WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Good Old Days 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.319 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:11.200 the Bengals Booth podcast The You'll miss the magic of 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:16.919 these good old days. Addition, as I play ten teammates 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.319 in a hat with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham, The 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.439 Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by bud Light. Seltzer refreshed 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.240 the game and here's a quick reminder that you can 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:30.400 have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right to 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:34.400 your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitch, 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:38.479 your Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. It's the greatest 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:44.400 thing since anything your kid makes for you on Father's Day. 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:46.760 In addition to giving me a nice gift, my son 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.000 Sam made me a Father's Day card. He didn't need 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.840 to get me the gift. If you're a parent, you 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:56.360 know there's nothing better than receiving something that your child 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.920 makes specifically for you. When I was still a base 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.160 ball broadcaster and went on long road trips, my then 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.320 four year old son asked my wife Peg the following question. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.520 If I wrote Daddy a note, could we send it 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.960 to him on the road. She said sure, and I 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.959 received it at my hotel on the final day of 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:20.319 the team's road trip. At that point, Sam hadn't quite 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.440 grasped the concept of writing and sentences, so the note 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:27.000 basically looked like a long strand of letters. I grabbed 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:30.480 a pen and paper and was able to decipher it. 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:34.920 It read as follows, Hey Daddy, I am sending a 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.920 note to you. Do you know how many years old 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:43.000 yoda is? I will tell you nine hundred? Love Sam, 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.280 how is your trip? May you bring me a surprise? 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.720 That note is prominently displayed above my desk at home, 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.560 and if her house ever caught on fire, it might 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.040 be the first thing I would try to save. Like 0:01:56.200 --> 0:02:00.000 I said, there's nothing better than getting something homemade from 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:04.320 your kids. Now, let's get to this week's feature. Four 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.840 years ago, I started doing a weekly segment on the 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.400 radio during the baseball season called ten Teammates and a Hat. 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.960 I quickly realized I had stumbled into radio gold. Here's 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.080 how it works. I go through a player's bio and 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.040 write down the name of one teammate from every season 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.120 of his career on a little slip of paper. I 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.040 put those slips of paper in a baseball hat and 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:31.000 ask my guests to randomly select ten. He then shares 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:35.160 memories about each former teammate he draws. The segment works 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.840 best with players who have had long careers in a 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:41.880 wide variety of teammates, and my guests have included Johnny Bench, 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:45.320 Pete Rose, Joey Vado, and Dusty Baker, among others, and 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.639 they seem to enjoy it as much as I do. 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:52.480 Now it's time to bring the ten teammates feature to football. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.959 Since NFL careers don't typically last as long as Major 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.240 League Baseball careers, I've decided to go through a player's 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.880 bio and write down the names of two teammates from 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:07.240 each season he played up First a Bengal from nineteen 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.400 seventy four through nineteen eighty three and a member of 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:15.239 the New Jersey Generals for two seasons after that. Time 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.000 to play ten teammates in a hat with a great storyteller, 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.480 my broadcast partner, Dave Lappham. You played pro football for 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:25.240 twelve years, ten in the NFL, two in the USFL, 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.480 and I've written down the names of two teammates from 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.200 each of your twelve teams on little slips of paper 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.320 and put them in a baseball hat. You are going 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.640 to randomly pick out ten and share some stories. Are 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:38.840 you ready to play ten teammates in a hat? Ready 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:40.840 to rock and roll? Dan? Here we go, all right, 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:45.120 Here comes teammate number one with Dave Lappham Teammate number 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:52.760 one nineteen eighty Bengal Jim Breach, the all time leading 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:57.120 scorer for the Cincinnati Bengals. Kicker extraordinaire got him from 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.000 the Raiders. And the thing I remember most about Jim 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:05.440 Breach is all around athlete. I mean, this guy when 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:09.080 we played basketball in the wintertime and we'd go to 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.840 various high schools and we'd have a Bengal team that 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:16.160 would play faculty members or whatever. Breach was a stud. 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.200 Now he could play. He was a point guard in 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.560 basketball in high school. He played shortstop in baseball, and 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.720 he played quarterback in football. So Jim Breach wasn't your 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.279 you know, I had been exposed to horse movement from Germany. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:32.279 Who you know, soccer, not football, American football. He played 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.960 soccer and uh, I mean he was just a kicker. 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:40.320 Really didn't understand that much about football. Jim Breach could 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.240 have coached. I mean, Jim Breech knew the game and 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.920 he was a great teammate that way. And also when 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.839 we would do look teams, you know, people to line 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.000 up against the first team defense. You want to rest 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.680 your wide receivers. Jim Breech go out there and run 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.320 some routes, you know, and and and take his turn 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.039 in the in the in the look team against the 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.240 Bengals first team defense, getting ready for games. So, I mean, 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.200 Jim Breach was a very very valuable member of the 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.120 football team, no question about it, as well as Clotchman. 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:15.200 I mean, overtime nine for nine, never missed an overtime kick. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:19.040 Breach was money in the bank. We'll have to make 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.600 sure Jim Breach here's this segment because I think he 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.560 would like that description of his playing days. We move 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:28.960 on to teammate number two with Dave Lappin teammate number two, 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.680 it would be the seventy seven Bengals. Pat mcinnelly, Oh 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.760 my goodness, Where do I begin With Pat mcinelley. All 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.440 I can say is Pat mcinnelley and I used to 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.520 sit in my room or his room at training camp, 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.359 whoever had the better air conditioner, and just try and 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.960 kind of solve the world's problems. I mean, talk about 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:56.120 anything in everything but football. Because he always, you know, 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.000 got after me and made fun of me for not 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.440 going to Harvard. I get accepted and didn't go, and 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:05.000 of course Pat mcinally went and got himself a heck 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.080 of a degree and uh and he's still the only 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.280 guy that scored a perfect score on the Wonderlick test. 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:14.240 So Pat mcinally was just so intelligent. I mean, he could, 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:19.640 he could carry on a high level conversation about anything. Anything. 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.240 I think he should take Alex Trebeck's place, and I 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.440 think he'd be great on Jeffrey him and there's there's 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.599 not a category he would not be able to run 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.640 the table on. It's one of those kind of guys. 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.760 And the other thing, I mean, he'd sit in his 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.159 room and he wanted to learn how to play the guitar, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.279 self taught, and he just starts strumming a guitar and 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.240 all of a sudden, you know, from the beginning of 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.760 training camp to the end of training camp, he's writing songs. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:43.800 I mean, you know, that's how quick a study the 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:47.400 guy is on just about everything and anything. And the 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.680 thing about Pat mcinally, you know, like Jim Breech, he 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.800 was a great punter, Pro Bowl punter, but he was 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:57.359 an All American wide receiver at Harvard, and the story 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.279 obviously sticks out in my mind about him was when 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.240 Darden put the hit on him. Cleveland Browns We're playing 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.480 at the end of the season and he takes it, 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.120 catches the ball over the middle and Tom Darden just 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.600 puts a shot on him and lays him out. And 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.280 it's one of those deals where the Darrel Stanley incident 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.960 was not that far away, so we thought, man, we're 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:19.960 looking at another one of those kind of deals. And 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.800 he had traumatized and bruised his spinal column, so he 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.680 wasn't moving and we thought, oh, man, So they take 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.440 him off the field on a stretcher and he's in 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.800 the locker room. The doctors are examining him, and he 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.720 starts to get his sensation and feeling back. It's almost 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.080 like when your arm falls asleep. He had, you know, 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.960 like he had that bruising which kind of pinched nerves 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.559 and he had no feeling. But then it starts coming 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.679 back and he starts getting everything back, and he comes 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.000 back out in the field and Forest looks at him 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:49.640 and says, can you still punt? He goes I think, 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.560 So he goes out there and punts. We have an 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:55.040 injury at receiver, can you play? He catches a touchdown 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.920 passed in that game that is an unbelievable you know, 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:02.680 full layout catch, rolls over the body of a Cleveland 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.360 Brown to stay off the ground and scores a touchdown 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.600 a pass from Jack Thompson. Was like, oh my gosh. 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.200 And at that point Forrest greg was all in on 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:14.040 Pat mcinelly, all in when he was busting your chops 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.280 about not going to Harvard. Did you ever come back 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.200 and say, hey, the partying was much better at Syracuse? 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.680 I told him I went to the Harvard in New York, 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.640 you know, and uh yeah. But you know, his whole 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:32.000 thing was bop him the connections, thea lums and when 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.280 he started his column, of course that the column that 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.760 he turned into a book, but it syndicated column. You know, 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:42.679 Pat mcinelle's advice to kids. Every every newspaper that he 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.320 went to, there was a Harvard connection somewhere. He said, 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:49.000 it was unbelievable how big a net is cast by 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.520 the by the Harvard of lums and just about every business, 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.240 not just the United States, but internationally. And that's what 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.320 his big thing was. You dummy. You know, you could 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.360 have hooked yourself up big time, but it all works out. Everybody. 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.160 Everybody has their own story and the wrong way of 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.520 getting there. Yeah, you may have blown that, but we're 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.120 proud to have you as part of the Syracuse Mafia. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.319 Let's move on to former teammate number three with lap. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:18.559 Former teammate number three eighty one Bengals Chris Collinsworth. Chris Collinsworth, 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:22.600 Oh man, where do I begin with this guy? You know, 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:27.160 he comes in as a rookie, the second round pick, 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.080 the first round pick, David Verser wide receiver, double down 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.720 and go wide receiver in the second round as well, 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.560 and it ends up being Chris Collinsworth, who has an 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:40.160 unbelievably you know, stellar career, and he came to Cincinnati 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.720 and he was a golly shocks lge, you know kind 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:48.000 of guy. And Forrest greg had a great line about him. 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.760 He goes, Chris Collinsworth, country, you kidding me? The only 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:56.560 cotton he's picked us out of his navel. He goes, 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:00.640 Chris Collinsworth knows exactly what's going on and and exactly 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.319 what you're all about. And he said, this guy sees 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.480 it all and knows it all. I mean, Forrest Greg 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.160 had him, had him figured out pretty quickly, but just 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:12.120 an unbelievable personality. Um. And you know the thing about 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.079 Chris is he was he was a you know, state 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.440 champion sprinter and the track team, and when you watched 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.520 him run, it was all arms and legs and and 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.760 kind of frenzied. You know. It kind of looked like 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.760 kikobob Crane running a hundred yard dash or something. And 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.240 I remember Kenny Riley talking about it. He goes, Man, 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.880 I'm telling you lab, he goes. Collinsworth came came out 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.280 of his out of his two point stance at the 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:39.319 receiver position, and man, there's there's like appendages going everywhere. 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.240 He said. Next thing I know, he was right up 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.520 on my toes, he goes. I couldn't believe how fast 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.439 he was, you know, it was it was like the 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:49.200 steving how fast, how quickly closed space on me? And 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.240 once he got up in my toes, it was over. Man. 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:54.880 And I can't tell you how many defensive backs in 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:58.120 his rookie year. No way, this guy's that fast. You know, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.280 they'd see it on film, but it was like looking 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.800 at him in the fields like I can't believe it. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.560 And they would always, you know, not give him enough 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.840 credit for how quickly he could close space on defensive backs. 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.600 And uh, and he beat everybody deep. I mean Pro 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.240 Bowl is deep, beat everybody deep. And he was he 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.840 was physically tough too. You know you'd never think it, 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:20.320 but I mean Chris collins would have put up three 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.840 hundred fifteen pounds in the Brench bench press, you know, 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.360 and looking at him, be like, no way, but he was. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.880 He was strong. Um, you know, really good athlete. His 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:33.000 dad played on the Kentucky basketball team Reps Runts. Um. 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.840 He was. He was a gifted athlete and uh, you know, 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.800 obviously understood people. He had a great way with people. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.199 I mean, he just had just understood how to treat people. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:48.560 And very very popular teammate and of course has gone 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.400 on to be leon a legendary well after the game 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.160 of football was over, and again another guy all these 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.120 people were talking about, Paul Brown was always what are 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.400 you going to do for your life's work when football's done? 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.600 And these guys that were mentioning here and Chris Collinsworth 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.760 in particular, I know Paul Brown would be like, Wow, 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.679 that's what I'm talking about, you know, I want to 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:11.920 see you guys succeed just well more success after they 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.040 were playing days than they actually generated during their playing days. 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:18.360 That's what he was looking for. Three down, seven to go. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.400 We move on to former teammate number four, as we 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:26.120 played ten teammates in a hat with lap number four 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:32.920 the seventy six Bengals Bob Johnson. Bob Johnson was the 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.880 original Bengal. Bob Johnson jersey number fifty four is the 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:41.520 only one that's retired in Cincinnati Bengals history, and he 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.679 was the very first draft pick. And Paul Brown said 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.480 that besides the quarterback he handles the football every single 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:53.559 play the center quarterback. He believed in building a battery 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.440 in the center of quarterback positions were vitally important to 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.200 Paul Brown, and he wanted wanted to build it that 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.240 way and build his team kind of from the inside out. 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.000 So he, uh, he went and got the All American 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.360 out of Tennessee, Bob Johnson, who was, you know, just 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:11.600 a heck of a football player. And another case of 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:16.120 looking at Bob Johnson captain, you know, played at a 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:19.160 high level of football, unbelievable leader on and off the 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:23.480 football field, huge locker room presence respect around the National 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.319 Football League, not just by the Bengals, but all players 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.800 around the National Football League. And then he's gone into 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.800 the business world. And I worked with him when I 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:33.800 was a player in the off season and Imperial lead 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.960 heases and he purchased imperiallydhases from from Bob sticks at 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.800 us Shoe and put together an investment group in purchased 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.439 that and then built it and sold it, and his 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:48.080 bought and sold companies. Bob Johnson is an unbelievably successful 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:53.199 entrepreneurial businessman. And now his daughter's doing the same type 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.199 of thing. Bob's involved with his daughter as well in 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.760 companies and and it's it's an unbelievable story. Bob, Bob 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:04.400 is a very very astute businessman, and I think he 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:08.880 probably took a lot of the football practicality, you know, 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.120 the discipline and teamwork and all the concepts from the 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.200 football field of the business world. And I know he 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.400 did in a very very effective manner. Bob Johnson was 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:22.920 definitely a very very wise choice, a very successful choice 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.120 to start the franchise by Paul Brown, who obviously knew 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.800 what he was doing. No doubt about that time to 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:33.760 reach into the hat for former teammate number five seventy 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:39.320 eight Bengals Ken Anderson. Oh boy, what can I say 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.160 about my man ka? We roomed together for like eight 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:46.480 years and the most accurate pastor I've ever seen. And 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.360 the game against the Oilers when he completed twenty straight 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:53.320 it was that game comes to mind because you know, 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.360 it's almost like when a pitcher's pitching a no hitter, 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:56.960 you don't talk to him about it. You don't say 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.640 I don't think he's throwing an incompletion. I mean, guys 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.840 were like thinking and looking and no one was talking 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:04.480 to him. But you know, you just didn't want to 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.120 be the one to bring it up. But Isaac Curtis 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.880 made an unbelievable catch to keep the streak alive. And 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.680 you know, at that time, Kenny had the record twenty 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.720 straight completely in the same game, twenty straight completions in 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.040 the same game. But he would just remember at football 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.440 camps when he would just work out and you'd tell me, 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.920 you know, ball right shoulder, ball navals, I mean just 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:29.720 from like thirty yards he'd pinpointed like that. He was amazing, 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:33.720 unbelievable and it's it's basically a tragedy, I think, a travesty. 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:35.840 But he's not in the Hall of Fame. He's won 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.960 back to back passing titles in two different decades with 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.800 two different offensive coordinators, two different schemes. I mean, it's 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.040 it's amazing. No other quarterback in NFL history could say that. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.600 So when you do something like that, I think you know, 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.280 that's that's Hall of Fame worthy. And uh and Ken 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:58.200 Anderson was just amazing. He and Isaac Curtis looked up 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.320 on some of the most beautiful deep ball I think 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.800 I've ever seen in my life. To this day, they're 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:07.840 about as pretty as anything you want to see. And yeah, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.400 he was special. There's there's no question about it. And 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.280 people you can't underrate his athleticism. Mean, he ran a 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.080 four to six I mean year we went to the 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.280 Super Bowl the first time Super Bowl sixteen or second 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.560 leading rusher with like over four hudred yards rushing was 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.080 Ken Anderson high three something like that was around four 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.480 hundred yards rushing. And we just used to run a 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.880 naked bootleg and he'd have a run pass option off 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.600 the thing, and boy, when he saw the opportunity, he 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.440 tucked it and ran, and he could run. Kenny was 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.239 a great athlete. He went to Augustana on a basketball scholarship, 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.560 grew up with Danissell and they played basketball together in 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:43.200 high school. And obviously Kenny was a very very accomplished 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.640 basketball player. So that's what you find is a lot 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.080 of these great athletes, you know, obviously played more than 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.600 one sport well. But could go on and on about 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.520 my man k number fourteen in year program, number one 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.920 in your heart. All right, five down, five to go. 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:02.040 Here's former teammate number six with Dave Lappot eighty three Bengals, 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:06.600 Stanley Wilson. Wow, this one is ah, this is probably 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.399 the biggest tragedy that I you know, that I can 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.479 remember being a part of with respect to the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.199 And that's a Stanley Wilson. Because here's a guy that 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.560 came out of Oklahoma, had a great collegiate career, but 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:22.879 that's where his dependency on drugs started, you know, with 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.639 Barry Switzer and teammates at Oklahoma and that playing career. 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.639 But this guy, he was he was a great football player. 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:31.840 I mean he could he could do it all. You 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.960 talk about complete running back, could run the ball, very 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.520 very good catch of the football, and he would block 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.720 and that that was the big thing, you know with 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.359 Stanley Wilson, as well as playing special teams and uh, 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.639 you know, obviously the thing that comes to mind first 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:51.200 and foremost is in the Super Bowl eighty Super Bowl 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.440 twenty three in nineteen eighty eight, when you know, Sam 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.760 White and police Chief Whalen, who was working security for 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.600 the Bengals in that Super Bowl week, went into his 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.040 room and caught him in a you know, in a 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.560 drug and du stooper in the bathtub and and he 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.600 just you know, ran away and ended up getting suspended, 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.600 couldn't play in that football game, and sad the most 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:16.159 important game, you know, the biggest game of his life 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.840 was when he had the biggest problem trying to deal 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:24.720 with all the emotions of it and relapsed badly into 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.840 a huge stupor um. But and they missed him in 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:29.840 that football game. You know, he talked about it, the 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.400 injury to Tim Crumrye and there's a lot of things, 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.840 but that, the Stanley Wilson suspension mentally, you know, had 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.600 an impact on the football team. And then physically he 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:43.240 was a great blocker for Ikey Woods and they missed him, 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:44.520 you know, and he was a he was a great 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.720 special teams guy, you know, field position, dictating field position 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.040 and and things like that. So um, that was I 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.280 do remember when when he was having his battle. I 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.600 remember it was after the New England Patriots. The Bengal 0:18:56.680 --> 0:19:00.560 started six and oh one season and they lost the Patriots. 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.320 And I remember the only available scene in the bus 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.680 was next to Stanley Wilson. When I sat down next 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:07.720 to him, I said, you okay, and he kind of 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.239 looked at me, and because I thought, you know that 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:13.960 might be when you think about, well, the winning streets over, 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.840 you know, any reason that you might laughs, you know, 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:20.000 you're looking for patterns or whatever. And he looked at 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.679 me and water in his eyes, and he looked at 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.200 me and he said, it's the first thing I think 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.399 about when I wake up in the morning. It's what 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.080 I think about all day long, before my wife and kids. 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:31.840 It's the last thing I think about when I go 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.320 to bed at night. And just tears come start coming 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.920 out of his eyes. And I thought, boy, you know 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.920 that's that's obviously not good. And then that year ends 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.520 with him getting suspended in the Super Bowl just a tragedy. 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:48.280 Let's move on to former teammate number seven with lap. 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:56.960 Teammate number seven, seventy four Bengals, Mike Reid. Lord, have mercy. 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.240 There's never been a quickie human being. I mean, this 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:05.240 guy was so explosive, just unbelievable. He'd get in this 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:09.239 really odd looking frog type stance, you know, with a 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.960 lot of his weight back, and would just explode out 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:15.000 of the thing. It was like, Oh, I mean, unbelievable, 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:19.520 how much short space quickness this guy had. And man, 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:23.479 and just as a rookie, I'm trying to learn how 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:25.600 to pass protect and that's before you could use your hands, 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:27.720 extend your arms and use your hands. You had to 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.640 keep your hands in by your chest and and it's 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:32.879 it's like, I'm like, I don't know if I'm going 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.040 to be able to block this guy. And every time 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.160 I made contact with him, I felt like I hate 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.440 Nolan Ryan's fastball. He was like, man, this is unbelievable. 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.439 But he was like that with Everybody would have a 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:47.160 brutal time blocking him. I remember against the Kansas City Chiefs, 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.960 a Hall of Famer Jim Tier who was playing guard 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:54.800 at the time, and Mike Red had five sacks against 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:57.600 them and could have had more. I was like just 0:20:57.680 --> 0:20:59.640 beating him like a drum and I'm thinking, oh, man, 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.320 I know exactly what's going through your mind right now. 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:08.400 He was just unbelievably he had. He was not overpowering 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.840 in terms of like not a big body mask He's 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.919 maybe two hundred and fifty pounds, but man, just generates 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:20.000 such an explosive movement. Man, he was just so gifted 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:23.160 that way and the quickness. Um plus you know, such 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:27.160 a talented guy. Concert pianist who played in the Cincinnati Symphony. 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.760 I mean, I mean you'd go into uh, we'd be 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:33.639 in a hotel and if there was a piano around 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:35.840 the area where we'd be going for pregame meal or 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.240 snacks or whatever, he'd sit down and start banging out 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:41.280 like almost a private concert at the piano. It's unbelievably 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:46.159 talented dude, and now has written hit songs for you know, 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.000 a lot of different artists, well known artists, and he's 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:52.440 a he's a Hall of famer, you know down in Nashville. 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:56.080 It's it's incredible what he's done. Another case of Paul 0:21:56.119 --> 0:22:00.320 Brown saying this this guy, you know, football was only 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:03.119