1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. I'm Joe 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and we are here today with the 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor himself, Mel Owens. Mel, welcome to the podcast. 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. How you doing, I'm doing great? 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: Thank you. 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: How do you feel You're you finished filming? Correct? 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: Yes, we finished a couple of weeks ago. 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: How do you feel? 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: Feel good? Feel very good? 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, good. I love to hear it. Let's 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: let's start from the beginning. How did this come about? Like, 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: how did you even get approached to do it? 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: Oh? It was sort of fortuitous. One of my friends. 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: Introduced me to some casting people, and then one thing 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: led to another and I was interviewed and then casted thereafter. 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 4: Okay, nice and going into it. Had you ever watched 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 4: the show? How familiar were you with the Bachelor franchise? 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: I had. 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: I think it started in two thousand and two or thereabouts, 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: so I had watched it from that point going forward 21 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: for about maybe two three years. Then I had my 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 3: boys and then I didn't have as much time to watch, 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: but I was in and out of the Bachelor broadcast 24 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 3: from time to time, so I knew about you know 25 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: how it worked and some of the people. But I 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: didn't really follow it that closely because I had my 27 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: kids and I was, you know, they're playing and doing 28 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: other things. So I mean, I know about it, of course, 29 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: and I was a fan. I've always been a fan, 30 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: but not like a ardent fan like I was at 31 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: the beginning and then at the end. I again, it's 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: like it's like football, if it's on, you're gonna watch it, 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: you know, if I you know, But I wasn't someone 34 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: who watched it all the time because I just was 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: doing other things. 36 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: But I liked it and I understood the sort of 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: the format. 38 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: But I had not seen The Golden Bachelor other than 39 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: the first opening scene and then that's you know, when 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: they come out of limousines, And that's the only part 41 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: I saw about The Golden Bachelor. 42 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: I didn't know how it ended. I didn't know anything 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: about it. 44 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: I didn't know the people, but obviously I'm familiar with 45 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: The Bachelor. 46 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: Going back to that time when you first watched the show, 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: do you remember how you felt watching it. Did you 48 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: think it was fake? 49 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: Did you think it did you. 50 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: Watch it thinking like, no way someone could actually fall 51 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: in love on this show. 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: No, I thought it was a very fascinating idea. 53 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: Okay, I was probably forty years old, you know, right 54 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: around forty. I thought it was fascinating. 55 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: It was great. 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: I was in to it, yeah, you know, I was. 57 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: I was a lawyer and Stout Law Firm. People were 58 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 3: always you know, talking about it, and this was the 59 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: first few years and it was intriguing. They had, you know, great, 60 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: great people on it. 61 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: You know, it was fascinating. 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: How long did you play in the NFL? 63 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: I topped to bottom eleven years. I was credited for ten, 64 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: but in the eleventh year I left. 65 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: And you're a lawyer as well, how do you have 66 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: How did you have time for that? 67 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: I did afterwards? 68 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: Okay, wow. 69 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: So after after I played, I worked in the financial 70 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: industry for a while and then after that I went. 71 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: To law school. 72 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: How did you make that decision? 73 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: Well, I got very smart friends, and I called up 74 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: my agent, who's my who was my lawyer at the time, 75 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: and I was going over some of the things I 76 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: wanted to do afterwards, and he. 77 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: Suggested I go to law school. 78 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: And I took his advice because he had represented me 79 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: the entire time, and he still represents me today and 80 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: a smart guy and he's hit. 81 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: On all cylinders all the time. So I just followed 82 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: his advice. It's real simple. 83 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 4: And why right, you're done. Now you're going to law school. 84 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: And you're like, okay, sounds good. 85 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, And it was a great decision, 86 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: you know. 87 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: And again I had great advice, So I just followed 88 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: the advice and it was it was, it was a 89 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: good decision. 90 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 1: Do you think there's more opportunities now for players leaving 91 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 1: the NFL than there was during your time? 92 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because the media is different. Yeah. 93 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: Now, when I came in in nineteen eighty one, you know, 94 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: there was no free agency, so with whatever team you 95 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: were on, you were on and you were there basically forever. Now, 96 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 3: thank god I was with the Los Angeles Rams because 97 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: that was my favorite team as a kid. Okay, so 98 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: you know, and I'm from Detroit at the time, and 99 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: for a long time, the Lions were no good. 100 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: So I'm not really alive. 101 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: Wait so wait, you grew up in Detroit, but you 102 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: were a Lions fan, I mean, not Rams fan. 103 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: Yes. Wow. 104 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: My favorite player was Deacon Jones. You know, he's a 105 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: great Ram player, and but you know. What I liked 106 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: was the Rams always came in on it in the afternoon, 107 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: right because they had the first game was like, you know, 108 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: during the East Coast. Second game was West Coast, so 109 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 3: we'd watched the West Coast game. It'd be green and 110 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 3: palm trees. And then the Rams had all the players. 111 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: There was a glamour team, and I just fell in 112 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: love with the Rams. They're my favorite team. And I 113 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: played Pop Warner for the West Side Cubs, and I 114 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: just loved the Rams. I loved Deacon Jones, so then 115 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: I got drafted by him, you know, many years later, 116 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 3: and and there was you know, dream come true. So 117 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: I was playing with the Rams and nineteen eighty one 118 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: and there was no free agency, so there, you know, 119 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 3: there's our trinities, don't get me wrong, but not like 120 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 3: there is today with all the social media and the 121 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: streaming and the Internet and all the other outlets you 122 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: can go. And then eighty seven, eighty two there was 123 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: a strike. Eighty seven, there's a strike. Ninety two I 124 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: believe was the time where they resolved a lawsuit. And 125 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: then that was the first time a billion dollar TV 126 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: contract was in place with free agency, and then everything 127 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: blew up from that point. 128 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: Got it interesting? And then you do you currently live 129 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. 130 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: Now I live in Orange County, Okay, Okay. 131 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: And what do your how many kids do you have? 132 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: I have two boys? 133 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: Two boys. How old are they? 134 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: Eighteen and twenty? 135 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: What do they think about their father being the Golden Bachelor? 136 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: Well, you know they you know, at the time, they're teenagers. Yeah, 137 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: and teenagers are teenagers. And they were just you know, like, 138 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: you know, do it, don't do it? 139 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: What is it? 140 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 3: You know, they were they knew about the Bachelor, but 141 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: they weren't really invested. 142 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, my my. 143 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: Younger son, we were actually watching the Grant season just 144 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: by it happen chance, right, This was before I was 145 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: even casted. I wasn't even contacted. We're just watching it. 146 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: I came on and I sort of got it, like 147 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: maybe in the second week of the programming, and so 148 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: he was watching it with me, and so this was 149 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: first time he watched it. 150 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: And you know, obviously I knew about it. 151 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: So when I'm telling him how it works and he's 152 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: watching it, then the advertisement came on for the Golden Bachelor, and. 153 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: So, oh, dad, you should do that? 154 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: You know, and I just well, I didn't give any 155 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: any thought, right, we're just watching it, and then I didn't. 156 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: I got hooked on their grant season, so I recorded it, 157 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: you know, going forward, so like week two to week 158 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: whenever I recorded the series. Then it came on again 159 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: and my son was there. He goes, oh, Dad, you look, 160 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: you're lucky man. He goes, it's not again, you're watching it. 161 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: He didn't know if recording it right, so he got hooked. 162 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: On it too. 163 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: So then he's watching the women and then he started, 164 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: you know, you know, picking like, oh did you keep. 165 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: Keep hit her? And you know, let her go? And 166 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: how come he's doing this? 167 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: So he got into it right, And then we followed 168 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: it to the end, and you know, we saw the 169 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: final episodes, so then we then the Golden Bacheler opportunity came, 170 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: so he was more into it. 171 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: The older one hadn't. 172 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 3: Been exposed to it, so but you know, they got 173 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 3: they got more and more into it as you know, 174 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: I started talking to him about it, so they finally 175 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: they finally came around. 176 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 4: Well, and if there's ever a time to get into it, 177 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 4: it's when your dad's the bachelor. This is the perfect. 178 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, they you know, they were once 179 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 3: they realized that, you know, I had a chance, then 180 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: they were in on it, right. But they're a little 181 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: they're a little hesitant about getting filmed and all of that. 182 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, they came around, you know, after I explained 183 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 3: to them, and then you know, they're sort of slowly 184 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: you know, shown how the show works. And then they 185 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: came around. 186 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: And you you're divorced, correct, Yes, do you still talk 187 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: to your ex wife? 188 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: Not really? Okay? 189 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: Do you have any idea how she feels about you 190 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: being the Golden Bachelor? 191 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: Not really? Okay. 192 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 4: You're an ex football player, so you obviously had all 193 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 4: of your techniques for preparing for a game. How did 194 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 4: you prepare to go film your season of The Bachelor? 195 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: Well, no matter what you do in any business, you 196 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: have to have focus, right, and you gotta. You should 197 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: you should study and know what it's about, especially if 198 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: something like the the the the Bachelors. 199 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: It's a long running show, so you should. You should 200 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: be able to, you. 201 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: Know, look back on some of the episodes and find out, 202 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: you know, what happened, because I hadn't seen it for 203 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: a long time. Other than the Grant season. And I 204 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: hadn't seen really the Golden Bachelor, But you know, it's 205 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: you don't really know about this that they can tell 206 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: you about it until you're in it, and then when 207 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: you're in it, it's just completely different than what you 208 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: thought it was. But you know, you have to have stamina, energy, focus, 209 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: and those are all the things you have to. 210 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: Do when you're in business, no matter what business you're in. 211 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: So it wasn't I did I did anything new, but 212 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 3: I just focused more and I just you know, and 213 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: I knew I was going to go away for like, 214 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: you know, two months and got my mindset ready from 215 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 3: that standpoint. 216 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 4: Did you get any advice from anyone from the Bachelor 217 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 4: franchise that had done it before? Before, during or after five? 218 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 2: Jesse Palmer. 219 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: Jesse gave me advice because he had you know, obviously 220 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: he's the host, so he sees everything. And then when 221 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 3: he was you know, younger, he was the bass or 222 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,359 Speaker 3: so you know, he was you know, and he played football. 223 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: Too, played in the NFL. 224 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so and you know obviously played college and 225 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: he played pro. So we have a lot of things 226 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 3: in common. He actually is married to a Brazilian gal too. 227 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: My wife Brazil was Brazilian, so there's a lot of similarities. 228 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 4: That I was all, ears, Yeah, he's kind of the 229 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 4: best person to give you advice. 230 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: What did he Yeah, what was this advice? 231 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: You know, just you know, just like I told you, 232 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: you know, stay focused and you know, and you know, 233 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: know what's going on around you, and you know, and 234 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: he's in production too, right, so he's he knows all 235 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: about the way it's produced. 236 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: And he also does football. 237 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: He broadcasts football games in the Food Network, so he 238 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: has a lot of experience. 239 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: In front of it and behind it. 240 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 3: So just just to be aware of things and you know, 241 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: and just you advice along the way. And plus he 242 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: was on set a lot, so I got to talk 243 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 3: to him and you know, my dinner and breakfast with 244 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 3: him a lot. 245 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 2: Nice. 246 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: Nice What were you most excited for and what were 247 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 4: you most nervous for going into the season, I, you know. 248 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: Just anticipation because I didn't know what to expect other 249 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 3: than I know that it was going to be a 250 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: first rate, great run production, which they all are, and 251 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: I knew they're going to have the you know, you know, 252 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: beautiful women and and you know, sophisticated women and you know, 253 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: their their profile, they try to match up with your profile. 254 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: So I knew all of that going in. It was 255 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: going to be great. 256 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't think anything other than it was 257 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 3: just going to be a great experience. 258 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: What was dating like before this for you? 259 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: I really didn't date before because I had my boys 260 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: growing up, right, and my boys were with me the 261 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: majority of the time, So I had them, and you know, 262 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: all my energy was with them. So maybe a handful 263 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: of dates here and there, but nothing serious, nothing long term. 264 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 2: Nothing. 265 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk women, mel. What is your type? 266 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: Well, I said it before. 267 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: You know, you know someone who has energy, you know, 268 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: great personality, active, adventurous, lifetime learner. But you know, energy 269 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: is a big deal. 270 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 4: Like blondes burnette. 271 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: That doesn't matter. That doesn't matter, No, there's that doesn't matter. 272 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: What do you do do you? Are you active? Do 273 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: you go to the gym a lot? Any sports? 274 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: Now? 275 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: I other than just dominating my kids like in ping 276 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 3: pong and in basketball, But I don't I don't play sports. 277 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: I work out obviously to stay in shape, but I 278 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: don't play you know, just like basketball, a little bit 279 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: ping pong bowl, you know, but no golf, nothing like that. 280 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: Do you miss football? 281 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: What's that? 282 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 4: Do you miss football? 283 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: No, that's so funny. 284 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 4: I feel like all professional athletes say that, like they don't. 285 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 4: They don't. Usually they're usually no, I'm good, like I 286 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: had my time. 287 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm good. 288 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: Those were my words. Good, I had my time. I 289 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: played twenty six straight years of football. I love football. 290 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: I love sports. My boys play baseball, They're going to 291 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: play baseball in college. I'm all about college sports, high 292 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: school sports, because I was coaching at the high school 293 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: for a number of years football, so I like to 294 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: be around the sport. 295 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: I like, you know, coaching, you know, young young people. 296 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: And sharing knowledge, but you know, playing wise, No, you know, no, 297 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: I had my time. 298 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: Okay, let's go take us to night one. You're standing 299 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: there waiting for the women to step out of the limo. 300 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: What's going going through your hat at that point? 301 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: Just I'm just nervous, man, Just nervous, just you know, anticipation, nerves, excitement. 302 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, just But it was a wonderful feeling though. 303 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 3: It really was, because you know, there's a lot of 304 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: bleeding up to it, a lot of people telling you, 305 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: you know, not so much what to expect, but like production. 306 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: You know, you're standing here, they're gonna come here. This 307 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: is what's gonna happen. 308 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: And basically it's flawless, as you guys know, except for 309 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: there are a few glitches here and there, but they 310 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 3: just smooth right over them. But mainly it was just nervousness, 311 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 3: and you know, it was good nerves because you know, 312 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: I played football. You know, I'm an attorney before cases 313 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: before games. 314 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: If you're not nervous, then you're not excited. 315 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're not. You know, you're not excited. You're 316 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: not nervous, so it can't be manufactured. So you know, 317 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: the nerves are real, but they're good nerves, and I 318 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: just enjoyed it. 319 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: Night one is Joe and I is one of our 320 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: favorite episodes because, yeah, there's so much emotion, it's so intense, 321 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: but having been there, it is such a well oiled machine, 322 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 4: like they have Night One down to a science, so 323 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 4: you really just kind of get to like you're just 324 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: flowing through the motions of where they're telling you to go. 325 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: To greats experiences I've ever had in my life that 326 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: those three four hours, because it takes a little while, 327 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: you know, to get them all through the you know, 328 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: the introductions, just it's just something that to experience is 329 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: just it is unreal, It really is it. 330 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: It was a It was a really good experience. 331 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: For for these women. What what could they if, let's 332 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: say someone you end up with someone, what could she 333 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: expect with a life with you after the show? 334 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a nice sky. You know, You're gonna 335 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: have a lot of fun with me. 336 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: I'm interested in them and but what they do, because 337 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 3: it's got to be a two way street. I'm choosing them, 338 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 3: but they're also choosing me, and there's gonna be a 339 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: lot of similarities. But also I want to learn from 340 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 3: them as well, because that's why you know, we're together, 341 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: and it just can't be one sided either way. So 342 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: I think for me, they're gonna they're gonna get someone 343 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: who's excited, you know, to live, to live life in 344 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 3: and to keep learning and have personal growth. 345 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 4: Are you still working? Are you retired? 346 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: I'm still working. 347 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: Is traveling back and forth or potentially moving cities something 348 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: that you would consider. 349 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, anything's possible. It just depends on the circumstance. 350 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 3: And you know, where I live and then where she lives. 351 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 3: But you never know, and you know, I talked to 352 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: Chalk I think his name is Chalk from the first 353 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: of the first Bacheorette, Golden Bachshorette. And they live apart, right, 354 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: I mean I think they're engaged, but they live apart 355 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 3: and they travel. 356 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 2: So you know, if you want to happen, it can happen. Yeah. 357 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: On the first night of the Bachelor, there is the 358 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 4: first impression. Rose, What were you keeping an eye out 359 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 4: for when you're looking for someone that makes a good 360 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 4: first impression? 361 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 3: Well, just that the impression, right, what really hits you, 362 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 3: you know hard, and that you can say, wow, that 363 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: was something that was something different, that was that was 364 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: really a different experience, and that one made an impression 365 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: on me obviously. So I really wasn't looking for the 366 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: first impression other than feeling it. 367 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: And then when you feel it, you go, oh, that's 368 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: the person. 369 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: And look, they all were impressive, right, and they all 370 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: had great stories and very sophisticated and accomplished. So it's 371 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: hard to say that's the one, except for on that 372 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: night that was the one. 373 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: And so. 374 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: It's a special you know, feeling, and that's why the 375 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 3: person gets the first impression. 376 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: Rows. 377 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 4: Of course it's going to be twenty something amazing women, 378 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 4: but you're not. You're hopefully not going to fall in 379 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 4: love with all of them. 380 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you probably probably could, but to what 381 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: extent because you know they're all amazing, but you know, 382 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 3: there's different personalities, and they come from different parts of 383 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 3: the country, and they have different backgrounds, and you know, 384 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 3: you're looking for someone that matches with you, and you know, 385 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 3: sometimes it does, and you know, sometimes maybe eight out 386 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 3: of ten do and you know, things match, and then 387 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: only two out of three over here. But you know, 388 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: and maybe the thing that you like the most, maybe 389 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: maybe their sense of humor that you're attracted to most. 390 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: What ended up being an unexpected challenge for you as 391 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: the lead, well. 392 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: You know, the the not not the timing, but the scheduling, right, 393 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 3: and and I'm fine with all of it. But and 394 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 3: I was ready for whatever happened because I'm I'm coachable. 395 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: You know, I've been you know, through a lot of 396 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: you know a lot of things that are on time, 397 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 3: you know, scheduling, but you know you have to be 398 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 3: amenable to changes and be able to pivot, you know 399 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: when you have to. It wasn't that big of a 400 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 3: challenge but it was something that you know, you know, 401 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 3: I had to get used to because things change, weather changes, 402 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: you know, people change, you know, schedules change equipment. 403 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: So you know, it was. 404 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 3: Something that that was a little bit out of the 405 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 3: ordinary for my day to day as I was doing it, 406 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 3: you know, prior to this. 407 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: Something that we see a lot of the leads that 408 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 4: come on this podcast expressed that they have difficulty with 409 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 4: is the eliminations sending people home that they obviously have 410 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 4: grown to care about and kind of breaking their heart 411 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 4: a little bit. How was that for you? 412 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 2: Same way? 413 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: I mean, you just don't want to do it right 414 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: because you know how much time and energy they've invested 415 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: into you know, the process, into the journey, and obviously 416 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 3: as it gets you know, deeper into the season, into 417 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: the show, it becomes more difficult. Do you spend more 418 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: time with them and you get to know them and 419 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: there's no rhyme or reason really that you're you know, 420 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: letting people go other than that's just the way the 421 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: show is set up, you know. 422 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: I you know, I said, if I had. 423 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: Met you know, the women individually, it would be yes 424 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 3: to all of them individually. 425 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: But that's not how it works. 426 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: It's you know, there's like twenty three or twenty five, 427 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 3: you know on a show, and you're getting down to one. 428 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 3: So the way the show works and the way the 429 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 3: journey is that people are going to be let go. 430 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 3: But it's painful, nonetheless, because you get to know these 431 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 3: people and they don't deserve to let go other than 432 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: that's the way the show works. 433 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 2: But it does hurt your heart letting them go. 434 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's not easy breaking hearts. Do you remember 435 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: when was the last time that you could remember that 436 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: you started falling for a woman? 437 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 2: Well, my wife, Okay, you know, I was, you know, 438 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: twenty five years ago whenever it was, And that was 439 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: twenty five years ago, So that was the time. 440 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: And did you ever expect to feel those feelings again? 441 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 3: No, because I thought I was going married forever. Know, 442 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 3: you know, twenty five years is a long time. Yeah, 443 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 3: and I'm not expecting anything different. So I'm not thinking like, oh, 444 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: I'm falling in love and then I'm you know, in 445 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: my head, I'm thinking about falling in love again. 446 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: No, because I'm married. 447 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: Is that your goal going on as the Golden Bachelor? 448 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 4: You want to find someone to spread the rest of 449 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 4: your life. 450 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: With Well, yeah, I was open to find someone who 451 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: I could share my life with. 452 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: And you don't know until you're on. 453 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 3: The show and you're meeting and speaking with and spending 454 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: time with the women. But that's the ultimate goal, and 455 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: and you have to tune in to find out. 456 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 4: Did did your boys give you any advice when you 457 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 4: went on the show? 458 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly, you know, any. 459 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: Strict advice they gave me other than just have fun, 460 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 3: right and be yourself because I'm gonna be myself no 461 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: matter what. You know, I'm not gonna be someone that 462 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: I'm not because I can't be. But they weren't giving 463 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: me any advice other than just be myself. And you know, 464 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 3: they know me, they know that i'd be myself. 465 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: Was there anything they're like, just please, you know, don't 466 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: do this like anything like that. 467 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 3: No, because you know, the thing is they hadn't watched 468 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: the show, so they weren't real familiar with all the 469 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 3: ins and outs and ups and downs of the show 470 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 3: and what really happens. Because the older one, I don't 471 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: think I ever watched it, but that I know if 472 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: you might have watched it on his phone, and the 473 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 3: younger one just watched it, you know, maybe five weeks 474 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 3: with me or four weeks with me, and he was 475 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 3: sort of like in and out to watch it for 476 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: a little bit, and then he'd leave and then oh, 477 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: that girl's still there or why should you get rid of? 478 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: Why to get rid of her? Right? 479 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: So he like, you know, they're not invested in the franchise, 480 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: so they didn't know how it works, so they didn't 481 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: you know, they didn't have any any advice like, hey, 482 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: don't do this and don't do that because of something 483 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: they saw before. 484 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: So not really did you at all during during your 485 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: time as the lead ever think what it would be 486 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: like to be on the opposite end of that, because 487 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: like usually you know, with Golden it's it's been a 488 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: little different where the leads, most of them besides Joan, well, 489 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: the two Bachelor leads never experienced being on the show. 490 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: Did you did you think about that at all? Is 491 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: that something across I. 492 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: Tried to put myself in there in their place when 493 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: when I was you know, talking to them and how 494 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: how it must have been for them, and you know, 495 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: to put themselves out there and also remember you're competing 496 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 3: more or less with you know, other women and you're 497 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: also the living you're living with them also, so you 498 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: have all those other sort of personality things going on 499 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 3: inside the mansion. So I tried to put myself in 500 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 3: their shoes, you know, when I was talking to them 501 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 3: and they were relating to me, how you know how 502 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: difficult it was because they also were never in that 503 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: situation either. But you know, I was on the other side, 504 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: and I go, I know how much how difficult it 505 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 3: must be to be in their chair going through these experiences, 506 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 3: you know, with other women as well. So to answer 507 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: your question, yes, to an extent. 508 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 4: Nice Bachelor is known for their iconic dates. They do, 509 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 4: you know, helicopters and the yachts and all the exciting travel. 510 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 4: Was there anywhere that you were hoping to get to 511 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 4: travel to, or any type of date that you were 512 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 4: hoping to get to go on. 513 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: Well, they had called me and asked me what things I, 514 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 3: you know, liked to do and and things like that sort, 515 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 3: and I just told them, but they do such a 516 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 3: great job. I didn't want to mess it up, all right, 517 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 3: Just you guys, just do your professional job. 518 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: And I was going to be great. 519 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: And they're all great, They're all amazing experiences. 520 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: Right, just just wonderful. 521 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: So I'm glad I didn't offer up anything that would 522 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: screw it up and they did a great job. 523 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah I would. Yeah, that's what they're they're good at, 524 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, like. 525 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 2: That's that's amazing, that's their area. 526 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: They don't they don't need a lead to come in 527 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 1: and be like because that's what I would do if 528 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: I was like, we're gonna change his whole fucking shroll 529 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: around now, and then they'd be like, it's canceled. 530 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 531 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: The thing is, you know, I'm I'm just smart enough 532 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 3: to know don't mess the program up. 533 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because you know when when when I went 534 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: to the. 535 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: University of Michigan, you know, I was seventeen years old 536 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: and I got there, and then you have all these 537 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 3: ideas and you go, no, it's been around for a 538 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 3: long time. 539 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: I go, I'm gonna follow the program. 540 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 3: If I if I just follow the program, it's gonna 541 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: be great. 542 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna follow the program. And it was great. 543 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: I like that. 544 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: Last, but not least, what advice would you give to 545 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: any future Golden Bachelor's you. 546 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 3: Know, just the advice that everybody gave me, because you know, 547 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: you know, even the people who are in production, the 548 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 3: producers and the people that were there and you know, 549 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 3: you know, Jesse, they can give you all the advice 550 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 3: you know and tell you how it's going to be, 551 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 3: but you just don't know until you're in it. And 552 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 3: when you're in it, I mean it's it's fast and 553 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: furious and it's condensed like you're like from really for 554 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: like two months, you're just like putting it together. Patience 555 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: is what you need, right and just patience. It's going 556 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 3: to be good. Let it happen, you know, open mind, 557 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 3: open heart. 558 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 4: Are you doing anything fun for the premiere? It's right 559 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 4: around the corner. Give any plans. 560 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: Actually be in New York because they've got the things 561 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 3: planned for me. And again, I'm just following along the program, right, 562 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna try to do anything different. I'm just 563 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: gonna go with it. So yeah, I'm not I'm not planning. 564 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: I'm not planning anything. They're they're planning nice. 565 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: Well, mel I am really looking forward to watching your season. 566 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: And it was it's gonna be good man. 567 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: Great meeting you for the time. 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