1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: We are on every day from one until four. And 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: then if suddenly four o'clock hits and you were busy 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 2: working or some sorry excuse like that, you go to 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app John Cobelt Show on demand. That's the 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: podcast version same as the radio show, and you can 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: hear whatever you missed, So there's no excuse anymore. To 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: keep up on everything we do now. I thought it 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: was going to be a more exciting day than it 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: turned out to be because the turn of the radio. Actually, 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: I hear you, Garyan Shannon, there's a tsunami coming. I 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: thought warning an earthquake, yeah, tsunami warming. Usually when they 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: say warning, it means they see it and they know 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: what direction it's going in. 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: Well, doctor Lucy Jones says that you have to give 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: a warning just in case in these situations, so you 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: want to, you know, kind of cover yourself. 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: I know, but there was it was kind of a letdown. 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it combined the two biggest fears you have, 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: earthquakes and tsunamis, and we were just talking about it 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: at the pastathon two days ago. 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I think about earthquakes all the time, 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: and here we had a seven point Oh. That's a 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: huge one in northern California, off the coast. So we 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: haven't heard of any injuries or damage or anything like that, 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 3: but a seven point oh, just imagine if it happened 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: smack in the middle of LA. 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I worry about. Yeah, that's bigger than 30 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: the Northwidge. Craig was, yes, the North Ridge quick. 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: All right, the tsunami. 32 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: It's gonna hit northern California. It's slightly populated out there. 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: This might be this might be fun to watch, you know, 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: to turn on the TV. And so I'm driving in. 35 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: I was listening to Fox and they went to a 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: reporter who was monitoring all the screens in northern California 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: and he goes, I don't really see anything. 38 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking. 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: He was looking up in Eureka and there were maybe 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: ten minutes away from arrival, and he goes, it doesn't 41 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: seem to be much going on. I thought, this is 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: gonna be a dout, isn't it? Sure enough? Like ten 43 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: to fifteen minutes it was going to hit. It was 44 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: gonna hit San Francisco I think at noon and Marine 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 2: County at twelve ten. Yeah, yeah, so noon comes nothing, 46 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: twelve to nothing. Total dut. 47 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: I'm very happy that nothing happened. 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't going to make it to Burbank, I know. 49 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: But I don't want other people affected by a tsunami. 50 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 3: Oh you get scarred by the one. How many years 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: ago in Thailand, Oh, we had friends that almost got 52 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: sucked into that. 53 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: Literally seriously, it was Christmas time and this family we knew. 54 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: They took their kids on an Asian vacation during Christmas 55 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: break and one of them was Thailand, and they were 56 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: going to go to that beach that morning, and that 57 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: the last minute changed their mind and went on some 58 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: other excursions. 59 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy how those things happened. Yeah, mean, it 60 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: just wasn't their time. 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 62 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: And actually a couple of years later they were on 63 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: I think like maybe a college recruiting trip. They ended 64 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: up at an airport in the Midwest, maybe Kansas City, 65 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: and tornadoes ripped through and like tore the tore the 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: roof off the airport lounge for the airport concourse and 67 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: they were like hiding in an alcove to keep themselves 68 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: from getting sucked away by the tornado. 69 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so I don't want to hear you making fun 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: of my travel night. 71 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: Well you're on the same list they are, because after 72 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: that happened traveling. Sorry, we're not going to ever be 73 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: traveling with you and you forget about it. 74 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: I mean your last traveling night at a war. 75 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: So well, no, it was Dubai. Actually that that epic 76 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: epic flooding. 77 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: All right, The last one was the epic flooding in Dubai. 78 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: The one before that was the war in Israel. 79 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: Yes, one week before I was supposed to go to 80 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: the day. 81 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: Cloud seating. What's the difference, Yeah, clouds. 82 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: Due, I denies that. 83 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people believe in that stuff. Yeah. 84 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: I think I told you when I was fleeing the 85 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: hurricane in Miami and I went into the hotel and 86 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: I told the guy, look, I'm fleeing from Sarasota and 87 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: I got to spend the night here and getting on 88 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: him playing because the hurricane, and he goes, you know, 89 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: I think it's cloud seating. This is the this is 90 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: the overnight clerk at the hotel. I think it's cloud seating. 91 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: You know what, you might be right, I don't know, 92 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: I believe anything. Now everything's so nuts. Oh, the pasta 93 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: thought we should we should give this is a big deal. 94 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: Play some trumpets or something because I know they announced 95 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: this several times earlier, but it is a big deal 96 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: and we have raised over a million dollars in cash. 97 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: Actually, more accurately, you all have donated more than a 98 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: million dollars. 99 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: And about forty tons of pasta and sauce eight pounds tech. 100 00:04:59,200 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: That's son. 101 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: Believe it well, we have the best listeners ever. 102 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is going to feed a lot 103 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: of children. His his charity, Bruno's charity, Katerina's Club, is 104 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: growing so much that when we first started doing this, 105 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: we would raise enough money and that's that's when we 106 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: would raise a lot less money. I mean, this has 107 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: really grown over the years. But it would cover his 108 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: costs for pasta and sauce for the for the entire year. 109 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: But now it's grown so much that even though the 110 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: amount of money that we raise has grown so much 111 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: and only covers six months. I mean, there's a there's 112 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: a lot of hunger out there. There's a lot of 113 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: kids who and most of this is an Orange county 114 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: and one hundred percent of donations. As you know, go 115 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: to Katerina's Club and as a six am this morning, 116 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: a million, two thousand and sixty nine dollars. Yeah, now 117 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: it's what seven hours later and seventy nine hundred and 118 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: fifty five pounds of food, so we're gonna hit eighty 119 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: thousand there. You can donate through Sunday. Through Sunday nights, 120 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 2: you go to Smart and Final stores in California, Nevada, 121 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: and Arizona. Donate eddy amount at checkout. You can go 122 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: to so Cal Wendy's locations donate five dollars or more, 123 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: get a coupon, book and online anytime. You don't have 124 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: to leave your home. KFIAM six forty dot com slash pastathon, 125 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: pull out your phone or do this right now KFIAM 126 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: six forty dot com slash pastathon because what we've done 127 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 2: is a million dollars and that gets him through June, 128 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: so you know, let's get him through July and August too. 129 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: And you know what Michelle Michelle said, she pretty much 130 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: runs the pastathon. She said that more than fifty thousand 131 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 3: dollars was raised for the auctions. 132 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: You know, like, oh yeah, co. 133 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: Hosting with you. I mean that's a lot of money. 134 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I have been six thousand dollars. Do 135 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 2: we know who it is who's co hosting? 136 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: It's a mission? 137 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: I got person. 138 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 3: I wonder if it's a girl a lady this time. 139 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't know we've ever I don't know. 140 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: Usually guys of the loud mouths or the aggressive loud 141 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: mouths you want to come in. Although the guy we 142 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: had last year was really nice, Jeff Briggs, he was 143 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: he's an attorney. In fact, he just emailed us the 144 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: other day. All right, So when we come back, we're 145 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: gonna get down to business here because I am fascinated. 146 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: I don't know why. 147 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: Certain certain stories fascinate me for show purposes, right, and 148 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: then there's stories that really I end up all day 149 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: for personal reasons. I don't know why. I just followed. 150 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: This one fascinates me. It was terrible thing for Brian Thompson, 151 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: the United Healthcare CEO. 152 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: But when he. 153 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: First the news came out that he got shot dad 154 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: right on the sidewalk next to the Hilton Hotel in 155 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: New York City, And I guess it's the thought I 156 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: always have because I just think this way I go. 157 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: I bet you there's some funny business going on in 158 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: his life. Something was going on. Well, there's all kinds 159 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: of possible motivations going on here. And they have much more, 160 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: much more detail about the assassin. Not the name of 161 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: the guy, but he was not real careful in covering 162 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: his trail or not leaving evidence behind. And it may 163 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: have something to do with a book an author wrote 164 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: back in twenty ten about how difficult it is to 165 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: get money out of insurance company. So we will tell 166 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: you about that book, and we'll tell you about all 167 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: the clues this guy left behind. 168 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: Excuse me? 169 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: Are you okay? 170 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: You know? I too fast? 171 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 3: I know, and then you sucked down the code I know, 172 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 3: and it's not good. 173 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 174 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: six forty. 175 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: So I just got a notification of who the contest 176 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: winner is to co host a show with me sometime 177 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: next year. Because this man bid six thousand dollars. The 178 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: money going to the pastathon obviously, and Bruno. His name 179 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: is Joshua Moody. It's another attorney. There'd be two attorneys 180 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: in a row. 181 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 3: Why do you attract attorneys. 182 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: Uh, well, these these guys like to argue. They want 183 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: to take me on. That's why attorneys have, well most 184 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: of them. Yeah, but Joshua Moody is the winner. So 185 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: we'll look forward to him coming on see what his 186 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: angle is going to be. Oh, by the way, one 187 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: more thing, not related to the news, but I was 188 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: driving in today and I got a phone call from 189 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: a strange number I didn't recognize, popped up on my 190 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: car screen and I answer it and he introduces himself 191 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: as you know, let's say, his name is Harold from 192 00:09:52,080 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: American Express, and I'm like American Express, like like curity, 193 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: And he says, is this John? And I said, well, 194 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: how do I know you're from American Express because normally 195 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: I get texts or emails when there's some kind of 196 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: fraud inquiry, inquirery inquiry, that's how you say that. And 197 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: he goes, well, he blew right past that, and he said, well, 198 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 2: can you give me the last four Well he goes, 199 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: what I can do is I can I can tell 200 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: you about recent purchases of yours? I said okay. He goes, 201 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: can I have the last four digits of your number? 202 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: I go, well, if you're calling me, you have my 203 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: last four digits already. I got nice, try, buddy, I 204 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: started yelling at him. 205 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: Did you hang up on it? 206 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: I hung up on good and he didn't call back. 207 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: And I looked at his number. 208 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 2: I still have it, and it was a seven five 209 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: to four area code, which is Fort Lauderdale. You know, 210 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: usually this is an eight hundred number that you get, 211 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: but a seven five to four number from some boiler 212 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: room operation Fort Lauderdale. And you know, it's very common 213 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: that you give out the last four digits of your number, 214 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: right and and so he kind of switched it. He 215 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: called me in one of the last four digits and 216 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 2: I caught him. The bastard. 217 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: You showed him. 218 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: Nothing gets by me. 219 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: Huh, Why did you answer the phone in the first 220 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 3: place if you didn't recognize the number. 221 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: I usually do on the way to work, because I 222 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: never know if it has something to do with with 223 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:26,479 Speaker 2: a guest. 224 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: Mine will pop up and it will say spam, So 225 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: then I know not well. 226 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: When you call me, I got a red flash warning. 227 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: All right, now onto this this United Healthcare CEO Brian 228 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: Thompson shot dead uh in front of the along the 229 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: side of the Hilton hotel in New York City, and 230 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: that that's a busy part of town. That is that 231 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: is where Rockefeller Center and the Christmas tree lighting is 232 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 2: just four blocks away, and they have a lot of 233 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: nice hotels there. And this guy who gunned down Thompson 234 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: left a message on the bullets. This is really out 235 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: of out of a movie. The three three of the bullets. 236 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 2: One of them was engraved with the word deny, one 237 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: of them with the word depose, and the third defend. 238 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 2: It was engraved on the live rounds and on the shellcasings. 239 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: Now denied, deposed, defend, very close to the title of 240 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: a book written by Jay Feineman some years ago, a 241 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: professor emeritus at Rutgers Law School who had written a 242 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: book called Delay, Deny, Defend subtitle why insurance companies don't 243 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 2: pay claims and what you can do about it. So 244 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: he turned delayed, deny and defend into denied, depose, and defend, 245 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: and he shot this insurance executs to death. 246 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: All right. 247 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: Tie that to the wife, Paul Atte Thompson back in Minnesota. 248 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 2: She was called and she said, yeah, he's been getting 249 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: some threats and said, which yesterday I thought was curious. Basically, 250 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: I don't know a lack of coverage and thought it 251 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: was tied to her husband's job. And I thought, well, 252 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: somebody had their claim denied and is now sending threats 253 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: to kill over the claim, which I thought was odd. 254 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: I didn't know for sure if that was plausible or not. 255 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: But if this guy is quoting the book, I mean, 256 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: he's really got to be pissed off. This guy had 257 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: won or or whoever hired him. 258 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: Have you seen have you seen his face? 259 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, they have security. 260 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's young. 261 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is young. 262 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: And you can see he's got a mask on in 263 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: some of the video photos, but in others he's smiling. 264 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: He's smiling. He has no masks, so you could see. 265 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 2: You could see him very clearly. I mean, there must 266 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: be hundreds of people who identified him by now. There 267 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: has to be. 268 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: And this can't be a professional killer because he was 269 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: not covering his tracks for you. 270 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: Now, now the wife is stranged from Thompson. 271 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: Okay, well then that makes even more sense because she 272 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: didn't seem that sad, right. 273 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: Right, She's thinking, oh he got shot to death. Oh 274 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: oh yes, that's terrible, how sad. I think that's what 275 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: struck me, it isn't They didn't say, like she burst 276 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: into tears. 277 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 278 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: I thought it was weird too, But now my. 279 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: Children are going to grow up without a father. 280 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: It's like, Oh, dad just got shot dead on the sidewalk, 281 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: What do you want for dinner. 282 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: Now? Also, he's got he did have. 283 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: Some issues because the company was getting investigated by the 284 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: Department of Justice over antitrust violations, and they had accused him, 285 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: I mean, not officially. They were investigating him and some 286 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: of his other executives for selling one hundred and seventeen 287 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: million dollars worth of stock. They suspected it was insider trading. 288 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: Thompson and these other executives were aware of news that 289 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: would cause the stock to go down, and so they 290 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: sold off a lot of stock. So when you hear 291 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: about this, or he's got some kind of estrangement with 292 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: the wife and she doesn't see him all that upset 293 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: that he's been shot, you got this Department of Justice investigation, 294 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: You've got the insider trading allegations here. There's probably other 295 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: things going on, and they hired a hit man, but 296 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: this guy wasn't the most professional, and I guess we 297 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: got to take a break we come back, I'll go 298 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: through the all, through the evidence that he left behind. 299 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: You know, the thing is, there's so much news coverage 300 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: now about what DNA can do, and there are so 301 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: many crime shows, right there's television crime shows and series. 302 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: There's all these podcasts on true crime. And I think 303 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: one of the things that's bolstered this entire genre is 304 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: how they can do this these forensic studies, often using DNA. 305 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: It's a whole kind of investigation that barely existed, you know, 306 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: thirty years ago. You remember there was a big ruckus 307 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: during the oj trial because they were trying to use DNA, 308 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: and I remember there was a famous quote by one 309 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: of the jurors saying, I don't know, I don't know 310 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: nothing about no DNA. I mean, people didn't believe in 311 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: it just thirty years ago. And now everyone's an expert 312 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: because everybody watches these shows or listens to these podcasts. 313 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: And I think that's part of the reason that this 314 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: has become such a popular story. They must be getting 315 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: a lot of hits because all the news sites, from 316 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: the New York Times to the New York Post, they're. 317 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: Pumping out dozens of articles on this shooting. 318 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: But well, I mean it just the way it happened. 319 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: The guy didn't even I mean again, I was telling 320 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: you this yesterday and off the air. You have the 321 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: Uber drivers right there right, their lights are on, you 322 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: had cars, you had people there. He just was acting 323 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 3: so nonchalant. He wasn't in a hurry. He wasn't hiding right, 324 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 3: so usually they hide underneath some things you can't see them. 325 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: And he just he and he kept going, he kept 326 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: shooting the guy. 327 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. 328 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: Must have got this guy off the internet. He didn't 329 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: get one of the mobsters, those hit men. 330 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: Nailly ven. 331 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: He's nuobie in it. 332 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah right, it must have been a rookie started up 333 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: his own business. All right, we'll do more about all 334 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: the evidence he left behind. 335 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 4: Next, you're listening to John Cobbel's on demand from KFI 336 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 4: Am six forty. 337 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four. Remember a 338 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: podcast after four o'clock. If you missed any part of 339 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: the show. John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app, 340 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: and you could follow us on social media John Cobelt Radio. 341 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: And there are plenty of clips from the apastathon, and 342 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: I urge you to watch the one where I'm getting 343 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: served the pork belly. Endeavor's surprised reaction to the pork 344 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: belly that that is my favorite one. 345 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: All right, oh, two o'clock, this will make you happy. 346 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: Two o'clock we are going to talk to the owner 347 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: and the attorney, the owner of Conan, the German shepherd 348 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: whose life has been spared by a judge. Conan is 349 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: owned by Nelson Grande, and Nelson and the attorney, Jill Ruther, 350 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: are going to be coming on. City of Burbank tried 351 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 2: to classify Conan as a dangerous animal and wanted him killed, 352 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: but Nelson went to court because what Nelson and his 353 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: partner claimed was a neighbor was very aggressive, abusive, verbally 354 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: abusive to the dog over a long period of time. 355 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: So the dog started associating this woman with unpleasant things, 356 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: and so one day he'd had enough and he took 357 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 2: a good chomp at her. And the City of Burbank 358 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 2: wanted him put down, and they went to court and 359 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: they won. So we're going to talk with Nelson Grande, 360 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: the co owner of Conan, and uh also the attorney. 361 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: It's good news. 362 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 3: It's a pit bull slash. Was it elaborate? German. 363 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, pit bull, Yeah, I remember they said it was first. 364 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: Now they're calling it a German shepherd. 365 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: Well, we'll find out. 366 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. 367 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. This dog was given a new lease 368 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: or should I say leash on life? 369 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: Oh, aren't we clever? 370 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: I know I've been dying to say that all day. 371 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: Why don't you save those for. 372 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: The newscast because it's cliche? 373 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: All right? 374 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: Back to the back to the case of the CEO 375 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: from United Healthcare, Brian Thompson, getting getting shot to death 376 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: in the streets of New York City among the Well, 377 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: here's what they've pieced together that after he did the shooting, 378 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: he ran into an alleyway, hopped on a knee bike, 379 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 2: and he rode that north along sixth a half, which 380 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: is also known as Avenue of the America's into Central Park. 381 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: And along the way. 382 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 2: I didn't know this, but if you walk around New 383 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: York City all day, you'll get photographed one hundred to 384 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: two hundred times. They have cameras on every block, public cameras, 385 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: private cameras. After nine to eleven some years later, they 386 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: just install these cameras everywhere, so you can't get away 387 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: with anything. 388 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 4: Anymore. 389 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 3: You got to make sure you're looking good at all times. 390 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: Then that's right. 391 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 2: So you never know when you're going to end up 392 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: on TV rights, Right, something happens in the neighborhood and 393 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: you know you're you're suddenly on television in the background. Uh, 394 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: he ran into an alleyway, Okay, I said that right, 395 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: hopped on an ebag. But here's the evidence he left behind. 396 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: He bought coffee, a water bottle, and two power bars 397 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: at a nearby Starbucks and tossed the bottle and the 398 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: coffee cup into the into a trash can. So the 399 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: cops dove into the trash can and pulled the garbage out, 400 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: and they're going to be able to get DNA from that. 401 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: They also and ah, you do this. 402 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: He dropped his phone in an alleyway near the Hilton, 403 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: and they have a search warrant already to go through 404 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: the contents of the phone. So that's that's that's a 405 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: stupid hitman. 406 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: You would think if he knew he dropped his phone, 407 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: that he would turn that e bike around and go 408 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 3: back and trace the steps and find that the phone. 409 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: You got to put your phone in your front pocket. 410 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you. 411 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: Don't These guys learn anything unless. 412 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 3: It was a burner phone that he didn't care about. 413 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: Don't they go to hitman school? 414 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: I guess apparently not. 415 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: Let me see here, all right, he used a silencer, Yeah, 416 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: he knew enough to do that. Yeah, and you usually 417 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: see that in the movies, but it does actually is 418 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 2: rarely used in real life murders. In fact, Mayor Eric Adams, 419 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,239 Speaker 2: I believe used to be a cop, said, in all 420 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 2: my years of law enforcement, I have never seen a 421 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: silencer before, although they had. The sales of skyrocketed from 422 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: five well five million are now registered in the US, 423 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: and thirteen years ago it was two hundred and eighty 424 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: five thousand. So I guess all these crime shows have 425 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: permeated the consciousness of would be hitman. Now he's carrying 426 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: an expensive backpack once sold by Peak Design, a company 427 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: that sells bags for up to three hundred and thirty dollars. 428 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: The chief of Detectives, Joseph Kenney, said the backpack was 429 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: distinctive and the founder of Peak Design actually is helping 430 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: the police department to identify it as specifically which product 431 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: that they put out. There's a ten thousand dollars reward 432 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: and they're looking in Thompson's background and social media for 433 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: clues as to who would want to kill him. He 434 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: had gotten several threats. Those are real. Now is the motivation? 435 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: Insurance denial rage at least a new term. A lot 436 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: of people get denied claims by all the big insurance 437 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: companies and they've had it and they're pissed off. United 438 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: Healthcare and all these companies don't have to release their 439 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: denial rate, so nobody really knows to the extent. 440 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: And whether they're valid or not. 441 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: People get denials and you know, it's nearly impossible to 442 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: challenge it. In fact, only one percent of denials are 443 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: even appealed. Like, if we get a denial for something 444 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: we submit, we don't even bother. My wife might call 445 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: and yell at a couple of clerks, but those customer 446 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: service reps and you know, they're they're sitting at home 447 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: and they're in their robes, in their robes, and you 448 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: could yell all they want. They don't care. They're doing 449 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: crossword puzzles while you're yelling. I don't know if you 450 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: ever heard this woman. Her name's Haylo Lorenz. She was 451 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 2: a Washington Post writer and she's ultra woke, and she 452 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 2: caused a lot of woke problems inside the Washington Post 453 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: newsroom at the height of all the woke insanity and 454 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: in newsrooms. And eventually they tossed her out because she's 455 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 2: just too much trouble. She was getting offended left and right. 456 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: She was writing about it, going on Twitter, you know, 457 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: she was. She was calling out various writers and editors 458 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: for all kinds of ridiculous offenses. She still has a 459 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: Twitter account. She went, well, actually she's she left Twitter. 460 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 2: You know, progressives have left Twitter and they've gone to 461 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 2: a new account called blue Sky. 462 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so many people have done that. I haven't yet. 463 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. 464 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: Well, if you know somebody who's put out an announcement 465 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: they went to blue Sky, you know exactly what their 466 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: politics is. They think Twitter has gotten two right wing 467 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 2: and so they want to be among the like minded. 468 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: I haven't even checked it out yet, is what I meant. 469 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: Taylor lorenz So went on Blue Sky and this is 470 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: what she wrote. And people wonder why we want these 471 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: executives dead? How about that? And I wondered yesterday if 472 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: this was really over a denial of coverage dispute, if 473 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: this was going to unleast unleast some other copycat crimes, 474 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: because there's just got to be thousands of people who 475 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: are stealing that they filed their healthcare claims. Our system, 476 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: by the way, is so busted. I mean, the whole 477 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: system is. It has to be bull dozed and you 478 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 2: have to start over again, and people are very frustrated 479 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: and angry, and insurance companies do deny a lot of 480 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 2: claims and never explain it and there's no practical way 481 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: to appeal. 482 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 3: It and win, and we're paying so much money in premiums. 483 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: God, the premiums go up instantly. Taylor Lorenz later shared 484 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: another use post which said, hypothetically, would it be considered 485 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: an actionable threat to start emailing other insurance CEOs as 486 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: a way to say you're next? Completely unrelated to current events, 487 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: by the way, So this is this is this is 488 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: on the left wing progressive Blue Sky platform. They're they're 489 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: exchanging ways to threaten insurance executives with death without explicitly 490 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: saying though saying so, so you could. Lorenz went on 491 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: to write, people have very justified hatred towards insurance company 492 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: CEOs because these executives are responsible for an unfathomable amount 493 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: of death and suffering. As someone who's against death and suffering, 494 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: I think it's a good call to call out this 495 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 2: broken system and the people in power who enable it. 496 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 2: And then later on, after she got a backlash, she said, 497 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: I went into an courage peaceful letter writing campaigns. 498 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: Oh you didn't. 499 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: So it's gonna be open season on insurance executives. If 500 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: Taylor Lorenz gets her gets her wish. Uh two o'clock, 501 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: two o'clock, we're gonna have the uh, the owner on 502 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: and the attorney representing Nelson Grande and their dog, Conan. 503 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: Conan the dog was spared by a judge. You were 504 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: gonna be gonna be put to get death for biting 505 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: a neighbor. 506 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 3: He did not deserve death, and finally we got a 507 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: just ruling. 508 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: You know, one day I am gonna turn on the 509 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: TV and see you as the spokesperson for some kind 510 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: of animal animal advocacy, you know what. 511 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: That may be my next. 512 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: Career when they finally shut this place down. 513 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, that's that's it. 514 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from kf I 515 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 4: AM six. 516 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 2: Forty coming up after two o'clock we're gonna have a 517 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: Nelson Grande. H. He's the co owner of Conan. That's 518 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: the dog that was sentenced to death by the city 519 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 2: at Burbank. And Nelson went to court, had an attorney 520 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: named Jill Ryther representing Conan and the owners, and was 521 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 2: able to get Uh, he was able to get Conan cleared. 522 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 2: And Conan is now not going to be put to 523 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: death by Burbank. And we're going to explain this whole 524 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: this whole story which is gripped the city of Burbank 525 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: now for a week. By the way, he's up. We 526 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: got a revision on his ancestry. Uh, he's a pitbull 527 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: lab mix. There you go, So that is the pitbull 528 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 2: lab mix. 529 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: I have. 530 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: Several examples of woke politics being in its death throws. 531 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: You heard about the Washington Commanders who used to be 532 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: the Washington Redskins. Yes, for a few years, and then 533 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: people during the hysterical years of wokes started screaming, that's racist, 534 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: it's denigrating, it's degrading. Well, they may go back to 535 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: being the Redskins. And this all started with the team's 536 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: desire to maybe start playing in their old stadium again. 537 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: They used to play in Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium, 538 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: but it's gotten very old, and so they moved out 539 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 2: of the stadium, but they'd like to move back in, 540 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: but they needed the federal government to go along with it, 541 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: because the federal government controls Washington, d C. And they 542 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: control the public buildings in that city. And they made 543 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: a deal to go back to possibly go back to 544 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 2: the stadium if the team would feature their original logo 545 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: again because the family of the Indian chief who served 546 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: as the face of the Redskins for forty eight years, 547 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: the family wants the team to change their name back 548 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: and use the logo of the Blackfeet chief that you 549 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: could see in the insignia, and that became that became 550 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: a deal point. The old owner and the new owner 551 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: had said the Redskins name would not return, but then 552 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: the other day Magic Johnson, who owns a piece of 553 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: the team, says everything's on the table, especially after this year. 554 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: We'll see where we are with the name. The new 555 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: owner is named Josh Harris. He's a billionaire. Everybody seems 556 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: to be a billionaire now and he bought the team 557 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: with a group that included Magic Johnson, and so it 558 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 2: turns out the family was very upset that they removed 559 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: the insignia of the former Blackfeet chief, and apparently the 560 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: whole all Blackfeet nation was upset as well. And I 561 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 2: remember reading years ago when this was a controversy. These 562 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: woke activists had made a big ruckus out of nothing. 563 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: But the Washington Post did a poll of Native Americans 564 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: and found ninety percent loved the name Redskins and they 565 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: didn't want it to change. They didn't take it as 566 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 2: an insult or some kind of derogatory comment like the 567 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs and the Atlanta Breys. They were proud 568 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: of it that you know, a football team or a 569 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: baseball team. This is a team of fighters, team of warriors, 570 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: and they took it as as a great honor and 571 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: a compliment. But then you know, you had the hipster 572 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,959 Speaker 2: wokers get involved, people who probably never played football, they 573 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: don't like sports at all, but you know they would. 574 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: They would make a lot of noise, and eventually, corporate people, 575 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: being what they are, they get frightened, They get tired, 576 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: the sponsors get get get get frightened. Native Americans supported 577 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: the Redskins name. You believe that, and the Blackfeet Chief 578 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: family wants the name back. The family said, the fans 579 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: want him back, and we want him back. So it 580 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: seems for sure that the insignia is coming back with 581 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: his profile, and maybe that team nickname will return as well, 582 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: because it was around for eighty seven years. I remember 583 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: for a time the Idiot TV Networks when they carried 584 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: a Washington Redskins game, and before they changed to the Commanders, 585 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 2: they wouldn't say the name Redskins on screen. They used 586 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: the graphic that said Washington. 587 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 5: Well before they changed their name to the Commanders, they 588 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 5: were undecided and they just went by the Washington football team. 589 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: I remember that, that's right. 590 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: They were the Washington football team a lot a bunch 591 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: of fools. 592 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: So anyway, maybe the Redskins are coming back. 593 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 5: You know. 594 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: It's really funny. 595 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: I think in Atlanta, where the breat Braves play, they 596 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: used to have a character called Chief Nackahoma, and every 597 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: time a Brave hit a home run, Chief Knackahoma would 598 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: come out of his tepee and right field and do 599 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: a dance around the tepee and then go back inside, 600 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: and you had the tomahawk chop and fans would would 601 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: thrust their arm as if they were holding a tomahawk 602 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: and they still do that, which offends all the woke 603 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: sports riders. 604 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, every year I read one of those. 605 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: Columns every time the Braves are in the playoffs and 606 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: the whole country gets to see the Braves fans do 607 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: the tomahawk chop. 608 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 5: Braves fans do it. The Chiefs fans do with Florida 609 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 5: State seminoles, fans do it. There you go, I. 610 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: Just can't believe this. This is so racist. 611 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: All Right, we come back. We're gonna have Nelson Grande on. 612 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: He's the co owner of Conan, the dog who was 613 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: sentenced to death by those cretans on the city of Burbank, 614 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: the bureaucrats and Jill ryther Is attorney. They got Conan 615 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: off death row. He's gonna to live. Debor Mark live 616 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: in the CAFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been 617 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 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