 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 5: I think the pros will be all over this one.

1119
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 5: I could easily see this game getting down a one

1120
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 5: and a half pick by kickoff comes Sunday, So I

1121
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 5: love this one. I could easy to see this being

1122
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 5: our cont disc comes Sunday as well.

1123
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 3: Maybe we're doing a Cleveland Carolina Jets money line parlay.

1124
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 4: Maybe that's maybe we're just all over the money lines.

1125
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: Guess this week, let's just be gross, let's get, let's give.

1126
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 3: Thanks for the opportunity, bet tyrad Taylor and Chador Sanders

1127
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 3: and Bryce Young, You're not wrong about the Saints last week,

1128
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 3: Like the Falcons.

1129
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 4: All the flowers for Kirk, right.

1130
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: But but the Saints had two missfield goals and turn

1131
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 3: the ball over on downs on the Falcons one yard line.

1132
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: So it's not like that game, and it was ugly

1133
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 3: for us, and it never felt like we were in it,

1134
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: but we really weren't ever out of it until the

1135
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: very end when the Falcons got that game securing touchdown

1136
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: and ended up winning, you know, twenty four.

1137
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 4: To six or whatever.

1138
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: But like, that's a that's a game that the public

1139
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 3: didn't really watch. They just see Kirk Cousins coming back

1140
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 3: and winning by eighteen points and all of a sudden

1141
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: their two and a half point favorites on the road

1142
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 3: against the Jets. So that's a game we're definitely going

1143
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: to be betting for sure. Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tennessee is a

1144
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 3: six and a half point hundred up. Let's do ourselves

1145
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: a favor. Let's skip it because we cannot get it

1146
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: right with this Titans team.

1147
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 5: No, but like our hate for Trevor Lawrence goes further

1148
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 5: than that, So we'll be with I'm assuming you'll be

1149
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 5: on it with me.

1150
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: I'll be on Tennessee.

1151
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 5: But liked just said, God happy to avoid it, but yeah,

1152
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 5: I hate this Tennessee team so much, so we're backing

1153
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 5: on a Tennessee team here with a back door, but

1154
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 5: I also feel like it's a game Tennessee could win.

1155
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: I just can't get over how bat TREVORL.

1156
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 5: Lwrence is Like I went back and rewatched that Cards

1157
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 5: game so bad due to cover it.

1158
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: It's just so sickening to me. He is horrible.

1159
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 5: He is horrible, and in this matchup you've seen those

1160
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 5: last couple weeks. Jeffrey Simmons coming in the run defense

1161
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,479
Speaker 5: has improved so much for Tennessee since he's been back.

1162
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 5: So yeah, Tennessee is terrible. We hate him, but ain't

1163
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 5: no way. I betting Jags a minus six and a

1164
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 5: half play favor on the road. So, like you said,

1165
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 5: I just will avoid it. We want to discuss it again,

1166
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 5: thank God for the rest of the week, but in

1167
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 5: my pickpools and everything like that, I will be on Tennessee.

1168
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 3: Tennessee part of the money line parlay. Cam Ward Shawdor Sanders,

1169
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: Bryce Young, Tyrov Taylor. We're putting them all in a

1170
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 3: money line parlay and we're gonna give thanks. I can

1171
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 3: at least quarterback.

1172
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 4: I can, by the way, can't you?

1173
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: I can? No, It's it makes sense.

1174
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: It totally makes sense. I actually don't know that I've

1175
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 3: had this much clarity on anything the entire season. I'm

1176
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: so ready.

1177
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: Even if we go two and two, that's a great hit.

1178
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 3: I love watching how angry Liam Cohne gets on the

1179
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 3: sideline watching Trevor Lawrence, like I feel like I know

1180
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 3: exactly what is in his head, and he's trying to

1181
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 3: manage his frustrations with a child who does not learn

1182
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 3: any of the lessons that you try to teach them

1183
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:12,959
Speaker 3: every single day.

1184
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: He just doesn't learn from his mistakes. It's so bizarre.

1185
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 5: It's like the number one thing with humans, the reason

1186
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 5: we've survived for two.

1187
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: Million years, every long we did here is we learn

1188
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: from the mistakes.

1189
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 5: You make a mistake, and you do your best not

1190
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 5: to keep making that same mistake. His regression, like we've

1191
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 5: talked about, his regression, has been alarming these last three years.

1192
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: It's just crazy.

1193
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 5: And we made excuses for him, we did, all of

1194
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 5: us did. We're like, well, it's the injuries, right, it's

1195
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 5: the coaching around them, all this stuff, and it's like

1196
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 5: this year you could be like, well, his number one,

1197
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 5: number two receivers are out.

1198
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: That could be part of it. Dude. These picks are egregious,

1199
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: just horrible, horrible reads and throws right to the defender's

1200
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: just just no excuses. So I like we've said, I

1201
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: don't want to keep going how much I am down

1202
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: on her Lawrence. Everyone's down on them, but I think

1203
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: they have like three or four years left.

1204
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 5: Of all guaranteed like forty million dollars per year type

1205
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 5: of deal with the Jags.

1206
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: Just terrible, terrible decision paying this man all that money.

1207
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 3: Listen, everyone's down on him, but I think we were

1208
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 3: down on him first. I can guarantee, like we started talking.

1209
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 5: About that last year, we were both swarm off. Yes,

1210
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 5: you drag a little bit, Qulie. I will say you

1211
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 5: took down to win this division. I think a fair

1212
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 5: fact of you trusted the coach, not Tuval Yo. So

1213
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 5: that's where I'll give you the grace of, like, well,

1214
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 5: your read's not terrible, you trusted the coach.

1215
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: No one's trusting Trevor Lawrence. He is just a train.

1216
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 4: Wreck, total train wreck. It's going to be fun to

1217
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 4: see how they figure out what to do with him.

1218
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: Speaking of quarterbacking train wrecks, Simon Minnesota at Seattle. Seattle

1219
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: is a ten point favorite the cumulative stats this week,

1220
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 3: and the piling on about JJ McCarthy and how poorly

1221
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 3: he's playing has really become kind of mean spirited, right,

1222
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 3: They're just piling up. One stat I saw noted that

1223
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 3: he would have had a better QB rating this past

1224
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: week against the Packers if he had downed the ball

1225
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 3: on purpose every single time instead of what he actually

1226
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 3: did in the game. He has last in the league

1227
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: in just about every category. There are some stats going

1228
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: around about his historically bad start being putting him as

1229
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: sort of the worst quarterback start in a decade. And

1230
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: then he mysteriously popped up in the concussion protocol on Monday,

1231
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 3: which means that Max Brosmer, an undrafted free agent from

1232
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: Minnesota by way of New Hampshire, is going to.

1233
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 4: Be getting first team reps. I want to see if

1234
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 4: I can convince.

1235
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 3: You at some point this week to bet on the

1236
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings Minnesota Vikings at plus ten, plus ten and

1237
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 3: a half against this Seattle team, because this Vikings defense

1238
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 3: is exactly what gives Sam Donald the biggest problems.

1239
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right.

1240
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 5: I'm probably missing on this game. I'm just I honestly

1241
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 5: don't want to invest in this game either side. If

1242
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 5: I'm being honest, I might end up having some money

1243
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 5: on Seattle.

1244
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll get there eventually.

1245
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 5: But this Vikings team could improve with this kid coming

1246
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 5: as a quarterback, But from everything I've seen or read,

1247
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's gonna be that much better.

1248
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: Buddy. Honestly, like they just they put themselves in such

1249
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 2: a horrible embarrassing they have.

1250
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 5: You know, you let Daniel Jones, you let Sam Donald

1251
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 5: walk out that door last year, and I think me

1252
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 5: and you were in the same page where you know

1253
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 5: you you more so you respect koc Way more than

1254
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 5: I do that you do where I am still like

1255
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 5: this guy is good, but he is not this McVeigh

1256
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 5: shanahan type that people make him out to be. I

1257
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 5: still put him a ring below. I put him in

1258
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 5: the Sirianni level where I have questions about this guy

1259
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 5: and some of the things he does.

1260
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 2: This to me is on him. You know.

1261
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 5: For a fact, after the Coach of the Year last year,

1262
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 5: the ownership came to them and said, who do you

1263
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 5: want to pay Sam.

1264
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 2: Or do you believe in JJ?

1265
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 5: He said, I believe in nine nine and this guy,

1266
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 5: I mean, we had we had a guy on our show.

1267
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 5: He's a man Metell guy. I don't know if his

1268
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 5: name was thor or something like. He's a Twitter personality.

1269
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, hereat he is.

1270
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 5: He's someone who's been all in on JJ. And I

1271
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 5: just every time this guy does something terrible, I think

1272
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 5: of him and where it's like, this is the hardest

1273
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 5: part about being a fan, where you have blind love

1274
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 5: and you know, hope for your quarterback of the future.

1275
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 5: And I would love to know if even he is

1276
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 5: given up yet because to me, like again, most of times,

1277
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give a guy a year or two to

1278
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 5: figure it out. JJ, like Chad say, has been so

1279
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 5: historically bad to me, he is deader than dead. He

1280
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 5: if you look at his numbers compared to Jermarcus Russell, yes,

1281
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 5: the biggest bust in all football history, he is worse

1282
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 5: per play than Jermarcus Russell, a guy who did not

1283
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 5: watch tape, didn't watch tape that JJ's worse than him.

1284
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: So you know, pros got sucked into it. Before the year.

1285
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 5: Professionals talked about, like, you know, coming to the season,

1286
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 5: how much I loved JJ.

1287
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: This Vikings team was a sleeper team to them.

1288
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 5: You know, I think I even made a bet on

1289
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 5: JJ to win MVP at like eighty to one because

1290
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 5: I had some pros in my ears telling me I

1291
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 5: didn't know how good this kid's gonna be, and how

1292
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 5: I gotta trust koc Just an absolute train are here, Chad,

1293
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 5: So I get what you're doing here.

1294
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: You're banking. You're not betting on the offense.

1295
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 5: You're betting on the Vikings defense that pracked against Sam Donald.

1296
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 5: They know Sam Donald's Tennessee. They should have an advantage here.

1297
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 5: I just I think you're Reda is right. You're buying

1298
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 5: low as well.

1299
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: In this Svikings team. I just can't get there.

1300
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 5: I mean, my god, that if you can't convert a

1301
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 5: third and five, how are you going to stay competitive

1302
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 5: in a game.

1303
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: So I don't know if I.

1304
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 5: Can trust a kid to convert third and fives against

1305
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 5: a Seattle defense that they're really good. They got they

1306
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 5: didn't cover last week because they played, you know, a

1307
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 5: really shell defense covered two to end that fourth quarter,

1308
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 5: and anytime cam Warden needed to pick up first down,

1309
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 5: he uses legs.

1310
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: That was to me the reason that game switched.

1311
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 5: So if this Vikings kid, it's coming in and uses

1312
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 5: legs and pick up first towns. That way, there is

1313
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 5: a way for you to cover this number. So I

1314
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 5: don't hate the idea chat. I just all the unknowns here.

1315
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 5: I can't back the Vikings with you here, but I

1316
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 5: do get your read I like where you're coming from.

1317
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 4: Listen.

1318
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about Max Brosmer except what I

1319
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 3: read on Wikipedia that he went to New Hampshire and

1320
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: then went to Minnesota.

1321
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 4: I can't tell you.

1322
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 3: All I can tell you is that Sam Donald when

1323
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 3: he's getting pressure, and we've seen it with the Rams,

1324
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: specifically once against the Vikings and once against the Seahawks,

1325
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 3: that's when he struggles the most. And they have been

1326
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 3: prone to turnovers this year, and their running game hasn't been.

1327
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 4: As good as they would like it to be.

1328
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 3: So it's very likely that the game could be put

1329
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 3: in Sam Donald's hands. And I'm not saying he isn't

1330
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 3: a worthy quarterback who can win games for you and

1331
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 3: is going to put this team in a position to

1332
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: be a Super Bowl contender again this year like you

1333
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: did with the.

1334
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 4: Vikings last year.

1335
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 3: But that's just a huge, huge number against a quarterback

1336
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 3: who nobody has seen. Can they score fourteen freaky points

1337
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: in the first quarter? Can it get hard for the

1338
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 3: Vikings to for the Seahawks to get to twenty eight

1339
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 3: after that? Like it could be a competitive game. And

1340
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 3: this Vikings defense is good, Like it's not a bad defense.

1341
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 5: So yeah, like again we forget it because there's one

1342
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 5: three weeks ago, but JJ went to Detroit and one

1343
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 5: seven to twenty four. Like this Vikings team can right

1344
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 5: at the one games with despite having nothing that quarterback.

1345
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 2: But man, it is you need a lot of things

1346
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: to go your.

1347
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 4: Well, it is weird for JJ.

1348
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: I don't know how he comes back from all this,

1349
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 3: you know, and who knows if he's in the concussion

1350
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 3: protocol because they're like, we got to find a way

1351
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 3: to get this guy off the field, Like he's struggling

1352
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 3: right now and he might not be able to come

1353
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,959
Speaker 3: back from this. I started having visions of, Oh my god,

1354
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 3: is this a Trey Lance brought party situation? Like if

1355
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: Max Brosmer comes in and he's amazing for the next

1356
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 3: two weeks, all of a sudden, is JJ McCarthy on

1357
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 3: the outs.

1358
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 5: This ends It's gonna be JJ brus our guy Mac

1359
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 5: Jones next August in camp.

1360
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're.

1361
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 5: Going to bring in they're going to bring in someone

1362
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 5: like exactly like that and see if JJ can't beat

1363
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 5: him out, give that guy the job. I just I mean,

1364
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 5: we're we're upset about I can't imagine the front office

1365
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 5: in KOC right now just staring in the mirror being

1366
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 5: like we had, we had the guy, we let him

1367
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 5: go for this, Like, yeah, train wreck?

1368
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 4: Interesting Max, Jim mac Jones, that's interesting.

1369
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 7: Uh.

1370
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 3: Las Vegas at the Los Angeles Charges and Chargers are

1371
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 3: nine and a half point favorites.

1372
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 4: Chip Kelly he is out. Uh doesn't make a difference.

1373
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 4: I don't know. Do I want to bet this game? No? Thanks?

1374
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? Same?

1375
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 5: I like I want to be on the I want

1376
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 5: to be on the Raiders, but I'm not going to

1377
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 5: force them. There's tens out there if you want to

1378
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 5: grab it. But yeah, this is not going to be

1379
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 5: even close to one of my top ten bets this week.

1380
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 5: It's just happy to avoid this one and just not

1381
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 5: watch a second of it.

1382
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 3: Buffalo at Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is a three and a half

1383
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 3: point underdog. Right now, I'm just trying to figure out

1384
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 3: what the Steelers are good at. Their defense is kind

1385
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 3: of suspect. Their passing game is inconsistent. There are people

1386
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh who are losing it about Mike Tomlin right now,

1387
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 3: wondering if he has passed his prime. Both teams need

1388
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: this game desperately for any kind of playoff positioning. I

1389
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 3: want to bet the Steelers because they're home dogs of

1390
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 3: more than a field goal, and this is kind of

1391
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 3: when you got to do it. But I don't want

1392
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 3: to bet the Steelers.

1393
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 2: No, it's a game that we have to bet. Chad,

1394
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: you just said it, though.

1395
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 5: It's you're getting an undervaled Steelers team against a billsting

1396
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 5: that's still to me being overvalued by the public.

1397
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: Like that. That defense.

1398
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 5: They have some weeks where they do show up, like

1399
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 5: that Chiefs game, it felt like they showed up and

1400
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 5: they were playing fast and hard and they were good

1401
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 5: against the run. And then you see a game like

1402
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 5: they had last week where it's like they can't stop

1403
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 5: anybody and Josh Allen struggling as well. Like they made

1404
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 5: Houston and David Mills look like a legit tender, Like

1405
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 5: they looked like they were the better.

1406
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 2: Team than this Bills team.

1407
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 5: So I honestly wanted to be on the Bills. I

1408
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 5: was like Okay, this will be a nice bounce back spot.

1409
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 5: Maybe we'll get the Bills minus one and a half

1410
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 5: minus two and a half. Favorite they opened to like

1411
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 5: three and a half forward a lot of books, so

1412
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 5: you know, pretty shocking they opened the number where they did.

1413
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 5: It's a ton of respect to just how great josh

1414
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 5: Allen is, but he's just been all inconsistent all year

1415
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 5: and losing games you shouldn't lose all year, and it's

1416
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,919
Speaker 5: like it's just like the Chiefs and we talked about

1417
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 5: that's why this year has been so fun. It's not

1418
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 5: the same old teams were used to because we talk

1419
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 5: all the time. If you don't draft well, it eventually

1420
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 5: catches up to the Spills team. They've organization enough that

1421
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 5: they've wasted josh Awn's career, but they've never addressed the defense.

1422
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 5: They never went out and got him the number one.

1423
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 5: I mean, Coleman, you know, we took a ton of

1424
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 5: shit because I was talking about Stevens Stephen Steven Smith

1425
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 5: said he wasn't a starting receiver in this league.

1426
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: You know, this is what two weeks.

1427
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 5: They've sat him now because he's so immature and they

1428
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 5: can't trust him to block.

1429
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 2: And do things they need him to do consistently downfield.

1430
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 5: And I, like I said, I wanted to be on

1431
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 5: this Spills team, but something just feels off.

1432
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 2: They had that horrible loss to Atlanta. You know, they

1433
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 2: had the bye week.

1434
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 5: They bounced back, right, they they dominated the Panthers, they

1435
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 5: beat the Chiefs, huge win, but then they dropped that

1436
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 5: embarrassing game to the Miami and then they come back

1437
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 5: and have a huge dominant win again against Tampa that

1438
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 5: we talked about Tampa, if they didn't go three and out,

1439
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 5: probably should have covered, kept that game on much closer.

1440
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 5: It just josh Allen had that next hold in the

1441
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 5: fourth quarter the week the FI week, Josh Allen couldn't

1442
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 5: do what he had done the week before, right, He

1443
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:03,959
Speaker 5: couldn't be that hero in the fourth quarter.

1444
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: So this feels like another number.

1445
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 5: Where the books are saying he's gonna cover you, He's

1446
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 5: gonna get that late cover, and the public is drinking it.

1447
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 2: They're coming in so heavy on this Pills team. This

1448
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 2: is the exact Spy we do back.

1449
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 5: Tomlin and the Steelers team, and like you said, we

1450
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 5: don't trust them. Their defense seems off. I do think

1451
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 5: josh Alla could get his but I think offensively, with

1452
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 5: gain well and hopefully Dkay is healthy in this matchup,

1453
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 5: I think they'll be able to move the ball to

1454
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 5: Steelers team, even if it is Mason Rudolph, who you

1455
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 5: know can't throw the ball at more than twenty yards

1456
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 5: downfield or it doesn't have the confidence to do it.

1457
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: He still moved the ball semi.

1458
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 5: Against that Bears team in different ways where they schemed

1459
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 5: it up to get guys open. So it's it's not

1460
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 5: a game I'm banging on the table right now. Maybe

1461
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 5: comes Sunday morning, I'll be more confident it just because

1462
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 5: I know it's Rogers and not Mason Rudolph. But it

1463
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 5: feels like we're just back in the number here in

1464
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 5: Tom and we're trusting a spot with Tomlin here at

1465
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 5: three and a half and fading the Bills team. That

1466
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 5: just doesn't feel like to me, they deserve to have

1467
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 5: a three and a half hook. They just they're so bad,

1468
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 5: They're just it's been so bad defensive this year and

1469
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 5: they've just asking Josh Allen to do so much with

1470
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 5: no name receivers. I mean, I just can't get over

1471
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 5: the fact they failed them like this, Like, how do

1472
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 5: you not go get them at number one.

1473
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: They just it's male practice.

1474
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 5: It really is like you're just wasting years of well

1475
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 5: we keep every year we talk about he's a top two,

1476
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 5: top three, number one quarterback in this league, and he

1477
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 5: just feels that they're wasting it. They're just wasting it.

1478
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 5: So people can hear my voice, I don't want to

1479
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 5: be on the Steelers team, but it feels like I

1480
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 5: have to. I have to take this number year and

1481
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 5: fade the public and all their love on this Bills team.

1482
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 5: It's just way too much numbering. I'm looking now, Chad,

1483
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 5: there were fours when we started the show. They've all

1484
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 5: come down. There's one four out there still in my area,

1485
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 5: but most books are moving back to three and a half.

1486
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 5: So some early professional money are on the Steelers side.

1487
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 3: All right, wouldn't have been great if Miles Garrett and

1488
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 3: Josh Allen could have been on the same team, the

1489
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 3: all wasted talent team with Josh Allen and Miles Garrett.

1490
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 4: We should have figured that one out.

1491
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 3: Let's talk out the prime time games, our prime time spotlight.

1492
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 4: We all know people are going.

1493
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 3: To figure out a way to bet him first one

1494
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 3: up Denver six and a half, point favorite at the

1495
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 3: Washington Commanders. Tricky one to really handicap on a Tuesday

1496
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 3: of Thanksgiving week, five six days before the game, because

1497
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 3: we just don't know about Jayden Daniels and there's rumors

1498
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 3: that he might be able to play. He's inching back

1499
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 3: being a little bit more healthy. We don't know for sure.

1500
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 3: Hard to have, honestly, it's just hard to have an

1501
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 3: opinion on this game right now.

1502
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 2: That's fair.

1503
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 5: I'll be on Washington, but it is hard to have

1504
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 5: an opinion on it. Obviously, Washington's biggest weaknesses by far

1505
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 5: their defense.

1506
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: They're just terrible.

1507
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 5: You think Sean Payton will just have a field day here,

1508
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 5: like this is such a dream match for him, scheme wise,

1509
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 5: so many ways to attack this defense if he chooses to.

1510
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 5: And you know, if it's Daniels, that's why I'm bending now.

1511
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 5: If it is Daniels, I could see it move another

1512
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 5: two or three points. It could come down a little

1513
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 5: bit more. So I'll back Washington earlier. But like Chat said,

1514
01:07:58,760 --> 01:07:59,959
Speaker 5: I'm in no rush about this one.

1515
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: The crowded fight it friends about for Monday Night.

1516
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 3: The New York Giants resurgent competitive for two weeks in

1517
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 3: a row with Jamis Winston. New York Giants, took the

1518
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 3: Packers down to the wire, took the Lions into overtime,

1519
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 3: lost both games dramatically. Now they're visiting the New England

1520
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 3: Patriots there seven and a half point underdogs Monday Night Football.

1521
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 3: We don't know at this point if it's going to

1522
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Speaker 3: be Jamis or Jackson Dart. My feeling is it's going

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01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 3: to be Jackson Dart. He did practice last week, he

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01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 3: traveled with the team. That indicates to me that he's

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01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 3: probably going to be ready to go. I think the

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Speaker 3: real issue here, Simon is who's playing on the left

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Speaker 3: side of the offensive line for the New England Patriots,

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Speaker 3: Because they had players just being carted off on Sunday

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01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 3: in that game that they barely covered against the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: So I know where I'm going to lead in this game.

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01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 3: Do you want to say it? Do you want me

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01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 3: to say it? Do we want to be discussing together?

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01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 3: Do you want to say it? In the count of three?

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Speaker 3: One two, three?

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01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 2: Giants Giants, Giants, Giants, Giants.

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01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 4: You weren't with me on that we weren't coordinating, well.

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01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 5: Zoom, it sinks us out. I thought if we say

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01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 5: at the same time, but yeah, I love the Giants

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01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 5: as well. We talked before the show. We almost almost

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01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 5: made in my Simon says, you almost.

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01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 2: Made a chutchchice.

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Speaker 5: It's really about this defensive line for the Giants against

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01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 5: what we are presuming now is gonna be their backup

1544
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 5: left tackle and their backup left guard, which is a

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01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 5: huge deal.

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 2: That was honestly their biggest strength.

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01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 5: I felt like when I was really looking at the

1548
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 5: run scheme board, a lot of their big runs and

1549
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 5: gains are to that side and pass blocking wise, same thing.

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01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 5: It's a side where they can leave one on one

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01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 5: matchups where they usually chip to the right side, either

1552
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 5: were the tight end or the running back.

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01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 2: Now, what are they gonna do? Right, they're gonna do?

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01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 5: Are they're gonna do more twelve personnel to try to

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01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 5: protect from me? Because this is a terrible match for them. Right,

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01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 5: they have two different guys on the defense line of

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01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 5: the Giants that may can't use athleticism against them. Right,

1558
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 5: Burns will be able to catch them. Carter will be

1559
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 5: able to catch them like they're they're justice and just

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01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 5: as fast as him. So this nine at hard Rocking

1561
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 5: Jersey is already down to seven. So since we started

1562
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 5: the show, this line has moved a couple other sevens

1563
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 5: popping up people. If you hear this, go grab it,

1564
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 5: go grab the Giants team. I think this will keep

1565
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 5: coming down if Dark gets cleared. I could see this

1566
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 5: going below six. Like that's how big of an upgrade

1567
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 5: he is. Offensively, as much as we love Winston, they're

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01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 5: running aspect with Dart is a game changer right the

1569
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 5: way they can use his legs and you see with

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01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 5: Kafka give them tons of credit. He's really schemed up

1571
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 5: a great offense here these last couple weeks since he's

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01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 5: taken over, right, Like they just feel like they're always

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01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 5: kind of keeping teams on their toes and throwing them

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01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 5: off fence.

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01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,839
Speaker 2: So, you know, as much as I wanted.

1576
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 5: To be scared off of this Oneku, I feel like

1577
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 5: we're buying high on Jamis. It's really not appearing that way.

1578
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 5: Like the money is from the public coming in on

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01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 5: this Patriots team. They're still believing this Patriots team where

1580
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 5: I think me and you are in a greens they're

1581
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 5: overlooking how big of a deal it is losing two

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01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 5: keys our restofensive line with a young quarterback here, so you.

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01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 2: Know, really fun game. I could see yes end up getting.

1584
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 5: It as one of our five, especially come Sunday if

1585
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 5: we know it's start, we do get a seven and

1586
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 5: a half in contest. I just love this number so much,

1587
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 5: so yeah, hopefully people hear this too. Of the bills

1588
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 5: public books, I know hard Rock's gone, but two very

1589
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 5: public books still have seven and a half's out there,

1590
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 5: so I hope people can get that before it goes away.

1591
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 3: Right now, we are looking at Philadelphia minus six and

1592
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 3: a half for Sunday morning conversation. Don't forget, Simon says,

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01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 3: is Philadelphia. I think, I think.

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01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I should say from the top, Chow, I don't

1595
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 2: cut you off. We'll tweet out if anything.

1596
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 5: On Thursday, If Wednesday tomorrow Chat reaches out to me

1597
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 5: or I reach out to and week, we say we

1598
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 5: really like our line, and we will put in the contest.

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01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 2: Maybe since he gets in there.

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01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 5: Because if it is Joe Burrow and Lamar's a practice

1601
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 5: all week and we're getting seven and a half or

1602
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 5: six and a half, I don't know about you, Chat,

1603
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 5: I'll be very tempted to take Sincy and same goes

1604
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 5: to Cowboys Cowboys three and a half. I'll be very

1605
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 5: tempted to take that as well, so I will all

1606
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 5: I promise post anything, no shady business. We will let

1607
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 5: people know, hopefully twenty four hours before ahead of time,

1608
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 5: if we do seven on a Thursday game.

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01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 3: We are a transparent, literate podcast. That's what we do.

1610
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 3: We talked about Indie minus four. I don't know if

1611
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 3: we'll get there on that.

1612
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, clearly too much.

1613
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 3: Cleveland plus five and a half was Chad's choice. I

1614
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 3: think we love it. We're going to play that on

1615
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 3: the money line as well. Box minus two and a

1616
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 3: half is definitely going to be in the conversation. Uh,

1617
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 3: Carolina plus ten, it's going to be hard not.

1618
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 4: To have that in the conversation.

1619
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 3: Uh, the New York Jets plus two and a half,

1620
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 3: that is brass balls. That will one hundred percent be

1621
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:41,839
Speaker 3: in the conversation. Pittsburgh plus three and a half maybe,

1622
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 3: and the New York Football Giants plus seven and a half,

1623
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 3: go and grab it. We know we'll want to have

1624
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 3: that in the conversation. Don't forget. We will be back

1625
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 3: on Sunday, not Thursday. Sunday when we'll go over the moneyline.

1626
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 3: Parlays we're doing for favorites and dogs. We'll do our

1627
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 3: Rock and a Heart place bet of the week, We'll

1628
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 3: do the biggest bets. We'll do an abbreviated Sharp calls,

1629
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 3: just so we can get it all out of our system. Also,

1630
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 3: we will be bringing the contest back. It's going to

1631
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:17,799
Speaker 3: start Week fourteen. If you want to sign up right now,

1632
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 3: go do it. It's going to be a free pick

1633
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 3: them contest that will run until the end of the

1634
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 3: football season, including the playoffs. We're going to get nine

1635
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 3: weeks five bets a week against the spread. As we

1636
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 3: get into the playoffs, we'll adjust and figure out what

1637
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 3: the other bets are going to be. We're all going

1638
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 3: to be betting from the same lines. We're going to

1639
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 3: compete against me and Simon for fantastic prizes from our

1640
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 3: sponsors at hard Rock Bet.

1641
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 4: We're super excited to bring it back.

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01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:56,560
Speaker 3: Sharp or Square dot The Volume dot com is the website.

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01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 3: We'll have all the details as well on next Tuesdays show.

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Speaker 3: Watch or listen to us on YouTube at Sharper Square.

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Speaker 4: I love you.

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01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 7: It's nice to get together with the families. But in

1651
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 7: the time when it seems fashionable to be critical of

1652
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,759
Speaker 7: those things we don't have and to be angry at everything,

1653
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 7: it might be nice to step back and look at

1654
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 7: the things that we do have, the good things we

1655
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 7: share in life, and to be thankful for just a

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01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 7: moment

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Speaker 2: For those nicely said