Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart radio podcast Okay.
Speaker 1: Ariana Grande leaving spotlight after tour amid health scrutiny. A
Speaker 1: representative for Ariana Grande has said the singer will pull
Speaker 1: back from public appearances once she finishes the Eternal Sunshine Tour.
Speaker 1: The announcement follows weeks of renewed online discussion about Grande's
Speaker 1: physical appearance after the release of her new Pedal music video.
Speaker 1: Fans and commenters debated whether concern over her health was
Speaker 1: appropriate or whether it crossed into invasive body commentary. Someone
Speaker 1: commented saying, this poor woman is possibly dying right in
Speaker 1: front of us. This outfit is designed to accentuate the
Speaker 1: thinness for.
Speaker 2: Discourse.
Speaker 1: Her team are thoroughly irresponsible for not guiding her away
Speaker 1: from this deeply damaging image for her young fans to
Speaker 1: see so glamorized. Her comments reignited debate over whether public
Speaker 1: concern can ever be appropriate when discussing a celebrity's appearance,
Speaker 1: or whether any speculation about someone's health based on how
Speaker 1: they look crosses a line. We have a lot of
Speaker 1: thoughts about kind of all of this, Like I understand
Speaker 1: why people are talking about it. But I also just
Speaker 1: don't like when people talk about women's bodies.
Speaker 2: I know I felt the same. I was actually Auther's may.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this all morning because you know,
Speaker 1: on one hand, it really there's Arianna is arguably has
Speaker 1: such a little girl following. I mean, she was Glinda
Speaker 1: for Pete's sake, so there's so many little girls looking
Speaker 1: up to her and watching what she's doing. She also
Speaker 1: is thirty four plus thirty nine or thirty five, so
Speaker 1: we know that, like there's a side of Ariana that
Speaker 1: is not age appropriate for some of these young ones.
Speaker 1: But when you have so many little girls watching everything
Speaker 1: you're doing, there's such an added layer of pressure too
Speaker 1: to show up differently. I think I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: she should. I'm just saying, you know, like the Taylor
Speaker 1: Swifts of the world, like when your fan base is
Speaker 1: so predominminently young, I think it is important to have
Speaker 1: to keep that at the top of mind. You know,
Speaker 1: we know how weight can be for me, Like whenever
Speaker 1: I've been at my skinniest is because I'm at my
Speaker 1: most dressed.
Speaker 2: Yeap for me, That's how I like.
Speaker 1: Some people eat more, I eat less, same and I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, like in the divorce, like you guys are
Speaker 1: like force feeding me down my food, you know, because
Speaker 1: I don't want. And again so I think it's I
Speaker 1: look at it and I'm just it makes me sad
Speaker 1: because I want because she's obviously going through something. So
Speaker 1: that's where I'm like to add more comments and like
Speaker 1: again basically what we're doing talking about it, like it
Speaker 1: adds to the noise of things. And that's and I
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying about, like she's got young fans
Speaker 1: and all of that, but I just wish there was
Speaker 1: love instead of look at her, you know, like she knows.
Speaker 2: I'm she knows. I'm sure she probably knows, you know.
Speaker 1: But then I've also and I'm not defending, but like
Speaker 1: I've also seen videos where she looks really strong in
Speaker 1: some videos too, like there's a good amount of muscle
Speaker 1: in some of the things I saw the most recent
Speaker 1: she does look extra extra little and I do. I
Speaker 1: had to remind myself too, like what does her schedule
Speaker 1: even look like? Imagine right, like you know, on the road, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's grueling and if you're trying to maintain I mean
Speaker 1: there's days listen, I'm no one. I'm just running kids
Speaker 1: around the county, and there's days where I forget to eat. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I'm not saying that's
Speaker 1: what's happening here that she's not eating. I'm just going
Speaker 1: when work and life and kids in our situation get
Speaker 1: so busy, there's days where I don't eat, and then
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, why do I feel like garbage or
Speaker 1: why do I feel so low? And then I sit
Speaker 1: and have like two minutes to myself, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can handle the world. So imagine if you're touring.
Speaker 1: You just came off of She came off of two movies,
Speaker 1: an album release, a concert tour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think about it with again, in the
Speaker 1: social media age of things, if I'm I mean, just
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, people thought I was pregnant.
Speaker 1: Why I hadn't maybe the things that I was wearing,
Speaker 1: or maybe I looked like I had a bump in something,
Speaker 1: or But also a couple months before that they all
Speaker 1: said I was too skinny and whatever. Now, granted I was,
Speaker 1: I actually was going through something that I needed. I
Speaker 1: just to kind of to your point, I was stressed
Speaker 1: I wasn't eating well and I did. I lost a
Speaker 1: little bit too much weight. I acknowledged it, saw it
Speaker 1: and changed my diet. Yeah, forced myself to kind of
Speaker 1: like make my stomach, you know, and now I'm like
Speaker 1: back to my normal weight. But people can look at
Speaker 1: and then go, oh, she's not now she's fat or
Speaker 1: like I'm not saying that that's what they were saying,
Speaker 1: but like just how people just that's their first thing.
Speaker 1: Like I'm sometimes even afraid to post the bikini photo
Speaker 1: on the lake because people will make comments or compare
Speaker 1: and it's like that's just that's the world. That it
Speaker 1: makes me sad too, the compairing of all of like that, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I might look like I've got a six pack in
Speaker 1: that photo, but not always, you know, or I don't know,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it doesn't make you any less attractive
Speaker 1: because you don't or I'm just like I'm like, I
Speaker 1: just don't like when people and I think we grew
Speaker 1: up in the society of you know, the nine O,
Speaker 1: two and o days and you know, our friend Shane,
Speaker 1: like you know, they're all saying, how annarexic? She was
Speaker 1: well again, she was so stressed and it's like growing
Speaker 1: up by TV and like yeah, and it's just I mean,
Speaker 1: I remember being on One Tree Hill and the creator
Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in a bron panty and the Creator going, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: can you like suck like your bellies coming out? So
Speaker 1: immediately my brain I'm like, oh, I'm too fat for this,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And like he was making
Speaker 1: comments about my weight, and I was like, I wasn't
Speaker 1: super skinny, but I wasn't at s and a big
Speaker 1: person though, but I'm just saying, like, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like it's like even in that, it's like
Speaker 1: we have enough. I just we have enough to stress
Speaker 1: and worry about that the last thing we need. And
Speaker 1: the sad thing is is that it's ninety nine percent
Speaker 1: I think women that come in on the comments I know,
Speaker 1: and that makes me wonder, like what's going on in
Speaker 1: your own world? Like I don't see her and feel
Speaker 1: like I have an opinion about her weight. Honestly, she's
Speaker 1: just so talented that in our house she kind of
Speaker 1: like just reiins, you know, like Presston's obsessed with her
Speaker 1: voice love is you know, So I don't look at
Speaker 1: her that way. But then I do remember, like I
Speaker 1: remember in college gaining you know weight. Listen, it was
Speaker 1: a diet of like taco bell and beer and ramen
Speaker 1: noodles and anything I could get from the serving jobs,
Speaker 1: right because we're broke and we're just trying to survive.
Speaker 1: But I remember I gained for me was a pretty
Speaker 1: significant amount. And one of the guys that I liked
Speaker 1: made a comment, made a couple of comments to friends
Speaker 1: of mine, got back to me, and I remember it
Speaker 1: sent me into a spiral and then into an eating disorder,
Speaker 1: which I'm not proud of. And I also am not
Speaker 1: proud of the fact that one person had that much control.
Speaker 1: But for me, even still this is hard to admit.
Speaker 1: But even still at forty four, there is an element
Speaker 1: of control that I still gain from being in charge
Speaker 1: of what I eat. So like my scale control, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I stopped really weighing myself. Yeah, and I'm not proud
Speaker 1: of that forty four. Like you know, there's even videos
Speaker 1: on here, like I don't think it's a time where
Speaker 1: we were raised though too oh so inundated. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean hydroxy cut and yeah, you know, I mean reading
Speaker 1: glamour like how to Slim and whatever. I mean that's
Speaker 1: what we're reading me. Yeah, and we didn't even have
Speaker 1: GLP ones to go, you know, like the quick fix
Speaker 1: in a back door of some weird little non doctor
Speaker 1: and and the celebrity Like we are so celebrities are
Speaker 1: so accessible to us now that we I mean, I
Speaker 1: can get to know what anybody eats on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: which is But also we're so I'm not saying we
Speaker 1: like a celebrity, but like celebrities are so accessible that
Speaker 1: we as a society can easily reach out to them,
Speaker 1: like we couldn't know as much as I wanted to.
Speaker 2: Back in the day, reach out to JTT Are you kidding?
Speaker 1: And even though I wrote him a letter when I
Speaker 1: was thirteen, but still like we can you imagine? I
Speaker 1: just A'm like, now people can just go on and
Speaker 1: just comment hate, it's just wild to me. And then
Speaker 1: I know, but I will say, but also love, like
Speaker 1: I love so many of my conversations that I have too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and a lot of times I'm always like I always
Speaker 1: end it with thank you for being so kind. Yeah. Same,
Speaker 1: Especially recently, I had a few that have DMed and
Speaker 1: been like, you know, I had a vulnerability hangover after
Speaker 1: my Oprah comment, well, and then I just don't know
Speaker 1: what I was thinking.
Speaker 2: I said it out loud.
Speaker 1: It was like what, yeah, I did, sure, And then
Speaker 1: a couple of people wrote to me and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm just so grateful, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: But I do.
Speaker 1: I I had a very I will say this, one
Speaker 1: of my my very best friend, don't be offended, when
Speaker 1: in high school had a really bad eating disorder like
Speaker 1: super innarexic and and there is I remember her idolizing
Speaker 1: and we didn't even.
Speaker 2: Have the accessibility, so that's what's wild.
Speaker 1: But like I remember her going down to like she
Speaker 1: had to shop in almost like super junior department, like
Speaker 1: it was sick, sick, like she was not well. And
Speaker 1: so I don't want to also, I don't want to
Speaker 1: also normalize the body figure of that either, because I
Speaker 1: just don't think that's good for everybody watching. And I
Speaker 1: don't want to misspeak and get myself a bunch of hate.
Speaker 1: I just I want everyone really healthy and I want
Speaker 1: them nourished, and if if that is what's happening there,
Speaker 1: then that's great. I just it just is she's just
Speaker 1: she's also not a big human. Arianna is not a
Speaker 1: big human. Yeah, she's a tiny joncher. Yeah, she's not
Speaker 1: like a I mean you I have to think too.
Speaker 1: She was on I mean playing in wicket. I mean
Speaker 1: I can't imagine the no. And they got hate then too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: her and since a lot. And when you are just
Speaker 1: inundated with hate, it's again people like me. When I'm
Speaker 1: inundated with that stuff, I don't have an appetite to eat. No,
Speaker 1: because it feels impossible. Yeah, because that's all you hear.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where you know and so and
Speaker 1: also the habits we want as moms as well, right,
Speaker 1: is something that I don't want Jolie just to see
Speaker 1: me having a bar or you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: I want to like nourish my body with like good things,
Speaker 1: which is I'm you know, I've been forcing myself to
Speaker 1: because a couple of my blood work came back that
Speaker 1: I wasn't nourishing enough. Yeah, and I'm like, okay, wake
Speaker 1: up call, Like I need to start eating better. Yeah, love,
Speaker 1: And I've been making lunch together. I usually skip lunch
Speaker 1: and just snack and then have dinner. And we've been
Speaker 1: having lunch together and I'm like, I just want I
Speaker 1: do want the healthy habits. Has she made Has Ariana
Speaker 1: made any comments about this, or she just just that
Speaker 1: she's pulling back from touring. I think her people just
Speaker 1: said that she was pulling back, but no, not that
Speaker 1: I know of. But it's just it just makes me
Speaker 1: sad because I just I get why people again will
Speaker 1: say things, but I just I wish people could be
Speaker 1: more of you don't know what's happening or what someone's
Speaker 1: going through, no, and to just offer kindness and support
Speaker 1: instead of.
Speaker 2: The hate.
Speaker 1: She is such a talented, such a profound, sweet, like
Speaker 1: just such an incredible person celebrity. I'll say, I don't
Speaker 1: know her, but we got to watch. We watched way
Speaker 1: too many behind the scenes of everything that happened with Glinda,
Speaker 1: like that was our life. We were eating, breathing, sleeping it.
Speaker 1: So I just hope she is well and I hope
Speaker 1: she's happy. I just don't want her. I don't want
Speaker 1: the world to eat her live because she's just such
Speaker 1: a talented, wonderful human And I don't think anything. I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think GLP ones has I mean,
Speaker 1: do you think it's pushed us back to the skinny culture?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. You do. Oh, I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely do. I don't think it's maybe what
Speaker 1: it was meant for, but I think it is definitely.
Speaker 1: I mean even just in I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people that were getting it not from doctors and just
Speaker 1: we're sick for forever, and I'm like, well, it's probably
Speaker 1: because your body is like not eating. I do also
Speaker 1: think it's been really beneficial, Like we have family that
Speaker 1: has gone on it with diabetes and it's changed their lives.
Speaker 2: Same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think it's you know, just like anything right,
Speaker 1: it can be used it as a gift or could
Speaker 1: not be. Alex Cooper claps back at internet trolls comment
Speaker 1: uh troll's comment about how she's handling her pregnancy. The
Speaker 1: Call Our Daddy podcast shared a post on her Instagram
Speaker 1: story in response to an Internet troll who told her
Speaker 1: not to complain about being pregnant. Added that it was
Speaker 1: her choice and that pregnancy can be hard. Pregnancy can
Speaker 1: be hard. Oh, Chris, tell me about your pregnancy. I
Speaker 1: would love to hear bib, she wrote over a screenshot
Speaker 1: of the DM. She just wanted to share all the
Speaker 1: dms I get like this from men lol. Last week,
Speaker 1: Alex was also revealed she was diagnosed with gestational gestational
Speaker 1: diabetes and said, when I got this diagnosis, the first
Speaker 1: couple of days, I was really hard on myself and
Speaker 1: it felt very isolating. As much as my family and
Speaker 1: husband everyone was there for me, I felt like it's
Speaker 1: me on an island. The diagnosis was so upsetting, I
Speaker 1: think because during pregnancy there's also there was already so
Speaker 1: much emotionally that you're going through. And I even saw
Speaker 1: like on her because I follow her, I think she's great.
Speaker 1: People were like, it's no big deal. People get all
Speaker 1: the time. Yes, yes, and your first pregnancy, like everything
Speaker 1: feels so much. Yeah, Like even on the last one,
Speaker 1: it was so heightened, you know, because of my age
Speaker 1: and all the things that were going on. Well, and
Speaker 1: there's like, you know, you're dealing hormonally emotions, but also
Speaker 1: cravings are crazy, and when you can't go eat what
Speaker 1: you want to eat or you're trying to pay attention
Speaker 1: to all of that, that's just another added layer too.
Speaker 1: And you're also in charge of someone else's life, so
Speaker 1: it's like you're not just making these choices you're making,
Speaker 1: you're trying to make the best choice for your body
Speaker 1: and for another body. It's a lot, and I didn't.
Speaker 1: I've never had that with all three. I was always
Speaker 1: so that drink, remember the drink woo. Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: are we giving women? I mean, I know it's really
Speaker 1: hard for me, but I can't. I'm I mean again,
Speaker 1: the scrutiny, I just can't even imagine. I will say this, though,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to be very careful how I say it.
Speaker 2: I and I don't know the complaint complaint that she had.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I will say this, Never have I ever complained about
Speaker 1: anything that had to do with pregnancy.
Speaker 2: Never have you ever had to complain? Oh?
Speaker 1: Really, I never complained about pregnancy one time. I think
Speaker 1: because I worked in the women's space so intimately, and
Speaker 1: I've been in the rooms where babies are born with
Speaker 1: no cry, and how women have lost at thirty eight
Speaker 1: weeks or thirty weeks. And for me specifically, like I
Speaker 1: had one of my best girlfriends couldn't get pregnant. They
Speaker 1: did several rounds of IVF and ended up using her
Speaker 1: sister as a sarrogate. Like I think, for me specifically,
Speaker 1: I and this is not me. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: say I'm better than or any My perspective on pregnancy
Speaker 1: was so that if I knew a girl that would
Speaker 1: pay a million dollars to feel what it would feel
Speaker 1: like to be miserable.
Speaker 2: You know, those those days where everything's aching or you
Speaker 2: can't go to sleep or like.
Speaker 1: That. There's some women that would give anything to know
Speaker 1: that feeling. And so that's just always what I kept
Speaker 1: at the top of my brain. So I didn't ever complain.
Speaker 1: I also get it, and also some of it is
Speaker 1: just funny, like there are things that you can say
Speaker 1: that are I mean, I definitely complained about having hyperemesis
Speaker 1: because that miserable.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I heard morning sickness as you had. Like
Speaker 1: what I thought morning sickness was was you had it
Speaker 1: in the morning and it ended around twelve weeks.
Speaker 2: No, mine never ended. I mean mine did not end.
Speaker 1: UPS was with Roman and I think it ended around
Speaker 1: like eighteen but even still I was still kind of nauseous.
Speaker 1: Jace was the entire time, Jolie was the entire time.
Speaker 1: I was the entire time with Lione. I felt hungover
Speaker 1: every day. All I wanted was like a cheese sand
Speaker 1: I mean, it was horrendous. Yeah. I mean I remember
Speaker 1: waking up in the middle as I complain about being pregnant,
Speaker 1: but I remember just being like, okay, I.
Speaker 2: Can't, I can do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like in the middle of the night. It was
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and I could not stop dry heating.
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't stop.
Speaker 1: So I rolled over and was like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go to the hospital and he's like, okay, so that's
Speaker 1: the only way was to get an iv YEP to
Speaker 1: stop dry heating.
Speaker 2: I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I gosh, I and now look
Speaker 1: at my sweet little Jace. But I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: definitely complained about that, and I think it's okay if
Speaker 1: you do, it's a complaint. You're just mentioning. Like that's
Speaker 1: where I'm also like, it's not like you're I can't.
Speaker 2: I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't think she was complaining. That's what my that's
Speaker 1: where And I don't think she was complaining. She's just
Speaker 1: like this, this is an island. Yeah. I felt like
Speaker 1: I'm an island and this is what this is what
Speaker 1: I have, and this bums me out. Yeah, So I
Speaker 1: was so bummed that I had a hemorrhage with Roman
Speaker 1: and that I had a big old ass vibroid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay to be bummed and scared and all the
Speaker 1: things like yeah, it's a scary for difference, like just
Speaker 1: to note it is. Yeah, Like if you're miserable every day,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, I think again, I do want to say
Speaker 1: I was nauseous every day, and there was points where
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, but I'm saying like if someone
Speaker 1: complained all the time, yes, and I met, but like
Speaker 1: that's we know she's doing that at all people. She's
Speaker 1: just bringing people along on her pregnancy, which is her platform.
Speaker 1: By the way, if she didn't, that would be weird.
Speaker 1: And I think it's I I always assumed that maybe
Speaker 1: that happened if you already had die, like I didn't
Speaker 1: know much about it, but like she's showing people that,
Speaker 1: like anybody can get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right.
Speaker 1: Awareness Yeah, yeah, So I think it's great that she's
Speaker 1: sharing all of that stuff. And I'd feel the same way.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, WHOA, what did I do wrong?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, I also like I couldn't lay down when I
Speaker 1: was pregnant with Legend. He was on some sort of
Speaker 1: nerve and I have scoliosis and rods in my back,
Speaker 1: so it was like a whole thing. And I remember
Speaker 1: every single night, oh for hours, I would have to
Speaker 1: walk the house until I had exhausted my body to
Speaker 1: the point where like it would lay down and just
Speaker 1: crash out to sleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But also I was like, Okay, the gift and
Speaker 2: pregnancy is that you know that there's an end to
Speaker 2: it and you get the biggest grand prize at the end. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so do we do what we do?
Speaker 1: That's right, Well, we get to end on a good
Speaker 1: news headline. Six year old boy with heart condition runs
Speaker 1: for touchdown after Panthers signed him to make football dreams
Speaker 1: come true. Asher Harvey's biggest dream came true when the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers signed him for one day, during which he
Speaker 1: scored his first touchdown in an NFL stadium. The six
Speaker 1: year old boy, who was born with a heart anomaly
Speaker 1: that will ultimately require a transplant, signed with the NFL
Speaker 1: team for just one day before being welcomed into the
Speaker 1: locker room by some of the biggest heroes, including Bryce
Speaker 1: Young and Kenny Pickett. Attending the quarterback meeting and scoring
Speaker 1: his first touchdown in an NFL stadium. Growing up as
Speaker 1: a Panthers fan, Asher immediately knew that he wanted to
Speaker 1: use his Make a Wish request to attend one of
Speaker 1: the team's games. Little did he know he was going
Speaker 1: to have the opportunity to put on his own helmet
Speaker 1: and gloves, lead the team through the tunnel and onto
Speaker 1: the field, and score the final touchdown.
Speaker 2: A fan fest.
Speaker 1: After the exciting moment, the team gathered on the field
Speaker 1: and cheered as linebacker Jalen Phillips lifted Asher up above
Speaker 1: the crowd to soak in the moment before he went
Speaker 1: on to an adorable victory dance on the field.
Speaker 2: Buddy, can you imagine?
Speaker 1: And that's where again I go, Okay, this sweet six
Speaker 1: year old little boy. You know how lucky we are
Speaker 1: to have our healthy kids, and every day I'm just like,
Speaker 1: please keep you know, our kids healthy. And the fact
Speaker 1: that you know, the sweet boy got to have a
Speaker 1: dream come true moment like that, and and the access
Speaker 1: to celebrities. Yes, right, So there's some good to all
Speaker 1: of it. There is no sweet man happy touchdown until
Speaker 1: next week until we'll see that's what's in the headlines.
Speaker 1: Just bracing for himpact over what I've said today headline
Speaker 1: episodes always do it to me.
Speaker 2: He love you, Creamer. Bye, girl Bye,