WEBVTT - Fisher Stevens 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:05.560 You're listening to Ruthie's Table four in partnership with Montclair Fisher. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:08.680 Stevens and I were recently brought close together by one 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:11.880 of the greatest artists of the twentieth century, Philip Gustin, 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:15.319 and one of the greatest footballers, David Beckham. A few 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:17.520 weeks ago, he was in the River Cafe with the 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:21.840 producers of Beckham, the series he directed for Netflix. We 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.880 agreed to have breakfast at my house. A half hour 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.560 turned into more than an hour as we talked about Gustam, 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:32.800 architecture we lived in, and food we cooked. We agreed 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.519 we would continue the conversation on Ruthie's Table four when 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.000 I came to New York. So here we are at 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:44.279 this time in Fisher's house, connected through a love of Beckham, food, film, 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:48.120 and Gustam and each other. Life is good. So here 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:51.720 we are. Do you know that we asked you to 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.280 choose a recipe, yes, which is for pumpkin soup. I 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.560 have to say that this soup is amazing because it's 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.160 so thick carneada with a fork. It's just and it 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.440 really is. You'll see it's just pumpkin and you can 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.640 have it with chicken stock or vegetable stock. 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:12.280 So the pumpkin soup. This one serves six, and we 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.839 start with three tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil River 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.559 Cafe olive oil. I prefer plus extra for the crostini 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:25.039 and for serving fifty grams of unsalted butter. Make it 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.720 organic butter. If you can't, then we use two cloves 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:33.119 of garlic, peeled and finely chopped. Wash your hands afterwards, 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:38.040 a small bunch of fresh marsh room leaves. And then 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:42.800 because it's a British restaurant, we'll say kilograms and grams, 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.360 but one point five kilograms. Yeah, no, it's good. But 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.080 what is one point five kilograms? 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.560 It's about two and a half pounds. Well, two polf 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.680 pounds is a kilo, so be about three pounds. 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:57.320 Three pounds, so one point five kilograms roughly three pounds 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:02.480 of pumpkin peeled, seeded, and dice. Two hundred grams of 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:06.160 new potatoes peeled and cubed, could be we should keep 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.640 them white potatoes, right, new potatoes. Two hundred grams of 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:13.480 new potatoes, peeled and cubed. Two dried red chilies crumbled. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.760 I love making a little spice. Love chilies one liter 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:23.400 of chicken stock or vegetable stock, six slices of chibata bread, 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.680 one garlic clove peeled in half, so not the finely 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:36.400 chopped but the bread with freshly grated parmesan. Yeah, this 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.680 sounds so good. So you're gonna heat the extra virgin 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.800 olive oil and butter in a sauce pan and gently 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.480 fry the chopped garlic with the Marjorum leaves until soft. 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.760 Add the pumpkin and potatoes and continue to cook for 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:55.320 a minute. Add the chilies in the season well with 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:59.160 sea salt and black pepper, not too much salt. Pouring 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:03.320 enough stock just to cover the pumpkin. Bring to the boil, 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.919 and then turn down the heat and simmer for twenty 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:10.000 to twenty five minutes, or until the pumpkin is tender, 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:14.000 adding more stock if necessary to keep the pumpkin covered. 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:15.720 So you'll have to keep checking. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.160 On it because you don't want it watery. So you 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.280 want just enough to the pumpkin. 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.760 M Yeah, okay, that's important. Strain about a third of 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:26.120 the stock from the pumpkin and set it aside. Pour 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:31.040 the contents of the pan into a food processor and pulse. Yeah, 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.680 you know what that is like a magic mix, right, 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.280 and pulse it though, yeah. 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.119 Because you want it thick, really thick. You don't want 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:38.480 to thin purre. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:43.240 No, it's like a great meal. Return to the saucepan 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.640 and add the strained off stock plus any remaining stock. 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.000 Check for seasoning, so if you need a little more salt, 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.520 a little more pepper, you check it out there. The 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:57.000 soup will be very thick. Then reheat gently for serving. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:01.080 By the way, for the crostini. Toast the slices of chibata. 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:05.040 Then rub with the garlic calves and drizzle over extra 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:10.480 virgin River Cafe olive oil. You serve the soup with 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:14.280 Parmesan extra virgin olive oil and the crostini, and the 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:17.760 addition of two hundred grams of cannellini beans is a 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:21.919 variation of the soup which I personally recommend if you 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:26.480 make this omit the chibata crostini. I prefer the cannellini 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.800 beans to the crostini, but that's up to you. 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.919 Beans. And when you read that recipe, it is just 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:37.040 pure potatoes, pumpkins and some you know. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.640 Healthy, healthy, and you'll be full and you don't need 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:41.120 much money. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.640 It's not expensive if you're thinking, especially after Halloween, except 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:49.240 for the olive oil. River Cafe this year is insane. 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:50.960 Why because because. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.559 It was so hot this summer. I mean, there's hardly 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:54.279 going to be any. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.640 Production of where do you get? 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.880 So we have five estates in Tuscany that we buy 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.920 our wine from, and we buy it for more. But 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.440 they a lot of the wine producers make olive oil 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.760 as well, and so every year we go, we take 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.239 twenty people from if you've worked in the River Cafe 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.840 for like a year, we take you to Tuscany. We 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.200 take it actually all. Then we take another twenty to 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.920 Piermonte and then we go and teach them how they 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:18.880 make the olive oil. 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:24.520 Are your wine producers you like the Italian the Tuscan wines? 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:26.520 Yeah, we do well now we used to. You know, 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.600 our whole roots in the River Cafe were Tuscan and 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.520 when we started because Richard's family, my husband's family came 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.200 from Florence and Rose my partner, lived in Lucca. But 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.320 then you know, it was wine that really took us 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.440 to other regions. So we went to Piermonte, and we 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.719 went to the Venito, we went to Pulia. All of 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.040 who make wine, and so it's not just I love 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.040 a tuscan you know I love them? Do you drink wine? 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:48.920 Yes, quite a bit. 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:53.000 Maybe's become a big Yeah. 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.400 I'm very into Etna. I'm very into Sicilian wines. I've 0:05:56.440 --> 0:06:00.400 been there. I've toured a few vineyards in Sicily. I 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:03.720 love and I love the natural wines of Sicily. Particularly 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.120 once I started making money, I would just go big 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:11.440 with food. Wine. I've blown a great portion of my respect. 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.159 Well, you know, I think it's really interesting that people 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.039 sort of measure their success in what they were able 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.240 to eat. So Beckham, you know, I remember we did 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.279 a podcast with him and he was saying that he 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:26.080 remembers being able to go to a restaurant and not 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.880 look at the right side of the the page, you know, 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.839 Or that McCartney said that he thought wine was terrible 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.719 because he'd only had cheap wine, never had a good 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.480 bottle of wine until Brian Epstein took him to to eat. 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.039 Was that yeah the case? Yeah? 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.760 Well yeah, And I remember the first one of the 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:53.080 first proper meals I ever had was my girlfriend took 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:57.159 me to twenty one for my twenty first birthday, and 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.640 that was fancy. That's that was the begin of like 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:05.440 wow people, you know. And then my first bottle of 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.720 proper wine because I hated wine too. Was and I 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:13.280 was doing a play at Williamstown. Arthur Miller's play I 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.800 was playing Arthur Young Arthur Miller is called American Clock. 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:17.520 It was about Arthur Miller. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.760 Yeah, by Arthur Miller, about Arthur Miller. Arthur Miller was there. 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:24.120 He was rewriting the play while we were. I mean, 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:25.960 it was incredible, and he said to me, like, you'll 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.640 get it when the closest kid, you know, didn't give 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.239 me much confidence. But the guy who played my father 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.080 was a guy nam is, a guy named Ron Rifkin 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.880 who's one of my great friends. And he took me 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:39.880 out and he said, have you ever had read wine? 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.200 I said, yeah, I don't like it. He goes, oh no, oh, no, no, no, 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.800 have you ever tasted it? Do you know what bordeuis? 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:46.960 Do you know what Burgundy is? Do you know? I'm like, no, 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:52.120 barol no. He goes, okay, and he and to this 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:56.280 day he's eighty four. He comes over, I go to 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:01.000 we drink incredible wine together. Still, so that was when 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.960 I was like twenty two, and then he got me hooked, 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:08.400 and then I just I'm obsessed now with mostly red 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:13.400 French Italian the good stuff or yeah, but anyway. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.400 Do you think back so you were you started acting? 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.080 Did you go to college or acting school? Or did 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.360 you were you ever on your own in a place 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:28.160 where you had to not eat out but cook for yourself? Oh? Sorry, 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.320 The first question is what was your college? Did you 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:30.720 go to? 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:31.280 No? 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:32.240 I after high school? 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.120 Yeah, I dropped out of high school. I started auditioning 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:40.800 at like fifteen for shows and plays. I got off 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.480 off Broadway, my first stuff when I could still use 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.120 my name before I had to join a union. And 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:51.880 then I started working as a busboy in two restaurants 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:56.560 in New York and as a bike messenger and making money, 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.280 like good money, like more money than my mom. And 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.360 then I got my first job at sixteen, had to 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.800 change my name. It was a movie over the summer. 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.160 Didn't pay that much, but I thought I'm gonna make it. 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.040 But no, of course I didn't work again for like 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.440 a year and a half, two years, but I was 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.720 eating out. Yeah, and and and I. While in high school, 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:20.520 I worked two nights a week. Do you remember a restaurant. 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:24.160 Mario Batally ended up opening a place called Esca in 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.560 the same spot, but it was called Curtain Up forty 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.120 third and Night. It was all right. It was a 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.720 busboy there, and I was a busblay at a very 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:36.040 groovy kind of hipster upper east Side Singles place called 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:40.800 Yellow Fingers on sixtieth and third Avenue. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.040 Do you think about food and one did they? 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:48.720 Well, no, no, no, no, because I just was. Now 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:53.000 those places were not those were Hamburger. Those weren't, you know, 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:54.520 like great places. 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:58.320 No did a teacher in a restaurant I was at peep. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.720 One of the reasons I love Americans coming to the 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:04.360 River Cafe is that most Americans have at one time 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.960 in their life worked in a restaurant. And I think 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:07.920 that teaches you. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:13.440 It gave me such respect for waiters and bus boys. 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.360 Some of the things that I saw in those kitchens, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:20.400 you would never ever have that at River Cafe. 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.000 I mean anger and bullying. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.200 And anger bullying, but also not even that, just the 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:30.880 way they handled the food. Okay, yeah, but so I think, 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.240 and also that culture of eating out, you know. And 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.280 then I go to school and then you know what 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.840 I said, My senior year in high school, I did 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:40.679 like two months and I was like, forget it. I'm 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.240 just going to work. My Mom's like, okay, you might 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.560 as well. You're making more money than me. And I 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:51.720 was auditioning and studying acting very seriously. And then I 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:53.680 couldn't really get a job. And then there was a 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.120 kid that I knew and through auditioning and in high 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.000 school he went to another high school. Two kids, actually 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.800 one of them is named Matthew Broaderick, and Matthew Broderick 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.400 I bumped into him and he's like, hey, man, I'm 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.480 in this play. It's maybe moving to Broadway and I 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.040 just got a bigger play and I'm leaving. I'll get 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.560 you an audition to replace me. And he got me 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.640 the audition to replace him, and the play was called 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:24.520 Torch Song Trilogy, and I got the job nineteen eighty two. 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.280 It was in a little theater and Sheridan Square. It 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.800 was kind of a revolutionary gay play by Harvey Firestein. 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.360 And Matthew got me the audition and I got the 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:39.560 job and that was it. I started working from and 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:44.600 basically almost since then, I've been working. And then Matthew 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.880 was in a play called Brighton Beach Memoirs that and 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:49.760 he was going to leave that, and then he got 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.280 me an audition to replace him in that, and then 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:53.160 I replaced him in that. 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:57.120 He did, Yeah, he was in the restaurant the other well, 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:58.280 you know, they're coming. 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:02.000 To do Plaza this week, and they were there. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.320 I wasn't there that night, but he they like to eat. 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.120 Oh yeah, oh, I've had some great meals with Matthew. 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.200 Well yeah, as a matter of fact, okay, so this 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:16.000 is food story. So when I was replacing Matthew and 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.680 Brighton Beach Memrs, Matthew was making money. He was going 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.640 to do Ferris Bueller, right, he was going to go 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.040 do the movie or something, I believe, And he would 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:28.400 take me out to dinner at this amazing place. I 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.640 don't think it's still there. Maybe it is fifty second 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:36.960 Street called Gallagher's Steakhouse. Gallagher's Steakhouse was the place the 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.360 sports guys, everybody went in, and he bought me dinner 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.760 a few times. They're big dinner is serious because he 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.480 was making bank, man, you know, and we yeah, we 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:48.600 used to go and we would drink Martiniz. I think 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:54.360 I was eighteen. It was illegal, len but who cares now? Food? 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.280 It was so key. And then when you're on Broadway, right, 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.120 you're acting at night, you're done with the show, you 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:00.880 go to restaurants. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.760 So that's what I asked. You know, your friend Ray, 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:07.320 you know other actors you eat before the play? Do 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.720 you eat after the play? Well, we had a couple 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:13.000 who ate before the play. Yeah. Really, it's a few, 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.400 but most I always meet them. You know, if you 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.439 have a friend in the theater, you meet afterwards and 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:19.200 then you go out. 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.200 Yeah, well you don't want to be too, but you 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:23.760 don't want to be you don't want to go on 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:25.400 stage with the full stomach. 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.040 You ever had to eat on stage? 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:27.520 Yeah? 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:28.040 Something? 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:28.440 Yeah? 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:29.280 Is that a fake? 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:31.720 No? No? No, yeah, a little bit, you know, like 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.080 Brighton Beach. Every night we had to pretend to have 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.560 dinner and you know, apple sauce. But you just take 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.440 a couple of bit no, and and and the worst 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.400 is in movies because you have to recreate. You know. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:44.440 The thing about Succession? 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.280 Uh yeah, we can talk about it. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.080 Yeah. The thing about Succession is that there was a 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.520 lot of scenes where you're supposed to be eating, but 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:57.400 nobody's ever eating because you can't recreate the position and 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.559 how much is there. Because of the way we shoot 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:00.200 the show. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.120 You'd have to have the same thing and the same 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:03.720 take the. 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:05.960 Yeah, and because of the way we shot in big 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.800 giant chunks, it was impossible. And people noticed. There's like 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.760 a whole website about why do nobody Why does nobody eat? 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.280 On Succession? Like literally that people notice that. 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:20.600 But because a lot of the drama takes place in 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.880 tables or in you know, in cocktail parties. 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.160 Or I like that because there's always a sense of 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.120 the tension about being sitting down to eat but not 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.080 eating because there was so much drama happening. I think 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:34.800 that's also quite you know, lots of people talk about 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.120 actually sitting down to the table is a very kind 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.160 of positive experience but can also be a very challenging experience, 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.080 and that's what Succession really challenging. 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.360 Yeah, I mean I never because my character never sits 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.040 still so and I'm never invited to the table to eat. 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.320 I'm always just told what to do. But sadly, but 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.160 that was good for my I didn't have to worry 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:55.560 about the food on the plate. 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:59.240 But did they feed you all the actors? Because that's 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.120 another thing isn't it what you feed? Yeah, I talked 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.480 to Wes. You know, Wes's dream would be not to 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:05.280 stop for lunch. 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:06.560 You know, he told, what do you mean? 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:06.840 That's it? 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.200 That's what you don't stop for lunch. Wes and Succession 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.840 and now you know, I'm working on Guy Ritchie movie. 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:18.840 All these productions we do French hours, so there's no 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.640 real break for lunch. You work through lunch French hours. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.920 You only work ten hour days, right like in the 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.280 old you know, in many days, my early days of 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.560 making movies, you shoot fourteen hour days, but that would 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.240 include like an hour where you all sit and eat. 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:41.080 Succession post COVID found it much more manageable and you 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.120 get much more done if you don't break. But they'll 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.520 hand you like a box, and in the box is 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:52.520 just crap. Wes is different because like on Asteroid City, 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:56.120 if we were working, you know, all the good news 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.160 about being on a Wes movie is that you're usually 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.200 a smaller part, so you only work like four hour days, 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.000 so then you can go and have a big lunch. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.240 But if you're working a ten hour day with West 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.040 or an eight hour day with Wes, they have like 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:13.600 on Asteroid city we were in Spain, and yeah, it 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.560 would be a carton, but the food was it was 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:20.280 much not to knock successions catering, but much better on 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.200 a west On West's movies than. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.520 Do you think that's a European versus that. 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.120 Yeah, I think it's European. I think Jeremy Dawson and 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.560 Wes they like food. Jeremy is the producer, but yeah, 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.280 they are. It is better. It's just it's fun. I 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:37.880 love hanging out with but that the social experience experience 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.400 after work, sitting at a table with everybody talking and 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.480 eating and it's really nice. Nice, it's like a family. 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.520 Well especially the last one. We were quarantined together and 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.480 we weren't even allowed to go into Madrid, which is 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.000 you know, we had to stay in Chin Chong and 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.520 there's not much to do in Chin Chung. So but 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.520 but but the food is good and yeah, and I've 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.040 had great meals with Wes. 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.840 But what about when you were directing your decision? Isn't 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:04.280 it to say what I'm going to do about? 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:08.359 Yeah? So my my feature that I last did in 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.440 New Orleans, which is right before COVID, we actually tried 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.439 an experiment with a healthy catering company, but it didn't 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:20.840 work out. No, I loved it, but the crew, you know, 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:25.520 we we were shooting in Louisiana and they, yeah, they 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:26.960 liked their meat, their pigs. 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.440 It's very male about men who want It's a lot 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:30.800 of men. 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.320 But yeah, it's not only men, but but even the 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:40.119 women they wanted they wanted substances. But so that didn't 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:44.440 go great. But I also my last thing I directed 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.960 for APP this pilot, Dear Edward. I did the West 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.840 French hours and uh, the food wasn't great either, but 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.440 we you know, the days are shorter and the crew 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.000 gets to go home earlier, but we don't break fully 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.879 for lunch, but you get your box of lunch and 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:02.919 then you break for twenty minutes and then we go. 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.439 But it makes the day a lot faster. 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.199 Can I ask a question, Yeah, I just not that 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.880 many successful actors end up being successful directors. Well motivated 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:13.520 that word enable that. 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:19.159 Well. I to be honest, I would do these movies 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.040 as an actor and then I would see them and 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.639 I would be like, God, this is not very good, 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.639 not all of them. But I can do this. I 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.520 want to do this because the script was great or 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.439 I mean I mean, there were other directors that I 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.200 worked with where I would be like, oh my god, 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.439 they're so good. I want to learn. So it was 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:42.080 a combination. I kind of liked watching certain directors direct Yeah, 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:45.119 I don't know. And to be honest, like waiting for 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.399 the job as an actor and just being an actor, 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:51.000 it becomes all about you and how you look and 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.520 you you you you as opposed to make you know, 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.160 being a character in a painting. I wanted to paint 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:00.960 the painting and uh, but I love acting and I 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:04.760 like bouncing back and forth as much as I possibly can. 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.360 Did you know The River Cafe has a shop. It's 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.720 full of our favorite foods and designs. We have cookbooks, 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:24.120 Linden Napkins, kitchen ware, tote bags with our signatures, glasses 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:27.520 from Venice, chocolates from Turin. You can find us right 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.720 next door to the River Cafe in London or online 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:42.040 at shop Therivercafe dot co dot uk. So Fisher, here 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:46.280 we are in your beautiful house with your beautiful photographs. 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.560 Thank you, Brooklyn, Fort Green, Brooklyn. 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.200 Yeah, to tell me about Fort Green, Brooklyn? Where are we? 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:56.320 Well, it's an interesting neighborhood. I played on my high 0:19:56.359 --> 0:20:02.760 school softball team in the late seven and we played 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.840 like four blocks away at a park called Fort Green Park, 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:11.240 and on two occasions, after once winning and once losing, 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:16.879 I was mugged after the game by local neighborhood kids. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:21.960 When we saw this house, many many many moons later, 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.399 that was for sale, we were about to have our 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.840 first child, Lexi Bloom and Eye. I first was a 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.760 bit hesitant, but the neighborhood had changed quite a bit. 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.520 And as we were looking at the house, we opened 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:35.399 the door in the back porch and I'm looking at 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:37.800 it and there's a woman on the on the porch 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:40.600 next door chairs fish eye is that yell? And I'm 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.720 like Rosie, and she goes, are you are you going 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:47.560 to buy the house? That's a terrible impersonation of Rosie Perez, 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.520 But Rosie Perez is my next door neighbor, and he's like, 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.240 the neighborhood's changed. You love it. I've been here forever. 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.600 That's the worst, Rosie Press. I'm just my accent's back. 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:01.520 But anyway, so here we are, and uh, the neighborhood. 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.119 Yeah, And did you live in Manhattan before? 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.639 I actually had moved to Brooklyn in two thousand and 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.800 five after thirty plus years in Manhattan. But I will 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.000 say my my neighborhood. And it's too bad. You know, 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.159 we can't go to dinner tonight because there are like 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:20.720 seven great restaurants now on decalb Avenue, which is near 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:26.680 you know, around the corner, and it has become restaurant road. Well, 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.560 the most the kind of landmark place. The first one 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:33.640 that's or the oldest one is called Romans and it's 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:37.359 an it's a they changed the menu every night. It's great. 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:41.119