1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: I've always tried to just be authentic. If you don't 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: like it, the same with my music. If you don't 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: like it, it's not for you. I get it. That's fine. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Not everyone has to. 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: I'm Buzzsnight and welcome to the Take in a Walk Podcast. Now, today, 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: we're going to be strolling with someone who's been making 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: serious waves in the music scene while navigating one of 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: the most high octane family dynamics you can imagine. Her 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: name is Chloe Stroll. She's a singer songwriter, turning heads 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: with her dreamy pop sound, brutally honest lyrics about love, identity, 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: and finding yourself. Oh yes, and she's Lance Stroll's sister. 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: But trust me, five minutes into this interview, you're going 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 2: to understand why Chloe's story is entirely her own. We'll 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: be talking about her newest music, the creative process, and then, 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: of course, what it's like to build an artistic career 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: when your family's name happens to be plastered on race 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: cars Chloe's Stroll. Next, I'm taking a walk, Taking a Walk, 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: Chloe Stroll. Welcome to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for having me. 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: I could rename it Taking a Stroll. 21 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: You would be surprised, But I've heard that joke before. 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: I know I wouldn't be surprised. Are you going to 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: think do you think less of me? Thirty seconds into 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: the interview. 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: Already not at all, not at all. 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 2: So, since we call this a podcast taking a walk, 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: I want to ask you our proverbial opening question, Chloe Stroll, 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 2: if you could take a walk with somebody living or dead, 29 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: who would you take a walk with? And where would 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: you take that walk? 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: Ooh, oh my god, who would I take a walk with. 32 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I'd want to take a walk with 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: Adele because I feel her banter let alone to ask 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: her questions about music. Firstly, but I think that her 35 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: banter would just be on point. And I love someone 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: with a very good sense of humor. 37 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: I'm told she's rather salty in her language too. 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: I've not heard that, but considering the UK dry humor, 39 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me. 40 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: It wouldn't put you off right. You would still get 41 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: to the root of musician to musician understanding what is 42 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: really going on there. Talk to me about the earliest 43 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: influences that you had that shaped you musically. 44 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: The earliest influences for me were probably A big one 45 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: was Kelly Clarkson, a big one with Celine Dion, Whitney Houston. 46 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: I think that for me it was really the women 47 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: who had this big voice, who just belted these notes 48 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: that seemed so out of this world impossible. I really 49 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: that is what I wanted to do that. 50 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 2: I'd say, you've done that. I loved the performance on 51 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: the Kelly Clarkson Show that was so outstanding. Congratulations on 52 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: Bloom and the break as well. 53 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. 54 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 55 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very surreal. 56 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: I have to say, Yeah, had you run into her 57 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: before or was that the first time? 58 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: No, I didn't meet her. It was the first time. 59 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: And I think it was such a huge full circle 60 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: moment for me where I grew up really singing at 61 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, my parents' dinner parties and friends' houses and 62 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: things like that, and I would always sing Breakaway. That 63 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: was my go to song. And so when I had 64 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: heard that she wanted me to perform on the show, 65 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: it was so this full sent for my younger self 66 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: and for me as an artist to be like, wow, 67 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: she just said my name out loud, and she knows 68 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: who I am because she was such a pivotal part 69 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: of me learning my voice and learning to discover who 70 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: I was as an artist. 71 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: When you're in that moment, do you realize as you're 72 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: in that moment, how I was standing that moment? Really is. 73 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: Definitely I try my best to be in that moment 74 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: when I'm there, but if I go too far in it, 75 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: I get really nervous. I'm a very nervous person. So 76 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: there has to be a way where you are so 77 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: grateful to be there, but also keep yourself in control. 78 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: So I tried my best, but yes, I definitely was like, 79 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: pinch yourself, look at where you are. 80 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: This is incredible. 81 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: I mean, there are so many times in life that 82 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 2: we oh my god, that was an unbelievable moment. I 83 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: didn't realize at that moment how special that moment was 84 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: and all of that. So that's really why I asked it. 85 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: And it is a bit unfair because as you're trying 86 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: to manage the situation, you've got to be very focused 87 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: in one way thinking and I definitely understand that for sure. 88 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,559 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the song I Stood My Ground. What's 89 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: the story behind that? Walk me through the moment? You 90 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: knew that that song had to be put out and created. 91 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: You know, I think that I wrote that song in 92 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: a funny place in my life. I was six and 93 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: a half months pregnant and I was in a writing session, 94 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: and it was probably one of the things that I 95 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: really wanted to say on the album, but I didn't 96 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: know how I wanted to approach it yet. And I 97 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: think that all of us in life have had moments 98 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: where you come to a place where your values are 99 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: put into question. You have there's a fork in the 100 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: road and you have to pick left or right to 101 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: keep moving forward, and not everybody will agree with every 102 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: choice that you make. And I think that there's a 103 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: very scary moment, and it's a part of growing up, 104 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: a part of becoming an adult that I definitely had 105 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 1: different ones in my life where I was like, Okay, 106 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: what do I do? Where do I stand if? And 107 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think that it's the scariest bit is 108 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: when you have people that you've maybe trusted for a 109 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: long time who no longer feel the same way that 110 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: you do, and you are forced to stand your ground. 111 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: And that's how the song came up. It was really 112 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: just kind of walking through those moments of whether they're 113 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: big or small. It could be, you know, the insecure 114 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: teenage years that I had, or that you know, I'm 115 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: sure all of us have gone through versus different things 116 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: adulthood has thrown at me. I think that it's really 117 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: important to have your values and the for them to 118 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: guide you through your life. And so I think that 119 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: that was really when I Stood my Ground was born. 120 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: It was I want to convey this message that your 121 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: values are what you have, stands your ground for those. 122 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: And similar path of creativity for the song You're Okay. 123 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: Similar ish, I think You're Okay. Similar in that I 124 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: always try and pick a theme or an experience that 125 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: I've lived through that I feel others have shared so 126 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: similar in that respect. But You're Okay and I Stood 127 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: My Ground are very different songs, very different emotions. You know, 128 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: You're Okay was really about the death of my grandmother 129 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: and I zoned in on her and unfortunately, you know, 130 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: I think that loss is something that everyone experiences somehow, 131 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: and my grandma was the one that I connected with 132 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: for this song. But I think that if you're able, 133 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: I get it. Like my childhood dog died and I 134 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: cried for four days, and I've had unfortunately lost in 135 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: my life. So I think that I didn't want to 136 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: narrow it too much that you didn't relate to it 137 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: if you had never lost a grandmother. But I wanted 138 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: it to evoke that same emotion, and that's where they're 139 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: the same. I never like to pinpoint it so much 140 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: that you have to do the exact thing I did 141 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: to feel that emotion. 142 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: Is there somebody you're listening to now that maybe has 143 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: even a minor influence in this incredibly cool, dreamy atmosphere 144 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: quality that your music has. 145 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 3: Am I listening to right now? 146 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: You know? It's funny. I think that a lot people 147 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: have asked me, But when you're in the middle of 148 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: making an album and it's your music, the music that 149 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: you're listening to is yours on repeat because you're like, 150 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm I am at heart of perfectionists, and I'm like, 151 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: change this note, do this. So when I emerged from 152 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: my album, there was a lot of new music out 153 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: and it's been very cool. And I think that if 154 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: I were to really pinpoint someone who I think is 155 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: trying to do something similar and maybe not the same sound, 156 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: but that modern, timeless approach, would be Alex Warren I 157 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: think that he's got that kind of ballady but modern, 158 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: that timeless music. 159 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: Going take our audience inside a typical writing session for you. 160 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: Are you a lyrics first person or does the melody 161 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: come to you first or does it really depend on 162 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: the song. 163 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm a lyrics first person. I think it does depend 164 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: on the song. Where I've been in situations that I've 165 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: played a couple chords and been like, wow, that sounds nice, 166 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: like what feelings does it evoke? And then I'll look 167 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: back and whether I've written lyrics that I'm trying to 168 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: match up with something or I'm just like, no, this 169 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: is the feeling. But typically I'm a lyrics first person. 170 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: Can you take us inside your feelings on some of 171 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 2: the other songs that you're particularly proud of? I'm sure 172 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: all of them, but maybe highlight a couple of more 173 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: off of Blooming The Break that you really would like 174 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: to share? 175 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: A Lot to Give and Prisoner were probably two that 176 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: I was really I'm loving the dark. Those three I 177 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: had written so long ago. I had really kept them 178 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: for a moment to be like, Okay, they have to 179 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: be perfect, and they're very dear to me because I 180 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: think the way that they're interpreted is different than the 181 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: reason that I wrote them. And I think that A Lot, 182 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: specifically A Lot to Give and Prisoner. You know, Prisoner 183 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: is about for me, it's about anxiety. It was about 184 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: the fact that I was, you know, I experienced a 185 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: lot of it over my life and I was really 186 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: held prisoner to it and it bothered me a lot. 187 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: And I think that being able to personify is that 188 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: that's a word, right, yeah, there you go. It's something 189 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: like that, but making it come to life. I think 190 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: that people it's something that they wouldn't know, and it 191 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: was something I was very proud of the way that 192 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: I wrote it. And it was similar with a Lot 193 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: to Give, you know, I think that it tells a 194 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: story of just something that you wouldn't realize. And when 195 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: you listen to the lyrics really intently, you're actually talking 196 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: about yourself and you're saying, I'm the one who has 197 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: a lot to give. I'm the one where the whole 198 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: song that's not all the perception it gives until the end. 199 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: And so I think those were two songs, and I 200 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: loop Love in the Dark in there because I wrote 201 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: them around the same time and I kept them for 202 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: three years. I didn't produce them, I didn't do anything 203 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: with them, and I was like, I really want to 204 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: be to make sure that the music really connects with 205 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: these lyrics. And they were the hardest to produce on 206 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: the album for sure. 207 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: Masterful storytelling from you, Chloe, who influence taught you the 208 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: artist storytelling? 209 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I don't think anyone really taught me. 210 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: The best credit I can give is to my books. 211 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: I love Disney and fantasy and romanticy and I grew 212 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: up I mean, like most people in my time, we 213 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: grew up reading Harry Potter and all of that. But 214 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: I was hooked to any story that had to do. 215 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, it was about Disney and 216 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: princesses and romantic fairy tales and all of that. And 217 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: as I grew up it turned into the Judy Bloom 218 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: books and from the Harry Potters, and you know, there 219 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: was so many stories, and I would lose myself in 220 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: this creative literature, in this world, and I loved telling stories. 221 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: Literature was my favorite class in English growing up, and 222 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: I think that that is how I and I love 223 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: to write anything. I could write stories, poems, So I 224 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: think through that. I just loved storytelling. 225 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 4: We'll be right back with more of the Taken a 226 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: Walk Podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 227 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 2: Is there a song ever in your career or your 228 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: life that you've written that you felt it was two 229 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: personal to release or to share or is it one 230 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: that surprised you about how people connected in particular with it. 231 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: There's definitely been songs that I've written that I've been like, Wow, 232 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: should we release this or not? Because they're either very personal. 233 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: But I think that as time went on, I realized 234 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: that I was like, it's if someone can connect with 235 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: that and it can help make their day better or 236 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: make them feel like there's someone who understands them, you know, 237 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: there was no point in hiding that, so I did. 238 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: There's definitely a couple of songs that are out that 239 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: I've had a moment or two of pause before I've 240 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: released them because it is personal and it's vulnerable, and 241 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: it's scary to express yourself like that in such a 242 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: public way. So yeah, I mean, it's a yeah, there's 243 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: been a couple. 244 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: Your brother Lance is pretty vulnerable when he's racing cars. 245 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: How do you mirror that? Do you? Guys? Talk about 246 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: each other's careers. Do you keep this separate because that 247 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: is in that role only its own form of vulnerability 248 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: in the public manner. 249 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: You know, I think it's funny. I think if people 250 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: really looked under the hood of my relationship with Lens, 251 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: everyone would be like, oh, that's it, Like we're so 252 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: hilariously normal. 253 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: I liked that was good. 254 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're good. Thank you. You know, we talk 255 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: about our careers, we talk about life, we talk about 256 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: we're super close. It's not necessarily something that it's like, Okay, 257 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: let's talk about this now. It's he face times to 258 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: see my son and I FaceTime to be like what 259 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: country are you? And again, and we're very close. Everything 260 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: is very just easy and fun and yeah. 261 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: I was recently talking to the singer songwriter Maggie Rose, 262 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: who recently became a mom, and she talked about how 263 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: that sort of changed your view of of the world 264 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: and of her career and her writing. What has that 265 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: part of your life changed, if anything, in terms of 266 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: the creative process and the way you write and create. 267 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,239 Speaker 1: It's changed a lot. I think that becoming a mom 268 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: has changed my perspective in a lot of ways of life. 269 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: It's the best gift to be given and at the 270 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: same time, probably the most humbling thing to do, because 271 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: you're in charge of a life and you can think 272 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: that everyone's going to warn you and prepare you, but 273 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: no one does because it's really a I can tell 274 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: you this twenty times, but until you experience it, you 275 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: don't really understand what I'm saying. And you know, I 276 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: wrote probably my favorite song that I've ever written that 277 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: I've been really the most that gave me the biggest 278 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: emotional reaction was Home on the album Bloom in the Break. 279 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: But I would never have been able to write it 280 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: if I wasn't pregnant, if I didn't have that journey 281 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: coming for me, because that was the inspiration where it 282 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: came from. I see it today in my writing. I 283 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: see it in my even my voice has changed. I've 284 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: got physical changes that have happened to me as well 285 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: through that journey, but all for the better. And I 286 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: think that it's really cool to see what different things 287 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: come up for me where my inspirations go, what I 288 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: lean more towards since becoming a mom, and you don't 289 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: always expect it, so it's been really cool. 290 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 2: We are so Bravo artist. Independence on this show and 291 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: your independence in an industry that's constantly changing is really 292 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: something to marvel about. What has that a journey been like? 293 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: And I mean the highs and the lows of that. 294 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: It's been a whirlwind and her best way, I think, 295 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, I took a break for a really long 296 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: time when I was younger to go to college and 297 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: see if there was something else that I wanted to do. 298 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: And I'm glad that I did. I'm glad because it 299 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: reaffirmed how much I wanted to be in music. And 300 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: I think, like any career, I think the highs can 301 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: be very high, and I think that the lows can 302 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: be very low, and there's some things that you can't control. 303 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: Like for me, I'm a perfectionist, and I'm a perfectionist 304 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: with my voice And just what a week ago, I 305 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: was going to do a gig in New York and 306 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: I had lost my voice twenty four hours before, and 307 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't perform, I can't do it. 308 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: And I was so petrified of what I would sound like, 309 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: how other people would think. And in the end, you know, 310 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: you make it through. But the same with writing sessions, 311 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: putting your in studio for twelve hours and I could 312 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: be there for twenty four. I love it. But at 313 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: some point you're facing a writer's block and you want 314 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: to put you want to scrape your forehead because you're like, 315 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: why can't I just get past this? And of course 316 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: there's lower lows, and of course there's but it's I 317 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: think that's life. I think that's why when the great 318 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: moments come, you have to celebrate everything, and I do, 319 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: and I think that when the low moments come, you 320 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: have to remember that there's always a light at the 321 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: end of the tunnel, and it's up to you on 322 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: finding the strength to put one foot forward. 323 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: I'm guessing in my short time with you that the 324 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: ability to see things at certain times and have a 325 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: sense of humor about it also gets you through some 326 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 2: of those times as well. 327 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 5: Definitely, if you don't have a sense of humor, you 328 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 5: can't do anything. That's why I think a sense of 329 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 5: humor gets you through the lows and careers, the loads 330 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 5: in life, in marriage and friendships. I think that it's 331 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 5: I think that it's a necessity to have. 332 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: Do you remember the last time that you started laughing 333 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: and you laughed so hard? That you just started crying 334 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: with laughter, and if you could possibly remember that, could 335 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: you share what that was? 336 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: It was somewhat recently. I think I have a very 337 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: funny thing that when I get tired, I laugh uncontrollably. 338 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: And I had just come home to my husband and 339 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: my son, and I think he said something that was 340 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: not funny, like no one else was laughing, and I 341 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: just fell off my chair and just crying. And I 342 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: was exhausted and jet lagged and had just finished work 343 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: and he was working, and I think it just took 344 00:20:54,840 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: hold of me, which happens more often than not all 345 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: that entertaining. But yeah, that's my secret thing. I just 346 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: I lash uncontrollably when I'm tired. 347 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 2: It just happens. 348 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just happens. No one can and everyone knows. 349 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: They're like, ah, here she goes. 350 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: It's coming. It's just like with a sneezing fits sometimes, right. 351 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: Exactly, yeah, exactly. 352 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: You've been really open about mental health and self discovery. 353 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: We produce this other podcast which is called Music Save 354 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 2: Me that is about kind of the connection to music 355 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 2: from fans and the way artists talk about how music 356 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: is so helpful. I mean, do you find music having therapeutic. 357 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: Forces absolutely, and I there's a part of me that 358 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: hopes that, you know, bloom in the Break helps people 359 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: with that because I think that music, for me, at 360 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: least in those in my darkest moments, in the moments 361 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: where I thought that how do you get out of this? 362 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: Music's been there and I think that it's there through 363 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: the highest of moments as well. But that therapeutic element 364 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: that it has the notes, whether it's the note that 365 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: can just change your mind a little bit or trigger 366 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: something to be like, oh you know what, I'm I 367 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: can do this, or it's that one line in a 368 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: song that goes that you're like wow, that just resonated 369 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: with me, like I'm going to the chain, whatever it is. 370 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 1: I think that music to have that kind of power 371 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: is so incredible and it's astounding. So for sure, I 372 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: think music is extremely important in that role. 373 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: I think you'd agree that social media and streaming have 374 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: changed everything for artists. How do you balance staying true 375 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 2: to yourself and authentic with the pressure to constantly pre. 376 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: I think for me, I've always tried to just be authentic. 377 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: If you don't like it, the same with my music. 378 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: If you don't like it. It's not for you. I 379 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: get it. That's fine. Not everyone has to. But that's 380 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: kind of how I approach social media as well. If 381 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: you're not being you, if you're not being authentic, and 382 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that you have to share every single 383 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: thing about you, but I think people see that and 384 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: in today, in today's world, we want a connection with 385 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: someone else. And everyone that I've loved and admired, I've 386 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: noticed that they lay it out and it's like, this 387 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: is how it is, and take it or leave it. 388 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: This is me and I respect that so much, and 389 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: it's difficult. So that's kind of the way that I 390 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: approach social media is I'm myself, take it or leave it. 391 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: When you're not making music, what obviously, besides family, your son, 392 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: your husband, what fills your bucket when you're not making music, 393 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: and what helps you recharge. 394 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: I'm an avid reader. I love reading books in the 395 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: kind of fantasy, romanticy. I love being taken to a 396 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: totally different world and just living through that and forgetting, 397 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, everything else, and I think that emerging myself 398 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: and that helps me kind of recharge and put my 399 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: feet back on the ground and go okay, like you know, 400 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: you can. You got this. Now You've had your two 401 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: hours with your book, and now it's time to go back. 402 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: And I think for me that's really important. Where to 403 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: find your kind of happy placed Chloe? 404 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 2: Before we close, what is something you believed about yourself 405 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: five years ago that you've completely changed your mind. 406 00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: About something I believe about myself. But I've changed my 407 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: mind about that. 408 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't do this, Honestly, I think that five years ago, 409 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: maybe a little more maybe so, I think that there 410 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: was a part of me that always thought that this 411 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: would be a really amazing dream, and that going after 412 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: a passion like this in today's world would be a 413 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: bit of a you know, a bit of a fool's 414 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: errand for me and God, I'm so glad I proved 415 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: myself wrong. And I'm glad that I'm here. 416 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: I'm glad too, We're all glad. Glad we stroll. Thanks, 417 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: I'm glad you were, I'm glad you are on taking 418 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 2: a walk. I'm glad we spent some time. Congratulations on 419 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: bloom in the break and everything great going on, and 420 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 2: here's ten more of it. 421 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you for having me, Thanks 422 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: so much. 423 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 424 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 4: Walk podcast. Share this and other episodes with your friends 425 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: and follow us so you never miss an episode. 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