WEBVTT - Hour 1 - Unprecedented Final Four Teams, Jay Bilas 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:08.280 Sports Radio. I hope you had a great weekend. Everybody. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:10.440 Coming up, we're going to talk to one of the 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:15.040 brightest college basketball mines in America. No, not Jay, billis 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:19.640 Seaton O'Connor's wife. I'll tell you why, coming up here 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:22.960 in a moment. Phone calls are always welcome every Monday, 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:26.000 while they're welcome every day, best and worst of the weekend. 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:28.200 Once you saw that you liked, you didn't like, you 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.480 can dial U up and operator Tyler standing by, got 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:33.479 a poll question, got a play of the day, started 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.920 the day. Coming up, also talked to the former Yukon Husky, 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:39.559 one of the greatest shooters in history. Ray Allen, will 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.440 join us. Coming up in a little bit as well. 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.639 Say good morning. Those watching on Peacock, thank you. That's 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.520 our streaming partner. Download the app and you can watch 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:52.559 for free. Florida, Atlantic, Connecticut, San Diego State, and Miami 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:56.440 going into the final four. Well, of course, just as 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.680 we thought. And I don't know what the odds are 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.120 to have all four of the final four teams. We're 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:06.959 looking at some of the numbers here, about one in 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:11.640 every six hundred thousand brackets predicted the final four correctly. 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:17.640 In the men's Bracket Challenge game NCAA dot Com, six 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:22.040 people somehow predicted every final four team correctly. Now I'm 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.640 looking at our Celebrity Bracket Challenge. Jim Beaheim is in first, 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:31.560 yes he is, buy a lot. Then it's Adam Sandler. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:35.199 Marvin Marvin is third right now, tied with Peter King. 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:40.960 But the person who is leading the bracket challenge for 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:48.000 everybody who entered over ten thousand entered Setan O'Connor's wife, Aaron. 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:53.720 She has all four final four teams. She will join 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.400 us a little bit later on to give us her 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:59.720 philosophy on how she came up with this brilliant, insightful, 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:04.720 intelligent approach to picking the final four. Yes, point Seaton, 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.520 I say this with all due respect. You have to 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.440 be a maniac to have the final four correct. Like 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:13.200 what would be seen much of this couple days ago. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.880 I was like, Oh, okay, it's a nutty thing to 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.280 think anyone who used basketball to pick this, and she 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.520 picked Connecticut to win it all. By the way, if 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:25.639 Connecticut wins it all in the Celebrity Bracket Challenge, let's 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:31.800 see Marvin can win this. Seaton has Connecticut winning as well. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.280 But over ten thousand fans entered the bracket Challenge and 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:40.440 in first place is Seaton's wife, Aaron. Yeah, Seaton Yeah. 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.240 When she filled it out and I was looking at 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:43.799 it because you know, my son put one in there, 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.000 I have one obviously, and then she did. I was like, babe, 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.440 this is wild. It is a wild final four. You 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.399 gout And I was talking to her about how there, 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.760 you know, they're like usually the seeds of all the 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.880 final four adds up to like six or seven. Yours 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:59.000 is like twenty nine or something like that. Twenty three 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:03.400 twenty three. The final four seeds Yukon's four, San Diego 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:07.760 States five, Miami is five, and Florida Atlantic is nine, 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:11.760 adds up to twenty three, second highest combined seed total 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.760 for a final four. The only other one that was 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:19.560 more that was twenty six was twenty eleven Connecticut of three, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:24.360 Kentucky four, Butler and eight VCU and eleven. Also the 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.200 first time since seeding began back in nineteen seventy nine, 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.200 the final four includes no teams seeded one, two or 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:41.600 three day start out of the day start of day. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:49.200 This is the start of the day. If you look 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.640 at the starting lineups of the teams in the Elite 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:59.120 eight nineteen transfers, sixteen seniors, one true freshman, and it 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:03.240 used to be when a freshman dominated college basketball. Jalel 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:07.720 Ocalfour for Duke in twenty fifteen, Anthony Davis Kentucky, twenty twelve, 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:14.240 go back to Carmelo, Anthony, it's Syracuse. But after the weekend, Connecticut, Florida, Atlantic, 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:18.400 San Diego State in Miami. Multiple talented players, but there's 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.520 no John Wall there's narrow Derek Rose. Your one star 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.600 freshman was supposed to be Brandon Millar at Alabama. They 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.800 were bounced by San Diego State in the sweet sixteam. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.120 So still a lot of great programs here, but the 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.640 approach for the one and done. And maybe it's an 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:38.560 aberration this year because you have the COVID year transfers, 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:42.640 but it feels like these teams, these schools are older, 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.400 not relying on the one and done. We'll talk to 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.479 Jay billishill join us coming up here in a little bit. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.240 Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.200 the official trading cards to the Dan Patrick Show. Also 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.600 they say good things come to those who wait. Mercedes 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.640 Ben's sub family proof it was otherwise. So it takes 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.479 no time at all to set up a test drive 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:07.280 at your local Mercedes Benz dealer. Learn more MBUSA dot 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:11.040 com Poll question today Seaton O'Connor, Well, Dan, we could 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:14.320 get into the probably the overwhelming storyline coming out of 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.560 the weekend. Should the foul have been called at the 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:20.279 end of Creton San Diego? Yeah, I'm okay with it. 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.920 I didn't like it, but I didn't like the pass 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.039 interference call and the Super Bowl ended that way with 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.800 the Eagles in the chiefs. But it's a penalty, it's 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.960 a foul. Didn't want to end that way, but it did. 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.839 And what we didn't really see initially was there's a 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.159 little push on the hip and you know, I thought 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.960 it was a foul up top, or they called a 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.800 foul up top, and I realized that there was no 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:47.560 foul there. There was a little push from behind, and uh, 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.880 you know, they sold it. Creton is out. What else 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:54.960 do you have? We could talk about? Two? This year's 0:05:55.000 --> 0:06:01.360 Final four is awesome or awkward? M Well, it can 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:06.200 be awesomely awkward. I would just say it, is it 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.200 good or bad or great or bad, because I don't 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.560 know if people you know, is this a true reflection 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:17.520 of college basketball? Now? Oh there's parody? Okay, is it 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.560 just this year? And this is what I want to 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.520 talk to Bill is about. Is this the future? And 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.640 then eventually you're gonna have players who are going to 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.200 be coming out of high school going right to the NBA, 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:31.919 and maybe older schools will be the norm because the 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.320 younger talent is going to go right from high school 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:36.520 to the NBA eventually. Again, yeah, see, I think the 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.120 one thing that really helps this final four two is 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.120 that the schools might not be the biggest names, but 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.240 they're fun to watch. The style of play for a 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.280 lot of these teams is really fun. They're super athletic, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.599 they're up and down the court. It's not just sort 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:52.800 of you know, motion offense. I've maintained that we love 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.599 that first weekend. We love the surprises. Oh didn't know 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:00.400 about that team, that player, that school. And then you 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.760 get to sort of like the elite eight and you're like, Okay, 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:07.680 let's restore norm the normalcy, and that hasn't been the case. 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:09.880 I mean, I don't know if this is what college 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:14.000 basketball is going to be, but you do have older players, 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.320 players who have transferred to be able to get another 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.840 year to play, or I played here at a high level, 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.080 now I can go there. You got nil money. I 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.440 mean Miami, they got a billionaire booster who spent money. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.080 You got a little bit of everything here. Connecticut doesn't 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.440 have players who are in the top thirty in the nation. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.640 They have a lot of players, I think five players, 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.720 four or five players who are somewhere between forty and 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.920 sixty as far as being ranked. When they were coming 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.240 to Connecticut and Dan Hurley said, hey, you better get 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.400 us now. And he said this a couple of years ago, 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.280 because we're coming and they're here and they're the best 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.240 team in the tournament. Yeah. See. You know it's funny 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:59.200 too about Dan Hurley. He keeps absolutely crushing other conferences 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.040 in his thing. He'll be like, well, the Big East 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.240 is obviously the best. So once we sort of got 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.840 through that juggernaut, we knew that our non conference schedule 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.760 was a cakewalk. He was just like, we haven't faced 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.360 anybody good. He's just killing other conferences. I ran into 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.280 his father a couple of weeks ago. I told the 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.800 Dane's about this and legendary high school coach Bob Hurley, 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.480 and I said, you know what's happened with Danny's team. 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.120 He goes, well, the non conference, they were blowing everybody out, 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.080 and then they got into conference tournament and then all 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.040 of a sudden, it's like this is the battle every 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.000 single night, and they realized they weren't as good as 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:32.760 they thought they were. Now, this is a couple of 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:37.040 weeks ago, but his father I sat down with him 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.280 for probably an hour, just talking college basketball. But he 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.320 did talk about Connecticut when they started to where they 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.439 are now. By the way, I signed up for the 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.959 DP shown newsletter. I think next week is when we 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:53.800 have Azalea tailgate moonshine available. Is that what we're looking 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.080 at sitting looking at next week? Coincidental link, We're gonna 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:01.520 have tailgate moonshine Azalea coming out sometime next week. I 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.359 mean it's when they're ready. Oh yeah, you know yeah. 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.280 I had a little sip over the weekend, once again 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.040 quality control that I wanted to make sure that it 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:14.120 tasted absolutely pure the way it should. But the Azalea 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.960 moonshine and watermelon, I have my wife try that. Last night, 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.760 I said, give me your honest opinion on it. And 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.120 she said, there is such a great hint of watermelon 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.120 at the very end of that when you take a sip. 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:29.160 I said, exactly, huh, that's what we're going for. So 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:33.040 Seaton's wife can pick brackets. My wife knows how to 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:37.160 pick moonshine and a husband. All Right, we'll get phone 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.640 calls coming up, best and worse for the weekend. You 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.480 can dial us up. Jay Billis will join us as well. 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:47.160 Kind of wild though it was fun, and you're always thinking, well, 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.760 I know how this is gonna end. Connecticut's the only 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.400 one where I go, I know how this is gonna end. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.760 When they played Gonzaga and I'm watching with a lot 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.080 of Connecticut fans and I said, this thing, They're going 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.120 to blow them out. This is not going to be close. 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:00.240 And they go, how do you know that. I go, 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:05.000 trust me. Gonzaga at their speed and Connecticut at their speed. 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.760 Connecticut is a great team right now. And Gonzaga had 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:14.520 drew Timmy, but he looks slow compared to Connecticut. But 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:18.440 the best basketball the weekend, the best player in America, 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:24.400 the best shooter in America, Caitlin Clark at Iowa. Just 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:29.480 watch you know it's not there's no hyperbole here. Watch 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:33.079 her play. She plays at a high level, highly skilled. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.319 She's the best passer in America, and she's the best 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:40.840 shooter in America. Promise you get a chance to watch her. 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.800 If you haven't watched her, you know you're doing yourself 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.920 a disservice. If you're a college basketball fan, and you 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.840 know there's a lot of players who are really good 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:55.360 in women's basketball, like talented step back jumpers, shooting deep threes. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.640 That's really impressive. And keep this in mind. She averages 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.400 twenty seven a game. She also averages over eight assists, 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.680 so she leads the nation in scoring and she leads 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.400 the nation in assists. And you talk about somebody who 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.199 hits the open man, the open person. She is wonderful. 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:19.640 And men's basketball is forty minutes, women's basketball's thirty two. 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.600 You give her, you know, another quarter what she's averaging 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.240 thirty a game? At least she had what a triple 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:31.520 double last night? Put up what forty one? And what 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.560 are the let's see the numbers were forty one, twelve 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:40.320 and ten. First Final Four appearance for Iowa basketball. She's 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.880 fun to watch she's a great player. She is different 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:48.240 because she shoots as I'm waiting for this. Remember when 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.280 the criticism came with Steph Curry on he's ruining basketball. 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.720 Everybody thinks they can shoot at three. If you're you know, 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.720 have a daughter, she's gonna look at Caitlin Clark and 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.280 she's gonna want to shoot. I'm waiting for the everybody 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.520 thinks they can shoot a three, and you know, unless 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.400 we're already there with that because of Steph Curry. I 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.559 like that he ruined basketball. He's so good that everybody 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:15.040 wants to do it. Okay, Caitlyn Clark is changing the 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.880 way we look at college basketball, you know, as far 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.520 as shooting goes, because these are deep, deep, deep through. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.920 These are logo threes and pull ups, pull up, it'll 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:29.679 be one on two pull up from three bang. Really impressive. 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.880 So there's a lot of fun things over the weekend. 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.520 I don't know if there was great men's basketball, but 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.800 there was interesting men's basketball. But we'll talk to Billi's 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.840 about that coming up. Anything else that we need to 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.760 focus on there Setan O'Connor. Paul's got a pull question here. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.640 It's a really good topic too. The reason for this 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:50.839 final four is none. It's just an anomaly older players 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.880 on rosters. Is NIL hurting bigger programs? I think that's 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:59.319 an interesting topic. Three point shot other, neither or neither? Okay, Yeah, 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.319 these are all things that I can ask Billis about. 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.840 I don't know the exact numbers with what Miami did 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.040 with their name, image and likeness, but I know they 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:10.800 got some players who got paid. I think maybe a 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.360 Wang has a two year eight hundred thousand dollars and 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.040 io Wow, yeah, I think so. Yeah. See, because it 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.160 wasn't the original idea that NIL was going to force 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.320 all of the best players to go to the biggest schools, 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.560 like it was going to kill the little schools. But 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.400 now maybe with the tournament, is it working out opposite. 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:32.720 All it takes is one really really rich booster donor, 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.320 And that's what you have at Miami. You've got a 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:39.520 billionaire who is helping finance the athletic program, bringing it 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.320 back to life. Although Miami has never been a great 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.560 basketball program, you'd have to go back to probably when 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.040 Rick Barry was there back in the sixties, but I 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.679 don't know if consistently been a great You know, it's 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:54.720 the you they've been known for their football, although they 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.320 haven't been known for that for a while either. But 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.679 we'll talk to Billis and then Ray Allen will join us, 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.160 the ten time All Star, former Connecticut basketball player, and 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.280 your phone calls coming up. You can email us. You 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.560 can also dial us up. You can tweet all the 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.840 above at DP show on Twitter. And we say good 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:16.840 morning to our radiophiliate's iHeartRadio Fox Sports Radio. John Ruiz 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.680 is the billionaire with Miami. He was praised for the 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:26.640 work that he's done with name, image and likeness for Miami. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.440 I don't know if they have him like cut down 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.640 the nets or anything, or does he get to get 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:35.320 on the ladder or do you get a ring? Probably so, 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.720 knowing him, you'll probably buy them rings for getting to 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.080 the final four if they don't get to the title game. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.680 All right, we'll take a break, Jay Billis will join 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.680 us a little later on. One of the great college 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.960 basketball minds in America, Seaton O'Connor's wife Aaron, will join 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:54.920 us as well. It's still mind boggling, mind boggling that 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.080 she has all four due. It was so much fun 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.840 watching the games this weekend because you know, my brack. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:01.920 It was busted a long time ago. So really, at best, 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.360 I'm rooting for Yukon because I picked them, but just 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.000 watching all of them and each one happened, you know, 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.120 they were most of them were close games. They came 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.480 right down to the wire. Dude, we were dying. It's 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:16.960 just like this isn't predictable. There's nothing predictable about this. 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.320 I mean maybe you could say Yukon a lot of 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.440 people like Connecticut when the tournament started to get to 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.360 the final four. Well, to be fair to her, she 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:28.480 watches a lot of tape. Oh she did well, it's 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:33.400 about guard playing. Yeah, yeah, but well, you know, this 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.000 is the kind of story where your wife would be 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.560 on Good Morning America right where they go in this 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:44.600 housewife and suburban Hartford picked all four the final four teams. 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.120 Nobody saw it coming, and he scept her. And let's 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:51.480 bring in Aaron, who joins us. Aaron, explain how you 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:56.320 did this? Well, no, thanks for me. Saved, saved. All right, 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.200 we'll come back. Billis will join us. We'll get to 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.400 your phone calls as well. Just getting started on this 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:05.400 Monday Dan Patrick Show, Getrefunds dot Com is here to 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.760 help you and this is what they're going to do. 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.080 They're going to help you get a refund. You can 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:14.160 apply for the Employee Retention Credit or ARC. Go Getrefunds 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.800 dot Com, get started, and it'll take less than eight minutes. 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.640 They got it. They know that your time is valuable. 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:25.440 See if your business qualifies for ARC assistance. 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The Mercedes Benz range of SUVs. 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.960 I remember waiting to impress learn More and b USA 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:39.520 dot Com Isaiah Wong at Miami that name, image and 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:43.520 likeness money that certainly played a role, I think here 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:47.600 with the Miami Hurricanes. He's j billis ESPN college basketball 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.240 analyst joining us on the program. J if I said, 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:54.480 the reason for this year's Final four is none an anomaly, 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:59.240 older players, nil hurting the bigger programs three point shot 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:04.960 or other. I'd say it would be more anomaly. Dan 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.600 that even though there's some firsts in this year's Final four, 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.439 it's the first time since seventy nine when they went 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.280 to seeding that there's not a one, two or three 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.920 seed in the Final four. But at the same time, 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:17.960 we've got a four or two fives and a nine. 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:24.680 If you go back to twenty eleven, we had a three, four, 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.400 nine and an eleven. And so I mean the seed 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.320 numbers were hired that year. We don't have a double 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:35.800 digit seed this year. Florida Atlantic won thirty some games 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:37.440 in the regular season. They were ranked in the top 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:41.600 twenty five. Yukon was ranked number one at one point 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:45.840 in the season in late November. It's not like this 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:50.240 is some shocking final four We just have some first 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:54.520 timers and we didn't have any knockout punch great teams 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.720 this year, but we've had years like that before. San 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:01.320 Diego State the only final fourteen that wasanked preseason top 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:06.280 twenty five, and they were nineteen. And I know preseason 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:09.680 rankings are always difficult because you're not quite sure team 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:13.000 matures or player you know, they mesh or somebody gets heard, 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:18.080 whatever it might be. But still that's pretty shocking. Yes, 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.840 And no, I mean San Diego State's not allowed to lose, 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.760 so they're ranked. They got beat by Arizona when Arizona 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.160 was a top ranked team all year long. They got 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.320 beat by Arizona and Maui, and then they lose a 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.359 couple of conference games. They've lost five games overall. They're 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.280 not allowed to lose in the Mountain West, and so 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.240 you don't get a lot of respect from voters when 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.920 you lose, and Yukon went on a six game slide, 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.120 which you know, it was kind of hard to explain, 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.399 but you know, in November everybody thought they were the 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:50.400 best team and they go on that slide and then 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.960 they picked it back up again. And at the beginning 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:54.880 of the tournament, you know, when the bracket came out, 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:56.919 that was the first thing I said, was like, a Yukon, 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.399 I mean, Yukon's gonna gonna win this thing. And you 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.160 know then I thought about it longer and said, well, 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:06.679 maybe Arizona than Arizona. So the first round, but that 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.199 just went to sort of the no knockout punch teams. 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.000 You know, we had a bunch of good, really good teams, 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:16.919 but nobody was great, was truly great. But uh, you know, 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.000 and people say that's what they want, you know, they 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.600 want that the little guide have a chance, which it 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.399 does every year. Like there's nothing more fair than the 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.040 NC Double a tournament. Everybody gets a fair shot to 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.120 get in. All you have to do is win your 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:33.480 automatic bid, which is against your peers. And it's done 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.640 in almost every conference, I think it is every conference. 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:39.960 Now it's done by a tournament, and so The truth 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.359 is everybody is in the NC Double A tournament. All 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.280 they have to do is when they're automatic bid and 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:48.040 they get in UM but uh, and then they take 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:50.679 the next best teams after that. And that's where the 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:53.720 argument comes in is what is what is best teams mean? 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:57.240 After that? Is there a philosophy of growing, philosophy of 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.600 not focusing on the one and done everybody once a 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:03.440 great player? I mean, we only had one big time freshman, 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:07.720 Brandon Miller with Alabama. But is that an anomaly that 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:13.480 there wasn't that impactful player the freshman? No? I mean, see, 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:17.680 what I think is happening is we've always had older 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:21.960 players in the overwhelming majority of teams because very few 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.640 teams could get one and done, and certainly very few 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.720 could get enough of them to rely upon them. So 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.680 Duke was doing it, Kentucky started doing it when John 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.680 Calipari got there in twenty ten. But then you'd see 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:37.520 other big programs North Carolina would take one, maybe two 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:41.000 and blend them in with older guys. But you know, 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:44.320 then the narrative starts if a one and done team loses, See, 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:48.160 you can't win with freshman. Well, since twenty ten, two 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:50.880 of the teams that have won the most have been 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.960 Duke in Kentucky, and they did it with largely with freshman. 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.600 The transfer portal came in. The NCAA put in this 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:00.919 transfer portal, and there seems to be a shift now 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:03.440 that you're going to go, okay, why not take an 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:07.119 older guy with experience for two years, then take a 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:10.480 younger guy for two years And so you're seeing a 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.199 little more of that and a little less reliance on 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.680 freshman right now. I don't know how it's going to 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:19.280 shake out, you know, John Caliperry, And again I haven't 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.400 talked We may have talked about this earlier. I haven't 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:23.440 talked to cal about this, so I don't I don't 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:25.920 know what he thinks. But from my seat, it looked 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:28.840 like he was trying to get ahead of the transfer portal, 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:33.639 started taking some transfers, and he's not as talented, and 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:36.119 next year he's got a number one recruiting class coming in. 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:37.879 I don't know if it'll shift back or it'll be 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:41.320 a combination, but a lot of coaches are saying, hey, 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:43.240 why not why not take the older guys, you know, 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:47.040