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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to this edition of Big Fish Small Pod

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Speaker 1: for Thursday, September eighth, twenty twenty two. And if you

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Speaker 1: are new to the Small Pod, you would like to

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Speaker 1: give you all the information about the Marlins for that

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Speaker 1: particular day, all season long, ten minutes or less. And

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Speaker 1: here today we have a special guest for the Big

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Speaker 1: Fish Small Pod. We have Fish Stripes member mister Adam

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Speaker 1: ac Bonnie. Adam is great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Daniel, thank you for having me on. Man.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, my pleasure, My pleasure. The first thing I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you know now you're new to Fish Stripes,

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Speaker 1: just really quick, how has it been for you coming

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Speaker 1: on board and what you've been doing so far for FS?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's been great man. I've pumped out a

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Speaker 2: few articles. Probably got to get back on that soon,

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Speaker 2: but I know you guys have been awesome. I've love

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Speaker 2: the carmaraderie and you know, it's great have another group

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Speaker 2: of friends that I can talk to baseball with and

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Speaker 2: just in general you guys being able to be around

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Speaker 2: you guys, and hope they can meet some of you

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Speaker 2: whene We're gonna go down to Miami and they'd be

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Speaker 2: a killer time.

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Speaker 1: And speaking to Miami the Marlins, you know, covering this season,

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Speaker 1: they haven't been the best that maybe we have hoped for,

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Speaker 1: but it's always great to look out and have that

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Speaker 1: outlook for twenty twenty three. Adam, my question just for

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Speaker 1: you was, just what do the Marlins have to do

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Speaker 1: this offseason to get in twenty twenty three where they

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Speaker 1: wanted to be this year?

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Speaker 2: The playoffs? Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna lie like

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be kind of difficult to see the playoffs

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Speaker 2: in the scope for the team next year. But I

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Speaker 2: guess if we're gonna be thinking abstractly, it's gonna come

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Speaker 2: down to, like the farm system isn't ready, but we're

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Speaker 2: gonna it's gonna come down to like a lot of

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Speaker 2: free agents that the team is gonna have to make

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Speaker 2: a splash, right, So you know we're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: we see the bullpen or the rotation already somewhat solidified,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't help adding some extra arms in the bullpen, but

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Speaker 2: we're really gonna have to see some amazing major upgrades

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Speaker 2: one through nine. And I think in general, we've seen

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Speaker 2: a history of the franchise not being really it's been

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Speaker 2: reluctant to spending except for those couple of times. But

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Speaker 2: I just don't see Bruce Sherman opening up the checkbook

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Speaker 2: at this point this juncture. So I think if anything,

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Speaker 2: is going to have to take a miracle in terms

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Speaker 2: of like any prospects will be coming up. But it's

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Speaker 2: it's going to be very difficult in general just to

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Speaker 2: really be to be very optimistic about the Marlins next year.

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Speaker 2: But if anything, it'll have to take major free agent

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this year twenty twenty two, there have been

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Speaker 1: quite a few negatives, But I want to go into positives.

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Speaker 1: What are maybe I would give you maybe three positives.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you've seen from the Marlins this year that they

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Speaker 1: look to carry over to twenty twenty three to three

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Speaker 1: Maybe positive outlooks that you saw from this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean, whenever he got a rough season,

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Speaker 2: there's always things you can look forward to for the

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Speaker 2: next year, right. I think the biggest one is just

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Speaker 2: you know, you've got Sandy This year has been out

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Speaker 2: solely fantastic. Saw a young candidate and like for me,

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Speaker 2: he's just been absolutely great and I think next year

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Speaker 2: he's going to be you know, he's gonna be the

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Speaker 2: ace of that rotation. And you've got a lot of

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Speaker 2: his walks, Hazzaro really coming on strong the past couple

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Speaker 2: Yuri Peize when my opinion, is probably going to be

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Speaker 2: year block knock on Wood. So I think it's really

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Speaker 2: going to be exciting looking forward for the young prospects,

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Speaker 2: also seeing Sandy coming on strong next year to hopefully

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Speaker 2: defend his son if you were to win it this year,

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Speaker 2: and as well just to see like the general development

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Speaker 2: who knows you could actually have the season we're trying

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Speaker 2: It's it's just really been an unfortunate Hodgepodge is a

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Speaker 2: very easily all come together the blink of a nine.

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Speaker 2: It's there's room potential for potential optimism if everyone, if

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Speaker 2: were supposed to this year. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And one of the players there you mentioned, Yuri, who

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Speaker 1: your take just from you, just what makes curate that good?

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Speaker 1: What makes them as good, if not better, because some

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I've talked about the kind of Marlin's mo

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Speaker 2: o and their kind of mantra and style for developing pictures,

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Speaker 2: their best ones they've got so far, especially with Sandy

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Speaker 2: with Pablo, they're very I've mentioned this before, they're very

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Speaker 2: And like I've mentioned before, like that works until your

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Speaker 2: rely more on your movement in order to get swings

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Speaker 2: with me Uri, especially performing at such a young age,

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Speaker 2: averaging well over ten strikeouts per nine over every level

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Speaker 2: that he's pitched at, just at nineteen and being in

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Speaker 2: the two swaying in a miss, strike three in the dirt.

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Speaker 2: scoreless innings for Yuri Paran. He's got the mold. He's

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Speaker 2: And he he he can touch over one hundred two

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Speaker 2: pitcher and he's him. And Andrew Painter I've mentioned are

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Speaker 2: likely your two best pitching prospects in the minors. And

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Speaker 2: they're almost as if like their next evolution of pitcher,

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Speaker 2: Like they're both of them are that good, and Yuri

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Just my last question to you mentioned his name

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Speaker 1: joining Grosshan's, just what does his outlook for twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three is that someone that gets caught up in the

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Speaker 1: You know in part of that roster? How does Grosshan's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so gros Sean's is gonna have his play in time.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's like there is no really a reason

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Speaker 2: my opinion not to let the guys who are you know,

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Speaker 2: be a very solid, uh you know, one to two

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Speaker 2: But I think he actually absolutely has a really good

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Speaker 2: that chance, and I think he can. He has a

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Speaker 2: legitimate opportunity to be a starter and a staple in

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Speaker 2: this Miami Marlins lineup for many years to come, especially

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Speaker 1: Well, Adam h that was a great answer. I want

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Speaker 1: to thank you again for for coming on coming on

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Speaker 1: the small pod. You know, you know, it's great having

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Speaker 1: you on Fish Stripes and you know, I'm really looking

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Speaker 1: forward to next season and just more your writings, more

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Speaker 1: your work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it man. Thanks for looking forward to

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Speaker 2: working with all of you guys as well. You guys

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Speaker 2: all do great work. Awesome, awesome,