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Speaker 1: the naughty but Nice Sham your House, drom Shooter. It

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Speaker 1: is Monday morning. I'm doing TV very early today to

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Speaker 1: talk about the Grammy Awards and lots of the delicious gossip.

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Speaker 1: But you get it first here on the podcast, So

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Speaker 1: Garrett is not with us. It is not Garrett's fault,

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Speaker 1: though I should point out I messed up the schedule

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Speaker 1: today by doing so much TV, so we're up super

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Speaker 1: early recording this so you can listen to it all

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Speaker 1: day long. You know, I hate to miss a show.

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Speaker 1: I never do. I try so hard not to do it.

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Speaker 1: In the early days, when I had to do the

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Speaker 1: show by myself, if somebody called in sick or couldn't

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Speaker 1: think I'd got enough to say to talk about for

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Speaker 1: Talking is something I love to do and I love

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Speaker 1: doing it with you. Nought ease, you're the co host day.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump into the show. Her time is it? My

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Speaker 1: friends in his Tea Time? Really big story broke over

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Speaker 1: the weekend and friends were blindsided by Katherine O'Hara's secret

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Speaker 1: illness and her final days. So Hollywood has been left

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Speaker 1: reeling after the sudden death of beloved comedy icon. She

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Speaker 1: was beloved Katherine O'Hara. Even her closest friends had no

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Speaker 1: idea that she was seriously ill. Let me explain. So Catherine,

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Speaker 1: who was seventy one years old, too young, died Friday.

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Speaker 1: Was rushed to hospital from her Brentwood home, a beautiful

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Speaker 1: her team did confirm that she had a quote brief illness.

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Speaker 1: According to sources, she and her husband Bea, a good, good,

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Speaker 1: in complete shock. When the news broke. They had no

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Speaker 1: once we know that. So, just eight days earlier, there

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Speaker 1: Now that she never ever did. She was known in

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Speaker 1: never to cancel. We also had some hints, there were

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Speaker 1: what's wrong with Catherine. Well, we all knew there were

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Speaker 1: a few medical issues. The latest photographs of her from September.

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Speaker 1: She attended an Apple Plus party in September and Emmy party.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely touching and heartbreaking. Also to she made some

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Speaker 1: moving along. The original Housewives of New New York City

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, a ditching Bravo. They're going to ditch Bravo

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Speaker 1: to Arrival Network. So the original queens of the Real

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Speaker 1: So sources say that Luan de Lesseps, the Countess, Sonia Morgan,

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Speaker 1: They couldn't get to the degree on money. They couldn't

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Speaker 1: happy they figured out a price. It's much much cheaper,

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Speaker 1: do you think? Okay? Moving along, Kanye West's daughter took

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Speaker 1: what Kim does. She doesn't want to do reality or fashion. No, no, no,

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