Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, In this episode, only two products come
Speaker 1: with a Surgeon General warning. The next possible product to
Speaker 1: get a Surgeon General warning is on your child's phone
Speaker 1: right now. Also in this episode, how did you react
Speaker 1: to the news that Justin Timberlake was arrested? And did
Speaker 1: your social media reaction match your private reaction? Plus in
Speaker 1: this episode you think you've seen Nicholas Cage at his
Speaker 1: craziest and creepiest in a movie? Well, hold my beer
Speaker 1: and it's official. Robot and I are preparing for a
Speaker 1: trip to the best summer city and America. And finally,
Speaker 1: in this episode, a shout out to two of our friends.
Speaker 1: One is retiring and the NBA will never be the same,
Speaker 1: and the other we want to call out for being
Speaker 1: the absolute best and the absolute worst friend we think
Speaker 1: we've ever had in life. And with that, welcome to
Speaker 1: this episode, folks of Amy and TJ. Robes. How is
Speaker 1: your anxiety today?
Speaker 2: You are saying that to me because I was feeling
Speaker 2: a little anxious and I didn't know why today. So yes,
Speaker 2: it's elevated.
Speaker 1: You're what's elevated, You're anxiety. So we always have it.
Speaker 1: Yours are just elevated.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe not. I I'm not always anxious, but
Speaker 2: when you're aware of your heart thumping, yes, that would
Speaker 2: be my telltale sign that I'm feeling a little anxious.
Speaker 1: I thought that was only because you were sitting across
Speaker 1: the table from me and.
Speaker 2: You were all, I know some I'm just confusing. Is
Speaker 2: this love or is this you know, heart problem? No, sorry,
Speaker 2: or a mental issue? It could be any of the evive.
Speaker 1: But this was real, and look, we're laughing about it now,
Speaker 1: but it was serious a little while ago. We are
Speaker 1: in studio now here, but a short time ago against
Speaker 1: a couple hours you had and you described the way
Speaker 1: the pain felt, and this was a serious moment at
Speaker 1: the house for a little while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom is going to freak out, but it's fine.
Speaker 2: But we've done enough of these stories where you know,
Speaker 2: like women's heart issues don't come the same way men's do.
Speaker 2: And so anyway, I had this all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: We had just gone on a run and I was
Speaker 2: perfectly fine, and about maybe thirty minutes later, my arm
Speaker 2: just started like burning and there was numb numbness, and
Speaker 2: it was actually painful, and it felt like a surge.
Speaker 2: And I had not ever felt that before, and it
Speaker 2: lasted for several minutes and I had to kind of
Speaker 2: take deep breaths. Anyway, ever since then, I've had anxiety
Speaker 2: because my head's gone into a that spiral. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think so, because I got nervous. Like you know, I
Speaker 2: have had heart surgery before. It was for a dangerous rhythm.
Speaker 2: It was an open heart surgery, it was an oblation.
Speaker 2: But I haven't had a heart issue since, and it's
Speaker 2: been since I was thirty eight. So anyway, that was
Speaker 2: I just started to freak out, like, oh no, what
Speaker 2: if I'm having a heart issue? What if I'm having
Speaker 2: And then I just haven't been able to shake the anxiety.
Speaker 2: I didn't google anything, but I know enough.
Speaker 1: So you're not actually physically feeling anything related to the
Speaker 1: numbness and pain. Now you are worried about it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and which is causing another problem.
Speaker 2: Correct, it's called it's called, yes, self imposed heart palpitations.
Speaker 1: But I get it. But it does. And for look,
Speaker 1: folks who are out there who have had any kind
Speaker 1: of serious long term sort of the cancer or anything
Speaker 1: like that, you feel any little thing, and you.
Speaker 2: You tend to overreact, You tend to think you want
Speaker 2: to know, you go to worst case scenario because it
Speaker 2: happened once when you didn't think it could, and so
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden something that I would normally
Speaker 2: just laugh off, all of a sudden, I'm thinking going back,
Speaker 2: thinking now I feel a little lightheaded. Maybe I have
Speaker 2: a brain tumor. I mean, you really, you go into
Speaker 2: these like vicious cycles of fear and then you just
Speaker 2: kind of eventually have to talk yourself off the ledge,
Speaker 2: breathe it out. Actually, I asked for a hug. I've
Speaker 2: asked for several hugs today, which is highly unusual.
Speaker 1: Who were you asking from you?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, you didn't ask You only ask me once on
Speaker 1: the train.
Speaker 2: I know. But in the kitchen I asked you for
Speaker 2: a hug too, and I hugged you.
Speaker 1: Then you were hugging the dog Nikki. Was there a lot?
Speaker 2: But I hugged you like I asked you for a hug.
Speaker 2: Yeah it did, Yeah, it really did.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's feel better, all right, as while we can
Speaker 1: see to deal with the anxiety. But it's a real thing.
Speaker 1: I say it's a real thing in that I had
Speaker 1: to be cool, but I was in an absolute panic.
Speaker 1: You were, I was if you what did you notice.
Speaker 2: Me doing you were making jokes?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, sweetheart, you need to correct
Speaker 1: that one on the record for everybody to hear. I
Speaker 1: did not make a single joke when you were when
Speaker 1: you were hurting and you were dealing with you. Did
Speaker 1: you even notice what I was doing?
Speaker 2: You were walking out of the room.
Speaker 1: No, I was taking off my running clothes and getting
Speaker 1: prepared to go to the hospital. Really, you didn't see
Speaker 1: I was throwing clothes across to where the the washing
Speaker 1: machine was. And I didn't know quietly preparing. Oh no,
Speaker 1: no that that was not a time for wowd make
Speaker 1: a single Oh my goodness, now later the anxiety I
Speaker 1: gave your heart that.
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking talking about. No, I didn't
Speaker 2: notice anything.
Speaker 1: I wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm glad I didn't know you were doing.
Speaker 1: You just told everybody that while you thought you were dying,
Speaker 1: your boyfriend was making jokes. Of course I wasn't.
Speaker 2: All right, you're teasing me about the the.
Speaker 1: Which was an hour Yeah, that was two plus hours
Speaker 1: later when we were Nikki and yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: You know the crazy thing is, though, like I've done this,
Speaker 2: I've done these stories where you know, you don't want
Speaker 2: to be the it's embarrassing to say, like, my god,
Speaker 2: I'm having a medical issue, and so you try to
Speaker 2: just like downplay it or yeah, so that's what I
Speaker 2: was trying to do. But clearly that didn't work with you.
Speaker 1: But all good and all good. Never it's it's okay.
Speaker 1: We are good friends and we tease each other and
Speaker 1: I give you a hard time, but I no, maybe
Speaker 1: this was not a foking situation when you were in
Speaker 1: that pain. So we are sitting here, folks, recording this podcast,
Speaker 1: only a few hours removed from news that Justin Timberlake,
Speaker 1: of course, one of the biggest superstars on the planet,
Speaker 1: has been in the spotlight at the top of the game,
Speaker 1: I guess you could argue for a couple of decades,
Speaker 1: was arrested in sag Harbor on Long Island in the
Speaker 1: early morning hours for DUI. Now, the details that have
Speaker 1: come out, and I think the police have acknowledged, is
Speaker 1: that he did not take a breathalyzer. He was pulled
Speaker 1: over for I think running through a stops now how
Speaker 1: they right, Yes, okay, running through a stop sign after
Speaker 1: leaving dinner at some hotel restaurant, and they put him
Speaker 1: in jail, got it? D UI? Now my what was
Speaker 1: your And I asked some of our folks here, our producers, like,
Speaker 1: what was your first reaction to hearing what was your
Speaker 1: just in reading the headlin? I think we were watching
Speaker 1: we had it on TV at the time, just breaking news,
Speaker 1: just and Timberlake in custody, do U? I?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm a huge JT fan, Like we
Speaker 2: are huge JT fan. I love his music, I love
Speaker 2: everything about him. So my heart kind of broke for him.
Speaker 2: And first of all, I was grateful no one was injured,
Speaker 2: you know that that was the big thing. I think
Speaker 2: we were all like, is everybody okay? So obviously that's
Speaker 2: the best case scenario in a tough situation. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I just I feel bad, feel bad for anyone who,
Speaker 2: you know, not only I mean, obviously he made a mistake.
Speaker 2: He hasn't been convicted, but he's been arrested, so that's
Speaker 2: important to point out. But if what they're saying is true,
Speaker 2: if the charges are in fact true or provable, I
Speaker 2: feel sad for him. I feel sad for you know,
Speaker 2: anyone who has to deal with the aftermath of drinking
Speaker 2: too much. And thank god, no one else was hurt. Obviously,
Speaker 2: that's the big concern that other people's lives are put
Speaker 2: at risk. If you get behind the wheel, it.
Speaker 1: Is that you are absolutely putting your own life in danger.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely pulling the life of your family. Essentially, they
Speaker 1: don't need to be without their dad in the house.
Speaker 1: So yes, see, if this turns out to be the case.
Speaker 1: My first concern when I heard it, though, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh God, what is he about to have to endure?
Speaker 1: When it comes to social media, it comes to it's everywhere,
Speaker 1: and it's everywhere, not just being reported. And this is
Speaker 1: what got me. There's nobody who is going to defend
Speaker 1: anybody who says they had right. If you make that mistake,
Speaker 1: get behind the wheel, then you messed up, and we
Speaker 1: get that. I immediately start, well, let me hear the details. Right,
Speaker 1: where was he what was he doing? Did he blow
Speaker 1: into a breathalyzer?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: How much over did he do? Did he not just
Speaker 1: put on his signal and he got pulled over? I
Speaker 1: just didn't know the details. But then you started looking
Speaker 1: at social media stuff and sure enough it was exactly
Speaker 1: what you would imagine. I just I just it just
Speaker 1: it's hurt the jokes to start making jokes when I
Speaker 1: know this dude's kids. I have to see that or
Speaker 1: endure that, and it's awful. He is a he is yes,
Speaker 1: he is a superstar. He's dead. He's a dad. Yea,
Speaker 1: he is a he's a nephew, he's an uncle, he's
Speaker 1: a son, he's all these other things that I just
Speaker 1: looking at him as a human being and know that
Speaker 1: there's a human experience happening right now that really sucks
Speaker 1: for him. And maybe it is because of a mistake
Speaker 1: he made, but that was my first reaction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And interestingly enough you point that out because when
Speaker 2: you google the last post he made in the last
Speaker 2: little headline that was about him is about Father's Day
Speaker 2: and just how proud he was of his sons and
Speaker 2: how they make him better. So obviously that's all on
Speaker 2: his mind, and of course we get it and just
Speaker 2: wish them the very best in whatever the next steps
Speaker 2: are for him.
Speaker 1: Is it weird? Can you support someone as a human
Speaker 1: being but still have an issue with the act, right?
Speaker 2: God, I hope so.
Speaker 1: We too often like we have to. This person did
Speaker 1: something bad, they have to be condemned wholly. Fully. You
Speaker 1: cannot support them in any there's no defense anybody's hearing
Speaker 1: anything we're saying about anybody who has it to you.
Speaker 1: I'm not defending anybody against that. But there's a human
Speaker 1: side always to these stories, and it's just at that part.
Speaker 1: I just like this as big as this star is.
Speaker 1: You know what the day is about to be?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the day, the week, the months to come.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you know we might find out like Scheffler,
Speaker 1: the golfer got arrested assaulting a police office on all this,
Speaker 1: next name in oh, charges dropped. Oh you know what,
Speaker 1: never mind, So you never know, this might turn out
Speaker 1: to be. You don't one of those right yep?
Speaker 2: Suspend judgment and innocent until proven guilty.
Speaker 1: Do you know what the label the surgeon the Surgeon
Speaker 1: General's label on a bottle of alcohol says? Do you
Speaker 1: know what the warning is? We know there is one,
Speaker 1: but do you all know the text of it? Can
Speaker 1: you recall any part of the Surgeon general warning on
Speaker 1: a bottle of liqua?
Speaker 2: Maybe that it could impair you if you're operating any vehicles.
Speaker 2: A warning for pregnant women that it could be dangerous
Speaker 2: to the unborn fetus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, I wouldn't have remembered the pregnant women party.
Speaker 1: But the line is, according to the Surgeon General, women
Speaker 1: should not drink alcoholic beverages during pregnancy because of the
Speaker 1: risk of birth effects. It goes on to say consumption
Speaker 1: of alcoholic beverages impairs your ability to drive a car
Speaker 1: or operate machinery and may cause health problems. Has this
Speaker 1: ever Has that ever caused anyone to not order the
Speaker 1: third martini? I do you argue?
Speaker 2: I would say the pregnant woman thing. Perhaps maybe if
Speaker 2: you're feeling stressed and then you see it, you're like,
Speaker 2: I really know I shouldn't be doing this.
Speaker 1: I feel like you feel it's effective.
Speaker 2: I feel like that would definitely if a woman, and
Speaker 2: I definitely have had friends who have been told it's
Speaker 2: fine to have a drink a day. But maybe if
Speaker 2: you're seeing that, it might make you. I think that
Speaker 2: could give you pause, even if you think, oh, it's okay,
Speaker 2: but you know what, why would I risk it?
Speaker 1: Here's the thing? We know this, don't we Do you
Speaker 1: need to as a pregnant as anybody, Do you need
Speaker 1: to look on the back of that beer, on the
Speaker 1: back of that bottle of vodka to know that drinking
Speaker 1: and over drinking is bad for your health.
Speaker 2: No, but I do think that it's a reminder as
Speaker 2: you're reaching for the next drink and maybe you've had
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, it can't hurt to have
Speaker 2: it on there? How about that?
Speaker 1: Okay, this is weird. I'm showing Rome's a picture now
Speaker 1: of a bottle we have in a how you can't
Speaker 1: even read that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, it's on the back and small print at the bottom.
Speaker 1: We know it's there.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm pretty settled in my ways, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just feel like it can't hurt.
Speaker 1: Can't hurt. Now, I'm with you on that one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: What harm is it in having no problem? They do
Speaker 1: this on tobacco as well. I picked up a pack
Speaker 1: of Black and Miles at the house that we have.
Speaker 1: I said, y, I saw you taking a picture.
Speaker 2: I was like, what is he doing? Now that all
Speaker 2: makes sense?
Speaker 1: So, yes, tobacco products have a warning as well. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize that the cigars I have, Black and Miles.
Speaker 1: It's a long, long story that goes back to college.
Speaker 2: It's a once in a while thing for you. You probably, yes,
Speaker 2: like smoke one pack of those it takes you a
Speaker 2: full year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're probably right. You're probably right, but it does
Speaker 1: have a warning. That warning includes that you should not like,
Speaker 1: even if you don't inhale, that it's harmful for you
Speaker 1: from the Surgeon General. I didn't know that tobacco alcohol
Speaker 1: the only two things that got a Surgeon General warning.
Speaker 1: The tobacco got it back in nineteen late nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1: Alcohol got the warning about nineteen eighty six. We might
Speaker 1: now get the bird product robes. Ever, that's deemed so
Speaker 1: harmful that it needs a Surgeon General.
Speaker 2: Warning, and it is social media. And it makes a
Speaker 2: lot of sense because we heard from the Surgeon General.
Speaker 2: He is he wrote a not bad in New York
Speaker 2: Times avecmurthy, and he is talking about the mental health
Speaker 2: crisis that is facing our children, speaking of anxiety, depression
Speaker 2: and at worst case, dying by suicide. And a lot
Speaker 2: of it is based on the comparative nature of social media,
Speaker 2: the bullying that goes on through social media, and he
Speaker 2: wants there to be a warning on our phones as
Speaker 2: it pertains to social media that this could be detrimental
Speaker 2: to your mental health and ultimately your physical health.
Speaker 1: He has to he can't just do an onzone. He
Speaker 1: will need congressional approval to do so. But I am
Speaker 1: I wonder like just how the label itself. We wonder
Speaker 1: how effective it can be if we never talk about
Speaker 1: this again after today. I think it's effective because he
Speaker 1: is the top doctor in the country who is coming
Speaker 1: out and saying something is so detrimental to the health
Speaker 1: of this country and our kids that I'm saying we
Speaker 1: need to warn you about it. That's a big deal, correct.
Speaker 2: And there's this big controversy because we heard Mark Zuckerberger
Speaker 2: say that this isn't the case. But there is no
Speaker 2: evidence he's seen right that there is no link between
Speaker 2: mental health issues and children or teens using social media. However,
Speaker 2: it's undeniable that the algorithms that these social media companies
Speaker 2: use to target children through advertising and certain types of
Speaker 2: feeds or certain types of if you you guys know,
Speaker 2: if you click on one thing or I kind of
Speaker 2: if you even say something, I feel like, all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, my Instagram feed changes. It looks different. If
Speaker 2: I start talking about love, oh you should see all
Speaker 2: the love. How do you know your relationship? It's hilarious
Speaker 2: talk about love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just randomly.
Speaker 2: Maybe they just yes, where am I when you talk
Speaker 2: about love with me? And so so I think my
Speaker 2: phone hears me.
Speaker 1: You're hugging all those other people.
Speaker 2: No, I just I have lots of you think it's it.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to yes, no, but I'm going to like,
Speaker 2: you know, you found you found the love of your life,
Speaker 2: if your best friend is your Like, I'm getting all
Speaker 2: of these ads and posts because somehow I've searched things
Speaker 2: or whatever. But yes, so children, even not knowing go
Speaker 2: and search something. They're being exposed to certain types of
Speaker 2: posts that they wouldn't have otherwise. And there are targeted programs.
Speaker 1: What's the what was the number of the average number
Speaker 1: of hours the four point eight the kids are on
Speaker 1: social media five hours a day. Now, let's forget the studies,
Speaker 1: let's forget the algorithms for a second, and let's just
Speaker 1: say if there is a kid out there who is twelve, thirteen,
Speaker 1: fourteen years old, and for five hours of the day
Speaker 1: they're staring at social media, that means that's five hours
Speaker 1: that they're not doing what any physical exercise, any reading
Speaker 1: of being educated necessarily, that's five hours that they're not
Speaker 1: interacting with another human being, which is right irl, which
Speaker 1: is important for social development in real life.
Speaker 2: Yes, they like you. The social awkwardness of kids is
Speaker 2: crazy to me because they only know how to not
Speaker 2: even text each other directly. No, we're going to go
Speaker 2: on Snapchat, We're going to go you know and DM
Speaker 2: but we're not going to It's almost they take one
Speaker 2: step out of it being impersonal and making it even less.
Speaker 2: But I'm scared for a lot of kids who have
Speaker 2: grown up with from the moment they were born. I mean,
Speaker 2: how many times do we see it. I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to judge here because I know it's really hard with
Speaker 2: toddlers and little kids. But we're in the greatest city
Speaker 2: in the world with so many things to look at
Speaker 2: and interact and point to, and you've got these kids
Speaker 2: and strollers with the big padded iPads with headphones on.
Speaker 2: They are in completely different universes than the ones they're
Speaker 2: actually in and they've had that since birth, which is
Speaker 2: really scary.
Speaker 1: So it's scary because Sabine is eleven and you've you've
Speaker 1: seen all these conversations. They've been difficult ones to have
Speaker 1: because some other kid has it, right, Sabine said, there's
Speaker 1: other kid it has it, so I want it so
Speaker 1: I can communicate with her. And then it's this other
Speaker 1: kid that has and it keeps going and going. And
Speaker 1: I didn't know some of these apps lets you track
Speaker 1: your friends? I didn't. I think I learned this man.
Speaker 2: At least, yes, they all emojis and you can see
Speaker 2: where they are all around the world.
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know that that you can actually track
Speaker 1: they they don't even text to see where their friend is.
Speaker 1: At least will pick up the phone and can see
Speaker 1: exactly where her friend is standing exactly. Okay, that's that's
Speaker 1: a little much. But but bec Murphy, I give them credit.
Speaker 1: This is somebody we've worked with over the years and
Speaker 1: have a respect for and gain and a relationship with
Speaker 1: to a certain degree. But to take this type of step,
Speaker 1: I applauded. I don't know what chance it has, but
Speaker 1: I think it's to have that conversation. It's when will
Speaker 1: we see the impact, Like when will we go finally, wow,
Speaker 1: look at this stat We got to do something about that.
Speaker 1: And then something changed. I don't know what you do.
Speaker 2: My twenty one year old and her friend were talking
Speaker 2: about how getting a flip phone is now in vogue
Speaker 2: because people are recognizing at their age that it's not
Speaker 2: healthy to always be on a smartphone, to always be
Speaker 2: looking down any free time you have instead of being bored,
Speaker 2: What can I search up? What can I look at?
Speaker 2: Who can I google? And that's really scary. And I
Speaker 2: will say this is I think Ava's eyes were opened
Speaker 2: when we went to and there aren't many places in
Speaker 2: the world hiking in the Andes Mountains and she couldn't
Speaker 2: get cell serviced and so she just had to put
Speaker 2: her phone away and she had a whole week where
Speaker 2: she had no contact and she said it was a
Speaker 2: happy at she had been. This is right in the
Speaker 2: middle of the beginning of high school. And she said,
Speaker 2: I learned that week that social media and just having
Speaker 2: constant access to that into looking and seeing what other
Speaker 2: people are doing and comparing it to has such a
Speaker 2: negative impact on my life. And so she learned from
Speaker 2: that and has really made an effort. So they were
Speaker 2: talking about flip phones.
Speaker 1: Will you will you going to go that route?
Speaker 2: I mean, Andy, you're shaking your head, you're.
Speaker 1: Going to go that route? I've thought about it.
Speaker 5: I have a dumb phone actually, and it just does
Speaker 5: like the basic things, and when I go home, I
Speaker 5: switch my phones out, so like if I'm home, I
Speaker 5: like to put my phone on a charger just like
Speaker 5: turn it down, and then I use the dumb phone
Speaker 5: for like, oh I'm going to go on Instagram. It's
Speaker 5: really unattractive. It's black and white. It's almost like kindle
Speaker 5: e ink. So it's like it's not appealing to be on.
Speaker 5: But that's the point.
Speaker 2: It doesn't hit those dopamine you know, yeah parts, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Does it have you you have it set up to
Speaker 1: where both devices are connected to the same phone number
Speaker 1: or how does that work?
Speaker 5: So for me, the biggest thing is like Instagram, like
Speaker 5: I will mindlessly scroll for an hour.
Speaker 1: It's bad.
Speaker 2: They call it dooms scrolling. Yeah, I didn't know that that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because because you end up sooning like oh look it
Speaker 2: they're in Italy. Oh wow, my friends are in La
Speaker 2: living the you know, the high life. Oh look at them,
Speaker 2: and you start to feel doom scrolling because you're looking
Speaker 2: at everyone else and comparingon to it.
Speaker 5: For me, with that where it would just like lead
Speaker 5: one thing to another where it's like oh my god,
Speaker 5: this is like bad. It's leading to this, It's leading
Speaker 5: to that, and in my head, I'm like, an hour
Speaker 5: goes by and I'm like, oh god, I can't fix
Speaker 5: all the world's issues, So what am I gonna do?
Speaker 1: I just read through my own comments and that's doom strolling.
Speaker 2: Scrolling is yeah, okay, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: I don't know a good good luck to me. The
Speaker 1: my mine is this is probably more the parents responsibility
Speaker 1: in the governments. The government can help us, but it's
Speaker 1: it's it's our responsibility to know what your kids are
Speaker 1: doing on that phone. It just is. So we will
Speaker 1: see what comes of that. But I applaud at least
Speaker 1: the effort in the conversation is starting the did we
Speaker 1: talk about the Watchers here?
Speaker 5: Already?
Speaker 2: We have not?
Speaker 1: We haven't talked about the Watchers? Oh what movie? Did
Speaker 1: we had?
Speaker 2: Two?
Speaker 1: We've been off Mother's Day and Father's Day. We went
Speaker 1: and saw two movies that we normally wouldn't go to
Speaker 1: the theater and see. So now we getting back to
Speaker 1: our horror roots. Yes, now, okay, so we we saw.
Speaker 1: We're very excited to see. It's been talked about for
Speaker 1: a long time though. M Night Shmalon's daughter Yes is
Speaker 1: twenty four and doing a feature horrid debut with the
Speaker 1: last name shut on Nights.
Speaker 2: A lot to live up to, a lot to live
Speaker 2: up to.
Speaker 1: That movie started out the first few minutes, we were
Speaker 1: jumping out of our seats excited about it.
Speaker 2: The music, the setting, the cinematography. You were just getting
Speaker 2: swept into this other world. And Dakota Fanning, who's amazing.
Speaker 1: That The performances are wonderful. But that is one that
Speaker 1: a lot of people talked about that she just obviously
Speaker 1: she got the opportunity because of her last name, and
Speaker 1: that's okay. She's had training since birth.
Speaker 2: Right most certainly to be.
Speaker 1: A movie maker. So we saw the Watchers. But while
Speaker 1: we were waiting to watch the Watchers, there was a
Speaker 1: preview of another movie called Long Legs. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you all have heard about this one or not yet,
Speaker 1: but we just saw it yesterday courtesy of our superstar
Speaker 1: producer here Andy. He said, hey, guys, we've got a screening.
Speaker 1: Y'all want to come check it out now? I didn't
Speaker 1: exactly know what it was about after even seeing the preview,
Speaker 1: did you know? Abahana did not?
Speaker 2: Nope, it just looked really scary.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what is your would you say, it looked
Speaker 1: really scary. Were you really scared sitting in there?
Speaker 2: I had a couple jump scares. I always appreciate a few.
Speaker 2: Andy was sitting next to me. I think he jumped
Speaker 2: alongside me, So there were a couple were like whoa
Speaker 2: And Nick Cage is unreal in this movie. In fact,
Speaker 2: I didn't recognize him. I was like, wait, where's Oh
Speaker 2: that's Nick Cage and he was in it is incredible.
Speaker 2: I mean, so good deal didn't It took me a
Speaker 2: while to even know in the voice everything He changed
Speaker 2: it all and it was so creepy.
Speaker 1: What is there? Can you think? I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of what was the creepiest Nick Cage performance? Like carrig,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go through his characters. I don't know
Speaker 1: why this isn't a creepy one, but he was just
Speaker 1: a character gone in sixty seconds. He was like a
Speaker 1: wild dude that I really liked. His name was Memphis
Speaker 1: Rains and it was just the coolest thing.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to He's had some really what about
Speaker 1: the ghost Rider?
Speaker 2: That was a But I don't feel like there's anything
Speaker 2: I've seen him in that compares to what he does
Speaker 2: in this film in Long Leves.
Speaker 1: What is the name we gotta check it. What is
Speaker 1: the name of the movie he's in in which everybody's
Speaker 1: dreaming about him? We just saw, Oh that's so good.
Speaker 2: I love that one. He just looks like a dorky
Speaker 2: dad in that one. But he's amazing in that movie.
Speaker 1: But the premise of the movie.
Speaker 2: Everyone starts at first they're having like happy dreams about him.
Speaker 2: So he's like a hero and people are saying, yay,
Speaker 2: look all over the world. He becomes this famous, like
Speaker 2: more famous and beloved than Tom Cruise, like in a moment,
Speaker 2: and then he starts getting into their bad dreams. Then
Speaker 2: he starts killing them in the dreams, and people are
Speaker 2: afraid of him, and he becomes ostracized and his whole
Speaker 2: life crumbles.
Speaker 1: Amazing. Do we know the name of dream scenario? He
Speaker 1: just dream scenario scenario.
Speaker 2: He that's a great one.
Speaker 1: Is a really dream scenario for sure. But this U
Speaker 1: long legs maka Micah.
Speaker 2: Is it Mica Monroe or I think that's how you
Speaker 2: say her name. We love her. We can't pronounce her name,
Speaker 2: but we've seen her in several films and you have
Speaker 2: great She was great in this movie.
Speaker 1: You all have seen her. She's in so many horror
Speaker 1: movies and every time you see her you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll watch that. She's one of those actors who's been
Speaker 1: in so much and you love and you respect.
Speaker 2: You can't come up with the name something the name
Speaker 2: of the hiking one she goes on and she gets engaged,
Speaker 2: so good. I forgot that one.
Speaker 1: So that was our watching. But we try. We've been
Speaker 1: trying for weeks to get ready for House of the Dragon. Yes,
Speaker 1: we failed, we failed.
Speaker 2: We watched the first episode of season one. We did
Speaker 2: a while. Yeah, it's so complicated, you forget how complicated
Speaker 2: it is. And then my favorite part is after we
Speaker 2: watched the first episode of season two this weekend, we
Speaker 2: watched it again a second time. Think, I've had to
Speaker 2: do this with Game of Throne so often, and then
Speaker 2: you didn't even realize they did this. But if you
Speaker 2: wait until after the credits, the producers come on and
Speaker 2: really go through the episode and explain what happened. And
Speaker 2: because that's how complicated it is, you can't just like
Speaker 2: I applaud anyone who can just watch it once and
Speaker 2: know exactly what happened. I need a second watch, and
Speaker 2: then the cliff notes of them from the producers telling
Speaker 2: me what happened that move?
Speaker 1: That show is so good. It is okay, everybody House
Speaker 1: of the Dragon on HBO. If you haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: go watch the first season and then start with a
Speaker 1: second seat. It is just wonderful.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a tamer version because if you
Speaker 2: some people got really turned off when they watched the
Speaker 2: first season of Game of Thrones because it is basically
Speaker 2: like watching violent and then violence and then soft porn
Speaker 2: and and incestuousness. I mean, it's tough. It's a lot.
Speaker 1: First two or three it took me. I was not
Speaker 1: going to continue with Game of Thrones.
Speaker 2: It's a lot. Yeah, But this one, I feel like
Speaker 2: still has those elements, but it's not as intense. So
Speaker 2: there's some well, there's softer incestuousness. It's the least. It's
Speaker 2: not brother and sister.
Speaker 1: That's not a thing.
Speaker 4: Softer uncle and incestuousness. Yeah, because it's an that has
Speaker 4: been of course I made that up. It's an uncle
Speaker 4: with his niece versus a brother and a sister. See,
Speaker 4: that's why I felt like it was a little less incestuous.
Speaker 1: You can deal with that.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, that feels less gross. It's still gross, don't
Speaker 2: get me wrong.
Speaker 1: But the show is. But you know what, the weird thing,
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say that. It sound like a weirdo,
Speaker 1: you know it. No matter what, I'm not gonna say it.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you all when we started recording. But it's
Speaker 1: that bad. I shouldn't say it because it makes me
Speaker 1: seem odd. The last thing we want to hit on
Speaker 1: today is that we are officially officially training for the
Speaker 1: Chicago Marathon. It started last week. Official training, yes. And
Speaker 1: the way that goes, we had we keep the board
Speaker 1: up in the house. We keep a sheet up. She
Speaker 1: has one in her place, I got one in mine,
Speaker 1: and we cross it off. But we got eighteen weeks
Speaker 1: of training in. This is week number two. But you
Speaker 1: go for eighteen weeks of running.
Speaker 2: It's kind of amazing because people, it is a daunting
Speaker 2: thing to train for. Luckily we've been down this road.
Speaker 2: But I have found if you just print out the
Speaker 2: marathon training. We go with Halhigden the novice one because
Speaker 2: I like to keep it with something that's worked. I
Speaker 2: just stay with it. But if you just mark off
Speaker 2: the runs, and as intimidating as they are, they build
Speaker 2: and there's a rhyme to the reason and it works.
Speaker 2: It's worked every time. So we were actually surprised that
Speaker 2: we had to run as much as we did the
Speaker 2: first time. We had a three, a three, a three,
Speaker 2: and then a six mile and I was like, already
Speaker 2: a six miler. Couldn't we like ease into it with
Speaker 2: a four miler or a five? And I struggled a
Speaker 2: little bit with the six. Yeah, I was a little
Speaker 2: slow on mile four and five. I wasn't used to it.
Speaker 1: But we were so excited afterwards because wow, we just
Speaker 1: knocked out six We're good because we haven't run that
Speaker 1: much since the half Maria have Marathon, so to be
Speaker 1: back in it feels good to be on schedule, on routine.
Speaker 1: It is great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and running is not like riding a bike. You
Speaker 2: if you you have to start from scratch when you're
Speaker 2: when you're training for these things, it's not like, oh,
Speaker 2: well I've run this many so I'll just be good.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: You I have bad runs. When I have a six miler,
Speaker 2: you know you have to really start building it back up.
Speaker 1: Was it today? Do you have a bad run?
Speaker 2: No? Today I did. I had a great three miles.
Speaker 2: If I had a bad run of three miles, I
Speaker 2: mean it could happen, but that'd be really sad.
Speaker 1: But on our three miler this well, just yes, yeah, yesterday,
Speaker 1: right U we had a three mile yesterday?
Speaker 2: No, you're wrongday, Today's Tuesday. So today we had a
Speaker 2: three miler.
Speaker 1: Today we had it.
Speaker 2: Yes, today we had we had three three last ran today? Yes,
Speaker 2: because you got it at four. It already feels like tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: We ran today, Yeah you rode today? We ran today?
Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, I was had a really early run right day.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my god, maybe you should get some more
Speaker 2: sleeve hun So anyway, this week end, it's seven miles.
Speaker 2: But along our six miler we saw.
Speaker 1: Oh that was the six. It wasn't a three. That
Speaker 1: was on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I told you I was dragging a little bit,
Speaker 2: but I know you weren't.
Speaker 1: Really If we look it up on Strava, it wasn't bad.
Speaker 1: But okay, I get what you're saying. You didn't feel
Speaker 1: the way you wanted to feel. But we ended the
Speaker 1: run and we laid eyes on somebody we hadn't laid
Speaker 1: eyes on a while a wonderful, wonderful friend who I
Speaker 1: would also like to say is the worst friend I
Speaker 1: think I've ever had. We are ending, right, I'm literally
Speaker 1: stopping and stopping my Strava on my phone, and I
Speaker 1: hear somebody run over to like coming right at me,
Speaker 1: like a big brother, coming right at me, full speed,
Speaker 1: coming right and getting in my face. And this is
Speaker 1: what he said to me, keep up the pace, DJ,
Speaker 1: all right, and kep running.
Speaker 2: He said the exact same thing to me, because.
Speaker 1: You were just behind, but you didn't know he came
Speaker 1: and said the same thing to you. And as he's
Speaker 1: running away from me, before he even got to you,
Speaker 1: he puts his phone up in the air, like running
Speaker 1: away from me, saying, I'm ana text you, And that's
Speaker 1: what he said.
Speaker 2: Has he texted you?
Speaker 1: He has? Oh, he has, because he knew I was
Speaker 1: about to talk shit about him in this podcast. And
Speaker 1: who are we talking about?
Speaker 2: Robes Matt James.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, mister bachelor, mister first black bachelor.
Speaker 3: Mister bachelor that we have gotten on and embraced him
Speaker 3: about how much he was a great friend during some
Speaker 3: of our lowest, lowest days.
Speaker 2: But now that he knows we're good where's he been him?
Speaker 1: I freaking a okay, So I don't know how what
Speaker 1: does that say about her? Because you've said this plenty
Speaker 1: of times during all we went through. You know who
Speaker 1: your friends are. You came out of this and there
Speaker 1: are people who's stuck by you when it was at
Speaker 1: the absolute worst. Those are the people you know are
Speaker 1: your friends. Problem with Matt is he only shows up
Speaker 1: when it's an emergency, which is good. That means you's
Speaker 1: a friend. He's there for in your hardest times. But
Speaker 1: when things are good, that was like, ah, you got this,
Speaker 1: What do you say about it?
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because we call the opposite of that,
Speaker 2: and these are friends to be worried about, fair weather friends.
Speaker 2: They're only there when things are good and you can
Speaker 2: do things for them and all that. But what would
Speaker 2: that be called? Like he's the he's like the what
Speaker 2: is like Defcon five friend? I don't know what what
Speaker 2: is he?
Speaker 1: I don't know If I text him right now and say, yo, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm going through something to rollback. I really need something
Speaker 1: you really needs. Yeah, it's something I'm gonna I wanted
Speaker 1: to float it, it didn't land, so I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna still a row back. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, So it didn't. I was trying to sneak
Speaker 1: it in on y'all.
Speaker 2: And y'all, would you have let me slide if I
Speaker 2: had mispronounced your last name?
Speaker 1: Uh? You don't ever say homes that's true?
Speaker 2: Ever, that's true. What if I said TG.
Speaker 1: TG who's the guy that you're building? Agg ag? Then
Speaker 1: I would have issues. Man, we get off the track
Speaker 1: real fast. But now what do you call that? He
Speaker 1: is there for everything you need and you'r he will
Speaker 1: show He always always shows up. But when things are
Speaker 1: going well and you just want to want to holler,
Speaker 1: he's back. You can't find that.
Speaker 2: That's true. Well, you can find him on Instagram. He's
Speaker 2: he's eating himself around the world. So it's amazing.
Speaker 1: That's why he was out running, correct.
Speaker 2: I mean I don't. I mean I've never seen a
Speaker 2: man eat more in my life.
Speaker 1: You know what I am. You say whatever you want
Speaker 1: to say about it right now. Because I told him
Speaker 1: we were about to call him out, He's like, bring
Speaker 1: it what he's talking to So anything you want to
Speaker 1: get off your chest about Matt James right now, get it.
Speaker 1: Because he's welcoming it.
Speaker 2: I think I've settled. I need to say I really
Speaker 2: just want peace in my life. Thank you. I'm to
Speaker 2: say peace out.
Speaker 1: No, we love some math. It's good to reconnect with
Speaker 1: him and the other friend we want to talk about today.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people saw the news that a
Speaker 1: friend of ours is retiring. Now that doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: necessarily the biggest deal in the world, but this is
Speaker 1: somebody who is one of the most prominent names and
Speaker 1: voices associated with the NBA, and he has been for
Speaker 1: forty years. And to think about the NBA without this
Speaker 1: guy as a player or as a an analyst's kind
Speaker 1: of unfathomable, Like he's just been such a part of
Speaker 1: it for so long. So hats off to Charles Wade Barklay,
Speaker 1: who announced just last week that he is going to
Speaker 1: retire from NBA broadcasting after next season. So he'll get
Speaker 1: his kind of farewell farewell tour. But Robes, this is
Speaker 1: something you've only been hanging out with Chuck for the
Speaker 1: past against a couple of years with me. But he's
Speaker 1: somebody who's been a friend of mine of seventeen eighteen years.
Speaker 1: You have heard him even the past two years. How
Speaker 1: he talks about retirement, talks about wanting to finally stop working.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you know what good for him? He
Speaker 2: loves to golf, he loves to travel, he loves his family.
Speaker 2: So this is gonna be great. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: can't imagine him. I mean, you said you can slowing
Speaker 2: down and saying I'm done with this. But he is
Speaker 2: always just going, going, going going. I mean, he holds
Speaker 2: court wherever he goes. I mean, and I think that'll
Speaker 2: probably always be the case. So will he ever really
Speaker 2: get to relax? Because he walks into any room anywhere,
Speaker 2: and he is, yes, the most important, most interesting person
Speaker 2: in the room. But he's just got such a great
Speaker 2: I love what he does for sports commentary. I've obviously
Speaker 2: been watching it a lot more than I ever have
Speaker 2: in my life since dating you. But he just I
Speaker 2: love his plane speak. He just says it exactly like
Speaker 2: he sees it. He doesn't try to sound like the
Speaker 2: smartest person in the room. He doesn't try to sound
Speaker 2: like he's trying to impress anyone. He just says what
Speaker 2: he thinks and more importantly, what he knows. Because he's
Speaker 2: earned the right to have that kind of commentary. He
Speaker 2: just doesn't need to prove anything, and that's such a
Speaker 2: great place to be and he's such a pleasure to watch.
Speaker 2: So he will be missed.
Speaker 1: And you know you said that, the part about not
Speaker 1: trying to prove he's smarter than anybody, and I've always look,
Speaker 1: I'll take the opportunity publicly to say this, I'll talk
Speaker 1: to him about it privately all the time. But I
Speaker 1: hate that he gets a reputation of people thinks he's
Speaker 1: a dumb jock or think he's just write some fat OVERWEG,
Speaker 1: just hot dog eatn just blabermouth type of thing. And
Speaker 1: I think he I think he's even made some money
Speaker 1: off some of that over the years, right with certain
Speaker 1: commercials with some advertise just coming after him or wanting
Speaker 1: him to be a part. But he is one of
Speaker 1: the sharpest dudes I know, and he is so in
Speaker 1: tune with business, he's in tune with culture, he's in
Speaker 1: tune with what's going on in news. And so I
Speaker 1: always hated when any time he got that because I
Speaker 1: have not made a decision in the past seventeen to
Speaker 1: eighteen years without consulting with not a major decision without
Speaker 1: consulting with him on it, and the things that have
Speaker 1: gone bad are the ones I didn't consult with him about.
Speaker 2: Wow, what does he have to say about us?
Speaker 1: See? I didn't consult with him ahead of time.
Speaker 2: He knew I was going to ask that.
Speaker 1: You know what, I didn't pulled. I thought about this
Speaker 1: earlier and didn't pull Chuck as out and say, hey,
Speaker 1: this is happening with me, and this is happening. What
Speaker 1: do you think I should do? And I, you know,
Speaker 1: next time with him, we should ask what his advice
Speaker 1: would have been, but he I didn't, But I trust
Speaker 1: him in that kind of way. He's just a sharp,
Speaker 1: sharp dude. So leaving yeah, T and T says he's
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. The speculation that he's going to go
Speaker 1: with other places, and this is just a part of
Speaker 1: a ploy and he's not really going to retire. The
Speaker 1: dude wants to just enjoy. He's made enough money, he's
Speaker 1: lived enough life, and he wants to enjoy that life.
Speaker 1: So Chuck, we love your brother, and we will see
Speaker 1: you back here. We're still holding on to your wine.
Speaker 2: And oh, yeah, well, well my dad had a bottle. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Better get here before dad gets back, because we don't
Speaker 1: buy that fin of stuff.
Speaker 2: No, we don't know, we don't.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, good luck to your brother. We will
Speaker 1: see you plenty of course. But the NBA is losinggend,
Speaker 1: a legend, one of the best to ever play the game,
Speaker 1: one of the best. We forget that because a lot
Speaker 1: of kids who like m was over there looking. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know who Charles Barkley is, though, Do you ever
Speaker 1: watch him?
Speaker 2: Yes? I love seeing him on the TV basketball?
Speaker 1: Do you where? Do you where does a twenty two
Speaker 1: year old see Charles Barkley if you're not watching NBA.
Speaker 2: Basketball online but mostly next to my dad watching sports.
Speaker 1: Ah, And what does your dad tell you about Charles Barklay.
Speaker 5: He loves him, he would love to be his friend, but.
Speaker 1: Had no idea that he was the round mound to rebound.
Speaker 1: He is a eleven time NBA All Star, he was
Speaker 1: the MVP in the early nineties, went to the NBA.
Speaker 1: All right, all these things about him. He was just
Speaker 1: a great, great, great basketball player. So we gotta miss
Speaker 1: Chuck on the air, but we'll see him playing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's going to be a great, great, great
Speaker 2: great friend. Now he's going to have a lot of
Speaker 2: free time.
Speaker 1: Well, he's always been a better friend than Matt James.
Speaker 1: Let's just make that care. Chuck will show up Rain.
Speaker 1: He actually prefers to be with me when things are
Speaker 1: going great, yes, because we party. Yeah, and when things
Speaker 1: go bad, he'll show up as well. Folks. That's what
Speaker 1: we got for it. We appreciate you all listening as always.
Speaker 1: You can find us, of course on Instagram, the official show,
Speaker 1: pa at Amy and TJ Podcast. But from now, bro,
Speaker 1: I leave them with something, give them something profound. Y'allhould
Speaker 1: see her face. I'm so sorry to do you like that.
Speaker 2: And you'd chose to do this on a day when
Speaker 2: I had anxiety?
Speaker 1: See this, right, isn't this the thing? We go to
Speaker 1: it so easily? There are people who are really dealing
Speaker 1: with anxiety and depression, real things, and you just want
Speaker 1: to play the card.
Speaker 2: Alright, Oh my goodness, I just say, stay cool, everyone.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna go hug get out. We'll see y'all
Speaker 1: next time.
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