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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode,

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about a woman who found a

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Speaker 2: very unlikely foreign body inside of our ice cream and

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Speaker 2: the long term complications she suffered from a mom who

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Speaker 2: did the unthinkable. Well, I don't want to say unthinkable,

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Speaker 2: because I'm sure any parent that experienced their child getting

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Speaker 2: bullied at least thought of really bad things to do

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Speaker 2: to the kid that was bullying them, but didn't actually

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Speaker 2: carry through with it. So we'll talk about that weird thing,

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Speaker 2: and then we're going to talk about a mom who

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Speaker 2: was cleared of murder after killing a man who she

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Speaker 2: knew was raping her child. We'll finish up with the

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Speaker 2: dangers of sunlight wi a car and a new study

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Speaker 2: that says that there is yet another benefit to mail masturbation.

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Speaker 2: But don't worry, ladies, this one kind of applies to

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Speaker 2: you too if you're trying to have children. So all

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Speaker 2: that and more on today's episode.

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Speaker 3: All right, So, a woman has won a fourteen million

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Speaker 3: dollar settlement after eating ice cream contaminated with nails that

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Speaker 3: left her unable to have children.

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Speaker 2: So this is the story. She got butter pecan ice

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Speaker 2: cream from this place called Brewsters ice Cream Shop. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's a chain or if it's a

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Speaker 2: family owned place. There's none of them around here, but

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Speaker 2: it could be a chain. Still. So she gets this

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Speaker 2: and then her son asked for some and she split

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Speaker 2: that there was a naw like a now that you

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Speaker 2: would put in your wall, embedded in the ice cream cone,

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Speaker 2: and was just like, that's weird. What is that? Did

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Speaker 2: I eat any of that? She was kind of freaking

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Speaker 3: Yet she did notice on her first bite that something

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Speaker 3: seemed a little weird about the bite, but she thought

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Speaker 3: it was just an extra large pecan. I don't think, yeah,

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Speaker 3: anybody's thinking it's a nail.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's thinking that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, she looks in this cone and there's like

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So she they saw that on imaging the nail,

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Speaker 2: and then there were other metal shards in there as well.

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Speaker 2: And I really I don't know if you got this

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Speaker 2: I guess it could have came from the machine where

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Speaker 2: but usually there wouldn't ben in a machine like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, I agree with that. It almost seems like

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Speaker 3: it was intentional at some layer in the process, either

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Speaker 3: no longer able to have any more children. She did

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Speaker 3: So she and her husband initially when they filed the lawsuit,

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Speaker 2: How insane this is. I guess this is the thing

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Speaker 2: like when I go through this whole case, because I'm

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Speaker 2: She somehow got a clot in that vein, which could

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Speaker 2: have kids anymore. But it was probably a lifestyle thing,

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Speaker 2: like every month I have like blood pouring out of me.

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Speaker 2: You could even get complications from that too, anemia, all

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Speaker 2: But they probably said to her, you could get this done,

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the fact that this all stemmed from her

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: I understand where the jury came from.

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Speaker 2: And it's and if they've considered if they thought that

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Speaker 2: It's it's apps hell, it's like one time I was

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Speaker 2: if it was from I don't know, like like a

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Speaker 2: and I sent it to them in the mouth because like,

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Speaker 2: I don't want it to happen to anyone else, but

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Speaker 2: not going to make a big deal out of it, right,

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Speaker 2: Like they sent me couponts for some more free young whatever.

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Speaker 2: But and some people do make a big deal out

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Speaker 2: But I think in this particular case, like this lady's

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. All right, So now a mother

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Speaker 2: Listen, Like, there's something that triggers a mother. You'll experience

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Speaker 3: I've experienced it with your kids. There is a particular

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Speaker 2: Well. Also also remember it was like her first day

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Speaker 3: She she literally kidnapped an eleven year old boy, Like

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Speaker 3: she literally drove around seeking him out, stopped her car

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Speaker 2: My car right now. She should go to jail for that. Yes,

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Speaker 2: she that's like a terroristic threat against the child, like

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Speaker 3: Come on, wait, so then she I'm laughing about this,

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Speaker 3: but it's really not funny, she brings him back to

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Speaker 3: I can't even tell you the black outrage I would

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Speaker 2: I think there's a big difference. If it's like a

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Speaker 2: sixteen or seventeen year old boy that's like messing with

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Speaker 2: an adult and be like you're gonna get this back

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Speaker 2: and blah. Like an eleven year old is just they're

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Speaker 2: Try to talk to his parents.

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Speaker 3: Is it confirmed he was bullying the kid or did

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Speaker 3: In Australia, a company commissioned a car to be covered

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Speaker 3: don't know where the old information came from. But and

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Speaker 3: I don't know if how legit this study is or

436
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Speaker 3: if it's going to be taken seriously, but it's it

437
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Speaker 3: is interesting. I feel like my clinic in particular does

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Speaker 3: their own internal studies, so I feel like they would

439
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Speaker 3: test the theory out themselves before just like changing the

440
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Speaker 3: rule like that.

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Speaker 2: Well I don't know about that, because how would they

442
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Speaker 2: really conduct that. That would have to be like a

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Speaker 2: whole thing. It's not like it's it's not easy to

444
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Speaker 2: just do that like in the back lab, like it's well.

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Speaker 3: You know, they don't just have a back lab, like

446
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Speaker 3: it's a whole company.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, I don't know. I think if it's changed

448
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Speaker 2: with the recommendations that they would go forth with it,

449
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Speaker 2: or if they have success, they might just keep doing

450
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Speaker 2: what they've been doing. It's just it's pretty interesting though,

451
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Speaker 2: because now like that whole entire thing doesn't have to happen,

452
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Speaker 2: which is like listen, that's like stressful on dudes too

453
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Speaker 2: to to you know during that whole process, I mean,

454
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Speaker 2: because they care equally about having a baby too, and

455
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Speaker 2: then putting that stress on top of them of like

456
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,239
Speaker 2: they're they're going to get in big trouble with their

457
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Speaker 2: wife if they decide to do that. You know, it's

458
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Speaker 2: or or feel responsible if their wife doesn't get pregnant.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: What's weird is.

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Speaker 3: The room that it happens in because it's like right

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Speaker 3: outside of the lab where people are working, and it's

463
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Speaker 3: like a chair computer and like a dimly lit room.

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Speaker 2: I have a really good story that I think that

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Speaker 2: I should tell right now. So when I was a cytotech,

466
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Speaker 2: so that's a person a lab professional that looks at

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Speaker 2: cells under the microscope. I use to look at semen

468
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Speaker 2: under the microscope and do sperm counts for people who

469
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: were having they were post vas sectomy so or having infertility.

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Speaker 2: But usually it was just to check to make sure

471
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Speaker 2: that their vast sectomy worked, and sometimes it didn't. Sometimes

472
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: there would just be like one sperm left, but that happens.

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Speaker 2: It happened, and that one sperm yep, that one sperm works.

474
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Speaker 2: So and this was in the lab in the hospital.

475
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Speaker 2: We weren't like your place that you go to for

476
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Speaker 2: the fertility. That whole thing is like set up to

477
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: do that. Ours was like not set up to do that.

478
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: So it was you have to go in this bathroom

479
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Speaker 2: and get your sample. And it was our bathroom too,

480
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: it was that it was the employee's bathroom that it was.

481
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Speaker 2: It was kind of gross because we knew, you know,

482
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Speaker 2: if you got up to go to the bathroom. You

483
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 2: knew that if it was locked and someone was in there,

484
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: you knew what they were doing in there. And there

485
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: was no like we had so many difference to situation,

486
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,719
Speaker 2: so many stories of guys coming out and being like,

487
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Speaker 2: do you guys have any like magazines or anything, and

488
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: we're like no. It was just like a like a

489
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 2: hospital bathroom, right. So this one time, one of my

490
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: friends that worked there, she was one of the secretaries.

491
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: She like had to go to the bathroom really bad.

492
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Speaker 2: She was like this cute little thing and she just

493
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Speaker 2: like had a small bladder. I guess she always had,

494
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: you know. She raned the bathroom and she opens the

495
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 2: door and it wasn't locked, but there was a guy

496
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: sitting on the floor. He wasn't even sitting on the toilet.

497
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: He was like sitting on the floor like full frontal

498
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 2: like jerk in it. And she walked, she walked into it,

499
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: and then the guy left and never even dropped off

500
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Speaker 2: his sample. Of course, he was mortified. He was mortified,

501
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: and his wife was probably like, well, that's where we're

502
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 2: getting treatment. You gotta go back, Like I don't think

503
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 2: he ever came back. She was and she just there

504
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: was like she described a story so good because she

505
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 2: was just like standing there for like moments and they

506
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: were both like staring at each other and didn't know

507
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 2: what to do and like, oh my god.

508
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

509
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: So Schultz has a.

510
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Speaker 3: Really good bit in his Netflix special about this exact

511
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: thing because him and his wife went through IVF two

512
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Speaker 3: and how awkward the whole thing is.

513
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't know that is it is, but at least

514
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,719
Speaker 2: at your place, it's like, okay, that room is designated

515
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 2: for guys to go jerk off and get their samples.

516
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Speaker 3: And even though it's like sterile and unwelcoming, like I

517
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: don't feel bad. All you have to contribute to this

518
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: process is jerking off in a cup while I'm in

519
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: another room under twilight Nstezia with a giant needle.

520
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: And ovaries easy to like you, It's it's not as

521
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: easy as you think it is, Like it's not like you,

522
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: I don't go in there easy.

523
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: But you don't have to get like a procedure done

524
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 3: to do it, unless unless you have to get sperm extraction.

525
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: That does have to happen in some cases, and it's

526
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: terribly painful. I know.

527
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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to I'm just trying to like stand

528
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,719
Speaker 2: up for the guys a little bit. It's just like

529
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: it's it's hard to be like in a very clinical

530
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: setting and then be like going there and get sexy mode.

531
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: Like it just like isn't that easy for people?

532
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: Yes, but then think of other sex quests, like the

533
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: man next to you on the plane that could just

534
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: do it anywhere, and that people that jerk off on

535
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: the subway and on the street.

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Speaker 2: This is the thing though, too, Like this happened. I mean,

537
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: like this happened twenty years ago, this story. I'm telling you,

538
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: we didn't have like phones that had corn hub, right.

539
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 3: It's there was just like use your imagination.

540
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: There was there, but it wasn't set up like because

541
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 2: back in the day those kinds of like spermbanks and

542
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 2: stuff would have like nudy videos and magazines and like

543
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: the room was kind of set up for that to happen.

544
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: Now like when this was happening, it was a hospital bathroom.

545
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: Our phones we were like Motorolla flip phones. I don't

546
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: think that you could go on the internet, right, no,

547
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 2: like you you probably could look at a video at

548
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: that point, maybe on I don't even know, but it

549
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: was that it was like a lot for a guy

550
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 2: to have to do that. You'd have to bring in

551
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: your own thing. Wives would go in there with their

552
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: husbands and like they probably have sex. I don't even know.

553
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 3: I don't think you're allowed to do that with Well,

554
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: you're not allowed to do that with IVF because like

555
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: it could contaminate.

556
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but posting sact to me, I don't see why

557
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: you couldn't. Yeah, because even they're not allowed to use

558
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: like lotion or anything like if whatever. There's lots of rules.

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00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, always teetering on the line of completely inappropriate

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Speaker 3: conversations to have with your mother. We'll wrap up there

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Speaker 3: see everyone during our nighttime YouTube live tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Wait, can I just say I just need to say

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Speaker 2: something else that's really funny. So my friend, my friend

565
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: that walked in. When she retells the story, she doesn't

566
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: say he was sitting on the floor jerking off. She

567
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: says he was sitting there with his legs spread open

568
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Speaker 2: and he was waxing his carrot. Oh, I gotta text her.

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