WEBVTT - The Future of Tattoos

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot Com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas. In

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<v Speaker 1>our last episode, the Science of Tattooing, The Sammy's the Tattoos,

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<v Speaker 1>we discussed the history of the culture of tattoos a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit kind of an overview, and then we broke

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<v Speaker 1>down the science of getting that that symbol, that name,

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<v Speaker 1>that deity, that dolphin put into your flesh in a

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<v Speaker 1>this semi permanent way. Indeed, and we even talked about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the more unusual tattooing practices, like having your

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<v Speaker 1>medical condition tattooed on you. Um. We didn't talk about

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<v Speaker 1>scleral tattooing. We did not, yeah, which is tattooing the

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<v Speaker 1>whites of your eyes. Yeah, which is doable, not necessarily advised,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is possible, just to show you just how

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<v Speaker 1>how extreme your tattooing can go. Uh And and indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>uh we also didn't get into some of the ways

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<v Speaker 1>that individuals augment their tattoos, uh, such as by adding

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<v Speaker 1>additional implants. We were looking at an example, uh of

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<v Speaker 1>an individual who gave breast implants to his tattoo back

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand seven. Um, yeah, on his on his

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<v Speaker 1>leg to be specific, mermaid. Yeah, yeah, or it was

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell when the picture was a mermaid or

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<v Speaker 1>possibly just a cowgirl. Can I see again? Oh, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>it as a cowgirl. I don't know why I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was a mermaid with like a cowboy hat. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there are a lot of mermaid tattoos, and

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<v Speaker 1>essentially it's a mermaid tattoo. It's very much in that

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<v Speaker 1>same genre. But yeah, he apparently decided it needs implants

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<v Speaker 1>and uh apparently there's not a lot of specifics on

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<v Speaker 1>what he used, but uh, Canadian body art enthusiast Lane

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<v Speaker 1>Jensen had the implants done too in hants the chest

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<v Speaker 1>of this particular emblem. So our topographical tattoo, if you will. Yeah. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we bring all of this up because as long as

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<v Speaker 1>there have been humans with access to a needle in

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<v Speaker 1>some dye, there have been tattoos. So the question now

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<v Speaker 1>becomes what are some of the more cutting edge technologies

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<v Speaker 1>available and what will the future hold, because in general,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna keep getting them for the same reasons we

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<v Speaker 1>thought we've always gotten tattoos. We want to express ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>in darker areas. We want to dehumanize people. Hopefully we

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<v Speaker 1>won't go as much to that route in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>but who knows. Uh. We want to treat the illness

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<v Speaker 1>illnesses so somehow improve the functioning of our bodies. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh we see all of these energies in our in

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<v Speaker 1>our future and emerging. Uh tattooing technology. Now, the maker

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<v Speaker 1>movement has a foothold in tattoo technology. Parish design studio

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<v Speaker 1>Appropriate Audiences combined a three D printer with a tattoo

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<v Speaker 1>with needle to form an automated tattoo printer that can

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<v Speaker 1>create tattoos. They adapted software produced by something or by

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<v Speaker 1>a company called Autodesk to turn tattoo designs into digital

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<v Speaker 1>files that can be downloaded to the machine. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the user inserts his or her limb into the printer

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<v Speaker 1>and the needle draws the design into their skin. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, apparently the needle replaces the part of the

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<v Speaker 1>printer that would usually extrude melted plastic to make objects interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's very much in keeping with the origins

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<v Speaker 1>of the tattoo gun itself, which was based on a

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<v Speaker 1>believe Edison's model for the electric pencil type device. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the electric pen um And this is I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is fairly nuanced for just being a hacked three D printer,

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<v Speaker 1>because what they did is they made some bespoke three

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<v Speaker 1>D printed parts to work with it, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>have a sensor that reads the surface of the skin

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<v Speaker 1>of the user, meaning that the needle can respond to

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<v Speaker 1>changes in skin texture and the dimensions of the limb.

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<v Speaker 1>So it makes me think, you know, who knows, this

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<v Speaker 1>could be more of a d I O Y endeavor

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<v Speaker 1>in the future with three D printers. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just looking beyond do it yourself. And as I

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<v Speaker 1>say this, I certainly hope that the human tattoo artist

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<v Speaker 1>never goes away, because I feel like it's a vital part.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's the ritual, that's the thing, and you need.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want a machine, you want a high priest.

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<v Speaker 1>It's taking care of your your semi religious ritual of

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<v Speaker 1>pain and so that human touch. But maybe we little

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<v Speaker 1>reach the top of the day when instead of a

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<v Speaker 1>cigarette machine in the back of your local bar, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a tattoo machine. And that would be the perfect place

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<v Speaker 1>for it. You just go back there and you suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>have an idea. Yes, I want the name of this

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<v Speaker 1>individual I just met put into my skin. Yes I

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<v Speaker 1>want that football team on my shin, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>stick your arm or leg or what have you into

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<v Speaker 1>the machine. It clamps down and then just prints that

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<v Speaker 1>sucker right into your skin. Okay. The problem with that

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<v Speaker 1>is that you would have a bunch of sort of

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<v Speaker 1>well would you call like clip art designs available, So

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<v Speaker 1>that will any tattoo place, So you're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of clip art available, although some tattoo artists will

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<v Speaker 1>create their own designs, right, so it's not necessarily from

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<v Speaker 1>the clip art available. So what I'm saying is that

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the artistry there could be lost in

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<v Speaker 1>a three D machine. Oh oh indeed, I mean unless

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<v Speaker 1>you you're really looking far into the future and you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at at the possibilities of artificial intelligence being a

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<v Speaker 1>part of that machine. Oh yeah, And if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to look more into that, you should check out our

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<v Speaker 1>episode on I think we titled it can Machines Be Creative? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I will make sure to include a link to that

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<v Speaker 1>podcast episode on the landing page for this episode at

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to Blow your mind dot com. Now, as we

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<v Speaker 1>discussed this, we're gonna inevitably hit on ideas that really

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<v Speaker 1>resonate with sci fi fans out there. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to think of some really great examples of science

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<v Speaker 1>fiction tattoos, and two came to mind. First, Uh, dr

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Wong from Futurama, because she has several tattoos um

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<v Speaker 1>that come up throughout the course of the show. But

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<v Speaker 1>a particularly note, there's there's one episode where she has this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>really obscene tattoo, but we can't see it because our

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<v Speaker 1>TVs in the past aka the current the modern age. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we we don't have high enough deaf to see what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in this obscene tattoo. And uh and then

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<v Speaker 1>there there seemed to be at least four talking tattoos

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<v Speaker 1>that pop up throughout the course of the show, including

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<v Speaker 1>a devil that on her shoulder that that says also

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of obnoxious things. But it's essentially an animated tattoo,

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<v Speaker 1>which actually kind of exists kind of in a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of very sketchy sense. But but yeah, it's certainly something

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<v Speaker 1>that is already on the minds of tattoo enthusiasts and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and and and anyone that's looking into the future

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<v Speaker 1>is like, what what else can we do with the

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<v Speaker 1>tattooing medium? What can we do with our current and

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<v Speaker 1>emerging technology to change the shape of what it does?

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<v Speaker 1>Is um. Another example that comes to mind in Ian M.

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<v Speaker 1>Bank's Surface Detail, which is one of his culture novels,

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<v Speaker 1>which I've talked about those before, wonderful books. UM. In

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<v Speaker 1>that particular book, there's a character who's covered with congenitally

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<v Speaker 1>administered tattoos uh and it had there's a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a complex plot with her where she's essentially born into

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of an indentured service kind of environment, and

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<v Speaker 1>so she's kind of like tattooed at a genetic level

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<v Speaker 1>to show that she property. But yeah, in the book,

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<v Speaker 1>she eventually acquires this uh, this kind of nanotechnology uh

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<v Speaker 1>thin layer that covers her body and it serves as

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<v Speaker 1>like a space suit, but it also allows sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like customized animated tattoos to pop up. Now it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not under the skin, so it's not technically a tattoo,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's very much in the in the spirit of

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<v Speaker 1>augmenting your body with with high technology, which which kind

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<v Speaker 1>of brings us back to now out and what we

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<v Speaker 1>can do in terms of animated tattoos. In two thousand eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>a Paris based tattoo artist who goes by the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Carl K A R L like all initials, uh

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<v Speaker 1>ink at QR code on a willing participant named Marco.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just we should say willing um. And

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<v Speaker 1>what happens is that QR code When you put an

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone over it, the phone plays an animated tattoo design

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<v Speaker 1>of a top head hatted kind of character. Yeah, with

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<v Speaker 1>a thin, long mustache, almost like the Monopoly dude. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of a rudimentary idea of what an

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<v Speaker 1>animated tattoo can be, because we think animated tattoo, that's

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<v Speaker 1>like independently animated. But no, it has to interact with technology. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that's really the I think the cool part

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<v Speaker 1>about this particular tattoo is that it is a tattoo

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<v Speaker 1>that interacts with technology. And we'll discuss some more examples

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<v Speaker 1>of that as we move forward. Now, I would do

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<v Speaker 1>want to point out that how stuff works. Do us

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<v Speaker 1>have an article how animated tattoos? Work. There'll there will

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<v Speaker 1>be a link to that on the landing page for

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. But that one deals with a particular individual, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of individuals, J. Shawn Singer and carl A.

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<v Speaker 1>Pinter who back in two thousand six, we're working with

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of a programmable subcutaneous visible implant, which is

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<v Speaker 1>essentially an l c D under the skin like sin. Yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's like a control model power supply. The article

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<v Speaker 1>goes into more depth about how this supposedly worked. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not something you can get at your local

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo parliament, and it's very much uh some do it

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<v Speaker 1>yourself cybernetic tinkering in the flesh. Um, it's interesting. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not completely out of keeping with the idea of the tattoo,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's uh, it's certainly a very crude example of

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<v Speaker 1>where we may be going in the future and thinks novel, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's basically the do it yourself two thousand six

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<v Speaker 1>version of that under the skin. Now. Um, the next

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<v Speaker 1>example we're gonna bring up is based in biometric recognition. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know what that is, right, That's been around

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, this idea that you can plug information

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<v Speaker 1>in you can identify people based on physical characteristics like fingerprints,

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<v Speaker 1>the iris of an eye, or a face. Facebook facial

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<v Speaker 1>recognition uses something similar and attempt to try to semi

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<v Speaker 1>automate their photo tagging system. But we've got an upgrade

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<v Speaker 1>to that, and it comes by way of Aneil Jane

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<v Speaker 1>at Michigan State University, professor of computers. Yeah, back in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand he created an automatic image retrieval system whereby

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement agencies would be able to unmatch scars, marks,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course tattoos to identify suspects and victims. H

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<v Speaker 1>And as if you've ever seen a cop show, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that like tattoos always come up. You know, are

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<v Speaker 1>there any tattoos or just singuishing marks, right, that's always

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<v Speaker 1>a key part of it and find somebody. So it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense that you'd want to uh incorporate that into

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<v Speaker 1>your biometric information. And so this is the idea behind

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo i D. And this identification tool would be then

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<v Speaker 1>be made available to law enforcement, government, military agencies. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, in two thousand ten, Michigan State University licensed

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo i D technology to morphoe track the world's quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote top provider of biometric and identity management systems. So

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<v Speaker 1>we see this not just as a sort of cutting

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<v Speaker 1>edge technology, but a technology that's being adopted on a

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<v Speaker 1>wide scale. Yeah, I mean it makes perfect sense. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you have an individual with the distinguishing marked, distinguishing tattoo,

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<v Speaker 1>you want that to be a part of your record keeping.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you want to bump that up against the database,

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<v Speaker 1>right and see what comes out. And it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>that it determines the suspect's identity with a really high

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<v Speaker 1>accuracy rate. And while you know this identifying mark, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it be a scar or tattoo, can't uniquely identify a person,

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<v Speaker 1>that can help authorities narrow down the list of potential identities,

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<v Speaker 1>and it can indicate membership in a gang, social and

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<v Speaker 1>religious group, or a military unit. Of course, this wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop savvy criminals with means, right because even in a

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<v Speaker 1>d I Y since we've seen criminals obscure their fingerprints

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<v Speaker 1>by slicing them off, so obviously tattoo removal or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even covering up would change those marks are identifying marks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you just change the tattoo every time you commit a crime,

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<v Speaker 1>like the first time it's a rabbit, the second time

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<v Speaker 1>it's a rabbit on a donkey. Then it's jousting with

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<v Speaker 1>a with a windmill or something, you know, and just

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<v Speaker 1>add some new element to it, and just and just

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<v Speaker 1>keep the the tattoo I D system ever, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on its on its feet, trying to catch up with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope interpoll isn't listening, right, because that's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>your m O. Right, you just revealed it to the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I know now they know, now they know. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a quick break, and when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we will discuss more about the future in near future

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<v Speaker 1>of crazy high tech tattooks. We're back in this uh

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<v Speaker 1>this next entry. I guess we could say that the

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<v Speaker 1>nineties rave scene helped to spawn it. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're if you're going to a rave of it's,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in the nineties, you know, what are you gonna encounter.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna go into a room with some some hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>really awesome electronic music going on, really fierce. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's likely going to be dark, except with some crazy

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<v Speaker 1>lighting something glow sticks, glow sticks, perhaps some ultra violet

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<v Speaker 1>lighting going on as well, and that ultraviolet light will

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<v Speaker 1>be illuminating certain colors, certain tones, and really changing the

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<v Speaker 1>the visual world that you're that you're taking part in.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you have ultra violet die pumped into you

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<v Speaker 1>into a tattoo, it will reveal itself under this black light. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you essentially have a black light tattoo that that under

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<v Speaker 1>normal normals from stances doesn't even show up, is essentially invisible.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when you enter the rave environment, you were

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<v Speaker 1>a different person, not only because you took that ecstasy,

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<v Speaker 1>but also because you have this tattoo. Indeed, now, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not clear if using ultra violet ink poses any

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<v Speaker 1>health risks. Um, so we should you know, throw that

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Um. But it does kind of make some

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<v Speaker 1>very cool tattoos, even cool. I saw one tattoo of

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<v Speaker 1>Yoda poised for battle in regular light, but then you

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<v Speaker 1>put the black light over him, and his eyes glow

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<v Speaker 1>and you know he's his lightsaber is blue and menacing looking.

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<v Speaker 1>I like I like it. I mean I like the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of it because it's it's the idea that you

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<v Speaker 1>could have a tattoo that that changes it's uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>essential form, depending them on your environment. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>enter into an environment with black lights, such as a

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<v Speaker 1>rave or a um, yeah, I guess a rave such

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<v Speaker 1>as well, only a rave mainly mainly raves or puppet

0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.680
<v Speaker 1>shows that use black live or ironically like some of

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<v Speaker 1>these kids joints, you know, these jumpy houses. Goodness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you show up there and you just think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you think you're just another mom and other dad taking

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<v Speaker 1>your kid there to the bounce place, and then lo

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<v Speaker 1>and behold the black lights reveal your your alternate persona. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. Oops. Now we talked about radiation tattoos

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<v Speaker 1>in the last podcast. This is the practice of inking

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<v Speaker 1>for freckled sized dots in a configuration usually a square

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<v Speaker 1>on a patch of skin, usually impressed cancer radiology, and

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<v Speaker 1>that helps the radiologists to better line up the area

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<v Speaker 1>to be treated. And we bring this up again because, um,

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<v Speaker 1>having those tattoos, as discreet as they are for some people,

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<v Speaker 1>can be troubling because it's a reminder of the cancer

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<v Speaker 1>or this feeling that you know, the cancer come back

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<v Speaker 1>and this you know, you know, a lot of magical

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<v Speaker 1>thinking happens. Um as well, it should with something that

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<v Speaker 1>is this weighty of a subject. Yeah, indeed, so I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just basically understand why someone in this situation

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<v Speaker 1>might choose to have less permanent marks on their body

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<v Speaker 1>if it were at all possible, and this style of

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<v Speaker 1>tattooing makes that possible. You could get essentially an invisible

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo that only shows up under black light. That when

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<v Speaker 1>you're receiving the treatment, they use a black light to

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<v Speaker 1>identify where the marks are so that they can they

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<v Speaker 1>can aim everything correctly. But then the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>time it's not an issue. Yeah. Researchers based at the

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<v Speaker 1>Royal Marston Hospital in London asked forty two brust cancer

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<v Speaker 1>patients undergoing radiotherapy to rate how they felt about their

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<v Speaker 1>body before the treatment, and then one month later and

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<v Speaker 1>half the women were offered fluorescent tattoos, again only visible

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<v Speaker 1>under the UV light, while the other half had conventional

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<v Speaker 1>dark ink tattoos. And the researchers found that fifty of

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<v Speaker 1>the women who had those fluorescent tattoos felt better about

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<v Speaker 1>their bodies one month after treatment, compared to only four

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<v Speaker 1>percent among those who have the traditional black dye tattoos. Interesting, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a quick break and when we get back,

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<v Speaker 1>more future and more tattoos. So you probably want where

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<v Speaker 1>do we go from here? We've already talked about a

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo that it essentially is invisible, that only comes to

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<v Speaker 1>life during a mid nineties rave. So so so what's

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<v Speaker 1>next on the list? Well, how about Pharaoh magnetic ink

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<v Speaker 1>in your tattoo? Yeah, because think about regular inc just

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<v Speaker 1>sits so quietly deposited into those specialized cells called macro

0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:41.480
<v Speaker 1>fishes and fibroblasts sitting in your dermis, just trapped there.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're ink was enriched with metallic compounds, your

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo might tingle if say, your phone rings. Shall we explain? Yeah? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, you don't have to explain why someone

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<v Speaker 1>would want this. Obviously, we all wish that our cell

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<v Speaker 1>phones would actually have an even more bodily effect on us,

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<v Speaker 1>that we would actually feel it in our bodies. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I say this because I do have a hard time

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<v Speaker 1>imagining why you would want that. Like the just yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>I was working at a coffee shop and everybody who

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<v Speaker 1>was a head their laptop on a single bar, and

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<v Speaker 1>like multiple people had their cell phones out on the table.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if if one person's cell phone would vibrate

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<v Speaker 1>we'd all feel it, and we'd all have that momentary

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<v Speaker 1>bodily reaction to a phone going off, and then you're wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>who's trying to get in touch with me? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>good news? Is it bad news? And you just go

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<v Speaker 1>through all of that. So, yes, if you want that

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<v Speaker 1>feeling to actually be a part of your anenemy on

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<v Speaker 1>some level, then farromagnetic inc is is what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to look into. Yeah. So once that ink is enriched

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<v Speaker 1>with metallic compounds and sort of skin, it's demagnetized. But

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<v Speaker 1>when the tattoo is healed, it's remagnetized without side magnets

0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:58.280
<v Speaker 1>right exterior ones, and it becomes responsive to magnetic pulses,

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<v Speaker 1>which theoretically can be emitted by a cell phone. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And Nokia submitted a patent for this in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and twelve as part of of their haptic technology to

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<v Speaker 1>interact with their products. And whether they intend to actually

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<v Speaker 1>produce and market this technology or whether it was just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a pre emptive move to prevent others from

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<v Speaker 1>developing the technology is not known. Um, I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 1>a big corporation would be of the mindset. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want people to have this, so we getting

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine it was more in line with people might

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<v Speaker 1>want this eventually. So if they're going to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna make money off of it. Well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you consider all the brain and body technological

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<v Speaker 1>interfaces that are being developed already. Yeah, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it as repugnant as the idea of my my

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<v Speaker 1>phone reaching into my body is. As we inevitably merge

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<v Speaker 1>with the machine, we we want it to be as

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<v Speaker 1>h as painless the process as possible. We want we

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<v Speaker 1>want to be able to to feel our machines on

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<v Speaker 1>some levels. So well, you guys know this to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why I bet all of you at

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<v Speaker 1>some point have been reaching for a memory or a

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<v Speaker 1>fact and you're just sitting there without the benefit of Google,

0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and you think to yourself, if only I had that

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<v Speaker 1>Google implant right now, I could keyword this mother and

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<v Speaker 1>it would be done. I would I would retrieve the

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<v Speaker 1>information that I'm looking for. So um, speaking of Google,

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<v Speaker 1>they're Motorola Division patent at a device that looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a neck tattoo. And uh, this device is attached directly

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<v Speaker 1>to the skin, where it picks up vibrations from the

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<v Speaker 1>vocal cords, creating a microphone with virtually no interference. And

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<v Speaker 1>again it's not known if this is like a preemptive

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<v Speaker 1>patent they really are going to create this, or if

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<v Speaker 1>it's just maybe even an attempt to get some attention

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<v Speaker 1>by Google. So again it brings to mind the animated

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo that we discussed earlier. We see sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>early do it yourself um rumblings of what what is

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<v Speaker 1>present in these patents, The idea that we can take

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<v Speaker 1>technology that that is emerging and place it underneath the skin,

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<v Speaker 1>make it, you know, part of our body and and

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<v Speaker 1>allow us to better interface with our technology, which when

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<v Speaker 1>you consider the fitbit right and what it does for us,

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<v Speaker 1>and then sort of making that sub cutaneous thing, makes

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<v Speaker 1>you realize that this may very well be in the

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<v Speaker 1>future and you have one of these. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a fit bit, but Holly has one, Holly fry of

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<v Speaker 1>history stuff and she loves it because it shows her

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping patterns, like how much she wakes up during the

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<v Speaker 1>night and um, you know she's she's a runner, so

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<v Speaker 1>it calculates all of that good stuff. But she normally

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<v Speaker 1>she just has a clip to her right like not's

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<v Speaker 1>not attached to her skin. Well, you know, she's a

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<v Speaker 1>costume designer, so she may have already inserted this subcutaneo.

0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:51.400
<v Speaker 1>She likes to hack things. Um. But people behind fitbit

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<v Speaker 1>have drafted a concept called Project under Skin. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a digital tattoo that would be implanted in

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<v Speaker 1>your hand and allow you to try trade data with handshake,

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<v Speaker 1>monitor your vital signs, or even unlock a door. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is pretty pretty pretty amazing, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you get into some of the even crazier details like

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<v Speaker 1>the even more high tech details for instance, which which

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<v Speaker 1>seems kind of remarkable that there would be more details

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<v Speaker 1>to this that that are stunning. But the team actually

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<v Speaker 1>envisions that the device will run off the body's own

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<v Speaker 1>electrochemical energy, so it's it's on all the time, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't have to to worry about charging your

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<v Speaker 1>hand at night or anything of that nature. Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>essentially a cybernetic part of your body and a very

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<v Speaker 1>real and meaningful way, and and then allowing you to

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<v Speaker 1>interact with the cybernetic bodies of others. Like you you

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<v Speaker 1>shake somebody's hand, you end up exchanging the data. But

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<v Speaker 1>if it's just a fist pump. You might exchange different

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<v Speaker 1>data because they talk about it being there being a

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<v Speaker 1>sensor on the outer part of the hand and then

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<v Speaker 1>on the inner part because the idea of the inner

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<v Speaker 1>part of the hand is more more personal UM and

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<v Speaker 1>so that would be maybe be the connection point more

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<v Speaker 1>personal data for UH for the unlocking of doors, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very odd to me because the implications of that

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty far reaching. You can extrapolate that out and

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<v Speaker 1>you could even sort of you could look at someone's

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<v Speaker 1>microbial colony on their hands, which could kind of give

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<v Speaker 1>you some sort of profile on them, especially since we

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.240
<v Speaker 1>are beginning to know more and more about the micro biome.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, you know how I love that. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean this technology plays directly into some of the the

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<v Speaker 1>technology who've discussed before for real time health monitoring and

0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>how important that would be to h to just to

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the overall health of the individual, being able to just

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<v Speaker 1>check in on in a real time basis to see

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with conditions of the body and not

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<v Speaker 1>depending upon um annual or semi annual checkups to see

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 1>how much damage has been done by a condition. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Project underscan again this is more of an abstracognition of

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<v Speaker 1>what could be. Uh. There is an actual concrete device

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<v Speaker 1>in the works by material scientists On Rogers, who created

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<v Speaker 1>something called Epidural Electronics lovely um only because epidural and

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you seem to associate with procedures that are medical. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It sticks to your skin like a temporary tattoo, and

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>it can do anything from monitor your body's vital signals

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 1>to alerting you when you're starting to get a sunburn.

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 1>And Rogers and his company m C tent are currently

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out ways to get the electronics to

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<v Speaker 1>to communicate with other devices like smartphones, so that they

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<v Speaker 1>can start building apps for this. Yeah. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>also point out that New Deal Design people behind Underskin,

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<v Speaker 1>they believe that they can actually build this within the

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<v Speaker 1>next five years given the state of current electronics. And

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.679
<v Speaker 1>they say that the the hard part is actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the flexible display that would be involved here,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than the sensor communication and implantation, or even that

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that the means by which would siphon off your own

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>bodily energy. You know the thing I'm thinking about this

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<v Speaker 1>beyond like personal security risks here or that, what about

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<v Speaker 1>the inflammation site. And was this due to your immune

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>system to have this thing that's that's semi permanent in

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 1>your body? Yeah? And then can you overdo it? Do

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>you end up with you have to worry about having

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<v Speaker 1>too many um dermal or epidermal implants in your body?

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Can you go too far with this? Yeah? And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I really I keep thinking about this. It's gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be probably at the Nanni less scale really for your

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<v Speaker 1>body to give it a path. Yeah, and it and

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<v Speaker 1>it also comes down to the the power of the

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo itself. You know that you're making something a permanent

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<v Speaker 1>or at least semipermanent part of your body. And do

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<v Speaker 1>we really want to forge a permanent bond with our electronics?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to form a permanent bond with with

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<v Speaker 1>your iPhone? I mean, because even the iPhone is exciting

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<v Speaker 1>as that new iPhone is, you know, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be obsolete and a number of years it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the cutting edge thing. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>just a thing that goes in your pocket, not something

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<v Speaker 1>that is implanted in your skin. Moreover, if this really

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<v Speaker 1>takes off and and it's out there everywhere as ubiquitous.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has some sort of interactive tattoo. Does it make

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<v Speaker 1>tattoos less special? Does it make it kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>this boogie uh consumer driven thing that everybody is now using.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it's sort of like the I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>say the Google glasses that have nothing against them, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, eventually, if everybody wears those and everybody has

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<v Speaker 1>this interactive tattoo, it loses some of the magic. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's it's gonna be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 1>how it how it goes. Maybe it'll just be something

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<v Speaker 1>we all get used to and we're all cool with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so cool because it offers lots of stuff, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe it'll you know, it'll be the mark of

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<v Speaker 1>the Beast. I kept running across that when I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading these articles. Inevitably, somebody in the comics would say

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds like the mark of the Beast to make

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<v Speaker 1>you know what we know, what we need is an

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<v Speaker 1>interactive mark of the Beast tattoo. Right when that's animated, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can uh, and then it'll also there'll

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<v Speaker 1>be an app for it. You can actually you can

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<v Speaker 1>pull up on your phone to see who in your

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<v Speaker 1>area is uh the tune to the Anti Christ uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know you'll know who to hang out with.

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<v Speaker 1>Sore you go a sort of crash course and where

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