WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Let Nate Mow! 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:06.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:18.560 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Blowing out of the backfield, 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:23.880 the flumbing down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:29.400 presented by Windstuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts, 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:36.600 Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Thursday, 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.320 eleven thirty eight m Central Time. And that can mean 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.599 only one thing. We are back. We are hanging with 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:48.680 the boys. Jesse Holly, Nate Newton, Shannon Gross, Kurt Daniels. 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.559 You are looking live at Tostito's Championship Plaza at the 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.840 Star in Frisco. It is a brisk fifty degrees today, 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.600 feels like forty four with the wind. The wind's kicking, man, 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.520 the wind is kicking. We would like to thank Wingstop 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.240 for sponsoring the show. We would like to thank s 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:11.560 WBC Mortgage for sponsoring this studio which Kurt. He is 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:16.520 in studio. It's good to heyer Man, it's good to 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.880 have you here. Kind of strange being back. He's still 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:20.760 trying to kind of get my bearing. Yeah, we're behind 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.800 the hockey glass here in the studio, but you know, yeah, 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:28.640 it's good. Yeah, it's good, it's good. But security know you, Kurt, 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.160 Like when you walked in, the security was like, hey, Kurt, 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.800 what's up? Year a long time, no see, and then 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.160 you're gonna cost it like like Pat Union. Then when 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.360 he went back into the guard now quite like I'm 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.200 trying to figure out I'm trying to figure out your level. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:44.160 I'm trying to figure out your level of celebrity. At 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.880 the start of his clout in the building, trying to 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.680 figure that out. Yeah, I'm trying to see that. You know, 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:51.480 the security give you kind of a little tip of 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.680 the capitol head. And I like what Kurt was good. 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.760 Security had no clue who I was, and I had 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.840 no clue. He just wanted he just wanted you to 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:04.920 your QR code and take your Temperature's very nice. He's 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.480 a very nice guy, very nice. Yes, it's very nice. 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.320 I'm guessing there's been some turnover here since I've last 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.160 been in the building, So no, I did not know 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:16.840 him all right, Well, one other one other partner that 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.480 we would love to think today we have got to 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.720 give a big shout out and a huge thank you 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:25.840 to Dunkin Donuts. They supplied all of us yes, including 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.680 Chris being back in the control room with gift cards 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.399 to Dunkin Donuts and they want us to talk about 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.160 their cold brew with Sweet Cold Foam. And I'm just 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.240 gonna read you the bullet points because they gave me 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.200 different types of copy and I just want to go 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.760 through this and just read the bullet points to make 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.919 it simple. It's new from Duncan. It's called the Sweet 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.000 Cold Foam. It's the perfect way to top the perfect 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.640 cup of Dunking Cold Brew. It's an added layer of 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:55.480 silky smoothness on top of already smooth twelve hours steep 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.840 Dunking cold Brew. Give a lift to every sip with 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.119 this velvety feet than that you can't top try medium 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.720 chocolate stout cold brew was Sweet Cold Foam. Cold Brew 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.359 was Sweet Cold Foam or cold brew for three bucks 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.720 Cowboys run on Duncan. Price and participation may vary. It's 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.120 a limited time offer, so huge shout out too. I'm 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.280 not a I'm not a coffee guy, but you guys 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.079 go try it and let me know. I will spend 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:23.839 my gift card on straight up donuts. I am going 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:25.680 with donuts, but if any of you got Nate I 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.639 know you're a big coffee guy. I know you don't 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:31.320 like cold coffee. Dude like coffee. You like hot coffee, right, Nate, 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.000 I drank coffee. Man. Y'all y'all always hit me slurping 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.280 on the show. And then you know when I do 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:40.720 that to mister Jesse begetting that coffee, I thought it 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.520 was Simmons, mister Jones, you know, yeah, you know, I 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.280 thought it was you know you you you know you're 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.720 sixteen and knowing it. I thought you was over there, 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:50.400 you know, just trying to make sure you was still 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.920 in good famous on mister Jones. He mister sixteen and 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:59.160 old you drink you know. Lets you know, I'm whipped 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:08.520 dunk away and uh, I'm just upset this morning. So 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.119 before before we go down this road, before we talk 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:16.240 about hang on before, thank you, Duncan. We really appreciate you. 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:19.240 Thank you. We're gonna separate little dude. We're gonna separate 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:24.200 you from this conversation because angry Nate ain't from a 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:29.560 fat black man who's angry. All right, thank you, Duncan. Now, Nate, 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:35.279 tell us what are you angry about today? Every time 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:41.560 I go a guess the grain and these coats ideas 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:48.520 for the day. I get stuff like these people wrote. 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:53.080 The Cowboys need to focus on leadership. They need to 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.960 not worry about it if a player good or bad, 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.320 or whether he can play or not, but he can 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:03.240 come in and right roll us. Come on, fellas, Come on, 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:07.160 man for whoever wrote this and it's a dm end 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.160 and I know who it is. Come on, man, you 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:15.279 need players that can play with leadership skills. And I 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.120 hate to jump the gun, Kurt, and I know this 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:26.200 is your your segment. I that uh that, Jesse, would 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.640 you like a guy that's old is the cript that 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:32.400 can't play to say? Not like this? You need to 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.760 run this route like that? Well, sir, can you get 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.120 out of here and show me? Well my better day 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:43.360 has done pass? Come on? But leadership, I mean, there's 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.360 a lot of good leaders in their young That's what 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.240 I'm saying them. But but I'm saying is you're not 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:52.240 gonna go pay some twenty five year old that can't play. 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.520 You've nine time my teen. You're gonna play from thirty 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.520 year old or thirty one year old that can play 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.920 or that it has had great success, and that's who 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.640 you're gonna pay. An older guy for this leadership ability, 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.120 you know, but why not get that guy that's like 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:13.120 twenty seven, that has some got some great skills, you know, 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.960 because I'm with you, Jesse, and you got on your 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.920 your your final full uniform now and there's come home. 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.800 Because the Cowboys don't want to sign no free agents. 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.880 I told y'all four months ago we're talking about how 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:31.480 bad this defense is, and now here today we're free 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:35.919 ext an all time favorite pitch on five and we 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.279 went out and get Carlos Watkins a fourth round pick. 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.960 The texts, don't forget the deeper we got three, don't 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:49.640 forget the deep snoop, maybe they got good leadership. Who yeah, 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:54.360 leadership for watching, for watching? Uh for watching the other kid? 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.760 J J. Watts leaving get paid in full, that's the leadership. 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.039 If we we're gonna pay somebody, let's pay him. Let's 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.560 pay him. That You do take some of that into 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.080 account though, right, I mean, you want guys that can 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.400 help build your culture or does it not matter? Does 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.440 winning build the culture? And you just need a player. 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:16.760 This is not basketball where you can go get a 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.680 guy who's smart enough, who's up in age, that can 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.920 still play and be on the court and not totally 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:28.400 mess up the game. We we got got we got 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:32.320 such a big and strong need on our on our 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.560 defense too. If you don't have the right guy out 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:39.880 there showing his abilities and his wares of what to do, 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:47.640 you you you're spending your wheels. You players make plays, 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.240 just another guy is cheering on the sideline, waiting to 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.520 be traded and waiting to be shifted out of here. 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:58.760 But I'm being honest. Now, Well, since we're here kind 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.000 of talking about the culture and players and all that, 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.520 I mean, have you ever seen we talk about building 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.400 a good culture, but have you ever seen a team 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.720 that had a good culture but didn't win? Is it 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.600 kind of a chicken or the egg cut thing where 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.440 if you want a good culture you have to win? No? No, 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.800 if you if you got the right culture. I've seen 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.560 good teams who reached their peak and can't go any further. 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.640 And I'll say two years ago to Bears, they had 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.040 a good team with a good culture, and they got 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.440 as far as their quarterbacks stopped them. You get what 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:32.280 I'm saying, You know, so the Bears. Yes, you know, 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.560 I've seen teams that have had good cultures and trying 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.720 to go in the right direction, but they had a 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:42.920 key player that stopped them, either through injury or through 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:48.960 his inability to take his team over the top. So yeah, 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.680 culture is something that you live, something that you breathe, 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.760 and something that you do. You cannot have one without 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:00.320 the other, you know, because we as players, you can 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.480 You can't be eighty five years old standing on the 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.640 sideline and you can't be a half a player saying well, man, 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.120 in my day when I played and I won my 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.400 three Super Bowls, I'm telling you this is how we 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.679 did it. I need to be coaching then so I 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:17.840 can be on these guys every day. Coaches can help 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:21.880 with that culture to day. Quinn can help with that culture. Coach. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.120 Coach McCarthy can help with that coaching, but he needs 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.079 players that he can put in place to show up high. 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:32.760 I would think they can drive, but they would they 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.440 can't drive it. But you need You need to have 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.080 something to drive. A nineteen sixty five beat of your 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:42.400 bull ain't gonna make you. Gotta have something to drive. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.400 And I ain't talking about the Mansa ride. I'm talking 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.840 about a big four f two fifty baby snatching everything 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.920 out of the out of the wheels, locking up everything 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.560 on all folds and scratching and going baby, That's what 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:58.080 I'm talking about. So I said that Ford. I like 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.400 that partner placement in there, Nate. That was good. Yes, 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.240 I don't think they're gonna be sending out card gift 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.439 cards like duncan send you gift cards. But they said 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.360 Dion too, didn't they? Bro? They already looking out for 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:13.559 d n you know, like shout outside, can't get him 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.280 on the show? You think Duncan you want to dunk 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:21.400 it donut card? We love dun if you like, can 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.840 I get a partnership with Doc? Can I get one 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:31.080 of those franchises? Yes? Jesse, Jesse, I'm concerned about you today. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.000 You have been extremely extreme. Are you just so focused 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.800 on the game today that the UNC game that you 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.480 just you mailing it in for the show. Nah, I 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.520 don't really even play today. But I like what Nate 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.839 get like this. I like it, I like I like 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.880 I listen, I like I always tell you guys, a 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:58.160 quiet pre show. Nate is an explosive end game show, Nate, 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.360 So when you got so so so so, when your 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.439 shooter is on fire, one of my ticket shots for 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.240 let him feed him the rock. He he hit four 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.439 or five threes in a row. So when they come 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.959 out of the gate and say he upset, I sit back, 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:17.520 I shut my mouth and I let the big gridgely go. 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:23.120 I let him go. So wemas this I want you 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:27.840 to answer this, Shannon okay if Kevin Sheraton said at 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.520 the dm end wrote they need to stop trying to 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.640 buy cheat quick fixes and free agency to fix the 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:39.200 defense and invest the impact players. Like Jerry said, the owner, 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.680 you get what you paid for it. Mister Jones said 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:48.040 when he signed that anything that he has overpaid for, 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:52.960 he's never been disappointed in when we've underpaid for a 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:57.839 whole lot of things on defense lately and they have underperformed. So, 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.880 like mister Jones said, we need to go out and 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:10.480 get us some balls, some ball players on arm like that. 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.200 Already put it, already put in my invoce for this month. 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:18.000 So I'm gonna so what's the question you said you 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:19.760 have a question for me. You're gonna ask me something. 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.520 The question is do you believe in what mister Jones saying? 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.760 You pay for what you get? And who was a 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:32.080 bigger fan than the defensive signings last year, and I'm like, okay, 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.280 we got him at a bargain. We finally found some 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:38.120 players and then we we was It took us eight games. 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.920 You know, I know injuries allowed those guys to stay around, 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:45.480 guys learning the systems. A lot of those allowed those 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:51.440 guys say, but we cannot afford to have that type 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.840 of letdown coming in with a new coach. Just think 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:59.520 we got a new defensive coordinator putting in his attacking 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.920 skin of his variation of a four to three that 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.920 he wants his safeties are vital, and how he plays. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.320 He like an up and back guy. He liked guys 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.760 that can come up and go back. He liked intelligent 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.720 guys on his back end. So he's trying to bring 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.160 in a new culture, a new way, and you ain't 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:21.319 giving him nothing to drive. You're giving him Carlos Watkins, 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.320 I don't I don't know this kid, and I'm not 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.240 going to knock this kid. He may come in and 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:30.040 really advanced himself in his scheme, but he's a three 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:34.400 four tackle. That means he plays over the tackles. He 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.600 may not be used to playing over guards, even though 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.800 they say they move him down in the scheme. And 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:45.040 a reduced look. I understand that, but you know, and 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:48.040 they say, talking to Sheldon Rankings, They've talked to this guy, 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.439 They've talked to that guy. You know, we have to 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.760 give Dak a help in hand with the offense that 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.559 we have in place. And if and if our office 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.560 a coordinator has learned any thing from last year how 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:05.079 to dictate pace and how to help the game alone. Okay, 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.520 with Dak sitting on the bench for a whole year 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:11.680 learning and watching. I hope Tom Brady, I hope Drew Brees. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.280 I hope the great quarterbacks of league and watching how 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.679 they manipulate in touch and touch and help their off 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.680 their defenses and special teams. C J good when we 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:24.360 got back. Jordan Lewis, Jordan Lewis, you are a slot corner. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.720 Don't do nothing else slot corner for the next three years. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:32.200 Slot corner. You're in slot. Okay, So we go out 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.160 and get something better. Channing, you know him right, every 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.680 time Jordan Lewis trying to be more than a slot corner, 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.200 we have to see him on the same same man, 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.000 if we just do our job or manly speaking to myself, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:47.400 do your job. You got three years. Do your job. 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:54.840 So I'm serious, man, I know a woozier. More power 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.440 to you, bro, buy more power to you? All right? 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.880 Let me all right, you brought you asked me a 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.360 question without asking me a question, then you reiterated that 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.000 you really didn't ask me a question. So I'm just 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.000 gonna get my own, my own question back to you. Guys. 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.480 You're looking good at s. Thank you, thank you. I 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.920 like them. You are looking. You are looking good to 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.480 that you got the slip the blazer. You are looking 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:21.960 very very damn well. I'm on. I'm on the Cowboys 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.600 UK podcast this afternoon, so I had to get fixed 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.640 up for those guys. I had to dress up for 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.600 appreciate them having me on our friends across the pond. 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.000 So I don't know why they're having me on because 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.520 I don't really know anything, but you know, I'll get 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.320 on there. And but I asked you a question. Is 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:42.440 missus Jones right? It is the star Nate. Here's what 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.960 I think you have some You have the pieces right, 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.440 you have the pieces on even as bad as the 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:52.400 defense was, you have the piece you pieces is what 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:57.040 you have. You don't have any playmakers per se on defense? Right. 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.520 You could argue to Marcus Lawrence as a playmaker, do 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.640 you have a game changer on defense right now? I 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.760 don't think you have someone that can change a game. 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.800 And for the last several years, Brandon Carr is the 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:13.840 last guy that I can remember that they paid a 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.280 lot of money for that they brought in, right So, 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.480 they've been trying to get people on the cheap. They've 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.440 been trying to get guys in here and it hasn't worked. 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.480 They're trying to grow their own guys. I get that, Well, 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.680 you grow them and then when it comes time to 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:28.680 pay them, you let them walk out the door. So 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:32.960 I don't know what the philosophy is on defense. I 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.800 do think at some point, I don't think you can 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.680 roll into the season with what you have now and 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.080 hoping to fix it in the draft, because you know, 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.040 if a guy on defense comes in and he's if 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:48.040 he's great as a rookie, how often does that happen? 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.080 You need a year or two to develop. So if 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.200 you want this defense to be better this year than 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.800 what you're going to have to go spend money and 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.200 not do what you've done in the past and just 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.520 get guys in here. Because right now You've got guys 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:03.880 and and there's some of them that are better than others. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.040 They're not all bad, but as a unit, they were 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.359 bad last year. And you haven't changed anything. You you 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.639 you got a new deep snapper, you've you know, you 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.000 got rid of the punter, you signed what you know? Jordan. 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.439 We love Jordan, but you're right. Anytime he tries to 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.679 do anything outside of the slot. You hear him in 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:23.280 the in the after the game. I tried to do 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.199 too much. I tried to do this. You let Cheeto go. 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.919 What Cheeto was? You know? Cheeto was good? Was he great? 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.679 Not great? But he was good. He was he was 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.800 a piece. So I don't know how you are going 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:41.200 to get better unless you go unless you go get somebody. 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.199 And I guess that's my question to you guys. Do 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.040 you go spend or do they even have the money. 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.919 I'm not a salary cap guy, but do they have 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.920 the money to go get a Patrick Peterson or somebody 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.600 like that that's that's available that can change a game 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:57.960 for you. I don't know what they're I don't know 0:17:57.960 --> 0:17:59.840 what they're gonna do. Feel like we had this conversation 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.200 last year here, like Nate was saying Nate started, we 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.080 got a new division defensive coordinator, we got a new coaches, 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:07.879 we got to build the team, so he has some 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.360 players to work with. And then they brought in Haha, 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.840 Clinton Dix and Don Terry Poe and a bunch of 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:18.040 guys that didn't work out, and so so yeah, I 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.280 mean we're looking at a situation where I think it 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.359 sounds like we all kind of agree. Maybe I'm wrong 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.600 that instead of cherry picking all these little cheap guys 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.160 and and going maybe more for you got the cheap 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:33.280 guys now, yeah, and instead maybe it's instead of quality 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.520 or quantity. Instead of quality, they you know, quality and 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.320 maybe they get one or two a little bit more 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.439 on those I don't get you a badass. Yeah, And 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.480 I think the way that you know, I'm not a 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.840 Salary Cup guy either, but I think if they want 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.480 a guy, they can move things around and get it 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.680 and they know they've got you know, sary Cup is 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:53.359 going to take a huge jump in the coming years 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:55.479 with the TV, so they could probably work out you know, 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:57.920 lower hit this year, bigger hits later down the road. 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.439 So I think it can be done. But yeah, for 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:05.000 whatever reason, and as players, maybe you guys know why 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.080 why don't they spend the money or are they looking 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.560 at this like, well, Dak was Ourdac was our free 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.520 agent spending, and so now we're not gonna spend on 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:16.439 the defense. I don't know. Check this out, Check this out. Okay, 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.479 you got Antoine Woods, who will be back? He threatened 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:26.560 he'll be back. Nevelle Galimore, Neville Galimore student. Uh, Tristan Hill, 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:31.960 you gotta go with him. I messed up a name again. Okay. 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:36.879 I like the enthusiasm. You said, what what what? What? Okay, 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:42.679 I'm like, I'm like, coach Andrew, do something I learned. Yeah, 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:46.440 we got these three young guys, so we'll drafted and 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.920 and and if they can rotate and and hold up 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:52.080 with the new guy, Carlos Watkins, I bet you ain't 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:55.080 messing up his name. Uh, because he's done something in 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.040 the league on it. I don't know if the text 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:00.080 has done anything. He'd been in the the playoffs. Uh. If 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.679 you can take those four inside guys and work with 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:06.800 them now all of a sudden, this is what I believe, Jesse, 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.679 and this is what I need your help. If I 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.159 got if I think I have anything that's nice for 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:14.720 a front fold. I'm settling it out on the back ND. 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:18.480 I'm bringing corners, Go Lord in him. I'm bringing safetiess, 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.160 go Lord in him. Don't worry about the linebackers right now. 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:23.960 That's just that's just think. If we can get any 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:27.880 pressure up from our linebackers will be okay. Let's get 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.960 all the corners and safeties we can get and bring 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.440 them in here and let's flood up that back. That 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:37.000 That that's how competition titition all over the place where 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.720 every day we came in and say, well, lost these 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.080 job today because this guy played you better, this guy 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.600 practiced better. The competition is great and we all know 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.280 because see when you got great receivers as a whole 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:54.120 on our offense with dat back. Come on, Manna, you're 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:57.800 gonna know real quick. Why is that well No no 0:20:57.800 --> 0:20:59.280 no no no no no no, Hurt, no no no 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:01.479 no no no no no no no, Kurt no no 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:05.720 no no no no no no no no no no, Kurt, No, 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.119 don't do it, Kurt, don't do it because it sounds 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:14.560 so you when Nate is saying, it sounds so familiar, 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:20.480 it's like someone we all know that may do a 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:27.120 show with people. We all know, yes, sir said something, yes, 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.399 oh yes, right, I even cook my ribs in a 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:35.719 crop pot. Now let's go. And then they insult you. 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:39.200 Then they insult you. I did not insult you, man, 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:43.919 I did not insult you. The name, the name is 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:51.159 the name. It's like on the tip of my from 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.960 me sometime on Man, what are we saying, Shannon? What 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.920 are we saying Shannon? Nate? What is Nate saying? Shannon? 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:03.640 Please help me? Please help me, guy said a couple 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.359 of weeks ago, I thought you would be defensive line. 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:09.440 I thought you'd be Let's get some defensive tackles in. 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:13.480 This coach is a defensive line gurule. This coach made 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:18.399 his bread and butter helping defensive lineman at some point, 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:22.520 you know, I remember we had a cornerback safety issue 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:26.359 when we first started with coach Johnson. Well, you know what, 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:29.760 when it's so obvious what he did is he brought 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:33.479 in a hundred corners and safeties started at the beginning 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:36.119 the year through free agency, which was playing beep, and 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:40.600 then the draft. Sometimes if you think something is so bad, 0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:44.479 you gotta start somewhere fixing something. And why not just 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:47.040 fix all that secondary? Well, why not try to do 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:48.960 the best you can to bring in as many guys 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:53.040 you can that are competitive and that can play. Sorry, 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:55.800 do you want to do you want don't work? Do 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:57.800 you want to bring in you know h Do you 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:00.560 want to try to bring in one really stud cornerback 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:02.720 and pay that man you know a little bit more money? 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:06.560 Are you looking at you know another the second tier 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:08.879 guys or third tier guys and try to get on 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:11.440 You already got the rookie from Bama. You got the 0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:13.760