1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Comedy Saved Me. Welcome to Comedy Saved Me, the show 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: where laughter isn't just fun, it's survival. I'm your host, 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Lynn Hoffman, and today we are unpacking the magic behind 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: the mic, how comedy may not only make us laugh, 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: but helps us heal, grow, and reclaim our lives. My 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: guest today I'm so grateful, is Dave Landau, a comedian 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: who has transformed life's toughest moments into stories that connect, inspire, 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: and remind us all that humor can be a true lifeline. 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: We are so excited to have you here on the show, Dave, 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: and I know we've had a couple of hits and 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: missus trying to catch each other. So thank you for 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: carving out some time for us today. 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: Oh thank you for having me. I appreciate it all right. 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: Well, on that note, we had to take a quick 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: commercial break. 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: Right, I'll see you later. 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: I'll be right back. Please don't go anywhere. We've tried 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: this four times. I've got them. I've got them. I'm 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: going to strap him in and you strap in and 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: maybe you can get like a a snack or something, 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: and we're just going to play some commercials for that. 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: We're grateful for them so that we can do the show. 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: We'll be right back Comedy Saved Me. Welcome back. My 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: guest on Comedy Save Me, Dave Landaut Dave. Many of 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: our listeners turned to comedy as a way of coping 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: with pain. I myself am included in that. When did 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: you first realize that comedy was more than just an escape, 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: that it actually healed people? 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: Boy, that's a good question. I don't know if I 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,919 Speaker 2: guess when I realized that my comedy may have helped people, 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: Like I've put out a book and I've done a 32 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: lot of shows for recovery groups. So to have people 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 2: come up and say I got sober because of something 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: you said, I mean, comedy was always a defense mechanism 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: for me, even since I was a little kid. So 36 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: a lot of my escapism was into even watching stand 37 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: up or sketch shows or whatever it was. So I 38 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: think that at a young age, I guess I figured 39 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: that humor was a good way out. 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: Who were some of your favorites. When you say a 41 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: young age, I'm seeing you look young to me, I'm 42 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: thinking Saturday Night Live kind. 43 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: Of era SNL nineties era. Yeah, but also you know, 44 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: like prior Eddie Murphy, Yes, Joan Rivers, Ronnie Dangerfield, like 45 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: a lot of the old albums. My dad had Bob Newhart, 46 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: so I had a bunch of ones that I like, 47 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 2: would look back on and like at the current time. 48 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: I loved obviously, which was nineties SNL, Second City and 49 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: that stuff. 50 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: The best, the best. You know, you've spoken a lot 51 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: during my research. I've noticed that you've been very open 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: about your journey through addiction and struggles. How has comedy 53 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: help do you personally process and transform those difficult experiences. 54 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: Well, it's allowed me to actually tell the story of 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: my life in a funny way because like thirteen arrests 56 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: and you know, drug addiction cannot always be the most fun. 57 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say can't always be the most fun, Like 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: sometimes it's really good thing and benefits everyone. Well, sometimes 59 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: it's fun, but I don't recommend it, is what I'm saying. 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 2: But I think the more honest you get on stage, 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: the more people connect with you on an actual personal level, 62 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: Like you're able to kind of reach more people. So 63 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: the ability to be able to do that now and 64 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: like it used to, being honest was really something that 65 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: I don't know It helped me out because I can 66 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: just make jokes about whatever is dark and just kind 67 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: of mind that for material. 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: Do you when you're on stage? I'm just curious do 69 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: you see their faces? I mean sometimes the lights are 70 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: pretty bright and you can't. I mean, you can get 71 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: a feel for you know, audible things and stuff, but 72 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: do you see when you've really connected with an audience 73 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: and does that sort of give you more inspiration? 74 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, especially with the right crowd. And then sometimes 75 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: you see the opposite where like last weekend, a really 76 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: drunk guy stood up and was trying to get out 77 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: of the room to go to the bathroom, and he 78 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: just face planted right into a wall and I was like, oh, 79 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: there's a reminder why I don't drink anymore. So yeah, 80 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: it goes both ways. It was fun. It really was loud. 81 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: I don't I think he's hurt today or has internal bleeding, 82 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: but I think he play gamed in the parking lot, 83 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: so it's all on him. 84 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: So I wish people could see your face right now 85 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: because he's got a huge smile. I mean the guy. 86 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: I don't think the guy's really hurt. Is he uh 87 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: maybe stitches maybe? 88 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: Or maybe I don't think it was stitches. He seemed. 89 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like he It was not the first 90 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: time he got drunk and smashed his head into a wall. 91 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: I promise I would say even that day. Wow. Yeah, 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: so but yeah, when you do connect with somebody or 93 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: you realize somebody is there for you, it's an amazing thing. 94 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: And lately I put out a book and people are 95 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: actually showing up with the book to get signed. And 96 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: that's kind of exciting because you know, if we're spending 97 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: five years in high school and not really being on 98 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: a path of educational promise, it's cool that life education 99 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: life education, as they say, the street smarts, which means 100 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: I can get you an eight ball of coke, but 101 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: I can't do long division. You are the challenges exactly. 102 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing, though. What is the name of your 103 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: book and what could one find when one reads your book? 104 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: It's called A Party of One, a Fuzzy Memoir, and 105 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: it's available on Amazon dot com. The audible is coming 106 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: out soon. 107 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: And what like what it made you decide you had 108 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: to write a book and comedy wasn't enough. You wanted 109 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: to really just etch it in writing forever. 110 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: Five years ago when COVID happened, I needed an outlet. 111 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: So I wrote my story of my teen years into 112 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: my adulthood years and what got me sober and of 113 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: all my different arrests. And it took me about five 114 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: years to actually have the guts to put it out 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: and ask everybody who's in it, like, hey, Brian, I 116 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: changed your name to Ryan. That's cool, right, Like just 117 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: little things in it were very obvious, people receptive. Yeah, 118 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 2: everybody was really supportive. I was worried they wouldn't be, 119 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: and fortunately all my friends were very very cool about it. 120 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: That's so cool. I've often toyed with doing that myself 121 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: because I've had friends who said, you know, you can 122 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: always change people's names, and I thought, nah, I'd rather 123 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: wait until everyone's gone. Yeah, I think I'm so healthy. 124 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to outlive everybody, and then I can tell 125 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: the story. 126 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: Right, what's said is that I have, but yeah, it's 127 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: it is. I think it's worth it. And then if 128 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: they do say yes, make sure the name is as 129 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: close as possible so they regret saying yes. For your interviews. 130 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: I like that. 131 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: Wow, And the response obviously has been really good on 132 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: the book. 133 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it hit number one on Amazon for a 134 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: second and still selling, and yeah, it was really cool 135 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: that it's done as well as it has well. 136 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: Congratulations Dave. That's really cool. 137 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. 138 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: That's a big deal because I'm guessing you put it 139 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: out there not only to help yourself, but to help 140 00:06:59,240 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: those who are reading it. 141 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people have come to my shows 142 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: because at some point I will discuss sobriety and just 143 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: tell some stories from when I was younger, and like 144 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: a lot of people wanted to hear more about that. 145 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: So what I did was it's kind of like a 146 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: fifth step, a fifth step put into I don't know, 147 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: into a book. I guess, you know, it's just something 148 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: that I had to work out, and I and stories 149 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: that I was already doing in my act. So and 150 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: not all of them, I mean most of them I 151 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: hadn't talked about. And that's I guess the word is 152 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 2: cathartic anybody would use. But it was nice to take 153 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: like the darkest things that I didn't want to share 154 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: and then just share them because there's something I don't 155 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: know that like gives you power that you feel like 156 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: you've lost or when you've become powerless to. 157 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: Something that's so true. Can you share a little teaser 158 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: with our audience? 159 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: Oh, well, those stories, she's one. I want to make 160 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: it a fun one, because a lot of them aren't. Oh. 161 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: I was, my friends and I were slowly robbing a 162 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: pharmacy that we were working ass. No, I shouldn't say 163 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: robbing like it was a big deal, but this was, well, 164 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: it was a big deal. But this was during the 165 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: nineties where it was right before the opioid boom, where 166 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: every like oxy came out and everything like it was there, 167 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: but it was not. People were not aware of what 168 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: was going to happen, so they weren't looking at controlled 169 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: pharmaceuticals the way that they do now in the sense 170 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: of like counting every one of them. It was sort 171 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: of done by weight, and nobody really cared. So every 172 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: time we took out the trash, which was conveniently next 173 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: to the vicodin, percocets, valums, morphine patches, et cetera, we 174 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: would take a little something for ourselves. And this was 175 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: at a time when I was also on an acid bender. 176 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: I was about fifteen, So what the yeah, So it 177 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: kind of encompasses that point in my life. That story 178 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: and how I ended up getting fired from the job 179 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: was I got caught stealing a delicious snack called Peebee Crisps, 180 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: which were it was like peanut butter and jelly inside 181 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: of a gram Cracker peanut and I love them whenever 182 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: I was high, I still would love them, but they 183 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: discontinued them because somebody at Planners doesn't know how to think, 184 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: Oh it's delicious. 185 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it does not sound very delicious. It's 186 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: amazing though, if I mean, if you're things, you couldn't 187 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,479 Speaker 1: pick a Snickers bar or something. It's like Graham Crackers. 188 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: I took so much of them that apparently I had 189 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 2: like unloaded half a crate on video like over time 190 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: that I just kept because I didn't even think it 191 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 2: was really I'm like, I'm stealing this other stuff. I'll 192 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: just casually grab these off the shelf. And again I 193 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: don't condone stealing. I have my issues behind why this 194 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: was happening. But yeah, then when I got called in 195 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: the office, I'm like, oh, I'm going to be like 196 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: arrested for like by the FEDS or something. And I 197 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: got fired for stealing gram Crackers, and I was like, oh, okay, 198 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: and I had like a in my pocket. I had 199 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: like a cellophane full of valume. I was like, Okay, 200 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: oh my, I'm gonna go. Boy, this is a bummer. 201 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I made more money off of 202 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: selling the farmies at school than I did actually at 203 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: the job. Well, in fact, I know I did, because 204 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: it was five to ten bucks for a pill and 205 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: I made four nineteen an hour. 206 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: Wow. Well, do not try this at home. But at 207 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: least it could could put it under the title of 208 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: potential entrepreneurship. 209 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just be a go get it to feel 210 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: free to take risks, That's what I'm trying to say. 211 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: But just not those risks. Those are terrible. Yeah, it's 212 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: very stupid. 213 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: But wow, wow, but you were fifteen, so to be fair, 214 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: you know, your brain wasn't fully developed yet and. 215 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: It's still not, but it wasn't then, And we'll have. 216 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: To delve into that, Like after the show, No Deve, 217 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: what what ways do you see your humor building connections 218 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: between people, you know, especially when everyone's sort of wrestling 219 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: with their own hardships and in these days it seems 220 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: like there's a huge mental health problem myriad reasons of course. 221 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I blame social media for a large chunk 222 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: of it, but nonetheless there's a lot of that inhibiting 223 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: our worlds these days. 224 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I think social media is the Antichrist, 225 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: but that's a different thing altogether. But I do feel 226 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: that the dopamine hits that people are getting. It's the 227 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: same with gambling. I think is probably the worst addiction 228 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: people can have, because now it's available on your phone. Sorry, 229 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: if they're a sponsor, you can cut that out. But no, okay, 230 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: it'd be weird if you're like brought to you by 231 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: draft Kings, the Suicide and Apple draft Kings. Yes, oh my. 232 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: Gosh, so thanks Dave. You make me wait four times 233 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: and now we're going to ruin all of our appetizers. 234 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like every one of mine are gambling sponsorships 235 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: and also percosets. So yeah, we u But yeah, I 236 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: think the more I don't know, I forgot where I was. 237 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: I was laughing at how ridiculous. Oh yeah, gambling an 238 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: addiction and substance. Yeah, I think we all deal with 239 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: it now. Where we're all addicted, We're all addicted to something, 240 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: and I think the biggest thing we're addicted to without noticing. 241 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: It is disconnection and we're not talking to people like 242 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: we used to, We're not socializing like we used to. 243 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: I mean, people are making sex robots, which is the 244 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: most insane thing I've ever heard in my entire life. 245 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: And we're not communicating with each other, We're not being 246 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: forgiving to each other. And that's the problem with the Internet. 247 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: Is there used to be this story where you had 248 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: an arc of victory. You wanted to see somebody at 249 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 2: their worst who then became their best. Well, now at 250 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: your worst is permanent, and people want to leave you there. 251 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: And I think it goes for anybody through whatever culture 252 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: of judgment. And I think individually people are fine. I 253 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: think masses are asses, is very true. But dealing with 254 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: a large group of people like at once all part 255 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: of them movement that they really don't believe in, is 256 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: extraordinarily dangerous. And I think a lot of what goes 257 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: on online is extraordinarily dangerous. And now you're looking at 258 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 2: the AI movement, you're looking at all these other things, 259 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: and it's not to be a fear monger, but where 260 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: are we going to go? Why are we doing this 261 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: to our own people? We're allowing ourselves to be destroyed. 262 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: And I think people are really broken right now and angry, 263 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: and I think we're seeing it more and more because 264 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: it's no longer like the frog and the you know, 265 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: in the pot of water getting hotter. I mean, it's 266 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: at a boil, and every time you turn on anything, 267 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: you're getting some kind of news to show how broken 268 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: somebody might be. And I think just letting people know 269 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 2: that if you it's so cliche, but that one day 270 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: at a time thing, and just seriously, like you know, 271 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: wash one dish at a time, just try to get 272 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 2: through one thing at a time. You really can try 273 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 2: to figure it out, but it's all very overwhelming if 274 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 2: you try to do everything all at once, and I 275 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: don't know how people can. 276 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: It's like that you probably don't remember it, but one 277 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: foot in front of the other, the song and that 278 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: holiday cartoon or claymation thing that we watched, Oh, it 279 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: was like a Christmas thing. Put one foot in front 280 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: of the other. 281 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: I mean I remember that. 282 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: It's true though. My parents used to tell me, if 283 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: you're overwhelmed, pretend like your head is a stovetop. And 284 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm game. And there was like two 285 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: burners in the back and two burners in the front. 286 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: You know, whatever's on the front burner, that's what you 287 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: focus on. The stuff on the back burner can wait. 288 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was. 289 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: Like, well that makes sense. I guess as long as 290 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,479 Speaker 1: you know nothing burns on the back burner. 291 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: Right of course. Yeah, and the house isn't burning and 292 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: you're just ignoring it trying to cook noodles. But I 293 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: get it, though, But it makes perfect sense. Just try 294 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: to do the one thing that actually works for you, 295 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: and then that works for that moment, because really life 296 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: is just a moment and everything else that doesn't exist. 297 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: And that's something that it's been very hard for me 298 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: to grasp, but it's helped me tremendously. 299 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: Well. 300 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: It's amazing advice, and I'm so glad that you've gotten 301 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: it and you're sharing it. And for someone listening right 302 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: now who's feeling extremely overwhelmed or maybe even isolated, especially 303 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: with what you just explained, what role can comedy or 304 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: creative expression play and maybe finding their resilience, I know 305 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: you just sort of touched on it a bit. 306 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: I think it's just taking your power back and being 307 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: able to create something for yourself. I think that's something 308 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: that's right there in front of us. I think, and 309 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: also having an outlet that's not just venomous attacks online 310 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: or raging or just staring at or doom scrolling ticked 311 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: talk and Instagram and everything else, which I think is 312 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: something else everybody likes to do right before bed, is 313 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: to see thousand things their brains shouldn't handle, you know. 314 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: And I think if you, if you create, it gives 315 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: you a very calming I don't know, it can calm 316 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: me your life done, it can calm your head down, 317 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: at least for me if I take that time to create, 318 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: and if I take that time to work on myself 319 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: and work on something that I like, you know, even 320 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: if it's drawing, even if it's something that they're not 321 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: going to pay you for, even if it's something you 322 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: suck at, like going and playing golf or something, it's 323 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,359 Speaker 2: worth it to do something. 324 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: You're right, And I'm guessing it comes down to focus. 325 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: So you don't even have to be good at golf 326 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: or thinking. Not nor am I ouny there's something we 327 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: have in common. What would you give that's great advice 328 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: for someone who's you know, dealing in the moment, but 329 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: in terms of someone who maybe wants to become a 330 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: comedian like you, what advice would you give someone using 331 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: humor not only as a tool for personal recovery, but 332 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: also who want to potentially entertain others and make others laugh. 333 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: Do it. The biggest obstacle is always ourselves. That's the 334 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: biggest enemy. It's just between your ears. It's you telling 335 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: you you can't do it, So just do it. There's 336 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: nothing stopping you, absolutely nothing. There Any excuse you may 337 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: is an excuse not to do something. There's no reason 338 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: you can't get on stage. There's no reason you can't 339 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: call an open mic, there's no reason you can't try. 340 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: And if if your logic is like, well it's going 341 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: to take me years and years and I don't want 342 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: to do well, then you don't do it. But if 343 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: you're willing to sacrifice, do it, you know, and it's 344 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: it's worth it. 345 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: Sorry, Nike called they would like their slogan back. That's fair, Like, 346 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: just do it. I've heard that before. 347 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, I said that. Yeah, everything that I say 348 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: is off a T shirts just so. 349 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: You know, all right, Well I don't have anything. 350 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: I was just looking around the room and there was 351 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: just a Nike hoodie, right. 352 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: No, but it's amazing advice. And there's a reason why 353 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: they use that as their national slogan because it's true. 354 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: Just do it, you know, don't procrastinate. But that's a 355 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: problem with creative people. 356 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 2: We do. 357 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: And maybe sometimes they don't even know that they're creative, 358 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: but they are, and doing something and focusing on it 359 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: seems to be a real magical little. 360 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 2: Key it is. Yeah, And I mean I procrastinate constantly. 361 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: I mean that's just part of I think everybody does. 362 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: Anybody who says they're not is just lying to you. 363 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: But I do it all the time, and I think 364 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: of reasons not to do stuff, and I go against everything. 365 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: You know, I'm self destructive by nature, So there's always 366 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: going to be that little piece of me that's going 367 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 2: to prevent me from going really far if I let it, 368 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,239 Speaker 2: or doing the thing that I want to do if 369 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: I let it. And sometimes it wins, but usually I 370 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: find my way out of it. 371 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more of the comedy Save 372 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: Week podcast. Welcome back to the Comedy Save Me Podcast. 373 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: Comedy often involves vulnerability, as evidenced by you talking about 374 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: your past and the things that have happened and being 375 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: able to talk about it. That's a huge right in 376 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: and of itself, because the way I was brought up 377 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: and raised everyone around us. You know, if there was 378 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: a problem, no one talked about it. You can't talk 379 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: about this. You can't. I don't want to tell you 380 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: about that, And you know that would admit that I'm 381 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: vulnerable or that's something you know that I'm broken in 382 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: some way. But doing comedy about these things is so vulnerable, really, 383 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: especially where all the bad stuff you have to turn 384 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: into funny, if that makes any sense. How do you 385 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: balance just being honest on stage with your audience and 386 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: also at the same time sort of protecting your own 387 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: well being because you're making fun of yourself. 388 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it has to be a line where you 389 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: keep you have to keep the audience in control or 390 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: at least in the sense of where they're with you, 391 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: and if you're having them following you and relating to you, 392 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: it's different than just laughing at you. So there are 393 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: things in my set, obviously I'll do where it's just 394 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: involving direct shots at me. But I think a large 395 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: part about commenting on current culture is being able to 396 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: make fun of yourself and then mixing the two together, 397 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: because without that, you're kind of just punching down. And 398 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 2: there's a few comics that can do that and do 399 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: that well, and that's great. But I think for the 400 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 2: most part, to have a true human connection if you're 401 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 2: looking for that in a comedian. It's why like Richard Pryor, 402 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: there's a big difference between what he did and other 403 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: people did because he's talking about lighting himself on fire 404 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 2: while freebasing, and not everybody's going to understand that. But 405 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: the way he paints a picture is you vividly watch 406 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: it occur right in front of your eyes. And I 407 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 2: think if you're vulnerable enough to do that, you're powerful 408 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 2: enough to the audience to where they're not going to 409 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: lose reson for you. If not, they gain it. 410 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: Would you think that there's sort of an intercomedian though 411 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: in a lot of us. Yeah, when it comes time, 412 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: like I keep thinking, like, okay, Thanksgiving twenty years after 413 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: the accident that almost burned down the house and people 414 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: ended up in the hospital, and it ends up like 415 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: a comedy story around the Thanksgiving table when the kids 416 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: are all grown up. It's you know, it's horrific when 417 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: it happened, right, but then it becomes this family story 418 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: that they get such joy from. So would you say 419 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: that everyone sort of eventually can find that inner comedy. 420 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: Oh, I think everybody has tragedy plus time. Everybody can 421 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: laugh plus time. That makes sense, That's what it is. Yeah, 422 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: just and sometimes it's just tragedy and you really get 423 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: a good one in at the moment, But usually it's 424 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: tragedy plus time, and that's really what it is. That's 425 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 2: something awful happen later you talk about it and it's 426 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: hilarious to people because we've all experienced that thing. And 427 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: I love that that about human beings. And I think 428 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: what's crazy about social media is everyone tries to put 429 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: on this face of their perfect life and their perfect family, 430 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 2: and we all know it's a lie. And that's what 431 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: I find it to be so funny. It's like you're 432 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: just pretending that you're Like, I know how hard it 433 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: was to get that picture of you and your three kids, 434 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: and like I know you don't even like your wife 435 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: and you know, whatever it might be. So you look 436 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: at this and it's like, I know how broken you are. 437 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 2: Stop putting stuff online, pretending you're not. No one's buying it, 438 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 2: you know. And I think we try more than ever 439 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 2: to put on this perfect face. Where we used to 440 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: have to do it for small groups of people just 441 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 2: in our own personal lives, and now it's like we 442 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: have to do it for the world, and we're all 443 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: just carbon copies of each other. 444 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: It's so true. And something that you said just at 445 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: the beginning of that about how you have to you 446 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: have to be able to laugh at yourself, Yeah, or 447 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: do you I feel like that's a hard thing to 448 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: request of somebody, on just an average person. But if 449 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: they did find more of a way to be able 450 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: to look inward, I think that's the hardest thing is 451 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 1: looking inward. It's so much easier to just get all 452 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: dulled up and take a picture somewhere fabulous and make 453 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: it look like your life's amazing. Yeah, but why is 454 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: it so hard? Do you think it is for some 455 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: of us to be able to sort of make fun 456 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: of ourselves and sort of knock ourselves down a few pegs. 457 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: It depends on the person. I think a lot of 458 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: people are very scared to fail. I think that's why 459 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: they don't do a lot of things in life. And 460 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: fortunately I don't care. I don't have that switch in 461 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 2: me where if it doesn't go well, I've never been 462 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: competitive in that way. 463 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 3: Wow. 464 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: I've always felt that I'm good at what I'm good at. 465 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: So I'm going to just do as good as I 466 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: can at it, and I'm not going to pretend everything else. 467 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: Like I knew I sucked at sports. My dad knew 468 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: I sucked at sports, and he was our little league coach, 469 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: and he didn't. He wasn't the coach that was like, 470 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: all right, go out there and pitch anyway. You're going 471 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 2: to be the first it's bad. It's like, all right, 472 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: it's the seventh inning and we're up by five. You 473 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: can go play right field. If a ball gets hit 474 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: to you, just move out of the way and let 475 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: the center get you know. It wasn't like this is 476 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: like I didn't grow up in a family that like 477 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: encouraged bs in the sense of like, oh, you're great 478 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: at everything. They let me know that I wasn't, and 479 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: then they also let me know where I did excel. 480 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people don't have that 481 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 2: or don't want to be honest about that, and people 482 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: don't like being made fun of I mean, and if 483 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: you learn to laugh when somebody makes fun of you 484 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: and make fun of them back, it's actually a really 485 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: great time. And I think that's kind of what's good 486 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: about at least when we were young. And I don't 487 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: know if it's the same for the smartphone generation, but 488 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: like ball busting for lack of a better term, and 489 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: it involved girls too, Like sitting around and just ripping 490 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 2: on each other was just a big part of life, 491 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 2: and later on that benefited me when I'm in rooms 492 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: with actual killers and doing radio, you know, and with 493 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: these people that are just unbelievable comedians like I had 494 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: to have that. I had to have that skin built. 495 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: I had to have that, you know, I had to 496 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 2: have some level of thick skin and some level of 497 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: a callous or else I wouldn't have been able to 498 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: survive it. And now I just think it's funny. So 499 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: it's like take shots at yourself. And there's such a 500 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: difference too, between taking shots and negative self talk, because 501 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: I say horrible things to myself. And that's why I 502 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: always find it funny if somebody trashes you, it's like 503 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: I guarantee you you've said worse things about yourself today 504 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: than anybody else is going to say about you, because 505 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: what you're saying is true and cutting. So remember that 506 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: you really are your own worst critic regardless of no 507 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: matter how hard someone tries, they will never be as 508 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: hard on you as yourself. 509 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: That is very true. And another thing that's crazy. You 510 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: just combined radio and killers. 511 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I'm in standip killers, but I haven't viewed 512 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: some murderers. 513 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: WHOA well, I mean, so tell me a little bit 514 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: real quick. I mean, I started sort of my career 515 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: in voiceover, but then went into radio because I felt 516 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: like a comedy troupe was you know that whole Saturday 517 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: Night Live Carol Burnett, The effect of a group of 518 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: funny people working together. It just tickled me. But I 519 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: ended up in a room with all guys, the weatherman, 520 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: the board op, my co host John Lander, and then 521 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, maybe occasionally our entertainment reporter would come on 522 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: for like a blip. So I quickly learned how to 523 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: have thick skin because we just were relentless with each 524 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: other on the air. So I feel like maybe I 525 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: did have, like you, a little a little training in 526 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: having thick skin. But it should it should be something 527 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: that everyone can have or get for themselves. It would 528 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: be helpful. 529 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, my wife is like that. There's and 530 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: I met her at Second City doing improv. Oh wow. 531 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: And yeah we started because I started an improv before 532 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: I went into stand We were doing sketch comedy. 533 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: That's hard. Improv is hard. 534 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. It's fun. It's fun or it's the 535 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: worst thing you've ever watched, one or the other. But 536 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: I've really enjoyed it and I love it. But yeah, 537 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: meeting my wife and some other girls that were there, Yeah, 538 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 2: they had that whatever it was. Usually they came up 539 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: in a house with brothers and I'm not saying you 540 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: have to, but they had whatever in their life. They 541 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: had that defense mechanism. 542 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 543 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 2: And when I joined at Second City, that was part 544 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: of it. Was you are in this constant position where 545 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: you have to like playing a character. It sounds so 546 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: strange because anybody looks at acting and they kind of 547 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: thing it's easy, it's ridiculous that you can do that 548 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: for a living. But the reality is you have to 549 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: be vulnerable enough to make yourself look that stupid. And 550 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: that's really why the best actors are paid what they're paid, 551 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: and you look at the movies they're in, it's because 552 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: they're willing to go that far for a ridiculous character. 553 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: And learning that on stage, which you know obviously you 554 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: have with your background. I mean it's it's hard sometimes, 555 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 2: but you just learn how to let go and just 556 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 2: be in the moment, even though it's it's just it 557 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: feels so awkward and strange and foreign sometimes. 558 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, not taking yourself seriously, and a. 559 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: Lot of people can't stop themselves from being way too. 560 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: Like the more serious you take yourself too, the less 561 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: everybody else does. 562 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Like imagine if I was standing here like, so, 563 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: what do you mean by that? 564 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: Very nobody wants to be interviewed by like an or 565 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 2: just do anything with that kind of person. Was well, 566 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: explain yourself. Okay, Well this has been fun. 567 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks so much. All Right, I really appreciate you 568 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: giving me so much time, and I feel like I've 569 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: gone a little bit over. Can you share a moment 570 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: when you truly felt that comedy saved you, Dave down. 571 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: I will say when I was in my second senior 572 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: year of high school, I was screwing around in a 573 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: class and a teacher kept me after and said, have 574 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: you ever heard of Second City? I said, yeah, my 575 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: dad's talked about it whatever, And it was last year 576 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: my dad was alive, and I go, yeah, my dad's 577 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: told me to go to it and everything. And she goes, 578 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: you're really funny, but you act like a jackass in 579 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: my classroom, but you should consider taking classes at this 580 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: place because I think you actually have a talent. So 581 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,719 Speaker 2: I ended up going to Second City. And years later, 582 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: probably about eight years later, I was doing improv on 583 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: stage in Detroit and a guy's wife was coming to 584 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: perform with us who had done improv, and it was 585 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: my teacher. Wow, So it had come full circle to 586 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: the moment that and she saw something. She didn't just 587 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: send me to the office. She didn't just scold me. 588 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: She didn't just tell me, you know, I was worthless. 589 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: She pulled me aside to let me know, like, you're 590 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: actually very talented what you do because I would get 591 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: the whole class to laugh. But she was the first 592 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: person that ever made me think of it like an 593 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: actual skill and not something to hide or be ashamed of. 594 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: And then I got to perform with her, and for 595 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: some reason that's always stuck with me. 596 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: Wait can we give her a shout out? What's her name? 597 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: I can't remember. That's the worst part. I know, that's 598 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: the worst part. 599 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? 600 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: I swear to god, I can't. I cannot remember. 601 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: Somebody has to know, like one of your classmates, somebody. 602 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: This is like, this is probably fifteen years ago when 603 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: she finally came out, No, thirteen years ago, and she 604 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: finally came out to a show, and her last name 605 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: had changed. 606 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: So okay, that's fair, that's still yeah, Like right, you 607 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: got to find out her name. 608 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: I know, like and I know, I know it's like Lynn, 609 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: but I can't remember the last name. But it's like 610 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: I can't remember the last name because her Yeah, her 611 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: name had changed from that time. But I looked over. 612 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: That's that's why I didn't recognize the name right when 613 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: he told me she was coming, Wow, And then when 614 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: you showed up, I'm like, oh wait, you're the You're 615 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: like her and my dad and some other influences were 616 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: the reasons why I actually ended up going into Second 617 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: City was because I was finally encouraged, so I should 618 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 2: know her name. She did help save me by not 619 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: just treating me like garbage for trying to make jokes 620 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: in class. 621 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: Wow, well that's pretty big, and I bet that she 622 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: would be blown away to know that that is the case. 623 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: But I'm guessing you probably already told her because a 624 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, what fifteen years ago or something? 625 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: Oh I did I told her then? And she goes, 626 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: oh god, I hated that job. I said, do you 627 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: remember me? And she's like, no, I blacked it all out. 628 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: But I'm really happy I told you that. So, I mean, 629 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: she kind of forgot it too, but it was it, 630 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: but yeah, it was all right. 631 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: Well then if she forgot, then you have a little 632 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: leeway there, But I still I still would love to 633 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: know who it was. But yes, in the meantime, I 634 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: just want to say thank you and congratulations for turning 635 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: your life around and for putting forth comedy into the world, 636 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: because we know we all need much of that these days, 637 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: and a lot of that. I should say, sometimes I 638 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: get a little tongue tied when I talk to people 639 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: that make me laugh, so I apologize. 640 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 641 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: Dave Landau, thank you for coming on comedy save Me, 642 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: and I would say, come back again, but it was 643 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: really hard getting you here in the first place. So 644 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: if you want to, the door's always open. 645 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: Well I appreciate that. 646 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: Just show up, just call us. 647 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: There you go, all right. 648 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: Oh and one more plug for your book that's out. 649 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: It's a Party of One, a fuzzy memoir, and it's 650 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: available on Amazon dot com on kindle and paperback. 651 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: And then it's Dave Landau. 652 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: Dot com dot com. Just simple. I was very lucky 653 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: to start early enough to where you can still buy 654 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: your name. 655 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah you're not Dave Landau dash one two three six 656 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: exclamation point. 657 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 2: It's so lucky. So thank you, thank you. 658 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: I