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Speaker 2: Chris Jenna, Welcome to on Purpose.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be here. My kids have come

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Speaker 1: you know, we love you dearly. I'm such a huge fan.

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Speaker 1: Love listening to the podcast, love listening to anytime I

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Speaker 1: get the opportunity to see you online giving a motivational

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Speaker 1: speech or you know, different things that you do. It's

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Speaker 1: so inspirational to me, and I know how much my

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Speaker 2: Well, as I was saying, Chris, you and your family

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Speaker 2: have been so gracious and kind to me from day one.

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Speaker 2: I am remember the early days of Chloe sharing something

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Speaker 2: has just been amazing over the last couple of years

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Speaker 2: And whenever I see you, whether it's at a party

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Speaker 2: it means the world.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you for having me. It really means

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Speaker 1: And in a world where everybody's torn apart, especially in

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Well, I want to get to know the

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Speaker 2: Chris oh boy that I believe we forget existed because

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Speaker 2: today we live in a world where we're so preoccupied

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Speaker 1: Growing up, I just I was really raised by my

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Speaker 1: My grandmother was an accountant and then later opened a

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Speaker 2: Do you still wrap Christmas presents? Presents every all day?

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Speaker 1: I wrapped one this morning before I came here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't do a bow because it was a different

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Speaker 2: You were making me think about. There's a meditation practice

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think somebody of my age has

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Speaker 1: what a different world, but yet such progress, such amazing.

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00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: The world we live in is wild and amazing. I

437
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: mean when I was a young girl, a little girl,

438
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: I used to watch the Jetsons kind of remember that,

439
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: and it was sort of intimating that by the year

440
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, we would be flying in cars around the city.

441
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: You know, we wouldn't even have cars that were on

442
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: the road anymore. And so you know, we're almost there. Yeah, almost,

443
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: but it you know, we used to imagine this modern

444
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: world and here we are. So it's very exciting. But

445
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 1: you never know what's going to happen next. I mean,

446
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: I worry a little bit. I worry a lot about

447
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: my grandchildren and social media. That scares me a bit

448
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: because it can be so dark, and I really want

449
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: them to have the best parts of anything. I mean,

450
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: in life, there's good and bad, but in this case,

451
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, I worry about that. I just want them

452
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: to and I think their moms, you know, all my

453
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: kids are really responsible about trying to control screen time

454
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: and all of that. But it's different, it's a different place. Yeah,

455
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot of noise.

456
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. You're approaching your seventieth birthday. Yeah, just so exciting.

457
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

458
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: And what an incredible molestone. What's this chapter of your

459
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: life called? If you can name it, what would it

460
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 2: be called?

461
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness, the best, the best chapter. I'm happy

462
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: to be here and to really have this beautiful family

463
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: and just enjoy the ride because, like I said, just

464
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: to be present at this time and place. I did

465
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: learn a lot from my family from my grandmother and

466
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: my mom, who both worked and said they were in

467
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: their eighties and I saw.

468
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: Wow, yeahble.

469
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: And my mom often says she retired when she was

470
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: eighty two, and she often says that really kept her

471
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: so purposeful. And we all want to find that life

472
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: of purpose, but for her, it gave her a great

473
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: purpose and it gave her great joy, and she was

474
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: so satisfied with the work she did every day and

475
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: got to you know, I think when somebody has structure

476
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: and has a schedule and has something to look forward

477
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: to and has something like that in their life and

478
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: feels needed and wanted, useful and useful, and that's a

479
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: very good feeling. And I think that's that's the road

480
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go down. I just want to, you know, be.

481
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 3: Never never, No.

482
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: I love what I do, and I often say this

483
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't be as easy without my entire family and doing

484
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: what we do together, because you know, there's a lot

485
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: of people out there that have, you know, a job

486
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: in entertainment or in the media or whatever it is,

487
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: and they have a big career and they do it

488
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: by themselves, and they're the only one in their family

489
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: who has that kind of a career, that kind of

490
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: a job, and I thought how lonely it would be

491
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: if there is just one of us. It would be

492
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: so hard, And so I feel super blessed that I

493
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: have this incredibly fabulous family and all this love and support,

494
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: and it makes it really a very sweet life.

495
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a special achievement to have that. How have you?

496
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: You know? One thing I've noticed spending time with all

497
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: of you and having as I said earlier, Kim, Chloe

498
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: and Kendall have all sat in this chair preparing it

499
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: for you. There's there's such a love between everyone and

500
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: the family, and of course there's the fun of the

501
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: what's the right word, the fun of the teasing each

502
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: other and the bandage. But at the core of it,

503
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: it's it's so evident that there's love and it's real

504
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: and it's and it's and it's genuine. How do you

505
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: create a family in which competition isn't a negative thing

506
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: and growth is everyone's focus, Because I think what we

507
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: see across the world is, you know, you have six children,

508
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: but it's like people may have two and then you

509
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 2: have one person who really ambitious and driven and one

510
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: person who just wants to eide away. Whereas you've got

511
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: a family of people who are all ambitious in different ways.

512
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: They all have their own fascinations, their own passions, and

513
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: they're pursuing it to the best their ability, which is

514
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: such a beautiful thing to see. How how do you

515
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: create that energy? What does that require?

516
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: I think, first of all, when they were very young,

517
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: I think they learned so much from the examples set

518
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: by their dad or just myself in different areas, their stepdad,

519
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 1: their family, their friends, and we've always had a huge

520
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: group of family friends, and I think they watch and

521
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: had great examples set before them. But I think that

522
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: one of my biggest and strongest desires in my path

523
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: to the success that they've had is just really helping

524
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: them along the way identify what was really important to them.

525
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 1: And they were passionate about and we threw a lot

526
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: of spaghetti at the wall. Believe me, it was crazy.

527
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: But when they finally found their destiny, their passion, the

528
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: opportunities that came their way that they wanted to embrace

529
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: and were so happy about, you just feel when something's right,

530
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: and that makes me really happy. Every time I felt

531
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: like somebody found their their their thing, you know, their

532
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: their passion was was that strong that they were able

533
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: to really make this something they wanted to focus on.

534
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: And the determination, the energy they put into it, their

535
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: work ethic is second to none. And they would get

536
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: up with this you know passion every day, you know,

537
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: getting up at five and you know, getting into the

538
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: gym and taking care of their health and their well

539
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: being and then at the same time having kids, raising children,

540
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: getting to work. You know, it's just they all have

541
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: such focus and determination, but they also have great structure.

542
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: They're organized, and then they learn how to find their

543
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: peace at the same time, which I think is really important.

544
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that Courtney's really good at that,

545
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: and she's taught the rest of us, you know, like

546
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: wait a second, you know there's you've got to you know,

547
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: find the peace and all of it too and protect

548
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: your soul. Yeah, you know, so that's been really really important.

549
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: I think it's just working together, encouraging one another, and

550
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: when someone is successful, we're all so excited for that

551
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: person's success, no matter how it comes. And it could

552
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: be the smallest little you know, not everything moves a needle,

553
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: and it can be the smallest little wind and we

554
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: get really happy for each other. Like last night when

555
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: I was blonde. All of my kids this morning were screaming, Mom,

556
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: and then Kim goes, did you dye your hair? And

557
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: I said, yes, of course I didn't dye my hair,

558
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: but I had her going for a while.

559
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. We were trying to figure out this morning when

560
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: they were going to get blonde hair of that care.

561
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

562
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: So it's fun to work together. It's fun to you know,

563
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: go through challenges together. It's awful to go through really

564
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: bad times together, but we're together, so it's important, and

565
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: it's you know, when we get to celebrate each other

566
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: over the smallest things or the biggest things. I think

567
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: the kids are just happy for each other and there

568
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: really isn't any jealousy, which makes me really proud, you know.

569
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: And they're very vocal and loud when something bugs them

570
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: or when something needs to be said. Don't you worry.

571
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: They're there, my loudest voice at times in my head.

572
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: But we all I think we're just all happy for

573
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: one another, and we know we're doing this together. And

574
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: somebody's success in my family is sort of a halo effect.

575
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: I feel like it is good for everyone, and you know,

576
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: especially business wise, but it's just really good for all

577
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: of us personally because we get to see each other

578
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: grow and thrive and evolve and elevate different things, like

579
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: we'll get notes to each other. Okay, well this was great,

580
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: but if you only did this, it would be so

581
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: much better. So everybody you know is a backseat driver, yeah,

582
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: or what do you call it? Sideline quarterback? Yeah, everybody's

583
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: weighing in on everybody else's stuff. So it's fun. It

584
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: makes it a we're our own little you know we

585
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: have I have thirteen grandchildren. Imagine that's a lot of humans,

586
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: and we have an amazing little, you know bubble that

587
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: we live in and that we are so dedicated to

588
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: one another and very loyal and looking for that piece

589
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 1: that we can surround ourselves with when we can with

590
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: family time.

591
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wanted to acknowledge how how hard it

592
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: is to do that.

593
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: It's it's hard.

594
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: It's so hard to be able to create a non competitive,

595
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: non envious, non jealous family space system. I think it's

596
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: it's not easy. Yeah, whether it's happened naturally because of

597
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: all these great values, or whether it's happened through hardship,

598
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: it's probably the most significant achievement that one could ever

599
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: have is it's lovely.

600
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: It really is lovely, and I'm so proud of them

601
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: for being there. And if somebody gets into trouble or

602
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 1: somebody you know needs help with anything, everyone is right

603
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: there to jump in and make it okay. And it's

604
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: it's interesting that you know, they're very, very loyal and

605
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: very protective, and they surround each other with a lot

606
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: of love, and the fact that they're also amazing parents

607
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: is the biggest gift. I watch them as my son

608
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: has a daughter, and everyone except for Kendalls, you know,

609
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 1: has a son or a daughter or both, and they're

610
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: amazing parents. And I often sit and tell them. I'll

611
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: sit and watch Kylie or Chloe, all of them, Kim

612
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: Rob Courtney, but I watch them with their kids and

613
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: I just take it all in and I say, God,

614
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: I wish I would have been this good as a

615
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: parent with you, because I feel like they take it

616
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: to another level. I've never seen anything so amazing, literally

617
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: in my life. I talk to my mom about it

618
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: all the time. I go, can you believe the way

619
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: they do this and that and the other, And my

620
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: mom and I are in awe of what great parents

621
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: they are, and I think they are. You know, people

622
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: ask me all the time, how do we keep our

623
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: kids as close or how do I? And I think

624
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: it's just the time you spend and what you focus

625
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: on and the way that you, you know, spend time with

626
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: your kids and and show them that you're never going

627
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: to you know, I didn't have kids to on their

628
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: eighteenth birthday kick them out of the house. My girlfriend

629
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: used to say, you're too nice. You know, you're not

630
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: their friend, you're their mother. And I looked at her

631
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: and I said, oh, no, I'm their friend because they're

632
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: going to be eighteen one day and I'm not going

633
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: to be left out of this big, beautiful life that

634
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: you know that I want to have with them.

635
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: How do you love someone that you don't agree with?

636
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 2: How do you love someone that you have got something

637
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: with that didn't work out? And by the way, I'm

638
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: saying this because I've had private conversations with you where

639
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: you've talked to me about these things and I'm r

640
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: gown away by it. Right, So I'm like, how do

641
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: you love someone even when something hasn't worked out the

642
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: way you wanted to? Right? Because I know it's deep

643
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: for you. That's what I'm asking.

644
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you start with communication, and I think

645
00:36:50,960 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: that's where you have to start to really feel and understand. Cry.

646
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 5: Sorry, I don't know why I'm emotional about this, but

647
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 5: I think you just have to understand where somebody's coming from. Sorry, Jay, Okay,

648
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 5: is there a tissue you guys? I don't know why

649
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 5: that hits so hard, But I think communication, I think

650
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 5: compassion is key into really feeling what somebody might be

651
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 5: going through, even though you don't agree with them. If

652
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 5: you once love them, then love is love, you know.

653
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 5: And I always fall in love with people, and then

654
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 5: if they disappoint you it Sorry, I don't know why

655
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 5: I'm crying. See what I said, It's right there under

656
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 5: the surface. Sometimes you just get me. But I think

657
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 5: communication is I pre communication, And I think if if

658
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 5: somebody's misunderstood, I get on a soapbox sometimes to try

659
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 5: to say no, no, no, you just don't understand. You know,

660
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 5: this didn't happen like this and they really didn't mean

661
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 5: it like this, or you know. I'm always the one

662
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 5: who tries and communicates that.

663
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: But I think, God, what's wrong with me? But I

664
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: also think that compassion. If you don't have an open

665
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: heart and you're stuck with trying to understand someone, you

666
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: will be lost forever until you can try and see

667
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: and forgive. And I think if people can't come from

668
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: a place of forgiveness, then they'll be stuck forever. You know,

669
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: you have to be open to understanding what's someone else

670
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: is truly all about. And why I stand up for

671
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: people who are the underdog. At times it makes me

672
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: really sad that they're the underdog. And I feel like

673
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: some people get really misunderstood, and I think that we

674
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: all need to stand up for each other, especially when

675
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: we need it the most. And that comes from a conversation.

676
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: It comes from a communication, It comes from a compassion,

677
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: and it comes from forgiveness. And if you can't learn

678
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: to forgive someone, whether it's their behavior, their words, their actions,

679
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: you know, I think my kids tell me all the time,

680
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm a very forgiving person, like a mom. It's wild

681
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: You're just like this person treated you this way or

682
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: that way, or you experience this with this person, and

683
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: I try to see where it came from, what is

684
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: the root of this, why are they acting this way?

685
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: And then again, if I can't change it. I can't

686
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: control it. I can't control somebody else or their actions, right,

687
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: you can't control other people. So you know you have

688
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: to either ignore it, fight for it, help explain it,

689
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: help communicate it, and forgive it. I don't know, I

690
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: don't know how else. That's how I live my life.

691
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: And if somebody, you know, a lot of people are

692
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: struggling and there's a lot of.

693
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 2: You know, it's.

694
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 6: Sorry, you just need a second, I'm sorry, Okay. So

695
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 6: there are a lot of people out there who struggle

696
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 6: with their mental health and we don't know some times

697
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 6: with the differences because we're not inside their brain or

698
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 6: their body. So who are we to say, you know

699
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 6: that somebody's not really struggling sick, you know, having a

700
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 6: hard time, And there's so much of that and not

701
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 6: really immediate answers and help for everybody. You know, when

702
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 6: you can't figure it out, sometimes you think how does

703
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 6: everybody deal with this?

704
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: You know? So that's I don't know. I have a

705
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: lot of compassion for people that are in a family

706
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: where there's mental health issues. It makes me really sad.

707
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something definitely trying to support and help, and

708
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 2: I'm glad you need to here, because it's.

709
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: Oh, it makes me. I mean I sometimes I you know,

710
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 1: hear about people or you know, hear about what somebody's

711
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: going through and I literally don't even know them, and

712
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm in tears and it just breaks my heart because

713
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: of the situation right now that we're in, and I

714
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: think we make it worse for one another, you know,

715
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: the criticism, the negativity online and the struggle that a

716
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: lot of people have and the amount of suicide for

717
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: young people. Yeah, I mean it's truly heartbreaking, and I

718
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: hear stories and it just really is so upsetting and

719
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: that it you know, I struggle with that in my

720
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: heart because I just wish there was more that we

721
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: all could do just to love each other and be

722
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: there for each other, and maybe there was a way

723
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: that we could help in a bigger way.

724
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 7: You know.

725
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: It's very confusing.

726
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we just I literally just had the head

727
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: of suicide from Harvard on the show. Really yeah, I

728
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: just interviewed him maybe a month ago, oh wow show,

729
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: and it was so illuminating to hear just how much

730
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: help people when mental health or thoughts are even seeking.

731
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: But even in that yeah, just how like how hard

732
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 2: is and how heavy it is, and I think heavy.

733
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: So it's heavy in my heart and I don't have

734
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: an immediate you know, child or family member that's struggling

735
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: with that at the moment, and I think about it

736
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: for some reason a great deal as if you know,

737
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: maybe there's some way to There's a lot of things,

738
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: a lot of issues that I right now I'm in

739
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: the process of focusing on and getting more information on.

740
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: One of them is dementia and Alzheimer's. And that's why

741
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: I love doctor Amon so much because he's such an educator, absolutely,

742
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: but the mental health thing is very confusing to me

743
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: because it's so I don't feel like my in the

744
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: chapter I'm in in my life right now that I've

745
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: ever experienced this volume of people that are hurting and struggling,

746
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, is it probably because our communication is enhanced

747
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: with being able to see it all on the internet

748
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: and you know all of that. But it's still a lot,

749
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: and it does get very heavy and it heavy in

750
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 1: my heart. It does.

751
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: I'm not definitely offline about that to see, Yeah, you know,

752
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: it's I feel the same way. It is why I

753
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: invited Matthew Knock from Harvard and I'm so so glad

754
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: because because I couldn't agree with you more. I was

755
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: just hearing so many stories and learning of so many people.

756
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: And he told me that his friend committed suicide, even

757
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: when he knew his friend was the head of no. Yeah,

758
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: we're studying that like so, and he said, I just

759
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 2: didn't know, like we just didn't know. No one knew,

760
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 2: no one knows, no one knows.

761
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: And that's what the the tragic part of it is.

762
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: And there's been so many times when I mean even

763
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, parents of my you know, kids, friends or

764
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: you know, there's always one degree of separation, and it's

765
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: you know, every single person has something like that or

766
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 1: they know about it, they've heard about it a close

767
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: friend happened or right in their own family, and it's devastating.

768
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: I know people that have lost people close to them

769
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: and there's just no closure there for a lot of people.

770
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 1: But how they get to that place is really a struggle. Boy,

771
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: Can we talk about something happy? How did we get here?

772
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm crying, I'm hysterical, a mess. Let's talk about disney

773
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: Land or something.

774
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: Are you a disney fan?

775
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

776
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's the happiest place or not.

777
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: It is definitely is. I went last week with Courtney

778
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: our Small World, Pirates of the Caribbean and the Haunted

779
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: Mansion because they just opened it for Yeah, and I

780
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: go to Disney. I work for Disney. I want to

781
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: be white. Yeah, all of it.

782
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, I'm excited to go to the

783
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: Epic Universe and Universal. Oh yes, they just opened they

784
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: opened it with the new Harry Potter World and all

785
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: the rest.

786
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: Wait, is that Disney.

787
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: That's universe a university. This is not. It's theme park world.

788
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: That's your that's your thing.

789
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 2: Okay.

790
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: Have you been to the Star Wars ride Disneylands?

791
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 2: So good? Yeah, it's insane, it's amazing.

792
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: So oh there you go. See we have something else

793
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: in common?

794
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: We do?

795
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: We do? I am, I'm completely I've completely drank the

796
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 2: kool aid on Disney.

797
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.

798
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: Is the happiest place.

799
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 1: Every day, happiest place on earth?

800
00:46:49,080 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Yes, sir, Chris.

801
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 2: When we've spoken offline, I've always been blown away by

802
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: how you've When you keep talking about family, I think

803
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: people think, oh, yeah, they're six kids, right, But to you,

804
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: the family is even your kids' exes.

805
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, partners, Yes, people.

806
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: Like it grows. Even if one of your children has

807
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: been through something really difficult with their partner or an

808
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: ex partner, you still love them as part of the

809
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: unit and the family. I do, and that is incredible.

810
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: Talk to me about how you expand that radius of

811
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: care and love.

812
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: First of all, I believe in my heart and in

813
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: my soul love is love. And I fall in love

814
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: with people and have lives and years spent with their

815
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: partners or their boyfriends or their husbands, and have all

816
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: these memories and travels and Christmas mornings and celebrations and

817
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: birthdays and all the fun, the laughter, the joy, the tears,

818
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: the babies. These are in most cases the fathers of

819
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: my grandchildren. And I love these men, and that love

820
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: doesn't go away when we experience really challenging times with them.

821
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: It just doesn't turn off like that for me. And

822
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 1: I think that goes back to communication, compassion, forgiveness, and

823
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: moving through that so you can get to a place

824
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: where they know they can always come to me. Every

825
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: one of my kids' exes know that they have an

826
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: open door, and I think that's how I was with

827
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: my kids when they were little and I got a

828
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: divorce and I got married to Bruce, and when that happened,

829
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: Robert knew that he come walking in that back. It

830
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: took a couple of years, but it was what I

831
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: had learned from people that were in my life in

832
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: previous years. I saw the co parenting skills that other couples,

833
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: two couples in particular, But these two couples handled their

834
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: experience of how they loved their kids. It was all

835
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: about the kids. Because if you sit and berate your

836
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: partner over and over and over again to the kids

837
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: or your ex partner, your ex boyfriend, your ex husband,

838
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: you know it's their dad or it's their stepdad, or

839
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: that you can't do that. It really creates so much

840
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: damage psychologically, emotionally, physically, spiritually, all of it. The children

841
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: don't know how to process that kind of It's a grief,

842
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: it's a separation. So my goal with my children was

843
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: always their dad comes for Christmas morning, and we spend

844
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: New Year's together and birthdays and celebrations. Robert Kardashian came

845
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: to Kendall and Kylie's first birthdays and he was there

846
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: for every celebration, and they called him uncle Robert. And

847
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: he walked through that back door whenever he wanted, knowing

848
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: there would be dinner on the table at six o'clock

849
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 1: and he was always welcome. And it's the same way

850
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: I now treat all of my kids' exes, which a

851
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand because if they treated them badly,

852
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: but we've all dealt with those issues internally and privately,

853
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: and we don't need to talk about these things anymore.

854
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: It's been done, it's dealt with. We've done it, we've

855
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: talked about it. We all know what happened, you know,

856
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: we've had it on the show or whatever's happened in

857
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: our lives. Now it's time to grow the fuck up,

858
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: be mature. And I love who I've loved, and I

859
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: don't like what they've done, No I don't, but it

860
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: doesn't make the love get any less overnight. And I'm

861
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: there for them always. And these are the fathers of

862
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: my grandchildren. What would my grandkids think, you know, twenty

863
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: years from now if their grandmother treated their dad poorly

864
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: or I wasn't loving and kind and compassionate and forgiving.

865
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: So I teach my kid's forgiveness. It's one of the

866
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: biggest lessons that I can teach them to forgive somebody

867
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: who's treated you badly and.

868
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: Move on.

869
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: You may not completely forget, but you need to forgive.

870
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: You need to let it go. It's not good for

871
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: your soul. It's too much pressure on your heart, you know.

872
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,479
Speaker 1: And I do love them, and I do love who

873
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: they are, and I love their families. It's like with

874
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: Travis Scott. I'm close to Travis, and I love his

875
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: mom and his dad and his sister and his brother.

876
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: They're family to us and we share celebrations together. And

877
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: same with Tristan who comes walking in the back door

878
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: and has you know, hey, Mom, what's up? You know,

879
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm like okay. So they're always around and we embrace them.

880
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: You said that before you start something, you pray. I

881
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: do wondering what does that prayer?

882
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: It's Dear God, please you know, surround me with your

883
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: angels if I'm doing something that's dangerous, or when I

884
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: go to bed at night, and just help me to

885
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: see that what you want me to see and be

886
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: the person that I need to be today and just

887
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: help me through these difficult times. Or I come to

888
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: God in my prayers with lots of gratitude and thankfulness

889
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: for the life that I have, or just the ability

890
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: to help somebody else, because I think giving back is

891
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: so important, and my girls and I talk a lot

892
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: about that and just that we've been given so much,

893
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: and to whom much is given, you know, much is required.

894
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: And that to me is something that I was taught

895
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 1: very young. And I just pray about safety. I pray

896
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: about peace, not only in my heart but in the world.

897
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: I pray about my family constantly and their safety and

898
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: the grandkids and you know, all the things. And I

899
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: really it's important to me to calm myself before something

900
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: important and really think about it and be thoughtful about

901
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: it and be prayerful about it and then be grateful.

902
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: For it's beautiful.

903
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: That's my routine every day. But I wake up with

904
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: a prayer. Thank you for waking me up, thank you

905
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: for giving me another beautiful day, Show me how you

906
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: want me to spend my time today, and help me

907
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: through these seventy five thousand meetings and zooms I have

908
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: to do. And then thank you for protecting me tonight

909
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: when I go to sleep, and bring me some peace

910
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 1: and so I can recharge and be there for somebody else,

911
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: because if.

912
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 3: You don't.

913
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: Get yourself ready for and get that energy going for

914
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: the next day to your tank is going to be empty.

915
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: And I can't really run on an empty tank.

916
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well said, well said. Is there a truth that

917
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: you feel or a lesson? Is there a lesson Chris

918
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: that you feel? Life is God to teach you the

919
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: hard way.

920
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: I think that the challenges are growth. I think when

921
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: I go through something that's really hard, I have to

922
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: remember to be grateful for it, and I have to

923
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: remember that it's part of the process and it's what

924
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: got me here. Because, by the way, if you just

925
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: started your adult life at eighteen and just got everything

926
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: you wanted, I think that it would be a very

927
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: different life. It would be full, it would be harder

928
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. But I love the

929
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: things that I've I wouldn't change anything that I've been

930
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,959
Speaker 1: through because it's taught me so much, so many things

931
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: in my life, decades worth of things. You know that

932
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: you think back and I think, what were the hardest

933
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: the hardest times you know, and those are the times

934
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: that really, I think for me personally, I experience the

935
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: most growth as a person. And believe me, I've made

936
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: so many mistakes, and you know, I'm not always right,

937
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: and I have to apologize to somebody, you know, all

938
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: the time if i'm you know, I'm I'm human and

939
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not perfect and I'm flawed. But I just

940
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: try to learn something a little bit different and be

941
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 1: a little bit better every day.

942
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: What's the lesson that you feel you're really realizing right

943
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: now in your seventy years that's kind of at the

944
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: forefront of your mind, a principle or a lesson that.

945
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: There's probably a couple. I'm trying to be more patient.

946
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to lose my temper over things that

947
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: don't matter and that I can't control, because I know

948
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: that I have a purpose. I know that I have

949
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: this beautiful life and this beautiful family. So just relax.

950
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: When you can't control something, who cares. It's not going

951
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: to change anything. Me getting upset isn't going to change

952
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: a thing. I can renegotiate, I can talk to somebody calmly,

953
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: I can try to deal with things that the challenges

954
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: that come up day to day, and if I can't

955
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: control it, I've got to let it go. I've got

956
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: to say to myself Okay, you know it's funny, do

957
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, doctor Amen?

958
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. Yeah. He's been on the story of

959
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: four or five times.

960
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 1: Oh, I love him so much. So I talk to

961
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: him from time to time. And he said, what's on

962
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: your mind today? And I says, you know what's on

963
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: my mind is I keep thinking I'm a complainer and

964
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: I've my daughter Chloe has really brought this to my

965
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: mind top of mind and said, Mom, you've got to

966
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: stop complaining about nothing, like you have the most beautiful life.

967
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: And I go, I know you're right. I'm a control freak.

968
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: So when you're a control freak, like my idea of

969
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: a great Saturday afternoon is rearranging my drawers, it gives

970
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: me peace, It helps my brain. It helps me to

971
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: get organ I'm a very organized girl, so to reorganize

972
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: everything just to I don't know, blow off some steam

973
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: helps me to relax. It's my form of zen. So

974
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: when I can't control something, it I get annoyed, like

975
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: the littlest things like why did that person do? Like

976
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: that doesn't even make any sense. So common sense isn't

977
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: very common, as we all know, right, So I always

978
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: say that, and so so doctor Amen, said, I'm going

979
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: to give you the rule of twelve. He goes, you

980
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: have to wait until something goes wrong for the twelfth

981
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: time and.

982
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 3: Then you can let loose. And I said, oh, I

983
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 3: love that.

984
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: And so of course somebody forgets a bag, so we

985
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: have to wait, you know, whatever half hour for somebody

986
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: to go back drive somewhere. Then somebody forgot a passport.

987
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: Then you know, it went like that for a while,

988
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: right and one by one, okay, number one, and I

989
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: just smiled, you know, tried to breathe. Number two, Okay,

990
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to distract myself. I'll get on Instagram or something.

991
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: Right then number three, you know, and I kept trying

992
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: to distract myself from being cranky. Got to number twelve

993
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: and I thought, okay, next one, I'm going to you know,

994
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: shit's going to hit the fan. And of course number

995
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: thirteen came and I just went okay, And it really

996
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: helped to put me in my place a little bit,

997
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: like like nothing's this serious, Like why are you complaining?

998
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: What do you have to complain about? And then just

999
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: trying to find your piece, inner piece where you feel

1000
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: like we've all had days. I know everybody's had the

1001
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: day that they wake up and they realize today is

1002
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: such a great day, Like everything's going right, my family's healthy,

1003
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: I have money in the bank, I can pay the rent.

1004
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: I this relationship is going really well, and I have

1005
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: lots of friends, and everything's just coming up roses. And

1006
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: that's the feeling that I love to have and recognize

1007
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: when it comes along. So that feeling of gratitude and

1008
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: gratification and just thankfulness, like thank you God for all

1009
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: of these wonderful things. But it's not just about oodles

1010
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: and noodles of blessings. It's about a feeling, do you know.

1011
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 2: What I mean.

1012
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: It's about really recognizing how special that is. And sometimes

1013
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't come along every single day, so you have

1014
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: to appreciate it.

1015
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to look for it. You got to

1016
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: find that feel do Yeah, you got to find that feel.

1017
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: You have to find that feeling and then really kind

1018
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: of just you know, let it sink in.

1019
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're reminding me. There's a tool that I love.

1020
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 2: It's called the perspective scale. So if you looked at

1021
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: your life from zero to ten, Zero is the way

1022
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: you feel when you wake up and everything's amazing, and

1023
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: ten is you wake up and the worst thing possible

1024
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: could happen? Are you all the opposite right now? If

1025
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 2: you looked at the today's problem of someone forgetting their

1026
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: bag to the airport, yeah, it's like a two on

1027
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: that list. Yeah, because compared to the worst day ever,

1028
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: it's nothing. But when you don't have that perspective, everything's

1029
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: a ten. Everything feels like a ten, Like the meeting

1030
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 2: that felled through, the person they show up, the text

1031
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: you got that you didn't want to. It's like everything's

1032
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: a nine or a ten. And when you look at

1033
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: it in perspective, actually that's just a one. That's a one,

1034
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: it's a two. Yeah, it's you know what, and it

1035
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: just lets you what you're saying.

1036
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: You can't control it. So what are we going to do?

1037
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: Just get ourselves all twirled up? No, I can't do

1038
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: that anymore. I'm too. I want to protect my peace.

1039
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: And that's part of what I talked to doctor Aimon about,

1040
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: is protecting my peace and just showing more kindness and

1041
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: more generosity and more just being the kind of person

1042
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,959
Speaker 1: like my grandmother used to say, you better treat others

1043
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: the way you want others to treat you, know, And

1044
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: so of course and also she always said, if you

1045
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all.

1046
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: And that's what I want to plaster across my Instagram.

1047
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: It's such a different world.

1048
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 2: It's a great rule to right, great rule.

1049
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they still hold true all of these decades. They

1050
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: all do, they all do?

1051
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 2: You know?

1052
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: I have a lot of them. And no, I mean,

1053
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: you know, you can lead a horse to water, but

1054
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: you can't make a drink. I mean, all those silly ones.

1055
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: And my kids make fun of me all the time

1056
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: because you say it to that I'm old fashioned.

1057
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: Well though I was about to say, just so, just

1058
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: so everyone knows how organized Chris is. She game here

1059
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 2: thirty five minutes early today, like thirty five minutes early.

1060
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 2: No one does that. And Kendall, Kim and Chloe never

1061
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: been late to the podcast, never late to an event,

1062
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: didn't like It's just everyone operates so professionally. There's so

1063
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: much respect for everyone else's time and energy. Yes, and

1064
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: it's and it comes from that place. It's not just

1065
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 2: a check box. It's like whenever I've spent time with anyone,

1066
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 2: whether it's with Kim and Chloe in India or you know,

1067
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: whatever it may be everyone's always on time, and the

1068
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 2: energy's right, and everyone's excited, and there's excited to be there,

1069
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,439
Speaker 2: excited to be there and to be I.

1070
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: Love the girls because they love to build other people

1071
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: up and they have this great group of friends. And

1072
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: to look at these humans that you know, I've you know,

1073
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: just just so very proud of the women and the

1074
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: man that they've become because they make me so happy

1075
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: and they have, you know, very happy lives because they

1076
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: have each other. I mean, not everybody can have six kids,

1077
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: but it's a lot of people.

1078
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a raise, but.

1079
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: It certainly it makes for a really, you know, amazing family.

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01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 2: How did you make sure you got to know them

1081
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: all individually and intimately in a way that you could

1082
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 2: guide them towards their passions and help them find it

1083
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 2: because that's such an individual process. It is, it's such

1084
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:32,479
Speaker 2: a personal thing.

1085
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: It's I think with the first four, I was lucky

1086
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: enough to not be working through the pregnancies or raising

1087
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: them when they were small, and I took that time.

1088
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: And then later when I was you know, I really

1089
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: came into this growth and you know, television success. When

1090
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: I was fifty two, when we started our show Wow.

1091
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy?

1092
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: I know, and people, by the way, thought that we

1093
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: just sort of appeared out of nowhere. And I had

1094
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: a life for a couple decades, several decades that I

1095
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: was very immersed in Hollywood and knew everybody and had

1096
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: this beautiful life with Robert and then Bruce at the time,

1097
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: and you know, just had this glorious, you know life

1098
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: together with my kids and really experienced so much with

1099
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: them from when they were babies and they were always

1100
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: doing things and in sports and we went to everything,

1101
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: and you know, it was just a typical childhood for

1102
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: them that they were involved in everything and we were

1103
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: right there, you know, as you know, having a front

1104
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: row seat to their childhoods. And that makes a big difference,

1105
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, when you're just all in a thousand. I

1106
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: had some friends who didn't experience what I experienced, and

1107
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: the difference in the outcome and how their kids were

1108
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: raised versus you know, there are differences, it's like, and

1109
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: it's not just about somebody who throws themselves into, you know,

1110
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: one of their kids. It's definitely how a child's makeup is,

1111
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, you know, they're individuals. But what was so

1112
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: fascinating for me was how different every every single child was,

1113
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: Like I had my first baby, and you don't know

1114
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: what to expect with number two. One is like one.

1115
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: Two is like twenty for me. That's how it was

1116
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 1: for me, And it was very overwhelming to have two

1117
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, what's one more, you know, and

1118
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: then it just kept going. But I think what you

1119
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: don't expect and what people would say to me at

1120
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: the time, people that were my age but didn't have

1121
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 1: any kids or one kid, and they would say, Wow,

1122
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: how are they so different? And they were just obviously

1123
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: had their own, you know, amazing personalities and all the

1124
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: things that come with that, and just learned each one

1125
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: little by little, yeah, and just were part of each

1126
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: other's you know, obviously DNA, but it truly like they're

1127
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: just the biggest part of my heart.

1128
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: But it's it's so interesting to hear that that having

1129
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: that time with each of them and having that quality

1130
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 2: time in those early days, and I assume you'd build

1131
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 2: up the skills by the time you had Kindle and.

1132
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: A break had like an eight year break in there.

1133
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: And so when I had Kendle, not only had the

1134
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: world change and the you know, I mean there was

1135
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: a time. I mean I had a good, solid decade

1136
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: when I had like three high chairs lined up and

1137
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, strollers and two car seats, and and then

1138
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: I went through a stage of having a little bit

1139
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: of a break with being pregnant and then started all

1140
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: over again, and everything changed. There were telephones, there were computers.

1141
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: It was huge, a huge change in how everything worked.

1142
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: And nineteen ninety five came along and Kenda was born,

1143
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: and then I really had another chance at sort of

1144
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: continuing my family with Kendall and Kylie, and thought, oh,

1145
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: now we need another one because you don't want Kendall

1146
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: to grow up kind of so far apart in the gap.

1147
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: So we had another one. And Chloe was like my

1148
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: angel because Chloe really helped me. She was ten, maybe

1149
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: or eleven, and she really helped me with Kendall and Kylie.

1150
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: Because now at this point, I've got a full time

1151
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: job and I've got to figure out how to keep

1152
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: the lights on truly, and I thought, oh, this is

1153
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: like so from morning till night, working and trying to

1154
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: make it, you know, a career was very interesting, and

1155
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: that little Chloe was like a little mama's helper with

1156
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: everything with feeding and bathtime and you know, help me

1157
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: babysit on the weekends. I was in the house, I

1158
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: was in my office. But you know, if I said,

1159
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: you guys play out here, I'll be right.

1160
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 2: You know.

1161
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: But was such a great set of hands and such

1162
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: a she gave everything to those girls. Wow, and really

1163
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: helped me with that so that I'll always be great.

1164
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 2: Was her. That was ural, That was her right energy

1165
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: that she had.

1166
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: I could have called Chloe at ten years old and

1167
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: said we're having folks for dinner tonight, can you just

1168
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: throw on a little something for dinner and set the

1169
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: table for eight ten people? She would have nailed it.

1170
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean, she was something else. She still is just remarkable.

1171
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 2: That kid beautiful.

1172
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, so you know, if I hadn't had the

1173
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: older ones to really help me with the younger ones,

1174
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: it would have in a lot more difficult. But that's

1175
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: what great big families are. So that's why they're so special.

1176
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 2: You're promoting big families, Chris, that's the.

1177
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 4: Everybody get out there and have some kids, some kids.

1178
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we need.

1179
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 2: It seems so thoughtful though, like you were like, all right,

1180
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 2: I don't want Kendall to be the last one who's

1181
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 2: left alone, and so we'll have like there's there's so much.

1182
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: It's intentional.

1183
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: It was very intentional, very intentional. Yeah, I didn't want

1184
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: somebody to be left without there, Like it was Courtney

1185
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: and Kimberly, and then it was Chloe and Rob who

1186
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: were still connected at the hip. They're both all of them,

1187
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: and then it's Kendall and Kylie. Yeah, so they all

1188
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: had their little I had different litters, they had different pals.

1189
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: You know, it was it's really and I just I

1190
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: felt really good about that.

1191
01:09:47,320 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that it goes through the kids to

1192
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: go one thing that each of them have taught you.

1193
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Courtney taught me probably how to be a mom.

1194
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: She was my first born, and she was you know,

1195
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: she gave me a run for my money because she

1196
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: was very caliky, and that was interesting and very challenging

1197
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: for you know, those long nights and all of that.

1198
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: So that was like, oh, okay, this is what it's like. Okay,

1199
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: and you would do anything to make her life and

1200
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: have her feel better. And you know, this little tiny

1201
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: thing that was you know, really had an upset tummy

1202
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: for nine months at least and then I wanted to

1203
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: do it again. Kim taught me multitasking, and Chloe taught

1204
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: me probably oh, I mean, they all taught me love.

1205
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 1: But Chloe united everybody and taught me a lot about

1206
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:15,839
Speaker 1: how grateful I was for humor because she was so funny.

1207
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: And then Rob the same. Rob was just a joy,

1208
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: but he was the boy. You know. Robert Kardashian Senior

1209
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: came from a big Armenian family and they were praying

1210
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: for a boy from day one, so you know, it

1211
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: was always, you know, I hope it's the boy. I

1212
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 1: hope it's the boy, and it's going to be Robert Junior,

1213
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And I was like, okay, it's a girl,

1214
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: you know, another girl, another girl. And so when Robert

1215
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: was born, it was like all the Armenians were rejoicing.

1216
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: They were My mother and father in law were so

1217
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: happy and all their friends. And I remember she ran

1218
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: to the hospital with this beautiful broke diamond broach that

1219
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: she gave me, and I was, you know, it was

1220
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: so joyful, and it was like New Year's Eve, you know,

1221
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,759
Speaker 1: and it was a celebration. So that was really special,

1222
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: and it taught me a lot about their culture and

1223
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: how to celebrate on another level and all of the

1224
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 1: experiences that because suddenly, when Robert was born, the Armenian

1225
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: side of my in laws really kicked in over at

1226
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: my house. You know, it's like, we're going to make,

1227
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: you know, these Armenian meals and I'm gonna show and

1228
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: we're trying to teach the kids to speak a little Armenian,

1229
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: which you know didn't go that far. They're not fluent

1230
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: or anything. But it was a lot of fun to

1231
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: learn about that and finally to have the boy that

1232
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: they had been hoping for for all that time and

1233
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: then so that was joyful. He taught me a lot

1234
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:03,799
Speaker 1: about what that meant and what you know, having probably

1235
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: what they considered, you know, more of the head of

1236
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: the family because I had a son and what that

1237
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: was like. That was just such a beautiful experience to

1238
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: have a boy. And then Kendall, I think taught me

1239
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: a lot about patience and serenity because I had two

1240
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: miscarriages before I had Kendall, and that taught me a

1241
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: lot because you think you're invincible, I'm just going to

1242
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: pop out another baby, and then you don't, and it

1243
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: becomes a little bit of a struggle, but when she came,

1244
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: you know, it was just so amazing too, and it

1245
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: made me realize how appreciation. I think a lot of

1246
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: that lesson too, was how much I appreciated and then

1247
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: sat in awe of all the other times I had

1248
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: done it and thought, Wow, this is not just so

1249
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: easy for everybody. And by that time, when Kylie came along,

1250
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: I also appreciation and just joy. And I got just

1251
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: stational diabetes very badly, and I gained about one hundred

1252
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: pounds and that was hard, and it taught me a

1253
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: lot about patience, and it taught me a lot about

1254
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:24,440
Speaker 1: being healthy and healthy choices, and the world was changing,

1255
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: and a lot of my friends at the time we

1256
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: were all in our forties. I had Kindle when I

1257
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: was forty and I had Kylie when I was forty one,

1258
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: and that when you do that in your life after

1259
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: having four other children, that's very you know, it's a

1260
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: decision you're making. It's very intentional, and you don't just

1261
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: accidentally pop up and get, at least for me, get

1262
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: pregnant for no reason. And so it was very intentional

1263
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: to add to my family. And Kylie taught me a

1264
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: lot about being grateful and having gratitude for all of

1265
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: my children because now that I'm in my forties, a

1266
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: lot of my friends were also in their forties, and

1267
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: everybody was struggling with infertility, that hadn't had a baby yet.

1268
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: And here I was on my you know, fifth and

1269
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 1: sixth and you know, and some people were really struggling,

1270
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, so grateful that this had been this,

1271
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: this was my journey. So I felt like, very grateful

1272
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 1: for that.

1273
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 2: That's beautiful. So sorry for your loss, I mean those

1274
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 2: two miscarriages. Yeah, I mean I've had a lot of

1275
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 2: my friends in the last twelve to twenty four months

1276
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 2: have experienced miscarriages, and I feel like people are starting

1277
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 2: to talk about it a bit more now.

1278
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: You grief, It's a terrible thing that you do because

1279
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 1: it's so silent almost you know, it happens, and people go,

1280
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: were so sorry. And I carried that for months, months

1281
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: and months. You know, you still think about it from

1282
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: time to time, but don't dwell on it at all.

1283
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: Just grateful that I am and I got to have

1284
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,919
Speaker 1: my journey and my experience, and my kids are thriving

1285
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: health wise at the moment, so you know, you just

1286
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: have to be there and support and love on the

1287
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: friends that you that go through that, and that that

1288
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: was a lot of my friends were experienced around that time, and.

1289
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 3: That was real.

1290
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Speaker 1: That was a big moment for me during those years.

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01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't a moment. It was several years of just

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01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: just trying to be there and being supportive and being

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01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: a friend and trying to go to doctor's appointments and

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01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 1: you know, doing different versions of IVF and all these

1295
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 1: different medicals. But by the way, we're just becoming something

1296
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: that worked. In those years, like it was very still

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01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 1: very new and thirty years ago, almost years ago, and

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01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: I just always would hold my breath when one of

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01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: my friends would get pregnant again, you know that it

1300
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 1: experienced loss in such a difficult way and praying, and

1301
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: then every time one of my girlfriends would have a

1302
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: baby after a long journey, I would go to the

1303
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 1: hospital and we would celebrate and it was just yeah,

1304
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: I remember doing that quite a few times.

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01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: So anyway, yeah, no.

1307
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing that. It's I think it's going

1308
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: to be useful for a lot of people to hear

1309
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 2: that because it's I don't think it's ever going to

1310
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: get easier when people go through something. No, it's always

1311
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 2: going to hurt, and knowing that others are going through

1312
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: it is probably the only thing right help.

1313
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 1: It's devastating to people that have tried for so long

1314
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: to have a baby and it just doesn't happen for them.

1315
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: And that used to break my heart because I always

1316
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: experience the joy and that joyful part of it. I

1317
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: never really had the side that ended very sadly.

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01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 3: I had.

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01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a couple of experiences that was,

1320
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: you know, traumatizing to say the least at the time,

1321
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 1: But I went on with a happy ending. And some

1322
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: people don't get that happy ending, and that always used

1323
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: to break my heart, you know, to have anybody struggle

1324
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 1: with that. But now, my goodness, there's so many amazing,

1325
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, ways to overcome just due to all the

1326
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 1: new technology, all the things they're doing now and the

1327
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 1: way people are using surrogates. That's such a wonderful gift

1328
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: to be able to give someone. I used to think

1329
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: when I was really young and not thinking it through.

1330
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: After I had a couple of kids, I said I

1331
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: would I was watching something on TV once about a

1332
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: surrogate and by the way, we're talking nineteen eighties, and

1333
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: I used to think I would do this for somebody.

1334
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: If somebody like it would well, I would do this.

1335
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: And then you know, then a few minutes later, you're

1336
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: like Chris, snap out of it. But no, I used

1337
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: to think that, truly. I used to think that would

1338
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: be a great thing to do. So I really do

1339
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 1: admire women who give their life to somebody for a

1340
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: couple of years, basically of helping them carry a baby.

1341
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 1: I just shout out to anybody who's ever been a

1342
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: surrogat what a beautiful, sacred gift.

1343
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 2: And now, from your position of having this wisdom and

1344
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 2: being in this place in your life, what's a piece

1345
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 2: of advice or wisdom that you're sharing with each of

1346
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 2: the kids. What's the different lens or direction that you're

1347
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: giving each of them right now?

1348
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 1: I think be kind, treat each other with love and kindness,

1349
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: and everyone that you encounter, and you never know what

1350
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 1: somebody's been through or what they're going through at the

1351
01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 1: moment or that day. And if people are you know,

1352
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: cruel and nasty. We talk about that a lot lately,

1353
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: just about the you know, the way people can get

1354
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: worked up online and some of the negative energy there

1355
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: and just really trying to not listen to the noise,

1356
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: don't read that kind of stuff, and try to be

1357
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: more joyful and just to be there for one another

1358
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: because all we have is each other. That's all we've got.

1359
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: It goes by so fast, and it's especially when you

1360
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: have kids you realize how fast time goes by. And

1361
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: Kylie shared in our group chat, our family group chat,

1362
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: a picture of Stormy yesterday and I haven't seen her

1363
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: in a week, and I was shook. I was like,

1364
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 1: this is just going by so fast. She's you know,

1365
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: she grew afoot what's happened here? So I think just

1366
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 1: to appreciate the moment and drown out the noise as

1367
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: much as you can and love each other as hard

1368
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: as you can because you only have this one life

1369
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: and it goes by really fast.

1370
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you keep talking about this interview, that's drowning out

1371
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:17,480
Speaker 2: the noise, and yeah, there being so many disturbances.

1372
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: You have to Yeah, because there's so much going on.

1373
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: I have so much incoming constantly in my life. You know,

1374
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: there's always something to look answer to, look at a contract,

1375
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: have a zoom, do a beautiful podcast. There's always so

1376
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: much to choose from, and so many beautiful things we

1377
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: can do, But there's also a lot of it's work,

1378
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 1: but it's stuff we need to do, or it's conflict,

1379
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: or it's something you need to deal with personally. There's

1380
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: always something you know going on during the day, and

1381
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: I think you have to edit, edit your life and

1382
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: really focus on what you want to put your energy into,

1383
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: put your heart, your soul into, put your love into,

1384
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 1: and then edit what you can get rid of to

1385
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 1: find some joy and some peace in all of it,

1386
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: and through all of that be grateful.

1387
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 2: What I love learning about you more and more the

1388
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 2: more time we spent together is that I feel like

1389
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 2: you're this incredible powerhouse, amazing business person, incredible strategy. About

1390
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 2: the heart of it, there's this really soft, loving, soulful,

1391
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 2: you know individual And is that how you see yourself

1392
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 2: when you feel most seen for people who know you

1393
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 2: the deepest and the best? Yeah, how did they see you?

1394
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 2: What did they see?

1395
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: I think the way you described Anyone who knows me

1396
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: knows I'm just a big baby and I'm a big

1397
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: softie and I cry at commercials. I will literally have

1398
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: it right into the surface at all times. But then

1399
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: I go to work, and I'm like, okay, listen, no,

1400
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm really not, but I'm you know, I love what

1401
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 1: I do, and I know that through experience and time

1402
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 1: and you know, just all the things we've been through,

1403
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: you know. I try my best every day and try

1404
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: to get through the day with as much integrity and

1405
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: the best character I can, you know, put out there

1406
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: and be myself and do what I think is right,

1407
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: and teach my kids to be good human beings and

1408
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 1: my grandkids and just have so much fun and enjoy

1409
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: every minute.

1410
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 2: And yeah, you did it right, Chris.

1411
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, listen, I make a lot

1412
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 1: of mistakes throughout my life and during the day, and

1413
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, all of it, you know, just like everybody does.

1414
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 2: That's normally.

1415
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: But I think if we just go out there and

1416
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: put our best foot forward, like my mom used to say,

1417
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,919
Speaker 1: my grandma used to say, and do our very best

1418
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: and be the best sink scrubber you can possibly be,

1419
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 1: You're going to be. Okay.

1420
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 2: I love that, Chris. We end every on Purpose interview

1421
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 2: the final five. These questions have to be answered in

1422
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 2: one word to one sentence maximum, so you have a sentence.

1423
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 1: For each Okay, I'm responding to your word.

1424
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll ask you a question. You can have a sentence,

1425
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 2: you can have a sentence. Yeah, So Christianity is your

1426
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: final five. The first question is what is the best

1427
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 2: advice you've ever heard or received?

1428
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: Lead with your heart.

1429
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 2: Second question, what is the worst advice you've ever heard

1430
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 2: or received?

1431
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: Probably somebody telling me how to raise my kids, and

1432
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: then I do the exact opposite, and I think I

1433
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 1: did it.

1434
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 2: Because you disagree with that. Yeah, what was some of

1435
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 2: that bad advice? Like what kind of things did people say?

1436
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: Just you know, when you're going through life and people

1437
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 1: are telling you, you know, different ways to just you know,

1438
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: approach a problem and how they would handle it. And

1439
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 1: I've always just done my own thing. Yeah, I think

1440
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: you have to re really go with your intuition and

1441
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: your gut when you're raising kids, or you know, any

1442
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: any real important decision that you make in your life.

1443
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 1: You have to follow what you like, your your soul

1444
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 1: tells you to do. And I've been really I think intuitive,

1445
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: you know about what I think is right and wrong.

1446
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 2: Question number three, what do you feel your soul is

1447
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 2: here to experience right now?

1448
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: I think I have a strong purpose in raising my

1449
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: family and raising great kids and created a legacy that

1450
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: I pass on to my grandchildren and their children and

1451
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 1: just showing and learning from one another my family. I

1452
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 1: think it's all about my family. I was born to

1453
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: be a mom and help them find their passion, their truth,

1454
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 1: their joy, their their legacy, and so I have a

1455
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 1: lot of I'm so proud of that that gets to

1456
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: be my purpose.

1457
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 2: So it's so clearly what it feels like you were

1458
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: born to do.

1459
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: And I feel like that, Yeah, I feel so strong.

1460
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 2: And it's amazing that you're thinking about not only your

1461
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 2: grandkids but their kids and oh yeah, like you really

1462
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 2: do think about generational.

1463
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: I think I'm a very sentimental person. And I made

1464
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: an app for my family that we have all of

1465
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: our home movies from the time they were born and

1466
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: they're up on the screen and I try to think

1467
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,480
Speaker 1: of really interesting things to give them about their childhood,

1468
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 1: and you know how what they can do for their kids,

1469
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: and you know, it's just it all comes back to

1470
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: the kids, the grandkids, and is celebrating, is celebrating anything

1471
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 1: is so special in my family and being able to

1472
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: celebrate Christmas and Thanksgiving and Halloween and fourth of July

1473
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 1: and Valandi like everybody's birthday, it's every month there's something

1474
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: really big that happens around our crew, and I think

1475
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: just having that joy and that to look forward to

1476
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 1: if it's just being together and like you were saying,

1477
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: you're celebrating your special time with your life and that's

1478
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 1: something that you're looking forward to and you can't wait.

1479
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 1: We feel like that all the time because there's so

1480
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: many of us, and so my purpose here is to

1481
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: be this you know, conductor of all of those stuff

1482
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: and to teach it to all of them and then

1483
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 1: they'll teach it to their kids and their kids they'll

1484
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,839
Speaker 1: teach it to their kids, and you know, just the tradition,

1485
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: the sentimental times, the memories, the scores of photos that

1486
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: I used to put into albums before there was ever

1487
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: an I phone, and you know that all means so much.

1488
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, question numb before you are obviously there for all

1489
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 2: of them. What do you still go to your mother for,

1490
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 2: who's ninety one?

1491
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 1: Everything? I talk to her every day on the phone.

1492
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: Really we help each other with what we're going to watch.

1493
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: She loves Dateline as much as I do, so we're like,

1494
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 1: what murder mystery or we're going to watch tonight and

1495
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 1: then she'll say, Okay, I was sad today, so we're

1496
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: going to watch a comedy and we'll say, okay, which one?

1497
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: And so we have great fun, just you know, doing

1498
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 1: that together, even though we're She lives a mile from

1499
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 1: my house. I try to get her to move in

1500
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: with me, but she refused. She's so independent, which I

1501
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 1: admire and love, you know. And she lives part time

1502
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,639
Speaker 1: in La Joya down in near San Diego, and she's

1503
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: got beautiful views. So she sends me photos every day

1504
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: of how much she appreciates the ocean and her surroundings.

1505
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: And you know, we just have great fun together.

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01:28:59,120 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 1: One ninety one.

1508
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Yeah, Yeah, it's beautiful what she passed down.

1509
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 2: Your grandmother passed down, so it's already been three Did

1510
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 2: they have that as well or were they the ones

1511
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 2: to start it off?

1512
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 1: I think my grandmother she started it.

1513
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, she started it.

1514
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so lucky me.

1515
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 2: It's already been five generations.

1516
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: Lucky me.

1517
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Fifth and final question, Chris, we asked this

1518
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 2: to every guest who's ever been on the show. Okay,

1519
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 2: the question is if you could create one law that

1520
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 2: everyone in the world had to follow. What would it be?

1521
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: Love one another?

1522
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 6: Simple?

1523
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 2: Simple? Why do we find it so hard?

1524
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:45,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, but that's mine, that's

1525
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 1: my advice.

1526
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm so grateful to you for your time, your energy,

1527
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 2: you know, sharing your soul. I'm waiting now all I

1528
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 2: was thinking about this whole time while you were speaking.

1529
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 2: I was like, we need a Chris memoir, Like, we

1530
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 2: need all of the these incredible stories of you scrubbing

1531
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 2: that donut floor.

1532
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 1: And yeahs the glaze of the gaze of the floor.

1533
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 1: I am the best donut glaze, scraper washing, and the

1534
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 1: us we need.

1535
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 2: We need a memoir from from the from the matriarch,

1536
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 2: you know, we need it. We need a memoir. You know.

1537
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: They're silly stories and something that you know most people

1538
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 1: won't you know, think are significant, but they were growing

1539
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 1: up and you know that's everybody's life is so different,

1540
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 1: and that's you know, part of mine. So I'm grateful

1541
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: for every moment.

1542
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, will you impact millions of people across the world.

1543
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 2: So your story matters for people to know how you

1544
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 2: became who you became. And I'm grateful that we could

1545
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 2: share that chapter here and celebrate your upcoming seventieth birthday

1546
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 2: and just you, so grateful for you your family, and.

1547
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: We're grateful for you. And I'm proud of you for

1548
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: spreading all the messages you spread around the world. And

1549
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 1: everybody listens to you and gets such strength and knowledge

1550
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: and comfort and hopefully turns their lives around in some way.

1551
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 1: And that's a very special position to be in. And

1552
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 1: you know that's your very special man. So thank you

1553
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 1: for all that you give to everybody in the world,

1554
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: including me and my family. So thank you, Thank you, Chris.

1555
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 2: You're the best. If you love this episode, you'll enjoy

1556
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 2: my interview with doctor Daniel Ahman on how to change

1557
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 2: your life by changing your brain.

1558
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 7: If we want a healthy mind, it actually starts with

1559
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 7: a healthy brain.

1560
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1561
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 7: I've had the blessing or the curse to scan over

1562
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 7: a thousand convicted felons and over one hundred murderers, and

1563
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 7: their brains are very damaged.