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Speaker 2: Every little boy in Harris County grew up dreaming of

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Speaker 2: If all that happens, Texas can run the ball. Sure,

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Speaker 2: So you put that on any hype video you need to.

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Speaker 2: I think you'll be okay, though Academy Sports and Outdoors

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Speaker 2: And if your team's already already eliminated, I'm sorry they

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's half. That's just half of the playoff.

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Speaker 2: hear how easy? That just rolled off the tone, you know,

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Speaker 2: because like Ohio State grabbed, well, actually, Penn State grabbed

433
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Speaker 2: a ten ozero lead over Ohio State. No Ohio State

434
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 2: came back to win, so no one remembers it.

435
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: But I was there.

436
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: I was standing on the sideline, and I'm like, well,

437
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: Penn State's got this game false. But what if they

438
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 2: grab attend to nothing lead in this game? Well, it

439
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 2: would be wonderful and it would make Notre Dame very

440
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 2: uncomfortable because it would make them play catch up. But

441
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 2: here's the problem. It is so easy to say, it's

442
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: a lot harder to do. And the reason I know

443
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: that is because if it was easy to do, someone

444
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: else would have done it already, and they haven't. Since

445
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 2: like week two, no one has made Notre Dame feel

446
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: all that uncomfortable here. So you know, the whole Riley

447
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 2: Leonard has to do this, love has to do that.

448
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 2: On the ground, maybe they don't have to do anything.

449
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: Maybe they have to duplicate what they've been doing every week.

450
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: It's weird looking because the box score doesn't look dominant.

451
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 2: You got Notre Dame with like two hundred and thirty

452
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 2: yards offense and they're winning. And the way they do

453
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: that is a complimentary nature, really beautiful. You know, if

454
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 2: you're old school and you love watching offense, defense, special teams,

455
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 2: and you really do believe that those three are equal

456
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Speaker 2: in value, which not a lot do anymore. They say it,

457
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 2: but do they believe it, Well, you can find out

458
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: by how they think about Notre Dame. I am guilty

459
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 2: of this. I'm admitting to you I am hypocritical because

460
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: I have said this in the past. I have said

461
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: special teams are a third of the game. But yet

462
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: when it comes time to value it with Notre Dame,

463
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 2: I haven't some of the year, and then the turnovers

464
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: just boggle my mind. So what happens in this game

465
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 2: with the health situation will be paramount. But then with

466
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Speaker 2: a guy that is healthy, Tyler Warren, what happens with him?

467
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Speaker 2: Now this is fascinating when you dive into the weapons

468
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: Penn State has Tyler Warren by a wide margin, is

469
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Speaker 2: the biggest threat you have to worry about in the

470
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Speaker 2: passing game I watch. I once watched him catch like

471
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: sixteen or seventeen balls in one game against USC because

472
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: it was this year. So Notre Dame big topic of

473
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Speaker 2: conversation around the Irish right now. How do we stop

474
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Speaker 2: Tyler Warren? Well you don't. How do you contain him?

475
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 2: How do you defend him? How do you limit him?

476
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: Well that is up to the imagination of Al Golden.

477
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 2: But one thing to note is Notre Dame is number

478
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: two in FBS this year in man coverage percentage, so

479
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: they play man a lot. They are one of four

480
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Speaker 2: teams that run that man higher than fifty percent of

481
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Speaker 2: the time. And I would imagine with the lack of

482
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Speaker 2: maybe other game breaking, playmaker type weapons out wide. On

483
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 2: Penn State side, they'll probably do that here. I don't

484
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 2: know that Notre Dame feels there is any need to

485
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: change what got them here. Penn State's best threats in

486
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: the passing game are Tyler Warren at tight end and

487
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 2: their tailbacks. Now there could be a one off where

488
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: that's different, and they certainly did try to go downfield

489
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: several times in the deep ball against Poise State. They

490
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 2: tried and maybe you get a PI there Drew Allard

491
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: finding out if he can hit the roof of the

492
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: building with some of those deep balls. Quinn Youwers throws

493
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: a ball like that sometimes too. How do they play them?

494
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: Do they do linebacker under safety over like, There's a

495
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: lot of different combinations and looks you can give when

496
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: you don't have two or three more big time receiving

497
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: threads that you have to you know, not ignore, but

498
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: you have to dedicate special attention to.

499
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Speaker 1: So I still wonder about that.

500
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Speaker 2: I wonder if that third phase it really is impossible

501
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Speaker 2: to predict here, you know, just as a mental exercise,

502
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: I'd love to see what notre name looks like trailing

503
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 2: from behind it stands to reason.

504
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: Just logic screams at.

505
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: You, you are not gonna go three times or four

506
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: times in a tournament like this and just never trail.

507
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: Who knows.

508
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe they will or maybe someone

509
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: else will. But with the kind of margin for er

510
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: or ball they play being very low, logic screams at me. Hey,

511
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: eventually they're gonna have to come from behind.

512
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: Now.

513
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Speaker 2: The follow up question is will they be able to

514
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Speaker 2: with Penn State here? Penn State's played all kinds of games,

515
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: So Penn State, I've watched them trail to those games

516
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: they lost, but I've watched them trail. It's tough to

517
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: see Notre Dame constantly moving the ball against them. Penn

518
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 2: State defensively checks out. So again that sounds dismissive of

519
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: Notre Dame.

520
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: It's not.

521
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: It just means the same thing it meant against Georgia

522
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: because Notre Dame didn't move the ball a whole lot

523
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: against Georgia.

524
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Speaker 1: They didn't have to.

525
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: The thing you have to sell yourself on is will

526
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Speaker 2: the typical Penn State game show up? Will the typical

527
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: game script show up? Will they force you to put

528
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: the ball on the ground? See everyone says we can't

529
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 2: hand the game to them. I'm sure some Georgia folks

530
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: walked away saying, boy, we gave that game away. They

531
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: took it. They took it. It wasn't unforced. They took

532
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: it from you. They took the game. They forced turnovers,

533
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: they forced the issue on special teams. So a couple

534
00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: of the margin type things that I was looking at here,

535
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: and get some chunk yardage on the ground against Notre Dame.

536
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: They're fifty seventh and explosive runs allowed, so they're not terrible,

537
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: but it is there, and Penn State is peaking at

538
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: the right time on that front. They have averaged two

539
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty three per game on the ground their

540
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: last three, and I mean that is Oregon and then

541
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: that's SMU and Boise. So those are three playoff teams

542
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: that they've done that against. They do that again, we'll

543
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: see because I got to see it to believe it.

544
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: But if they do that again, it's going to be

545
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: a good day for Penn State. Down in Miami red zone,

546
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: here's the key, one of the hidden keys. At least

547
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: Notre Dame gets down there. They do not settle for

548
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: field goals, just throughout the season. The book on Notre

549
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: Dame is if they get in the red zone, they

550
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: are using all four downs to get in the end zone,

551
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: or you turn them over on downs and they'll trust

552
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: their defense.

553
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: They don't kick many field goals.

554
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 2: Penn State's defense is the best in the country at

555
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: red zone touchdown percentage allowed. You could very easily see

556
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: in the limited trips to the red zone that Notre

557
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: Dame probably does get in this game. It comes down

558
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: to one or two fourth down conversion attempts, fourth and goal,

559
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: touchdown attempts or turnover on downs could very well be

560
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: And if that is the case, you love where you're

561
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 2: at if you'rre Penn State. So let's take a look

562
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: at what the FanDuel number is right now. I'm looking

563
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: at Notre Dame minus one and a half. Our model

564
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: has Notre Dame minus three. I think Penn State's going

565
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: to win the game. Of course, that's because I'm a

566
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: Notre Dame hater.

567
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: It's not.

568
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: It's because when I have a team that is that

569
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: dependent on turnovers being a core tenant of their formula,

570
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: and I see it continue to happen, I go with history.

571
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: History tells me, there's eventually going to be a game

572
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: where it doesn't happen, and if that core tenant of

573
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: your formula does not show up, then it's just up

574
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: to you to win the game in a traditional manner.

575
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: T additional here would mean you've got to move the

576
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: ball well enough, and I simply don't believe Notre Dame

577
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: will be able to do it. Now, if Notre Dame's

578
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: formula shows up, and if they are plus in the

579
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: turnover battle, they'll probably win the game. I'm just going

580
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: to bank on this being the game where that doesn't

581
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: show up. So I am taking penn State to win

582
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: and not move the ball well either. By the way,

583
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: I do not have a ton of confidence there, but

584
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: I am going to slightly leave Penn State to win,

585
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: and therefore I obviously think they cover quick trip will

586
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: indeed fuel you, no matter whoomst you are a fan of. Now,

587
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: if you're driving, God bless you from State College or

588
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 2: anywhere in Pennsylvania, from South Bend anywhere in Indiana.

589
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: If you guys are driving, that's a long trip. That's

590
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: a long trip.

591
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 2: I have driven from Columbus, Georgia to South Bend and

592
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: back same day. Well, same twenty four hour period. But

593
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 2: I have never driven from South Bend to Miami. If

594
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: you're doing it, that's the bad news. The good news

595
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: is you're going to see an incredible game and you

596
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 2: will pass by several quick trips quick try maybe plural

597
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: quick trippies there you go along the way, I would

598
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: humbly encourage you to fuel up there, and if you do,

599
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: let me know, I may get your free tank of

600
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: gas out of the equation. They have fueled the whole

601
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: New Saturday Tour the entire year. We will be in

602
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: Miami for this game, and we will be there at

603
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: the past of quick trip keeping our tank full. We

604
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: appreciate them so much. Let me get some water right quick.

605
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: I have not had a single hiccup on air. I

606
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: don't mean that metaphorically, I mean physically. I have not

607
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: had a hiccup so far. So Jesse, I don't know

608
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: where you learned it. I don't know how you learned it,

609
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: but this time you were right on the hiccup prevention methodology.

610
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Speaker 2: Whomstead of thunk it two apostrophes and whomstead of Okay,

611
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: I've got a lot left to get to. We got

612
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: a jam packed show. Make sure you're subscribed if you

613
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: already good subscription numbers this time of year.

614
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: Let's keep it rolling. Transfer portal still rolling, Man, still

615
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 1: a lot going on.

616
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: Zachariah Branch just today and Zion branches brother both committed

617
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: to Georgia. So Zachariah Branch is the bigger haul here.

618
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: It's the bigger story in my opinion, number two receiver available,

619
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Speaker 2: number four overall. Now, you can't view this in a

620
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: vacuum because I think you have to pair this with

621
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 2: some younger guys. That Georgia folks are pretty confident in him.

622
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: Like I know you've heard this before, and I'm not

623
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: gonna overstate it, so pretend I'm speaking in all lower case,

624
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: no caps.

625
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: There never any caps on this show.

626
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: They are confident that they have got some really really

627
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: good potential, young, potential at wide receivers. So now they're

628
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: bringing Branch in and you plug him in. Arian Smith,

629
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: for example, just declared for the draft today, So you

630
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: hope you get a version of him, but with better hands,

631
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: all due respect, better hands. I think we all know

632
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: we could use that in Athens. What does the offense

633
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: in general look like? This is what you can't know.

634
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: What you can't know is Mike.

635
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: Bobo still there?

636
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: If he's still there, what does Kirby Smart think they

637
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: need to do? Does he think they need to change anything?

638
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: These sorts of questions are answered in the spring. So's

639
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: that's big news. Point one point two. Lesser news to

640
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: me is Jaden Rashada is leaving Georgia. So jad and Rashada,

641
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: Oh man, what's the timetable here?

642
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: So?

643
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: He was committed to Miami, then he decommitted, Then he

644
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: committed to Florida, then he decommitted, Then he went to

645
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: Arizona State. He couldn't beat levit out. He went in

646
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: the portal. He wound up at Georgia. As he did that,

647
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: he decided to sue Billy Napier. He hasn't started a

648
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: game yet so so far, that's Jaden Rashata's career. I

649
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: think he went to Georgia with the intent to sit

650
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: and learn sort of the Dante more route. More on

651
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: him in a second, uh And it probably became pretty

652
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: clear in Bowl practice number one, with understocked and just

653
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: having to take the job and number two Ryan Peglici

654
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: running with the twos that he wasn't gonna start for

655
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: Georgia this upcoming year. So he wants to go somewhere

656
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: he can start that's not gonna be Athen's. And so

657
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: we'll see him on the move yet again. And you

658
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: just you keep on spinning the portal wheel until it

659
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: lands somewhere where you're capable of starting. Look, I got

660
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: a suggestion, maybe down a notch, maybe the G five level.

661
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: You know, just because you had five stars next to

662
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: your name doesn't mean you're a five star talent right now.

663
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: Maybe it means that you got to go start somewhere

664
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: that in another life you've viewed as being beneath you.

665
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, you know, I just uncle

666
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: Josh here trying to hand out suggestions. Next up, you're

667
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: gonna have to give me a second. I have to

668
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: make sure I get the pronunciation right. Jared Keowa sung

669
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: of Pola Telly. Okay, here we go big news this

670
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: week at Oregon. Jared kiahwe sung a Poul Telly, which

671
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: is as close as we're going to get to pronouncing

672
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: a former five star quarterbacks name who was enrolled and

673
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: on campus in Eugene for like five minutes. And if

674
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: you're curious about what happened and why he went in

675
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: the portal and has now wound up at Cal.

676
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: It is because he checked in. Oregan's in the middle

677
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: of you know.

678
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: Having the audacity to prepare for a playoff game, and

679
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: so you know, he's kind of doing what anyone would

680
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: have a new and roll ly do work with scout team.

681
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: Your impact on this roster will be felt in the future,

682
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: certainly not right now. We're busy and he got to

683
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: see Dante Moore. I don't think he viewed Dante Moore

684
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: as a quarterback he could beat out. I think he

685
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: wants to start as a freshman. Whatever the fascination with

686
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: that is. I have never heard an NFL scout talk

687
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: about how important it was that this kid looked good

688
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: as a freshman when we draft him three years later.

689
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: But you can get advice from all different angles. So

690
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: whatever advice he it was that he needed to hop

691
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: back in the portal.

692
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: He's headed to Cal.

693
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: You want a fun little tidbit on that he's gonna

694
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 2: go to Cal, He will start. Do you know who

695
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 2: his offensive coordinator is going to be at Cal? Trivia time?

696
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: How much have you been paying attention to this wonderful

697
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: sport of ours. His offensive coordinator at Cal will be

698
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: none other than Brian Harson. That's right, friends, Brian Harson

699
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: overlooked headline because the playoff is engulfing everything else. Brian

700
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: Harson is the new offensive coordinator at Cal. So congrats

701
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: to him. NY's got a quarterback falling in his lap.

702
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: They probably didn't think they were gonna have. Let's see

703
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: what he does with him. Number four quarterbacks. A big

704
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: get for Cal because remember they lost Mendoza who went

705
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: to Indiana. This is just standard portal sentence now, so

706
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: they needed it and they got him. Squirrel White has

707
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: left Tennessee. He is headed to Florida State. Wanted to

708
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: be the clear cut number two in an offense that

709
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: features a lot of two wide receivers. Okay, you remember

710
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: two years ago he had sixty seven catches for over

711
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: eight hundred yards, so we saw a glimpse. It wasn't

712
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: even close to that this past year.

713
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

714
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: Probably a good move here. They're retooling though in Tallahassee.

715
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: Yet again they're retooling through the portal. I don't know

716
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: if it's gonna work. Gus Malsan is the offensive coordinator.

717
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: There by the way, if in case you haven't been

718
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: keeping track with how many ex Auburn head coaches have

719
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 2: become offensive coordinators at different outposts in the ACC. Related note,

720
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: in case you've forgotten that, yes, Cow along with FSU

721
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: are both in the ACC. Again standard sentence in college

722
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: football these days, that's the stitch. Also, not to be

723
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: left off the board entirely. I do want our friends

724
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: in Seattle to know I'm paying attention to what Washington

725
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 2: is doing.

726
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: So they've landed johntaey.

727
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: Cook, former five star receiver Jedfish looked at him and said,

728
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: we can work with that.

729
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: And also Ta Carrio Da.

730
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: They're the crystal ball favorite for him now he was

731
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 2: the number one corner is number one corner in the portal.

732
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: He's at Arizona right now. Oh some thought, is he

733
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: going to go to the draft? It looks like he

734
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: may be headed to you know, do one more go

735
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 2: around in college? Remember this situation, This decision is different now.

736
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: Used to be am I going to forego the NFL

737
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: and totally risk it playing another year in college to

738
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: get the reward of upping my draft stock. Now it's

739
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: I can make a lot of money stay in one

740
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: more year to play college ball, and yeah, maybe I

741
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: hope to ultimately make more in the NFL, but the

742
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: risk reward dynamics totally different with the portal now. So

743
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 2: year two under Jeed Fish at Washington, getting some good

744
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: players there to plug in. Rock Hills, South Carolina is

745
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: tuned in former home of Jadeveon Clowney. If I remember

746
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: my recruiting cycles correctly, Saint Petersburg, Florida, Denton, Texas. You

747
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: guys are all tuned in, and I appreciate you so much.

748
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: We had some questions the other night when we did

749
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: that mail bag episode that I wanted to get to.

750
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: And then the other night I was just alone in

751
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: a hotel room in Los Angeles at like one am

752
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 2: Pacific time, no less, and I did a random mail

753
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: bag podcast only and I did not get to these questions.

754
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: And I may do another one of those this week

755
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: because that was really fun. I sounded like some of

756
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: you thought I was intoxicated. I drank zero point zero

757
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: drops of alcohol last year.

758
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't that.

759
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: It was I had just gotten off a four and

760
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: a half hour flight and it was one o'clock in

761
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: the morning three o'clock body time. I just didn't want

762
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: to fall asleep yet, So that's why I sounded the

763
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: way I did. I answered every question coherently. Let's see

764
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: if I can do it here. Larry from beautiful Andalujah, Alabama,

765
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: former home of a five star linebacker Nico Johnson. I

766
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: believe is Alabama about to take a real big step

767
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: back after the way the twenty twenty four season ended.

768
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: It feels like the Sabin golden days were a long

769
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: time ago now. Well, or y, they kind of were

770
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: a long time ago, because I'm going to make a

771
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: not so humble suggestion that even in the latter years

772
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: of Nick Saban, the Nick Saban Golden years were kind

773
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: of in the rear view mirror. I'm just saying that

774
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: defensive profile sort of tapered off a little bit. The

775
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: penalized nature of those teams in the latter Saban years

776
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: very uncharacteristic maybe of the past.

777
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: And also Nil and.

778
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: The portal had started to chip away a little bit,

779
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 2: not a lot, but a little bit. So let's talk

780
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: about this because I said a lot when kayln de

781
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: Bor got to Alabama. I still think everything I said.

782
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: I think they'll be one of the top programs in

783
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: the country. I've got a thought on twenty twenty five.

784
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: I just talk in general. Here, let's address the Sabin

785
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: Golden Days, as Larry put them. Not only is Alabama

786
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 2: not going to touch the Sabin Golden Days again, nobody

787
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: in college football is going to touch the Sabin Golden

788
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 2: Days again. And I'm gonna tell you why we don't

789
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: play the same sport anymore. Kirby's finding this out right

790
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: now in Georgia, we don't play the same sport anymore.

791
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: So you can talk about the Saban blueprint all you

792
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: want to. First off, his former coaches were having a

793
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 2: tough time duplicating that. Even in the previous state of

794
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: affairs that were college football recruiting and roster building, they

795
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: couldn't pull it off.

796
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: Even then.

797
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: Now it got to where Saban realized he wasn't going

798
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: to be able to pull it off, so he retired.

799
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: So I'm going to tell you, no one's pulling it off.

800
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: If Saban came out of retirement and took his old

801
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: job again, he wasn't going to pull it off anymore.

802
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: The best of the best in college football right now

803
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: are not going to pull that off. Sustainably long term,

804
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: like Ohio State looks like a machine. Right now, Watch

805
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: how hard it is year over year to try and

806
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: duplicate that good Kirby at Georgia, watch right now, Just

807
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: watch them the other night. Well, Josh, they had their

808
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: backup quarterback, They sure did, they sure did. But you

809
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: know what else I saw? I saw him all year

810
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: unable to look like their vintage cells on the offensive

811
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: line at running back. Why well, because they didn't have

812
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: the same kind of depth they used to have. Why well,

813
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: because people have rated their twos and their threes.

814
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: That's why.

815
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: And they in good faith cannot sit there and overpay

816
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: those guys to the degree that a second or third

817
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: tier team is willing to step up and pay, just

818
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 2: out of principle, they're not going to do that. So

819
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: no one's doing that. So if you're thinking Kaylin de

820
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: boor the standard he has to meet, the bar he

821
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: has to clear, is doing what Sabin used to do,

822
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. If you're thinking

823
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: that at Oregon, if you're thinking that at Texas, if

824
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: you're thinking that wherever about your current head coach. That's

825
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: the standard. And if you don't do what Sabin did

826
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: or don't come close to that. You're not achieving greatness

827
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: like that is setting yourself up for mental anguish in

828
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: the coming years.

829
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: Now, what about a more realistic approach.

830
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,959
Speaker 2: What if instead of thinking Bam, I's got to look

831
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: like Saban's go years vintage Saban, Bama's got.

832
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: To look like Bama and it's prime.

833
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: Instead of thinking that, instead of thinking that, Caitlyn de

834
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 2: Boor's got to clear the Saban bar to be deemed

835
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: a success. What if I were more realistic. What if

836
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: I said, you know, my expectation for Debor is he

837
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: needs to recruit at a high level, average a top

838
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: six or seven class per year. They need to be

839
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 2: competitive resource wise. They should be in years to come

840
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: a very very high caliber coaching staff. So he should

841
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: not be out coached, They should not be out talented

842
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: or out developed. And they should compete every year. They

843
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: should be one of the top five competing programs every

844
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: year in college football, and then you let the chips

845
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: fall where they may. If that's my standard, If that's

846
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: my expectation, I think.

847
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: He'll reach it. I think you'll meet that.

848
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: So the reason I think that and the reason some

849
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: people don't is because they looked really really hit or

850
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: missed this year. So this past last year, I mean

851
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: it was crazy because the same year that saw them

852
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: beat Georgia and just totally throttle LSU was the same

853
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: year that saw them humbled by Vandy and Oklahoma. And

854
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: you're looking at it and saying, how is this the

855
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 2: same team? Well, the way it was the same team

856
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: is to understand that the quarterback positions the most important

857
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: position in sports, and they were held hostage by that

858
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 2: position all year. I mean, how schizophrenic did that offense look?

859
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: Man?

860
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: How did Debor's offense look this year? It wasn't Debor's offense,

861
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: it was does Jayalen Millers show up or not? I

862
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: highly suspect that in the coming years, what Alabama is

863
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: doing offensively will number one, be more consistent and effective

864
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: than what they did this year. Number two, it won't

865
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: look like what they did this year. Their entire status,

866
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: their entire odds and hopes and aspirations as a team

867
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: week to week were held completely hostage by the quarterback position.

868
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: Now that's not the first time that's ever happened. It's

869
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: just that normally we are a lot more consistent in

870
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: your performance level, especially from a multi year starter at

871
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: the quarterback position, than they were this year. So Keelan

872
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: Russell is your guy. Keelan Russell is an incoming five

873
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: star quarterback, and whatever Ty Simpson and Austin Mack are

874
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 2: this year, Kielan Russell is the future of that program.

875
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: The way I choose to look at Alabama right now

876
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: is through a two year lens, and that is by

877
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. I think Keelan Russell is your starter,

878
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: and I think you are competing for a national championship

879
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: with him as your starter.

880
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: Now.

881
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: If you could add a bonus cherry on top that

882
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: they compete for it in twenty twenty five, that'd be wonderful.

883
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: This is not some poverty program. They will be very

884
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: competitive in twenty twenty five. I don't know what they

885
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: are at quarterback right now. I don't know what they're

886
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: going to get out of Ty Simpson. I don't know

887
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: what they're going to get out of Austin Mack because

888
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: we haven't seen him play. So if it's not either

889
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: one of those guys, then I'm banking on a true

890
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: freshman coming in and meedately playing championship caliber ball. I

891
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 2: choose to never expect that out of anyone, and if

892
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: I get it, I'm just pleasantly surprised by it.

893
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: So he'll be okay, Bama will be fine there.

894
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: But I would say the thing that gives me the

895
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: most confidence about Bama right now is their talent acquisition profile,

896
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: their roster profile. And you may look at that and say, what,

897
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: they didn't look elite this year. Oh they weren't. They

898
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: weren't quarterback position chief among those. But then even downstream

899
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: from that, no, it's not some vintage mid twenty teens

900
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: sab and roster. He knew that when he left, by

901
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: the way, and might I suggest that was one of

902
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: the reasons he left. And so Caitlyn Demoor inherited what

903
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: he inherited. But I'll tell you the hallmark that is

904
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: and will be shared by the elite programs moving forward

905
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: in college football. It's not how much money you have

906
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: to spend, it's how you're spending it. So what you

907
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: will see in years to come is you'll see the

908
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: big spenders spending big, but you won't always know it

909
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: because they're spending it on their guys. You have to

910
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: be able to do is you have to be able

911
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: to evaluate and get the guys you want out of

912
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: high school and then develop them in house. So you

913
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 2: go evaluate and recruit your guys, you develop your guys,

914
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: and then you pay your guys. Ohio State just did

915
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 2: this and it's not even realized because people keep paying

916
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 2: attention to a couple of the big portal acquisitions they had.

917
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: You really think they spent twenty plus million dollars on

918
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: a few portal guys. No, they spent it on the

919
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 2: guys they recruited out of high school and developed in house.

920
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: They're paying a lot of their guys. More.

921
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: Alabama just had a bunch of guys declared not for

922
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: the draft, but declare they're returning for another year. They

923
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: had some other guys declare they're leaving. That is in

924
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: case you can't realize what's going on them evaluating their roster,

925
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: finding the guys they think they can win with, and

926
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: paying them. They are reinvesting in the ones they know,

927
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 2: and they're gonna shed some skin just like everyone else will.

928
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: And they'll add some guys from the portal. It'll be supplemental.

929
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 2: They will not rely on the portal to when and

930
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: this past recruiting cycle, they landed the number two class

931
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 2: in the country. So that's version one of them recruiting

932
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: under a guy that I was told probably couldn't recruit

933
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: the South very well. But just pay attention to that.

934
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: Pay attention to how good the high school classes they

935
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: land are. But then how much do they feel like

936
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 2: they need to go to the portal versus how much

937
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: do they just feel like reinvesting in like the Ryan

938
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 2: Williams or Jalen and backways of the world, to keep

939
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 2: the guys they trusted and evaluated recruited out of high

940
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: school in the program multiple years because that's how you

941
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: build culture. But that's how you build a roster that

942
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: you can depend on. Ohio State may be about to

943
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 2: win a national championship. All due respect, they're not doing

944
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: it because they have quinch On Judkins. They're doing it

945
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: because they recruited guys in some cases last year in

946
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith, in other cases multiple years ago. But they

947
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: recruited them and then they reinvested in them, and then

948
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: Caleb is available, absolutely will take him. Judkins is available,

949
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely will take him. I remember talking to Ryan Day

950
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: about that in spring, and he said, when Judkins was available.

951
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 2: First thing we did is we get on the phone

952
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: with him and we tell him, Trevion's not leaving FYI,

953
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: So if you're looking to come in here and be

954
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 2: the premiere feature back, this is probably not the place

955
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: for you. And Judkins said, no, man, I'm all about that,

956
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: and that's why they took him. But they took him

957
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: to pair with a guy that they had recruited and

958
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 2: developed out of high school.

959
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: Is the point.

960
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 2: So if Alabama continues on that trajectory, Caitlin de bor'

961
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: is a stud so they guy knows how to coach football,

962
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: They'll be fine there. It's just that it was what

963
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: it was in year one. Now, I got some buddies

964
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: who think, oh, dude, that halftime in that Bowl game,

965
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: I think he should have benched Milrow and put in

966
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: one of his backup quarterbacks.

967
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: You can think that.

968
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: I'm totally fine with that, and it was ugly. I

969
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: don't know this because I have never asked anyone in

970
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: that building about it. I almost think that they had

971
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 2: gotten themselves and maybe Kaitlyn Boord gotten himself into the

972
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: mindset of I'm gonna let it be what it is

973
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: in year one, I'm gonna let it play out. Maybe,

974
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: just maybe some people around here need to see what

975
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 2: it looks like if it plays out their way, because

976
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: from here on out, it's gonna play out my way,

977
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: and so that your way nine wins and my way tbd.

978
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 2: But my way is the way it's gonna work because

979
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: I'm the head coach. I'm the one they handed the

980
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: keys to. What I'm saying is not to make an

981
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: excuse for them going nine and whatever this year. They underachieved.

982
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 2: They should have been better as a team than they

983
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: were this year. But what I am saying is I

984
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: think there was maybe a little give on the front

985
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 2: end to get a little bit more on the back end.

986
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: That's a theory of mine. You can do whatever you

987
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: want to with him.

988
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: So are you going to anything that requires a ticket

989
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: in the coming weeks? If you are, I come bearing

990
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: good news. I can make you spend less money to

991
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: do that. We have partnered with seat geek because they

992
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: know that a lot of you are going to playoff games.

993
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: But I also low key know a lot of you

994
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: just want to go watch SmackDown in person so you

995
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: can see Joe Tess call the action from ringside. Or

996
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 2: maybe you want to go check out a concert. Maybe

997
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: you want to do I don't know what you do

998
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 2: in your spare time, but if it requires a ticket,

999
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: they've got it at seat geek payt State ten. That's

1000
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: the promo code. I get you a discount. Don't care

1001
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: if it's football, don't care if it's croquet like. Management

1002
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: may want to go watch a different kind of sporting

1003
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: event than Director Colin does.

1004
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: But both of you.

1005
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: Can get to the checkout line at seat Geek and

1006
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,040
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1007
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: There's no catch. I don't need you to sign up

1008
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,479
Speaker 2: for anything. That's it, and that's all. Seat geek paate

1009
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: State ten the end. All right, let's move on. Very

1010
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: interesting question. I have flirted around with this, but we

1011
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: haven't just outright attacked it on the show. I need

1012
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: to take another sip of water so that I can

1013
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 2: actually get through the rest of the show. Hydration very important.

1014
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what company the clear cup is from.

1015
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: It's not like Zevia. The clear cup company has not

1016
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: really reached out to us. So remember when the show

1017
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: came on the air some fifty one minutes ago, I

1018
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: asked a question that leads us to this. John from Mountain,

1019
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: California said, how can you say there will never be

1020
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: a Cinderella in the college football playoff when we now

1021
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: have twelve teams and more of them can make it

1022
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: and win it all. Well, the way I can say that, John,

1023
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: I will explain to you. It's very simple. But the

1024
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: first thing I need to ask everyone, not just John,

1025
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: every one of us has to answer this because I

1026
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 2: have found that there's a big difference person to person

1027
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: and how we define Cinderella. So I'm going to tell

1028
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: you how I define Cinderella. It's winning a championship. Someone

1029
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: who's not expected to win a title winning a title. Now,

1030
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: the first bit of pushback I'll get there is common

1031
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: as I've seen, and that is, Josh, you don't have

1032
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 2: to win a title to be a Cinderella story. In fact,

1033
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: most of the Cinderella stories in college basketball never go

1034
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: on to win the title. It's just that they win

1035
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: a few more games than they were expected to. Yeah,

1036
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: I don't care about that because I don't care about

1037
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: college football compared to college basketball, because there are two

1038
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: different sports.

1039
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: So I fully respect your opinion.

1040
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: If that's how you think what I'm saying is the

1041
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: point I'm about to make is moot. If all you

1042
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: think of as a cinderella in college football is maybe

1043
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: Boise makes the tournament and wins a game, and that's

1044
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: a cinderella story.

1045
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: We just define it differently.

1046
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 2: So if you define a cinderella run, in other words,

1047
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: as an unexpected team that gets in double digit underdog,

1048
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: they win a game, boom, you have your Cinderella.

1049
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: That's possible. I'm not saying that's impossible.

1050
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying it is impossible, now not unlikely, impossible for

1051
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: a lower seeded Boise State GFI kind of team to

1052
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 2: make the playoff and win the whole title. Because to me,

1053
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: the college football playoff is not about access. It's not

1054
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: about just making the playoff. The entire purpose of a

1055
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: post season tournament that features only twelve teams is to

1056
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: crown a national champ. You're in the tournament because allegedly

1057
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: you're good enough to win a championship. Now we all

1058
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: know that's not real, but allegedly, you know, to keep

1059
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: up the guys, you're good enough to win a title.

1060
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: So if you win the title, you succeeded, and if

1061
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: you didn't, okay, you had a good season, but it's

1062
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: not a Cinderella story. So with that in mind, I

1063
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: have made statements recently to the tune of a Cinderella

1064
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: story is never going to happen in college football, meaning

1065
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: a lower seeded, you know, double digit underdog boise type

1066
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: team is not going to win a national championship.

1067
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: And I'm dead right about this. I promise you. I am.

1068
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: Wish I wasn't, but promise you I am. But John

1069
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 2: and people who think like John have hit me back

1070
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 2: and said, no, that's how does that make any sense?

1071
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 2: Because nowadays we'll have more of those kinds of teams

1072
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: who make the playoff. Therefore there's a higher likelihood that

1073
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 2: one of them goes on to win the whole thing.

1074
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: I understand why you think that way, but you're not right.

1075
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: It's not going to play out that way. Here's the problem.

1076
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: If you long to see a Cinderella win it all

1077
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: in college football, you didn't realize it, but your best

1078
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 2: shot was the BCS era, and next to that, your

1079
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: best shot at a Cinderella type team ever winning at

1080
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 2: all was the four team playoff era. You were as

1081
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: close as you will ever get to a Cinderella G

1082
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: five type team winning at all in twenty twenty one

1083
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: when since he made it, or even twenty twenty two

1084
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: when TCU made it, even though they were in the

1085
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: big twelve as you were ever going to get, you

1086
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: just didn't realize it because they got blown out. I'm

1087
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: not saying they ever had a good shot to begin with.

1088
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: Don't misunderstand me. They were never probably going to do

1089
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: it to begin with. But percentage wise, odds wise, you

1090
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: were as close as you were ever going to get.

1091
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: I'll do you one better. Right now, we're still in

1092
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: the era of the twelve team playoff where you have

1093
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: the auto bid system. So like an Arizona state in

1094
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 2: the lower tier of the P four or Boise, they

1095
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: can get first round buys. They don't even have to

1096
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: play in the first round. They get a bye to

1097
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 2: the second round. You may not realize it right now,

1098
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 2: but right now in the twelve team era, you're as

1099
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 2: close as you'll ever get now, because they are not

1100
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: going to keep that format for long, and it will

1101
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: eventually be just the top seeds in order, or worse,

1102
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: it will be the power conferences get a guaranteed amount

1103
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: of seats at the table. Either way you are screwed,

1104
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 2: and so you're never going to see a Cinderella story. So, John,

1105
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 2: the reason I said it like that is because I

1106
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: understand how difficult it is for a team that is

1107
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: outmatched roster wise and staff wise to win three or

1108
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: four games in December and January. They're not going to

1109
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: do it. Even if even if Boise would have beaten

1110
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: Penn State, they didn't and the game was in hand. Honestly,

1111
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: I think Penn State played C plus football offensively and

1112
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: the game was still what thirty one to fourteen or

1113
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: something like that. It was never gonna happen. But if

1114
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 2: Boise did win that game, what were they going to.

1115
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: Have to do?

1116
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 2: They were then gonna have to go through Notre Dame

1117
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: and probably Ohio State, and if not Ohio State, go

1118
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: through a Texas team that was good enough to beat

1119
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: Ohio State. Not happening, whereas in the past Cincinnati. You

1120
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: can say what you want to, but they only had

1121
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 2: to win two games. Now it was against Alabama and

1122
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: then it would have been against Georgia. Would they have

1123
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: pulled it off. No, But they had a better shot

1124
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: than if they had to play four teams like that.

1125
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: TCU twenty twenty two, not a G five team, but

1126
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 2: certainly a team out of nowhere. They make the playoff,

1127
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: they even win a game, they beat Michigan, and then

1128
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: they go and just get obliterated by Georgia.

1129
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: And so I said this the other day.

1130
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: I said, hey, TCU and Cincinnati, those were your best shots.

1131
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 2: Someone said, well, Josh, TCU got blown out.

1132
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: I know.

1133
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: Then I just paused, like, does this person realize they're

1134
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: making my point for me?

1135
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: They didn't. It's not going to happen.

1136
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: So again, you have to define which kind of college

1137
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: football you want. I've never really cared all that much

1138
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: about Cinderella stories, not that I don't enjoy them, but

1139
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: I've never defined the caliber of college football like how

1140
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: much I'm being entertained by college football by whether a

1141
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: Cinderella team makes a run. I don't even watch March

1142
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: Madness and think that people can call me elitist.

1143
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: Like the places that care.

1144
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: The most and invest the most I've generally enjoyed seeing

1145
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: when That's not to say I don't enjoy Cinderella story

1146
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: every now and then, but by and large I've not

1147
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: relied on them. But some of you think otherwise. That's

1148
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: totally fine. Like some of you, Cinderella stories are like

1149
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: oxygen in March, which is okay, just don't count on it.

1150
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: In college football, this is this is this is not

1151
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 2: a fairytale world football. When when you get to put

1152
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: your hands on people legally and you get to impose

1153
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: physically your will, it's not a it's not an environment

1154
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: conducive to smaller guys. Consistently beating the bigger guys just

1155
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: not gonna happen. So if you're relying on that, you're

1156
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: setting yourself up for a long December. Every December. Wisha

1157
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: was wrong, But I think I'm right moving right along.

1158
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: Got a couple of things here. Time to time to

1159
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: rescue someone else from the ledge. Who is at this time?

1160
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: Colin?

1161
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: I think it's Oregon? Yeah, okay, William from up in Oregon,

1162
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: he said.

1163
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: But I'm a Ducks fan.

1164
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: And while we won the Big Ten, we had an

1165
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: undefeated regular season, I'm still not sure we're ready to

1166
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: seize the top dog spot yet with Dan Lanning? Am

1167
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: I just being stupid? No, You're not ready to seize

1168
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: the top dog spot with Dan Lanning right now. Dan

1169
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: Lanning's not ready to be the best coach in college

1170
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: football yet Dan Lanny's thirty eight years old, so it

1171
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 2: probably makes perfect sense that he's not ready to, in

1172
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: your words, seize the top dog spot.

1173
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: So what spot do they have.

1174
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: They are one of the best programs in the country

1175
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: right now, they are one of the best performing programs.

1176
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: They're one of the best talent acquisition in recruiting programs.

1177
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: They kill it in the portal. So what are they fourth?

1178
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: Are they sixth? Are they third? I'd say they're way

1179
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: up there. Lanning inherited a very good situation. So then

1180
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 2: the next thing you have to do is not screw

1181
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: that up, which he hasn't. And then you want to

1182
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 2: elevate the situation, which I would.

1183
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: Argue he has.

1184
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: You got to sustain it over a long period of time.

1185
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: But I go back, I go back to this sentiment

1186
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: that you get with these younger coaches. And Lanning is

1187
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 2: thirty eight years old. He is a head coach at

1188
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: thirty eight years old. That used to be unheard of

1189
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: at the major college level. And now it's like thirty eight, Man,

1190
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: you couldn't get the job at thirty one, thirty two?

1191
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: Come on now, kind of getting up there a little

1192
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: bit yeah, no, you're not. Also, I would argue age

1193
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: as a social construct and it's not real. But that's

1194
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: a whole another show. So Lanning thirty eight years old,

1195
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:35,479
Speaker 2: do you understand the comparison here? Like right now, Ryan

1196
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: Days dealing with this, Dan Lanning's dealing with this. Who

1197
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: else man that Kirby's dealt with it before, But then

1198
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 2: he won some titles, so everyone's shut up. You get

1199
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: compared to the all time greats and there is no

1200
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: context involved. So like Nick Saban in recent memory is

1201
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: the all time great. Well, actually, in any memory, I

1202
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: would argue he's the all time great. So Saban, I

1203
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: mean we are fresh off the Nick Saban era right

1204
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: where you had the best of all time by most

1205
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: discernible metrics, rack up seven national championships and that started

1206
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: in two thousand and three when he was with LSU

1207
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 2: and the last one he one was twenty twenty with Alabama.

1208
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: Just an incredible run.

1209
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: And then I got, guys, you know, like the question

1210
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 2: we just got man, Dan Lanning, I don't know that

1211
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 2: he's ready.

1212
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: To seize the top dog spot in the industry. Well

1213
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: he's not ready.

1214
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 2: He's ready to be the head coach at Oregon. I's

1215
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: ready to learn on the flys just like everyone else

1216
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 2: has done. But you know, it's not the biggest indictment

1217
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: in the world to tell me a thirty eight year

1218
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: old dude who had never had head coaching experience before

1219
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 2: Oregon lands at Oregon and a few years in he's

1220
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: not the best in the country.

1221
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: Well, the sport wouldn't be.

1222
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 2: Worth the whole heck of a lot if it were

1223
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: that easy to ascend to the top dog spot a

1224
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: ransom quick numbers. Do you realize Landing could coach another

1225
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 2: thirteen years and he'd still be younger than Nick Saban

1226
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: was when he won his first title out of seven.

1227
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: It's a little warped, is my suggestion.

1228
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: What Sabin did kind of ruin the mechanism for everyone

1229
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: because everyone holds their head coach to that standard, which

1230
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 2: is insane. But it also completely ignores the context of

1231
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: how older you had to be in the past before

1232
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: you got a major job.

1233
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: Now they give it to younger guys.

1234
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley gets Oklahoma off the jump, Ryan Day gets

1235
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: Ohio State off the jump. Dan Lanning Kirby smart Oregon Georgia.

1236
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 2: They didn't have to work their way up. None of

1237
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: them were the head coach at Toledo and then go

1238
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 2: you know, lower level P four. They get some of

1239
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,919
Speaker 2: the best jobs in the country right out of the gate. Well,

1240
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: that's great news for them, But here's the bad news.

1241
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: You don't get to shortcut your way to learning the

1242
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: lessons that a Nick Saban did at Toledo or Urban,

1243
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: at Bowling Green or wherever. Those guys coach like you

1244
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 2: still got to learn on the fly. So Landing and

1245
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 2: Oregon just got pants out in.

1246
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: The Rose Bowl a few days ago. It's unavoidable. They

1247
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: probably got badly out coached.

1248
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: It's unavoidable like that, stuff's gotta happen. You can't microwave

1249
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: your way to being the best coach in the country.

1250
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 2: So I know I sound preachier whatever. It's not that

1251
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: I actually don't have a problem with the question the

1252
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 2: way it was asked.

1253
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: I have a.

1254
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: Problem in the immediate aftermath of a blowout loss like that.

1255
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm a believer You're not ever really as far away

1256
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 2: as a program as those kinds of scores make it

1257
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: seem like you are.

1258
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: But also, even if you are, what have you.

1259
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 2: Proven You're taking a back seat to an Ohio State

1260
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: program that's been one of the standards in college football. Like,

1261
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is, it's not the biggest crime in

1262
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: the world to be trailing behind Ohio State as a

1263
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: thirty eight year old head coach a few years in

1264
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 2: at your first job, great resources at Oregon.

1265
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm not making an excuse for them. I'm not doing

1266
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: anything like that.

1267
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: I am saying, if you're ownly a top five program

1268
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 2: right now in year what is the two or three

1269
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: for landing, it's not the worst spot to be in

1270
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: the world. So maybe you're right, maybe they're not ready

1271
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 2: to seize the.

1272
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: Top dog spot yet.

1273
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: Check back three years from now, five years from now,

1274
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: check back ten years from now. Maybe he's not even

1275
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: coaching in ten years. Maybe Oregon's won three national championships

1276
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: by then.

1277
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: Who knows.

1278
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:29,680
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1279
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1284
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1285
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1286
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,240
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1289
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Speaker 2: and probably the best tradition that we have this time

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Speaker 2: of year is Colin. Actually you can include all this

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Speaker 2: in the clip. It's time to talk about some busted

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Speaker 2: bold predictions.

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Speaker 1: This time of year.

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Speaker 2: My self esteem fairly routinely busted because all we focus

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Speaker 2: on is the predictions we got wrong. And so it

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Speaker 2: helps me to go back from time and look at

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Speaker 2: all the predictions you gave me because I asked you

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Speaker 2: for them in August. Which of your predictions crashed and burned?

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Speaker 2: This is a very positively negative segment that we do.

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Speaker 2: It's all in good fun. But like, for example, let's

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Speaker 2: take a look at the first one. Fortunately I didn't

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Speaker 2: make any of these predictions. I just put a boldness

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Speaker 2: rating on them, like this one prediction, no new Big

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Speaker 2: Ten team, no new SEC team makes the playoff. I

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Speaker 2: put a nine point seventy five on this back in

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Speaker 2: May when we got it, because it was psychotic and

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Speaker 2: it did not hit. Texas and Oregon had top five

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Speaker 2: playoff odds. Both of them, of course, made it so

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Speaker 2: we had a new team from each league make it.

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Speaker 1: Usc was in this.

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Speaker 2: They could have done something, but they didn't. Oklahoma was

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Speaker 2: in this. They never were close to do anything. But

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Speaker 2: the point is there were just too many viable teams

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Speaker 2: for me to believe none of them were going to

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Speaker 2: make a twelve team playoff, so that one crashed and

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Speaker 2: burned and it was never even in doubt. There was

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Speaker 2: never a world where both Texas and oregan We're gonna

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Speaker 2: miss the playoff. Next up, Zach hit us in a

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Speaker 2: friend of the program. By the way, Zach Poff hit

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Speaker 2: us and said, Arizona. I didn't know. He said, runs

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Speaker 2: at the table. Arizona runs the table and wins the

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Speaker 2: Big Twelve. Noah Fafida wins the Heisman at plus three

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Speaker 2: thousand odds. Man the Big Twelve champion came from the

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Speaker 2: state of Arizona and to still whift so Famously, Kenny

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Speaker 2: Dillingham and Arizona State won the Big Twelve. Arizona was

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Speaker 2: in the odds in the preseason. Brent and Brennan came

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Speaker 2: in there, tried to do whatever he could in year one.

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Speaker 2: It did not work, it did not take off. Arizona

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Speaker 2: State actually ended up doing these. Now, no one from

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Speaker 2: the state of Arizona was gonna win the Heisman, but

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Speaker 2: I put a nine point five on that, And the

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Speaker 2: only reason it wasn't higher is because it's the Big

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Speaker 2: Twelve and anything can happen in the Big Twelve, but

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Speaker 2: not that. So next up, Evan out of Brooklyn, New York.

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Speaker 2: You just picked the wrong year.

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Speaker 1: Evan.

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Speaker 2: He said, Georgia will play Oregon for the national championship.

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Speaker 2: You just picked the wrong year because if this were

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Speaker 2: State wouldn't have even been in the thing, which goes

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Speaker 2: back to the whole Cinderella concept. The only thing that

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Speaker 2: you're doing when you expand the playoff field is you're

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Speaker 2: giving teams like Ohio State another shot.

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Speaker 1: And guess what's gonna happen?

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Speaker 2: An Ohio State team that couldn't get out of its

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Speaker 2: steamroller in the playoff. We'll, you know what, good for

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Speaker 2: us for giving Ohio State a third shot. What wasn't

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Speaker 2: gonna happen, as it turns out, was Oregon or Georgia

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Speaker 2: end up playing for a national title cause they both

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Speaker 2: went one and done. Injuries were a big factor here.

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Speaker 2: Carson Beck out, you know, Evan Stewart out, Jordan James

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Speaker 2: out for Oregon. That was a nine point five even

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Speaker 1: And lastly, Joe from Norton.

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Speaker 2: Hugh, I'm not eve gonna try that accent Nottingham in

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Speaker 2: Joe hit me and said, no one conference has more

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Speaker 2: than three total teams in the playoff. You were close, Joe,

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Speaker 2: but here's what you needed. You needed notre Dame to

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Speaker 2: get in, which they did. You needed two ACC teams,

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Speaker 2: which you got, but you needed like two Big twelve

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Speaker 2: teams or two G five teams, and that did not happen.

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Speaker 2: And as a result, Big ten actually got four. So

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Speaker 2: the Big ten got Penn State, Ohio, State, Indiana, Oregon.

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Speaker 2: I only put an eight point seventy five on that

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Speaker 2: on the boldness scale, like could have seen it, Joe,

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Speaker 2: I don't think you were. You were just totally fishing

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Speaker 2: in the dark, as we say here in the States. Well,

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Speaker 2: those of us who were familiar with the eighties country

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Speaker 2: was an eight point seventy five, not terrible. The rest

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Speaker 2: of these were nine point fives or higher. There is

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Speaker 2: make a prediction that is nine point five or Boulder

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Speaker 2: and it hits Jesse. We still have like one or

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Speaker 2: two in play right that we're still waiting on some

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Speaker 2: things to play out, like three or four, oh Man,

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Speaker 2: two have hit. We have to mail out to Chalai.

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Speaker 2: I'll reveal which ones those were at a later date.

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Speaker 2: We are people of our word here. Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 2: So much for director Colin and producer Jesse. We are

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Speaker 2: going to be in Fort Lauderdale for the Tuesday show,

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Speaker 2: same show, just different setup, and then we will be

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Speaker 2: at the Orange Bowl Thursday, and we will not have

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Speaker 2: traffic this week. So I will immediately react to both

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Speaker 2: games when they happen, but we will have a Tuesday show.

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Speaker 2: I may do one of those random mail bag type

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Speaker 2: podcasts for Thursday. Stand by on that, but we'll have

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday show as usual. We'll have a Sunday show

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Speaker 2: as usual, and then in between that on the YouTube

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Speaker 2: channel and in the podcast view, we will have reactions

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Speaker 2: of the playoff games.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry, got you covered. It's just a weird time

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Speaker 1: of year and it's really tough to do our broadcast schedule.

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Speaker 1: As a morman would be all right. Got through the

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Speaker 2: Congratulations Jesse, Congratulations game direct Colin, Producer Jesse.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Bay. Take care, see you Tuesday.

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