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Speaker 1: the show. Steve Tasker, John Murphy Comedy Alive from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. It's One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive,

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Speaker 1: right next door to the new Airfield. We'll say this.

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Speaker 1: We are not the hot mess we usually are. We

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Speaker 1: got a big show today, big show, big guests today, um,

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Speaker 1: and a lot to talk about, including the Bills getting

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Speaker 1: set to play, um, the Tennessee Titans. I'll tell you this, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I watched the Tennessee the entire game. Uh, last week's

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Speaker 1: Ai No, no, no, did I say yeah Philly Yo?

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Speaker 1: Is that Tennessee? Yeah? Yeah, Um. But before we get

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Speaker 1: to that, we should mention and we're excited about this.

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Speaker 1: Steve is a season ticket older. I'm a partial season

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Speaker 1: ticket older. Now it is day one of the hockey

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Speaker 1: season and you are going tonight and you're pretty pop Yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: it's great. No, I uh, yeah, I am, and I can't.

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Speaker 1: I am excited about it. We we got a bunch

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Speaker 1: you're one of them. I'm one of the guys. Now

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Speaker 1: you're one of the group. And uh, we always my

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Speaker 1: I was there, I'm one of the guys. Had a

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Speaker 1: and you get a chance to see it. And last

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Speaker 1: I am you know Oliver optimism, right, I am going,

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Speaker 1: I am all about it. Here we go, this is it,

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Speaker 1: and from the opening day last year it was like, wow, bad.

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Speaker 1: We were on the hook for forty one more games

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Speaker 1: This year though, it gonna be different. It's gonna be different.

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Speaker 1: You would think Murphy's back in the house. I'm back

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Speaker 1: you're giving him a chance. I'm a Sabers, a partial Sabers.

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Speaker 1: He's dipping your toe back in the water. And for

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Speaker 1: good reason. It's been You've made your point, and now

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Speaker 1: it's time to say, Okay, you start to, you know,

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Speaker 1: make amends. Let them make amends. Yeah, I would put

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Speaker 1: They've got to make amends. Yeah, they've got to get better.

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Speaker 1: They've got to get better. And it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching tonight and I'm gonna be wearing

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Speaker 1: an Instigator sweatshirt. There you go. Not this pushing the

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Speaker 1: Instigator sweat I'm gonna wear tonight. Excellent, Steve, going to

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Speaker 1: the Sabers. We're gonna talk about the Bills today in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. We've got a great guest lineup today. Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps you've heard of him, Hall of Fame quarterback. He's

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Speaker 1: Josh Challens and if you've ever if you've listening, if

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Speaker 1: Orlovsky is a friend of ours. He put out a

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Speaker 1: one today and at two o'clock Bill's rookie safety Siron Neil,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Bills insider from Buffalo Bills dot Com, standingby

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Speaker 1: inside the field house where today's practice is just underway.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Brownie, thanks for joining us. How are you today?

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Speaker 1: Doing good? Doing good? Yeah, inside rainy wet field. Probably

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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of experience Raffael Bush being out.

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Speaker 1: look around the league, you'll you'll see even as the Bills,

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Speaker 1: going into Week four or Week five, because you know,

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Speaker 1: those first two games of the Buffalo Bill season and

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Speaker 1: it was a dark place. I mean, they didn't look

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Speaker 1: good on offense, didn't look good on defense. The Week

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Speaker 1: with their game plan, and also, I think more importantly

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Speaker 1: they're still trying to find it here in Buffalo. So

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Speaker 1: hopefully this week we see strides in that area where

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Speaker 1: of put their stamp, you know, on what they're going

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Speaker 1: to be offensively. Chris Brown, Bills Inside and Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: Dot Com. Thank you, Chris, we'll talk to you again.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Got guys Chris Brown joining us from

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Speaker 1: Bill's practice inside the ad Pro Sports Training Center. John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here inside our studio right next door to

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Speaker 1: getting ready to go and to summarize with Chris said,

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Speaker 1: it's the safety position that is I guess most concerned now.

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Speaker 1: Neither Micah Hyde nor his backup Raphael Bush looked like

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Speaker 1: they're going to be able to participate today. So who knows.

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Speaker 1: There might be a role for Sir and Neil Right

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Speaker 1: you were him, Hey, siran Neil. Earlier today we're talking

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Speaker 1: about Serrand as a guest. He said, this guy could

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Speaker 1: play this week, hasn't played much yet he plays. He

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Speaker 1: plays two last week and then two last week, and

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Speaker 1: and that at that play. But I don't know if

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Speaker 1: looks like we may find out how Serrand Neil plays

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Speaker 1: been used as an obviously as a special teams guy

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Speaker 1: up until this point. Um, welcome to the show. By

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Speaker 1: the way, John Murphy and Steve Tasker here, Um, we

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Speaker 1: I want to introduce you to our topic of the day,

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Speaker 1: and it's all the result of something that Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: We both were like, what and so let's play it

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Speaker 1: for you again. Sean McDermott was asked about culture, the

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Speaker 1: importance of culture on the team, and where that ranks

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Speaker 1: among his considerations. Here's what the head coach of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills had to say yesterday. We're trying to develop

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Speaker 1: a culture here and the culture to meet Trump's strategy.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's what I believe in wholeheartedly and doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean we have choir boys. It means we've got guys

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Speaker 1: that love football and do the things the right way

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Speaker 1: for the most part. We heard that Steve and I

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Speaker 1: big statement. It is culture to me right, strategy right,

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Speaker 1: and that's why we're got to get with you. It

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Speaker 1: is our Twitter poll today basically asking what you think

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Speaker 1: of that statement. Do you agree with it? And maybe

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Speaker 1: you can amplify in that a little bit. Our Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll is up, it's been up for a while already

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Speaker 1: getting a massive, pretty good response from respondents. Our Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: Here it is and it's based on what Seoun McDermot said.

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Speaker 1: What is most important to have success in the NFL

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Speaker 1: is it culture? Team culture. As mcdermots just outlined. Is

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Speaker 1: it strategy, is it talent or something else? Right now

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, with more than seven hundred fifty votes, in

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Speaker 1: sixty eight percent of me, more than two thirds of

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Speaker 1: you say it is talent, seventeen percent say it is strategy,

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Speaker 1: twelve percent say it is culture, three percent say something else.

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Speaker 1: Even the respondents ranked strategy ahead of culture. I disagree

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Speaker 1: with that, Steve. I think talent's number one. Now there

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Speaker 1: are those, there are football people, people in the league.

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Speaker 1: I've heard people in this building over the years say

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Speaker 1: not agreeing with that, but I do think talent is

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Speaker 1: most important. But I put culture second, Like, what sort

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Speaker 1: of a team do you have? What sort of a

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Speaker 1: team culture do you have? And McDermott was took. I

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Speaker 1: thought went to great pains to say, we're not looking

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Speaker 1: rank them talent. I would put culture of fairly close second,

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Speaker 1: and then strategy schemes. What about you? Well, from my

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Speaker 1: course of the years and the teams that I was on,

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Speaker 1: the teams that I've watched here in Buffalo, the teams

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Speaker 1: that I've covered around the league. Here's the thing I

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Speaker 1: get this, the fact that fans think talent trumps everything.

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Speaker 1: My perspective is, talent is a given. And all these

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Speaker 1: guys that get drafted number one over all, these guys

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Speaker 1: that are you know, I've seen so many great players

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Speaker 1: who are so talented they can't play. They can't play.

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Speaker 1: Talent is a given. Every team in the NFL, all

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Speaker 1: thirty two of them, from the oh and sixteen Cleveland

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Speaker 1: a year ago, and everybody this year. In that same mix.

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Speaker 1: The difference between the talent on the best players and

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Speaker 1: talent level on the worst teams is negligible, negligible, negligible, negligible.

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Speaker 1: It's almost non existent. It just happens at different positions.

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Speaker 1: Now you can say you can't see Odell Beckham's so great, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's great. That's one player on a team of fifty

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Speaker 1: three guys. The other teams a bunch of guys that

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Speaker 1: A quarterback, a talented quarterback, seems to make his team

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Speaker 1: way better and certainly does make his team way better

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Speaker 1: than a right guard does, no question about it. But

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Speaker 1: talent for me is a given. You can't get in

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Speaker 1: the door without you can't get a contract, you can't

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Speaker 1: get into training camp, and you certainly never make the

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Speaker 1: fifty three man roster unless you've got talent. But everybody

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the same talent. It's every team doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the same amount of talent or in the right positions.

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Speaker 1: The positions, no, but the amount absolutely, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: every team has the same amount of talent. They draft

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Speaker 1: from the same pool of players. Better, they draft from

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Speaker 1: the same pool of waiver players. They turn at the

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Speaker 1: bottom of their roster just like every other. Every team

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Speaker 1: turns the bottom of their roster, Every team trades and

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Speaker 1: and every team gets put If they have a great year,

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Speaker 1: they get put at the bottom of the pecking order

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Speaker 1: that the waiver wire claims you just said in week six,

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Speaker 1: it changes to this year's record. Everybody is in the

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Speaker 1: same pool of talent, and they pick from the same players.

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Speaker 1: And you saw it. But today, he said, today the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: the same guy. Yeah, they all pick from the same player.

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Speaker 1: They all pick from the same pool. The talent across

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Speaker 1: the league is a level playing field. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I agree. We got to talk. You can. You

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Speaker 1: can have a guy jump out he's a star while

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Speaker 1: you know what, there's a lot of things that go

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Speaker 1: into that. And then the thing that makes the biggest

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Speaker 1: or other is culture. And I'll give you an example

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Speaker 1: of it. Jared Goff. One year he's a bust. The

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Speaker 1: next year he's MVP. You know what changed, the coaching

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Speaker 1: and the talent and the not the talent, the coaching

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Speaker 1: and the culture. I would say we gotta get to

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Speaker 1: I would I'm gonna argue that point because I would

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Speaker 1: think Goff would be an example of how strategy scheme

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Speaker 1: makes a difference in the player's performance. I think in

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Speaker 1: his case in particular, it does. That's an intelligent response.

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Speaker 1: It does. Poop, I'm exaggerating. I don't think you're right,

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Speaker 1: talent and coaching all him different. That's culture now that scheme. No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got a lot to talk about. We got Kurt

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Speaker 1: Warner coming up next. Come on back for that. The

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback joined us to talk about this issue.

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Speaker 1: You're getting ready for hockey, Kurt Warner. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Drop one goes live from One Wheels Drive

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Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to the show,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One Bills Live from One Bills Drive.

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Speaker 1: The Bills out inside the field house, practicing indoors today

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Speaker 1: with the rain in the forecast today and even on

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Speaker 1: Sunday as well. Joining us right now in the subway.

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Speaker 1: First take highline. We are honored to have a Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Famer on the line with us, a

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Speaker 1: former NFL quarterback for twelve season, two time Most Valuable

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Speaker 1: Player in the National Football League, MVP in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champion, and a Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Happy to half quarterback Kurt Warner on the line. Also

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Speaker 1: with NFL Network, Kurt, John Murphy and Steve Tasker, him

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Speaker 1: and Buffalo. We appreciate it. Thanks for coming on, No problem,

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Speaker 1: good good to talk together. You were at the top

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Speaker 1: of our mind the other day when we started we

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Speaker 1: read the Twitter exchange between you and another guy we liked,

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Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky. Pretty high level quarterbacking debate there. Can you

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Speaker 1: tell us what you saw from Josh Allen and what

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Speaker 1: your debate was with the Dan Orlovsky piece. Well, the

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Speaker 1: debate was just on a blitz that they saw from

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Speaker 1: the Packers last week. And you know, Dan thought that

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Speaker 1: Josh should have had his eyes to the left. When

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Speaker 1: Josh had his eyes to the right, I personally felt

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Speaker 1: he should have had his eyes to the right. And

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Speaker 1: to try to simplify it as best you can, it

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Speaker 1: was a five man protection where the back was free

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Speaker 1: releasing off to Josh's right. The Packers had six guys,

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Speaker 1: six guys in the immediate box that were a threat

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Speaker 1: to rush at that particular time, and so due to

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Speaker 1: the guys that were lined up over there didn't come,

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Speaker 1: coming free. And because that was the immediate threat for Josh,

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Speaker 1: he had to look that way first to see if

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Speaker 1: somebody was coming free, and then he had to dump

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Speaker 1: bringing an unorthodox, unconventional blitz to the left with a

640
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Speaker 1: guy off the slot who ended up getting to Josh.

641
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Speaker 1: And so it was just a it was a high

642
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 1: level blitz. You're talking about a young quarterback, and so

643
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: you basically gave him issues on both sides of the ball.

644
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: You told them your initial hot is right, and then

645
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: you'll have some kind of sighted jest or possible hot

646
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: to your left hand side too, And that's difficult for

647
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Speaker 1: any quarterback to be able to handle, especially a rookie

648
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: quarterback that's making just his third start. And because it

649
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: was a team that does some great zone blitzing that

650
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: they did a great job at disguising it to the

651
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: right and then bringing it to the left, and I just,

652
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, I just thought it was one of those

653
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: situations where Josh did what he was supposed to do. Yeah,

654
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: if he could have seen both sides and got back

655
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: to the other side, we'd be sitting here going wow.

656
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's pretty impressive for a rookie quarterback

657
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: or any quarterback. But the debate was simply just that

658
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: I thought Josh did. But more important I Josh did

659
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: exactly what I would have done in that situation. And

660
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: I always prided myself on seeing an understanding protections and

661
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: where to go and how to attack him. But he

662
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: did exactly what I would have done in that situation. Yeah, Kurt,

663
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about what a realistic what

664
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Speaker 1: are the realistic expectations on for Josh Allen, but also

665
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Josh Rosen, Lamar Jackson. What are

666
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: some realistic expectations. I know there's no pat answer for

667
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: every quarterback and how every quarterback should be handled as

668
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: a rookie, but what are realistic expectations for a team

669
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: and maybe even the fans. Well, I mean I think

670
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, as you said, it's always hard because each

671
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: guy is different. What are their strengths coming in? You know,

672
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: and we'll keep it in Buffalo. With Josh, I think

673
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: everybody felt he was maybe the biggest project of those

674
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: guys drafted early, big arm, big upside, great kid, all

675
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: the potential, but just as far as playing the game

676
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: and learning the game and seeing things, probably the biggest

677
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: project of all of them. So I think you always

678
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: have to weigh realistic expectations with who the guy was

679
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: when you brought him in, and you know, so with Josh,

680
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot of good things. When I watched

681
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: Josh play, I see when he knows where to go

682
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: with the football, he's good, he rips it, he throws

683
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: the ball, he throws with confidence. His biggest thing to

684
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: me right now is just understanding, whether that's you know,

685
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: gathering the whole playbook that they have, or being able

686
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: to see more pro defenses and understand what he's seeing

687
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: so he can get through his progressions and get to

688
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: the right guy. I think that's his biggest stumbling point

689
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: right now. And once again, I think that was what

690
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: I thought, coming in anyways, would be the biggest transition

691
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: for him, was to continually learn how to see things,

692
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: how to get the ball out on time, and those

693
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: types of things you know, and then there's other guys

694
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: that through the ball more and we're in different kinds

695
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: of systems that your expectation is in certain areas, you

696
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: expect them to do a little bit better earlier. And

697
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 1: then the question simply becomes who's got the biggest upside

698
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: and who's got the highest ceiling, which is what we

699
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: always use. We always use that term, he's got a

700
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: high ceiling. I don't think any of us know any

701
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: of these guys ceilings until they get there. We have

702
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: no idea what that looks like. We just want to project,

703
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: and that really is what it comes down to. The

704
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: guys that may be farther behind early, can they catch

705
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: up in the growth of playing the quarterback position, and

706
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: then does their physical ability outweigh that of one of

707
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: those other guys, So at the end of the day,

708
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: they're performing at a higher level than some of those

709
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: guys that they were drafted with. And we don't really

710
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: know the answer to that, and that's why it's so intriguing.

711
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: You know who goes number one, and you know who's

712
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: good early, but that's you know, that success to sustain itself,

713
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, long term, and that's the fun part of it.

714
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: But I think we've seen some good things already from

715
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: all of these young quarterbacks, but we've also seen some

716
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: struggles and some things that they've missed as well. And

717
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: so you know, for me, as a quarterback fan, I'm

718
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: just going to continue to watch and see who can

719
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: really come into their own and use whatever physical skills

720
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: they have to become a great quarterback. Because we know,

721
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: very seldom do you draft four guys high do all

722
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: four of them turn out to be great quarterbacks. So

723
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Speaker 1: I'm intrigued to see how many of this group can be.

724
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: We're on the line with Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt

725
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: Warner from the NFL Network in it's hard to imagine

726
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: more different ways to enter the league than you and

727
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. For example, Kurt, I mean, you played in Europe,

728
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: you played an arena football, You bounce around a little

729
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: bit or a backup for a while. Josh Allen comes

730
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: in and he's thrown in there in halftime of his

731
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: first NFL game. So I guess my question is we wait, right,

732
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: we wait before we make judgments about Josh Allen. Right,

733
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: we wait until we see what he's really all about.

734
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: And it may take some time. Is that correct? Yeah.

735
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean nobody knows any quarterback and how good they're

736
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: going to be until I say, about five years down

737
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: the road. I mean, look a look at some of

738
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: the great Look at Tom Brady when he came in.

739
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: I know, they won the Super Bowl his first year starting,

740
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: but he wasn't Tom Brady that first year, you know,

741
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: he more managed things. I think he threw one touchdown

742
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: pass in the entire postseason that year and they won

743
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. So we have to think back to

744
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: some of these other guys. You know, Peyton Manning, I

745
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: think suit through the record for most interceptions in a

746
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: season his rookie year and he becomes one of the

747
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: greatest to ever play the game. So everything is a process.

748
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: I've seen guys come out of college and from day

749
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: one until the day they retired, were the exact same quarterback.

750
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: Never got better, you know, and it never never improved.

751
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: Never you know their ceiling. They must have hit their

752
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: ceiling in college because that's where they were their entire career.

753
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: And I've seen other guys that come in out of

754
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: college and they're good quarterbacks, and they get better and

755
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: better and better and better every single year and ultimately

756
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: become great quarterbacks. So we have no idea right now

757
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: who these guys are going to end up being. And

758
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: you know that to me is always the hardest part,

759
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: because you bring these guys into be the savior of

760
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: a franchise and you expect them to do that overnight,

761
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: and it just doesn't work like that. Yeah, you're right, Kurt,

762
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: And we're having this huge debate I'm here in Buffalo

763
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: about Sean McDermott came out and said yesterday that he

764
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: believes cultured Trump's strategy and which ignited this debate about

765
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: what is most important? Is it cult, is it strategy,

766
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: is it talent, or is it something else? And I

767
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: was going to ask you open it up to you,

768
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about the difference or importance between

769
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: strategy and cult or culture or talent? You know, talk

770
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, what is your opinion about

771
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: what's the most important? Is it culture, is it strategy,

772
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: or is it talent? Well, let's let me let's just

773
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: lay it out there that all of it's important. You know,

774
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, successful teams have all

775
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: of it to some degree. But I would agree with

776
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 1: coach I believe culture and belief, and when you walk

777
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: in the building or when you go out to practice

778
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 1: that there's a way that you do things that sets

779
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: the tone for everything that happens in the organization. You know,

780
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: it can start from the top, and what an organization

781
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: or an owner does to give your team every chance

782
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: to win, it starts with your leaders setting a tone

783
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: and setting a belief and how you're going to do

784
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: things and what is going to be the result of that,

785
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: you know. And I was in a couple of different places,

786
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, when I went to Saint Louis. My first

787
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: year was the year before I ended up starting, was

788
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, and I'll never forget we had a

789
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: meeting in the middle of that year in ninety eight

790
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: where players thought the practices were too hard, and we

791
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: had a player's only meeting, and then we brought coach

792
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: burmil down into that meeting, and it was like a

793
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: shouting match back and forth between what we should be

794
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: doing and what we're doing. And I'm just shaking my head, going,

795
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I waited this long to get to

796
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: the NFL, and this is what the NFL is that

797
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: everybody's arguing complaining because it's too hard, or it's this

798
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: or that. Why don't we just go out and play

799
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: and practice to be great? We changed that the next year.

800
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: A lot of new coaches were brought in, a lot

801
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: of players were moved out, and new players were brought in,

802
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: and the culture of that place changed. When you bring

803
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: in guys like Marshall Falk and you have guys like

804
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: Isaac Bruce Tory Holt Is joined to the mix, and

805
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: you've got these guys that play and practice at a

806
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: different level. And when your best players practice at a

807
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: particular level, everyone else has to fall into with that.

808
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: You know that they've got to go okay, okay, that

809
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: Marshall Fault busting his button, practicing every single day and

810
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: every rep looks like he's in a game. Well, if

811
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm the young guy, I better do that as well.

812
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: And it carries over to the practice field, and you know,

813
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: and it went to Arizona and it was the same way.

814
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: We had great players that you know, kind of had

815
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: the mindset, well, you know, I'm good enough, why don't

816
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: you worry about everyone else first? And then once they

817
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: get kind of get to my level, then we can

818
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: address where I'm at and so I'm a firm believer

819
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: that that culture and believing you can win, and believing

820
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: that every practice and every meeting and everything you do,

821
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: whether it's in the facility or outside of the facility,

822
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: carries over to how you do your job and how

823
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: you approach you know, the whole thing in the NFL.

824
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: And then, of course you need the talent, because everybody's

825
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: got talent. You need a strategy that's good to put

826
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: your players in good positions to win. Um. But I

827
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: am a firm believer that that culture is where a

828
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: lot of it starts. I'm sitting here doing the championship

829
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: boxing match, hends together over my head, shaking him. Kurt,

830
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: I agree with you two thousand percent. You're right. Hey, Kurt,

831
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: we got to ask you about your son Kade at Nebraska.

832
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: It looks like he's jumping into the family business and

833
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: he's kind of final when you're beat, he's he's a

834
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: walk on at Nebraska. Was in the starting lineup now,

835
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: right or wide receiver? Tell us about him? Yeah, it's

836
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: been fun to watch him. You know, he was he

837
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: was a record holder here in Arizona, caught two hundred

838
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: and forty one passes in high school and um, you know,

839
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: set all the records here for eleven man football and

840
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: was not recruited, uh, you know, scholarship wise by anybody,

841
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: and um, you know, so obviously going through that process,

842
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: he was very disappointed because he had such a good

843
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: high school career and wanted to continue playing, and he

844
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: wanted to play at the highest level. You know, he

845
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: wanted to play in an envite erment, you know, like

846
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: the Big Ten. So you know, he went on some

847
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: visits to ASU and to Iowa, uh and to Nebraska,

848
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, ended up feeling like Nebraska based

849
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: on the coaching staff there was most excited about him. Um,

850
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: and if they'd have found him earlier, would maybe would

851
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: have given him a scholarship. So he ended up going

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Speaker 1: there as a walk on. Then they ended up after

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Speaker 1: his first year changing coaching staff. Scott Frost came in

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Speaker 1: from ucf M. So he was, you know, kind of

855
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Speaker 1: in that mode where I don't really know where I

856
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: fit in, new offense, new coaches that don't know anything

857
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Speaker 1: about me. I'm a walk on. And they kin got

858
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Speaker 1: off to some early struggles there under coach Frost, and

859
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Speaker 1: about a week ago they weren't having a lot of

860
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Speaker 1: success at their their wide receiver position outside of a

861
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Speaker 1: couple of the All Americans they have, and so they

862
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Speaker 1: they opened it up and said, everybody's going to get

863
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to compete for this. We're going to grade

864
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Speaker 1: every single wide receiver on everything they do all week long,

865
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Speaker 1: and the guys that performed the best ball play And

866
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Speaker 1: he went out and battled and earned the spot to

867
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Speaker 1: start his first game last year as a redshirt freshman

868
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Speaker 1: walk on at the University of Nebraska and the Big Ten.

869
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Speaker 1: Got his first start last week and you know, made

870
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Speaker 1: a couple of catches and it was it was awesome

871
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Speaker 1: day for our family, even though the game didn't play

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Speaker 1: out like we wanted it to on the field, but

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Speaker 1: you know, just it's cool to see, you know that

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Speaker 1: I have kind of the crazy story that I have

875
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Speaker 1: and sitting on the bench in college and not getting

876
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Speaker 1: highly recruited and to watch my son go that same

877
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Speaker 1: route and some of the frustrations that he dealt with,

878
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Speaker 1: but he didn't let it the term. It didn't let

879
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Speaker 1: it stop him from working and he's worked his butt

880
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Speaker 1: off and you know a lot earlier than I think

881
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Speaker 1: anybody expected. He found himself starting in a big ten

882
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: game and he played very well. And I think it's

883
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Speaker 1: only going to get better from here. So great young man.

884
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Speaker 1: And I think that's a sign of what he did

885
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Speaker 1: and how he kept his head down and didn't let

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Speaker 1: anything discourage him. So it's cool and he'll be getting

887
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: the start again. From what I understand this, we give consent. Great, Hey, Kurt,

888
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: thanks for this. We are honored to have you on

889
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: the show. Thank you very much. Maybe we can do

890
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: it again sometime. Sounds great, guys, look forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Kurt Warner, NFL Hall of Famer, Pro Football Hall

892
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Speaker 1: of Famer, a two time NFL Most Valuable Player, won

893
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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl Most Valuable Player of the Super Bowl. Now,

894
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Speaker 1: of course on NFL Network, Steve and I back to

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Speaker 1: discuss in a moment. You're welcome to join us eight

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Speaker 1: O three oh five fifty or toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty one. Doll's Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio one A Man One of Goals Live

900
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Speaker 1: from One of Doll's Drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasker or

901
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: thanks again to Kurt Warner for joining us on the

902
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Speaker 1: Subway Fresh State Hotline presented by Subway Restaurants, Proud of Me,

903
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: locally owned and operator. He was great, Kurt Warner. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, man, here was the reason why he's one

905
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Speaker 1: of my favorite Steve as a player and as a

906
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Speaker 1: as a commentator and an announcer. I like the way

907
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: he thinks, and I like what he said about patience

908
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks, not just Josh, all of these guys. He

909
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: said five years before you know how quarterback is. Nobody

910
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: wants to wait that long, but oh my gosh, and

911
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: this day and age, I don't want to make five minutes. Yeah,

912
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Speaker 1: let alone five years. It was great to have Kurt

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Speaker 1: Warner around. And he's a great, great guy. I've worked

914
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Speaker 1: with him on radio, and he's been in the booth

915
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Speaker 1: for us some Monday night games that I've been on

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Speaker 1: the side. He's just a great guy to work with, tremendous,

917
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: tremendous human. Das for joining us and what and we

918
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Speaker 1: talked at the very beginning of our segment with him

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Speaker 1: about his debate with Dan Orlovsky. Dan's a great guy

920
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: as well, and that gives you some insight as to

921
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Speaker 1: how complicated football is at the NFL level, quarterback game

922
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: especial quarterbacking especially, and it really was eye opening for

923
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people who chimed in on Twitter because

924
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: to hear those guys talk about what a quarterback has

925
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: to think about is amazing and have them disagree about

926
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Speaker 1: what he should have been doing it could have been doing.

927
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Speaker 1: Is gives you an idea. Yeah, what we're talking about.

928
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: Our Twitter poll today is interesting and Kurt Warner got

929
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Speaker 1: involved in this a little bit. We will get involved

930
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: in it pretty heavily. Is the show moves along. We

931
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Speaker 1: have guests coming up after the top of the hour.

932
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: But our question what's the most what is most important

933
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Speaker 1: to have success in the NFL? We offer you culture, strategy,

934
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: talent or something else. Yesterday Sean McDermott said to him

935
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Speaker 1: culture Trump's strategy. What do you think of that? Eight

936
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Speaker 1: h three oh five fifty and toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight by fifty two five fifty. On the Twitter poll,

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Speaker 1: two thirds of you say talent is most important, eighteen

939
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: percent say strategy, twelve percent culture, three percent other. What

940
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: do you gets? We've heard from a bunch of fans

941
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Speaker 1: and I don't know how many people have chimed in?

942
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: Does it tell us thirteen hundred? All right, so thirteen

943
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Speaker 1: hundred people, thirteen hundred of them are all fans who

944
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: never played in the NFL. Two guys who have played

945
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: in the NFL, me and Kurt Warren are both say

946
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's culture. Everybody else thinks first one

947
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: off the tweet sheet, Brett said at Bressay's culture doesn't

948
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Speaker 1: win games. It might prevent some un sportsmanlike conduct penalties

949
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Speaker 1: or something, but it doesn't put points up The Bills went.

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Speaker 1: Let me just point out if the Bills went to

951
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Speaker 1: the playoffs last year on culture and virtually culture alone.

952
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: A guy named Jello, who didn't play in the NFL

953
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Speaker 1: but says, I've played football with good guys. I've played

954
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: football with people who understand the game. I've also played

955
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: football with guys I dislike, but we're amazing players. Give

956
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: me great players. A head coach's main job is managing

957
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: your talent and making sure they play together. So he's

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00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: I guess he's crediting a head coach with culture. I

959
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: don't know, but he didn't play football in the NFL

960
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: because he's I don't know what he's saying he's played

961
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Speaker 1: football with all kinds of guys, give him great players. Yeah,

962
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: no kidding. So are you saying we should just take

963
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: a vote of people who played in the NFL time,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying because they didn't play in the NFL, they

965
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Speaker 1: didn't understand how it is to play on a team

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00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: where your guys are across the board are just about

967
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: as talented as the other teams players. And it doesn't

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks aside a quarterbacks included. I mean, they may have

969
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: a better quarterback than you. That's great, doesn't mean you can.

970
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you're gonna put points up. It doesn't

971
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Speaker 1: mean you're gonna be your receivers are gonna play as good,

972
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: or your offensive line is gonna play as good as

973
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: their defensive line. I mean, there's just the talent level

974
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL is a given, and it is so

975
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: the difference is so negligible that it ceases to be

976
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: an issue. I disagree with that, but I don't have

977
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Speaker 1: time to disagree in depth right here. I do want

978
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Speaker 1: to listen to this Sean McDermott from yesterday, the head

979
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: coach talked about because I do think like the first

980
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: guy on the tweet sheet talked about it might prevent

981
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: some penalties or something that's not what culture is. In fact,

982
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: talking about McDermott explained a little bit more what he

983
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: meant by culture. Let's listen and Sean McDermott yesterday he

984
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: said to him culture Trump's strategy, and he went on

985
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: to talk about what he thinks a team culture is.

986
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: Here's Sean McDermott from yesterday. We're trying to build something

987
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: that does take time, but overall, guy's got to be

988
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: committed to the process and that means staying mentally tough

989
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: in moments like this where we start a season one

990
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: and three and hasn't always been easy. Right, But I've

991
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: been through this before. I can tell him that. I'm

992
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: looking at Vic right, here's smiling at me. He's been

993
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: through it before. Those of us that have been around

994
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: this league long enough. I've been through it before. And

995
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: if you do things the right way, and you continue

996
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: to build it the right way for long term success,

997
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: that you make the right decisions, those things will take

998
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: care of themselves. And again he kind of answered the

999
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: issue what is culture, but he mentioned when you're on it,

1000
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: I believe right now that culture is being tested right

1001
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: because they've had a rough patch here. I believe when

1002
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: they were own two after losing badly to Baltimore and

1003
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: the Chargers, I think culture was the main reason why

1004
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: they competed so well and won that game at Minnesota

1005
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, because they didn't get distracted

1006
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: by everything that was being said and the down feelings.

1007
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: I think they're kind of back there again after last

1008
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: week shut out lost in Green Bay. I think I

1009
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying is I think what Sean is

1010
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: saying right now, where they're at, where they've banned the

1011
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: last four weeks, culture is critically important to this team

1012
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: right now. Look, nobody wants to be one and three,

1013
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: nobody want to be owned too. But you keep working,

1014
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: you go back to work, and I think that's helping

1015
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: right now. Is it more important than talent, No, but

1016
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: I think it's very important component of what they're trying

1017
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: to do. Here. You're just looking, No, I get it,

1018
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: But here I think culture is important. I don't think

1019
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: it's more important than talent. Look, if I had to

1020
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: sign importance, I would say sixty percent of your success

1021
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 1: is based on talent. I'm just making this up. Thirty

1022
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: percent is based on culture and ten percent is based

1023
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: on schemes. I think I think that's true at every

1024
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: level except the NFL. Really, I don't think the talent

1025
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: is as evenly distributed as you might say. I think

1026
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: people tend to gravitate towards the stars in a league,

1027
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: particularly in the NFL. They tend to gravitate towards those

1028
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: guys and think that they have this enormous effect on

1029
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: what goes on and no quit, no question. If you

1030
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: have a lot of great players who work really hard,

1031
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: you know you're you have a good team. But here's

1032
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: the thing, and Kurt Warner mentioned it in his response

1033
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: to us earlier in this show. He said, listen, I

1034
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Speaker 1: was with Marshall Falk and we all know Marshall Falk

1035
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: is a Hall of Fame running back and was extremely

1036
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: good from the moment he stepped on the field. One

1037
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Speaker 1: of the reasons why, and Kurt's point was this, he

1038
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: worked hard every day, and I witnessed the same thing.

1039
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Speaker 1: Our guest every week comes in, Thurman Thomas, was the

1040
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: same way. He worked hard every day. When you have

1041
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: great players, very talented players like Jim Kelly, like Thurman Thomas,

1042
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Speaker 1: like Andre Reid and Bruce Smith, who I was a

1043
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: part of, and guys like Kurt Warner, like Marshall Falk,

1044
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Speaker 1: like Tory Holt who played together with the Rams, and

1045
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Speaker 1: like Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin, like Emmett Smith who played

1046
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. You've got great players like those. And

1047
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Speaker 1: I just mentioned three teams who had three players that

1048
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: played virtually the exact same position. On all those teams,

1049
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: the difference wasn't that they had those players. The difference

1050
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 1: was that those players worked really hard every day. And

1051
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: this is culture. Because the best players on those teams

1052
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: worked really hard. Schmucks like me who were way down

1053
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: the roster felt it was their duty and it was

1054
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: part of the deal that you had to work hard too.

1055
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Speaker 1: That was culture, and the great players on those teams

1056
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: elevated the lower players on the roster to a point

1057
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: where the entire team played at a higher level, not

1058
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Speaker 1: just those great players. Aaron Rodgers and his team over

1059
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: there last week. Listen, he may elevate some guy, he

1060
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: may elevate the wide receivers, he may do all that.

1061
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Speaker 1: I don't see him elevating their secondary I don't see

1062
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: him elevating other guys. This is a guy that's played.

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Speaker 1: They won a Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers, and I'll

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00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: tell you what. And those super Bowl teams, they had

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00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: some pretty great players who are working really hard around

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. That's what happens on every team. If your

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Speaker 1: best players work hard, that's your culture and that's when

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00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: your team rises to another level. That's what culture is.

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00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: And that's why culture Trump's talent in the NFL. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying it Trump's talent like an the NCAA level,

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00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: the Power five conferences, because you can have a guy

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Speaker 1: like Cam Newton, who is the fifteen year old kid

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00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: playing with eight year olds. I get that. That's what

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Speaker 1: happens at Power five conferences. You don't have that at

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Speaker 1: the NFL. We're gonna break top of the hour break.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna talk about the Tennessee

1077
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: Titans with Dave McGinnis, the radio colorman on the Titans

1078
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: radio broadcast. And he's also a long time NFL coach

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00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: thirty one years coaching in the league, several of those

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00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: years as the head coach. For those years head coach

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00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Dave McGinnis coming up and we

1082
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: come back One Bill's Live from One Bill's Driving. This

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00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radiofalo Bill's Radio Networks Stories Update update

1084
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. Buffalo Bill's practicing inside the ed

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00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: Pro Sports Training Center as we speak with Rain here

1086
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park and Raining the forecast on Sunday Safety

1087
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: is Micah Hyde and his backup Rafael Bush look like

1088
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: they are not yet full participants at today's practice. The

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00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: Bills may have a problem back there at safety coming

1090
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: up on Sunday. They have rookie Serend Neil as the

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00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: only healthy backup safety right now. Neil's coming on our show.

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00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: After practicing around two o'clock or so. Bills added a

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00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: player to their yesterday. They released defensive tackle Robert Thomas

1094
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: and signed defensive tackle Jordan Phillips claimed him off waivers.

1095
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: He was let go by the Miami Dolphins a couple

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00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: of a couple of days ago. Jordan Phillips, second round

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00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: pick of the Dolphins in twenty fifteen, spent the first

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00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: four games this season with Miami. Had a sideline issue

1099
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins in their game in Foxborow last Sunday.

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00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: They released him yesterday or Tuesday rather, and he was

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00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: claimed by the Buffalo Bills off waivers at practice to

1102
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Speaker 1: age whears. Number ninety seven. Patriots wide receiver Julian Edelman

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00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: will make his debut tonight against the Indianapolis Colts. According

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00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: to the league sources, he's returning from a four game

1105
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: peed suspension and the tourn acl they kept him out

1106
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: all of last year. Edelman reportedly spent time working out

1107
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Speaker 1: at the Celtics new training facility in Boston during this

1108
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: four game suspension. He was around the Celtics weight room.

1109
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: He was the weight room and around the team's training

1110
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: staff over the last several weeks. Colts Patriots tonight, eight

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00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: twenty pm at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough. The Colts come

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Speaker 1: into the game one and three. The Patriots come into

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00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: the game with two wins and two losses. Buffalo Sabers

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00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: start their season tonight, hosting the Boston Bruins at key

1115
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: Bank Center to open up the twenty eighteen nineteen season.

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00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: Jack Chel yesterday named captain of the Sabers. The Sabers

1117
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: are going to host a party and alumni plazat starting

1118
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: at five pm tonight, with faceoff tonight at seven o'clock

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00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: the Sabers and the Boston Bruins and baseball playoffs tonight.

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Speaker 1: It is Game one of the National League Division Series

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00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: starting tonight about five o'clock Colorado Rockies and the Milwaukee Brewers.

1122
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: In Game one of the other National League Division series,

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00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Braves on the Los Angeles Dodgers. That one

1124
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: starts at eight thirty tonight. And that is the update

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00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: from One Bills Trive, John Murphy and Steve Tasker in

1126
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: our one Buffalo Studio, our two of the shows around

1127
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: Neo Bill's rookie safety schedule. To join us after practice

1128
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: could be just about an hour so away as the

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Speaker 1: Bills get set to play the Tennessee Titans, and joining

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Speaker 1: us right now on the subway fresh take hotline. Close

1131
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: observer of the Titans. He is their radio color analysts

1132
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: this year with Mike Keith, thirty one years coaching in

1133
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: the National Football League and was the head coach of

1134
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,479
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals for four years. Happy to have coach

1135
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis on the line with US coach John Murphy

1136
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker here in Buffalo. We thank you for

1137
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: coming on with us today. Absolutely, John and Steve, thanks

1138
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: for having me on. Yeah, hey, can we get We've

1139
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: had a little discussion here today. I want to get

1140
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: your take on the Sean McDermot, head coach of the

1141
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: Bill Sean McDermott came out with a statement yesterday, you know,

1142
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Speaker 1: on the Bills as you know, and having some troubles

1143
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: here one in three. Sean has a big belief in

1144
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: team culture and he had a comment yesterday about team

1145
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: culture and where it stands on his priorities. We're gonna

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00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: play this comment for you, coach and get your thoughts

1147
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: on this. Here's head coach Sean McDermott talking yesterday. We're

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00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: trying to develop a culture here and the culture to

1149
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: meet Trump's strategy. And that's that's what I believe in

1150
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: wholeheartedly and doesn't mean we have choir boys. It means

1151
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: we've got guys that love football and do the things

1152
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: the right way for the most part. That's what's got

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00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: us talking about a coach, what's your take on that

1154
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: this culture Trump strategy for a team? Is culture more

1155
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: important than talent for a team? What do you think, coach? Guys?

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00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,959
Speaker 1: I think it. I think it goes hand in hand.

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00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: You know when I first got into the league, Mike

1158
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: Dickon hurts me. You know at the Bears, you know,

1159
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: they're in the in the mid eighties, and I think

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00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: it's all it all goes hand in hands together, because

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00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, if you're talking about game day strategy, it's

1162
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: it's entirely different than you're talking about the strategy of

1163
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: putting a team together. And when you're when you start

1164
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: talking about strategy to put a team together, you are

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00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: talking about something that you want to develop, a culture,

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00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: a mindset, and the type of players that that you

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00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: have on those football teams. And I think you know,

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00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: of course, Steve is sitting right there and and you know,

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00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: I've been in the league a long long time and

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00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: they have competed against some of those great build teams

1171
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: that you know that that he was on there. And

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00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: but you knew going in as an opponent what type

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00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: of game you were going to play, because they had

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00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: a culture established that it was going to be a

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00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: physical football game. It was going to be you know,

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00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: Martin Levy was going to have them well coached. It

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Speaker 1: was going to be a team that that that left

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Speaker 1: no detail uncovered. But the type of players that you

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00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: bring in I think that when you accumulate players and

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00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: you start trying to build a program, especially from the

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00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: from if you're new, that is a strategy in itself. Now,

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00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: if you're talking about game day strategy and those types

1183
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: of thing, that all clearly takes place week to week

1184
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: to week in the National Football League. But in my mind,

1185
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: the way I was raised, in this league, you've got

1186
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: to have a one focal point, and you've got to

1187
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: have one voice, and you've got to have players that

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00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: are able to carry that message to a locker room.

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00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: And it has to be your significant players, because for

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Speaker 1: players in this league to have respect in a voice,

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00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: they have to be performing. And so to me, it

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00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: all kind of goes together. Yeah, we're talking to Dave McGinnis,

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00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: radio color analyst for the Tennessee Titans. I want to

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00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: talk about what do you notice about the Titans culture.

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00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: I know Mike Vrabel has really shown really good leadership

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00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: at times during this nice start the Titans are off to,

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Speaker 1: and I think the last two victories they had one

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00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: against the Jacksonville Jaguars and then one against the defending

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Speaker 1: world champion Philadelphia Eagles. I think it says a lot

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Speaker 1: about where Mike Vrabel has his culture well absolutely, and

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00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: of course you know, John Robinson to the general manager

1202
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: and very very impressed, you know, since I you know,

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00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: since I've been here in two years with John Robinson

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00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: and of course this year with Mike Grabel. I was

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00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: very aware of Mike Rigel as as a player in

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00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: the you know, in this league, you know because all

1207
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: my years of coaching in it. I mean you knew

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00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: watching him play that Mike Rabel was the type of

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00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: person you wanted to coach, you wanted on your team,

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00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: and you wanted as a team leader to carry your

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00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: message as a head coach into a locker room. And

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00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: and it's it's transferred to him being a head coach.

1213
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: And the first thing, you know, that is so so

1214
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: important for head coaches in this league, and there's everybody's

1215
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: got a different personality, but you have to be yourself

1216
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: and you have to be true to that because an

1217
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: NFL locker room, there's the first place that you cannot

1218
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: hide and you cannot be a fake or a phony

1219
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: is in an NFL locker room. And so when players

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00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: respect you being genuine, players respect you being honest, and

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00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: players also respect you carrying about them as much as

1222
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: people as you do about that number on their back.

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00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: And and Mike Rabel has been I mean I am

1224
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: so bought in and so all in with him. I mean,

1225
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: he he has been outstanding. And the thing it is,

1226
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: he's consistent. He's consistent, he's constant, and he's and he

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00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: is in himself, and he's got a very distinct message.

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00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: And plus again, you just have to respect when somebody

1229
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 1: comes in and is able to establish that and immediately

1230
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: transforms or captures a locker room, which he's done, he coaches.

1231
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: It too simplustic to assume that because he spent most

1232
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: of his playing career with the Patriots, that Mike Rabel

1233
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: has imported a Patriots type of culture to the Tennessee Titans. No,

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00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: he has, and Mike Rabel is as it has imported.

1235
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel is this is his culture and this is

1236
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: who he is now. He's like any of us, you

1237
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: know in this league. I mean, I've I've taken a

1238
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: little bit of Mike dickon what he did with me. Uh,

1239
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: you know, throughout my career and and and in all

1240
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: my thirty plus years in this league. You borrow something

1241
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: from everybody. You I find you do things and you

1242
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: catalog things that you want to copy. You catalong things

1243
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: also that you don't want to do. But at the end,

1244
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: as I said earlier in this conversation, you have to

1245
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: be yourself. So I mean, he's not trying to be

1246
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: He's not trying to be in the Patriots. He's trying

1247
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: to be Mike Rabel's Tennessee Titans. And that's what's so

1248
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: genuine about it. Talk a little bit about the really

1249
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: the top players on the Titans and what kind of

1250
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: seasons they're having. Marcus Mariota is still dealing with that

1251
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: elbow and seems to be overcoming and obviously in the

1252
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: way he came off the bench in one game and

1253
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: one and then seems to be handling the numbness in

1254
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: his fingers. Also, you know the running backs, how they're

1255
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: using the two running backs back and forth. Talk a

1256
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: little bit about the offensive side of the ball of

1257
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: the Titans. Well, yeah, of course, you know, you know

1258
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: with Matt Lafleur, you know, the new offensive coordinator who

1259
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: was with you know, Sean McVay out there you know

1260
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: in LA you know, he's implemented that system and of

1261
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: course this that whole system is built through the platform

1262
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: of the quarterback. You know, it's a it's a new system,

1263
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: and it takes it takes some time. I mean, it's

1264
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: it's it's very you know, player friendly, but at the

1265
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: same time, you know it has to be developed and

1266
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: it's not an immediate yet. And but but the time

1267
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: and the practice and the and and just the consistency

1268
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: with what you's been installed. And then Marcus Mariota, I mean,

1269
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I love him. I mean I remember vetting

1270
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: him when he was you know, when he was coming out,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the draft, and I mean, this guy

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Speaker 1: is what you want because because he is going to

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Speaker 1: be you know, he's extremely coachable, he's a he's a

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Speaker 1: very he's a very steady, silent leader that is ultra competitives.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's a he's he's a he's a very athletic,

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Speaker 1: fearless type quarterback. And again, those types of guys endear themselves,

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Speaker 1: you know, to their teammates, to the organization. And then again,

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Speaker 1: you know with the running backs, you know, with Henry

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Speaker 1: and Lewis, because they've got two completely different types of back,

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Speaker 1: but they're being able to incorporate into this offensive system

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Speaker 1: that gives you a lot of multiple looks, you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of of of different formations, different personnel groups,

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Speaker 1: and the you know, Matt la Fleur so far through

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Speaker 1: the first month of this season has really done a

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Speaker 1: nice job with that. Talking with Dave McGinnis thirty one

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Speaker 1: years as a coach in the NFL, former head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, now the radio color analysts on

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans radio broadcast, you talk about the running backs, coach,

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Speaker 1: they haven't run it that often and the Titans haven't

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Speaker 1: really run it that well yet. Is that the plan?

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Speaker 1: Do you think they'll eventually get around to that? Or

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Speaker 1: can they win? Obviously they have one, but can they

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Speaker 1: continue to win mostly through the air? What do you think? Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, and Steve can tell you know, everybody's sitting there,

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Speaker 1: you know. You look, you do what you have to

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Speaker 1: do every Sunday or Monday or Thursday, whatever it takes

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Speaker 1: to win that game, to win that game. And I

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Speaker 1: think that is true now, even more so than it's

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Speaker 1: ever been in the National Football League, as fluid as

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Speaker 1: a lot of these rosters are right now, and as

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Speaker 1: the difference that the rules have changed in this league

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Speaker 1: as far as offensively and what you can do. It's

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Speaker 1: a week to week proposition. And those coaches and players

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Speaker 1: that are able to take a basic system and basic

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01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: principles and tenants and then be able to adjust it

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Speaker 1: week to week to what you have to win that week,

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Speaker 1: that's what you do because at the end of it all,

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Speaker 1: all that matters, that's that three hours and five minutes

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Speaker 1: on either Sunday, Monday or Thursday, is that you've won

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Speaker 1: the ball game, and you win that ball game, and

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Speaker 1: then you start putting the plan in place to go

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Speaker 1: win the next week. Tell us about the Titans defense,

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Speaker 1: in particular the front seven coach really impressive and guys

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Speaker 1: you know who've been around now a little bit, Brian A.

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Speaker 1: Rackpoh and Derek Morgan and Durell casey Um. I think

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Speaker 1: that's as good a front seven as I've seen yet

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Speaker 1: so far in this league. What do you think, Well,

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Speaker 1: they're very physical. You know, of course, danps is a

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Speaker 1: veteran coordinator in this league. You know, I've always been

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Speaker 1: impressed with his defenses, have studied his defenses when I

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Speaker 1: was coaching defense in this league. And and the thing is,

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Speaker 1: though it's a very physical defense, you know. And then

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Speaker 1: they've been that way for quite a while here. You know,

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Speaker 1: they were I coached here for eight years. That's how

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Speaker 1: we were when I was here, which doesn't matter now.

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Speaker 1: But again, the mindset, the mindset you know, they bring

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Speaker 1: to it. And then plus deanps is experience, but he's

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Speaker 1: also very, very innovative. But you have to have those

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Speaker 1: types of veteran leaders on defense because as we all know,

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Speaker 1: as much as this league has has more into anything,

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Speaker 1: any rule changes that have been made have been made

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Speaker 1: to the offenses advantage. But still at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, we know, as we start going towards the

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Speaker 1: month towards October, November, December, January, you need a physical

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Speaker 1: defense because once you start getting into these later games

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Speaker 1: and the weather and stuff, a good physical defense will

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Speaker 1: travel anywhere. And that's what they're trying to build here. Um,

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Speaker 1: Kenny mccarl left last week with an elbow. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he's gonna play or not, but would they

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Speaker 1: likely go with Kirkshank the rookie back there at safety

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Speaker 1: and for Carol Can they got it. They've got They've

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Speaker 1: got a couple of options back there, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know whether Kenney is going to be

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Speaker 1: able to go or not yet. We'll find out. You

1345
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: still got plenty of time until Sunday. But that's one

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Speaker 1: thing this team has done a really good job of,

1347
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Speaker 1: is you know. I know it's a trite and I

1348
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Speaker 1: know it's a cliche, but next man up, Next man

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01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: up has been a reality here from day one, you know,

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Speaker 1: since since the opener, you know, with the people they've

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Speaker 1: had to replace during the week, you know, at several

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Speaker 1: different positions, and so whoever is back there, I promise

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Speaker 1: you they'll be coached up and they'll be ready to play.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. Yeah, I was gonna ask you talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about what their expectations are about their own division,

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Speaker 1: NAFC South. You know, with Andrew Luck back in the

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Speaker 1: in the mix, the Colts playing tonight, I know the

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Speaker 1: Titans will be glued to their televisions watching that. How

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Speaker 1: does that division stack up? And what were the expectations

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season. How have they changed

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Speaker 1: in the last month for the Titans. Well, guys, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, the way to get the way to get

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Speaker 1: to the tournament in the National Football League is you've

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Speaker 1: got to win your division, and so clearly that's what

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Speaker 1: you look at. But at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 1: between your division games, I mean, they've already won two

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Speaker 1: division games early in the year, which is a good thing,

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Speaker 1: a nice thing, but it doesn't guarantee you anything. And

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Speaker 1: then so you've got to be able to stack wins

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Speaker 1: until you get to those latter division games, and then

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Speaker 1: you've got to make a push for that. But division games,

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Speaker 1: you know, for anybody, and you guys know as well

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Speaker 1: as I do, division games and the space in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League when you play a team twice, and

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Speaker 1: you play a team twice over a series of years,

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Speaker 1: there's some real rivalries that you know that that starts

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01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: to develop. And so really those games are different than

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Speaker 1: any of the other games that you play out of

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Speaker 1: division or out of conference. And so this division is

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Speaker 1: a very physical division. Andrew Luck coming back even adds

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Speaker 1: to what Indie has, you know, Houston and Clardic Jacksonville is,

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Speaker 1: you know, has put together a really good team Houston

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Speaker 1: when they're healthy and they're they're ends up rolling, They're

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Speaker 1: a very physical team on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: So this is a very competitive division, and you've got

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Speaker 1: to stay on top of it if you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to get through it with some wins. Coach, We're

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Speaker 1: looking forward to the game, looking forward to saying Lodia

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Speaker 1: when you come up here on Sunday, thank you very

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Speaker 1: much for being with us here today. Guys, it's my pleasure. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: I'll see y'all, okay. Coach Dave mckinnis thirty one years

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Speaker 1: coaching in the NFL. Former head coach of the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: the radio color analysts for the Tennessee Titans radio network

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Speaker 1: coach we get us joined us on the Subway Fresh

1395
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Speaker 1: Take Kintline presented by Subway Restaurants, proud to be locally

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Speaker 1: owned and operated. He started back in nineteen eighty six

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Speaker 1: with the Bears, went through the Cardinals twice, once his

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, then he became their head coach. Then he's

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Speaker 1: with the Titans and Jeff Fisher's linebackers coach, and then

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Speaker 1: with Saint Louis moved with Jeff Fisher the Saint Louis

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01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: Rams all the way out to la when they made

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Speaker 1: that move, and now he's he's the radio analyst for

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Speaker 1: the Titans. It's been around the National Football League for

1404
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: a long time at the highest level as a head coach.

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Speaker 1: So it's yeah, hearing him talk about, you know, the

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Speaker 1: philosophies about and we had him. We threw that out there,

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Speaker 1: the culture versus talent, We like that question. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: he kind of took the middle of the road like

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Speaker 1: like most broadcasters do. You know, they go hand in hand.

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Speaker 1: And he's right to a certain extent. But interesting take

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Speaker 1: on the Titans though about you know, their culture and

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Speaker 1: what Vrabel has been able to do. Those I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you. I could keep mentioning. I mentioned him even

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the week, and I mentioned him

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Speaker 1: every day. Those last two wins are really impressive. Two

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Speaker 1: of last year's final four teams, right, Jacksonville, and they

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Speaker 1: beat them. But now they beat Jacksonville nine to six,

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Speaker 1: nine to six. Now, I'm not saying Jacksonville is an

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Speaker 1: offensive juggernai and three field goals and you win the game.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good defensive effort too. And the Bills,

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Speaker 1: who've been challenged to score points, you're gonna be up

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Speaker 1: against that defense. Sure. Hey, our thanks to coach mckinnis

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Speaker 1: for joining us surend Neil is going to join us

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Speaker 1: as well. I want to get you first of all.

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Speaker 1: I want to tell you that coming up in the

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Speaker 1: next segment. Got a letter that Steve is in possession

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Speaker 1: of a letter to Mark Murphy, the chief executive officer

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Speaker 1: and president of the Green Bay Packers, from some fans

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Speaker 1: at last Sunday's game. We'll talk about that when we

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Speaker 1: come back from the break. Also, let's get involved and

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Speaker 1: discuss our Twitter poll topic today. It deals with the

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Speaker 1: culture versus talent versus strategy. What do you think Yesterday

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermot said culture Trump's strategy all the time, right?

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Speaker 1: What was it? Quote to me to me, culture to me,

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Speaker 1: Trump's strategy. What do you think of that? What's the

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Speaker 1: most important to have access in the NFL? That's our

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll. We got seventeen hundred votes in so far

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Speaker 1: on our Twitter poll. What's the most important element to

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Speaker 1: having a successful NFL franchise? Two thirds of you sixty

1440
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: six percent say it's talent, nineteen percent of you say

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01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: it is strategy, thirteen percent say culture, two percent say

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Speaker 1: something else. We'll get deep into that when we come

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Speaker 1: back after the break. It is one Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: by KLATA Health from One Bill's Drive and this is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Half over our to believe we've been

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Speaker 1: rocking through this show. Kurt Warner joined us. Yes, that guy,

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01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, Pro Football Hall of Famer, and we just

1448
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: said Coach Dave mckinnis from Arizona Cardinals coach now the

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Speaker 1: color analysts on the Titans Radio Network. By the way,

1450
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: if you hear about our guests or maybe miss a segment,

1451
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: you can go to our website, Buffalo Bills dot com

1452
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: and listen to the whole thing. People get confused. If

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Speaker 1: you go to Buffalo Bills dot com, they're always there.

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01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: The whole shows up there. Give us an hour or

1455
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: two after the show and we will discuss. You know,

1456
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: you can hear what we're even talking about all day.

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01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people don't listen in real time.

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01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: More we're talking about today. We asked each of our

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Speaker 1: guests what's most important to have success in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott started it yesterday when he said to me,

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Speaker 1: cultured Trump's strategy. Do you agree with that culture more

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Speaker 1: important than strategy, Culture more important than talent. That's our

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll We got good response on that. We got

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Speaker 1: a couple of phone calls on this issue as well.

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Speaker 1: Culture more important than strategy, your talent. Here's a call

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Speaker 1: from Jack in Rochester on this issue. Jack, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air. You know. I didn't think Sean

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Speaker 1: mcdermot's comment was all that controversial when I first heard it,

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Speaker 1: but I had a different take on it, I think

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Speaker 1: than maybe some other people. The way I interpreted what

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Speaker 1: he said was that you can go into a game

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Speaker 1: and have a game plan offensive or defensively that's good,

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01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: another one that's better, another one that's best. You then

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Speaker 1: have more success fully committing and perfectly executing the good

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Speaker 1: plan than you are doing a half big job on

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Speaker 1: the best plan. I don't think that's a controversial position. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I accept your characterization of what

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Speaker 1: he's saying, though, I don't know if it's controversial, as

1479
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: much as I think it's interesting. I thought it opened

1480
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: opened the door a little bit as to the way

1481
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: Sean thinks. I guess we knew this that he valued culture.

1482
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: I value culture. Steve values culture, but he put it

1483
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: and by the way, I agree with Sean, culture is

1484
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: more important than strategy. There's no question in my mind

1485
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: about that. Is it more important than talent? That's where

1486
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: I run into it. Steve says, yes, it is. I

1487
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if I can go in

1488
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: with that. What do you think? Well, I think in

1489
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: the NFL, I think it is because the talent level

1490
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: is so so even across the board from the from

1491
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: the all thirty two teams, and I think, and I'm

1492
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: you know. I went on and I was asking if

1493
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: it made sense after we get off the air, and

1494
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: he said, I what made sense? My rant? I can't

1495
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: keep your rants straight. You have several different rants. You

1496
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 1: want me to write them down? Well here now, Actually

1497
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: my rants probably are not worth writing down. I gotta

1498
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: be honest. But my rant was that all teams have players.

1499
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: If those great players are your hardest working players, they

1500
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: elevate the rest of the roster. That's culture. And when

1501
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: you elevate the rest of your roster, that makes you

1502
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: a great team and so and it makes you hard

1503
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: to beat. It doesn't win every game, just like talent

1504
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: doesn't win every game, just like strategy doesn't win every game,

1505
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: and culture won't win every game. I think it does

1506
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: elevate what you have on your team to a point

1507
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: where you're better than you otherwise would have been. And

1508
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: that's where you want to be. How about if we

1509
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: can think of it this way and see if this

1510
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to change. I don't care if I

1511
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: change your mind, but here's the way to think about it.

1512
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: What would you rather have on your team A ton

1513
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: of talent, a ton of culture, good culture, good winning culture,

1514
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: teamwork that sort of thing, or great strategy, a ton

1515
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: of strategy. I'd say I'd start with I'd rather first,

1516
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: I'd rather have a lot of talent. Yeah, culture would

1517
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: be right behind there. I get that. But here, and

1518
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: here's the thing that's missing. I keep going back to this.

1519
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: In this league we're talking about everybody's got talent. It's

1520
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: a given, but it's not equally distributed. That's where I

1521
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: think we disagree. It only shows those don't have the

1522
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: talent that the laws. They've got plenty of talent. The

1523
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: problem the thing is they don't even if it's not

1524
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: distributed the same way. Other teams you see are like

1525
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. They got four wide receivers and

1526
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: are running back in a quarterback You can't even name

1527
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: a defender on their team. Bills don't have the talent

1528
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Chiefs, not on not the spots

1529
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, But they got a better front seven

1530
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 1: than the thief do. On defense, they got a better secondary,

1531
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: They got two better safeties when they're healthy. So the

1532
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 1: talent is spread in a different way and the culture.

1533
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: What I'm talking about is that those great players like

1534
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: the for the Buffalo Bills, it would be like the

1535
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: Micah Highs, like Jordan Poyer, uh like Lashawn McCoy, those

1536
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: guys who Kyle Williams. Those guys work really hard and

1537
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: set a standard that elevates other guys on that roster

1538
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 1: to play better and be better prepared to play well

1539
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 1: than teams where who have the same amount of like

1540
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: from my point, the same amount of talent on a

1541
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: team in the NFL, or or differently distributed talent on

1542
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 1: a team another team in the NFL that get it together.

1543
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: Those guys don't work hard. They're waiting for the other

1544
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 1: players to match their abilities. They're waiting for the other

1545
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 1: players to matt play as good as they can before

1546
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 1: they actually invest in this game. So I think a

1547
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: team like the one I was talking about is a

1548
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: better is better equipped to win more games than the

1549
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: team with maybe more a more talented player or two

1550
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 1: that aren't fully invested or that don't have any skin

1551
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: in the game as to how the other guys and

1552
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: their team play. And I think in football that it's

1553
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: it's paramount. And we laugh all the time about my

1554
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: disdain for baseball, and it's a perfect analogy in this case,

1555
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: because football, you're in you have to be invested to

1556
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: sacrifice for your team. You got offensive lineman who will

1557
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 1: hurt and and you know, be uncomfortable not get any

1558
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: of the credit for a win or whatever, what have you.

1559
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: They're guys who sacrifice by the way they play in

1560
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: the very position they inhabit on a team will never

1561
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: get the kind of recognition Josh Allen Lashaw McCoy get,

1562
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:59,799
Speaker 1: and yet they're fully integrated into it and they're invested

1563
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: in it. Like in baseball. Listen, if you're if you're

1564
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: bating four hundred and they don't care if you can

1565
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: even catch, You're right, they'll find a spot right there.

1566
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: You're fine, We'll find a spot for you. And you

1567
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: don't care. You don't have to show up on time.

1568
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: You don't have to be invested. You don't have to

1569
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 1: sacrifice anybody anything for anybody else. If you're standing on

1570
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: right field, you don't care if the left fielder makes

1571
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: an error. It doesn't matter because you're bating four hundred.

1572
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: It's a different kind of sport. And that's why in football,

1573
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 1: culture to me, is so integrated in the success of

1574
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: a good football team. It's called from Mike in New Mexico.

1575
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Mike, you're on the air with us. Hey guys,

1576
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 1: thank you. Um I think I might have a little

1577
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 1: different take on what coach McDermott was talking about. He

1578
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: I don't think when he says culture trump strategy, he's

1579
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: talking about game to game. He said it. He said

1580
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: the word he said belief. He's like, belief in the team,

1581
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: belief in the mentality, belief in the vision, the process,

1582
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: the longer vision, you know, Like I mean, talent gets

1583
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 1: your drafted strategy could win the games. But culture, that's

1584
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: the heart, that's the pride, that's the you know, the

1585
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: bleeding of the of the red and blue and and

1586
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: the blue collar mentality. It's it's all that stuff that

1587
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 1: will get you through the hard times. You know, like

1588
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 1: the right culture is gonna make Kelvin Benjamin complete that run,

1589
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 1: complete that route, even though he's pretty sure he's about

1590
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 1: to get himself killed because his QB is still learning

1591
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: through the ball late and and he got he got hurt,

1592
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 1: but he I mean, he tried to make that touch.

1593
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: There are other players who might have more talent, who

1594
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: might have had a better strategy, who would have given

1595
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: up on that ball, and they might even be given

1596
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: up on the team that's that's doing badly because they're

1597
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: in this rebuild culture is the long vision culture, is

1598
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: the belief that it's gonna get better and you got

1599
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: us to it. I like that, Mike. I think you

1600
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 1: make some good points, and let me make sure that

1601
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: you understand this, Steve, I think you do. I'm not

1602
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,839
Speaker 1: a I am a fan of culture. I know it's important.

1603
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: I credit culture for getting the builds through they Owe

1604
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: in two week when they went out and beat Minnesota.

1605
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: I think that was almost the most important thing about

1606
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: that week, not necessarily kick off in that three hours

1607
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 1: have followed, but that week, the fact that these guys,

1608
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 1: these players went through their business, went about their business

1609
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 1: the exact same way at OWE and two, after terrible

1610
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 1: losses to the Ravens and the Chargers, they just kept

1611
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 1: working culture, and I think that the culture carried them

1612
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: through that week. They're gonna lean on it now, They're

1613
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: gonna need it now, they need it right now. Not

1614
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: only do they lean on it during that after that

1615
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: two weeks where they you know, really they were probably

1616
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: a little bit embarrassed about how they played, and they

1617
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: went into a more talented Minnesota team, yeah, and beat

1618
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: them and beat them soundly. That's you're right, and I've

1619
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: I've said it before in the show. You win games

1620
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: Monday through Saturday when you prepare to play and on Sunday,

1621
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: it's the evidence of your work. And I think you're right.

1622
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 1: In fact, i'd go further than not only did the

1623
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 1: culture get them through the first that tough week after

1624
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,839
Speaker 1: those first two losses, it carried him to the playoffs.

1625
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 1: Last year. They were they were twenty sixth in defense,

1626
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: twenty ninth in offense, and yet at certain times during

1627
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 1: that season last year, we saw this team be so

1628
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: together and so invested in each other in what they

1629
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: were trying to build that they pulled out games against

1630
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: Kansas City on the road and against the Raiders here

1631
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: at home against Atlanta on the road, all those unlikely

1632
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: victories that we saw them get, as well as some

1633
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 1: unlikely defeats or some defeats that they didn't look good in,

1634
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 1: and that culture carried him through that roller coaster, and

1635
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 1: I think gave them the impetus to win games they

1636
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: had no business winning last year on paper. That's so

1637
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: people would get people on the tweet sheet time and

1638
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: say culture doesn't win games. I disagree completely. They were

1639
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: a handful of games last year where culture was the

1640
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 1: only reason they won. Here's a call from a Jim. Hello, Jim,

1641
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: you're on the show with us. Go ahead, Hi, Steve, Hey, um,

1642
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: I gotta go with culture too, for the points you

1643
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: guys just made, and for if you look at since

1644
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: free agency started. You look at say the Redskins three

1645
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: ten years ago, when they loaded up with all these

1646
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 1: free agents, none of them could get together. They go

1647
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: six and ten, seven at nine. Then he got along

1648
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: with us. Last year, you got the Steelers. This year

1649
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: who the Steelers offensive lineman calling out leave? I fell

1650
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: over his money. I don't think there's any doubt talent.

1651
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: Look at Josh Gordon, Josh Gordon tons of talent, never

1652
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: done anything other than the one year talent without culture

1653
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: is the problem. One more Let me give let me

1654
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: even get example, Jim, you know people are chiming in

1655
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: saying and I get it too. The teams I was

1656
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: on were loaded. I had five Hall of Famers in

1657
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: the room when I first sat down first team meeting.

1658
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: Nobody knew who they were at the time, but there

1659
01:19:58,200 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: were five guys who ended up going to the Hall

1660
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: of fa It was Jim, Bruce, Andre, Marv leaving the front,

1661
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 1: Bill Polling in the back. James wasn't there when I

1662
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 1: first got there, and we drafted and we picked up

1663
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 1: Lofting off the later after we drafted Thermon, there were

1664
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 1: six Hall of Famers. So yeah, that team was loaded.

1665
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 1: The difference is that same team in nineteen eighty nine

1666
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: went nine and seven, barely limped into playoffs and we're

1667
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: out in the first round. That roster, that same roster,

1668
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: then that same roster after the culture changed, went to

1669
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: four straight Super Bowls. There's your answer for me. And

1670
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: as the team's I was on, there's your answer. It

1671
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 1: was the same team plus or minus a few guys

1672
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the roster. Every year that went

1673
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: to four straight Super Bowls, that was barely backed into

1674
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs the year before in nineteen eighty nine. So

1675
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: and I get it. There are examples of all of

1676
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: our of our beliefs, you know, in the past. I mean,

1677
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 1: there's beliefs of you were talent wins, and there's and

1678
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: there's examples of me where I say culture wins. But

1679
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: it's still my belief that you established that culture and

1680
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: everybody in your roster gets better and plays better. Called

1681
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: from Charlie in Atlanta. Hello, Charlie, Welcome to the show.

1682
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: Hey guys. Um, So, I just gotta I gotta quick compall.

1683
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make my point as quick as I can.

1684
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 1: I think that a culture and strategy go hand in hand,

1685
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: and I think talent is uh, you know, the third

1686
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 1: out of those three. And I'll tell you why. I

1687
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 1: think it's interesting in the poll here, carl these Bills

1688
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: fans to you know, vote, you know, you know, tallenges

1689
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: running away because at least in my opinion from you

1690
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: know what Bills fans are experiencing on the field, that

1691
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: there's been at least twice during the drought where the

1692
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 1: Bills roster was absolutely loaded with talents, going back to

1693
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: the Rag Williams, Mike Mallarky days when you know we

1694
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,839
Speaker 1: had let so All Spearless, Price, Travis Henry, the defense

1695
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: at Blendon, Fletcher Tekio Spikes, and you know, it wasn't

1696
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: good enough to get us into the postseason. And then

1697
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: as recently with the Rex Ryan teams where defense was

1698
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: absolutely loaded, and then we had Tammy Watkins La Shan

1699
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: McCoy playing at a high level of Robert Woods wasn't

1700
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: good enough. The flip side, um, you know, for strategy,

1701
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, I you know, I look back to the

1702
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: Chan Daily days where you know, we have fits Freddie

1703
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: Jackson and Stevie Johnson and even though those guys, you know,

1704
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,759
Speaker 1: at Steve's point where the talent gap isn't so huge,

1705
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 1: but you know it wasn't Drew Brees, Julio Jones and

1706
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: and you know Ladanian Tomlinson. But the strategy was so

1707
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: good that our offense, or at least our offense is

1708
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: able to perform, you know, at a surprisingly high level

1709
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: considering we didn't have that from her talent. But you know,

1710
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: so but in to in to finish it up, um,

1711
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, for culture and strategy, you look at what

1712
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: I think are the two best coaches in the NFL

1713
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 1: today is Bill Belichick and Andy Readon. You know, they've

1714
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: been doing it for a long time. They've won a lot,

1715
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 1: so obviously they have, you know, that winning culture and

1716
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: that message down, you know, to a t. But you

1717
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 1: know when when I watched them week to week, and

1718
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: what I think, and you know what I hear NFL

1719
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 1: analysts say around the league. What they talk about is

1720
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: how creative they are, you know, at least offensively, you know,

1721
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: defensively as well, you know with you know how they

1722
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 1: get guys open. And you know how many guys those

1723
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 1: guys have coached over the years. And you know, it's

1724
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 1: kind of plug and play because their strategy, you know,

1725
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: week to week and year over year is so creative

1726
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: and so good. Can I just stop you, Charlie, because

1727
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: I think it's plug and play, not because of strategy,

1728
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: but because of culture. Look, and I'm the record here.

1729
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: I think talent's most important, but I think they can

1730
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: bring guys in and plug them in and play them

1731
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 1: because of the strong culture they have. And I'm thinking

1732
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: about the Patriots. I'm thinking about Randy Moss, talented as

1733
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: he was going to the Patriots and excelling because of

1734
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 1: the culture. They're not because of anything they did, you know, strategic.

1735
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: I think that's where culture comes into play. You can

1736
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: plug in you you have a strong culture, whether it's

1737
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: the Patriots for the last decad and a half or

1738
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: you know, the Chiefs over the Lady read the Chiefs.

1739
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: If you've got a strong culture and expectations of how

1740
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 1: we work and how we practice and how we play,

1741
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: then you can bring in guys, free agent guys, and

1742
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 1: they have a good chance of excelling regardless of whatever

1743
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: the scheme is, whatever the strategy. What do you think

1744
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: of that? Yeah, but I also think that's that's a function. Yeah,

1745
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 1: that's a function of the culture because of the kind

1746
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 1: of guys they bring in and the guys they can

1747
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: the guys they bring in, and the way that they

1748
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: assimilate that. You look at Corey Dillon, who was never

1749
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: considered a great guy, went to New England ended up

1750
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: winning a world championship there. They've done that with other guys.

1751
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 1: That is culture, There's no doubt about it. And uh,

1752
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 1: but it also is the culture and you think about

1753
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 1: it murphic it speaks to the same two different sides

1754
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 1: of the same coin that we've been talking about. That's

1755
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 1: a Patriots team that got better by bringing those talented

1756
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:34,759
Speaker 1: players in, but their culture allowed those players to achieve

1757
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 1: something they had never been able to achieve before in

1758
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: their in their careers. The success they had win in

1759
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: championships and being a part of a team that was

1760
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: more than that was a function of the culture rather

1761
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: than their talent. But the team was made better by

1762
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: their talent, no question about it, because for one thing,

1763
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: they filled the need that the team had obviously, but

1764
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: another was that they were able to, for some reason,

1765
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: excel in that culture where they had not excelled to

1766
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: that extent. And others. Although Randy Mossy for the Patriots,

1767
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 1: I mean he was great in Minnesota. I mean it's

1768
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: not like but he wasn't great in La right or

1769
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: Oakland for the Raiders he was only it was Okay,

1770
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: we'll continue this discussion. Plus, I look back at Sunday's

1771
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: game at Lambo and the atmosphere at Lambo. Steve's got

1772
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: an interesting story in Letter to Read that's coming up

1773
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: when we return. One does live from One Bill's Drive,

1774
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 1: John Murphy's team Tasker. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio One

1775
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: Bill's Live on a Thursday afternoon Bills in Tennessee Titans.

1776
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: The temperature on a Sunday, it's supposed to be about

1777
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 1: the low sixties, considerable cloudiness, the forecast chance of showers

1778
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: and a chance of maybe some thunder as well on Sunday.

1779
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: So that's what you're looking at. Tony Corrente is your

1780
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: referee for the Bills in the Tennessee Titans. Steve and

1781
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 1: I will talk a lot more about this game tomorrow.

1782
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 1: We don't really like to do predictions, but I'm getting

1783
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:57,839
Speaker 1: a good feeling about this one from the Bills standpoint

1784
01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 1: a little bit. We got a lot of things to fix,

1785
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: but we both we always do, we talk each other

1786
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: into it. Here we go. It's happening again. Don't matter.

1787
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna apologize for it. This issue lingers from

1788
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: last Sunday the Bills Packers. Terrible loss for the Bills

1789
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: at Lamba Field. I mentioned it during our broadcast Sunday

1790
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 1: on the radio, and even done Monday. There were a

1791
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: lot of Buffalo fans in Lambeau making a pilgrimage to

1792
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,719
Speaker 1: what they believe to be a sacred holy football ground.

1793
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: All right, I won't go down that road anymore. But

1794
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: they had a good experience. And see if you got

1795
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: a letter in your hand. So I know a bunch

1796
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 1: of people here in Buffalo, obviously I'm kind of a

1797
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: lifer here, and a couple of guys wanted me to

1798
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: get them tickets if I could get them tickets, like

1799
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: a group of guys that was like twelve of them

1800
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: one point. It is like nineteen, there was fifteen, there

1801
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: was ten, now was twelve, so it ended up being

1802
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: twelve guys. Did you pay for him? Uh? Yeah, they

1803
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 1: paid me. I mean I got got the tickets and

1804
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: make any money? Right, No, I didn't. And who's gonna

1805
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 1: take that? I come on? So anyway through the court.

1806
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: He asked me months in advance, and when the when

1807
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 1: the schedule came out, Yeah, group of guys they said, hey,

1808
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: which game we want to go to? They want to

1809
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 1: go to one road game a year. And it turned out,

1810
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: of course, to be the Sacred Hollowed Ground lambeau Field.

1811
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: So so it came out and I was and it

1812
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: was late in the game. You know how it works here,

1813
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,799
Speaker 1: I mean I can you know, sometimes you can get tickets,

1814
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 1: but sometimes you don't know for sure and all that.

1815
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 1: So they came through me thinking I would be a

1816
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 1: better option than secondary market to get them together, get

1817
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 1: twelve to gets so in essence, I did, so we

1818
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 1: got them that it worked out that the Bills let

1819
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 1: me have them, and so they got So these twelve

1820
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 1: guys go up to Green Bay and they spend the weekend.

1821
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: They have a great time. They sit up and they're

1822
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: up in section like seven forty one, right, so yeah, right,

1823
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: so the way and they experienced the day and it

1824
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 1: was fun. They wish they the Bills would have won,

1825
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 1: but no. But one of the guys is acquainted with

1826
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,839
Speaker 1: Mark Murphy, President and chief executive officer of the Packers,

1827
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 1: and he Mark Murphy came up to section seven forty

1828
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: one and said hello to his friend. You know, they said, hey,

1829
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: how are you guys doing? Him joined, you know, and

1830
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: the Packer fans, right so, the Packer fans, you know,

1831
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 1: see them and acknowledge him. It's like wow, president of

1832
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: the teams because they and they, you know, for some

1833
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: of the more informed fans, they realize he's a local here,

1834
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 1: he grew up here, that kind of thing. So they

1835
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 1: get the connection. And it was a nice thing for

1836
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: them as well. So he comes up, says hi to

1837
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: the guys, and then set you go. He goes and

1838
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 1: watch the rest of the game. This was between the

1839
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:16,759
Speaker 1: third and fourth quarter, well, and then third. In between

1840
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: the third and fourth quarter, there's a tradition, I guess

1841
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 1: in Lambeau where they sing the beer barrel. Oh yeah,

1842
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 1: I was wrestling along with it, all right, So that's

1843
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 1: where this is. We're still Then something happened. So this

1844
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 1: I'm going to read you this and then I'll explain

1845
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:31,640
Speaker 1: where it came from. This says my wife and I

1846
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 1: were seated in section seven. A letter from a no

1847
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: from somebody else, a Packer fan, and it was sent

1848
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 1: to Mark Murphy, president's chief executive officer of the Packers,

1849
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: and he says, my wife and I this is part

1850
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: of the letter. Is a long letter. My wife and

1851
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: I were seated in section seven forty one on Sunday

1852
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: when you came up to the top of the section

1853
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: to greet your friends positioned in the top several rows.

1854
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you what occurred during the break

1855
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: between the third and fourth quarters. Per tradition, the fans

1856
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 1: took part in singing the beer barrel polka. After the

1857
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,560
Speaker 1: song ended, the group of Buffalo Bills fans that you

1858
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,640
Speaker 1: had greeted earlier in the day stood and began to

1859
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 1: sing God Bless America. Many other fans in our section

1860
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: rose enjoined them and then acknowledge them when the song

1861
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:15,560
Speaker 1: was finished, and he goes on to say, perhaps this

1862
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 1: is something Bills fans do in their stadium. I don't

1863
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: know whatever it is, as you want to thank you

1864
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: for the atmosphere and the classy people from Buffalo who

1865
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: gave us a feel good moment and enjoy and gave

1866
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 1: him another example of why he enjoys coming to lambeau Field.

1867
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 1: And he said, pass this on to your friends with

1868
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: my respect and admiration. And this letter was facts to

1869
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 1: my friends here and the guys I got the tickets

1870
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 1: form Buffalo and they come out with us from Mark Murphy.

1871
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 1: So Bills fans up in Green Bay. After they did

1872
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 1: one of the traditions in Lambo stood up and started.

1873
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 1: These guys, you know these guys, I mean even a

1874
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 1: bunch of guys, They stood up saying God Bless America,

1875
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 1: and a bunch of Packer fans grew up and it

1876
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: was great, right it's one of those great, you know,

1877
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: one of those unifying mind He goes into you know,

1878
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 1: this big, long, you know, dissertation about what it meant

1879
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, it's cool. And in this, in the

1880
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: political times in which we live and the divisive things

1881
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: that happened, it was kind of fun to for opposing

1882
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: fans of posing teams to kind of come together and

1883
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 1: have a moment. It was said, it was nice. And

1884
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: he wrote a letter to Mark Murphy, who he shared with,

1885
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: and he shared it with us, and I'm sharing it

1886
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: with you. So it's cool. You know, I know I

1887
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 1: made it. I was most of these fans kind of

1888
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 1: representing there, absolutely representing well. And I made a big

1889
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 1: deal last week about that's not sacred ground. It's not

1890
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 1: all aground, and I believe that it's not, by the way,

1891
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 1: but I will say this, and those Buffalo fans did great.

1892
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 1: The whole atmosphere there is great in Lambo. The fans

1893
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 1: are so nice. I mean, people, you know, wave into

1894
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: the buses on the way in and the way out,

1895
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 1: and it's not derisive, it's not sarcastic. It's just, hey,

1896
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 1: thanks for coming. We're glad to have the NFL, right

1897
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,600
Speaker 1: down the street here the stadium Lambo sits in the

1898
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 1: middle of a neighborhood. There's like houses right around it. Yeah,

1899
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,560
Speaker 1: and it's a great play. It's a historic place. I

1900
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 1: don't believe it's blessed or sacred or hallowed ground or anything.

1901
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 1: But the people there are really nice. They are nice,

1902
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 1: they are blessed. I really like people. It's anique place.

1903
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 1: I think I could live in Wisconsin's day. That's much

1904
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 1: I like it there. Yeah, a couple of guys I

1905
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: worked with at CBS or Wisconsin Natives, um, and they

1906
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 1: it's become common for fans or people groups to buy

1907
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 1: the houses surrounding Lamboat. They got them make them into

1908
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: party tailgate wrist bits, like much like the Mafia. Yet yeah,

1909
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 1: like some of that are out of here. They do

1910
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: that in a big way around lambout and they they

1911
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 1: decked these houses out of a group of guys will

1912
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 1: throw in the money and buy the house and make

1913
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:33,679
Speaker 1: it a you know, a destination for the weekend place.

1914
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 1: It is a It's a really cool place. Not not sacred,

1915
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:40,440
Speaker 1: not hollowed, but very unique and uh and much appreciated

1916
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 1: by not only the Packer fans but also fans like

1917
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 1: the ones that I just read about. The Bills fans

1918
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 1: are guys. They told me when they sent me this letter,

1919
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 1: what a great weekend. The only thing that could have

1920
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 1: been better about the weekend, obviously was a Bill's win,

1921
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:55,600
Speaker 1: and they had to suffer through the shutout. But it

1922
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: was great experience for all, and it was a it's

1923
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:00,600
Speaker 1: a testament not only to Bills fans, but also to

1924
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: the Packer fans as well. I will confess I spent

1925
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 1: part of Sunday before the game in the area around

1926
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 1: the Bills locker room looking for the exact room where

1927
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker had that baloney sandwich when you got tossed

1928
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: out of the game, right right down. It was right

1929
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 1: outside the locker on the way to the field where

1930
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 1: you go down the stairs. I thought it right, there's

1931
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 1: right you come out is right on the run on

1932
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 1: the left douse you come out of the locker room. Yeah,

1933
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 1: it was a little pleasure, a little yes, a break, sir,

1934
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 1: and Neil's going to join this in the third and

1935
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:29,480
Speaker 1: final hour. If that's much more discussion about culture, talent strategy.

1936
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call, Steve and

1937
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 1: I back with more one Bill's Live from One Bill's

1938
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:42,839
Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio Loffalo Bills Radio Network stories

1939
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 1: date the update from One Bill's Drive where the Buffalo

1940
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 1: Bills have just finished their Thursday practice getting ready for

1941
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 1: their game against the Tennessee Titans. The Bills back home

1942
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 1: this week to play Tennessee Sunday afternoon at one o'clock.

1943
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: The weather forecast calling for considerable clouds and a chance

1944
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,799
Speaker 1: of rain for Sunday's game. The temperature in the low sixties.

1945
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 1: Bill's practice indoors today in anticipation of the rain on Sunday.

1946
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 1: In the rain here today in Orchard Park, and it

1947
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 1: appears that they're gonna have some issues at safety with

1948
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde again missing practice and also his backup Raphael

1949
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 1: Bush not practicing today. The official injury report scheduled to

1950
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 1: come out in the next a little bit or so.

1951
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 1: The Bills have those injuries to deal with as they

1952
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 1: get set to play Tennessee. They have a new defensive lineman,

1953
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, claimed off waivers yesterday, cut by the Miami

1954
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 1: Dolphins two days ago. Former second round pick of the Dolphins,

1955
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 1: Phillips six six, three hundred forty one pounder from Oklahoma.

1956
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 1: To make room for him, The Bills released defensive tackle

1957
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 1: Robert Thomas, who was signed a couple of weeks ago. Tonight,

1958
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,959
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football the Colts and the Patriots at Foxboro

1959
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 1: in New England, eight twenty kickoff tonight on Fox TV.

1960
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman gonna make his debut tonight for the New

1961
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 1: England Patriots. He has been out for four weeks with

1962
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 1: a peed suspension and the touring ACL they kept him

1963
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 1: out for the entire twenty seventeen season. Also for the Patriots,

1964
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 1: they expected they'll get Rob Gronkowski back in the lineup

1965
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 1: tonight despite an ankle injury. It's expected to be active,

1966
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: listed as questionable for the game. And for the Colts,

1967
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl wide receiver t Y Hilton has been ruled

1968
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 1: out of this game because of a hamstring injury. Injured

1969
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 1: his hamstring in the fourth quarter of India's loss to

1970
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 1: overtime lost at Houston last Sunday. Buffalo Sabers Hockey Tonight,

1971
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,639
Speaker 1: the Sabers home for their opener for the twenty eighteen

1972
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 1: twenty nine season. The Boston Bruins coming to town to

1973
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 1: Keybank Center seven o'clock. Face up tonight. Jack Chole yesterday

1974
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 1: named the captain for the Buffalo Sabers. Sabers will host

1975
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 1: a party an alumni plaza to celebrate opening night that

1976
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:34,839
Speaker 1: starts at five pm today. And baseball playoffs at Division

1977
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 1: Series in the National League Colorado in Milwaukee today at

1978
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 1: five oh seven and Game one of Atlanta and the

1979
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: Dodgers coming up at eight thirty seven tonight. That's the

1980
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy Steve Tasker in

1981
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 1: our one Buffalo Studio. Bill's practice is over for this Thursday.

1982
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: One more big day tomorrow than a walk through Saturday.

1983
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 1: Then the Tennessee Titans here on Sunday joining us in studio.

1984
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 1: Ready to talk about his role on this team. With

1985
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 1: a big sack last week. Happy to have Bill's rookie

1986
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 1: safety Sir and Neil inst with a surrant John Murphy

1987
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 1: and Steve here Haryer. I'm doing good, doing great thing.

1988
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: Took some extra reps after practice. Oh yeah, definitely over

1989
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 1: that with part. You're learning from what he does and

1990
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 1: you know how to attack and how to tackle and

1991
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So you're gonna you might have to

1992
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 1: play a bunch this week. I might have to, I

1993
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 1: might have to. I'm ready for it. You only had

1994
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: like eight players coming into this week, and all of

1995
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 1: a sudden you're looking like you might be the last

1996
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 1: guy standing. Yeah, that's what it is. My role was

1997
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 1: on the defense is to learn and when somebody goes down,

1998
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, take ownership and do my job. You're in

1999
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 1: Jacksonville the last couple of years. Tell us about your

2000
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 1: experience there. Oh, I love it. Jacksonville a very nice town,

2001
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 1: very quiet, very small, but definitely a good expense that,

2002
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 1: you know, love the fans and love the school. Jacksonville,

2003
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, had me playing a lot of roles on

2004
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,599
Speaker 1: the team and being a leader. So just taking up

2005
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 1: that ownership and doing my job. Do you know the

2006
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 1: one other person that was drafted by the Buffalo Bills

2007
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 1: from Jacksonville State? It was like in the nineteen seventies.

2008
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,600
Speaker 1: He's nineteen eighty. I can't remember his name. Was he

2009
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 1: a tight end? Yeah? Is tight? I can't remember his

2010
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 1: name though, good though, I gotta give him twenty seven

2011
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 1: Keith mckeller, teammate of Steves. Yeah, he he his claim

2012
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: to fame. Although he was really good player. He was

2013
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 1: also a good hoop player too. By the way. Yeah,

2014
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 1: he played hoops and they were on a national championship

2015
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 1: team with HUS at that level. Um he we nicknamed him.

2016
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 1: His name was Keith mckeller. We called him killer. We

2017
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 1: had this thing called the K gun back in the day.

2018
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 1: It was named ka because of mckeller because he was

2019
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 1: the tight end on the field. We go three, Yes,

2020
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 1: he'd be the tight end and there was the K

2021
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 1: guns the jackson Phil State alone, Sir, and Neil our

2022
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 1: gas bills safety. You I read this to the thirteenth

2023
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: player ever from Jacksonville State to be drafted the first

2024
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: and like five years. Yeah, you're not producing a ton

2025
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:48,639
Speaker 1: of NFL talented. You probably got a lot of attention

2026
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 1: when you find get a lot of attention. Uh definitely

2027
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:53,600
Speaker 1: came from that school with everybody proud of me and

2028
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 1: m got a lot of fans be pooring me, you know,

2029
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 1: depending on me to know do my thing. Go, Sir,

2030
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: you're from Alabama. I'm definitely from We're in Alabama. I'm

2031
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 1: from Abbyville, Alabama. Where's that. It was a small town

2032
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: near dos in Alabama and then like my senior year

2033
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 1: high school, I moved to you follow to five A.

2034
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you how do you spell? How

2035
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,479
Speaker 1: do you say that? High school? You follow? Follow? You follow?

2036
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 1: E U F A U Yeah, and where's that? Give

2037
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 1: me a bigger town in Alabama? Mobile? And I know

2038
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 1: Birmingham you got? You got Montgomery probably like forty minutes

2039
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: up the road from you follow? Okay, yeah, how did

2040
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: you make your way to Jacksonville State? Um? He getting

2041
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 1: recruited out of high school? You know, Uh, I wasn't.

2042
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 1: I was a very good player like my young years,

2043
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:37,799
Speaker 1: you know, nineteen crade. I had a lot of schools

2044
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 1: come talk to me and all that stuff, but I

2045
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 1: didn't have my act scores right and all that round

2046
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 1: about that time. And um, I had South Alabama come

2047
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 1: talk to me then. But South Alabama staff moved to Jacksonville,

2048
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,600
Speaker 1: and I kept pretty close with them. So when I

2049
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 1: didn't have any office left on the table, they you know,

2050
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 1: told me you were an old state wide receiver. When

2051
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 1: did you flip side the ball right away? I actually

2052
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 1: didn't catch. When I definitely catch, I definitely catch. It

2053
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:07,560
Speaker 1: wasn't they don't get switched the other side you can catch. It.

2054
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 1: Wasn't that they seen I see a highlight, h and

2055
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 1: you fall a high and they seen that I was

2056
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 1: a big thumper, I'll come downhill so and they loved that.

2057
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:16,560
Speaker 1: So they had to meet no see if I was

2058
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 1: gonna play receiver or safety. So they moved me to

2059
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:21,560
Speaker 1: safe safety and help out a lot. Siren Neil was

2060
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 1: our guests to Bill Safety, rookie safety fifth round draft

2061
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 1: pick um. Talk about your arrival here. What it's been

2062
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 1: like since you guys got here in May. I think

2063
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 1: it was early made when the rookie camp agin. Right, Oh, yeah,

2064
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 1: it's definitely been a grind. I've been definitely been a grind.

2065
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 1: The's coach been standing on me hard, you know, depending

2066
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 1: on me to do my job. My role is right

2067
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: now is you know, just learn everything I need to

2068
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 1: learn and develop well right now. It's funny you say

2069
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 1: that I was winding to my wife the other day. Man,

2070
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 1: I need a day off. The season is getting long

2071
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 1: in my wife ship. How should I could be a player?

2072
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, you're right, I'm gonna shut up. Right,

2073
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 1: you guys grind every day. We grind every day and

2074
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 1: even on the off days, were steal in here learning.

2075
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff to learn. Yeah, definitely, So

2076
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:00,640
Speaker 1: you haven't been playing much on defense, a couple of

2077
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 1: plays a game. What have you been mostly doing? Special teams?

2078
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 1: Definitely special team. I wanted them leading players on special

2079
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 1: teams with coach depending on me to do my job

2080
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:10,439
Speaker 1: on there. And you don't know, to be ahead hunter

2081
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 1: down on special team to be fair first, dynam make plays. Yeah, Seren,

2082
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 1: we saw it in some of the preseason and even

2083
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 1: in the early part of this regular season. There's certain

2084
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 1: before Mike got hurt anyway, there was a certain like

2085
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 1: defensive package that they used to in like kind of

2086
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 1: a big nickel type thing. Right, oh to midy in Jacksonville,

2087
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 1: are here here? Um, I never got moved to the

2088
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: big nickel role for right now. They just got me

2089
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: learning both positions strong safety and free safety, they said.

2090
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 1: As I keep growing and learning everything, they were moving around.

2091
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 1: So Mike could gets hurt last Sunday in Green Bay

2092
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 1: and then what do they city of that. They just

2093
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 1: looked at me and just said, look, go in, do

2094
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 1: your job and you know, line up. I talked to Party,

2095
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 1: just say, man, just we need to just come out.

2096
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 1: I told him I won't let them down. Yeah, you

2097
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 1: came in a sack on the first play, and uh,

2098
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny about that. Everybody looking at me

2099
01:39:58,000 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 1: like wow. We like every time you get in you

2100
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 1: get a sack, Like, what is it like even in

2101
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 1: the preseason you gotta sack. So just getting in and

2102
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 1: do my job and you know, make my um teammates happy. Yeah,

2103
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 1: you came from deep too? Is that part? How much

2104
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Speaker 1: have you learned? Because the reputation of hide and Poorer

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01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 1: is that they really wait a long time to show

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01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 1: that discussion, like they're a way out of position at

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01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 1: the snap and then stem into it and you on

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01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 1: your blitz. You came in from wade deep. Yeah. Um

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01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 1: going in the game, you know, especially from Aaron Rodgers.

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01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers very smart player. He's a Hall of Fame player,

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Speaker 1: future Hall of Fame player. And I knew if I

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01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 1: would have crept down, he would have called it out,

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Speaker 1: called a protection for I can't get the sack. So

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01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:37,000
Speaker 1: what I did was I skuised my scots long enough,

2115
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 1: and I knew I had speed to get there. So

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01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 1: that's what I did. When you were running through there,

2117
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 1: did you look at Aaron Rodgers in the eye. I

2118
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 1: looked him. He looked at me dead in my eye him.

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01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I got to get this one right.

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01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:51,679
Speaker 1: That means something. He's a future, right, So you gotta

2121
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 1: go out and go and find anybody who took a

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01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 1: picture of that. You know, you gotta get a picture

2123
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 1: of you sacking there. Roger, Oh, I could definitely got

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01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 1: to put I got like three four pictures. Yeah. Real,

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01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 1: that's a very you know, proud moment any one of

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01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 1: my first plays in the regular season first place that

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01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:11,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodger, you know, it's very cool. What what is

2128
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 1: this week been like where you're coming to work, you know,

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01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday and today of course, but what's it

2130
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 1: been like knowing that Mike has hurt? Raphael Bush looks

2131
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:20,640
Speaker 1: a little bit banged up. What's happened like for you?

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01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 1: This different? It really isn't different, you know, because, um,

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01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: you never know when somebody's gonna go down, you know,

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01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 1: preseason or regular season. So I prepare like I was

2135
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a starter every day, you know, getting in

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01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 1: the film room and you know, coach getting on me

2137
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 1: about a little small teams, getting a small team right

2138
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 1: in development right because they depending on me. What has

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01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,000
Speaker 1: been the message from your coaching staff about the Tennessee

2140
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 1: Titans about Tennessee's tightening to have a very you know,

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01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 1: physical team that try to you know, line up and

2142
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 1: bully you. You know, so it's very gonna be a

2143
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 1: very physical game coming in this game, you know, just

2144
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 1: doing what we gotta do to win. You know, they

2145
01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 1: got I was watching Tennessee last night. Uh, they got

2146
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 1: two guys Highsman Trophy winners. They can light up in

2147
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 1: the backfield. One of them, Derrick Henry, will amaze me.

2148
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 1: And you're an Alabama guy, you would have might appreciate this.

2149
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 1: I knew he was good, but I didn't realize how

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01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 1: big he was. For a guy that quick right now,

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01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 1: he's pretty huge. He's pretty huge, and he's quick. For

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01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 1: a guy that he pretty quick, He pretty quick downhill

2153
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 1: like going louder and stuff. You know that's something you

2154
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:21,600
Speaker 1: know we see and all that. But I know, just

2155
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 1: come down hill being physical on anybody, no matter the size. Yeah,

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01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: he's he's big, dude, He is big. They got a

2157
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 1: big game out of the receiver eighty four Corey Davis

2158
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 1: last week. You've probably seen some of that video. What

2159
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 1: do you see from him? He pretty big guy. UM

2160
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 1: a pretty big opponent or physical receiver. UM thing is,

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01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 1: you know, just got one of the top you know

2162
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:43,680
Speaker 1: corners in the league that can play against him. Um

2163
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,599
Speaker 1: and Trey, and I you know, really loved the way

2164
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 1: Trey playing. I know he can do a job. Have

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01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,680
Speaker 1: they talked to you about maybe different schemes if you're

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01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 1: going to be in the game, what they're able to do,

2167
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 1: or what maybe some of the guys behind you, different

2168
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 1: personnel packages that anticipate from the Titans. Um, you know,

2169
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 1: who's for you in the receiving for the Titans receiving corps.

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01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 1: Who most worries you guys, And who are the coaching

2171
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 1: staff saying, hey, you got to find this guy on

2172
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 1: the Titans. Oh, it's really it's really not a key

2173
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:14,560
Speaker 1: person we got to find on the Titans. It's just

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01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 1: basically learning the formation and lined up and doing our job.

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01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, that's what every opponent

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01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 1: I feel like, we lets line up, get our call,

2177
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 1: communicate to our job. You know, everything goes smooth. It's rain.

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01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,160
Speaker 1: You're probably you know, your first year player, rookie in

2179
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 1: the league and this is your first NFL experience and

2180
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: it's been a rough start for the Bills. One win

2181
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 1: of the first four games. How are you as a

2182
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 1: team kind of shielding yourself from all some of the

2183
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 1: negativity that's up in what people think about the start

2184
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 1: to the season. What are you guys doing as a

2185
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 1: team to block that out. I just feel like being

2186
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 1: on the inside out. This is our team. Don't nobody

2187
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 1: know what's going goes on inside these walls. So we're

2188
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 1: gonna love up on each other and fix the little things,

2189
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 1: fix the problems, because I mean, we're not losing because

2190
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:56,640
Speaker 1: the physicality. Were losing because of the little things. And

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01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 1: I feel like we just go into film room and

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01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 1: fix those things and you know, communicating, do all we

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01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 1: gotta do. We come on top no matter what the

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01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 1: record is. A couple of weeks ago, you went through

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01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 1: a tough game in Baltimore, then a first half against

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01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,760
Speaker 1: defensively against the Chargers, then since the second half of

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01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 1: that Charger game, through the Minnesota game for sure, and

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01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: then last week too holding the Packers to twenty two points,

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01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,839
Speaker 1: which is a pretty good number. Something changed in your defense?

2200
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 1: What was it an attitude? Was it just something where

2201
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 1: guys started playing better? What happened to your defense and

2202
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 1: how has it been able to improve? Week after week.

2203
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 1: I feel like we found something in the Chargers game

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01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 1: at that second half. We knew if we would came

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01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 1: out the first half and play like that, we would

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01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:36,680
Speaker 1: have came out on talk. I feel like we come

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01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 1: out that every game and play like we played that

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01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 1: half of that game, and you know, the Baltimore I

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01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 1: mean not the Baltimore game, but the Vikings game, and

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01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:46,680
Speaker 1: we'll just do our job and just do what we

2211
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: have to do to win. But I just think when

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01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:50,640
Speaker 1: we found that in that game, we felt something. We

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01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 1: found something very special on the defense, and we were

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01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 1: very physical team, fast, communicate like we were a very

2215
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:00,680
Speaker 1: sound team on We sound like we're untouchable. Ben here

2216
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 1: in Buffalo about five months. How do you like Buffalo

2217
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 1: so far? I'm loving Buffalo. It's almost like Jacksonville State,

2218
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 1: to be honest. Oh yeah, it is, especially like this business,

2219
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:12,799
Speaker 1: like this very blue, blue collar, just like Jacksonville. Buffalo

2220
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 1: is pretty. I mean it's not a big city, but

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01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 1: you know, come from Jacksonville and for me come from

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01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 1: a small town at home. It's kind of like Homie

2223
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 1: because it's hard. It's hard for you to trouble like her.

2224
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 1: You know, tell me about what did you think when

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01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 1: you came out of the tunnel for the Charger game,

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01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: it is finally a home game, and now what are

2227
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 1: you looking forward to for this home game? Oh Man,

2228
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 1: when I came at that tunnel, I mean, it was beautiful,

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01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:39,560
Speaker 1: It was beautiful. I told myself, it's gonna be a

2230
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 1: nice career for me. I told myself it's gonna be

2231
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 1: a nice career. Every time that I get an opportunity,

2232
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take advantage of it. And that's my word.

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01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give my fans what they come to look for.

2234
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 1: What about the city made you think about your career?

2235
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 1: Just you know that scene that you saw, oh man,

2236
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:58,680
Speaker 1: just to the fans, the fans out here that they're beautiful. Man,

2237
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 1: they love of us, and I loved him back, you know,

2238
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 1: just that Spantons come out there and they ruin on us,

2239
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 1: and you know, for us to go out there and

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01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 1: win and take on any opponent that come this feelage.

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01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 1: That's exciting. You must be excited about another chance to

2242
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 1: do it this Sunday. Oh yeah, we definitely got to

2243
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 1: win this this Sunday and I'm looking forward to it. Seran,

2244
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 1: thanks for that's great to have you and we appreciate

2245
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 1: it coming in sirend Neil Bill's safety. Make it a

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01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 1: chance to play a lot this week with some of

2247
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 1: the injuries they have. Steve and I talking more about

2248
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 1: the game when we return One Bill's Live from One

2249
01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: That's what OBL meets John Murphy Steve Chansker from One

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01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. Here until three o'clock today, the Bill's practice

2252
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 1: is over. We'll get the injury report coming up. I

2253
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:44,760
Speaker 1: would think sometime before we go off the ard. Let's

2254
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,759
Speaker 1: hope and sirend Neil seems like a good kid, Steve,

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01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 1: I like it seems um unphased by the opportunity that's

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01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 1: in front of him. He might start right, he could

2257
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:59,680
Speaker 1: stay first NFL start. Yeah, and you know, you get

2258
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 1: him on here thinking it might be the case. We

2259
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 1: might hear from him on Sunday on the field as

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01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:06,560
Speaker 1: well as one of Bills Live on a Thursday. I

2261
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 1: don't know, but yeah, we'll see he handled this well. Yeah,

2262
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 1: he was a bigger step up on Sunday against Tannessey

2263
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 1: t tougher crowd. Yeah, Stuffer, yeah, thank you and me

2264
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 1: we're talking to the crowd today and it's our it's

2265
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll topic. Let's replay Sean McDermott. This is

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01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 1: what got it all started. Yesterday. Mcdermot's a morning news

2267
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 1: conference yesterday right before practice, and he got asked a

2268
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 1: question about you know where they're at at one and

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01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,560
Speaker 1: three and how much attention do you pay to the

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01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 1: Bills culture and all of that. Sean had a very

2271
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 1: interesting answer. I know it was controversial an earlier caller

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01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 1: who said the controversy, I don't know it was their

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01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 1: controversy about it. I thought it was interesting. I thought

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01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 1: it was an interesting kind of a revelation of what

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01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:46,679
Speaker 1: the way McDermott thinks. But here he is talking about

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01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 1: developing culture and developing the culture of this Bills team

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01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 1: right now. We're trying to develop a culture here and

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01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:58,600
Speaker 1: the culture to meet Trump's strategy. And that's that's what

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01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 1: I believe in wholeheartedly. And it doesn't mean we have

2280
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 1: choir boys. It means we've got guys that love football

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01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 1: and do the things the right way for the most part. Interesting.

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01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting. Um And by the way,

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01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 1: because we've had some people may be confused about what

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01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 1: he means by culture. He explained, it doesn't mean we

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01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 1: have choir boys. We have people who love football and

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01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:18,400
Speaker 1: I want to do things the right way. But the

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01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 1: part that got us going today, Steve and I heard

2288
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 1: it yesterday and said huh, and then today we got

2289
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:26,560
Speaker 1: a whole show out of it culture Trump's strategy. Do

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01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 1: you agree with that? I do. I think culture is

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01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 1: more important than strategy. I don't think culture is more

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01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 1: important than than talent. I would rank them this way.

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01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,719
Speaker 1: Talent followed closely behind by team culture, followed by strategy.

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01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:43,560
Speaker 1: Culture Club over here, boy, George, number one, right, I

2295
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:46,719
Speaker 1: don't agree culture is number one. And I agree because

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01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:48,679
Speaker 1: here's the thing. We're talking about the National Football League,

2297
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:50,720
Speaker 1: and I know other people, and we've got fans in

2298
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 1: sixty six percent of the fan two thirds of the

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01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 1: people out there agree with the talent thing. But my

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01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 1: point is, and we got and I got confirmation of this,

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01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 1: and so as did you. Murf from Kurt Warner when

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01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 1: he called, and listen, talent is a given across the NFL.

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01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 1: Everybody's got talent, and so the thing that separates one

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01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 1: team from another at that level that this level is

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01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 1: the culture. More so than the talent. And that's that's

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01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 1: the difference. And I go back. I said this yesterday.

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01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:19,559
Speaker 1: I'll refer to it again. Marv Levy said told us

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01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 1: one time, said, listen to the difference between the best

2309
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 1: team and the worst team in the NFL is only

2310
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:26,800
Speaker 1: two percent. And that but he said, listen, that two

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01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:29,640
Speaker 1: percent is one hundred percent of the difference. That one

2312
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 1: hundred percent is culture. It is what is the atmosphere

2313
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 1: and the environment that you create in your building. That's

2314
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:41,240
Speaker 1: different than the Jets. That's different than the Patriots, that's

2315
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 1: different than the Dolphins, that's different from the Rams. That

2316
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,680
Speaker 1: difference is what makes you better or worse than your

2317
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 1: opponents in the NFL, because the talent is so evenly

2318
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 1: spread on Twitter. On our Twitter poll, it's worth noting

2319
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:56,599
Speaker 1: that most respondents, more than twenty one hundred respondents say

2320
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 1: talent is most important. I think they're all three important,

2321
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 1: by the way, But sixty six percent two thirds of

2322
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:04,680
Speaker 1: the respondent say talents number one, followed by strategy number two.

2323
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: I disagree with that, followed by culture number three, and

2324
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 1: then something else other. My culture is like in last place. Yeah,

2325
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 1: come on, folks, Well I'm going to ask you this.

2326
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 1: Let me take your call here. No, I know what

2327
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:19,680
Speaker 1: you're saying. I've been on the line from Buffalo. I

2328
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 1: got a question for you on that too. I even

2329
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Hey, guys, how are

2330
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:26,679
Speaker 1: you doing good? Uh? First, someone to start off and say, Steve,

2331
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 1: that's a great story that you that you share with us. Truly,

2332
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 1: if the whole country can be on board, it will

2333
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 1: be a better place. UM. I want to also just

2334
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 1: make a comment on today's topic, and I want to

2335
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 1: say that you need both. You need talent and you

2336
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 1: need culture. But I agree with you Burds that you

2337
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 1: need talent first and culture come second. You can always

2338
01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 1: develop culture, you know, you can preach exces and those

2339
01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 1: you can preach principles and worlds. But if you're not winning,

2340
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,679
Speaker 1: if you don't have um talent on your team, don't

2341
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 1: want to what a you're going to listen to that

2342
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 1: you know what it is that you're that you're treating.

2343
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 1: So you have to have talent. You have to already

2344
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 1: have talent on the team. And then as guys come

2345
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 1: on a team, you know from other places, whether you

2346
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 1: draft them or do you bring in free agents. Then

2347
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:15,960
Speaker 1: it can fall in line what's what's the culture that

2348
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:18,560
Speaker 1: is being developed. But if you don't have talent, you know,

2349
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:21,840
Speaker 1: and you just got culture there, you can say what

2350
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:23,720
Speaker 1: you want. If you're not winning games, no one's going

2351
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:26,040
Speaker 1: to play for you. Does It's interesting? I mean, thank you.

2352
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 1: You know what happens to you if you don't have

2353
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 1: talent and you're not winning. And in the NFL, if

2354
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 1: you're not winning soon, you don't get a chance. If

2355
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 1: your coaches stick around and develop culture many oh yeah, right,

2356
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 1: and sometimes and it is a debate as well that

2357
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:40,680
Speaker 1: happens even within I talked to the guys I played with,

2358
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 1: and we were known for the culture we had as

2359
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 1: well as the talent, which is which and I and

2360
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:48,640
Speaker 1: I related the story earlier in the show about the

2361
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine Buffalo Bills where they were called the

2362
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 1: Bickering Bills, and it was the exact opposite the bad culture.

2363
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 1: They had a bad culture. It was toxic and they

2364
01:51:57,600 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 1: couldn't get out of their own way. And while they

2365
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:02,839
Speaker 1: were extremely talented and did indeed back into the playoffs.

2366
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 1: We got in the playoffs, but we're in the wildcard round.

2367
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 1: We got put out the first round that for those

2368
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 1: people of vintage of like Murph and I, I mean

2369
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 1: it was the Ronnie Harmon drop. It was the phenomenal

2370
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 1: game against Cleveland Browns with Bernie Kozar and those guys.

2371
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:23,639
Speaker 1: It was a great game. The Browns won. Ultimately, our

2372
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 1: culture on that team was, like I said, toxic. The

2373
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 1: same roster came back the next year and was phenomenal

2374
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 1: because the culture had changed. The culture had shifted because

2375
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:40,800
Speaker 1: of the great players on that team, because of some

2376
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,600
Speaker 1: players that were no longer there and some players that

2377
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 1: were added. Things changed dramatically in the chemistry of that

2378
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 1: locker room, how guys interacted in the locker room, what

2379
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 1: it meant to be in that locker room. And with

2380
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 1: virtually the same largely the same roster, let alone the

2381
01:52:57,080 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 1: key players in place, that team went on a four

2382
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,240
Speaker 1: year Super Bowl run. That's you know, it's legendary here

2383
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. So you know, there's an example there that

2384
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 1: of what happens when you know, the same kind of

2385
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 1: talent has culture and doesn't. What do you make of this, Steve,

2386
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm We're gonna get to more calls on this topic.

2387
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 1: It's an interesting topic. It almost feels like a also

2388
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 1: it was like an offseason topic. You know what I mean.

2389
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 1: We'll come back to it. Yeah, we'll come back. Ye,

2390
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 1: save this, save this SoundBite from McDermott, will come back.

2391
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 1: What do you make of this though, um sixty six

2392
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 1: percent of people responding on Twitter say talent, and as

2393
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 1: you point out, culture is last right in our Twitter poll. Yeah,

2394
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 1: many of the phone respondents, including our last one i've been,

2395
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:40,640
Speaker 1: say talent, which you know, people have different ideas. I

2396
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 1: understand that, But why is it that you and Kurt

2397
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 1: Warner and coach McGinnis go right to culture and those

2398
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:48,800
Speaker 1: of us who are not, you know, a former player

2399
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:50,920
Speaker 1: or coach in the NFL look at talent. I don't

2400
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 1: nobody said really, scheme or strategy. What are we missing

2401
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 1: as outsiders is what I'm trying to ask you. What

2402
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:59,600
Speaker 1: do we miss? You're missing that I've witnessed, and I

2403
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:02,600
Speaker 1: know McGinnis and Kurt Warner and all the players that

2404
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,720
Speaker 1: you who've been on great teams. You miss the way

2405
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 1: that culture elevates the bottom half of a roster. Whether

2406
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 1: the bottom half is talented or not, they become elevated

2407
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 1: by the culture that they're existing in. The culture brings

2408
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 1: them to work better every day, and it sends them

2409
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 1: home even better than that, and they come back better

2410
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:24,679
Speaker 1: the next day. It builds on itself and it gets

2411
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 1: the bottom of your roster to be more productive around

2412
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:32,760
Speaker 1: star players who are talented. Every team or most of

2413
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 1: the teams for instance, for sure, the teams that are

2414
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 1: in the playoffs or the teams that are winning a

2415
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 1: lot of games have a lot of talented players, star players.

2416
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:44,160
Speaker 1: But can those players and new the culture those players

2417
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 1: exist in elevate the rest of the roster to win

2418
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 1: at an ultimate team game because it is all about

2419
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 1: the That's why coaches think, you know, they gotta have

2420
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 1: the right forty five guys. Forty six guys on game day,

2421
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:58,880
Speaker 1: all of them play in the NFL. It's not like

2422
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:01,280
Speaker 1: in high school where you he got sixty guys and

2423
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 1: thirty of them play in the NFL. All every guy

2424
01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:07,879
Speaker 1: on the roster, except maybe the third quarterback or second quarterback,

2425
01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 1: they're on the field. It is the ultimate team game.

2426
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 1: And that's why the star players who elevate the other guys,

2427
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 1: the others on the roster to be better than they

2428
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 1: otherwise would elevates the entire team so that these star

2429
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 1: players get even more credit for being star because the

2430
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:28,920
Speaker 1: rest of their roster elevates them as well. So we

2431
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: said on the outside, that's hard to see on the outside,

2432
01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:34,880
Speaker 1: is how much better the bottom of a roster plays

2433
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 1: with a culture than just guys at the bottom of

2434
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 1: roster riding the coattails of a great player. Didn't think

2435
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 1: about that. That's interesting point, Eli and Buffalo on the

2436
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 1: line of us. Hello, Eli, go ahead, Welcome to the show. Hi, gentlemen,

2437
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:53,320
Speaker 1: thanks for the show. Appreciated every day. My point actually

2438
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:55,800
Speaker 1: has to do with what Steve was mentioning about the

2439
01:55:55,920 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Bills teams. Now, granted, obviously, Steve, you were there.

2440
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 1: I was not even born yet. But in looking back

2441
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:08,000
Speaker 1: at it, and you know, watching all of my football

2442
01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:11,840
Speaker 1: life episodes and so on, it seems to me that

2443
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 1: there was a pretty a pretty big other significant change

2444
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:18,720
Speaker 1: that happened from eighty nine to ninety and that was

2445
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 1: how the Bills got beat. In eighty nine, they got

2446
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 1: beat by a Bengals team that was using a no

2447
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 1: huddle offense, and Marb believe he saw that and realized

2448
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 1: that he was the genius of a no huddle offense

2449
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:38,080
Speaker 1: and implemented it on the Bills and then kind of

2450
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 1: a revolutionary and unique scheme slash coaching change in how

2451
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:46,920
Speaker 1: he was coaching really kind of elevated that team to

2452
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:50,560
Speaker 1: something that no one had ever seen before. Granted that, Steve,

2453
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 1: you were there. Yeah, that's an excellent point. So what

2454
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 1: are you saying strategy made a big difference, do you?

2455
01:56:56,560 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 1: I you first, Oh, yeah, sorry, I think that I

2456
01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 1: don't want to put away that there was culture on

2457
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 1: that team, and you know, obviously it's it's something that

2458
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 1: I actually really love the culture argument because it says

2459
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 1: kind of what you were saying Steve as well, that

2460
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 1: it elevates someone it helps them be the best player

2461
01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 1: they can be. But even being a better player, realizing

2462
01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 1: you can be better, realizing you can be better as

2463
01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 1: a team, that doesn't give you more talent. It just

2464
01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:29,760
Speaker 1: helps you live that well, it just helps you be

2465
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 1: your best self kind of. So that's why I think,

2466
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 1: in regard to what you just said, Steve about the talent,

2467
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 1: how you answered a Murse question about talent, I think

2468
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 1: the reason that US outsiders are saying talent is because

2469
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 1: we don't have talent. We don't have the talent to

2470
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 1: be an NFL player so we see that and maybe

2471
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 1: because you you do have the talent and you're in

2472
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 1: there in the room, that's maybe not what you're focusing

2473
01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 1: on as much. I don't I don't know, just an idea. Yeah,

2474
01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:58,480
Speaker 1: it could be, and it's certainly is a different point

2475
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 1: of view from a guy who played and from somebody

2476
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:03,080
Speaker 1: who didn't. But and it's a great point you bring

2477
01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 1: up about the strategy of of a coach like Marv

2478
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 1: Levy and Teddy Marcher Broda installing and a K gun

2479
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 1: no huddle attack, that it was unusual at that point,

2480
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:15,440
Speaker 1: particularly to go to it as much as that team

2481
01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 1: did and to use it to the effect that they

2482
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:20,880
Speaker 1: did that strategy and a lot of people give that

2483
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:22,800
Speaker 1: a lot of credit. Well let's stop right there. Let

2484
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 1: me how much did the k gun offense? It was funny.

2485
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:28,360
Speaker 1: We were just talking to Serena Neil about it. How

2486
01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 1: how much did that have to do with the success

2487
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 1: of your team? Was it? And it's critical? I don't

2488
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 1: know that it was critical, But I'll tell you what.

2489
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 1: It made it easier. I mean, we had something no

2490
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 1: one knew how to defend. It was noon, it was different.

2491
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 1: Plus we had great players and the coaching staff to say,

2492
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:45,080
Speaker 1: you know what, let's go now. I'm not saying that

2493
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly, Andre Reid, Thurman, Thomas, Bruce Smith, I mean

2494
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 1: James Lofton. I mean we could have taken our time

2495
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 1: and scored every every series too. Right, we did have talent,

2496
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 1: but it did make for a great strategy in that

2497
01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:03,400
Speaker 1: not only did they have talent, but they also had

2498
01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:09,400
Speaker 1: guys who that strategy was right in their wheelhouse Andre

2499
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 1: Reid and a slot receiver as an oversized, quick laterally

2500
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 1: gifted wide receiver with hands at a place where not

2501
01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 1: too many teams ran that much three wide and we

2502
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 1: ran it all the time. And to have a quarterback

2503
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 1: like Jim who loved going fast and calling his own

2504
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 1: plays and letting in a coaching staff like Marvin Teddy

2505
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:34,120
Speaker 1: allowing those players to do what they did best and

2506
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 1: do what they'd liked because it gave them an enthusiasm,

2507
01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:41,400
Speaker 1: and that you know, that permeated that that team. Yeah,

2508
01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 1: those guys were talented, no question about it. I don't

2509
01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 1: know that they wouldn't have been just success as successful

2510
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 1: running more conventional offense. They were pretty good. Yeah right, Yeah,

2511
01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 1: so I think the K gun was more about our

2512
01:59:57,440 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 1: opponents not being able to handle it than it was,

2513
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 1: you know, the fact that, yeah, that not only the

2514
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 1: fact that they were talented guys running it. Um talking.

2515
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:08,920
Speaker 1: An interesting question though. It's a great point by Eli

2516
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:11,480
Speaker 1: to bring it up. Sean McDermott brought it up yesterday

2517
02:00:11,560 --> 02:00:15,320
Speaker 1: when he said the quote was culture to me, Trump's strategy.

2518
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:17,960
Speaker 1: What about to you? Is it culture? Primary? Is that

2519
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:21,160
Speaker 1: strategy is a talent? Give us a call. Let's discuss.

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Speaker 1: A caller on the line, Rex in Tonawana. Hello, Rex,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, and you're on the air with us. Hey, guys, Yes, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this quote is a little bit alarming if you ask me, um,

2523
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:34,800
Speaker 1: we're we're here to win games. We're here to win championships.

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02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:37,000
Speaker 1: And the way that you do that is through talents

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02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 1: on the field combined with good coaching. So it is alarming.

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Speaker 1: Why is it alarming? You're saying it's not debatable. Here's

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Speaker 1: an NFL head coach, joined by an NFL a Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Hall of famers Kurt Warner and today on our show,

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Speaker 1: and a former NFL coach and a guy over here

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02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:57,000
Speaker 1: who's been the seven Pro Bowls who disagree with you?

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02:00:57,160 --> 02:00:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you're saying it's not debatable, it's we can't

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02:00:59,240 --> 02:01:03,480
Speaker 1: even you sound like it's it's a foregun conclusion. I

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02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:06,960
Speaker 1: guess there's a fan, um, you know, a disgruntled fan.

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02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:10,120
Speaker 1: I just want to I'm a disgruntled fan. Go ahead,

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02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 1: It's just funny people describe themselves good. How you feeling

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02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm feeling disgruntled. I'm sorry, go ahead, Rex, But I

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02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:23,200
Speaker 1: guess you know what's frustration boiling over? You know, we

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02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:25,080
Speaker 1: just we just want to see a good product on

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02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:27,760
Speaker 1: the field, and I think we don't want to hold

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Speaker 1: ourselves back to doing what we can to put the

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02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:32,960
Speaker 1: best product on the field and giving us the best

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Speaker 1: chance at winning. And I know culture is part of it,

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02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:39,160
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's more important than having the

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02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:42,520
Speaker 1: best talent and having a true identity on your team.

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02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:45,080
Speaker 1: And let me say this, that's not McDermot said, right

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02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 1: the quote his quote. Maybe we'll get into it more

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02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:51,480
Speaker 1: with him sometimes His quote was culture Trump's strategy. I

2548
02:01:51,480 --> 02:01:53,360
Speaker 1: don't know how he feels about talent where that belongs

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02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:56,960
Speaker 1: that in that spectrum, right, right? That's true that no

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02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:58,760
Speaker 1: one's won a Super Bowl by you know, being a

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02:01:58,880 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 1: nice guy. Though you know, we uh we I know

2552
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:06,720
Speaker 1: it's important to have a good locker room and positive

2553
02:02:06,760 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 1: influences in the locker room, but at the end of

2554
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:12,160
Speaker 1: the day, we gotta win. We gotta you know, I

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02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:13,920
Speaker 1: think one of the one of the things go ahead.

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02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:17,040
Speaker 1: He said it. He said, I'm not talking about having

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02:02:17,120 --> 02:02:18,920
Speaker 1: choir boys. You know, he's not talking about having the

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02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, people who are great, little great guys. He's

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02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:23,480
Speaker 1: talking about people who really love to play the game.

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02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:25,160
Speaker 1: You know, what can we play? Let's play the quote

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Speaker 1: quote one more time. It's a short one. Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: yesterday when he says culture Trump's strategy. Listen to what

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02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:32,520
Speaker 1: he says after he says that phrase. Here it is,

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02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:36,839
Speaker 1: we're trying to develop a culture here in the culture

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02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:41,800
Speaker 1: to meet Trump's strategy. And uh, that's that's what I

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Speaker 1: believe in wholeheartedly. And it doesn't mean we have choir boys.

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02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:47,560
Speaker 1: It means we've got guys that love football and do

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Speaker 1: the things the right way for the most part. Rex,

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Speaker 1: what do you think of that? Guys that love football

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02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:54,120
Speaker 1: and do the things for the right way. I could

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Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody could really have a big

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Speaker 1: problem with that. I think McDermot wants the same thing

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Speaker 1: you want. Rex. As a matter of fact, Oh, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I I do. You know, I do agree. Yeah, loving

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02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:08,400
Speaker 1: the game is a big part of it. And UM

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02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:11,840
Speaker 1: yeah I don't. I guess I don't disagree with him

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02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 1: when when it comes to that, but I just want

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02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:18,280
Speaker 1: to make sure we're not shorts, you know, short arming

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02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:21,680
Speaker 1: ourselves and uh limiting ourselves to the players that we

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02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:26,080
Speaker 1: could have on this team. And UM, yeah, I guess, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I guess that's not the most important thing.

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02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:33,320
Speaker 1: But uh right, it's hard to it's and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this, Rex. We've been debating this today at length,

2584
02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:39,560
Speaker 1: and I think it's it's interesting too that you know,

2585
02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:42,200
Speaker 1: you can make an argument for any one of the three.

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02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:44,680
Speaker 1: And I think the one thing that most people will

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02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:47,600
Speaker 1: argue in favor of as being the most important is

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02:03:47,640 --> 02:03:50,040
Speaker 1: the one thing your team doesn't have, or the one

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02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:53,200
Speaker 1: thing that you perceive it doesn't have. Um. And also

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02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:55,960
Speaker 1: you can't and we all acknowledge too. And I know

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02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:57,960
Speaker 1: Murph is the same way. We've heard callers say this,

2592
02:03:58,040 --> 02:04:00,480
Speaker 1: and some people feeding get him his feedback on Twitter

2593
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:03,480
Speaker 1: say the same thing. You can't just totally go all

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Speaker 1: in on one of these attributes in culture, strategy of

2595
02:04:06,640 --> 02:04:10,600
Speaker 1: talent at the total disregard for the other two. You

2596
02:04:10,680 --> 02:04:13,520
Speaker 1: can't just go all in on culture and forget about talent.

2597
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:16,520
Speaker 1: And we've seen examples in the NFL work teams try

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02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:19,120
Speaker 1: to buy all these players in free agency and do

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Speaker 1: all that and they the total expensive culture and just

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Speaker 1: going with strategy. Because even in today's game, the Rams

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Speaker 1: have spent a ton of money on talent this year

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Speaker 1: and they're winning all these games. But they've got a

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Speaker 1: great strategy and a young quarterback, a great head coach

2604
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:37,240
Speaker 1: who's who's got an innovative look at offenses. It's player friendly,

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02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:40,640
Speaker 1: simple for quarterbacks to understand and assimilate and execute, and

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02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:43,520
Speaker 1: they're reaping the benefits for it. So talent and strategy

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02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:46,040
Speaker 1: have really played well in the Rams. And like a

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Speaker 1: lot of people have pointed out, when you're winning, you

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Speaker 1: don't need culture, right, I mean it is culture. You

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Speaker 1: know what some people think and thanks for your called

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02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:56,200
Speaker 1: by the way, Rex Steve, I will say this, and

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02:04:56,240 --> 02:04:57,920
Speaker 1: I've heard this, and I'm willing to think about it.

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02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:00,840
Speaker 1: Some people think that when you start win, then you

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02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:03,480
Speaker 1: start identifying your team as having culture. Look at us

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02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:05,840
Speaker 1: we're winning. I mean, you could see, right, the Rams

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02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 1: run in some questionable guys and Dominican sue. Yes. But

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Speaker 1: if the Rams continue on the track they're on, they're

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02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:13,920
Speaker 1: gonna have a great season, a really good season. At

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Speaker 1: the end of the year, the Ram's gonna say we

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02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:18,920
Speaker 1: won because we have culture. They probably could get away

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Speaker 1: with it. Right. Many people think when you stay whatever

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Speaker 1: they want when you win. You know, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. You start winning, then all of a sudden,

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02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:26,240
Speaker 1: your culture is great too. I don't know if I

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02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:28,640
Speaker 1: believe that. And I'm saying and I'll say this as well.

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Speaker 1: You get these teams that are very talented and all that,

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Speaker 1: but they you know, they can't go the distance because

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Speaker 1: there's something's missing. Then you have these teams, well, for instance,

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Speaker 1: like the Patriots, who have this great strategy of they're

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02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 1: not the most physically talented team, and yet their culture

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02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:46,960
Speaker 1: and their strategy seem to carry them a long way

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Speaker 1: every year, and they do get to a lot of

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls because they have strategy and culture their talent.

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Speaker 1: They have one talented guy, what Tom Brady. He's forty

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02:05:54,160 --> 02:05:56,400
Speaker 1: and I've watched him. He's not the same guy who

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02:05:56,520 --> 02:05:59,480
Speaker 1: was five years ago. I watched it last Sunday against

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02:05:59,480 --> 02:06:03,840
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins in a blowout win for his team.

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02:06:04,400 --> 02:06:07,720
Speaker 1: He was not the reason. Their defense was the reason

2639
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:11,000
Speaker 1: they won that game against the Dolphins. But that culture

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02:06:11,840 --> 02:06:16,040
Speaker 1: has been and that strategy is in such a place.

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Speaker 1: Is that it trump's a lot of people that come

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02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:22,560
Speaker 1: in there with more talented teams. That's the Patriots do that.

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02:06:23,120 --> 02:06:25,520
Speaker 1: And so you can take culture and all that and

2644
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:28,080
Speaker 1: you can you can mix these all up. If you

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Speaker 1: have two of those three and you can pick the

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02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:32,480
Speaker 1: ones you want. Do you have those two of those

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Speaker 1: three and you've got a ton of them, You're gonna

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Speaker 1: win some games. You're gonna win a lot of games.

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Speaker 1: Take a call here from Rick and Denver. Hello, Rick,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Hey guys, you know, one of

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Speaker 1: the things that think's getting lost in this is that

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02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:47,560
Speaker 1: culture is a reflection of leadership. So if you take

2653
02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:49,880
Speaker 1: a look, let's face it, the NFL is a business,

2654
02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:52,560
Speaker 1: and any business that's run you know, I don't know

2655
02:06:52,640 --> 02:06:55,040
Speaker 1: if you guys are familiar with John Maxwell. He writes

2656
02:06:55,040 --> 02:06:57,920
Speaker 1: a lot of folks on leadership, and you know, one

2657
02:06:57,960 --> 02:07:00,960
Speaker 1: of the laws that he writes is connect. It's you know,

2658
02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:03,080
Speaker 1: nobody cares how much you know until they know how

2659
02:07:03,160 --> 02:07:07,880
Speaker 1: much you care. And I think that's what McDermott's talking about,

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Speaker 1: is that the only person that's responsible for the culture

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02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:16,200
Speaker 1: is him. Leslie Frazier can't do it, Dabel can't do it.

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02:07:16,440 --> 02:07:18,840
Speaker 1: Bagoula can't do it. It's got to come from the

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Speaker 1: head coach. And you know what, you know, Steve, You've

2664
02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:25,360
Speaker 1: been on teams that have been very talented, that have

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02:07:25,480 --> 02:07:28,360
Speaker 1: had a toxic culture, and then you've got a culture

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02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:30,920
Speaker 1: where you guys are like a brotherhood right now. And

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Speaker 1: it's all the reflection of Mark Levy. He's the one

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02:07:33,560 --> 02:07:36,760
Speaker 1: that implemented it. And so I think fans are looking

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02:07:36,840 --> 02:07:39,320
Speaker 1: at the team as far as what, you know, what

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02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:41,840
Speaker 1: they perceive what we need to win, and I think

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Speaker 1: McDermott looks at it like, you know what, I got

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02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:48,200
Speaker 1: to make sure my players are mentally tough so that

2673
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:50,760
Speaker 1: when we're down by two touchdowns, they're not folding their

2674
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:53,680
Speaker 1: tents and packing it in. And I gotta have guys

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02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:55,720
Speaker 1: that are going to do the right things, you know,

2676
02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:58,720
Speaker 1: character what are they doing when I'm not watching them?

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Speaker 1: I mean, those are all reflection of culture, and I

2678
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:03,600
Speaker 1: think that's what he's trying to convey to the fans

2679
02:08:03,720 --> 02:08:06,240
Speaker 1: as well as to the team. That's a great point.

2680
02:08:06,640 --> 02:08:09,120
Speaker 1: You're right. The leadership of the team does set the culture,

2681
02:08:09,320 --> 02:08:12,280
Speaker 1: and a coach like Sean McDermott wants to bring guys

2682
02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:14,640
Speaker 1: in who are like minded as he is, not only

2683
02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:17,080
Speaker 1: on its coaching staff, but guys like Kyle Williams and

2684
02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:20,840
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer and and Lorenzo Alexander, guys

2685
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:24,120
Speaker 1: like that who will be a part of the solution

2686
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:27,720
Speaker 1: in every situation. They'll be able to step back and say, Okay, guys,

2687
02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:29,480
Speaker 1: this is our attack and this is what we're going

2688
02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:33,440
Speaker 1: to take from this situation going forward. That's what a

2689
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:35,360
Speaker 1: head coach does. That's what my head coach did, and

2690
02:08:35,440 --> 02:08:37,480
Speaker 1: that's what Sean McDermott is doing now. And to bring

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Speaker 1: in players who share that sets the culture. Rick's exactly right.

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02:08:41,880 --> 02:08:43,600
Speaker 1: It's a it's a reflection of the head coach and

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02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:47,240
Speaker 1: their leadership. And every successful group, whether it's a football

2694
02:08:47,240 --> 02:08:49,400
Speaker 1: team or a business, starts with the people at the

2695
02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:52,160
Speaker 1: top who lead and are they inclusive, do they care

2696
02:08:52,720 --> 02:09:01,960
Speaker 1: and does that foster caring investment by his employees or

2697
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:04,800
Speaker 1: by his team, by his players, and that's you're right.

2698
02:09:04,880 --> 02:09:07,360
Speaker 1: He's right. This culture is set by the head coach.

2699
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Speaker 1: And that's why probably Sean McDermott is the top of

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02:09:09,440 --> 02:09:11,480
Speaker 1: his list, because he knows it's part of his It's

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02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:13,680
Speaker 1: one of the important job parts of his job. Hey,

2702
02:09:13,960 --> 02:09:16,360
Speaker 1: we gotta get a little uh NFL true and false

2703
02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:19,120
Speaker 1: in here. It is presented by Yancey's Fancy New York's

2704
02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:23,040
Speaker 1: artist and cheese true or false quickly. Steve Julian Edelman

2705
02:09:23,120 --> 02:09:25,720
Speaker 1: comes back to New England Patriots tonight. As a matter

2706
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:28,080
Speaker 1: of fact, when they take on Indianapolis. Edelman back after

2707
02:09:28,240 --> 02:09:30,960
Speaker 1: his suspension and the knee injury. It's been over your

2708
02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:33,680
Speaker 1: years since he's played well. Edelman have the biggest impact

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02:09:33,760 --> 02:09:35,960
Speaker 1: of any of the returning players who got jamis Winston,

2710
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 1: who came back last week. Montes Berfect mark Ingram goes

2711
02:09:39,680 --> 02:09:42,560
Speaker 1: back to the Saints after four games out. Among returning players,

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Speaker 1: Edelman will make the biggest impact. I say false, I

2713
02:09:45,160 --> 02:09:47,160
Speaker 1: think it'll be mark Ingram with the Saints. What do

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02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:51,560
Speaker 1: you think? I would say yes, because I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Edelman, because I think He's

2716
02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:55,960
Speaker 1: the one missing piece that is really going to make

2717
02:09:56,160 --> 02:09:58,840
Speaker 1: that offense for New England click a little better than

2718
02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:01,040
Speaker 1: it did now. Certainly they had an enormous day against

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02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, but everything was working for him against

2720
02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:06,960
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and I do think Edelman coming back gives

2721
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:10,480
Speaker 1: them one more way to win on the outside and

2722
02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:12,520
Speaker 1: in their passing game that they didn't have, and they

2723
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 1: were starting to work around the fact that Edelman wasn't there.

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02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:20,040
Speaker 1: I think when they started to expand things around Edelman's absence,

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Speaker 1: it's going to make them better when Edelman does come back.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Edelman will make a better a

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Speaker 1: bigger impact than either those the guys. Hard to say

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Speaker 1: that with Jamis Winston on that list, Yeah, because he

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Speaker 1: is a quarterback, But I will still go there. And

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Speaker 1: one more from NFL true and false. This one is bizarre.

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Speaker 1: I think Tennessee Titans will make the super Bowl. They're

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Speaker 1: three and one, they've won three in a row. Titans

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Speaker 1: are going to the super Bowl. Really, that was the

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Speaker 1: assertion in a piece that went up on ESPN. Miracle Win.

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Speaker 1: Dan Graziano from ESPN says, AMC isn't that great? Patriots

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Speaker 1: and Steelers that look wobbly. Chiefs can't keep up what

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Speaker 1: they're doing. The Jaguars can't beat the Titans, why not

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. Titans are going to the super Bowl? True? False,

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Speaker 1: This is demonstrably false. What do you see him here

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Speaker 1: the Sunday They're pretty good, They're not that good. They

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Speaker 1: might beat the Bills, They're not going to the super

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Speaker 1: Bowl false, false and false. Yeah, that's an easy because listen,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't pick anybody to go to the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, somebody's gonna go. Yeah, somebody's

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Speaker 1: gonna go. But it's yeah, I'm gonna say false two.

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Speaker 1: I got a one in sixteen chances, got a sixteen

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Speaker 1: to one chance of being right. Yeah, you're right, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's hard, it's hard. They're playing well,

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Speaker 1: but it's like I said, last three three point wins,

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Speaker 1: if you got any of these teams that are undefeated,

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Speaker 1: they are not going to be able to keep it

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Speaker 1: up for the whole season. I mean, we saw even

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Speaker 1: the Patriots when they were sixteen to oz took a loss.

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Speaker 1: But I and last year when the Chiefs went six

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Speaker 1: and oh, they almost followed up by going on and

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Speaker 1: six in the next six games, not quite but almost.

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Speaker 1: NFL True and False brought to you about Yancey's Fancy

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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Famer talked about Josh Allen and how

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Speaker 1: he handled some of the blitzes he saw from Green

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Speaker 1: Bay last Sunday. The Packers did a great job of

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Speaker 1: showing blitz to the right and then bringing an unorthodox,

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Speaker 1: unconventional blitz to the left with a guy off the

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Speaker 1: slot who ended up getting to Josh and I just

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Speaker 1: you know, I just thought it was one of those

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Speaker 1: situations where Josh did what he was supposed to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if he could have seen both sides and got back

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Speaker 1: to the other side. We'd be sitting here going wow,

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Speaker 1: you know that that's pretty impressive for a rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: or any quarterback. But the debate was simply just that

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Speaker 1: I thought Josh did. But more important I Josh did

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Speaker 1: exactly what I would have done in that situation. And

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Speaker 1: I always prided myself on seeing an understanding protections and

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Speaker 1: where to go and how to attack him. But he

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Speaker 1: did exactly what I would have done in that situation.

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Speaker 1: Interesting from Kurt Warner. Hey, Steve, we're out of time here,

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Speaker 1: but have fun of the hockey game tonight. Man. I've

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