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Speaker 1: talk about the Democrats. There were leadership elections today, all

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Speaker 1: about previously its strategic waypoint. The immediate reaction was that

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Speaker 1: Poland says that Russian made missiles hit their territory and

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Speaker 1: can offer all of you. The Polish Foreign Minister and

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Speaker 1: John Kaysick and all those people is none of them

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Speaker 1: wanted to drop out, giving Trump the ability to clinch

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Speaker 1: the nomination despite not getting a total majority of GOP

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Speaker 1: votes in the early primaries. Well, DeSantis is not going

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Speaker 1: to be the only guy running. Mike Pence is doing

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Speaker 1: the rounds for interviews with his book. We played some

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Speaker 1: of it in our last show. He sat down with

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity just today, were he all but confirmed he

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Speaker 1: is going to run for president. Let's take a lesson.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about your future politically. You're

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Speaker 1: going to get back in the arena thinking about it

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Speaker 1: on the fence, where are you? I can tell you,

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Speaker 1: Karen and I are seriously considering what role we might

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Speaker 1: play in the future, and including as a candidate for

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Speaker 1: public office. Again, you know, there's only one office that

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Speaker 1: I think you'd run for. Well, you're right, So he says,

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Speaker 1: you're right, there's only one office I'd be thinking about.

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Speaker 1: He's I mean, the man is on a book tour

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Speaker 1: right now, going sitting down Sean Hannity, of course, is

449
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Speaker 1: like the biggest Trump booster of all time and trying

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Speaker 1: to get back in good with conservative media. Do I

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Speaker 1: think that Mike Fence's potential presidential run is really going anywhere? No?

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Speaker 1: Could he potentially get ten points of that anti Trump

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Speaker 1: vote and cut into DeSantis' margin? Yes? Absolutely, last time

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Speaker 1: I check, Cristo was a lot of other states on

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Speaker 1: Super Tuesday. A lot of evens jelicals who live in

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Speaker 1: those states, they like Mike Pence. Mike Pence is going

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Speaker 1: hard defending abortion. I was just reading a New York

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Speaker 1: Times piece this morning wherever he did an interview with

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Speaker 1: Maggie Haberman over at the New York Times, and he

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Speaker 1: was enthusiastic about the Dobbs decision. He was taking credit

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Speaker 1: for the Dobbs decision, making sure that people knew that

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Speaker 1: it was he who helped do the Supreme Court test.

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Speaker 1: And you know, people forget one of the reasons to

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Speaker 1: Trump pick Mike Pence is he had real credibility with

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Speaker 1: the evangelicals who crawled over glass to vote for him

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. And I predict well they will have

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Speaker 1: to be somewhat split because Trump ultimately was the guy

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Speaker 1: who delivered for them. But many of them know that

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Speaker 1: Pence was the real driver's seat behind putting social conservatism

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Speaker 1: there to the test. Don't forget ted Cruz won a

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Speaker 1: sizeable portion of the GOP vote in twenty sixteen, and

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Speaker 1: he was explicitly running against Obergafel on the same abortion

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Speaker 1: position as Mike Pence. We can't count that out. At

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Speaker 1: the same time, Desantan is not going to want for money,

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Speaker 1: not at all. Let's put this up there. Ken Griffin,

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Speaker 1: you guys might remember him from Game Stop. Well, the

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Speaker 1: multi billionaire worth some twenty nine billion dollars. I love this,

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Speaker 1: by the way, speaking in Singapore at a conference, said

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Speaker 1: that three time loser Trump needs to step aside for

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Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis for what he has said both publicly and privately,

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Speaker 1: Crystal Ken Griffin is effectively guaranteeing a blank check for

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Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis if he wanted to run for president. Now

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Speaker 1: that by the way, go ahead and read the subhead there.

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Speaker 1: It says that the US is playing for fire when

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Speaker 1: it comes to China's tech limits. So at the very

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Speaker 1: same time that he is advocating for Ron DeSantis to run,

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Speaker 1: he's also like, Yeah, we need to stop that trade

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Speaker 1: war with China. You know, that's really creating tensions with

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Speaker 1: all of us. One good thing that did and that

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Speaker 1: Biden is doing, the best thing that Trump did. Effectively,

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Speaker 1: Trump ushered in a paradigm shift and has now made

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Speaker 1: at the dominant position to be to have want a

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Speaker 1: trade war with China. It's the very least. Let's put

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Speaker 1: trade warside protect American industry. That is the one thing

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Speaker 1: that this multi billionaire Ken Griffin doesn't want. So always

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Speaker 1: pay attention to what some of the wants that these

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Speaker 1: people have growth problem too, the tax cuts, but the

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Speaker 1: trade the like one thing Trump did that was actually

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Speaker 1: decent and directionally correct, that's the part they have the

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Speaker 1: issue with. Go and so then finally let's get to

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Speaker 1: the ultimate shot across the bow. Ron DeSantis finally asked

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Speaker 1: about Trump's comments, Ron de sanctimonious all of that. He

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Speaker 1: gave some veiled criticism and hit back. I guess in

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Speaker 1: his own little Dessanti's way. Let's take a listen. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the things I've learned, like learning

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Speaker 1: this job, is when you're doing, when you're leading, when

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Speaker 1: you're getting getting things done. Yeah, you take incoming fire.

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Speaker 1: That's just the nature of it. I roll out of

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Speaker 1: bed in the morning. I've got corporate media outlets that

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Speaker 1: have a spasm just the fact that I'm getting up

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Speaker 1: in the morning and it's constantly attacking. And this is

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Speaker 1: just what's happened. I don't think any governor got attacked more,

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Speaker 1: particularly by corporate media than me over my four year term.

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Speaker 1: And yet I think what you what you learn is

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Speaker 1: all that's just noise, And really what matters is are

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Speaker 1: you leading, are you getting in front of issues, are

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Speaker 1: you delivering results for people? And are you standing up

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Speaker 1: for folks? And if you do that, then none of

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Speaker 1: that stuff matters. And that's what we've done. We focused

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Speaker 1: on results and leadership. And you know, at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, I would just tell people to go

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Speaker 1: check out the scoreboard from last Tuesday night. What did

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Speaker 1: you think of the scoreboard? I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: bit of a weak response, because I think he should

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Speaker 1: have just led with that. I think it would have

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Speaker 1: been had some gravitas to it if he was like,

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Speaker 1: I'll let the comment, I will let the election results

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Speaker 1: speak for themselves something like that. That was a little

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Speaker 1: because he was trying to conflate trump criticism with the

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Speaker 1: corporate media, and I'm like, well, hold on a second, dude,

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Speaker 1: Like what are we talking about here. The whole wind

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Speaker 1: up to it just spoke to like him being uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: obviously making the because yeah, if you're ready to go

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Speaker 1: out and take the shot, you just take the shot.

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Speaker 1: And so I mean that's the thing is Trump is

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Speaker 1: clearly wary of DeSantis. He's clearly watching his back, starting

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Speaker 1: to take some shots, trying to take the air out

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Speaker 1: of the Dasantis balloon. But as wary of Dasantis as

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Speaker 1: Trump is, like, DeSantis is clearly very afraid of Trump,

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Speaker 1: you know, and understandably. So, yes, I mean this is

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Speaker 1: still Trump's party and uh so yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: look at this and it does to me remind me

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Speaker 1: of some little digs and jabs that we've seen from

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Speaker 1: this or that Republican or other primary contenders back in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, and you know, ultimately this is all you got.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be enough. I think you're correct, and

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Speaker 1: you know, it reminds me of exactly. Remember we played

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Speaker 1: Mike Pence's clip in our last show whenever he was

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Speaker 1: asked to criticize Trump over January sixth. Yeah, he took

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Speaker 1: an almost ten second pause. Guys for who haven't watched

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Speaker 1: the clip, And the reason I was. I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: he's just calculating his head. He's like, how much can

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Speaker 1: I say? How far can I go? Not too critical?

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Speaker 1: I've I've had a meeting once with Mike pants, like

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Speaker 1: back when I was in the White House. Yeah, everything

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Speaker 1: that man says when the camera's on very careful, very careful,

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Speaker 1: very calculated. It's a little different whenever camera's not rolling.

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Speaker 1: And I watch that and I was like, that is

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Speaker 1: the Pence that I remember covering as a White House correspondent,

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Speaker 1: hyper calibrated language. So to watch him, to watch DeSantis.

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Speaker 1: The fact is that we are here tonight to cover

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump running again for the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 1: To come at the King you best not miss, as

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Speaker 1: they said in the wire, And for me to watch

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Speaker 1: Mike Pence and Ron DeSantis still effectively sitting on their heels.

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is you can talk

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Speaker 1: in the media all you want. We're your consultants. Do

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Speaker 1: you have a proper super pac? Are you ready to roll?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to go to You better get your

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Speaker 1: ass on a plane to Iowa. You better get your

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Speaker 1: plass on an ass on a plane to New Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: You better get ready for Super Tuesday for Nevada. You

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Speaker 1: know we're going about to talk about this. Actually, let's

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Speaker 1: go ahead and move on. Campaign. This is why it matters,

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Speaker 1: which is that in the campaign section, let's put this

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Speaker 1: up there on the screen. We have some of the

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Speaker 1: staff which is getting ready. We can see now that

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Speaker 1: inside of the twenty twenty four announcement, the headline here

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Speaker 1: is the dicey one. Still though Trump Crystal is putting

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Speaker 1: together a team, there is no team that yet exists

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Speaker 1: for the DeSantis organization. Who is his campaign manager? Well,

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Speaker 1: if you read this article, you find out that his

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Speaker 1: campaign manager from twenty eighteen, she ran Trump's get out

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Speaker 1: the vote effort in twenty twenty and now she's working

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Speaker 1: for Donald Trump in his re election strategy. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be one of his top strategists. So you don't even

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Speaker 1: have your old campaign manager. You don't have consultants. Trump

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Speaker 1: has Kelly and Conway, he has many of the veterans

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Speaker 1: of the twenty sixteen campaign. He wants to run a

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Speaker 1: much leaner, smaller organization like the twenty sixteen campaign. Not

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Speaker 1: let it get as co opted by the RNC. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Let's go and put the Washington Post hair sheet up

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Speaker 1: there as well. They also report on some of the

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Speaker 1: insiders stuff. But what's happening. The reason that these things matter, guys,

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Speaker 1: is that these are the nitty gritty nuts and bolts

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Speaker 1: of campaigns. So we're talking there previously about DeSantis and

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Speaker 1: Susan Wilds. She is the woman who literally ran his campaign,

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Speaker 1: but she also ran Trump in twenty sixteen and Trump

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Speaker 1: and twenty twenty. Stephen Chung, who I remember. He's to

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Speaker 1: work at the UFC. Actually, who's on the Trump campaign.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be running communications. Another thing that they point

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Speaker 1: to is that the Trump Make America Great Again super

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Speaker 1: pack ready to roll. And not only that they have

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Speaker 1: the old Trump email list, they're the ones who have

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Speaker 1: been fundraising for his fake stop to steal lawsuits they're

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Speaker 1: the ones who have been fundraising during the Senate. He

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Speaker 1: has what I mean, millions and millions of emails. He's

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Speaker 1: got his new director of that super pack ready to go,

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Speaker 1: presumably in order to rake in all of the donations.

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Speaker 1: Like he's got the infrastructure, the juggernaut, the incumbency like

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Speaker 1: that is so difficult to beat in a true head

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Speaker 1: to head matchup. For DeSantis to pull this off, it

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Speaker 1: has to be the coup of the century. And you

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Speaker 1: have to have a ground game. You have to have money,

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Speaker 1: you have to have an organization. Who's he got. I

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Speaker 1: don't see anybody yet. You can say that it's coming,

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Speaker 1: but every day it's coming. Donald Trump is here, he's

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Speaker 1: announcing tonight. He's ready to roll. He's ready to get

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Speaker 1: the money. He's got everything he possibly needs. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: that's why I thought all the chatter about like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we should wait and till after the Georgia run, I

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Speaker 1: was like, no, Like, I mean maybe for the good

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Speaker 1: of the party. He doesn't give a shit about the

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Speaker 1: good of the party, exactly of himself and always has

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Speaker 1: and always will. So your scenario about like, okay, let's

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Speaker 1: say Ron de Santis does win, you think Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: is just gonna go quietly. You think he's gonna, you know,

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Speaker 1: endorse Rondo Santa's. Oh, he just got the best of me.

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Speaker 1: Gosh darned. It was a great race. But in the end,

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Speaker 1: Old Ronnie pul of course not. Of course, he's not

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Speaker 1: going to do that. I mean, whatever happens here, he's

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Speaker 1: going to create chaos and heartburn and potential disaster for

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party and also, by the way, potentially for

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Speaker 1: the country. But you know, going back to what you

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Speaker 1: were saying about the apparatus and the organization. Also look

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Speaker 1: at what a hold Trump continues to have on elected

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Speaker 1: leaders in Washington. There were leadership votes going on today. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he does. He and Mitch McConnell are in some kind

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Speaker 1: of a feud, but Mitch McConnell has never moved against him.

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Speaker 1: After January sixth, floated it a little bit, thought about it,

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Speaker 1: ultimately did absolutely nothing, and he's not going to do

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Speaker 1: anything now either. In the House side, Trump actually backed

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy, who you know, sought his endorsement. McCarthy won today.

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Speaker 1: There were maybe about thirty votes who dissented, led by

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Speaker 1: Matt Gates and Andy Biggs. Is their potential candidate. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you still see that's a weird one because

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Speaker 1: it's almost like either faction wins. Trump wins because it's

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Speaker 1: the America First MAGA hardcore people who are going against McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: But McCarthy has the Trump endorsement. So you see that.

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Speaker 1: You see at the R and c Ronald McDaniel has

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Speaker 1: been a stalwart ally of Donald Trump, and that apparatus

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Speaker 1: matters a lot also in terms of fundraising and these

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Speaker 1: you know, billionaires who are going over to DeSantis. I

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Speaker 1: think DeSantis would have plenty of money if you decided

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Speaker 1: to run. I don't think that would be an issue

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Speaker 1: for him. But Trump already has his coffers plenty filled

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Speaker 1: and didn't spend a whole lot on these candidates in

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Speaker 1: the elections either. By the way, he's cash flushed to

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Speaker 1: a degree which I think is difficult to imagine. Now

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Speaker 1: look once again, he was cash fleash than twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: and then is what at Brad Parscale, that moron blew

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Speaker 1: all of his money and then leading up to election

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Speaker 1: day turned out that he actually didn't have that much

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Speaker 1: money on camp on hand. So don't ever underestimate the

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Speaker 1: idiots that Trump does hire who end up squandering some

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Speaker 1: of his campaign still very much possibility. But I think

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Speaker 1: what it comes back to me is when you're the incumbent,

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Speaker 1: when you're the presumptive leader, the former president, the most

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Speaker 1: popular Republican in the country since Ronald Reagan, especially with

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Speaker 1: the Republican base, it's really yours, and then you're going

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Speaker 1: to take somebody like that off, it requires a gargantuan effort.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, look, as we have said a

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Speaker 1: million times, so many balls up in the air. It's

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Speaker 1: probably going to get indicted, although in my opinion that

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Speaker 1: helps him, you know, whatever from the Republican helps him

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Speaker 1: with the Republican base that they're prosecuting our man Trump.

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Speaker 1: On the terms of electability, here is the ultimate question

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Speaker 1: that we do not have the answer to. Does the

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Speaker 1: GOP base care about electability? And my personal answer, I

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Speaker 1: don't think so. I'll tell you why. They nominated carry Lake,

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Speaker 1: they nominated that joke Bye, they nominated boldock Y, they

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Speaker 1: nominated Blake Masters, they nominated a slew of those loss

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Speaker 1: in the last election based solely on the word of

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Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump. So does that now? Will they learn

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Speaker 1: their lesson I don't know. And you know, the one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons why I think it matters is people

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Speaker 1: should remember twenty twelve, the base never loved Mit Romney.

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Speaker 1: They begrudgingly went along because they were told by Republican

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Speaker 1: elites he's the electable one. Guys, he speaks well, he's

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Speaker 1: the Massachusetts governor. Yeah, he wasn't with us on Obamacare,

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Speaker 1: that's okay. Yeah, he wasn't necessarily with us on this

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Speaker 1: fight or Benghazi or birthrism or whatever. Let's put it

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Speaker 1: to the side. Let's all show up to the votes

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Speaker 1: and beat him. Then he lost against Obama. So what

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Speaker 1: they learned is a real converse lesson When GOP elites

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Speaker 1: are telling him electability, don't believe them. And then second

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Speaker 1: they nominated their gut instick Donald Trump and were told

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Speaker 1: a million times he was lose and then he won.

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Speaker 1: So why do they have any credibility with the base itself.

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Speaker 1: That is a structural problem which has not been solved

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Speaker 1: in the Republican Party right now. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: tend to agree with you. I mean, let's just go

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Speaker 1: through though really quickly, and then we're going to bring

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Speaker 1: in Ryan and Etaly. You know this is why DeSantis

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Speaker 1: and Co smell blood in the water. So one of

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Speaker 1: Trump's highest profile picks here, who had the best chance

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Speaker 1: of any of the stop the Steel gubernatorial nominees to win,

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Speaker 1: Carrie Lake, now official she has lost. She will not

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Speaker 1: be governor of Arizona. That means let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: go to the second element in the sea block here.

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Speaker 1: Of all of the wins and losses of Trump, he

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Speaker 1: lost every single governor's race, safer one Lombardo in Nevada,

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Speaker 1: who I don't think was an election denier directly. In

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Speaker 1: the Senate, he lost all of them except for incumbent

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Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson, who nearly squeaks by and herschel Walker

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Speaker 1: who is behind but went to the runoff. And for

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Speaker 1: secretary of State, and these ones really mattered, because I

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Speaker 1: mean secretary of State is just about running elections. Basically,

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Speaker 1: every single one of his candidates lost. These are in

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Speaker 1: the swing states. In other states around the country, different story,

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Speaker 1: but in terms of these key swing states, the win

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Speaker 1: loss record is just plainly, absolutely abysmal to me, Fincham,

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Speaker 1: the secretary of state candidates are the ones that mattered

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Speaker 1: the most. They were going to throw us into potential

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Speaker 1: constitutional crisis for some sort of crazy stop the Steel

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Speaker 1: non states in twenty twenty four, and voters showed up

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Speaker 1: and said no, hell no. And the reason why I

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Speaker 1: think that matters is that, look, guys, the Republicans pulled

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Speaker 1: off some crazy upsets in Arizona. You're just not hearing

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Speaker 1: about them because they're in the House of Representatives. Normal

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Speaker 1: Republicans run who ran very not major stop the Steel races.

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Speaker 1: They were able to beat Democrats Rat Rathensberger Georgia. But Trump, famously,

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Speaker 1: in that phone call that everybody heard and everything, he

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Speaker 1: I think got a higher vote percentage than even Brian Kemp,

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Speaker 1: who also, of course famously was independent minded when it

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Speaker 1: came to stop this deal. And so it's just as

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Speaker 1: clear as it could possibly be. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: you know, you have a lot of soul searching going

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Speaker 1: on on the Republican side, including Senator Josh Holly, who

740
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Speaker 1: says now that the old Republican Party is dead. Let's

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Speaker 1: take a listen to that. I think that this election

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Speaker 1: was the funeral for the Republican parties we know it.

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Speaker 1: The Republican Party as we have known it is dead,

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Speaker 1: and voters have made that clear. And in particular, the

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Speaker 1: folks who did not vote for Republicans in this last

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Speaker 1: election were independent voters, working class independent voters, folks who

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Speaker 1: voted for President Obama once upon a time, Folks who

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Speaker 1: then voted for President Trump but stayed home this time.

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Speaker 1: We are not a majority party unless we can appeal

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Speaker 1: to those voters. When he says that, what does he

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Speaker 1: mean by that? So I think he means on the

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Speaker 1: economic front. Holly, of course was with Trump on stop

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Speaker 1: the Steals, the first senator really to endorse stop the

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Speaker 1: Stith picture. Unfortunate picture for him that came out. I

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Speaker 1: think he wants to look. Holly is a conundrum because

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Speaker 1: it's difficult to get your head around he believes in

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Speaker 1: some very unpopular socially conservative positions. I haven't yet heard

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Speaker 1: well how he's going to vote on this gay marriage bill,

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Speaker 1: so presumable, guys, we got an announcement from Senator Heidi

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Speaker 1: high Camp that sixty Senators had signed on to pass

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Speaker 1: during lame duck a gay marriage bill through the US Senate.

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Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see how he votes on that.

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Speaker 1: He cheered the Dobbs decision. At the same time, he

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Speaker 1: is a believer that you can have on popular social

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Speaker 1: conservatism and pair it with popular economics and then have

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Speaker 1: that be the winner. So in his criticism immediately after,

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Speaker 1: he talks about the GOP vote on insulin prices famously.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if people remember during the Inflation Reduction

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Speaker 1: Act he voted with the Democrats to make sure that

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Speaker 1: you could bargain on insulin for the federal government and

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Speaker 1: medicare on a couple of other economic issues. So I

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Speaker 1: think that is where his head is at. Now do

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Speaker 1: I think it will work, I don't know. Part of

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Speaker 1: the things that I said very often was, hey, if

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Speaker 1: you align yourself with this crazy stop to steal nonsense,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people aren't going to care what you

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Speaker 1: think about economics. And I think personally I was vindicated

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Speaker 1: on this is if you combine stop the Steal with

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Speaker 1: a national abortion band as well, turns out good lot

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Speaker 1: of people even in the middle of the highest inflation

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Speaker 1: in forty years, and be like, yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: so much about this, So it's a chicken in the

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Speaker 1: egg problem. I mean, I think he has a very

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Speaker 1: unique view that he can combine social conservatism with economic populism.

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Speaker 1: I am not nearly as optimistic as I once was,

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Speaker 1: that's even possible in the Republican Party. And also I

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Speaker 1: want to see is he going to vote for Rick Scott,

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Speaker 1: because if you vote for Rick Scott over Mitch McConnell,

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Speaker 1: you're kind of full of shit, because Rick Scott is

790
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Speaker 1: way worse a libertarian. I got a lot of problems

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Speaker 1: with Mitch many that I could list a million in

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Speaker 1: terms of what he's done on economics. He still, though,

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Speaker 1: is not even close to as ideologically an economic libertarian

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Speaker 1: as Rick Scott, who literally wants to cut Social Security.

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Speaker 1: So how is Holly going to vote on that one?

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Speaker 1: I mean to have all sorts of questions, Like in

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Speaker 1: Rick Scott's announcement that he's running against Mitch McConnell, he

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Speaker 1: brings up what he calls protecting social Security for view,

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Speaker 1: that's code, that's their code for cutting it and Medicare

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Speaker 1: as well, and it's all deficit hawk language. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, so it's why it's hard to parse a

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Speaker 1: critique like this because Josh Holly is not talking about like,

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Speaker 1: hey guys, maybe we shouldn't done the whole stop the

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Speaker 1: steel thing, because he's not there's no self reflection there

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Speaker 1: his political fortune is tied to that. Yes, not possible,

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Speaker 1: Yes exactly. So the last thing that you know, I

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00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: think it's worth saying is that the Donald Trump of

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Speaker 1: today is not anything like the Donald Trump of twenty

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Speaker 1: fifteen and twenty sixteen, when there was something, you know,

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Speaker 1: he was talking about some issues that really had resonance

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Speaker 1: with people. You know, he was talking about trade, there

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Speaker 1: was a different view. He was the outsider. Now what

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Speaker 1: is he up to? Go ahead and put this up

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Speaker 1: on the screen? Memes on truth Social, Yeah, lots of

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Speaker 1: this is C four C four C four guys memes

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Speaker 1: on truth Social, especially a lot of QAnon related memes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's basically just like your typical boomer poster

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Speaker 1: at this point. And Richard Hanania actually made a very

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Speaker 1: good point, which is, in some ways Trump Trump was

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Speaker 1: kept in more of a normy world when he was

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Now he's just in this total like right wing,

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Speaker 1: very ideological, very pro Trump space on truth Social, and

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Speaker 1: he just seems to be getting further and further from reality.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is like the definition of the dude

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Speaker 1: who needs to touch grass. Yeah, I mean this is

826
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Speaker 1: just pure boomer posting. As many of you can see

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Speaker 1: it's not great to have the president. You know. It's

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Speaker 1: the funny because in the past, every once in a

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Speaker 1: while he would just do stuff like this, and now

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Speaker 1: it's just like a con consin stream over on truth

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Speaker 1: social I think Richard is entirely correct, which is that

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Speaker 1: whenever you had Trump on Twitter, you at least had

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Speaker 1: him in the ecosystem where everybody was involved on truth.

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Speaker 1: He is genuinely in such a bubble that it is

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Speaker 1: just nearly impossible in order to get him back, and

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Speaker 1: then the fact is and at least come back so far.

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Speaker 1: So I think, look, do I think will be politically

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Speaker 1: a problem, not necessarily, but it's not good for anybody.

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Speaker 1: We stuck in a single information environment. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's a problem for him in the Republican primary. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a big problem for him in a general election.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a problem for him the last

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Speaker 1: general election. I remember how like weirdly online the R

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Speaker 1: and C was last time and they take these like

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Speaker 1: internet celebrities and put up on up on stage and

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Speaker 1: they're like, I don't even know what the backstory is

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Speaker 1: with this. Well, he's gone way way further down that

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Speaker 1: road at this point again, I don't think it's a

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Speaker 1: problem with the GOP base. And I guess that's my

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Speaker 1: before we bring in Ryan and Emily here, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's my overall view is like, I do think America

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Speaker 1: is done with Donald Trump. I think the midterms, I

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Speaker 1: think him losing his office as the presidency. I think

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00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: that is all pretty good proof that America overall would

855
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: very much like to move on from Donald Trump. Is

856
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: the Republican the diehard Republican party base that's going to

857
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: show up and vote in a primary. Are they done

858
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: with Donald Trump? That I'm not so sure about. Absolutely,

859
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: no idea. Okay, we've got Ryan, We've got Emily, who

860
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: were on standby. Let's go ahead and bring them in.

861
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: Guys into all there. Look at them, Hey, guys, how

862
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: are you? Ryan? You look very relaxed. I am. I'm

863
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: in western Maryland in a cabin working on a book.

864
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: You good. That's a good place to uh, to withstand

865
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 1: the World War three that we could be facing position.

866
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: You got a bunk around there, Ryan. Maybe we'll come

867
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Speaker 1: join you later Aska, go ahead, Christmas. So let me

868
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Speaker 1: start with you, Emily, since you're, you know, are our

869
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: right side of this panel. What do you think that

870
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: what do you think Trump's position is coming into this speech,

871
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: what what does he need to say, who does he

872
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: need to reassure? What do you think of his relative weakness,

873
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 1: especially visa the RHNDA. Santis. Yeah, I was just trying

874
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: to work this out in a story that I wrote tonight,

875
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: because the math, to me is I think where Trump

876
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: has a real problem and that you have some three

877
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: out of ten voters that support Trump more than they

878
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: support the Republican Party. That's there Trump base. That's three

879
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: out of ten Republican voters. Now, when that is still like,

880
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: those voters are not going anywhere. But when you combine

881
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: that with Donald Trump not being able to pluck off

882
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: as many independents and even as many Democrats as he

883
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: used to in the past, or people are just staying home,

884
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: that makes the national path for Donald Trump really difficult,

885
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: and it makes the statewide path for Trump branded candidates

886
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: really difficult. Now, where DeSantis comes in is that he

887
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: can make that math work in Florida is what we're

888
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: seeing that he's able to sort of combine the Trump base,

889
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: which may be some previous Democrat voters, people who previously

890
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: didn't vote Republican independents that are willing to vote for

891
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: someone like that. Ron DeSantis is doing that, and he's

892
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: bringing in more minorities. So that's where you're getting people saying, clearly,

893
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: the answer to this question is Ron DeSantis, how could

894
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 1: Donald Trump even think about running again? But the last

895
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: thing I'll say is before the sort of DC commentariat,

896
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: especially on the right, tries to orchestrate the top down

897
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: coup against Trump into favor in favor of DeSantis, they

898
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: should be aware that there are still people out there.

899
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: You're asking them to choose between Donald Trump and a

900
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,479
Speaker 1: regular traditional politician, and it's entirely rational if they say,

901
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: screw you. I'm not trusting any normal politician. I've been

902
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: screwed by the system for years. I've been screwed by

903
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: the political system over and over again. So I'm going

904
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: to take my chance with Donald Trump. I'd rather put

905
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: my trust in Donald Trump. Who says no to wars,

906
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: says no to the political establishment, says no. And whether

907
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: or not you think that arguments a good one, I

908
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: personally disagree with it. It's a rational thing for people

909
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: who have zero trust left in the system to do.

910
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: And I think people on the right are underestimating the

911
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: degree to which people will still make that calculus. I

912
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: completely agree with you, Emily Ryan. To me, that's a

913
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: central question. Does the GOP base care about electability when

914
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: told by elites? What do you think in terms of

915
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: well everything in the context before we get to the election.

916
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: Are the announcement tonight? I mean, I think they do

917
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: and they don't, But it doesn't matter because they don't

918
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: care what the elites say about electability, if you know

919
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like they do care I think about electability,

920
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: and I think they I think some of them thought.

921
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: A lot of them thought that Trump could win in

922
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. So it wasn't like they were just saying,

923
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, like screw this, we're going to throw this

924
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: guy up just as an f you to the system,

925
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: and we're fine with Hillary Clinton becoming president. A lot

926
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: of them thought, you know, they'd been watching Trump on

927
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: Celebrity Apprentice for years. They're like this, this guy's great,

928
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Like this guy can actually beat Hillary Clinton. So they

929
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: never a lot of them never quite believed these electability arguments,

930
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 1: and I think today they still believe the electability arguments,

931
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: but it's cut by the doubt and whether or not

932
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: elections are credible. So it's going to be interesting to

933
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: see how this plays out long term in the Republican base,

934
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: because you saw it in the Georgia runoffs two years ago,

935
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: that turnout was depressed because Trump was telling everybody that

936
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: voting doesn't work, and that, you know, going back to

937
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: that old famous slogan that you know, ifvoting mattered, it

938
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: would be illegal. If voting matter, they wouldn't let you

939
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: do it. Trump was really telling them like, no, they're

940
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: going to steal it. And so if coming out of

941
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: this election, Carrie Lake, you know, goes hard on it,

942
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: and Trump goes hard on you know, stolen votes around

943
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: the country, that could depress the number of people come

944
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: out because they might say, you know, in a fair election,

945
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: he would be electable, but they are not going to

946
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: believe that's going to be a fair election. So now

947
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: you have to throw into the electability conversations questions over

948
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: whether or not they even trust the elections, which then

949
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: they're like, well, why am I even engaging in this?

950
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: So I think it's a deep, long term problem for

951
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: Republicans that they're going to need to figure out. It's

952
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: such a thorny one. And that's the thing I keep

953
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: coming back to, Emily. I'm like, Okay, in some different

954
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: scenario which I personally don't envision, where Ron desantists can

955
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: somehow beat Trump in a headted primary, Like does he

956
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: just go away? Does he tell people not to vote?

957
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: Like the confounding variables there effectively put him either as

958
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,479
Speaker 1: a third party or as a spoiler in some way

959
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: which is undeniably going to have some impact, and so

960
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: by whole him hostage their GOP as he did in

961
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. He always made the case, He's like, look,

962
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: you're stuck with me. It's very much like you're stuck

963
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: in this room with me. And if you try and

964
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: kick me out, well I'm not just gonna take my

965
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: ball and go home. Nice party again. Yeah, same, And

966
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: something I had to say, I certainly could. I mean,

967
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 1: what do you think you talk to probably more base

968
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: people than I do, Like people who think of some

969
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: scenarios where Ron DeSantis could pull this off, what would

970
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: their counter to somebody like me be? So? Ron DeSantis

971
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: gave a statement today when he was asked about Donald Trump,

972
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: where he responded and essentially turned the question around on

973
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: the media and said, you know, the media has been

974
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: going after me, after me, after me, but look at

975
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: the points I've put up on the scoreboard. That's what

976
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm focused on. And he didn't really take the bait

977
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: and didn't really engage with Trump, which is something we

978
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 1: saw all of those candidates failed to do in twenty

979
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: fifteen and twenty sixteen. They all thought they could go

980
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: head to head with them, and I'll admit I thought

981
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: some of them could have gone head to head if

982
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: they had been more aggressive too, but it didn't work.

983
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: When we saw them try it, it didn't work. So

984
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: I think what it comes down to is whether there

985
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: are enough There are a lot of Republicans and Republican

986
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: leaning voters that are very sick of Donald Trump. They

987
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: are exhausted. These are persuadable voters in districts like Virginia seven,

988
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: that are persuadable people that if you put up a

989
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: so called normy Republican, I think they can still sort

990
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: of talk the Populace talk, even if they don't walk

991
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: the walk and be electable. That said Ron De Santis

992
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: is good proof of that. So are there enough people

993
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: that in a Republican primary are so done with the

994
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: Trump show that they will actually vote for Ron de Santis.

995
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 1: I think that's a really tough question in the primary

996
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: because if you remember, most Republican voters in twenty fifteen

997
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: to twenty sixteen rejected trump Ism, They rejected Donald Trump.

998
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: Most people voted against Donald Trump. But when you have

999
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: a field that's that split and Trump's base, that is

1000
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: that hardcore thirty percent of Republican primary voters, someone is

1001
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: going to have to get over that thirty percent threshold,

1002
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: which could you know, could gain or lose a little

1003
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: bit depending on how the primaries go. Good luck. Well,

1004
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: here's the other thing, Emily that I have had trouble

1005
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: in visioning, is you know, it's fine for Ronda Santis

1006
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: took his little jab there, which, by the way, he

1007
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: may not have felt like he was going right up

1008
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: against Trump, but I can promise you Donald Trump took

1009
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 1: that as a full assault, direct attack on to him.

1010
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: So that's one thing. But the other thing is like, eventually,

1011
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: if you're going to dethrone Trump, you are going to

1012
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: have to go up against him. It's not going to

1013
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: be enough to just sit back and hope this all

1014
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: just falls into your lap. It's not gonna work that way.

1015
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: So what is the direct case that you think Rond

1016
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: de Santis makes against Donald Trump. Imagine they're on the

1017
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: debate stage, up against each other. They're both making their

1018
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: pitch to the American people, taking shots at each other.

1019
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: What is DeSantis's critique of why the Republican base should

1020
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: cast aside this guy that they still continue to really like,

1021
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: who won the presidency before, who delivered them things that

1022
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 1: they thought were important and valuable, who continues to own

1023
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: and trigger the Libs in all ways that delight them.

1024
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: What is your critique of why they should give up

1025
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: on Trump and go with you. I think you'll go

1026
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: with two really specific things, if it ever gets to that,

1027
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: it would be tax cuts and COVID. And he may

1028
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: even throw in there the sort of administrative state that

1029
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: Trump never did anything with Schedule F. But I think

1030
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: it would be a huge attack on Ronda. Santis would say,

1031
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: I saw the writing on the wall earlier. I'm a leader.

1032
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: I took actions earlier than Donald Trump. Well, Donald Trump

1033
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: was enabling Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins. I was taking

1034
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: different steps in Florida. And he would say Donald Trump

1035
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: had all the political capital in the world. He had

1036
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: two Houses of Congress and the presidency, and he spent

1037
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: all of his political capital on tax cuts. I do

1038
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: think that's powerful. But the question is whether Ronda Santis

1039
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: is willing to veer into that lane of like clear

1040
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: economic populism, because folks at AI right now are saying, listen,

1041
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: this election was a resounding defeat for economic populism, which

1042
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: is a bad take because look where Fetterman one. Tim

1043
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: Ryan's gonna say. I obviously agree with you on that,

1044
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: and I did a whole thing on on Fetterman as

1045
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: kind of a model for Democrats. But I mean, look

1046
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: at who's looking a pony of cash for Ron DeSantis.

1047
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: You get Club for Growth in for him, you got

1048
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: Ken Griffin. I mean, these are not people who are

1049
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: going to be like gosh, I really hated those tax cuts.

1050
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: You know, that was terrible. I can't believe Trump did

1051
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: the tax cuts, so but the bars would I think.

1052
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: I think it's a power and I totally know that

1053
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna answer to his donors. Ultimately, Yeah, no, I

1054
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: agree with that. I was thinking of your lever news

1055
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: piece actually exactly. I think it explained the dynamic when

1056
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: it came to economic populism, and then there's the question

1057
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: is Ron DeSantis willing to be that much different from

1058
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: doctor Oz? Is he? Because that's an open question. That's

1059
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: such a great point, you know, Ryan, what do you

1060
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 1: make in terms of the dynamic? Having covered this also,

1061
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm curious for what you think the like the Democratic

1062
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: machines reaction to all of this is, are they a

1063
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: static about the Trump announcement tonight, especially ahead of Georgia?

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Speaker 1: What are if we zoom out from the GOP primary

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Speaker 1: and to the meta kind of political effect of all this,

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Speaker 1: what are some of the ripples that this is going

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Speaker 1: to cause going forward over the next two years. They're

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Speaker 1: a little bit reluctant to be too publicly celebratory about

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Speaker 1: it because they remember being celebratory in twenty sixteen, and

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Speaker 1: you know, being so excited that because they had helped,

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Speaker 1: you know, or you know, they had pied Piper Trump

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Speaker 1: to the nomination. As Hillary Clinton's team put it, that

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Speaker 1: now they were going to just coast through the general election.

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Speaker 1: Like they remember that that wasn't that long ago. Yet

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Speaker 1: they still feel the same way, and there is some

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Speaker 1: justification to that feeling. And I think that Trump's success

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Speaker 1: is actually a thing that is making it more difficult

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Speaker 1: for him to have success this time. In otherwords, in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, it wasn't just that he brought out a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of new voters to you know, two politics

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Speaker 1: that hadn't been participating before. It was also that Democrats

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Speaker 1: were demobilized and disengaged and Hillary Clinton did not bring

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Speaker 1: them out. That's the thing that allowed him to win

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Speaker 1: by you know, tens of thousands of votes in a

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Speaker 1: couple of different states. And Trump's own success, you know,

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Speaker 1: couple with Trump's kind of behavior and Trump's character and

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Speaker 1: who Trump is as president, changed that calculation fundamentally, Like

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Speaker 1: you're you're probably for the rest of our lives, we're

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Speaker 1: not going to have a situation where Democrats are not

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Speaker 1: engaged in an election, like at least as long as

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Speaker 1: Trump is alive, they're going to be in They're going

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Speaker 1: to be involved. And so that's why in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: Trump again increased turnout, brought more voters who hadn't come

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Speaker 1: out in twenty sixteen. He brought them out again in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, but Democrats brought out even more because they're

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Speaker 1: so angry at Trump. And in order for either DeSantis

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Speaker 1: to beat Trump or for Trump to beat Desantus in

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Speaker 1: a primary, they're going to have to be doing all

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Speaker 1: sorts of things that are riling up people on MSNBC

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Speaker 1: every single day. And so if Desantus does beat Trump

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Speaker 1: in the primary, hit two Democratic voters, he he will

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Speaker 1: be as hostile a figure to them as Trump because

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Speaker 1: he will have had to kind of out Trump Trump

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Speaker 1: on the way to the nomination. And so that means

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Speaker 1: they're going to have to find even more voters who

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Speaker 1: didn't come out in twenty twenty because Democrats are going

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Speaker 1: to continue to find young people and other people who

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Speaker 1: are you infuriated at the maga Republicans And yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna make it's going to make it so that

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Speaker 1: Trump isn't going to be able to kind of sleepwalk

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Speaker 1: his way into the White House again. That's like you

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Speaker 1: get one shot at that heads up to the audience

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Speaker 1: we have. We will bring the stream as soon as

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Speaker 1: it begins. We're watching a little bit about what's happening

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Speaker 1: here the press for former president making his way to

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Speaker 1: the podium right now through a sea in mar A Lago.

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Speaker 1: Like he's more or less on time. Yeah, he's on time,

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Speaker 1: which I'm absolutely shocked by. Yeah, he's walking under budget,

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Speaker 1: on time budget. Just so everybody knows, Jared is in

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Speaker 1: the room. If you've got that. We were rid of

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Speaker 1: the man once upon a time. We'll not be rid

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Speaker 1: of any of these people there. It is okay, well,

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Speaker 1: Nate setting there at mar A Lago, Chris, So I'm

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Speaker 1: going to let you do this because you used to

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Speaker 1: do Live to How do you narrate whenever? Literally nothing

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Speaker 1: is Yeah, you've got a lot of backs of heads.

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Speaker 1: I see here you've got he's walking now, he was

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Speaker 1: walking left, walking away from the podium, Ryan, while we're

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Speaker 1: waiting for the former president to finally get around to

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Speaker 1: speaking quickly, if you could, you know, what is your

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Speaker 1: expectation about a potential indictment and whether that could help

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Speaker 1: or hurt Trump? Here probably helps in the primary unless

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Speaker 1: he gets actually convicted. Right right, That's the other funny thing.

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Speaker 1: Uh now, where where is the escalator? Though? Oh no,

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Speaker 1: it's not. It's not a presidential escalator. I will it's

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Speaker 1: nice to see the red tie back. Every once in

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Speaker 1: a while he would flirt with a different colored tie.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see him return entirely. Oh, listen to

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Speaker 1: that beautiful music, folks. Amazing. I'm getting a lot of

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Speaker 1: flashbacks my time as a White House correspondent. I had

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Speaker 1: to sit through so many of these goddamn events, same

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Speaker 1: music every single time, same grifters that are in any audience.

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00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: That one time and he called not just one day.

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Speaker 1: He actually never learned how to pronounce my name. Came

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a problem in India. People were like,

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Speaker 1: why doesn't he correct him? And I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to go ahead and correct The president

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Speaker 1: is coming on you at a press conference. All right,

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Speaker 1: what do you think? All right, coming to the mic.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's come into the let's listen to former president. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much, and on behalf of Milania, myself

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Speaker 1: and our entire family. I want to thank you all

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Speaker 1: for being here tonight. It's very special occasion at a

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Speaker 1: very special place. You and all of those watching are

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Speaker 1: the heart and soul of this incredible movement and the

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Speaker 1: greatest country in the history of the world. It's very simple.

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Speaker 1: There has never been anything like it. It's great movement

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Speaker 1: of ours. Never been anything like it, and perhaps there

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Speaker 1: will never be anything like it again. There's never been

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Speaker 1: anything to compete with what we have all done. Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, distinguished guests, and my fellow citizens. America's comeback

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Speaker 1: starts right now. Two years ago, when I left office,

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Speaker 1: the United States stood ready for its golden age. Our

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Speaker 1: nation was at the pinnacle of power, prosperity, and prestige,

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Speaker 1: towering above all rivals, vanquishing all enemies, and striding into

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Speaker 1: the future, confident and so strong. In four short years,

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Speaker 1: everybody was doing great. Men, women, African Americans, Asian Americans,

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Speaker 1: Hispanic Americans. Everybody was thriving like never before. There was

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Speaker 1: never a time like this. We turned the page on

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Speaker 1: decades of globalist sellouts and one sided trade deals, lifted

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Speaker 1: millions out of poverty, and together we built the greatest

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Speaker 1: economy in the history of the world. When the virus

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Speaker 1: hit our shore, as I took decisive action and saved

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Speaker 1: lives and the US economy, And by October of the

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Speaker 1: same year, America was roaring back with the number one

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Speaker 1: fastest economic recovery ever recorded. How about all of the

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Speaker 1: incoming administration, and all they had to do was just

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Speaker 1: sit back and watch. Inflation was nonexistent, Our southern border

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Speaker 1: was by far the strongest ever, and because the border

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Speaker 1: was so tight, drugs were coming into our country at

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Speaker 1: the lowest level in many many years. Importantly, after decades

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Speaker 1: of rising energy costs, the United States had finally attained

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Speaker 1: the impossible dream of American energy independence, which Sue would

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Speaker 1: have turned into energy dominance for the first time in memory.

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Speaker 1: China was reeling and back on its heels. You'd never

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Speaker 1: seen that before because the United States was outdoing them

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Speaker 1: when every single front, and China was paying billions and

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Speaker 1: billions of dollars in taxes and tariffs. The farmers know

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Speaker 1: that because they got twenty eight billion of it. No

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Speaker 1: president had ever sought or received one dollar for our

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Speaker 1: country from China until I came along, and we were

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Speaker 1: getting hundreds of billions of dollars. Many people think that

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Speaker 1: because of this, China played a very active role in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election, just saying just saying, sure that

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Speaker 1: didn't happen. Instead of jobs and factories leaving America for China,

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Speaker 1: they were, for the first time ever, leaving China for America.

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Speaker 1: Businesses were pouring back because of our historic tax and

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Speaker 1: regulation cuts, the biggest in both categories and history bigger

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Speaker 1: even than what Ronald Reagan was able to produce, and

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Speaker 1: he produced a lot. China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea

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Speaker 1: were in Czech and respected. They respected the United States,

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Speaker 1: and quite honestly, they respected me. I knew them well.

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Speaker 1: I knew them well. The vicious Isis Caliphate, which no

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Speaker 1: president was able to conquer, was decimated by me and

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Speaker 1: our great warriors in less than three weeks, and albag Daddy,

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Speaker 1: its founder was hunted down and killed. North Korea had

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Speaker 1: not launched North Korea had not launched a single long

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Speaker 1: range missile since my summit with Chairman Kim Jong un

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Speaker 1: nearly three years before. We developed a relationship. And that's

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Speaker 1: a good thing, not a bad thing. It's a good thing,

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Speaker 1: very good thing. Actually, look at what's happening today. My

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Speaker 1: opponents made me out to be a warmonger and just

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Speaker 1: a terrible person who would immediately go into war. They

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Speaker 1: said during the twenty sixteen campaign that if he becomes president,

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Speaker 1: there will never be a war within weeks, and we

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Speaker 1: will have wars like you've never seen before. It will

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Speaker 1: happen immediately. And yet I've gone decades, decades without a war,

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Speaker 1: the first president to do it. For that long period,

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Speaker 1: the world was at peace, America was prospering, and our

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Speaker 1: country was on track for an amazing future because I

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Speaker 1: made big promises to the American people, and unlike other presidents,

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Speaker 1: I kept my promises. I kept that, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Under our leadership, we were a great and glorious nation,

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Speaker 1: something you haven't heard for quite a long period of time.

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Speaker 1: We were a strong nation, and importantly, we were a

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Speaker 1: free nation. But now we are a nation in decline.

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Speaker 1: We are a failing nation. For millions of Americans, the

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Speaker 1: past two years under Joe Biden have been a time

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Speaker 1: of pain, hardship, anxiety, and despair. As we speak, inflation

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Speaker 1: is the highest in over fifty years. Gas prices have

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Speaker 1: reached the highest levels in history, and expect them to

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Speaker 1: go much higher now that the strategic national reserves which

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Speaker 1: I filled up have been virtually drained in order to

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Speaker 1: keep gasoline prices lower. Just prior to the election, Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden has intentionally surrendered our energy independence. There is no

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Speaker 1: longer even a thought of dominance, and we are now

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Speaker 1: begging for energy help from foreign nations, many of whom

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Speaker 1: find us detestable. Our southern border has been erased, and

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Speaker 1: our country is being invaded by millions and millions of

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Speaker 1: unknown people, many of whom are entering for a very

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Speaker 1: bad and sinister reason. And you know what that reason is.

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Speaker 1: We will be paying a big price for this invasion

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Speaker 1: into our country for years to come. Hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 1: of pounds of deadly drugs, including very lethal fentanol, are

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Speaker 1: flooding across the now open and totally poorous southern border.

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Speaker 1: The bloodsoak streets of our once great cities are cesspools

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Speaker 1: of violent crimes which are being watched all over the world,

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Speaker 1: as leadership of other countries explained that this is what

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Speaker 1: America and democracy is really all about. How sad the

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Speaker 1: United States has been embarrassed, humiliated, and weakened for all

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Speaker 1: to see. The disasters in Afghanistan perhaps the most embarrassing

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Speaker 1: moment in the history of our country, where we lost lives,

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Speaker 1: left Americans behind, and surrendered eighty five billion dollars worth

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Speaker 1: of the finest military equipment anywhere in the world. And Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: which would have never happened if I were your president,

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Speaker 1: are something and even the Democrats admit that that's something

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Speaker 1: I've seen them admit over and over again. But our

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Speaker 1: enemies are speaking of us with scorn and laughter and

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Speaker 1: derision because of those two events. But there are many more.

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Speaker 1: Even just today, a missile was sent in probably by

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Speaker 1: Russia to Poland, fifty miles into Poland, and people are

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Speaker 1: going absolutely wild and crazy, and they're not happy. They

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Speaker 1: are very, very angry. Now we have a president who

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Speaker 1: falls asleep at global conferences, was held in contempt by

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Speaker 1: the British Parliament over Afghanistan. Thanks to the words of wisdom.

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Speaker 1: He said thank you to the wrong country for inviting

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Speaker 1: him to a major summit on the environment of all things.

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Speaker 1: They fly for days to get there, and then he

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Speaker 1: calls the country a name that was actually a country

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Speaker 1: on another continent. And he's leading us to the brink

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Speaker 1: of nuclear war, a concept unimaginable just two short years ago.

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Speaker 1: You cannot mention the nuclear word. It's too devastating. The

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Speaker 1: Green New Deal and the environment, which they say may

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Speaker 1: affect us in three hundred years, is all that has

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Speaker 1: talked about. And yet nuclear weapons, which would destroy the

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Speaker 1: world immediately, are never even discussed as a major threat.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine they say the ocean will rise one

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Speaker 1: eighth of an inch over the next two hundred to

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Speaker 1: three hundred years. But don't worry about nuclear weapons that

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Speaker 1: can take out entire countries with one shot. Something is

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Speaker 1: wrong with their thinking. Under Biden and the radical Democrats,

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Speaker 1: America has been mocked, derided, and brought to its knees,

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Speaker 1: perhaps never before. But we are here tonight to declare

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Speaker 1: that it does not have to be this way, does

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Speaker 1: not have to be this way. Two years ago we

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Speaker 1: were a great nation, and soon we will be a

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Speaker 1: great nation again. The decline of America is being forced

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Speaker 1: upon us by Biden and the radical left lunatics running

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Speaker 1: our government right into the ground. This decline is not

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Speaker 1: a fate we must accept. When given the choice, boldly, clearly,

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Speaker 1: and directly, I believe the American people will overwhelmingly reject

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Speaker 1: the Left's platform of national ruin, and they will embrace

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Speaker 1: our platform of national greatness and glory to America glory.

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Speaker 1: Exactly one week ago, our citizens voted in the important

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Speaker 1: mid term elections, and despite a ridiculously long and unnecessary

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Speaker 1: period of waiting, far longer in fact than any third

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Speaker 1: world country, just a short time ago, the Republicans won

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Speaker 1: back control of the House of Representatives, and it was

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Speaker 1: with a great Trump endorsed candidate, Congressman elect Kevin Kylie,

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01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: who is a fantastic person, a fantastic person, and I'm

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Speaker 1: very happy it was his vote that did it. But

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Speaker 1: so we now won back. This happened just an hour ago.

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Speaker 1: Much criticism is being placed on the fact that the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party should have done better, and frankly, much of

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01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: this blame is correct. But the citizens of our country

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01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: have not yet realized the full extent and gravity of

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01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: the pain our nation is going through, and the total

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01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: effect of the suffering is just starting to take hold.

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01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: They don't quite feel it yet, but they will very soon.

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Speaker 1: I have no doubt that by twenty twenty four it

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01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: will sadly be much worse, and they will see much

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Speaker 1: more clearly what happened and what is happening to our country,

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Speaker 1: and the voting will be much different. Twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Are you getting ready? And I am too. I am to.

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Speaker 1: I do want to point out that in the midterms,

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Speaker 1: my endorsement success rate was two hundred and thirty two

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Speaker 1: wins and only twenty two losses. You don't hear that

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Speaker 1: from the media, and this is an elegant night and

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01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: an elegant press place. And I'm not going to use

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Speaker 1: the term fake news media, so we're going to keep

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01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,839
Speaker 1: it very elegant. But you don't hear that from the media,

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01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: but I think you will because people are starting to

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Speaker 1: see what happened. That's some score. And then the primaries

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Speaker 1: was ninety eight point six percent, but they were still

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Speaker 1: trying to blame me. And the reason for the success

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Speaker 1: and that unprecedented success rate is that the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: changed our nation on trade, on securing the border with

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Speaker 1: the strongest safest border ever in the history of our country.

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Speaker 1: On Islamic terrorism, we had practically just about not that

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Speaker 1: I can think of, no Islamic attacks terrorist attacks during

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration. And in fact, we got along very

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Speaker 1: well with the various countries, including coming up with the

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Speaker 1: Abraham Accords. It's a great thing, the Abraham Affairs. But

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01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: it's because of cutting taxes and cutting regulations at the

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01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: highest level ever. And on building the greatest economy any

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Speaker 1: time in the history of the world. There's never been

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Speaker 1: an economy like we had just two years ago. Despite

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Speaker 1: the outcome of the Senate, we cannot lose hope and

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Speaker 1: we must all work very hard for a gentleman and

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Speaker 1: a great person named herschel Walker, a fabulous human being

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01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: who loves our country and will be a great United

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Speaker 1: States Senator. Herschel Walker. Get out and vote for Hershaw

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01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: and he deserves it. He was an incredible athlete. He'll

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01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: be an even better senator. Get out and vote for

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Speaker 1: herschel Walker. We elected a group of incredibly talented America

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01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: First leaders who will be stars of our party for

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01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: many years to come. In the popular vote, another thing

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Speaker 1: that's not discussed. For the House, we must remember that

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01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: Republicans won five million more votes, the largest margin in many,

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01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: many years over the Democrats. Five million more votes. That's

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01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:37,520
Speaker 1: a big thing. Breaking the radical democrats grip on Congress

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01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: was crucial. So in other words, because of our great

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01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: congressmen and all of our great congressmen and congresswomen, we

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01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: have taken over Congress. Nancy Pelosi has been fired, is it?

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01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: I told them, I said, if you just keep a

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01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: little bit lower standard, you're gonna have a big victory.

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Speaker 1: They said, let's win by forty seats, let's win by fifty.

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Speaker 1: I said, if you win by two seats, be happy.

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01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: But she's on her way to another country right now.

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01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: She's been fired. But we always have known that this

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Speaker 1: was not the end. It was only the beginning of

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01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:33,600
Speaker 1: our fight to rescue the American dream. And it's a

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Speaker 1: word you don't use. Two words. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be Joe. It's two words, American Dream. I was not

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Speaker 1: good what he did a lot of bad things, like

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Speaker 1: going to Idaho and saying welcome to the state of Florida.

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Speaker 1: I really love it. In order to make America great

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Speaker 1: and glorious again, I am tonight announcing my candidacy for

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Speaker 1: President of the United States. Thank you, Thank you, all

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Speaker 1: of you. Thank thank you. So many incredible friends and

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Speaker 1: family here tonight. It's such a beautiful things. Some people say,

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Speaker 1: how do you speak before so many people all the

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Speaker 1: time when there's love in the room. It's really easy.

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Speaker 1: If you want to know that, I really want you.

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01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 1: Ought to try it. Sometime together, we will be taking

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Speaker 1: on the most corrupt forces and entrenched interests imaginable. Our

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01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: country is in a horrible state. We're in grave trouble.

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Speaker 1: This is not a task for a politician or a

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01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: conventional cat today. This is a task for a great

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Speaker 1: movement that embodies the courage, confidence, and the spirit of

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Speaker 1: the American people. This is a movement. This is not

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Speaker 1: for anyone individual. There's a job for tens of millions

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Speaker 1: of proud people working together from all across the land

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Speaker 1: and from all walks of life, young and old, black

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Speaker 1: and white, Hispanic and Asian, many of whom we have

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Speaker 1: brought together for the very, very first time. If you

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Speaker 1: look at the numbers, if you look at what's happened

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Speaker 1: with Hispanic, with African American, with Asian, and just look

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01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 1: at what's happening, this is a party that has become

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Speaker 1: much bigger, much stronger, much more powerful, can do much

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Speaker 1: more good for our country. This is a job for

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Speaker 1: grandmothers and construction workers, firefighters, builders, teachers, doctors, and farmers

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Speaker 1: who cannot stay quiet any longer. You can't stay quiet

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01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: any longer. You're angry about what's happened to our country.

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01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: Our country is being destroyed before your very eyes. It's

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01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: a job for every aspiring young person and every hard

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Speaker 1: working parent, for every entrepreneur and underappreciated police officer who

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01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: is ready to shout for safety in America. The police

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01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: are being treated so badly. These are great people that

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Speaker 1: can straighten out the crime. They're the ones that know

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01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: how to do it. We have to give them back

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01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:34,480
Speaker 1: their respect and their dignity. This will not be my campaign.

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Speaker 1: This will be our campaign altogether, because the only four

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01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 1: strong enough to defeat the massive corruption we are up

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Speaker 1: against is you, the American people. It's true, the American people,

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01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: the greatest people on earth. We love them all, and

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01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 1: we love both sides. We're going to bring people together.

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01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: We're going to unify people, and it was happening in

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Speaker 1: the previous administration, previous two of the previous and what

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Speaker 1: was bringing them together was success. Prior to COVID coming in,

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01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: the people were calling me, that were calling me. You

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01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't believe it, people that were so far left. I

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01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: figured they'd never speak to me and I would never

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Speaker 1: speak to them. But our success was so incredible like

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01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: never before. And then COVID started coming in from China.

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01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: We call it the chinavirus, some people call it other things.

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01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: But it was devastating and we built it back and

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01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: did an incredible job. But when people say Republicans or Democrats,

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01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: or liberals or conservatives, I say, we could all get together,

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01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: and we were doing that. That was happening just prior,

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Speaker 1: because the success was greater than this country has ever had.

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01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: We were leapfrog in China and leapfrog in everybody else,

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01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 1: and everybody wanted a piece of it. But just as

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01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 1: I promised in twenty sixteen, I am your voice. I

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01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: am your voice. The Washington establishment wants to silence us,

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01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: but we will not let them do that. What we

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01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: have built together over the past six years is the

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01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: greatest movement in history because it is not about politics.

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01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: It's about our love for this great country, America, and

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01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: we're not going to let it fail. I am running

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01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: because I believe the world has not yet seen the

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01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: true glory of what this nation can be. We have

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01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,759
Speaker 1: not reached that pinnacle, believe it or not. In fact,

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01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: we can go very far. We're going to have to

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01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: go far. First, we have to get out of this ditch,

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01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 1: and once we're at you'll see things that nobody for

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01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: any country. It's called the United States of America, and

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01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: it's an incredible place. We are Americans and we do

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01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: not have to endure what has taken place in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 1: This is our country, our government, and the carters of

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Speaker 1: power or our carters. They're not their carters. These are

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Speaker 1: our carters. And we are coming to take those carters back.

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01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: So from now until election day in twenty twenty four,

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01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: which will come very quickly, will go. Look at how

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01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 1: time flies, Look how fast it's all going. I will

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01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: fight like no one has ever fought before. We will

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01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: defeat the radical left Democrats that are trying to destroy

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Speaker 1: our country from within, and likewise protect us all we

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01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: want to protect us. We have to be protected from

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Speaker 1: all of those nations out there that are looking to

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Speaker 1: destroy us from beyond air shores. There are lots of

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01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: nations that hate us gravely, and that's the problem when

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Speaker 1: they look at us and disarray like we are right now,

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01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: when we go to them begging for oil, and we

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01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: have more liquid gold under our feet than they have

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01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 1: or any other nation has, and we don't use it

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01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: because we're going to them. It's crazy what's happening. We

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Speaker 1: can't let it continue. Joe Biden is the face of

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01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: left wing failure and Washington corruption. He had a big

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Speaker 1: g twenty dinner tonight. Everybody flew over to wherever they

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Speaker 1: flew over, and guess what, he never showed up. They're

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01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 1: still looking for them. What's going on? G twenty. I

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01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: used to love that. The leaders I used to make

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01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: deals for our country like you wouldn't believe. It was one,

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01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 1: give you the next one, give it the next one.

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Speaker 1: And we got them to stop taking advantage of our country.

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01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: Every nation took advantage of our country. We renegotiated deals

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Speaker 1: with Mexico and Canada, USMCA. We got rid of the

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Speaker 1: worst trade deal ever made ever made, NAFTA, the worst

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Speaker 1: trade deal ever made. That's why the farmers loved Trump,

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Speaker 1: because we did a great job. But manufacturers also, and

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Speaker 1: we did a deal. We restructured. We restructured our terrible

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Speaker 1: deal with terrible deal with Japan, and I did it

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Speaker 1: with Prime Minister Abbi, a great man who unfortunately so

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Speaker 1: sad he was a great friend of mine, but a

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01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 1: great man loved his country so much. But we restructured

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Speaker 1: and made it a really terrific deal. And with South Korea,

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01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 1: so many other countries, and the best of all was

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Speaker 1: what we did to China. We made an incredible deal.

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Speaker 1: But after COVID, I don't even bother talking about it

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01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,799
Speaker 1: because the devastation that that cause for the entire world

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01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 1: was too much. To bear. I will ensure that Joe

1483
01:23:51,680 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 1: Biden does not received four more years in twenty twenty Kanta.

1484
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 1: Our country could not take that. And I say that

1485
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: not in laughter, I say that in tears. Our country

1486
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 1: could not take four more years. That it can only

1487
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 1: take so much. It's all very fragile to start off with.

1488
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: It can only take so much. In twenty twenty, I

1489
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,919
Speaker 1: received the largest number of votes of any sitting president

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01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: in history, by a lot. And we will do it again,

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01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: but with even more votes this time. Many have noted

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01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: that huge gains we have made with Latino voters, and

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01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: I believe we will set even greater records with this

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01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 1: crucial vote in twenty twenty four. The Hispanic voter, the

1495
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: Latino voter, has been unbelievable. Great people, very entrepreneurial people,

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01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: and they want security. And everyone thought when I did

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01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 1: the wall, I built the wall, and they thought, oh,

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01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: that would hurt me with the Hispanic vote. No, it

1499
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 1: helped me because they understood, they wanted safety, they wanted security,

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01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: and they understood the border better than anybody else. So

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01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 1: they were amazed. We started that trend, and now we're

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01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: continuing with that trend. You look at what we've done

1503
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 1: in Florida, what everybody's doing now in Florida and Texas

1504
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: along the border. In Texas won every single community. I

1505
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:26,799
Speaker 1: won every single community. Governor of Texas called great gentlemen,

1506
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 1: just got reelected, and he said to me, I'd like

1507
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: to talk to you for a second. Well, he said,

1508
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: you've done something that nobody else has done. You've won

1509
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:42,520
Speaker 1: every single area along the borders the longest since reconstruction.

1510
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: I said, reconstruction. I guess you call that the civil war.

1511
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 1: That's what I call it. That's what I call it.

1512
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: Governor Abbott very good man, and he's working hard, but

1513
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,919
Speaker 1: it's horrible because what's happening is they're just sending hundreds

1514
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 1: of thousands of people right through his state, right through Arizona,

1515
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: right through all of the states. What's happening is they're

1516
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: coming up all of the states and we can't have

1517
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: it anymore. Of this campaign will be about issues, vision

1518
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: and success, and we will not stop. We will not

1519
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 1: quit until we've achieved the highest goals and made our

1520
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: country greater than it has ever been before. And we

1521
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 1: can do that. We can do. Our victory will be

1522
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: built upon big ideas, bold ambitions and daring dreams for

1523
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 1: America's future. We need daring dreams. It is not enough

1524
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 1: merely to complain or oppose. We don't want to be critics.

1525
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 1: We don't want to be complainers. I never wanted to

1526
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: be a critic. I never respected critics. They tell people

1527
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 1: what's wrong, but they can't do it themselves. We will

1528
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 1: win because we will fight with every measure of our

1529
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 1: strength and with every ounce of our energy to lift

1530
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 1: up the working men and working women of America and

1531
01:26:56,000 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: to restore the fabric of this nation. The radical left

1532
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: Democrats have embraced an extreme ideology of government domination and control.

1533
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 1: Our approach is the opposite one, based on freedom, values,

1534
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 1: individual responsibility, and just plain common sense. It's common sense.

1535
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: In two years, the Biden administration has destroyed the US economy,

1536
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 1: just destroyed it. With victory, we will again build the

1537
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: greatest economy ever. It will take place quickly. We will

1538
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 1: build the greatest economy ever. And if you remember, I

1539
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 1: did it twice. I did it before COVID and then

1540
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 1: handed off something where the stock market was higher than

1541
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: just prior to COVID coming in. And we did it twice,

1542
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: and we will do it again, but this time we'll

1543
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: do it bigger, stronger, better than anybody can even imagine.

1544
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: And one of the beautiful things of the pause, if

1545
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 1: there is such a thing as a beautiful thing. But

1546
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 1: one of the important factors of the pause is that

1547
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 1: we see how bad they've done, so we will be

1548
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: able to do it properly, and it will be much easier.

1549
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 1: Everybody will agree with us, because everybody sees what a

1550
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 1: bad job has been done during this two year period,

1551
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 1: and it will be a four year period. Everybody sees

1552
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 1: that it will be much easier for us to do

1553
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: what has to be done. We will immediately tackle inflation

1554
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: and bring down to a level that it was. You know,

1555
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: we were at zero, but actually the best number is

1556
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: one percent. Do you know that you don't want it

1557
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: really zero, but we were at zero. We actually got

1558
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: it to exactly one percent, the perfect number. One thing.

1559
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: Every account of degrees don't have it, have it like

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01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: at one percent. They even say one to two. But

1561
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 1: I said, let's do one. And we had it at

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01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 1: one percent, and we had it there for a long

1563
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: period of time, and we had the value of the dollar.

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01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: We had it so that this country could make a

1565
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 1: lot of money. And I fought other countries where they

1566
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 1: devalued their dollar, or they've devalued their currency, whether it

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01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: was the pound or whether it was the want or

1568
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: the end. And I used to fight like cats and

1569
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 1: dogs with the leaders of other countries because they were

1570
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 1: stealing from us when they did that, they had artificial

1571
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 1: devaluations of their currency. It's a very important thing. I

1572
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 1: haven't even heard it mentioned in two years. It's a

1573
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 1: very important thing. It's very hard for us to compete

1574
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 1: when they do that artificially. And they had to pay

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01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 1: a big price when they did it, and they never

1576
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: really did it for very long. I said, we're not

1577
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: going to do business with you anymore as a country,

1578
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: and they believe me, and they let it go back up.

1579
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 1: Instead of putting America last, as the Biden administration has done,

1580
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 1: very very openly and bravely. Because I can't imagine saying

1581
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:20,600
Speaker 1: let's put America last. I think it takes courage. We

1582
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 1: will again put America first every policy. Thank you very much.

1583
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 1: We do love our country, isn't it. That's why we're here.

1584
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 1: I didn't need this. I had a very nice easy life.

1585
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: This is something I didn't need and a lot of

1586
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,799
Speaker 1: you people don't need either. But we love our country.

1587
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 1: We have to take care of our country. We have

1588
01:30:55,479 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 1: to save our country. Every policy must be geared toward

1589
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 1: that which supports the American worker, the American family, and

1590
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: businesses both large and small, and allows our country to

1591
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 1: compete with other nations on a very level playing field,

1592
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 1: which we never had until I came along and the

1593
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 1: Trump administration came along, And now we're losing it. They're

1594
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 1: moving back into China, They're moving back into these other countries.

1595
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: It's horrible. That means low taxes, low regulations, and fair trade,

1596
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 1: much of which I've already completed but now will even

1597
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 1: greatly enhance. Other countries should pay for the privilege of

1598
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: coming into the American marketplace. They have to pay to

1599
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: come into our country and make all of that money,

1600
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: take it away from us, and thanks to the Trump administration,

1601
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 1: still the best and the biggest country in the world

1602
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 1: is what we have. We have the best and the biggest.

1603
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 1: If you remember for many years, you can look in

1604
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 1: your projection book, China was going to take over from

1605
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: US as the largest economy of the world. In twenty

1606
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,759
Speaker 1: eighteen or twenty nineteen, I said, I don't like that timing.

1607
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 1: And I was with President she who's now president for life.

1608
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 1: I call him king. He said, no, no, I'm not

1609
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: the king. I said, yes, you are the king. You're

1610
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 1: president for life. It's the same thing. But I said, President, President,

1611
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 1: you can't do these things. You can't remember they had

1612
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 1: a China twenty five that means China was going to

1613
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 1: take over virtually the whole world economy by twenty five.

1614
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: I said, that's not a nice sign. I don't want

1615
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 1: that signe. They took it down. They took down the

1616
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 1: whole slogan. Probably will be coming back at some point

1617
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:41,799
Speaker 1: in the near future. But I found it very insulting.

1618
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 1: I said, I find that very insulting. On day one,

1619
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 1: we will end Joe Biden's war or American Energy, and

1620
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 1: you will see when that happens, you will see energy

1621
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 1: costs come down. And because energy is it's so big

1622
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 1: and so important, you will see inflation dropping, dropping, dropping dropping,

1623
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 1: You will see it come down. It's a thing of beauty,

1624
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,639
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't think it's that complicated. Now what has

1625
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 1: been complicated a little bit is what's happened to so

1626
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 1: many other things. I believe originally started by this energy disaster.

1627
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:22,520
Speaker 1: We were a dollar eighty seven a gallon for gasoline,

1628
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 1: and now it's hitting five, six, seven, and even eight dollars,

1629
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 1: and it's going to go really bad. The socialist disaster

1630
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: known as the Green New Deal, which is destroying our

1631
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:35,480
Speaker 1: country and the many crippling regulations that it has spawned,

1632
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,799
Speaker 1: will be immediately terminated so that our country can again

1633
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 1: breathe and grow and thrive like it should. It's very

1634
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 1: very much hurting our country. Germany tried it, you know,

1635
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 1: Germany tried it. They were up for about a year.

1636
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 1: Remember I sent to Angela. Remember Angela? Do you remember angle?

1637
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 1: Nobody's remembering her now, Angela Merkel. I sent her a

1638
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: white flag of surrender. She said, But why, but why

1639
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: do you send this to me? Donald, I said, Angola,

1640
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 1: I send it to you because this is a flag

1641
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 1: of surrender. You are getting seventy eight percent of your

1642
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 1: energy from Russia. And when that happens, history has proven

1643
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 1: that it's not good for Germany. Just take a look

1644
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 1: over the last one hundred and fifty years that hasn't

1645
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,680
Speaker 1: been good. What I didn't know would take place so fast,

1646
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 1: and Germany closed as you know, all of its coal

1647
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 1: powered plants and its nuclear plants. They closed everything, and

1648
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 1: now they're building coal plants and they're building them fast.

1649
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 1: And China is building a coal plant every week. Every

1650
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 1: week they open up another, and then they talk about

1651
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:51,719
Speaker 1: all of the things that they do environmentally. They're watching

1652
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: us die with a green new deal, with our windmills

1653
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 1: and with our solar that doesn't have the power to

1654
01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 1: fire up our great factories and our great plants. They

1655
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 1: are watching us die, and they're laughing as it happens. Remember,

1656
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 1: economic security is national security, and that's what it is.

1657
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:16,759
Speaker 1: We need economic security. That is why we will launch

1658
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 1: an all out campaign to eliminate America's dependence on China.

1659
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,480
Speaker 1: We will bring our supply chains, which are a disaster

1660
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: right now. You can't get anything, and good luck getting

1661
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 1: a turkey for Thanksgiving Number one, you won't get it,

1662
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 1: and if you do, you're going to pay three to

1663
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 1: four times more than you're paid last year. But we

1664
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 1: will bring our supply chains and manufacturing base back home,

1665
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 1: as we were strongly doing during the Trump administration, and

1666
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 1: we will systematically bring back wealth, health, and success to

1667
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 1: the American middle class and to America itself. Please please

1668
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 1: sit down. I feel so guilty having you stand now

1669
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 1: now you've been standing for the whole for the whole event,

1670
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 1: I feel very guilty. I don't want that to have

1671
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 1: to every worker and family struggling to survive and the

1672
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 1: Biden economy with inflation destroying your family and your life.

1673
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 1: This campaign will be for you. Help is on the way.

1674
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 1: Joe Biden has abolished America's borders. We are going to

1675
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 1: restore and secure America's borders just like we had them before,

1676
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 1: best ever. We built the wall, and now we will

1677
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 1: add to it. Now we built the wall, we completed

1678
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 1: the wall, and then we said, let's do more, and

1679
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,720
Speaker 1: we did a lot more. And as we were doing it,

1680
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 1: we had an election that came up, and when they

1681
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 1: came in, they had three more weeks to complete the

1682
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 1: additions to the wall, which would have been great, and

1683
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 1: they said, no, no, we're not going to do that.

1684
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 1: And that's when I realized that they actually want to

1685
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 1: have this disaster. They're known as open borders. Hard to believe,

1686
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:06,480
Speaker 1: isn't it. But one of the reasons we had so

1687
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 1: much success at the border was because of the fact

1688
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:12,719
Speaker 1: that two things we got Mexico to give us, free

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Speaker 1: of charge twenty eight thousand soldiers. That helps. And President

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Speaker 1: of Mexico is a great gentleman. By the way, socialist,

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01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 1: but that's okay. Can't have everything, but he's a great

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01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 1: man and a great friend of mine. But twenty eight

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01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 1: thousand soldiers while we were building the wall, and then

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01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,600
Speaker 1: when the wall was finished, that's how we set all

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01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 1: these records. We have records that nobody can even compete with.

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01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: Right now, it's a disaster. I believe it's ten million

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01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 1: people coming in, not three or four million people. They're

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01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 1: pouring into our country. We have no idea who they

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01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 1: are and where they come from. We have no idea

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01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 1: what's happening to our country. We're being poisoned. Within moments

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01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:53,679
Speaker 1: of my inauguration, catch and release will be gone forever.

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01:37:54,120 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: Remain in Mexico. Remain in Mexico, which was so important.

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01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,719
Speaker 1: Everybody came in here, they remained here, and they never left,

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01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 1: and you couldn't get them, you couldn't find them. I

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01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 1: had a policy remain in Mexico. And if you think

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01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 1: it was easy for me to get the President of

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01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 1: Mexico to agree to that, it wasn't, but we got

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01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 1: it and they terminated it. Can you believe. So now

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01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 1: they come in here, they stay, and we have no

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01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 1: idea where they are. They get lost, and it's very

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01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 1: dangerous for our country. And again I'll say, we're going

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01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 1: to pay a big price someday for what they're doing.

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01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 1: We will begin the process of safely removing the illegal

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01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:36,799
Speaker 1: alien criminals that have been unlawfully allowed into our countries.

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01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 1: We have no choice, we have no choice. And in

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01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,799
Speaker 1: restoring border security, we will stop the flow of deadly

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01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 1: drugs and horrible human trafficking, which both have been set

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01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 1: upon us like never before. The human trafficking, you think

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01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 1: of it as an ancient thing, it's not ancient. Because

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01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 1: of the Internet. Human trafficking is worse than it's ever

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01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 1: been in history. And we stopped them at the Southern border,

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01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 1: which is the number one port all over the world,

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01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 1: the Southern border. So much comes through the Southern border.

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01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 1: All right, So we have been listening to the former

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01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: president Donald Trump officially announced that he will run for

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01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:21,719
Speaker 1: the presidency for a third time. I'm here with Sager.

1727
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 1: We're going to get Ryan and Emily here back in

1728
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 1: a minute. Different speech, frankly than what he normally gives

1729
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 1: and what I expected, I will say something that will

1730
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 1: cut Donald Trump to his core. It was boring, and

1731
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,600
Speaker 1: I guess I mean the positive is that, if you

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01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:41,679
Speaker 1: wanted to spind it this way, he stayed away from

1733
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 1: the crazy conspiracy theories, the accession with twenty twenty, even

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01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: like the longtime obsession with Russia Gate and the Muller

1735
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:52,600
Speaker 1: Report and all of those greatest hits. He really stuck to,

1736
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, core message about here's what Biden did wrong,

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01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:57,640
Speaker 1: Here's what I did right during my administration, here's what

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01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 1: we'll do going forward. Totally on script, which very unusual

1739
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:04,679
Speaker 1: for this man. Yeah. My top line takeaway is all

1740
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: stylistic and less substance, which is that that is probably

1741
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 1: the most low energy, high profile speech I've ever seen

1742
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 1: Trump givet was the most standard publican speech I've ever

1743
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 1: seen from him, standard scripted, no stop this deal. I

1744
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,759
Speaker 1: was anticipating having to come out in that and be like, Okay,

1745
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 1: YouTube gods. Just for the record, the twenty twenty election

1746
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 1: was not stolen. He didn't make one. He did not

1747
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,640
Speaker 1: make one claim. I was watching very closely while we

1748
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:33,640
Speaker 1: both were when he started saying in twenty twenty I

1749
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,679
Speaker 1: got more votes than any other president history. That is true. Actually,

1750
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:40,639
Speaker 1: it's just Biden happened to get more. Didn't elaborate on that.

1751
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 1: So from my own personal observation, I have seen the

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01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:47,600
Speaker 1: man covered in for years the White House at ceremonial

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01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:51,640
Speaker 1: events with more energy than he had tonight, and I

1754
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 1: can't help but wonder what's going on here. I have

1755
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 1: a couple of theories. I have to go ahead. I

1756
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 1: have a theory, which is who's abandoning him and drove

1757
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 1: right now right? Elites, Yes, the elites of the part

1758
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 1: of the party think this guy's crazy. He's out of control,

1759
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: he can't win, he's a loose cannon. We can't go

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01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 1: forward with this dude. He's a disaster for the party. So,

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01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 1: in my opinion, this performance very staid, very stable, very stable,

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01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:22,880
Speaker 1: genius vibes here on prompter on, you know, a sort

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01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:26,480
Speaker 1: of normal message that might potentially appeal to him, independance

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01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 1: leading with inflation and gas prices and you know, leaving

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01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:33,759
Speaker 1: the crazy aside. That to me seems to be pitched

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01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 1: at the elites of the world, the media elites, the

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01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 1: party elites, the sort of like thought leaders of the

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01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 1: Republican Party. So I don't know that this speech was

1769
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 1: really for the base. I think it was to try

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01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: to bring some comfort to that group of people I share.

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01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 1: I share your conclusion, which is I think if the

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01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 1: Republicans had a red wave, we're looking at a totally

1773
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:54,919
Speaker 1: different speech. We're looking at a stop to steel affirmation.

1774
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 1: We're talking about Kerry Lake, We're talking about Blake Masters. Yeah,

1775
01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 1: we'd be talking about the Secretary of State candidate. This

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01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 1: was And again, I want to reiterate, I've watched him

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01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 1: a lot. I remember covering him like the d Wally

1778
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 1: celebration of the White House. Yeah, and he was a

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01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 1: little more off script there than he is here. I've

1780
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 1: never seen him stick to a teleprompter in my life

1781
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 1: to the degree that he has tonight. The take from

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01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 1: Mick mulvaney, which I don't know if this is if

1783
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 1: I agree with this or not, but he was like, Wow,

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01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: he's stuck to the teleprompter. If he had done this

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01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,719
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, he would have won. That's one theory

1786
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 1: of Trump is like, oh, if you capped him in

1787
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 1: line and you didn't let him be crazy. But I

1788
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,640
Speaker 1: mean people also like get excited by the crazy and

1789
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 1: the entertainment value, and they're there for the show. This

1790
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: was not a show for anyone other than you know,

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01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 1: a small group of basically like Republican taste makers to

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01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:47,680
Speaker 1: demonstrate to them like, Okay, this time, I'm going to

1793
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 1: be calm. I'm going to carry the message that you

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01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 1: want me to carry that you believe will resonate with independence.

1795
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 1: And so I really think that's ultimately who it was

1796
01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 1: pitched towards. You know, I mean, he told a story.

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01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:02,640
Speaker 1: There was no need for this speech to be as

1798
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 1: long as it was either like you could have said

1799
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 1: everything that he is still saying apparently in like twenty minutes.

1800
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:09,639
Speaker 1: But you know, he told the story about the way

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01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 1: he sees his administration. This was goldening. She described it

1802
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 1: as he talked about the economic numbers and we were

1803
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 1: poised for all this success. And then you bring in

1804
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: Joe Biden harps on some of the Biden you know,

1805
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:23,839
Speaker 1: gaffs and mental stumbles. And also I thought it was interesting,

1806
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 1: you know, the way that he really talked to a

1807
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 1: significant amount about Ukraine and the peril that we're in

1808
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:32,600
Speaker 1: with regards to potential nuclear war and so clearly is

1809
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 1: going to sort of lean into that, which I do

1810
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 1: think has some potency with the electorate ultimately. Yeah, So

1811
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 1: I wrote down a couple of quotes which I thought

1812
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 1: were very important. He said, quote two years under Trump

1813
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:46,600
Speaker 1: under Biden, which he referred to as the pause, pain, hardship,

1814
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 1: and despair, inflation, the highest gas prices in history to

1815
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 1: go higher. Here was the most important line of the

1816
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 1: speech to me, which was he put the blame of

1817
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:01,720
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election on the votersat the citizens of

1818
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 1: our country have not yet grasped the total effect of

1819
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 1: the suffering. They don't quite feel it yet, but they

1820
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 1: will very soon. I have no doubt in twenty twenty

1821
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 1: four there will be and the voting will be much different. So, yeah,

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01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 1: a couple I know. So he's saying. His theory that

1823
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 1: he's putting out there is things are really bad, but

1824
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 1: people it hasn't totally set in for people yet, and

1825
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 1: that's why the results didn't go the way we thought.

1826
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 1: The other thing he threw out there was that he

1827
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I told the Republicans, like, oh, if

1828
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 1: you if you win the House by two seats, you

1829
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 1: should be happy with that. They were like, no, we're

1830
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 1: going to get forty, and so he was trying to

1831
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 1: also sort of spin the very disappointing night into you know, oh,

1832
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:43,759
Speaker 1: actually you took back the house, you sent Nancy packing.

1833
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:45,799
Speaker 1: She's out of the country now, so it was actually

1834
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:47,760
Speaker 1: a win. So I think the fact is, and I'm

1835
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 1: monitoring continuing, it's he's been speaking now for fifty one minutes.

1836
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 1: To have no stop to steal in the last fifty

1837
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 1: one minutes is stunning to see from Donald Trump, especially.

1838
01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 1: I've had two years January sixth on truth social all

1839
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 1: you hear about all the time. But look, here's the

1840
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: one thing I know about Trump, no matter how many

1841
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 1: times he sticks to the script acts presidential. Yeah, he'll

1842
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 1: be back. I don't know how long it'll take. It

1843
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 1: could take a day, it could be one hour later.

1844
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,719
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you this. He's going to be pissed

1845
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 1: as hell at the media response to all this we

1846
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 1: were watching. That's important. Yeah. So none of the major networks,

1847
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 1: as you said, the actual like ABC, ABC, CBS, none

1848
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:31,759
Speaker 1: of them carried the speech. MSNBC did not cover the speech.

1849
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: CNN cut the speech at thirty five minute mark. Fox

1850
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: News cut it about seven minutes before we did, and

1851
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 1: that Sean Don Hannity exactly. Hannity kicked it to a

1852
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 1: pro Trump panel, basically thinking our panel of Pete Hegseth

1853
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 1: and Sean Hannity breaking down Trump twenty twenty four more

1854
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 1: important than the man himself. That is the ultimate repudiation.

1855
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we would have stayed with it if

1856
01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 1: there was anything interesting quote unch Yeah, and by the

1857
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:03,839
Speaker 1: way of our producer, we're monitoring it. In case something

1858
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 1: does interesting happen, well we can always jump back into it.

1859
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:10,599
Speaker 1: But I think that media piece is really important for

1860
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. First of all, I mean, part

1861
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 1: of the reason he got off the ground in twenty

1862
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 1: fifteen was because the media obsession with him. I mean

1863
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 1: when he announced and he said the thing about immigrants,

1864
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:24,639
Speaker 1: a rapist, criminals, some of them I presume are good people.

1865
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 1: That triggered an entire media firestorm, and that actually is

1866
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 1: what gave him lyft initially in the campaign. Remember the announcement,

1867
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 1: He had to like hire actors to go. It's not

1868
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 1: like he had a grassroots space to start with. Now

1869
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 1: he can't necessarily take that amount of media attention for granted. Obviously,

1870
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 1: if they're not playing the speech now, I think from

1871
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:47,000
Speaker 1: a news journalism perspective, I think that's a mistake because

1872
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 1: you do have a man who's the former president, he's

1873
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 1: announcing his next campaign for the presidency. He's very likely

1874
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 1: to be the Republican nominee. So I think there's a

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01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 1: lot of news value in covering what he has to

1876
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,759
Speaker 1: say here. But I also think that the reason why

1877
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 1: he has himself so hemmed in in this speech and

1878
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 1: isn't making the crazy voter fraud claims is because he

1879
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 1: wanted to get that mainstream coverage. He wanted the speech

1880
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 1: to be broadcast. He showed up right on time at

1881
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 1: nine pm. That was, you know, very shocks, So that

1882
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 1: again he increases his chances that these networks are going

1883
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 1: to be there, that it's going to be primetime, that

1884
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,679
Speaker 1: they're going to take it. And then by staying away

1885
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:24,840
Speaker 1: from the crazy claims, it makes it more palatable for

1886
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 1: them to be able to cover what he's saying. Yeah,

1887
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 1: that the media angle, I think cannot be overstated. That's

1888
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: very important for our major takeaways from this speech. But

1889
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:36,799
Speaker 1: I think overall the scriptedness of it, the content itself,

1890
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I covered Trump many a long time,

1891
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 1: and that was just very boilerplate what the advisors put

1892
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 1: into there. From what I've read, his advisors had wanted

1893
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 1: to actually keep him under forty five minutes. I mean, look,

1894
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 1: we're not the only ones who eventually cut away because

1895
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 1: it was just frankly getting boring. Like we could watch

1896
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 1: not only in terms of numbers going down, but you

1897
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 1: can sense and we saw some of you thank you

1898
01:47:58,360 --> 01:47:59,600
Speaker 1: by the way at the super chats, so we're like,

1899
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 1: bring back breaking points. This is getting boring. I think

1900
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 1: the reason why that matters is his ability to transfix

1901
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:10,639
Speaker 1: and center the entire culture. I've always thought of Trump

1902
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 1: he was not just a president. He wasn't just a politician.

1903
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 1: He was a cultural figure. For some reason, it's just

1904
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 1: not there right now. And maybe that some of that

1905
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 1: is structural, the networks and all of them not cutting it.

1906
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:24,599
Speaker 1: But at the same time, everybody's in the ratings business, like, yeah,

1907
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 1: if Trump is doing something interesting, you stay with it.

1908
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:31,640
Speaker 1: So look, I think, well, what he's always understood is

1909
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 1: the way to get the most media attention is to

1910
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 1: say the most insane thing that you can. That's how

1911
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:40,760
Speaker 1: you get out your whole thing going ultimately, but I

1912
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:44,599
Speaker 1: think you're right that after the losses of his candidates,

1913
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 1: especially you know, Carry Lake and some of the most

1914
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 1: prominent stop the steal election deniers, he felt like he

1915
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 1: needed to put a more chaste presidential quote unquote image

1916
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 1: forward for the elites to keep you know, the entire

1917
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:02,640
Speaker 1: thing from kind of coming apart. Let's go ahead and

1918
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 1: bring back that. Ran and Emily, I want to hear

1919
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 1: what their take was on the speech, and I think

1920
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 1: they're standing by there. They are. Emily, let me start

1921
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 1: with you. What were your overall takeaways from what we

1922
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:17,440
Speaker 1: listened to of Trump's speech. I'm curious about the optics.

1923
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 1: So I agree with a lot of what both of

1924
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 1: you just said. And I also think though that for

1925
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, even in the content of the speech, what

1926
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 1: makes Donald Trump donald Trump? It gets to this tension

1927
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,639
Speaker 1: that actually you guys are talking about with this media angle,

1928
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 1: is that what's always differentiated Donald Trump from every other

1929
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 1: boilerplate Republican candidate is that he says crazy things, he

1930
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: gets tons of media attention, and he then becomes the

1931
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 1: sun that our culture orbits like it's everything is just

1932
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 1: in Donald Trump's orbit. The entire culture becomes in Donald

1933
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 1: Trump's orbit and without that when he's going for the

1934
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 1: sort of normal optics of himself, you know, at a

1935
01:49:56,160 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 1: at a resort, at a hotel, in a ballroom, granted

1936
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 1: a very ornate ballroom. I saw someone on Twitter say

1937
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:05,640
Speaker 1: that Trump was announcing Louis the fourteenth was going to

1938
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 1: be his vice presidential candidate, which I thought was apt.

1939
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 1: It's just not how can you take It's like Trump

1940
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 1: is trying to do Trump without Trump, right, Like that's

1941
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 1: the big thing in Trump circles is like, let Trump

1942
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 1: be Trump, or you can't have Trump without Trump, Like

1943
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 1: DeSantis can never be Trump without Trump because it's impossible.

1944
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 1: Then why is Donald Trump himself trying to do it?

1945
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 1: I like Crystal's theory that it's a bid for the

1946
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 1: sort of rubber stamp from Republican elites that are tempted

1947
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 1: by DeSantis right now and also perhaps independent voters. But again,

1948
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 1: like Donald Trump is not going to win and beat

1949
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:43,679
Speaker 1: Joe Biden by being doctor Oz. Yeah, I completely Ryan,

1950
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:45,799
Speaker 1: Snap takeaway, what you think? What do you make of everything?

1951
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:49,519
Speaker 1: One of the big draws of Donald Trump in twenty

1952
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 1: sixteen was the fact that you weren't even sure if

1953
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 1: he wanted to win the presidency. Yeah, he he just

1954
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 1: wanted to get up on the stage, get up on

1955
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 1: the debate stage, say what he was going to say,

1956
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 1: didn't matter who he offended, and He's just gonna rock

1957
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 1: the boat and let the chips fall. Where they felt

1958
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 1: like that was that was a real appeal for people.

1959
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 1: There was an authenticity to that. There's a real striving

1960
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 1: from him on that stage. Like the energy that it

1961
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:18,720
Speaker 1: takes for him to read from the teleprompter rather than

1962
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 1: be himself shows just how desperately he wants to get

1963
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:25,799
Speaker 1: back to the White House. And there's something deeply pathetic

1964
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 1: about that desperation, like every politician has it. But that

1965
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 1: just means he's now like every other politician, right, and

1966
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,839
Speaker 1: so it just point undercuts so much of the energy

1967
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:38,639
Speaker 1: that he had. I think Crystal makes a great point

1968
01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:41,439
Speaker 1: of the paradox that he has to kind of rein

1969
01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:43,680
Speaker 1: it in order to get attention, but by raining it in,

1970
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 1: he will get less attention. And it goes back to

1971
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 1: the question of what what would his prospects look like

1972
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 1: if he hadn't inspired a mob to sack the Capitol

1973
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 1: on January sixth, Because that was the moment where Twitter, Facebook,

1974
01:51:57,080 --> 01:52:00,680
Speaker 1: the whole media were like, okay, like you crossed the

1975
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 1: line here, and so now like even though though this

1976
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 1: is great for ratings and great for numbers, like we're

1977
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 1: dialing this back here and so now he can't do

1978
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 1: the same shtick and get the attention. But without the shtick,

1979
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't get the attention. So who is he? Yeah, well,

1980
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,360
Speaker 1: and even the shtick is old, you know, I mean

1981
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 1: that's part of it. Like let's not pretend like these

1982
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:24,920
Speaker 1: news organizations are like doing the right their civic duty

1983
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:29,120
Speaker 1: by not platforming false election whatever. No, they like they

1984
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to rate the way that he

1985
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:32,639
Speaker 1: used to rate. I mean, that's part of the decision

1986
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:34,880
Speaker 1: making that goes in here, and for him, that's devastating

1987
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 1: because that's everything for him, and that's a lot of

1988
01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 1: his appeal is like his ability to touch the nerve

1989
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 1: and say the thing you're not supposed to say and

1990
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 1: piss off the person you're not supposed to piss off

1991
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 1: and offend them and like everybody freak out about it.

1992
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:49,880
Speaker 1: And if he's lost his ability to do that, then

1993
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he really has lost a core element of

1994
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 1: what the past, you know, However, many years have ultimately

1995
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 1: been about You know, Emily, one thing that I wanted

1996
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 1: to ask you specifically about is it's noteworthy to me

1997
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 1: that he doesn't really he's not all in on the

1998
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:11,320
Speaker 1: new cultural fights on the right, So none of the

1999
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:15,719
Speaker 1: schools stuff comes up, you know, on like quote unquote

2000
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 1: gender ideology, none of no CRT. He didn't use the

2001
01:53:20,360 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 1: word woke a single time while we were listening, which

2002
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,599
Speaker 1: from a Republican is like, whoa, you know, this is crazy?

2003
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 1: So that was what What do you make of that?

2004
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 1: Is that just you know, he doesn't feel like that's

2005
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 1: politically that salient or that powerful, packs that much of

2006
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:41,600
Speaker 1: a punch. Is it just those aren't the issues that

2007
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:45,000
Speaker 1: he's ever really been all in on or particularly passionate about.

2008
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 1: What do you make of that? I think it's a

2009
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 1: fascinating point, and I actually think it's interesting in context

2010
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 1: of what he didn't talk about this time either. He

2011
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:54,759
Speaker 1: used to talk about how everyone would have health insurance

2012
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 1: and it really pissed a lot of established Republicans off.

2013
01:53:57,520 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 1: He used to talk about I will never touch your

2014
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 1: social security. He used to talk about people struggling to

2015
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 1: feed their families, working multiple jobs, Forever Wars. This time

2016
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 1: he sounded like he was upset that Joe Biden wasn't

2017
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 1: waging war enough. I mean seriously, like it was just

2018
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 1: a very different, different Donald Trump. And I think part

2019
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:17,920
Speaker 1: of that problem is it's two things. One, it's when

2020
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 1: you're an incumbent or you've already been in office and

2021
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:25,360
Speaker 1: you didn't drain the swamp, it becomes enormously more difficult

2022
01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 1: to make the case that you are then going to

2023
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:30,880
Speaker 1: go in and drain the swamp. And Secondly, I think

2024
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, the reason Donald Trump won in twenty sixteen,

2025
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 1: among the many reasons, was that Hillary Clinton is the

2026
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 1: perfect foil, almost in the same way Fetterman is just

2027
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:41,760
Speaker 1: like the great foil for doctor Oz and vice versa.

2028
01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't think you get Donald Trump as president if

2029
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:48,440
Speaker 1: he's running against someone other than a Clinton. And when

2030
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 1: you take that power away from him, and he's now

2031
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 1: coming into a race where it's him against maybe Ron DeSantis,

2032
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:57,760
Speaker 1: maybe a Glenn Youngkin, people who have been shaped by

2033
01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 1: the party that he helped reshape, just completely different. And

2034
01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 1: he seems to be in this sort of straight jacket.

2035
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:07,400
Speaker 1: It's like he's going for the twenty twelve autopsy version

2036
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump, where I mean there was like very

2037
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 1: little economic populast. He talked about trade deals, he talked

2038
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 1: about the border, but that's all pretty I mean standard

2039
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 1: Republican fair at this point. It's not signature trump Ism.

2040
01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 1: And I just don't think you can have one without

2041
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 1: the other and have the same effect on the electorate.

2042
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 1: So that's the real, real conundrum. And also didn't talk

2043
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 1: about the FBI. He didn't talk about Russia Gate, as

2044
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 1: someone earlier, Socacer Crystal you mentioned, And so it was

2045
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 1: just a very very different version. So I'll say a

2046
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 1: couple of things little updates. There are I think couple

2047
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:43,840
Speaker 1: of I think important ones for us to discuss. He said. Quote,

2048
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 1: I am a victim of political corruption, alluding to the FBI,

2049
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: he said, and I was anticipating this as kind of

2050
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 1: a hit back against potential Ron DeSantis A tacks. He

2051
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:57,280
Speaker 1: said he would restore any unvaccinated member of the US

2052
01:55:57,280 --> 01:56:00,200
Speaker 1: military back to his jobs. Third, and this this is

2053
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 1: the most that he's gone so far in terms of voting.

2054
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 1: He just said and called for an end to early voting.

2055
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 1: He said, to prevent cheating, I will restore voter ID,

2056
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 1: we will have only paper ballots. We will have same

2057
01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 1: day voting, and we all want all votes to be

2058
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:19,160
Speaker 1: counted on election night, saying quote, our country is a

2059
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,800
Speaker 1: laughingstock right now. What do you make of that? Ryan,

2060
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 1: in the context of obviously going against mail in ballots

2061
01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 1: didn't help the Republicans in Georgia in twenty twenty certainly

2062
01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:31,840
Speaker 1: didn't help here in twenty twenty two. I think it's

2063
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 1: fascinating that, after all, to stop the Steel talk, this

2064
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 1: is the furthest that he's willing to go so far.

2065
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 1: And it's suicidal mail in ballot to help the party

2066
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 1: that use mail in ballots more than the other party.

2067
01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 1: Like if everybody equally uses mail in ballots, then you

2068
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 1: know it's not going to help one party right or

2069
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 1: the other. But as you saw in say Nevada, you

2070
01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 1: know you had several weeks of early voting in which

2071
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 1: Democrats are banking all of their votes. And I told

2072
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 1: Hemley this on the Daily Election I talked to a

2073
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 1: Republican operative that morning. He's like, we feel really good

2074
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 1: about Nevada. We're just getting pretty nervous about this weather

2075
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:12,320
Speaker 1: report that it might snow in Reno and it might

2076
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 1: rain in Las Vegas. So you put all of your

2077
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 1: eggs in the election day basket and it's you get

2078
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:22,200
Speaker 1: a freak snowstorm in Reno, then you're screwed. It rains

2079
01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 1: in Vegas, You're screwed. You have some computer outages in

2080
01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:29,120
Speaker 1: Maricopa County and you have long lines and Republicans can't vote.

2081
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 1: You're screwed. So here's Donald Trump again telegraphing to his

2082
01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:36,040
Speaker 1: supporters not to do early voting, and the fact that

2083
01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 1: he wants to get rid of it. That's cute, But like,

2084
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't run the governorships of Pennsylvania, of Wisconsin, of Michigan.

2085
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 1: He lost all those secretary of state races, so he

2086
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 1: doesn't have the power to implement that by the twenty

2087
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 1: twenty four elections. So all that his words are doing

2088
01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 1: now are discouraging Republicans from taking up mail in balloting,

2089
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,520
Speaker 1: which is just going to hurt them in the long run. Emily,

2090
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 1: I want to pick up on something you were saying.

2091
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:05,240
Speaker 1: You were talking about like, you know, we're sort of

2092
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:08,520
Speaker 1: missing the core of trump Ism or the core of

2093
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 1: the magabase in this speech, and I was asking myself, well,

2094
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 1: what is that core at this point? You know, after

2095
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 1: like it clearly is not the same messaging or rhetoric

2096
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:20,040
Speaker 1: as you were pointing out that was there in twenty sixteen,

2097
01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 1: where you know, there were some parts that really scrambled

2098
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 1: the political circuitry. And what it really comes down to

2099
01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 1: in terms of what he has centered the party around,

2100
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 1: is the stop the steal conspiracy. I mean, that is

2101
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 1: the beating heart of the movement. That's why you had

2102
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:37,600
Speaker 1: so many election deniers who got through primaries and ended

2103
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 1: up in positions where they might have won elections. Many

2104
01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:42,839
Speaker 1: of them just lost. But that was a real litmus

2105
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 1: test and that was a real energizer. And I mean

2106
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:49,280
Speaker 1: I understand that because if you genuinely, genuinely believe that

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Speaker 1: a presidential election was just tolen, like yeah, that would

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01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:54,960
Speaker 1: be a very motivating issue. So I think if he's

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01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:57,920
Speaker 1: trying to take that off the table when he has

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01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 1: spent years making that the center of what everybody in

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01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 1: the party cares about, I mean, you know, yeah, they

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01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:07,480
Speaker 1: care about immigration, but that's not like what it was

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01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. Build the Wall is not the thing

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01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:12,480
Speaker 1: that it was at that point. You know, they care

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01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 1: about inflation, they care about these other things, but the

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01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 1: true like passionate, beating heart of trump Ism at this

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01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 1: point is stop the steal, and it was really used

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01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:24,960
Speaker 1: as a litmus test. That's the exact right phrase for him.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I just got a text from somebody

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Speaker 1: who's in the room at the speech right now as

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01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:32,080
Speaker 1: it's ongoing, who said that people are leaving, like people

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01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 1: are walking out of the room and that's yeah, sad.

2123
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:39,680
Speaker 1: So that was the sort of word that was I

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01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 1: got in a text message basically that it felt sad,

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01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:45,080
Speaker 1: and it's I think, kind of a remarkable thing. He

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01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 1: continues to go on. This guy. He holds court for hours.

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01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 1: He has hours and hours long rallies. I don't know

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01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 1: what the audience is like, how it compares to a

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01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 1: rally in this case. I assume it's more political professionals

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01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 1: and journalists than it is, you know, the sort of

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01:59:58,800 --> 02:00:04,000
Speaker 1: tailgaters in Ohio, Pennspania, Wisconsin. But to your question, Crystal,

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02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 1: it's like when you have Donald Trump in this speech

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02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:15,080
Speaker 1: going just like kind of in the establishment Republican direction

2134
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:18,200
Speaker 1: to appeal to maybe to the political elites, to appeal

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02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:22,720
Speaker 1: maybe to independence and not really getting into the like

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02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:25,160
Speaker 1: it was a distraction, like it talks to it. To me,

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02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:26,800
Speaker 1: it speaks of how much stop this deal was a

2138
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 1: distraction for Republicans. Josh Holly coming out and saying this

2139
02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:34,840
Speaker 1: last week was the funeral for the Republican Party, Well, listen,

2140
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:37,360
Speaker 1: I wish that were the case. But if it were,

2141
02:00:37,480 --> 02:00:40,120
Speaker 1: why is Donald Trump talking like Donald Trump is talking

2142
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:43,280
Speaker 1: right now. It's because he didn't have the consensus. He

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02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:46,040
Speaker 1: didn't have the will or political ability to really meaningfully

2144
02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:48,240
Speaker 1: drain the swamp. And I know that's a hard thing

2145
02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:50,920
Speaker 1: to do, impossible almost, but what was one of the

2146
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:53,600
Speaker 1: first things he did? He made the CEO of eggs

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02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:56,080
Speaker 1: on the Secretary of State and installed a bunch of

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02:00:56,120 --> 02:01:00,400
Speaker 1: people from goldmin in like in his administration. And I mean,

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02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:03,440
Speaker 1: it's just like outrageous to then come back and pitch

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02:01:03,480 --> 02:01:06,920
Speaker 1: and try to capture the same energy Instead. What he's doing,

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02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:10,080
Speaker 1: I really think is play acting as a president as

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02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:12,440
Speaker 1: he always wanted to be. He's like playing the role

2153
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:16,480
Speaker 1: of president. We saw the stage set up today and

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02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 1: I just do not think that works for Donald Trump.

2155
02:01:19,120 --> 02:01:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't think the math adds up. Franklin, You know,

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02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:23,360
Speaker 1: my main takeaway was this never should have been at

2157
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:25,920
Speaker 1: mar Lago, should have been in a rally he's always defeated.

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02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:27,680
Speaker 1: It fed off the energy of the room. It was

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02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:30,360
Speaker 1: a huge mistake, I think, to do it the way

2160
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:32,360
Speaker 1: that he's the only one that can have rallies like that.

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02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:34,240
Speaker 1: Right now, that's so true. You know. It's like Trump

2162
02:01:34,320 --> 02:01:37,000
Speaker 1: rallies are like concerts, and in terms of political events,

2163
02:01:37,040 --> 02:01:39,600
Speaker 1: I've been the like to covering them. There is nothing

2164
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:42,600
Speaker 1: like it. I've been to many political events that is

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Speaker 1: in a league of its own. Well, this was boring.

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02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:49,280
Speaker 1: You know. He had originally really wanted to announce at

2167
02:01:49,360 --> 02:01:53,720
Speaker 1: Jadie Vance's rally, and to be honest with you, that

2168
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 1: probably would have been a better call. And his advisors,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is all the reporting. Who knows what

2170
02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:00,640
Speaker 1: really happened, but this is what's been leaked. His advisor

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02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:02,880
Speaker 1: sort of talked him down off that ledge. No, you're

2172
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:06,120
Speaker 1: not don't do that. And so the compromised position was, Okay,

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02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:09,120
Speaker 1: we'll announce that, we're gonna do the announcement, and then

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Speaker 1: we'll do it, you know, a week after election day,

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02:02:11,480 --> 02:02:14,000
Speaker 1: and that'll be the thing. And so you end up

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02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:15,920
Speaker 1: that's how you end up with this sort of like

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Speaker 1: compromise speech situation. Obviously, in a week's time. It's not

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Speaker 1: enough to spin up a whole rally. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we just got an update that he's just now wrapping

2180
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:27,160
Speaker 1: up the speech. So he went about an hour and

2181
02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:29,720
Speaker 1: ten Minute's not unusual for him, but it is unusual

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02:02:29,720 --> 02:02:32,000
Speaker 1: that it really feels like it's an hour and ten

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02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:35,160
Speaker 1: minutes and felt like it kind of dragged on and on.

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Speaker 1: You know, Ryan, I'm curious for your take on the

2185
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:43,600
Speaker 1: question I asked Emily about how he doesn't he, at

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02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:47,360
Speaker 1: least in this speech, did not really go into the

2187
02:02:47,720 --> 02:02:51,520
Speaker 1: new sort of cultural interest and obsessions of the right.

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02:02:52,680 --> 02:02:55,680
Speaker 1: His own obsessions obviously stopped this deal, so he takes

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02:02:55,680 --> 02:02:59,720
Speaker 1: that off the table as like an energy and passion generator,

2190
02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:02,680
Speaker 1: and he didn't go into some of the new interest

2191
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:06,800
Speaker 1: in the sort of like cultural right focuses and fixations.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of that? My guess is that

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02:03:10,440 --> 02:03:13,560
Speaker 1: he's just not into them. Yeah, it's just not a thing, right,

2194
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:17,960
Speaker 1: a cultural conservative. He's like everybody assumes that he's pro choice,

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02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:20,800
Speaker 1: Like I mean, he's been pro choice most of his life.

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02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:23,720
Speaker 1: He just kind of lied and said he was not so,

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02:03:23,960 --> 02:03:27,160
Speaker 1: and everybody knew well and finally that they don't care

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02:03:27,240 --> 02:03:31,440
Speaker 1: that's that's actually a great point because he'd also while

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Speaker 1: we were listening, he didn't bring up abortion day. I

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02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:35,080
Speaker 1: was just looking because I was about to bring at

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Speaker 1: that point. I mean, is that extraordinary? That is extraordinary,

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Speaker 1: because that is one of the things that I thought

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02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:43,520
Speaker 1: he would really sell to the base on. Is I'm

2204
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:45,720
Speaker 1: the dude that got it done. You know, for years

2205
02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:47,920
Speaker 1: and years we've been talking about it, and we've been

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02:03:47,960 --> 02:03:50,480
Speaker 1: hoping for well, I put the justices on the court

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02:03:50,520 --> 02:03:53,880
Speaker 1: and they did the thing. But you know, there's been

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02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:57,520
Speaker 1: reporting that he was not He saw right away when

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02:03:57,600 --> 02:03:59,160
Speaker 1: Dobbs came down that this was going to be a

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02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:02,480
Speaker 1: problem for republic There's also reporting that he all along

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02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:04,680
Speaker 1: he thought Republicans would do okay in the midterms, but

2212
02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:06,680
Speaker 1: he didn't think they were going to have the massive

2213
02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:09,920
Speaker 1: red wave because he thought abortion was going to be

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02:04:09,960 --> 02:04:14,120
Speaker 1: a problem for them. So very noteworthy that he seems

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02:04:14,160 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 1: to have stayed almost entirely or completely away from a

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02:04:17,400 --> 02:04:19,280
Speaker 1: topic that I really thought he would sell hard to

2217
02:04:19,320 --> 02:04:22,360
Speaker 1: the base well and quickly. Just when Ron DeSantis won

2218
02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:25,920
Speaker 1: last week, he said Florida is where wokeism goes to die.

2219
02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:31,200
Speaker 1: Like that's a huge contrast with the strange that Trump's sorry,

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02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:34,720
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, yeah, right, Ben. You know, DeSantis wants to

2221
02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:37,360
Speaker 1: be the guy doing cringe on on social media. Trump

2222
02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:40,000
Speaker 1: wants to do the cringe on on truth social social

2223
02:04:40,440 --> 02:04:43,040
Speaker 1: and got on their bases covered. Trump wants to be

2224
02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 1: the guy that's going to ban abortion in the future

2225
02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 1: if you just continue to give him power. I don't

2226
02:04:49,400 --> 02:04:51,360
Speaker 1: think he wants to be the guy that banned abortion.

2227
02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:53,800
Speaker 1: Like I think he's think embarrassed about that and thinks

2228
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:56,160
Speaker 1: it was a mistake. Every leak it ever was to

2229
02:04:56,200 --> 02:04:59,040
Speaker 1: come out from the Trumpets or from the Trump advisors

2230
02:04:59,160 --> 02:05:00,640
Speaker 1: was he thought that it was a huge not a

2231
02:05:00,680 --> 02:05:02,480
Speaker 1: mistake necessarily, but he's like, this is going to be

2232
02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:06,040
Speaker 1: a problem allegedly. You know, Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haverman

2233
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:09,640
Speaker 1: were all writing before the election or before his announcement

2234
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:12,720
Speaker 1: that the part of the reason why he anticipated not

2235
02:05:12,760 --> 02:05:14,440
Speaker 1: having as much of a red wave as he thought

2236
02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:17,040
Speaker 1: abortion was going to be more important in a lot

2237
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:18,920
Speaker 1: of ways. You know, he got almost too much of

2238
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:21,280
Speaker 1: what he wished for because running on it was very

2239
02:05:21,320 --> 02:05:24,360
Speaker 1: powerful for a lot of these evangelicals. To me, the

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Speaker 1: crazy thing is no stop to steal, no abortion to

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02:05:28,120 --> 02:05:31,640
Speaker 1: have neither of those. In a sixty eight minute speech

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02:05:31,960 --> 02:05:35,240
Speaker 1: by Donald Trump in this election, that is just underscores

2243
02:05:35,320 --> 02:05:39,880
Speaker 1: again that he was not speaking, I think necessarily to

2244
02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:43,760
Speaker 1: the general election, or maybe he was in his own mind,

2245
02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:46,800
Speaker 1: but he was trying to shore up Emily Republican elites,

2246
02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:50,480
Speaker 1: saying this is not, you know, the election announcement that

2247
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:53,120
Speaker 1: many of them probably would have anticipated, and he's not

2248
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:57,320
Speaker 1: necessarily giving a reason for Ron DeSantis and others to

2249
02:05:57,400 --> 02:06:00,120
Speaker 1: jump in or what am I reading that differently? How

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02:06:00,120 --> 02:06:03,040
Speaker 1: would you read it? Yeah? I think he's trying to

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02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:06,320
Speaker 1: sort of corner the presidential like I have been the

2252
02:06:06,360 --> 02:06:09,680
Speaker 1: president of the United States. I accomplished X, Y, and Z.

2253
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 1: I have been there before. This other guy is just

2254
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:15,600
Speaker 1: a governor. This other guy's a senator. But I am

2255
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:18,879
Speaker 1: a former president and this is sort of my lane.

2256
02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:22,040
Speaker 1: I have done it. And I think that's probably why

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02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:24,520
Speaker 1: he staged it at mar A Lago in the sort

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02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:27,360
Speaker 1: of ornate ballroom as opposed to the casual setting of

2259
02:06:27,440 --> 02:06:29,760
Speaker 1: a rally. I don't know that for sure, but I

2260
02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:32,160
Speaker 1: think that's why they tried to make it look very formal.

2261
02:06:32,200 --> 02:06:34,520
Speaker 1: I think that's why he stuck to the script intentionally

2262
02:06:34,760 --> 02:06:37,800
Speaker 1: got there on time, and I think the speech was

2263
02:06:37,840 --> 02:06:40,200
Speaker 1: way too long, but he hit all of the sort

2264
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:44,480
Speaker 1: of notes that you establishment at Washington Republicans would want

2265
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:47,839
Speaker 1: him to hit. So it's strange, and I think crystal

2266
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:50,200
Speaker 1: theory is still the best explanation that what he's trying

2267
02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:55,160
Speaker 1: to do is reassure the consultant class, the professional political class,

2268
02:06:55,640 --> 02:06:59,800
Speaker 1: that he can be presidential, he can appeal to independence,

2269
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 1: he can be the guy who's the contrast with Joe Biden.

2270
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:07,640
Speaker 1: He immediately drew himself into contrast with Joe Biden as

2271
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:11,800
Speaker 1: opposed to run DeSantis or other Republicans, whereas before he

2272
02:07:11,960 --> 02:07:15,400
Speaker 1: was drawing himself in contrast with the entire political class. Right.

2273
02:07:15,560 --> 02:07:18,280
Speaker 1: And I know he's mentioned the corrupt system a couple

2274
02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:21,120
Speaker 1: of times in that speech. It wasn't the theme in

2275
02:07:21,160 --> 02:07:23,120
Speaker 1: the past. The theme would have been draining the swamp,

2276
02:07:23,200 --> 02:07:26,600
Speaker 1: the systems corrupt quote, I alone can fix it, And

2277
02:07:26,720 --> 02:07:28,880
Speaker 1: it's much much harder to make that pitch when you're

2278
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:31,800
Speaker 1: an incumbent. So I think he sees his lane as

2279
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:34,760
Speaker 1: being someone who is the heavyweight, the former president who

2280
02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:37,880
Speaker 1: can come in and just get it done, get the

2281
02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:41,520
Speaker 1: old coalition together. Peel off those independents. But again, I

2282
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:43,800
Speaker 1: don't see how that math works for him. If he's

2283
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:46,200
Speaker 1: running the doctor Oz campaign, He's not going to put

2284
02:07:46,240 --> 02:07:48,720
Speaker 1: up the same kind of numbers in Wisconsin's third, in

2285
02:07:48,840 --> 02:07:52,880
Speaker 1: Erie County and all of those different places, because the

2286
02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:55,640
Speaker 1: people that crossed over and voted for him aren't all

2287
02:07:55,640 --> 02:07:57,960
Speaker 1: members of that hardcore base, and some of them are

2288
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:02,120
Speaker 1: exasperated too. I mean, on the other hand, if he

2289
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:06,200
Speaker 1: is able to be boring, buttoned up Trump like he

2290
02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:09,760
Speaker 1: was tonight for when he needs to be, and he's

2291
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:12,600
Speaker 1: able to do his thing and be the guy at

2292
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:15,200
Speaker 1: the rally, putting on the show and making the wild

2293
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:18,360
Speaker 1: claims for the base when he needs to be and

2294
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:21,360
Speaker 1: wants to be, then maybe that, you know, maybe that

2295
02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:24,480
Speaker 1: works out for him. Ryan, I guess my question is

2296
02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:27,800
Speaker 1: do you think this speech, which was different than what

2297
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:31,360
Speaker 1: we expected and different than most Donald Trump's speeches and

2298
02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, kind of boring and not all that remarkable

2299
02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:36,560
Speaker 1: ultimately and kind of very low energy, do you think

2300
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:38,640
Speaker 1: it does damage to him or do you think that

2301
02:08:38,720 --> 02:08:41,960
Speaker 1: he accomplished what his goal was, which was to signal

2302
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:44,720
Speaker 1: to people, see I can read the teleprompter, I can

2303
02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:46,440
Speaker 1: be the good boy I can stay in the lane

2304
02:08:46,440 --> 02:08:48,680
Speaker 1: where you want me to stay. I think you're right

2305
02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:51,160
Speaker 1: that it's too early to say on that, because you know,

2306
02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 1: maybe the jacklin Hyde thing works for him down the road.

2307
02:08:54,960 --> 02:08:58,520
Speaker 1: That's certainly possible. But I think the point about abortion

2308
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:01,880
Speaker 1: not being mentioned is is, you know, really needs even

2309
02:09:01,920 --> 02:09:05,640
Speaker 1: more unpacking, Like if you know, the secret to Trump's

2310
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:07,880
Speaker 1: success was we talk all we want about the white

2311
02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:11,160
Speaker 1: working class and all that, but it's really the evangelical vote. Yes,

2312
02:09:11,560 --> 02:09:14,400
Speaker 1: And that was an extraordinarily pragmatic vote that was like

2313
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:17,440
Speaker 1: willing to put up with this moral train wreck that

2314
02:09:17,560 --> 02:09:20,480
Speaker 1: is Donald Trump because they were going to get what

2315
02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:22,920
Speaker 1: he was promising, which was a bunch of justices on

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court that we're going to overturn Roe v. Wade. Right,

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Speaker 1: So now they've gotten that, they've overturned Roe v. Wade.

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Speaker 1: Now he's no longer interested in their culture war stuff.

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Speaker 1: He's still a moral train wreck, So what what does

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Speaker 1: he have to sell them anymore? Well, and not only that,

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Speaker 1: not only that, but I mean there will be other candidate.

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Speaker 1: Mike Pence is all but said he's going to run,

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Speaker 1: and he would run. He's already said I want a

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Speaker 1: national abortion band. I mean, that's the next push for

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Speaker 1: that particular group of voters, you know, their core, cause

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Speaker 1: they've got a champion and Mike Pence. But you know,

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Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis has also been very reluctant to go all

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Speaker 1: in with the evangelicals on abortions. So it's not a

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Speaker 1: point in contrast really between the two of them. It's

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Speaker 1: also interesting, yeah, well, I was gonna say. It's also

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Speaker 1: interesting because one of the things a lot of the

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Speaker 1: sort of national conservatives or right populists point to as

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Speaker 1: a major accomplishment of the Trump administration is in executive

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Speaker 1: order he issued late in his presidency on critical race theory.

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Speaker 1: And to Crystal's point, we heard so little about that.

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Speaker 1: We heard so little of the rhetoric that a lot

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Speaker 1: of people on the right, especially in the sort of

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02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:37,040
Speaker 1: populace Trump's sphere, see us being powerful and potent, which

2339
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:39,800
Speaker 1: is the you know, Republicans need to become the party

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02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:42,320
Speaker 1: of families, they need to become the party of parents,

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Speaker 1: whatever that means. And there was like virtually none of that,

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Speaker 1: despite the fact that if you you know, went down

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Speaker 1: to the NATCN conference or Seapac or wherever and listen

2344
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:55,800
Speaker 1: to what people were saying, they're talking about that and instead,

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02:10:56,400 --> 02:11:00,360
Speaker 1: I mean maybe though it's because Donald Trump realizes that,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's the competition. He's not going to be

2347
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Speaker 1: the abortion candidate in a race with Mike Pence. Like,

2348
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Speaker 1: if you're a single issue voter, Donald Trump's not going

2349
02:11:09,800 --> 02:11:12,160
Speaker 1: to be your guy in a primary against Mike Pence

2350
02:11:12,280 --> 02:11:16,280
Speaker 1: or Head Cruz or whomever else. But then again, this

2351
02:11:16,360 --> 02:11:18,520
Speaker 1: is what's so hard about it. That's the fundamental tension.

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02:11:18,840 --> 02:11:22,720
Speaker 1: If you're a conservative voter, period, why would you go

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02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:26,240
Speaker 1: with Trump over DeSantis? And I think that explains the

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02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:29,120
Speaker 1: tone of the speech tonight, which is you would go

2355
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:32,040
Speaker 1: with him because he's been there before, as opposed to

2356
02:11:32,320 --> 02:11:34,640
Speaker 1: his old pitch, which is you would go with him

2357
02:11:34,640 --> 02:11:37,200
Speaker 1: because he's never been there before, and he'll he'll drain

2358
02:11:37,240 --> 02:11:39,400
Speaker 1: the swamp. Yeah, I think I think that's the main thing.

2359
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, Ryan, let's play Devil's advocate here. As

2360
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Speaker 1: Emily just said, there's a lot of structural reasons as

2361
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Speaker 1: to why Trump was why Trump is powerful with the bass.

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02:11:49,120 --> 02:11:50,760
Speaker 1: Why you know, if you're a conservative, you may not

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Speaker 1: go with him. But while these new people could stick

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Speaker 1: with him. It's only November fifteenth, twenty twenty two. Two

2365
02:11:56,120 --> 02:11:59,400
Speaker 1: years is a long time A lot can change. So

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Speaker 1: what to your you know, structural takeaway in seeing how

2367
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Speaker 1: the Democrats may handle Trump now going forward as a

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Speaker 1: result of this speech, Having now watched it, I think

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Speaker 1: that one big thing to watch is how confident Republicans

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Speaker 1: are about their chances in twenty twenty four And I,

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02:12:16,720 --> 02:12:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, no matter who's the nominee. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's what he was trying to queue up. He's like, Okay, look, yeah, yeah,

2373
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Speaker 1: we didn't do great this time, but in two years,

2374
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Speaker 1: trust me, it's going to be so bad that you know,

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Speaker 1: even though I'm a bad candidate, I will be able

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Speaker 1: to win. Like I think that was kind of the

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02:12:31,120 --> 02:12:35,320
Speaker 1: subtext of what he was saying there. And he has

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02:12:35,760 --> 02:12:38,960
Speaker 1: to some degree the power to affect that change. His

2379
02:12:39,080 --> 02:12:43,120
Speaker 1: good friend, the crown prints over in Saudi Arabia could

2380
02:12:43,200 --> 02:12:45,839
Speaker 1: jack gas prices back up to six or seven dollars

2381
02:12:45,840 --> 02:12:48,960
Speaker 1: a gallon, and no matter what j Pal does push

2382
02:12:49,120 --> 02:12:51,320
Speaker 1: push the country into recession. J palell might push the

2383
02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:55,200
Speaker 1: country into recession even without MBS has helped so that

2384
02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:58,840
Speaker 1: I think if you do see that, if you start

2385
02:12:58,880 --> 02:13:03,160
Speaker 1: to see the economy interior rate, and if you see

2386
02:13:03,160 --> 02:13:06,960
Speaker 1: a crowded primary, like not not just Pens, but not

2387
02:13:07,000 --> 02:13:09,160
Speaker 1: just the sand As maybe a couple of others that

2388
02:13:09,280 --> 02:13:12,040
Speaker 1: allows him to skate through. He gets some of his

2389
02:13:12,120 --> 02:13:14,640
Speaker 1: mojo back in the rallies. Yeah, I wouldn't count him out,

2390
02:13:14,680 --> 02:13:18,960
Speaker 1: but it certainly doesn't look good for him now. Yep, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: I have another theory about why he didn't talk about abortion,

2392
02:13:23,680 --> 02:13:25,920
Speaker 1: why he didn't talk about trans issues, He didn't talk

2393
02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:29,720
Speaker 1: about CRT, didn't talk about anti woke, which is that,

2394
02:13:30,160 --> 02:13:33,440
Speaker 1: you know, for all of Trump's issues and failings and

2395
02:13:33,480 --> 02:13:36,080
Speaker 1: flaws and all the rest, He's oftentimes had a better

2396
02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:41,360
Speaker 1: political gut instinct than other Republicans, and that shows up

2397
02:13:41,400 --> 02:13:43,760
Speaker 1: in some of you know, the immediate reaction to Roe

2398
02:13:43,760 --> 02:13:46,720
Speaker 1: being overturned, for example, and him continuing to hold the

2399
02:13:46,720 --> 02:13:48,120
Speaker 1: thought of like, you know, guys, I don't know that

2400
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Speaker 1: this is going to go as well for you in

2401
02:13:49,760 --> 02:13:52,360
Speaker 1: the midterms as you ultimately think. There are reports that

2402
02:13:52,440 --> 02:13:56,400
Speaker 1: also after he watched the Fetterman debate, he had the

2403
02:13:56,440 --> 02:13:59,800
Speaker 1: opposite take of all the you know, strategists to all

2404
02:13:59,840 --> 02:14:02,760
Speaker 1: this is devastating. He reportedly was like, you know, I

2405
02:14:02,760 --> 02:14:04,160
Speaker 1: think people are going to feel bad for him. I

2406
02:14:04,200 --> 02:14:06,160
Speaker 1: don't think this is going to hurt him the way

2407
02:14:06,200 --> 02:14:08,840
Speaker 1: that y'all think it's going to. So, you know, we

2408
02:14:08,920 --> 02:14:11,240
Speaker 1: just had an election where Republicans leaned into a lot

2409
02:14:11,240 --> 02:14:14,600
Speaker 1: of these cultural issues and it didn't go well. I mean,

2410
02:14:14,600 --> 02:14:16,920
Speaker 1: even at the local level, they're a big push to

2411
02:14:17,000 --> 02:14:19,520
Speaker 1: take over school boards and all of that. That didn't

2412
02:14:19,560 --> 02:14:22,640
Speaker 1: go nearly as well as they thought it was going to,

2413
02:14:22,880 --> 02:14:26,400
Speaker 1: even when you're just focused on these like school level issues.

2414
02:14:26,920 --> 02:14:28,960
Speaker 1: So he may have a sense that these issues for

2415
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:32,600
Speaker 1: a general electorate or an independent audience aren't the selling

2416
02:14:32,640 --> 02:14:36,960
Speaker 1: point that a lot of other conservatives think they are right.

2417
02:14:37,040 --> 02:14:40,920
Speaker 1: And I think he's probably right, you know, particularly on

2418
02:14:41,120 --> 02:14:44,000
Speaker 1: Row And you know, it was like it was much

2419
02:14:44,040 --> 02:14:46,800
Speaker 1: easier for him to sell it in theory, like to

2420
02:14:48,120 --> 02:14:50,600
Speaker 1: tell the audience like, you know, don't worry, you know,

2421
02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm with you, We're going to get this done, when

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02:14:53,000 --> 02:14:55,360
Speaker 1: people didn't believe that it was actually going to happen,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it almost didn't accept you know, except

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02:14:58,720 --> 02:15:01,640
Speaker 1: for Ruth Bader ginsbur Are, you know, passing away at

2425
02:15:01,640 --> 02:15:03,440
Speaker 1: the at the very end, like the idea that he

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02:15:03,520 --> 02:15:05,640
Speaker 1: was going to get to a point three justices who

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02:15:05,640 --> 02:15:10,920
Speaker 1: then immediately would overturn Row Isn't isn't something that I

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02:15:10,960 --> 02:15:13,880
Speaker 1: think anybody understood could happen that quickly. I mean people

2429
02:15:13,880 --> 02:15:16,920
Speaker 1: people were definitely predicting that it would happen, but just

2430
02:15:16,960 --> 02:15:20,200
Speaker 1: not that quickly. And so he's again kind of victim,

2431
02:15:20,320 --> 02:15:22,520
Speaker 1: victim of his own success there. But I think you're right,

2432
02:15:22,840 --> 02:15:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, he he has spent an enormous amount of

2433
02:15:25,280 --> 02:15:28,400
Speaker 1: time in kind of in the world of Hollywood and

2434
02:15:28,400 --> 02:15:30,680
Speaker 1: and in a in a broader world than a lot

2435
02:15:30,680 --> 02:15:34,640
Speaker 1: of Republicans who are you know, in the in a

2436
02:15:34,720 --> 02:15:37,280
Speaker 1: right wing ecosystem, in the right wing bubble, whereas he's

2437
02:15:37,320 --> 02:15:40,000
Speaker 1: been you know, across the entire kind of pop culture.

2438
02:15:40,520 --> 02:15:43,400
Speaker 1: And so I think he does recognize that, you know,

2439
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:45,680
Speaker 1: he lived through the twenty tens. I don't think he

2440
02:15:45,760 --> 02:15:48,120
Speaker 1: thinks that this culture war stuff is going to be

2441
02:15:48,280 --> 02:15:52,600
Speaker 1: majoritarian fast enough for him to for him to ride it.

2442
02:15:52,960 --> 02:15:56,000
Speaker 1: What do you think, Emily, Well, he also had a

2443
02:15:56,000 --> 02:15:59,920
Speaker 1: really good gut instinct on trade and immigration and form

2444
02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:03,120
Speaker 1: and entanglements, and I just didn't hear much of that

2445
02:16:03,200 --> 02:16:05,840
Speaker 1: in the speech either. So I think there's a lot

2446
02:16:05,880 --> 02:16:09,480
Speaker 1: of truth to the fun. He did go in on trade,

2447
02:16:09,760 --> 02:16:15,000
Speaker 1: and Ukraine and Russia and North Korea. Immigration he was

2448
02:16:15,040 --> 02:16:16,880
Speaker 1: going when we actually cut away, he was doing this

2449
02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:21,880
Speaker 1: whole typical immigration, build the wall thing. I just don't

2450
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:26,280
Speaker 1: know that those those issues aren't the like they aren't

2451
02:16:26,360 --> 02:16:29,720
Speaker 1: the burning passion of the base, the way that some

2452
02:16:29,800 --> 02:16:31,680
Speaker 1: of you know that stopped the Steelers, for example, at

2453
02:16:31,720 --> 02:16:33,760
Speaker 1: this point, why were you saying, Emily going, well, I

2454
02:16:33,840 --> 02:16:35,440
Speaker 1: just was. I was saying. You had a funny tweet

2455
02:16:35,440 --> 02:16:40,000
Speaker 1: where you were like, where is the snake and the past?

2456
02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:43,520
Speaker 1: He painted this very vivid picture of America tapping into

2457
02:16:43,600 --> 02:16:47,240
Speaker 1: these issues, saying you're getting screwed. The borders are wide open,

2458
02:16:47,280 --> 02:16:49,520
Speaker 1: people are flooding through. So he definitely did the sort

2459
02:16:49,520 --> 02:16:52,440
Speaker 1: of paint by numbers version of you know, some of

2460
02:16:52,480 --> 02:16:55,640
Speaker 1: those issues. But he used to like remember the reaction

2461
02:16:55,720 --> 02:16:59,280
Speaker 1: to his American Carnage inauguration speech, which sounded a lot

2462
02:16:59,400 --> 02:17:01,959
Speaker 1: like a lot of beaches he'd given previously. That just

2463
02:17:02,040 --> 02:17:05,720
Speaker 1: painted this very dark but vivid and visceral picture of

2464
02:17:05,760 --> 02:17:09,240
Speaker 1: the country. And he always had that sense with immigration

2465
02:17:09,360 --> 02:17:11,280
Speaker 1: that it was really strong and that he could use

2466
02:17:11,320 --> 02:17:13,879
Speaker 1: that as a gateway into the Republican Party. When he

2467
02:17:13,920 --> 02:17:16,480
Speaker 1: was calling into Fox News for years in the twenty tens,

2468
02:17:16,640 --> 02:17:19,120
Speaker 1: he was talking all the time about immigration and trade,

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02:17:19,360 --> 02:17:21,760
Speaker 1: and he did. He absolutely did touch on those things.

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02:17:21,840 --> 02:17:23,680
Speaker 1: I guess I just didn't see it wrapped into this

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02:17:23,800 --> 02:17:28,520
Speaker 1: broader narrative about American decay. It was talking points. I

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02:17:28,560 --> 02:17:30,760
Speaker 1: think felt felt like it. I think you guys are right.

2473
02:17:30,920 --> 02:17:33,480
Speaker 1: I mean what I'm really hearing is like thematically, it

2474
02:17:33,560 --> 02:17:37,879
Speaker 1: wasn't as on point, It wasn't a good performance stylistically,

2475
02:17:38,120 --> 02:17:43,000
Speaker 1: it was mish mash. Some takeaways and what wasn't included, whatnot.

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02:17:43,160 --> 02:17:46,080
Speaker 1: I think my major one is, look, we still got

2477
02:17:46,120 --> 02:17:49,720
Speaker 1: two years. Anything can happened. Oh yeah, we got a

2478
02:17:49,760 --> 02:17:53,640
Speaker 1: long long road ahead of us, and Emily and Ryan,

2479
02:17:53,680 --> 02:17:55,720
Speaker 1: we are very glad to have you guys by our

2480
02:17:55,800 --> 02:17:59,320
Speaker 1: side so we can all get through this together. Guys

2481
02:17:59,320 --> 02:18:01,400
Speaker 1: saying you guys, well, for me, it's stay up late.

2482
02:18:01,400 --> 02:18:03,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not for you, but thank you for staying

2483
02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:06,480
Speaker 1: up late with us tonight. Yeah, thank you guys. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I do think sager. For me, the most stunning parts

2485
02:18:10,400 --> 02:18:12,520
Speaker 1: are the pieces that were left out, ye, like abortion

2486
02:18:12,920 --> 02:18:17,640
Speaker 1: not being there really super noteworthy, and then the fact

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02:18:17,720 --> 02:18:20,480
Speaker 1: that you don't have the stop to steal claims also

2488
02:18:20,680 --> 02:18:24,200
Speaker 1: really super noteworthy. And then just the style of the

2489
02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:28,600
Speaker 1: speech that was clearly very intentional choice. And you know,

2490
02:18:29,320 --> 02:18:31,920
Speaker 1: as you are aptly pointing out, like, this is just

2491
02:18:31,959 --> 02:18:33,960
Speaker 1: the beginning. This is day one. He's gonna, I'm sure,

2492
02:18:34,000 --> 02:18:36,280
Speaker 1: go and do a rally and be like the crazy

2493
02:18:36,520 --> 02:18:38,680
Speaker 1: thing that we expect and say all kinds of things

2494
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Speaker 1: that are going to make people pull their hair ound

2495
02:18:40,280 --> 02:18:42,480
Speaker 1: and we'll see how it all unfolds. Yeah. Look, I

2496
02:18:42,480 --> 02:18:45,400
Speaker 1: mean this could be an asterisk. We could forget it.

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02:18:45,440 --> 02:18:47,039
Speaker 1: You know, six months from now we may not be

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02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:48,920
Speaker 1: talking about it at all. On the other hand, you know,

2499
02:18:48,920 --> 02:18:51,800
Speaker 1: if he loses or if something really happens, we could say, well,

2500
02:18:51,840 --> 02:18:54,960
Speaker 1: this was the lackluster beginning to effectively what is a

2501
02:18:55,040 --> 02:18:59,680
Speaker 1: lackluster effort? Again, I have been humbled many times. I

2502
02:18:59,800 --> 02:19:02,240
Speaker 1: have no idea what will happen. All I can say

2503
02:19:02,320 --> 02:19:04,640
Speaker 1: is what exactly is going down right at this moment.

2504
02:19:04,720 --> 02:19:07,360
Speaker 1: So anyways, it was a real pleasure being with you all.

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Speaker 1: Just so we have right now. As we said in

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Speaker 1: our last live stream, we had the discount code. So

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Speaker 1: we can do next time around, learning from the midterms,

2521
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Speaker 1: try and expand our coverage. Getting someone in house who

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Speaker 1: more people on the ground, all of those things that

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Speaker 1: you guys, well, we love you, Thank you for hanging

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Speaker 1: with us. Tonight. We're back to a regular schedule. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be posting these clips tomorrow and then full show

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Speaker 1: like normal on Thursday, counterpoints on Friday. Love y'all, see

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Speaker 1: you see Love you guys. Stop st