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Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is the moment you've all been waiting for.

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Speaker 2: I've been waiting for. This is Misspelling and your host

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Speaker 2: Misspelling is finally back. I'm back, joined by Amy and

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Speaker 2: Ruth and today.

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Speaker 1: Hi, it's been eight weeks, Tory weeks, so I think that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. Ruthann's right, But first of all, what happened? Where? Like,

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Speaker 1: what happened to you? Where have you been? People know

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Speaker 1: you were sick, but what happened exactly?

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Speaker 2: And thank you for everyone who has reached out and

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Speaker 2: has just wished me the best and get well. It

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Speaker 2: has been hell, and Hell's individual to all of us,

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Speaker 2: but this has been hell. I know I have had

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Speaker 2: a past of getting sick a lot and frequently, but

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Speaker 2: this one took me down eight weeks. I couldn't work.

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Speaker 2: And it all started with my sinuses. I mean it

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Speaker 2: started with the five Petrie dishes that live in my house.

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Speaker 2: But they bring things home. Look, that's normal, and you know,

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Speaker 2: you work through it, you get sick, you pick up

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Speaker 2: stuff from them. I now know the name of every

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Speaker 2: you know, virus and bacterial thing out there.

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Speaker 3: There's entrovirus there is eno.

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Speaker 2: Rhytovirus, there was COVID, there was everything RSV and.

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Speaker 1: Did you have it all at the same time.

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Speaker 3: No, not at the same time.

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Speaker 2: So like I wouldn't know I had it till one

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Speaker 2: kid was sick again, take them in, they get tested,

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Speaker 2: and then I would get tested and have it. So

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Speaker 2: it was like one week I had RSVP, RCP irish.

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Speaker 3: Something I did not want to ars. You doesn't get

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Speaker 3: to do get a one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was And they always say, I mean

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Speaker 2: after everything started with COVID in twenty nineteen, you know,

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Speaker 2: people started saying it kind of all these viruses attack

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Speaker 2: I always had ear infections growing up or bronchid is

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Speaker 2: growing up, but that was your go to health failure.

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Speaker 2: Mine are always my sinuses. And I know I've talked

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Speaker 2: been my damn sinuses.

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Speaker 1: I have a rude question. Yeah, I'm just gonna rip

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Speaker 1: it off and ask it. Did you have sinus issues

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Speaker 1: before you got your nose done or do you did?

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I did you know?

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Speaker 2: I always and I talked freely about my rhinoplasty, but it,

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Speaker 2: you know, it definitely is something I'm not happy with,

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Speaker 2: something I'm fearful to get redone again because it's in

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Speaker 2: the middle of my cape.

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Speaker 1: Have you done it once? Only?

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Speaker 2: So I did one full one and then I yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: So I'm in the pilot episode, the first episode. Then

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Speaker 2: I'm not the only out of ten seasons, there's only

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Speaker 2: one episode I was not in, and that's the second

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Speaker 2: episode that aired, and I was having my nose done.

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Speaker 2: So it's so uh nine two one zero and Beverly

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Speaker 2: Hills of it all. But yeah, I came back third episode.

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Speaker 2: It's my new nose, not vastly different, but I definitely

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Speaker 2: Since then, the left side it's very impacted, not only

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Speaker 2: you know, and people always say, why do you always

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Speaker 2: insist on doing a post photo with your face like

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Speaker 1: Right side of air so you actually feel like you

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Speaker 1: have a better side because of this, The symmetry is off,

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Speaker 2: But it's not just physically off, it's internally off. I like,

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Speaker 2: if I plug my nose, I can breathe freely up

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Speaker 2: my right nostril. This left one I can barely get

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had a doctor like look at this?

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Speaker 3: Definitely?

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Speaker 2: And in twenty twenty one I had sinus surgery, not

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Speaker 1: Go into season one till twenty twenty one nothing.

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Speaker 3: I had two revisions to try, okay.

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Speaker 2: To fix that, and it didn't. It didn't land and

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Speaker 2: still now no, all these years I've been dealing with it,

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Speaker 1: But I have so many questions. Sorry to interrupt, But

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Speaker 1: it was season one?

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Speaker 1: Were you bummed or did you like it? At first?

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Speaker 3: Good question? I don't think. I was so young. And

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Speaker 2: But I definitely That's when I already had problems with

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Speaker 3: I didn't like it. I thought it was too big.

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Speaker 3: I had anxiety about it, But after that I was

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Speaker 2: I would have taken a little bit bigger than like

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Speaker 2: it's totally crooked.

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Speaker 4: Now, yes, right, I have a question. Did you have

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Speaker 4: the nose job before or after? The parrot bit your

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Speaker 1: Oh so then the parrot damaged it further.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe this is a past life thing, like there's

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Speaker 1: Well, this is okay, so interesting, right, why my nose?

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Speaker 1: I asked that because you do get sick a lot, right,

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Speaker 1: which we'll talk about. But this really took you out

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Speaker 1: and it was the worst in many years, and so

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Speaker 1: what did the what were the symptoms, what was happening

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Speaker 1: to you that was really debilitating? And then what did

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Speaker 2: Of course it was the worst flu like symptoms you

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Speaker 2: covid first hit us all and we're like, whoa. I

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Speaker 3: I'm back in a few days. It was.

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Speaker 2: It took me out. I was flat on my back

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Speaker 2: like Mike, and then it got so ingrained in there

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Speaker 2: it went into my U station tube. I sound really

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Speaker 2: smart saying that but that's your inner ear. So it

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Speaker 2: was both sinuses. It was an inner ear infection. You

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Speaker 3: So then the vertigo kicked it, which I'm still having vertigo.

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Speaker 1: Still now, eight weeks later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I I don't want to do it. If

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Speaker 2: I turn it to the side, to my yep, yep,

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Speaker 1: WHOA, Yeah, I get some of that's menopause. I get

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Speaker 3: All combined and.

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Speaker 2: Do more because that a chiropractic adjustment can help. But

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Speaker 2: you know what, everyone and their mother. Why is it

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Speaker 2: I was on so many rounds of antibiotics that it

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Speaker 2: like an anny pod and there's other versions with they

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Speaker 1: So you're like rinsing with antibiotics.

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Speaker 2: And I'm talking about like I would go to the doctor,

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Speaker 3: You know, I told you this, it's ten percent. I'm like, guys,

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Speaker 2: That you know, that's something we think comes later in life,

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Speaker 2: Stella is driving now, so she was, you know, when

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Speaker 2: She's had to, you know, change her schedule to go

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Speaker 3: Like it's it's been a shift, but.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, So during those two months, like who was

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, so there's all that, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't cook, so we had to go back

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Speaker 1: These questions because there's like a sort of a bigger

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Speaker 2: It was so bad that the kids couldn't like I

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Speaker 1: Feel like exertionally, emotionally, how are you feeling during all this?

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Speaker 2: Oh, emotionally And you know, and everyone out there knows,

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Speaker 2: I'm a really positive person, Like you know, I've been

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Speaker 2: I keep going, keep on trucking.

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Speaker 3: I got real to a point where I felt really hopeless,

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Speaker 3: and I never lost hope.

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Speaker 3: Relax before you got before I got sick. And now

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Speaker 5: Sort of talk about this. Yeah, you get sick a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know, these terms come in, I can fight them off. Like,

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Speaker 2: Two months later, so immunologists, I went, did a slew

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Speaker 2: Right, And that's going to be a huge component because realistically,

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Speaker 1: You need to change the way you live, Like was

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Speaker 2: Well, I definitely, I mean, ruth Anne knows this. I

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Speaker 1: The last two months that you got sick of this before.

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Speaker 2: So I wasn't. But ruth Anne has really been on

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Speaker 2: like hey, you don't have your health, you don't have

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Speaker 3: You're right, you're right. So I would say like five

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Speaker 2: She was taking me, you know, I got Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Why do you think you put all that stuff off

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Speaker 2: I can tell you honestly and not that it's right.

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Speaker 2: But there's no right or wrong that I was just like,

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Speaker 3: Go back to me. But they always say put the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, taking care.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I do preach, what do you say your health.

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Speaker 4: Your health is everything and if you're not healthy, there's

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Speaker 2: So that and I didn't forget about myself. I always

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Speaker 1: Would you say your life is messy chaotic?

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Speaker 3: It's definitely chaotic, messy. I mean we all know that.

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Speaker 2: I always say that I have like tons of shit

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Speaker 2: know if you really dig into it, if it's messy.

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Speaker 1: And this is where we disagree.

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Speaker 3: But you don't know what my kids go through and

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Speaker 1: Like fundamentally disagree because I love.

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Speaker 2: You so hard on myself and I will repeat to everyone,

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Speaker 1: But it is messy. Tory like that's the thing that

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Speaker 3: And it's not because it's me. They're like, do you

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Speaker 2: Of how well this child is doing and they are thriving,

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Speaker 2: and that's because of you. You run this show like internally,

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Speaker 2: like stop beating yourself. Everyone knows I'm a mess.

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Speaker 1: You're not a mess, but your life is chaos. Like

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Speaker 1: The kids can be thriving in school, even at home,

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Speaker 1: But I think if you don't see it being chaos,

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Speaker 1: Well, it's the hardest part right now. Is it like

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Speaker 2: Right And I think I my instinct is to like

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Speaker 3: Of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I grew up believing I tried to

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Speaker 2: you're right, I'll take a deep breath.

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00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 3: And he's like, how can I help? And it's just

440
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 3: it's just I feel weird. I did it first, it

441
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 3: did I don't.

442
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like.

443
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: And now I'm like, I'm grateful. I'm like, yeah, I

444
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: can't do this alone. And that was a hard thing

445
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 2: to face. Like I spent years being like I can

446
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 2: do it all, and I can't.

447
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 3: No one can do it all.

448
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: Like how much is Dean help? Fifty percent or no way,

449
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: not fifty percent?

450
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean he works, so he works full time

451
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: and his is more of a nine to five job.

452
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so he just drop offs in the morning,

453
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: which help.

454
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.

455
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: When that changed, that was like a game changer for me.

456
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: When he took that drop offs anti gaps I get

457
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 2: so I still have to do pickups and Stella driving

458
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: was a game changer for me because we have a.

459
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: Car, two cars and has car schools before that does

460
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 3: still have a car, still has a car, okay, because.

461
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: It's look from the outside, people are like Tori Spelling,

462
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Spelling's daughter, you know, like she's got it all.

463
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: It's Gucci and you know Dior, But like.

464
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 3: It is that right, and it's interesting.

465
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: I feel like my name is very polarizing in a

466
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 2: way because there's half the people still think that and

467
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: then half for like I thought, she's broke right right right?

468
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: You know, situation, What is the real situation and what

469
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: do you need the most? What would actually help you

470
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: make the chaos not so so high.

471
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 3: So my brain is more creative.

472
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: My brain is go, go, go, go go, Like if

473
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: you have if someone has to think and plan out,

474
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm like I already already handled it.

475
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 3: So just having honestly another set of hands. Yeah, at the.

476
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: House or driving too like both.

477
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 4: I think I mean somebody who can pick up the

478
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 4: kid and go to the grocery store and help you

479
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 4: go through the boxes and sort of a somebody who

480
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 4: can do it all in that moment.

481
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: We talked about this the other day, like how and

482
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: I don't think the house is dirty. I don't think that.

483
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: But I think the house is messy. I think because

484
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 1: you have a real, real problem, and like everybody that

485
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: he does, but I think yours is extreme on getting

486
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: rid of stuff, letting stuff go. Is that a fair assessment?

487
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: Partially? So the letting go used to be the entire problem. Yeah,

488
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 2: and that's when I did have the help, So I

489
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: wish I had let it go. Then now I want

490
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: it all gone, Like I just physically don't have the time.

491
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: I will come in and be like okay, and when

492
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: I do, I'll have one hour and I will do

493
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: step it and my kids are like, oh my.

494
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: God, that looks great, and I'm like, oh thank you.

495
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: I'm like okay, this weekend and then all of a sudden,

496
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 2: there's play dates, there's you know, hangs, they got to

497
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 2: do this, they got to do that. I'm working on

498
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: stuff business wise because I'm not a nine to fiver

499
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: or so there is twenty four to seven business. When

500
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: it comes up, it comes up, and it just doesn't

501
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 2: get done. Like I'm not the type of stay at

502
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: home mom that it's.

503
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: Like, okay, I have while the kids are at school.

504
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: I have this chunk of time where I can just

505
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: sit down, clean my house and do laundry.

506
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 3: But like I'm doing this podcast, which.

507
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: I'm in the corner of my living room, formal living rooms,

508
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 2: i am no longer a believer in they're just a

509
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: collector of shit because literally it's like the kids don't

510
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: use them if there's not a TV, and formal living

511
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: rooms never have a TV allegedly, you know from the past,

512
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 2: Like it's beautiful furniture here, but no one uses it.

513
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: It is turned into I would say, my gifting suite.

514
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: So when I am looking at.

515
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: Death that comes in and it's just a bunch of

516
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: piles right, and I will be like, Okay, would you

517
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: take a picture of it or would you be embarrassed?

518
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: That's the question.

519
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: I can take a picture of it right now, text send.

520
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: Me a picture of it, and okay, And then there's

521
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: a difference between sending me the picture, and would you

522
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: post the picture? And I'm not saying you have to.

523
00:26:55,040 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, like because I think personally you did

524
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: get sick, you got really, really sick, and we're all

525
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: we're all supportive and here for you and wanted to help.

526
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: But no, I'm not looking at that. I appreciate that,

527
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: but at the same time, here comes the dagger. At

528
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: the same time, I think the lifestyle contributes to why

529
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 1: you get sick so much, meaning you're disorganized, not in

530
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: the sense like it's just disorganization is a better way

531
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: to say. You're not like specifically disorganized. There's just so

532
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: much chaos, like all the kids and it's almost like

533
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: they are going to have twenty curve balls a day

534
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: and then the whole day is like thrown off, right,

535
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: And most people have that, but they have like one

536
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: curveball because they have one or two kids. But you've

537
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: got like way more of that. When now I'm looking

538
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: at the pictures, we'll be the judge. We'll do this live, right, Tory.

539
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: This is not good.

540
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: No, I'm scared right now. I see fear in her eyes.

541
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: It's not good.

542
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 7: I've seen the files and I think my problem is

543
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 7: I have known you for so long that whereas other

544
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 7: people might walk in and be like, wow, that's a lot,

545
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 7: I can tell when you've actually made some progress.

546
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, this doesn't look so bad.

547
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: Oh it's not good, and I don't want to be mean.

548
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: But the Christmas tree is up, the Christmas and you can.

549
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: See you thought I cut that out.

550
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: You can see the bones in here, Like the shelves

551
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: could be really pretty, the living room could be really pretty.

552
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: You have beautiful things. You can't even sit in there. No,

553
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: Like it's borderline hoarder. I'm not gonna lie.

554
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all just sitting in here in piles.

555
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: So would this be the first thing? Okay? Like, because

556
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: kind of what we want to do with the show

557
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: is because basically your life is chaos. Do we not

558
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: want to try to address this because other people listening, Look,

559
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: I think I have two stacks of shit at my

560
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: house right Sorry for saying shit, two stacks and they

561
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: and they do bog me down. I'm like, I have

562
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: to get to this. Maybe when I'm watching the football game,

563
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: I'll get to this. You have four hundred stacks of

564
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: shit in the house right now? Yeah, So is that

565
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: the first thing we have to fix.

566
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: I believe.

567
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: So this seems to be like really a problem.

568
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: Yes, as I believe, Like you walk into your home

569
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: that should be your like safe space and like peaceful.

570
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: As soon as I walk into the foyer, I see this.

571
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: The whole house look like this and the weight No,

572
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: it doesn't look this is the worst.

573
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 3: It's like we have.

574
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: A den which is connected to the kitchen, and it's

575
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: where you know, everyone hangs and sits and eats. That's clean,

576
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: but that's the one place we keep and everything just

577
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: goes in here.

578
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: Say, like the president of iHeart was like, we love

579
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: Tory Spelling. I need to have a meeting with her

580
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: to talk about her future. Tell her I'm gonna stop

581
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: by her house, no tomorrow night. What would you do?

582
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: I would have to pass and here's I would be like,

583
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: you have to meet him.

584
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: You'd absolutely say no.

585
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 3: Like am I getting fired? If I don't know?

586
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: Pretend fine, pretend I have to talk somewhere.

587
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be like where I'll come to you wherever

588
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 3: you are. I would change everything.

589
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: Just and you never like what if someone knocked on

590
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: the door, Like what if I was just like I'm

591
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: in town Tory knock, knock, knock, Like, are you gonna

592
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: just not let me in?

593
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 7: No?

594
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: Of course I would.

595
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: Okay, pretend it's not me, Pretend it's somebody, like do

596
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: you not have people over?

597
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 6: Like?

598
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: How do you like?

599
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 6: No?

600
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: I stopped having What if your brother wants to come over?

601
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 1: Does he come into this?

602
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 3: He's been here?

603
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 6: He go?

604
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: Because I picture his house is not is very buttoned up.

605
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: I think one toy comes out at his house and

606
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: one toy goes back.

607
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: Definitely, I would say Dean is neat and tidy and

608
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: really good at organizing.

609
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: His brain works that way. So oh sorry, hold on,

610
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: I don't know.

611
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: I thought dad was picking up bo No, I don't either.

612
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: Can you just sext him? I'm so sorry, Thank you stuff.

613
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm very happy that happened, because that's what I'm talking about.

614
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: That's tough stuff. Like you're trying to do a podcast.

615
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: We have thousands and thousands and like literally we have

616
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand people probably listening right now, and you

617
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: have to stop what you're doing.

618
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 6: Yea.

619
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: And again I'm not trying to be tough on you. No,

620
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: you're just like swirlly for me.

621
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: And if you saw the text chains with me and

622
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: my kids, Me and my axe, me and each kid individually,

623
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: like I'm at actually doing great with organization, like making

624
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: sure that everything is planned out because otherwise. So what

625
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: I was going to say is when Dean and I

626
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: were together and live together, I was able. I was

627
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: able to have a house that was presentable because he

628
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: wouldn't live like that.

629
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: You know.

630
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 2: And we were working at different times, so I had

631
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: downtime when he'd work he had to do help them too.

632
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, did you have help then?

633
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, look, I'm not young. Here's what I'm

634
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: going to say. I'm I'm one person, right, I'm one person,

635
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: and I'm just going to be vulnerable and tell you

636
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: the truth. I have no kids, and I have five

637
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: nieces and I do a lot of like stuff with them.

638
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: I have a housekeeper, someone cooks for me. I have

639
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 1: a full time assistant, I have a handy man, I

640
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: have someone that does my whole yard, and I still

641
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: have two piles of shit. Like, I do think you

642
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: need help, right? I just do. I think this is

643
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: like chaos, and I think, and again, I'm not a doctor,

644
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: I just play one on a podcast. I think it

645
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: all contributes to why you could not work for two months.

646
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: It definitely impacts your nervous system, impacts everything, of course.

647
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: And we're all in San Francisco right now, and you

648
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: are supposed to be here and you're not here because

649
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: two reasons. One is you couldn't be here, but you've

650
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: got all this swirl, so we can't have you here.

651
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: And I don't want a book a flight and I

652
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: don't want to buy you a ticket because I don't

653
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: think you'll make it. And that's just me being vulnerable

654
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: right to say. I want you to be at all

655
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: these things. I want you to have a thousand more opportunities.

656
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: But because of the swirl, I'm always like, oh ooh,

657
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: is she gonna make it? And so I guess my

658
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: question for you is like, how do we start to

659
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Speaker 1: kind of help you change the direction if you want to.

660
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to make you do something you don't

661
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: want to do.

662
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: I definitely want to, yeah, because I I mean, I

663
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 2: love all my work with iHeart, but I have a

664
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: ton of other business things that I do, and it's.

665
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: Me and Ruth.

666
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: Anne's the two of us, you know, and she doesn't

667
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 2: even live that at local, you know, she's an hour away,

668
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 2: So it feels.

669
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: Like an excuse to me. That feels like I just

670
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: said something and then you're just pivoting it to like, oh,

671
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: but I have all these other work things I have

672
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: to do and I have to balance it all. When

673
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think it's because.

674
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 3: You've got it. I want to say, yes, I need someone,

675
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: send help.

676
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: But also, do you see what I'm saying, ruth Anne,

677
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: am I wrong? Like where they're sort of like it's

678
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: just sort of I want it.

679
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: I want help.

680
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 6: I think recognize in all honesty.

681
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 3: I can't do this alone. I need help literally, Like.

682
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 6: I think, can't you find me somebody forever?

683
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 4: Like it's you need people part time assistant to you know.

684
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: A mother's helper. I someone I say all the time,

685
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: do you know someone? I asked moms at school, like

686
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: and it's it's outstanding that I'm like, really, nobody has

687
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: one person they con a few hours a week.

688
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: Right, But I feel like that's not going to be

689
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: hard to find someone else.

690
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 6: Be surprised, you'd be surprised they are.

691
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: Not asking the right people.

692
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, Ruthan and I have been

693
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: asking people for this before I got sick.

694
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 6: Kids I don't have like you. I do not have kids.

695
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 6: I'm not in those circles.

696
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: I need a mother's helper, I need an assistant, I

697
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 2: need a handyman.

698
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: We'll always want to see me. Let me know. One's local.

699
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 6: Course.

700
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: Also like okay, So I think the question is if

701
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: you start to get those things, do you think that

702
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: you can really stick with some of these things? For example,

703
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: we bring someone in, let's say on the podcast where

704
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: like we got to help just saying like you keep

705
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: all this. I get it. It's hard to like give

706
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: away the stuff because that could be a gift or

707
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: what I take it. But do you think you could

708
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: keep it up? That's the thing. It's not just about

709
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: the clean time of yeah, because then when it comes

710
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: in it's like it's like I'm saying about Randy. I

711
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: could see Randy's kids playing their games and then they

712
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: put it away before they move on to the next thing.

713
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: Do you think that you would be able to like

714
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: learn some of these things that can help you get

715
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: more orderly.

716
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: Well here's yes. But here I'm not defending myself.

717
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm being factual and realistic, so we can work this

718
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: out together. Totally, totally my life's my my busy, chaotic

719
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: work and children. Lifestyle is not going to change. In fact,

720
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 2: in the next year, there's going to make things coming up.

721
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 3: It's going to be escalated. So I need to be

722
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: in my a game.

723
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: And once someone comes in and does all this, yes,

724
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 2: I can maintain it if I have someone.

725
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 3: Here helping me.

726
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

727
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: Again, if someone comes in and we go through the

728
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: house and we donation, this is giveaway, this is an

729
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: organize it.

730
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: I'm still going to be moving, moving, moving, and not

731
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 3: have time. If more brocks has come in, it just

732
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 3: could put over here.

733
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: But if we have an area and there's a place

734
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: for everything and someone is actually helped, and I know

735
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: because I've had this in the past and my life

736
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: has not been like.

737
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: This, right, so I have no question. We're taping this

738
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: at two o'clock. So we're taping this at two o'clock today.

739
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: What was the day like before we started whatever? Half hour?

740
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm having a massive hawk wash.

741
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: But anyway, know is there air blow down your shirt?

742
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: So what was the day like leading up to one

743
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: point when we started this?

744
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: Let me put up thank you Easton got.

745
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: A fan going.

746
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: It's grateful at least I'm on a calendar now. I

747
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: used to have it all in my head, which was impossible, impossible,

748
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: and it was like this weird thing. It was like

749
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: my dad used this archaic but wonderful because I have

750
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: it typewriter and they would show him like.

751
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: Here's a here's a computer. We could do it. And

752
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 3: he was like his brain, like.

753
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: Where's that typewriter. That typewriter should be like displayed beautifully

754
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: on a beautiful I know it was at desk in

755
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: your home office. I don't know. I don't know what

756
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: the situation is, but like you don't want to shove

757
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: it a corner corner.

758
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: I realized this, and uh wait, where was I going

759
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: with this? Oh?

760
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: What was your day? Like day up to now? And

761
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: I was like, let people be se I get it.

762
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: We'll take at seven am, get bow up, bo got ready,

763
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: got bow ready. Dean then came and picked him up

764
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: and took him, and then Finn and Hattie went to school,

765
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 2: and who took them? Dean came back and took them.

766
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. Okay, so that's nice.

767
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: And then I had a call from ten to eleven,

768
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: I had a call from twelve to one, and then

769
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: I'm here with you call too, So what.

770
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: Did you do all morning till ten breakfast? I don't know.

771
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm just asking.

772
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: Oh, I fought with Mona, my chat GPT.

773
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: Ruthan knows this. Do you know Canva the app canvas?

774
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: I know Canva?

775
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Mona, my g chat GPT has been trying

776
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: to teach me how.

777
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: To learn it because for all the things I'm doing

778
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: and designing, I need to do brand decks. But I

779
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 2: don't have an assistant to help me make a brand deck.

780
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: So I can come up with all these ideas, Mona

781
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 2: can structure it for me. And then she's like, okay,

782
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: I can't go any further to put this into a

783
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 2: PDF or print it out for you.

784
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: So you have to go into Canva.

785
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: She's given me step by step how to use Canva,

786
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, three hours.

787
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: Feels like a giant waste of time to me, like

788
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: you could literally pay someone fifty dollars to do what

789
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: she's doing now.

790
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 6: What she is doing now.

791
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: So I finally said to ruth answering, this deck is

792
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: ready to go. I need it to put it in

793
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 2: Canva and have it look the right way, right font spacing,

794
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: it's ready to go and I don't know how to

795
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: do that, and she was like, Okay, we just need

796
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: someone to do it, and we reached this.

797
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: I don't know what's doing it.

798
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: I hope people listening like chime in because I get

799
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: irritated by all this, So you guys, like, I don't know,

800
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: like it just all irritates me. It's like Tory like

801
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: where I don't know if I'm just grouchy no, or

802
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: if I'm if other people listening will agree, Like I

803
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: feel like there's all this swirl again when it's like, dude, nobody,

804
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: I don't know how to use canva. Somebody can just

805
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: help you with that?

806
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 3: Or is this somebody?

807
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: You have fifty million people that work at iHeart it's

808
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: easy Like for me, I'm like, and trust me, I've

809
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: been tempted.

810
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to bother anyone there, but.

811
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: All the millions of people that work there that are

812
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 2: all so efficient and great.

813
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 3: I want to be like, do you have a friend

814
00:40:58,920 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: or a cousin that just.

815
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: That they're doing that's the whole thing they do. But

816
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: it's okay, So we're gonna have to take a break

817
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: because I'm exhausted, and this is before we go. Are

818
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: you doing therapy?

819
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: I'm starting back with therapy.

820
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: Again. This feels it just feels.

821
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: You want me to be honest.

822
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: I could lie, yes, So what happened to the therapy?

823
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: So I didn't do therapy for the two months I

824
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: was sick, But I'm also previous to that had canceled

825
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 2: my therapy. I want to say, for about a month

826
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: before that. And why because as usual, things would come

827
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: up and I'd be like, I'm sorry, I can't do

828
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: it today.

829
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: This came up, all right, But it's like it's hard

830
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: because I feel like a lot of people have an

831
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 3: inner circle that are in close proximity, like you know,

832
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: they can call their mom or they call their sister,

833
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: call you know, their best friend that lives two minutes away,

834
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: and be like, I hear my other friends, Like my

835
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: friend Kim that does my hair. She's a single mom working.

836
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: She has to constantly be like, I can't pick up

837
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: my kid and call her friend that lives down the

838
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: street to go pick them up.

839
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: I don't have that. My brother lives important.

840
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it, all right, excuse me

841
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: A lot to take in, Okay, people listening. I'm really

842
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: curious how they feel, because they're either going to be like, Amy,

843
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: you are a bitch and you need to be nicer,

844
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: or they're going to be like, we get it, Tory's

845
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: got a lot of chaos. Let's they get it. Or

846
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: they also could relate. They might be like, I too

847
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: have these same issues.

848
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 6: I think there's going to be a chunk of people

849
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 6: who relate. I think it's a little bit of all

850
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 6: what you just said.

851
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 4: And I'm not just saying that, you know, because I'm

852
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 4: close to Tori. I mean I see it up close,

853
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 4: and look, toy knows a lot of it drives me crazy,

854
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 4: but it's from a place because I can, and I

855
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 4: think it's the same with you. I mean, like we cave,

856
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 4: of course, and so it's frustrating.

857
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 3: We are to succeed.

858
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want you to succeed, want life to be easier.

859
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 6: I want to come in and fix it.

860
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: Right.

861
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: It's tough because my friend who's also I'm in business with,

862
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: hasn't worked in two months. So we have to call

863
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: our other friend, Brian, make Brian cover, which look, I

864
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: love Brian and I'm so grateful to him, and he

865
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: always is such a good friend to you because he's

866
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: always going to save the day. But it's like it's

867
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: a lot of work because I have to get Brian

868
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: or someone else to fill in. And like Denise Richards

869
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: was amazing, and we were so lucky that people were

870
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: able to jump in.

871
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: Cheryl Burke did it. We had a bunch of people

872
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 3: super great.

873
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: But it's like not only that that the team has

874
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: to then find that person and then someone for them

875
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: to talk to. And I'm not mad at you for

876
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: being sick. Obviously that would be like insane, I'd be bonkers,

877
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: but it's still tiring, and we want you to get

878
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: better and then we want you to like come back

879
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: a game. So we're sort of just all like, okay,

880
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: we're do we go from here? So that's why we

881
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: wanted to have this conversation on the air, Like I

882
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: get it, we should have this conversation off the air,

883
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: but Toys very willing to like, let's just put it

884
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: on the air. So here we are. So now we're

885
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: going to take a break. I'm going to like ingest

886
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: all this in.

887
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 3: And you're Brian Green, who.

888
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: Was a super best friend and my hobby on camera

889
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: off camera has been such a best friend and family

890
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: to me through this entire process. He checks in every day.

891
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 3: He just checked it. He Brian I started this podcast,

892
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: I would feel so guilty, like, oh my gosh, you're

893
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 3: stepping in for me again. He's like, I've got your back.

894
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: Oh he'll be fun. Look you don't have to feel

895
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: guilty about it. But gratitude is different than feeling guilty.

896
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: And like Brian is the greatest. We're so lucky to

897
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: like both of us have Brian in our lives.

898
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: Like he's sure, yeah, just now, he's like, how's the vertigo.

899
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm still having it. He just sent me.

900
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: Because he he's out the fertigo for for a long time,

901
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: really bad.

902
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: And he just makes me his vertigo doctor who I'm

903
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: going to make an appointment with.

904
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: So well, I'm tired, but.

905
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: We'll get it.

906
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: We'll get it. We're gonna come back at this again.

907
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: So all right, step one.

908
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: And we think, let your help everyone out there, Like

909
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: I'm really willing to go through this with you because

910
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: you know, keeping a facade and like telling my funny

911
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: stories which happened, like oh my god, this happened daily,

912
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: Like this this stuff does happen and having great celebrity

913
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: guests like you were saying, Amy, it's great.

914
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: I mean it still does not deliberate.

915
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think we need to like try

916
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: to see if we can sort of figure this out

917
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: because and and look, I think you think your swirl

918
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: is like a four out of ten, and I think

919
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: your swirl is an eight out of ten. I think

920
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: it's so even if we meet in the middle, it's

921
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: like a six, five, Like it's so much swirl.

922
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: It it's definitely more than a four like we had

923
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: swirl during the podcast.

924
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: Like during the podcast, there was an example all right,

925
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: well this isn't negative, it's positive, but it's just like.

926
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 3: This is a count of ability and this is going

927
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: to help with follow through anyway.

928
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,479
Speaker 1: We'll see where it all goes.

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Speaker 3: Stay tuned.