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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Thursday,
Speaker 1: eleven thirty eight m Central Time. And that can mean
Speaker 1: only one thing. We are back. We are hanging with
Speaker 1: the boys. Jesse Holly, Nate Newton, Shannon Gross, Kurt Daniels.
Speaker 1: You are looking live at Tostito's Championship Plaza at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. It is a brisk fifty degrees today,
Speaker 1: feels like forty four with the wind. The wind's kicking, man,
Speaker 1: the wind is kicking. We would like to thank Wingstop
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Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage for sponsoring this studio which Kurt. He is
Speaker 1: in studio. It's good to heyer Man, it's good to
Speaker 1: have you here. Kind of strange being back. He's still
Speaker 1: trying to kind of get my bearing. Yeah, we're behind
Speaker 1: the hockey glass here in the studio, but you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good. Yeah, it's good, it's good. But security know you, Kurt,
Speaker 1: Like when you walked in, the security was like, hey, Kurt,
Speaker 1: what's up? Year a long time, no see, and then
Speaker 1: you're gonna cost it like like Pat Union. Then when
Speaker 1: he went back into the guard now quite like I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out I'm trying to figure out your level.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out your level of celebrity. At
Speaker 1: the start of his clout in the building, trying to
Speaker 1: figure that out. Yeah, I'm trying to see that. You know,
Speaker 1: the security give you kind of a little tip of
Speaker 1: the capitol head. And I like what Kurt was good.
Speaker 1: Security had no clue who I was, and I had
Speaker 1: no clue. He just wanted he just wanted you to
Speaker 1: your QR code and take your Temperature's very nice. He's
Speaker 1: a very nice guy, very nice. Yes, it's very nice.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing there's been some turnover here since I've last
Speaker 1: been in the building, So no, I did not know
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Speaker 1: with donuts, but if any of you got Nate I
Speaker 1: know you're a big coffee guy. I know you don't
Speaker 1: like cold coffee. Dude like coffee. You like hot coffee, right, Nate,
Speaker 1: I drank coffee. Man. Y'all y'all always hit me slurping
Speaker 1: on the show. And then you know when I do
Speaker 1: that to mister Jesse begetting that coffee, I thought it
Speaker 1: was Simmons, mister Jones, you know, yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: thought it was you know you you you know you're
Speaker 1: sixteen and knowing it. I thought you was over there,
Speaker 1: you know, just trying to make sure you was still
Speaker 1: in good famous on mister Jones. He mister sixteen and
Speaker 1: old you drink you know. Lets you know, I'm whipped
Speaker 1: dunk away and uh, I'm just upset this morning. So
Speaker 1: before before we go down this road, before we talk
Speaker 1: about hang on before, thank you, Duncan. We really appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. We're gonna separate little dude. We're gonna separate
Speaker 1: you from this conversation because angry Nate ain't from a
Speaker 1: fat black man who's angry. All right, thank you, Duncan. Now, Nate,
Speaker 1: tell us what are you angry about today? Every time
Speaker 1: I go a guess the grain and these coats ideas
Speaker 1: for the day. I get stuff like these people wrote.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys need to focus on leadership. They need to
Speaker 1: not worry about it if a player good or bad,
Speaker 1: or whether he can play or not, but he can
Speaker 1: come in and right roll us. Come on, fellas, Come on,
Speaker 1: man for whoever wrote this and it's a dm end
Speaker 1: and I know who it is. Come on, man, you
Speaker 1: need players that can play with leadership skills. And I
Speaker 1: hate to jump the gun, Kurt, and I know this
Speaker 1: is your your segment. I that uh that, Jesse, would
Speaker 1: you like a guy that's old is the cript that
Speaker 1: can't play to say? Not like this? You need to
Speaker 1: run this route like that? Well, sir, can you get
Speaker 1: out of here and show me? Well my better day
Speaker 1: has done pass? Come on? But leadership, I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of good leaders in their young That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying them. But but I'm saying is you're not
Speaker 1: gonna go pay some twenty five year old that can't play.
Speaker 1: You've nine time my teen. You're gonna play from thirty
Speaker 1: year old or thirty one year old that can play
Speaker 1: or that it has had great success, and that's who
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay. An older guy for this leadership ability,
Speaker 1: you know, but why not get that guy that's like
Speaker 1: twenty seven, that has some got some great skills, you know,
Speaker 1: because I'm with you, Jesse, and you got on your
Speaker 1: your your final full uniform now and there's come home.
Speaker 1: Because the Cowboys don't want to sign no free agents.
Speaker 1: I told y'all four months ago we're talking about how
Speaker 1: bad this defense is, and now here today we're free
Speaker 1: ext an all time favorite pitch on five and we
Speaker 1: went out and get Carlos Watkins a fourth round pick.
Speaker 1: The texts, don't forget the deeper we got three, don't
Speaker 1: forget the deep snoop, maybe they got good leadership. Who yeah,
Speaker 1: leadership for watching, for watching? Uh for watching the other kid?
Speaker 1: J J. Watts leaving get paid in full, that's the leadership.
Speaker 1: If we we're gonna pay somebody, let's pay him. Let's
Speaker 1: pay him. That You do take some of that into
Speaker 1: account though, right, I mean, you want guys that can
Speaker 1: help build your culture or does it not matter? Does
Speaker 1: winning build the culture? And you just need a player.
Speaker 1: This is not basketball where you can go get a
Speaker 1: guy who's smart enough, who's up in age, that can
Speaker 1: still play and be on the court and not totally
Speaker 1: mess up the game. We we got got we got
Speaker 1: such a big and strong need on our on our
Speaker 1: defense too. If you don't have the right guy out
Speaker 1: there showing his abilities and his wares of what to do,
Speaker 1: you you you're spending your wheels. You players make plays,
Speaker 1: just another guy is cheering on the sideline, waiting to
Speaker 1: be traded and waiting to be shifted out of here.
Speaker 1: But I'm being honest. Now, Well, since we're here kind
Speaker 1: of talking about the culture and players and all that,
Speaker 1: I mean, have you ever seen we talk about building
Speaker 1: a good culture, but have you ever seen a team
Speaker 1: that had a good culture but didn't win? Is it
Speaker 1: kind of a chicken or the egg cut thing where
Speaker 1: if you want a good culture you have to win? No? No,
Speaker 1: if you if you got the right culture. I've seen
Speaker 1: good teams who reached their peak and can't go any further.
Speaker 1: And I'll say two years ago to Bears, they had
Speaker 1: a good team with a good culture, and they got
Speaker 1: as far as their quarterbacks stopped them. You get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You know, so the Bears. Yes, you know,
Speaker 1: I've seen teams that have had good cultures and trying
Speaker 1: to go in the right direction, but they had a
Speaker 1: key player that stopped them, either through injury or through
Speaker 1: his inability to take his team over the top. So yeah,
Speaker 1: culture is something that you live, something that you breathe,
Speaker 1: and something that you do. You cannot have one without
Speaker 1: the other, you know, because we as players, you can
Speaker 1: You can't be eighty five years old standing on the
Speaker 1: sideline and you can't be a half a player saying well, man,
Speaker 1: in my day when I played and I won my
Speaker 1: three Super Bowls, I'm telling you this is how we
Speaker 1: did it. I need to be coaching then so I
Speaker 1: can be on these guys every day. Coaches can help
Speaker 1: with that culture to day. Quinn can help with that culture. Coach.
Speaker 1: Coach McCarthy can help with that coaching, but he needs
Speaker 1: players that he can put in place to show up high.
Speaker 1: I would think they can drive, but they would they
Speaker 1: can't drive it. But you need You need to have
Speaker 1: something to drive. A nineteen sixty five beat of your
Speaker 1: bull ain't gonna make you. Gotta have something to drive.
Speaker 1: And I ain't talking about the Mansa ride. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about a big four f two fifty baby snatching everything
Speaker 1: out of the out of the wheels, locking up everything
Speaker 1: on all folds and scratching and going baby, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. So I said that Ford. I like
Speaker 1: that partner placement in there, Nate. That was good. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be sending out card gift
Speaker 1: cards like duncan send you gift cards. But they said
Speaker 1: Dion too, didn't they? Bro? They already looking out for
Speaker 1: d n you know, like shout outside, can't get him
Speaker 1: on the show? You think Duncan you want to dunk
Speaker 1: it donut card? We love dun if you like, can
Speaker 1: I get a partnership with Doc? Can I get one
Speaker 1: of those franchises? Yes? Jesse, Jesse, I'm concerned about you today.
Speaker 1: You have been extremely extreme. Are you just so focused
Speaker 1: on the game today that the UNC game that you
Speaker 1: just you mailing it in for the show. Nah, I
Speaker 1: don't really even play today. But I like what Nate
Speaker 1: get like this. I like it, I like I like
Speaker 1: I listen, I like I always tell you guys, a
Speaker 1: quiet pre show. Nate is an explosive end game show, Nate,
Speaker 1: So when you got so so so so, when your
Speaker 1: shooter is on fire, one of my ticket shots for
Speaker 1: let him feed him the rock. He he hit four
Speaker 1: or five threes in a row. So when they come
Speaker 1: out of the gate and say he upset, I sit back,
Speaker 1: I shut my mouth and I let the big gridgely go.
Speaker 1: I let him go. So wemas this I want you
Speaker 1: to answer this, Shannon okay if Kevin Sheraton said at
Speaker 1: the dm end wrote they need to stop trying to
Speaker 1: buy cheat quick fixes and free agency to fix the
Speaker 1: defense and invest the impact players. Like Jerry said, the owner,
Speaker 1: you get what you paid for it. Mister Jones said
Speaker 1: when he signed that anything that he has overpaid for,
Speaker 1: he's never been disappointed in when we've underpaid for a
Speaker 1: whole lot of things on defense lately and they have underperformed. So,
Speaker 1: like mister Jones said, we need to go out and
Speaker 1: get us some balls, some ball players on arm like that.
Speaker 1: Already put it, already put in my invoce for this month.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna so what's the question you said you
Speaker 1: have a question for me. You're gonna ask me something.
Speaker 1: The question is do you believe in what mister Jones saying?
Speaker 1: You pay for what you get? And who was a
Speaker 1: bigger fan than the defensive signings last year, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: we got him at a bargain. We finally found some
Speaker 1: players and then we we was It took us eight games.
Speaker 1: You know, I know injuries allowed those guys to stay around,
Speaker 1: guys learning the systems. A lot of those allowed those
Speaker 1: guys say, but we cannot afford to have that type
Speaker 1: of letdown coming in with a new coach. Just think
Speaker 1: we got a new defensive coordinator putting in his attacking
Speaker 1: skin of his variation of a four to three that
Speaker 1: he wants his safeties are vital, and how he plays.
Speaker 1: He like an up and back guy. He liked guys
Speaker 1: that can come up and go back. He liked intelligent
Speaker 1: guys on his back end. So he's trying to bring
Speaker 1: in a new culture, a new way, and you ain't
Speaker 1: giving him nothing to drive. You're giving him Carlos Watkins,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know this kid, and I'm not
Speaker 1: going to knock this kid. He may come in and
Speaker 1: really advanced himself in his scheme, but he's a three
Speaker 1: four tackle. That means he plays over the tackles. He
Speaker 1: may not be used to playing over guards, even though
Speaker 1: they say they move him down in the scheme. And
Speaker 1: a reduced look. I understand that, but you know, and
Speaker 1: they say, talking to Sheldon Rankings, They've talked to this guy,
Speaker 1: They've talked to that guy. You know, we have to
Speaker 1: give Dak a help in hand with the offense that
Speaker 1: we have in place. And if and if our office
Speaker 1: a coordinator has learned any thing from last year how
Speaker 1: to dictate pace and how to help the game alone. Okay,
Speaker 1: with Dak sitting on the bench for a whole year
Speaker 1: learning and watching. I hope Tom Brady, I hope Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: I hope the great quarterbacks of league and watching how
Speaker 1: they manipulate in touch and touch and help their off
Speaker 1: their defenses and special teams. C J good when we
Speaker 1: got back. Jordan Lewis, Jordan Lewis, you are a slot corner.
Speaker 1: Don't do nothing else slot corner for the next three years.
Speaker 1: Slot corner. You're in slot. Okay, So we go out
Speaker 1: and get something better. Channing, you know him right, every
Speaker 1: time Jordan Lewis trying to be more than a slot corner,
Speaker 1: we have to see him on the same same man,
Speaker 1: if we just do our job or manly speaking to myself,
Speaker 1: do your job. You got three years. Do your job.
Speaker 1: So I'm serious, man, I know a woozier. More power
Speaker 1: to you, bro, buy more power to you? All right?
Speaker 1: Let me all right, you brought you asked me a
Speaker 1: question without asking me a question, then you reiterated that
Speaker 1: you really didn't ask me a question. So I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna get my own, my own question back to you. Guys.
Speaker 1: You're looking good at s. Thank you, thank you. I
Speaker 1: like them. You are looking. You are looking good to
Speaker 1: that you got the slip the blazer. You are looking
Speaker 1: very very damn well. I'm on. I'm on the Cowboys
Speaker 1: UK podcast this afternoon, so I had to get fixed
Speaker 1: up for those guys. I had to dress up for
Speaker 1: appreciate them having me on our friends across the pond.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why they're having me on because
Speaker 1: I don't really know anything, but you know, I'll get
Speaker 1: on there. And but I asked you a question. Is
Speaker 1: missus Jones right? It is the star Nate. Here's what
Speaker 1: I think you have some You have the pieces right,
Speaker 1: you have the pieces on even as bad as the
Speaker 1: defense was, you have the piece you pieces is what
Speaker 1: you have. You don't have any playmakers per se on defense? Right.
Speaker 1: You could argue to Marcus Lawrence as a playmaker, do
Speaker 1: you have a game changer on defense right now? I
Speaker 1: don't think you have someone that can change a game.
Speaker 1: And for the last several years, Brandon Carr is the
Speaker 1: last guy that I can remember that they paid a
Speaker 1: lot of money for that they brought in, right So,
Speaker 1: they've been trying to get people on the cheap. They've
Speaker 1: been trying to get guys in here and it hasn't worked.
Speaker 1: They're trying to grow their own guys. I get that, Well,
Speaker 1: you grow them and then when it comes time to
Speaker 1: pay them, you let them walk out the door. So
Speaker 1: I don't know what the philosophy is on defense. I
Speaker 1: do think at some point, I don't think you can
Speaker 1: roll into the season with what you have now and
Speaker 1: hoping to fix it in the draft, because you know,
Speaker 1: if a guy on defense comes in and he's if
Speaker 1: he's great as a rookie, how often does that happen?
Speaker 1: You need a year or two to develop. So if
Speaker 1: you want this defense to be better this year than
Speaker 1: what you're going to have to go spend money and
Speaker 1: not do what you've done in the past and just
Speaker 1: get guys in here. Because right now You've got guys
Speaker 1: and and there's some of them that are better than others.
Speaker 1: They're not all bad, but as a unit, they were
Speaker 1: bad last year. And you haven't changed anything. You you
Speaker 1: you got a new deep snapper, you've you know, you
Speaker 1: got rid of the punter, you signed what you know? Jordan.
Speaker 1: We love Jordan, but you're right. Anytime he tries to
Speaker 1: do anything outside of the slot. You hear him in
Speaker 1: the in the after the game. I tried to do
Speaker 1: too much. I tried to do this. You let Cheeto go.
Speaker 1: What Cheeto was? You know? Cheeto was good? Was he great?
Speaker 1: Not great? But he was good. He was he was
Speaker 1: a piece. So I don't know how you are going
Speaker 1: to get better unless you go unless you go get somebody.
Speaker 1: And I guess that's my question to you guys. Do
Speaker 1: you go spend or do they even have the money.
Speaker 1: I'm not a salary cap guy, but do they have
Speaker 1: the money to go get a Patrick Peterson or somebody
Speaker 1: like that that's that's available that can change a game
Speaker 1: for you. I don't know what they're I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. Feel like we had this conversation
Speaker 1: last year here, like Nate was saying Nate started, we
Speaker 1: got a new division defensive coordinator, we got a new coaches,
Speaker 1: we got to build the team, so he has some
Speaker 1: players to work with. And then they brought in Haha,
Speaker 1: Clinton Dix and Don Terry Poe and a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys that didn't work out, and so so yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we're looking at a situation where I think it
Speaker 1: sounds like we all kind of agree. Maybe I'm wrong
Speaker 1: that instead of cherry picking all these little cheap guys
Speaker 1: and and going maybe more for you got the cheap
Speaker 1: guys now, yeah, and instead maybe it's instead of quality
Speaker 1: or quantity. Instead of quality, they you know, quality and
Speaker 1: maybe they get one or two a little bit more
Speaker 1: on those I don't get you a badass. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think the way that you know, I'm not a
Speaker 1: Salary Cup guy either, but I think if they want
Speaker 1: a guy, they can move things around and get it
Speaker 1: and they know they've got you know, sary Cup is
Speaker 1: going to take a huge jump in the coming years
Speaker 1: with the TV, so they could probably work out you know,
Speaker 1: lower hit this year, bigger hits later down the road.
Speaker 1: So I think it can be done. But yeah, for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, and as players, maybe you guys know why
Speaker 1: why don't they spend the money or are they looking
Speaker 1: at this like, well, Dak was Ourdac was our free
Speaker 1: agent spending, and so now we're not gonna spend on
Speaker 1: the defense. I don't know. Check this out, Check this out. Okay,
Speaker 1: you got Antoine Woods, who will be back? He threatened
Speaker 1: he'll be back. Nevelle Galimore, Neville Galimore student. Uh, Tristan Hill,
Speaker 1: you gotta go with him. I messed up a name again. Okay.
Speaker 1: I like the enthusiasm. You said, what what what? What? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, coach Andrew, do something I learned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got these three young guys, so we'll drafted and
Speaker 1: and and if they can rotate and and hold up
Speaker 1: with the new guy, Carlos Watkins, I bet you ain't
Speaker 1: messing up his name. Uh, because he's done something in
Speaker 1: the league on it. I don't know if the text
Speaker 1: has done anything. He'd been in the the playoffs. Uh. If
Speaker 1: you can take those four inside guys and work with
Speaker 1: them now all of a sudden, this is what I believe, Jesse,
Speaker 1: and this is what I need your help. If I
Speaker 1: got if I think I have anything that's nice for
Speaker 1: a front fold. I'm settling it out on the back ND.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing corners, Go Lord in him. I'm bringing safetiess,
Speaker 1: go Lord in him. Don't worry about the linebackers right now.
Speaker 1: That's just that's just think. If we can get any
Speaker 1: pressure up from our linebackers will be okay. Let's get
Speaker 1: all the corners and safeties we can get and bring
Speaker 1: them in here and let's flood up that back. That
Speaker 1: That that's how competition titition all over the place where
Speaker 1: every day we came in and say, well, lost these
Speaker 1: job today because this guy played you better, this guy
Speaker 1: practiced better. The competition is great and we all know
Speaker 1: because see when you got great receivers as a whole
Speaker 1: on our offense with dat back. Come on, Manna, you're
Speaker 1: gonna know real quick. Why is that well No no
Speaker 1: no no no no no no, Hurt, no no no
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no, Kurt no no
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no, Kurt, No,
Speaker 1: don't do it, Kurt, don't do it because it sounds
Speaker 1: so you when Nate is saying, it sounds so familiar,
Speaker 1: it's like someone we all know that may do a
Speaker 1: show with people. We all know, yes, sir said something, yes,
Speaker 1: oh yes, right, I even cook my ribs in a
Speaker 1: crop pot. Now let's go. And then they insult you.
Speaker 1: Then they insult you. I did not insult you, man,
Speaker 1: I did not insult you. The name, the name is
Speaker 1: the name. It's like on the tip of my from
Speaker 1: me sometime on Man, what are we saying, Shannon? What
Speaker 1: are we saying Shannon? Nate? What is Nate saying? Shannon?
Speaker 1: Please help me? Please help me, guy said a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, I thought you would be defensive line.
Speaker 1: I thought you'd be Let's get some defensive tackles in.
Speaker 1: This coach is a defensive line gurule. This coach made
Speaker 1: his bread and butter helping defensive lineman at some point,
Speaker 1: you know, I remember we had a cornerback safety issue
Speaker 1: when we first started with coach Johnson. Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: when it's so obvious what he did is he brought
Speaker 1: in a hundred corners and safeties started at the beginning
Speaker 1: the year through free agency, which was playing beep, and
Speaker 1: then the draft. Sometimes if you think something is so bad,
Speaker 1: you gotta start somewhere fixing something. And why not just
Speaker 1: fix all that secondary? Well, why not try to do
Speaker 1: the best you can to bring in as many guys
Speaker 1: you can that are competitive and that can play. Sorry,
Speaker 1: do you want to do you want don't work? Do
Speaker 1: you want to bring in you know h Do you
Speaker 1: want to try to bring in one really stud cornerback
Speaker 1: and pay that man you know a little bit more money?
Speaker 1: Are you looking at you know another the second tier
Speaker 1: guys or third tier guys and try to get on
Speaker 1: You already got the rookie from Bama. You got the
Speaker 1: rookie from Bama. You already said that Jordan Lewis is
Speaker 1: your slot. Now we need three more guys. You get
Speaker 1: one guy through free agency, don't don't don't be cheap
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, but you need a true starting cheap
Speaker 1: with him? Yeah, bring a bringing another true starter and
Speaker 1: give him some decent money. I don't know what decent
Speaker 1: money at this time with the cap dropping about eleven meal,
Speaker 1: I don't know what decent money is. But whatever it is,
Speaker 1: pay him that decent money. Bring them in here for
Speaker 1: a couple of years and draft every everything you can get,
Speaker 1: Touch everything you can get, because if you have a
Speaker 1: glaring need, but you know they have several on defense,
Speaker 1: but the defensive line. You gotta okay this this guy
Speaker 1: is a defensive guru. When he comes to defensive lineman,
Speaker 1: he's supposed to know how to get guy is going
Speaker 1: in the right direction. He's gonna have a rotation. Let's
Speaker 1: get going. You have to fix something. You have to
Speaker 1: fix something on this defense. You have to fix something.
Speaker 1: We can't go in the next year saying, Okay, we
Speaker 1: got a band aid in the secondary again. We got
Speaker 1: a band aid on the defensive line again. You know,
Speaker 1: And I don't know what's in the middle of the defense.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's in the middle of the defense.
Speaker 1: So you know what we're gonna do. You know what
Speaker 1: we're gonna fix. We go, We're gonna fix Jesse. We're
Speaker 1: gonna take a break, and we're gonna figure out what
Speaker 1: the hell is going on with you? Nothing wrong? He is,
Speaker 1: so like I think, you know, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: when you know, when you work with somebody and they
Speaker 1: just totally check out because they got something else lined up,
Speaker 1: and like and you know, something's going on, and and
Speaker 1: and then like three weeks later they're like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: I got another gig. And like I knew something was
Speaker 1: wrong with you because you was acting weird. You acting weird, Jesse,
Speaker 1: You're leaving us, You're cheating on us. No, No, we'll
Speaker 1: never do that, Never do that. We're gonna take a break.
Speaker 1: I just like, what's it when we getting Nate in
Speaker 1: a when we getting Nate in a talking groove, you
Speaker 1: gotta let them just It's like when Nate was up
Speaker 1: that was that pulling guard and he come around that corner. Listen,
Speaker 1: whatever was in his way, he was mowing down. Ain't
Speaker 1: got putting the brakes on. Ain't no putting the brakes on.
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Speaker 1: You want to talk about the tournament for a second.
Speaker 1: Jesse said, you're supporting your your your your team there.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the uh? How do you
Speaker 1: feel about their chances this year? Oh, I'm I'm I'm biased.
Speaker 1: I'm biased, but I'm honest. I mean, we're at a C.
Speaker 1: We're at EIGHTC right now that we start for freshmen.
Speaker 1: The tournament has been and will always be about the
Speaker 1: veteran teams. If you got a veteran team, especially veteran guards,
Speaker 1: you have a really good chance and winning the tournament.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's been a guard driven league and
Speaker 1: tournament for as long as you can remember, you know, Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean we got a chance, we got a chance
Speaker 1: to make some noise but we've been into two inconsistent
Speaker 1: all year long. Well, we'll have a game and we'll
Speaker 1: dominate and you know, we'll blow a team out and
Speaker 1: then we'll come back and we'll lose to a less
Speaker 1: superior team than us. Um, just because we have that
Speaker 1: we have that we have we have so uh that
Speaker 1: youthfulness about us and uh, you know, just it's gonna
Speaker 1: be fun. It's always fun to cheer on your team,
Speaker 1: uh during this time. So I'm just I'm just hoping
Speaker 1: that we we make it very good. I mean we'll
Speaker 1: get to like maybe the Elite eight. Yeah, have you
Speaker 1: ever y'all will go for jess from an eight? From
Speaker 1: an eight? Cs y'all going that far? You gotta worry
Speaker 1: about Wisconsin here? Wow, that's nice. Oh yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: got we're gonna shock the world. Well we'll beat wiscontent,
Speaker 1: then we'll shock the world and beat Baylor and then
Speaker 1: we'll move to like who made Chris got some bullets? Man,
Speaker 1: Bayla got some bullets? You're ready for that bullet ball?
Speaker 1: But that that's our like this year we've been I
Speaker 1: know when I say this gonna be like, oh, bring
Speaker 1: that back. But we're big inside, like we got some
Speaker 1: big boys inside. You know what I'm well in. We're
Speaker 1: big in the middle, So that's we welcome that I'm
Speaker 1: in the middle, Jesse, if you yeah, So since you
Speaker 1: glare No, I said that as the kind of game
Speaker 1: they want to play, you know, bully game that plays
Speaker 1: directly into what we're really, really, really good at. Uh.
Speaker 1: But you know most teams don't have the depth we
Speaker 1: we got about four six ten We got two seven
Speaker 1: footers and two six ten eleven guys, and so we
Speaker 1: can play that game. Have you been to any tournament
Speaker 1: game since you grab duated? Yes? Yeah? Is this like
Speaker 1: your favorite time of year watching the tournament? My last
Speaker 1: one that I was at that literally crushed me and
Speaker 1: I set in the stands for about two hours until
Speaker 1: they made me leave was when Villanova beat us in
Speaker 1: Houston at the Buzzer and in the championship game. I
Speaker 1: sat there for like two and a half three out
Speaker 1: after the game was over, just in disbelief, sir, trying
Speaker 1: to clean this row. Yeah, part of that that Michael
Speaker 1: in the state tournament. Let me guys, Oh, you talk
Speaker 1: about disappointment, let me he's better. I'm talking about this
Speaker 1: in that defense, go on that's a disappointment itself. So,
Speaker 1: like I told you guys last week, the Kingdom Collegiate
Speaker 1: Academy Cougars were going to the state championship game. Yes,
Speaker 1: on a Wednesday of last week, a cheerleader tested positive
Speaker 1: for COVID. Oh wow. On Thursday after our show, a
Speaker 1: player tested positive for COVID. The cheerleader was in the
Speaker 1: same class as the player. So in essence we had
Speaker 1: to not in essence and in actuality, we had to
Speaker 1: forfeit our position in the state championship game. And so
Speaker 1: we we we lost. We didn't even play it. The
Speaker 1: team that we beat that Tuesday by thirty five, they
Speaker 1: actually put them in our place. The game was in
Speaker 1: College Station and they got beat by thirteen to Cyprus,
Speaker 1: the Covenant School in Cyprus, and so Cyprus the Covenant
Speaker 1: School is the group won a tap state champion. It
Speaker 1: had been casey a but COVID and we haven't had
Speaker 1: a COVID issue and athletics all year long. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: I sorry to hear that. Sorry, I was so heartbroken
Speaker 1: for those boys. I was so heartbroken, Like it took
Speaker 1: me like two or three days to really kind of
Speaker 1: get out of the funk. Because the disappointment and just heartbreak.
Speaker 1: We had four seniors. Um, it was, it was tough.
Speaker 1: It was a tough tough tough pillars follow Um. But life,
Speaker 1: life is about learning things through adversity and through disappointment
Speaker 1: and through through through failure. And you know the goal
Speaker 1: is to hopefully learn something through this. I'm still trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what. But God to let things happen
Speaker 1: for for no reason. So now Nate, shout out to
Speaker 1: my boys. Came to Cleves Academy. Boys, yep, shout out.
Speaker 1: Sorry about that, Nate. I don't want to put words
Speaker 1: in your mouth, but you look like you found a
Speaker 1: little bit of joy in Jesse's misery. Why are you
Speaker 1: laughing and smiling? Oh? No, no, what? What? What? What
Speaker 1: I pray for jes What I pray for Jess is
Speaker 1: And I was kind of saying a little preyer was
Speaker 1: you know when something bad happened to Jess in life?
Speaker 1: You know, he going to two and three day funks
Speaker 1: at least two hours minimum. So he went into a
Speaker 1: three hours front behind Villa Novi went into a three
Speaker 1: day funk behind his team. Lord, don't letting him have
Speaker 1: to y'all on this show where this boy missed him
Speaker 1: ten dollars, because man, we may miss his dude for
Speaker 1: a month. So everybody, stay healthy, stay strong. Ny. You
Speaker 1: just reminded me about putting in those invoices. I put
Speaker 1: two months, three months. I need to go get that invoice,
Speaker 1: putting in for that. You know, you man, you know people,
Speaker 1: man through this bad time you have been. You know
Speaker 1: you're rich. Yeah, yeah, you know you're rich too. Whenever
Speaker 1: you just don't need money, you don't even need to invoice.
Speaker 1: You forget that when I know you forget to put invoice.
Speaker 1: Can't have money, Jess, you know Nate, how about you
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something? You get it, you get into
Speaker 1: the stop. Uh No, I don't have no brackets. I
Speaker 1: used to go with uh uh what's the voice of
Speaker 1: the Mavericks? Uh? Chuck Cooperstein his son used to do
Speaker 1: my brackets, and I love baby Chuck. We never got
Speaker 1: far and and then I tried to pick brackets. I
Speaker 1: even got even. Uh. I ain't going even as far
Speaker 1: as he would get me. He would least get me
Speaker 1: to the Elite eight with a few teams. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. I just I watch it and
Speaker 1: enjoy it because Florida and them, we don't even we
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing even being the playing game. So I
Speaker 1: don't know the joy that Jessin knows. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that, you guys know, Kurt, you know, but
Speaker 1: I don't go into a three day phone either. I
Speaker 1: still watch it. You know. I fell out a bracket,
Speaker 1: and I'm not a huge college basketball fan, so I'm
Speaker 1: not raading. You know what what you got on your
Speaker 1: first what you got, who you got? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm going to you Elite eight. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: haven't got done, haven't done my bracket. Yeah, I always
Speaker 1: got I've always been a Kansas fan, So I'll throw
Speaker 1: them in there somewhere. But they probably won't do very
Speaker 1: well this year. But okay, yeah, so you like Roy
Speaker 1: Williams too, then yeah, that's that's laughed. He abandoned, he
Speaker 1: came home, He came home. He came home. I will
Speaker 1: give you he went and he went to He did
Speaker 1: have a regame for going back. I came home. Let's
Speaker 1: get back on track. I let a stray, but we
Speaker 1: had to. We had to have a little bit of
Speaker 1: bracket talk. So Kurt, I get back Nate Let's go Nate.
Speaker 1: Let's get Nate going again. Let's get Nate going and
Speaker 1: arrested right down by blogging the boys with that. Last year,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup saw the fewest targets among him twenty five,
Speaker 1: Cooper fifty two, Lamb thirty seven. Without that Gallup eighty
Speaker 1: Who yeah, the eighty targets Cooper seventy eight Lambs Read that.
Speaker 1: Kurt read that, Kurt saying it is is there anything
Speaker 1: to this that in four of Deck's five games he
Speaker 1: actually targeted Lamb more and Gallop some more targets when
Speaker 1: Dak was out? Is this he maybe opened the door
Speaker 1: make you think, well, maybe they should use Gallop as
Speaker 1: a trade chip get some of those defensive guys you want.
Speaker 1: I'm actuallyuggesting that that's real. It's a good question, because
Speaker 1: here's how this thing plays out. When you're looking at
Speaker 1: the depth of receiver, Amari's your one, So a lot
Speaker 1: of times he's going to be the first option in
Speaker 1: a lot of the way you when you draw things up,
Speaker 1: and then the way that we run things now and
Speaker 1: this three wide receiver set ceedee, Lamb becomes your two. Really,
Speaker 1: and so when you're working in practice, when Dak is
Speaker 1: running with the ones. You're kind of you know, going
Speaker 1: through your first option. In your second option, you may
Speaker 1: actually get back to your third. But when coaches and
Speaker 1: players are in the rotation, Michael Gallup is going a
Speaker 1: lot with the second unit. It's not just wholesale, you know,
Speaker 1: take out the three guys and put a whole new
Speaker 1: three guys. And sometimes it is. But when you get
Speaker 1: into those live periods where that you know, Dak might
Speaker 1: come in and get a couple of plays, and then
Speaker 1: you know the backup quarterback comes in and get a
Speaker 1: couple of plays. It's the relationship between the backup quarterback
Speaker 1: and the receiver who isn't at the necessarily top, who
Speaker 1: is the guy that he probably works with the most.
Speaker 1: When that backup quarterback goes and get some of those
Speaker 1: scout reps a lot of times, you know, receiver three
Speaker 1: maybe in that mix sometimes because he wants to get
Speaker 1: some reps. So it's nothing to do with Dak is
Speaker 1: not looking at Michael Gallup or there's a piece that
Speaker 1: could be traded. It's all about the relationship. When the
Speaker 1: quarterback gets his reps and that receiver gets their reps.
Speaker 1: A lot of times when you see a backup quarterback
Speaker 1: come in, you see him start looking at you know,
Speaker 1: that number three wide receiver or that tight end because
Speaker 1: these are the guys that he most used to working
Speaker 1: with in this time during practice. So it's that relationship
Speaker 1: of comfortability and and realizing where he's going to be,
Speaker 1: how he likes the ball, and you want to kind
Speaker 1: of get some throws in. And then Michael Gallup also
Speaker 1: is one of those guys who's always running those deep routes,
Speaker 1: so on quarterback is new to coming in and trying
Speaker 1: to assess the defense, even though any Dalton may have
Speaker 1: come in with the with the knowledge of what he's seeing.
Speaker 1: When quarterbacks love to throw the faetball, I don't care
Speaker 1: what the quarterback. I don't care who the quarterback is.
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Johnny Manziel, I don't care
Speaker 1: if it's John Unitis. When a quarterback lines up and
Speaker 1: they see the opportunity to kind of give that that
Speaker 1: look and that wink to that fatball, they're taking it
Speaker 1: because chicks dig the long ball, right. It's like, so
Speaker 1: whether it's the home run or it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a you know, quarterbacks always want even when you're
Speaker 1: down and literally go ahead, go deep, go deep. Everybody
Speaker 1: wants to throw the fatball, and that's primarily what Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup would get. Michael, Yeah, Michael Gallup would get because
Speaker 1: covers will be slipped over and slanted over towards Amari
Speaker 1: and Uh and Ceedee Lamb and then on the backside
Speaker 1: by himself, the Z receiver, Michael Gallup, one on one
Speaker 1: covered safety in the middle of the field, let me
Speaker 1: go ahead and take more shots to the guy who's
Speaker 1: getting the less the least amount of coverage, looks Uh
Speaker 1: and I have one more one on one opportunities with
Speaker 1: him on the back side. So when you see the
Speaker 1: numbers in the and the and howards it played out
Speaker 1: for a quarterback to come in, I'm always going to
Speaker 1: go with the easy reads because I don't want to
Speaker 1: mess it up. I just want to go out here
Speaker 1: and make completions. When you look at what Dak is
Speaker 1: able to do, He's able to come in and really
Speaker 1: survey the field and take more chances at other guys.
Speaker 1: But in all that reality, Ceedee Lamb is better than
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop. Amari Cooper is better than Michael Gallop. Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup makes some big plays and he's he's a key
Speaker 1: component to your offense. But you know, if you're talking
Speaker 1: about trading him, now, you're talking about taking that missing
Speaker 1: peace away from what's been so cohesive of a unit.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you about it? No, you can't ask
Speaker 1: any questions. This is a practice related question. So you
Speaker 1: said that that, Uh, like, say Dak was working with
Speaker 1: with Amari and Lamb and then Dalton would come in
Speaker 1: and he'd work with Gallup and you know, Cedric Wilson
Speaker 1: or whatever. But when he gets in the game, he's
Speaker 1: got all those guys in there, two quarterbacks. I mean,
Speaker 1: I would think that, yeah, okay, he's throwing Gallop, he's
Speaker 1: throwing the deep slant or whatever to Gallup when he's there.
Speaker 1: But in the game, now Mari's running that. So I
Speaker 1: would think he would he would like routes better than players,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense to pay or something. It goes
Speaker 1: back to what is it? What is the coverage? Because
Speaker 1: as a backup, I just want to make completions. So
Speaker 1: when I look out there, where is the easiest throw
Speaker 1: for me? The easiest throw for me is backside with
Speaker 1: the Z receiver because the front side it has a
Speaker 1: slot and they're not respecting um uh uh swim or
Speaker 1: whoever they're respecting Ceedee Lamb and Amari Cooper on the
Speaker 1: front side, so everything is shifted over to the front
Speaker 1: side of the two by two set. When I go
Speaker 1: I look backside, I said, oh, there's there's Michael Gallup.
Speaker 1: I just want to get a completion. Why for shit
Speaker 1: in over here to Amari when I got the number
Speaker 1: three corner on my two B wide receiver, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take this throw all day long because I want to
Speaker 1: get completions. And then once I get into a rhythm,
Speaker 1: now I can kind of start working so all of
Speaker 1: those other tighter windows over here with Gallop, I mean
Speaker 1: with a Lamb and Amari Cooper. So for a quarterback,
Speaker 1: especially at backup quarterback, I just want to come in
Speaker 1: and get completions. I just want to get the ball
Speaker 1: matriculating down the field. So I'm gonna take the easiest
Speaker 1: throw that I can get. When I look at how
Speaker 1: it is based on coverage, Michael Gallup is the one
Speaker 1: that kind of gives me the best throw on any
Speaker 1: particular down because I have Amari Cooper and c and
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb almost always to the same side. Nate, you know, Jess,
Speaker 1: you know I asked this question, man, and I asked
Speaker 1: it a lot a lot of times. Man, how do
Speaker 1: how do our offensive coordinating? And maybe I should ask
Speaker 1: it in this question? Is Formar is our best wide receiver?
Speaker 1: Why do we don't have him in better positions as
Speaker 1: the game go on so he can be more successful
Speaker 1: as the game go on? Because you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's Hopkins and I'm not saying he's other elite
Speaker 1: guys on other teams, But how do these guys wound
Speaker 1: up with a hundred and something catches a year, twelve
Speaker 1: or thirteen, fourteen hundred yards and eighteen thousand TVs? I mean,
Speaker 1: how do they do it? And they don't have nearly
Speaker 1: the complimentary receivers that we have. Well, you're just answering
Speaker 1: the question right there. And I wonder if your question
Speaker 1: is the answer to duck question. They don't have the
Speaker 1: complimentary receiver. So quarterback are are forced to give the
Speaker 1: ball to DeAndre Hopkins two hundred times a year because
Speaker 1: Will Fuller's always hurt and none the guy's always hurt
Speaker 1: or he drops the ball. So again, as a quarterback,
Speaker 1: especially when I'm in those third down situations, I'm looking
Speaker 1: for the guy who I know is going to give
Speaker 1: me a very high percent of bringing the ball in
Speaker 1: for completion, even if he's double covered. So when you
Speaker 1: look at other guys like Hopkins, when you look at
Speaker 1: a guy like you know, Antonio Brown, he was in
Speaker 1: his prime, he's saying, these guys are pulling down one
Speaker 1: hundred cat seasons. None of them really have a complimentary
Speaker 1: receiver like you've had and Michael Gallup or now that
Speaker 1: you have in year two coming in with Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: and and and that's the that's the gift and the
Speaker 1: curse about having the offense that the Dallas Cowboys have
Speaker 1: because you run, you run this risk of and this
Speaker 1: is this is the part where Kellen Moore needs to
Speaker 1: continue to grow and mature. And this thing is magic
Speaker 1: running to the sideline and every single time you on things,
Speaker 1: he could say he wants the ball more. You don't
Speaker 1: think Amari, as quiet as we can say, Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: is he asked us for the football. Trust me. You
Speaker 1: don't think CD is not saying that he wants the football.
Speaker 1: You don't think Michael saying he wants the football. You paid,
Speaker 1: you pay the tight end. You don't think he's Everyone
Speaker 1: wants the football, And so I understand that, my brother,
Speaker 1: But you know what, he should get it. Those two
Speaker 1: first guys you name, they should get it. And big
Speaker 1: time situations, in big time situations, they should get it.
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin got it and miss Smith got it. They
Speaker 1: should get it. And there are more powerful offense than us.
Speaker 1: Player for player, there are more powerful offense than us.
Speaker 1: You know, we had Alvin Hopper, who was a nice receiver.
Speaker 1: We had Kevin Martin who was a hell of a
Speaker 1: slot receiver. But when it came time for big players,
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin lined up and got the rock. And I
Speaker 1: think that amar should line up and get the rock
Speaker 1: if he everything that you said eight years I got
Speaker 1: to believe you, Jesse, you are the gospel that he
Speaker 1: should get it. I'm with you. But I mean, there
Speaker 1: were there were situations where we had a Maria Cooper
Speaker 1: on the sidelines last year. Michael never would have never
Speaker 1: let that happen. Like imagine, imagine Michael, imagine it's a
Speaker 1: third down in the fourth quarter, or it's a fourth
Speaker 1: down in the fourth quarter, and anyone with a voice
Speaker 1: tells Michael Irvin, hey, eight double eights, come to the sideline.
Speaker 1: Now we're throwing the past, but I need you to
Speaker 1: come out of the game. What he would have had
Speaker 1: he would have had a connection on the football field.
Speaker 1: So you said, you say we should give him Maria
Speaker 1: the ball in these situations. But we've seen on countless
Speaker 1: amount of times someone on the sideline said hey, or
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the sideline or so Marie,
Speaker 1: someone sayd hey, nineteen, come over here, sit with us
Speaker 1: for a second. Let Noah Brown go on there and
Speaker 1: run this reverse, or let someone so go ahead and
Speaker 1: run this past play on fourth down in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter in a in a divisional game. That doesn't happen
Speaker 1: with Michael Irvin. You think it's you think third and one,
Speaker 1: fourth and one. You're gonna say, hey, Emmett, come here,
Speaker 1: let Troy Hambrick run this one. No, not you. You
Speaker 1: were standing up in the huddle. If you were in
Speaker 1: the huddle on fourth and one and you saw you
Speaker 1: you saw what's your boy name who played running back
Speaker 1: at Alabama, um uh Sherman Sherman, and you saw him
Speaker 1: run to the time I say, Emmy, come on you wrout,
Speaker 1: you out. You're saying, what the hell y'all doing? It's
Speaker 1: fourth and one in a play in a divisional game
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Speaker 1: the time is right, let's go see Geek back hanging
Speaker 1: with the boys back And I don't have my live
Speaker 1: reads pulled up again, so you know what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna I'll do the live read in a minute.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you guys, or actually I
Speaker 1: have an opinion, and I want to know y'all's feedback
Speaker 1: on this opinion because I haven't really heard a lot
Speaker 1: of people talk about it. With Washington signing Ryan Fitzpatrick,
Speaker 1: I think that's a problem. I think that's a big,
Speaker 1: big problem in this division because Fitzpatrick can throw you
Speaker 1: into games, he can throw you out of the games.
Speaker 1: But one thing he has always done is he has
Speaker 1: moved the football. And I think you you couple him
Speaker 1: with the defense that they have that can get that
Speaker 1: can keep you in games when you make mistakes. I
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a huge problem him. I
Speaker 1: think the signing of him and he's gonna be their
Speaker 1: stop gap quarterback. They've got to get it. They've got
Speaker 1: to get a young guy in there. He's got a
Speaker 1: tutor them for ten years, but he's always done a
Speaker 1: great job, right, and he's good at mentoring younger guys.
Speaker 1: And they're probably gonna maybe draft a guy or get
Speaker 1: a younger guy, And there's not gonna be any doubt
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the guy this year. But there's not
Speaker 1: gonna be this quarterback controversy because you know, he's not
Speaker 1: the long term guy. But I think for this year,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a huge problem. And I haven't heard
Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about that. I think with
Speaker 1: that signing man, they they they're the team to beat
Speaker 1: in this division. Now. I think I think that's that's
Speaker 1: who is gonna be there at the end. Usually it's
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Eagles. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Washington and Cowboys or whoever. But I just want to
Speaker 1: get y'all's feedback because I haven't heard a lot of
Speaker 1: people talk about that. I think it's a problem, huge,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think so no no said
Speaker 1: to get Kurt s get Kurt. Might have been might
Speaker 1: have been Jesse last week he said, Curry, he's just
Speaker 1: racking about today. He's look at it. He's just not
Speaker 1: gonna let Kurt talk. Man. I think Curt we Jesse's
Speaker 1: a better team because of the defense. Now, Curtis, go ahead,
Speaker 1: and you know right, call on God God, Amen corner.
Speaker 1: They needed a quarter Kurt, like like she had just said,
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick and he can win you some games. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a Curtis. You got faith. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys have to stop interrupting Kurt when he's making great
Speaker 1: I did not interrupt Kurt. I go ahead on Kurt
Speaker 1: talking point. Amen, go ahead. What do you got Amen?
Speaker 1: What do you have? An? I was that was the
Speaker 1: last thing I was gonna bring up and shouting a
Speaker 1: great job. Great job for taking it and running with it, Jesse,
Speaker 1: great job because you said last week that if they
Speaker 1: get a quarterback, this could be an ugly situation. Amen
Speaker 1: to you Kurt for going along and amen them smote.
Speaker 1: They went out and they got they went out and
Speaker 1: they got one of Rome River. But and Kurt Samuel's
Speaker 1: they you at him? Now? Oh, Jesse froze up on us.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Nate back, I'm back. I'm I'm let me
Speaker 1: say this right quick, like Jess, Let's say this right
Speaker 1: quick life. Do you agree that Chris Passon This is
Speaker 1: why I'm even more scared now because he has become
Speaker 1: he's becoming a better and more consistent quarterback. When he
Speaker 1: went to Miami, he was a little bit better than
Speaker 1: he was in the last place. Now, don't go ahead
Speaker 1: on Jess. I'm with you all the way. The thing is,
Speaker 1: he's playing with house money wherever he goals like everything
Speaker 1: that he does. He's not playing for a contract. He's
Speaker 1: not playing for longevity. He's playing right now to just
Speaker 1: kick but every single week, and when when you play
Speaker 1: when you can play that care free, and sometimes he
Speaker 1: plays careless. But he is more than a capbook quarterback.
Speaker 1: There is not a defense he has not seen. Think
Speaker 1: about that for a second. He's gonna leave for seventeen seasons.
Speaker 1: There is nothing that you can put on the field
Speaker 1: as far as coverages or anything like that that that
Speaker 1: that Fitch Magic has not seen. And you give him
Speaker 1: a weapon like Scary Terry who can tear you up
Speaker 1: and route running and who can blaze you down the field,
Speaker 1: you add Curtis same to the mix. They had the
Speaker 1: title last year. Thomas, he's gonna he's gonna improve this year.
Speaker 1: You have the running backs out of the Blackfield Gibson
Speaker 1: they have. It reminds me of a much more souped
Speaker 1: up type of Baltimore Ravens. When they have u Delfer
Speaker 1: as the quarterback, his job is going to be, Hey,
Speaker 1: fitz Magic, can you go to get his seventeen points
Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty points? Because if you can do that,
Speaker 1: we have enough with this defense, especially now that the
Speaker 1: young guy they had last year got in the year.
Speaker 1: Chase Young has another year, the year under his belt,
Speaker 1: he'll be able to come back, have a true offseason,
Speaker 1: have more time in the in the in the nuances
Speaker 1: of the defense, while the though won't be battling and
Speaker 1: going any out of chemo and battling that situation they
Speaker 1: had to bottle last year. Thank god that he is okay.
Speaker 1: But now everything is full bolt and full goal for
Speaker 1: that defense that was already top five last year, and
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna add some more pieces to it this
Speaker 1: year because they've been active and free agency to address
Speaker 1: some of the news that they had Offensively so to
Speaker 1: curse point is that this Washington's football team has become
Speaker 1: very and I'm not saying that they are Super Bowl contenders.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is they have become scary players in
Speaker 1: winning this division. And so now when you're talking about
Speaker 1: not winning your division or having a serious competition in
Speaker 1: your division with when you look at when you look
Speaker 1: at the rest of the NFC, uh, San fran has
Speaker 1: gotten better, Saint Los Angeles Rams have gotten better, the
Speaker 1: Cargos have gotten better. I don't know that will happen
Speaker 1: in Seattle, but if Russell Wilson comes back, you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta assume that that team is going to be
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Uh, and somebody start look at you,
Speaker 1: start looking around me. Tampa Bay is gonna be better.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you know. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the Saints are gonna be, but that what I say
Speaker 1: about to say. If you don't win the division, now
Speaker 1: you have to start finding places where you can fit in.
Speaker 1: Minnesota's gonna be good, Green Bear is gonna be good.
Speaker 1: Where will the Cowboys fit in to finding themselves in
Speaker 1: the playoff picture? If you don't win the vision, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm coming back. That's what it comes down to
Speaker 1: is how can I find myself if you're telling me
Speaker 1: that I won't get the automatic breath of winning the
Speaker 1: division into the playoffs and that I may now have
Speaker 1: to go into some sort of wild card scenario. I'm
Speaker 1: looking around the league and I'm saying, woolf, this NFC
Speaker 1: is loaded across the board, and I don't know where
Speaker 1: you'll fit into the equation of potentially getting into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And if if not, now I got a game in
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and face that juggernaut of the football team
Speaker 1: on the road in week one, you know, week one
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. So if it becomes a very scary
Speaker 1: situation what the Washington football team is doing and they
Speaker 1: got a quarterback that again Wing Fitzpatrick is not going
Speaker 1: to take you to the super Bowl, but he's going
Speaker 1: to make you super competitive weekend and week out. And
Speaker 1: with that defense, he doesn't have to do as much
Speaker 1: on the offensive and to carry a game, he just can't.
Speaker 1: He just can't lose it on more occasions than he wins.
Speaker 1: In Wow, J just signed another cornerback too, that William
Speaker 1: Jackson that Pro Football focused on him as a top
Speaker 1: twenty cornerbacks better and uh and and Kurt and Jesse
Speaker 1: that the church say, Hey, it took it took us
Speaker 1: fifty fifty about fifty three minutes to get him going,
Speaker 1: but you couldn't. I was gonna get to him. You never.
Speaker 1: Once he got going, you could not stop him. He
Speaker 1: cranked the law. I another one, another one, Bart and
Speaker 1: tuning him like you know what, I don't this This
Speaker 1: shows this show is like an NBA game. You really
Speaker 1: don't need to watch the first ninety percent of it.
Speaker 1: You can just tune in for the very last, probably
Speaker 1: ten minutes of the show. And that's where all your
Speaker 1: money is made, is the Latin, because the show goes
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Speaker 1: did you enjoy your corner? Because the time's up? No,
Speaker 1: it's great. I love this. Come you want to go?
Speaker 1: You want to I don't need a corner. I'm I'm amen,
Speaker 1: quarter you want to go? Grab. All you gotta do
Speaker 1: is just get his get his preach. God, just stroke
Speaker 1: his preach. You put them to change in a He
Speaker 1: looked up and he'll go to and screen. Let's let's
Speaker 1: go grab some munch, Kurt. Let's I'm made sure I
Speaker 1: take care of Kurt on the side. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying about. Are they tied to me? I take
Speaker 1: care of Kurt on the side. Yeah, Ny, Good Sceny, Jesse, Jesse.
Speaker 1: Good luck to your tar heels. Hopefully there's still playing
Speaker 1: next goal when we have the show Thursday, because if not,
Speaker 1: we ain't coming to get you off the porch, so
Speaker 1: we might have to do the show without you if
Speaker 1: they don't pay in there. So, Chris, thanks for keeping
Speaker 1: us on the air, keeping things going. Kurt. Good to
Speaker 1: see your face in person again, simp up through the glass.
Speaker 1: All right, fellas, we'll be back next Thursday, same time,
Speaker 1: same place. Tell your mothers, fathers and all y'all. We
Speaker 1: say hello. Now we tell you my dad ain't here.
Speaker 1: Oh there you go. Now now now I'm let me down,
Speaker 1: get out. He ain't come back, he ain't here. This
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