1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Works dot Com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas. In 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: our last episode, the Science of Tattooing, The Sammy's the Tattoos, 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: we discussed the history of the culture of tattoos a 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: little bit kind of an overview, and then we broke 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: down the science of getting that that symbol, that name, 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: that deity, that dolphin put into your flesh in a 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: this semi permanent way. Indeed, and we even talked about 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: some of the more unusual tattooing practices, like having your 11 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: medical condition tattooed on you. Um. We didn't talk about 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: scleral tattooing. We did not, yeah, which is tattooing the 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: whites of your eyes. Yeah, which is doable, not necessarily advised, 14 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: but it is possible, just to show you just how 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: how extreme your tattooing can go. Uh And and indeed, 16 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: uh we also didn't get into some of the ways 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: that individuals augment their tattoos, uh, such as by adding 18 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: additional implants. We were looking at an example, uh of 19 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: an individual who gave breast implants to his tattoo back 20 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: in two thousand seven. Um, yeah, on his on his 21 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: leg to be specific, mermaid. Yeah, yeah, or it was 22 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: I can't tell when the picture was a mermaid or 23 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: possibly just a cowgirl. Can I see again? Oh, you're right, 24 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: it as a cowgirl. I don't know why I thought 25 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: that was a mermaid with like a cowboy hat. Well, 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: you know, there are a lot of mermaid tattoos, and 27 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: essentially it's a mermaid tattoo. It's very much in that 28 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: same genre. But yeah, he apparently decided it needs implants 29 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: and uh apparently there's not a lot of specifics on 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: what he used, but uh, Canadian body art enthusiast Lane 31 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: Jensen had the implants done too in hants the chest 32 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: of this particular emblem. So our topographical tattoo, if you will. Yeah. Now, 33 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: we bring all of this up because as long as 34 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: there have been humans with access to a needle in 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: some dye, there have been tattoos. So the question now 36 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: becomes what are some of the more cutting edge technologies 37 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: available and what will the future hold, because in general, 38 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep getting them for the same reasons we 39 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: thought we've always gotten tattoos. We want to express ourselves 40 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: in darker areas. We want to dehumanize people. Hopefully we 41 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: won't go as much to that route in the future, 42 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: but who knows. Uh. We want to treat the illness 43 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: illnesses so somehow improve the functioning of our bodies. And 44 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: uh we see all of these energies in our in 45 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: our future and emerging. Uh tattooing technology. Now, the maker 46 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: movement has a foothold in tattoo technology. Parish design studio 47 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: Appropriate Audiences combined a three D printer with a tattoo 48 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: with needle to form an automated tattoo printer that can 49 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: create tattoos. They adapted software produced by something or by 50 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: a company called Autodesk to turn tattoo designs into digital 51 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: files that can be downloaded to the machine. And then 52 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: the user inserts his or her limb into the printer 53 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: and the needle draws the design into their skin. Yeah, 54 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: and uh, apparently the needle replaces the part of the 55 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: printer that would usually extrude melted plastic to make objects interesting. 56 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's very much in keeping with the origins 57 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: of the tattoo gun itself, which was based on a 58 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: believe Edison's model for the electric pencil type device. Yeah, 59 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: the electric pen um And this is I mean, this 60 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: is fairly nuanced for just being a hacked three D printer, 61 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: because what they did is they made some bespoke three 62 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: D printed parts to work with it, and then they 63 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: have a sensor that reads the surface of the skin 64 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: of the user, meaning that the needle can respond to 65 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: changes in skin texture and the dimensions of the limb. 66 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: So it makes me think, you know, who knows, this 67 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: could be more of a d I O Y endeavor 68 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: in the future with three D printers. I don't know 69 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Oh, 70 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm just looking beyond do it yourself. And as I 71 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: say this, I certainly hope that the human tattoo artist 72 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: never goes away, because I feel like it's a vital part. 73 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's the ritual, that's the thing, and you need. 74 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: You don't want a machine, you want a high priest. 75 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: It's taking care of your your semi religious ritual of 76 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: pain and so that human touch. But maybe we little 77 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: reach the top of the day when instead of a 78 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: cigarette machine in the back of your local bar, there's 79 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: a tattoo machine. And that would be the perfect place 80 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: for it. You just go back there and you suddenly 81 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: have an idea. Yes, I want the name of this 82 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: individual I just met put into my skin. Yes I 83 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: want that football team on my shin, and you just 84 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: stick your arm or leg or what have you into 85 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: the machine. It clamps down and then just prints that 86 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: sucker right into your skin. Okay. The problem with that 87 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: is that you would have a bunch of sort of 88 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: well would you call like clip art designs available, So 89 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: that will any tattoo place, So you're gonna have a 90 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: lot of clip art available, although some tattoo artists will 91 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: create their own designs, right, so it's not necessarily from 92 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: the clip art available. So what I'm saying is that 93 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: I think that the artistry there could be lost in 94 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: a three D machine. Oh oh indeed, I mean unless 95 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: you you're really looking far into the future and you're 96 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: looking at at the possibilities of artificial intelligence being a 97 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: part of that machine. Oh yeah, And if you want 98 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: to look more into that, you should check out our 99 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: episode on I think we titled it can Machines Be Creative? Yes, 100 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: I will make sure to include a link to that 101 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: podcast episode on the landing page for this episode at 102 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: stuff to Blow your mind dot com. Now, as we 103 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: discussed this, we're gonna inevitably hit on ideas that really 104 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: resonate with sci fi fans out there. And I was 105 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: trying to think of some really great examples of science 106 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: fiction tattoos, and two came to mind. First, Uh, dr 107 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: Amy Wong from Futurama, because she has several tattoos um 108 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: that come up throughout the course of the show. But 109 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: a particularly note, there's there's one episode where she has this, uh, 110 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: really obscene tattoo, but we can't see it because our 111 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: TVs in the past aka the current the modern age. Uh, 112 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: we we don't have high enough deaf to see what's 113 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: going on in this obscene tattoo. And uh and then 114 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: there there seemed to be at least four talking tattoos 115 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: that pop up throughout the course of the show, including 116 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: a devil that on her shoulder that that says also 117 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: sorts of obnoxious things. But it's essentially an animated tattoo, 118 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: which actually kind of exists kind of in a kind 119 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: of very sketchy sense. But but yeah, it's certainly something 120 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: that is already on the minds of tattoo enthusiasts and 121 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: uh and and and anyone that's looking into the future 122 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: is like, what what else can we do with the 123 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: tattooing medium? What can we do with our current and 124 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: emerging technology to change the shape of what it does? 125 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: Is um. Another example that comes to mind in Ian M. 126 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 1: Bank's Surface Detail, which is one of his culture novels, 127 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: which I've talked about those before, wonderful books. UM. In 128 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: that particular book, there's a character who's covered with congenitally 129 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: administered tattoos uh and it had there's a kind of 130 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: a complex plot with her where she's essentially born into 131 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: a kind of an indentured service kind of environment, and 132 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: so she's kind of like tattooed at a genetic level 133 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: to show that she property. But yeah, in the book, 134 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: she eventually acquires this uh, this kind of nanotechnology uh 135 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: thin layer that covers her body and it serves as 136 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: like a space suit, but it also allows sort of 137 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: like customized animated tattoos to pop up. Now it's you know, 138 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: it's not under the skin, so it's not technically a tattoo, 139 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: but it's very much in the in the spirit of 140 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: augmenting your body with with high technology, which which kind 141 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: of brings us back to now out and what we 142 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: can do in terms of animated tattoos. In two thousand eleven, 143 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: a Paris based tattoo artist who goes by the name 144 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: of Carl K A R L like all initials, uh 145 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: ink at QR code on a willing participant named Marco. 146 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: I think you just we should say willing um. And 147 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: what happens is that QR code When you put an 148 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: iPhone over it, the phone plays an animated tattoo design 149 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: of a top head hatted kind of character. Yeah, with 150 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: a thin, long mustache, almost like the Monopoly dude. Yeah. Yeah, 151 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: And that's kind of a rudimentary idea of what an 152 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: animated tattoo can be, because we think animated tattoo, that's 153 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: like independently animated. But no, it has to interact with technology. Yeah, 154 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: and that's that's really the I think the cool part 155 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: about this particular tattoo is that it is a tattoo 156 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: that interacts with technology. And we'll discuss some more examples 157 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: of that as we move forward. Now, I would do 158 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: want to point out that how stuff works. Do us 159 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: have an article how animated tattoos? Work. There'll there will 160 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: be a link to that on the landing page for 161 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: this episode. But that one deals with a particular individual, uh, 162 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: a pair of individuals, J. Shawn Singer and carl A. 163 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: Pinter who back in two thousand six, we're working with 164 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: the idea of a programmable subcutaneous visible implant, which is 165 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: essentially an l c D under the skin like sin. Yeah, so, 166 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: and there's like a control model power supply. The article 167 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: goes into more depth about how this supposedly worked. Uh, 168 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: but it's not something you can get at your local 169 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: tattoo parliament, and it's very much uh some do it 170 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: yourself cybernetic tinkering in the flesh. Um, it's interesting. It's 171 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: not completely out of keeping with the idea of the tattoo, 172 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: but it's uh, it's certainly a very crude example of 173 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: where we may be going in the future and thinks novel, right, Yeah, 174 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: Like it's basically the do it yourself two thousand six 175 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: version of that under the skin. Now. Um, the next 176 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: example we're gonna bring up is based in biometric recognition. Okay, 177 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: and we know what that is, right, That's been around 178 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: for a while, this idea that you can plug information 179 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: in you can identify people based on physical characteristics like fingerprints, 180 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: the iris of an eye, or a face. Facebook facial 181 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: recognition uses something similar and attempt to try to semi 182 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: automate their photo tagging system. But we've got an upgrade 183 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: to that, and it comes by way of Aneil Jane 184 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: at Michigan State University, professor of computers. Yeah, back in 185 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: two thousand he created an automatic image retrieval system whereby 186 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: law enforcement agencies would be able to unmatch scars, marks, 187 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: and of course tattoos to identify suspects and victims. H 188 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: And as if you've ever seen a cop show, you 189 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: know that like tattoos always come up. You know, are 190 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: there any tattoos or just singuishing marks, right, that's always 191 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: a key part of it and find somebody. So it 192 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: makes sense that you'd want to uh incorporate that into 193 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: your biometric information. And so this is the idea behind 194 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: tattoo i D. And this identification tool would be then 195 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: be made available to law enforcement, government, military agencies. And 196 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: in fact, in two thousand ten, Michigan State University licensed 197 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: tattoo i D technology to morphoe track the world's quote 198 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: unquote top provider of biometric and identity management systems. So 199 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: we see this not just as a sort of cutting 200 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: edge technology, but a technology that's being adopted on a 201 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: wide scale. Yeah, I mean it makes perfect sense. Right now, 202 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: you have an individual with the distinguishing marked, distinguishing tattoo, 203 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: you want that to be a part of your record keeping. 204 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, you want to bump that up against the database, 205 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: right and see what comes out. And it turns out 206 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: that it determines the suspect's identity with a really high 207 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: accuracy rate. And while you know this identifying mark, whether 208 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: it be a scar or tattoo, can't uniquely identify a person, 209 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: that can help authorities narrow down the list of potential identities, 210 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: and it can indicate membership in a gang, social and 211 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: religious group, or a military unit. Of course, this wouldn't 212 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: stop savvy criminals with means, right because even in a 213 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: d I Y since we've seen criminals obscure their fingerprints 214 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: by slicing them off, so obviously tattoo removal or you know, 215 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: even covering up would change those marks are identifying marks. Yeah, 216 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: you just change the tattoo every time you commit a crime, 217 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: like the first time it's a rabbit, the second time 218 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: it's a rabbit on a donkey. Then it's jousting with 219 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: a with a windmill or something, you know, and just 220 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: add some new element to it, and just and just 221 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: keep the the tattoo I D system ever, you know, 222 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: on its on its feet, trying to catch up with you. 223 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: I hope interpoll isn't listening, right, because that's sort of 224 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: your m O. Right, you just revealed it to the world. 225 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: I know now they know, now they know. All right, 226 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break, and when we come back, 227 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: we will discuss more about the future in near future 228 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: of crazy high tech tattooks. We're back in this uh 229 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: this next entry. I guess we could say that the 230 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: nineties rave scene helped to spawn it. Oh yeah, yeah, 231 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: because you're if you're going to a rave of it's, 232 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: particularly in the nineties, you know, what are you gonna encounter. 233 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna go into a room with some some hopefully 234 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: really awesome electronic music going on, really fierce. Yeah, it's 235 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: it's likely going to be dark, except with some crazy 236 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: lighting something glow sticks, glow sticks, perhaps some ultra violet 237 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: lighting going on as well, and that ultraviolet light will 238 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: be illuminating certain colors, certain tones, and really changing the 239 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: the visual world that you're that you're taking part in. 240 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: And if you have ultra violet die pumped into you 241 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: into a tattoo, it will reveal itself under this black light. Yeah, 242 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: you essentially have a black light tattoo that that under 243 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,359 Speaker 1: normal normals from stances doesn't even show up, is essentially invisible. 244 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: But then when you enter the rave environment, you were 245 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: a different person, not only because you took that ecstasy, 246 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: but also because you have this tattoo. Indeed, now, um, 247 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: it's not clear if using ultra violet ink poses any 248 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: health risks. Um, so we should you know, throw that 249 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: out there. Um. But it does kind of make some 250 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: very cool tattoos, even cool. I saw one tattoo of 251 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: Yoda poised for battle in regular light, but then you 252 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: put the black light over him, and his eyes glow 253 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: and you know he's his lightsaber is blue and menacing looking. 254 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: I like I like it. I mean I like the 255 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: idea of it because it's it's the idea that you 256 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: could have a tattoo that that changes it's uh, it's 257 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: essential form, depending them on your environment. And if you 258 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: enter into an environment with black lights, such as a 259 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: rave or a um, yeah, I guess a rave such 260 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: as well, only a rave mainly mainly raves or puppet 261 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: shows that use black live or ironically like some of 262 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: these kids joints, you know, these jumpy houses. Goodness. Yeah, 263 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: you show up there and you just think, you know, 264 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: you think you're just another mom and other dad taking 265 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: your kid there to the bounce place, and then lo 266 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: and behold the black lights reveal your your alternate persona. Yeah, 267 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: there you go. Oops. Now we talked about radiation tattoos 268 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: in the last podcast. This is the practice of inking 269 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: for freckled sized dots in a configuration usually a square 270 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: on a patch of skin, usually impressed cancer radiology, and 271 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: that helps the radiologists to better line up the area 272 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: to be treated. And we bring this up again because, um, 273 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: having those tattoos, as discreet as they are for some people, 274 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: can be troubling because it's a reminder of the cancer 275 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: or this feeling that you know, the cancer come back 276 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: and this you know, you know, a lot of magical 277 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: thinking happens. Um as well, it should with something that 278 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: is this weighty of a subject. Yeah, indeed, so I mean, 279 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: you can just basically understand why someone in this situation 280 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: might choose to have less permanent marks on their body 281 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: if it were at all possible, and this style of 282 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: tattooing makes that possible. You could get essentially an invisible 283 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: tattoo that only shows up under black light. That when 284 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: you're receiving the treatment, they use a black light to 285 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: identify where the marks are so that they can they 286 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: can aim everything correctly. But then the rest of the 287 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: time it's not an issue. Yeah. Researchers based at the 288 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: Royal Marston Hospital in London asked forty two brust cancer 289 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: patients undergoing radiotherapy to rate how they felt about their 290 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: body before the treatment, and then one month later and 291 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: half the women were offered fluorescent tattoos, again only visible 292 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: under the UV light, while the other half had conventional 293 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: dark ink tattoos. And the researchers found that fifty of 294 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: the women who had those fluorescent tattoos felt better about 295 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: their bodies one month after treatment, compared to only four 296 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: percent among those who have the traditional black dye tattoos. Interesting, alright, 297 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and when we get back, 298 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: more future and more tattoos. So you probably want where 299 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: do we go from here? We've already talked about a 300 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: tattoo that it essentially is invisible, that only comes to 301 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: life during a mid nineties rave. So so so what's 302 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: next on the list? Well, how about Pharaoh magnetic ink 303 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: in your tattoo? Yeah, because think about regular inc just 304 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: sits so quietly deposited into those specialized cells called macro 305 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: fishes and fibroblasts sitting in your dermis, just trapped there. 306 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: But if you're ink was enriched with metallic compounds, your 307 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: tattoo might tingle if say, your phone rings. Shall we explain? Yeah? Yes, 308 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean, well, you don't have to explain why someone 309 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: would want this. Obviously, we all wish that our cell 310 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: phones would actually have an even more bodily effect on us, 311 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: that we would actually feel it in our bodies. Uh. 312 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: I say this because I do have a hard time 313 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: imagining why you would want that. Like the just yesterday 314 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: I was working at a coffee shop and everybody who 315 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: was a head their laptop on a single bar, and 316 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: like multiple people had their cell phones out on the table. 317 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: And so if if one person's cell phone would vibrate 318 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: we'd all feel it, and we'd all have that momentary 319 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: bodily reaction to a phone going off, and then you're wondering, 320 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: who's trying to get in touch with me? Is it 321 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: good news? Is it bad news? And you just go 322 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: through all of that. So, yes, if you want that 323 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: feeling to actually be a part of your anenemy on 324 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: some level, then farromagnetic inc is is what you need 325 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: to look into. Yeah. So once that ink is enriched 326 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: with metallic compounds and sort of skin, it's demagnetized. But 327 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: when the tattoo is healed, it's remagnetized without side magnets 328 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: right exterior ones, and it becomes responsive to magnetic pulses, 329 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: which theoretically can be emitted by a cell phone. Right. 330 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: And Nokia submitted a patent for this in two thousand 331 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: and twelve as part of of their haptic technology to 332 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: interact with their products. And whether they intend to actually 333 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: produce and market this technology or whether it was just 334 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: sort of a pre emptive move to prevent others from 335 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: developing the technology is not known. Um, I can't imagine 336 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: a big corporation would be of the mindset. No, No, 337 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: we don't want people to have this, so we getting 338 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: I imagine it was more in line with people might 339 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: want this eventually. So if they're going to do it, 340 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna make money off of it. Well, I mean, 341 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: especially when you consider all the brain and body technological 342 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: interfaces that are being developed already. Yeah, I mean, you 343 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: know it as repugnant as the idea of my my 344 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: phone reaching into my body is. As we inevitably merge 345 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: with the machine, we we want it to be as 346 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: h as painless the process as possible. We want we 347 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: want to be able to to feel our machines on 348 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: some levels. So well, you guys know this to be true. 349 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: And this is why I bet all of you at 350 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: some point have been reaching for a memory or a 351 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: fact and you're just sitting there without the benefit of Google, 352 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: and you think to yourself, if only I had that 353 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: Google implant right now, I could keyword this mother and 354 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: it would be done. I would I would retrieve the 355 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: information that I'm looking for. So um, speaking of Google, 356 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: they're Motorola Division patent at a device that looks like 357 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: a neck tattoo. And uh, this device is attached directly 358 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: to the skin, where it picks up vibrations from the 359 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: vocal cords, creating a microphone with virtually no interference. And 360 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: again it's not known if this is like a preemptive 361 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: patent they really are going to create this, or if 362 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: it's just maybe even an attempt to get some attention 363 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: by Google. So again it brings to mind the animated 364 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: tattoo that we discussed earlier. We see sort of the 365 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: early do it yourself um rumblings of what what is 366 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: present in these patents, The idea that we can take 367 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: technology that that is emerging and place it underneath the skin, 368 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: make it, you know, part of our body and and 369 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: allow us to better interface with our technology, which when 370 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: you consider the fitbit right and what it does for us, 371 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: and then sort of making that sub cutaneous thing, makes 372 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: you realize that this may very well be in the 373 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: future and you have one of these. I don't have 374 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: a fit bit, but Holly has one, Holly fry of 375 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: history stuff and she loves it because it shows her 376 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: sleeping patterns, like how much she wakes up during the 377 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: night and um, you know she's she's a runner, so 378 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: it calculates all of that good stuff. But she normally 379 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: she just has a clip to her right like not's 380 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: not attached to her skin. Well, you know, she's a 381 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: costume designer, so she may have already inserted this subcutaneo. 382 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: She likes to hack things. Um. But people behind fitbit 383 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: have drafted a concept called Project under Skin. And again, 384 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: this is a digital tattoo that would be implanted in 385 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: your hand and allow you to try trade data with handshake, 386 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: monitor your vital signs, or even unlock a door. Yes, 387 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: this is this is pretty pretty pretty amazing, especially when 388 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: you get into some of the even crazier details like 389 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: the even more high tech details for instance, which which 390 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: seems kind of remarkable that there would be more details 391 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: to this that that are stunning. But the team actually 392 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: envisions that the device will run off the body's own 393 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: electrochemical energy, so it's it's on all the time, Uh, 394 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: so you don't have to to worry about charging your 395 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: hand at night or anything of that nature. Like it's 396 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: essentially a cybernetic part of your body and a very 397 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: real and meaningful way, and and then allowing you to 398 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: interact with the cybernetic bodies of others. Like you you 399 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: shake somebody's hand, you end up exchanging the data. But 400 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: if it's just a fist pump. You might exchange different 401 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: data because they talk about it being there being a 402 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: sensor on the outer part of the hand and then 403 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: on the inner part because the idea of the inner 404 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: part of the hand is more more personal UM and 405 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 1: so that would be maybe be the connection point more 406 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: personal data for UH for the unlocking of doors, etcetera. 407 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: It's very odd to me because the implications of that 408 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: are pretty far reaching. You can extrapolate that out and 409 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: you could even sort of you could look at someone's 410 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: microbial colony on their hands, which could kind of give 411 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: you some sort of profile on them, especially since we 412 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: are beginning to know more and more about the micro biome. 413 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: But anyway, you know how I love that. Yeah, I 414 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: mean this technology plays directly into some of the the 415 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: technology who've discussed before for real time health monitoring and 416 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: how important that would be to h to just to 417 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: the overall health of the individual, being able to just 418 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: check in on in a real time basis to see 419 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: what's going on with conditions of the body and not 420 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: depending upon um annual or semi annual checkups to see 421 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: how much damage has been done by a condition. Right now, 422 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: Project underscan again this is more of an abstracognition of 423 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: what could be. Uh. There is an actual concrete device 424 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: in the works by material scientists On Rogers, who created 425 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: something called Epidural Electronics lovely um only because epidural and 426 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: you seem to associate with procedures that are medical. Um. 427 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: It sticks to your skin like a temporary tattoo, and 428 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: it can do anything from monitor your body's vital signals 429 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: to alerting you when you're starting to get a sunburn. 430 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: And Rogers and his company m C tent are currently 431 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: trying to figure out ways to get the electronics to 432 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: to communicate with other devices like smartphones, so that they 433 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: can start building apps for this. Yeah. I want to 434 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: also point out that New Deal Design people behind Underskin, 435 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: they believe that they can actually build this within the 436 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: next five years given the state of current electronics. And 437 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: they say that the the hard part is actually going 438 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: to be the flexible display that would be involved here, 439 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: rather than the sensor communication and implantation, or even that 440 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: that the means by which would siphon off your own 441 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: bodily energy. You know the thing I'm thinking about this 442 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: beyond like personal security risks here or that, what about 443 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: the inflammation site. And was this due to your immune 444 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: system to have this thing that's that's semi permanent in 445 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: your body? Yeah? And then can you overdo it? Do 446 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: you end up with you have to worry about having 447 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: too many um dermal or epidermal implants in your body? 448 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: Can you go too far with this? Yeah? And I 449 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: mean I really I keep thinking about this. It's gotta 450 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: be probably at the Nanni less scale really for your 451 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: body to give it a path. Yeah, and it and 452 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: it also comes down to the the power of the 453 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: tattoo itself. You know that you're making something a permanent 454 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: or at least semipermanent part of your body. And do 455 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: we really want to forge a permanent bond with our electronics? 456 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: Do you want to form a permanent bond with with 457 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: your iPhone? I mean, because even the iPhone is exciting 458 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: as that new iPhone is, you know, it's it's it's 459 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: gonna be obsolete and a number of years it's not 460 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: going to be the cutting edge thing. And this is 461 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: just a thing that goes in your pocket, not something 462 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: that is implanted in your skin. Moreover, if this really 463 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: takes off and and it's out there everywhere as ubiquitous. 464 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: Everybody has some sort of interactive tattoo. Does it make 465 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: tattoos less special? Does it make it kind of like 466 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: this boogie uh consumer driven thing that everybody is now using. 467 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: Is it's sort of like the I don't want to 468 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: say the Google glasses that have nothing against them, but 469 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, eventually, if everybody wears those and everybody has 470 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: this interactive tattoo, it loses some of the magic. Yeah. 471 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's gonna be interesting to see 472 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: how it how it goes. Maybe it'll just be something 473 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: we all get used to and we're all cool with. Yeah, 474 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: it's so cool because it offers lots of stuff, right, Yeah. 475 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: Or maybe it'll you know, it'll be the mark of 476 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: the Beast. I kept running across that when I was 477 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: reading these articles. Inevitably, somebody in the comics would say 478 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: that sounds like the mark of the Beast to make 479 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: you know what we know, what we need is an 480 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: interactive mark of the Beast tattoo. Right when that's animated, Yeah, 481 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: and then you can uh, and then it'll also there'll 482 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: be an app for it. You can actually you can 483 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: pull up on your phone to see who in your 484 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: area is uh the tune to the Anti Christ uh. 485 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: So you know you'll know who to hang out with. 486 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: Sore you go a sort of crash course and where 487 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: the technology is right now and where conceivably tattoos will 488 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: take us in the future. Indeed, all right, if you 489 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: guys want more, make sure to check us out Stuff 490 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: to Play your right dot com. That's right. 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