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Speaker 1: My ex husband ruined my life, so I took everything

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Speaker 1: from him in our divorce.

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Speaker 2: Girl, take it all.

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Speaker 3: I want to know how much you took. So sorry.

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Speaker 1: This will be a long post, but there is some

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Speaker 1: background information that I believe is relevant. This happened in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. For some background information, at the time, I

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Speaker 1: was twenty six female when I met my now ex

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Speaker 1: husband at the time thirty one male via Facebook in

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Speaker 1: January twenty seventeen. He messaged me this long paragraph about

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Speaker 1: how he really wanted to meet me and we should

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Speaker 1: go out and I should give him a chance to

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Speaker 1: see where it goes me being vulnerable and going through

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Speaker 1: some heartbreaking life changes. Agreed, and we started talking. By

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Speaker 1: the way, this comes from you just particular three one

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Speaker 1: eighty four on the rok storytime subreddit. So long story short,

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Speaker 1: We went on a couple dates. He stayed over one

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Speaker 1: night and then never left, basically moved in with me.

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Speaker 1: At the time, he had nothing. He was living in

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Speaker 1: a small storage building behind his parents' home, so small.

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Speaker 1: All that fit in it was a recliner that he

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Speaker 1: slept in, a TV, and a mini fridge. He would

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Speaker 1: be locked out of the house when they went to bed,

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Speaker 1: so he had to use the bathroom outside in the

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Speaker 1: woods after that.

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Speaker 3: Geez, what did she steal from him? He's got nothing.

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Speaker 2: This guy is at rock bottom massage cheese.

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Speaker 1: He had no car and no job at all, and

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Speaker 1: his wife had left him a year prior. He was

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Speaker 1: on workmen's comp for a work related injury and was

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Speaker 1: in the middle of a lawsuit. Okay, things were going

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Speaker 1: pretty good, and we got along pretty well and had

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun together. In April of twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: he got my family and his family together at my parents'

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Speaker 1: house to have a dinner. Said it was so our

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Speaker 1: families could meet to see how they could get along.

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Speaker 3: Little did I know it was so he could propose.

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Speaker 1: Being on the spot, I said yes, and by the

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Speaker 1: time we left, everyone had already picked a date for

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Speaker 1: the wedding August of twenty seventeen and started planning it.

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Speaker 1: Me feeling the pressure, went along with it. The next

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Speaker 1: four months were super stressful, planning the wedding and trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out if this is what I wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: This is not the situation you want to be in.

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Speaker 3: I gotten married.

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Speaker 1: I had always told him I wanted to date at

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Speaker 1: least a year before even being proposed to, and I

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Speaker 1: almost left him multiple times, but our families talked me

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Speaker 1: into staying because every couple goes through this when planning

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Speaker 1: a wedding.

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Speaker 3: August comes and we are married.

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Speaker 1: Everything was fine for a while, but we would have

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Speaker 1: small disagreements that I now realized were huge. On our

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Speaker 1: one year anniversary, I bought him a vehicle. Jeez, marry me,

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Speaker 1: I need one. It was a brand new twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: thirty five thousand dollars vehicle, even though I was in

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Speaker 1: a beat up two thousand and five vehicle. We had

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Speaker 1: moved into a new place. He said it was weird

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Speaker 1: staying somewhere that my exes had been, and convinced me

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Speaker 1: we needed a fresh start in a home that was ours.

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Speaker 1: And even managed to get him a job with a

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Speaker 1: large retail company because a friend of mine was a

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Speaker 1: manager there. I even had helped him set up to

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Speaker 1: a manager's position there within a couple of months of

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Speaker 1: being there. So basically, in the span of a year

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Speaker 1: and a half, he went from nothing to having a wife, home, vehicle,

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Speaker 1: and well paying job because of me.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, because of you. That's crazy. You've taken this

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Speaker 2: guy who was borderline like just optically at his least

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Speaker 2: worthwhile like good, just like doesn't have a bathroom at night,

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Speaker 2: rock bottom type stuff, and you have flipped his entire life,

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Speaker 2: and I hope nothing bad happens because of it.

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Speaker 1: I'm once again wondering, what did she take from this man?

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Speaker 1: Because she gave him everything.

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Speaker 2: He might just be really hot. A lot of times

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Speaker 2: when we have stories like this and we're like, how

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Speaker 2: does this make sense, we're like, oh, what if they're

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Speaker 2: just really hot? It could be that's true, Might not

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Speaker 2: be though, might be true. Love.

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Speaker 1: Well, the home we moved into, I knew the landlord

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Speaker 1: since I was a kid, so he was happy to

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Speaker 1: give me a special rate on the place. And my

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Speaker 1: ex knew it was because the landlord knew me that

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Speaker 1: we got this place. This is relevant. Later in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: we got to a point we were fighting all the

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Speaker 1: time and I felt unappreciated. I was always told I

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Speaker 1: didn't do anything to you. You have no reason to

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Speaker 1: feel that way. You need to stop being so emotional.

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Speaker 2: Yikes.

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Speaker 1: The straw that broke the camel's back came when I

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Speaker 1: got home from work. I was working ten hour days,

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Speaker 1: six days a week. One day and he was passed

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Speaker 1: out on the couch while my son autistic was in

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Speaker 1: the kitchen and had gotten a hold of a knife

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Speaker 1: and said he was trying to make us dinner. I

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Speaker 1: got my son and left to stay with my parents

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Speaker 1: for a while. Over the next few months, we tried

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Speaker 1: to work things out. We decided to start over it

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Speaker 1: day in a while to see how things went and

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Speaker 1: go from there. I didn't want to be another statistic

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Speaker 1: and was feeling pressured from parents to make it work out.

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Speaker 2: What is there to work out with this guy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they shouldn't have pressured him to propose.

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Speaker 2: They maybe they know about this, like whatever, this settlement

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Speaker 2: that he's trying to get, and they're like he's gonna

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Speaker 2: have million.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wait till the lawsuit kicks in.

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Speaker 2: Just wait, babe.

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Speaker 1: Ultimately, in twenty twenty, I decided I was done for good,

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Speaker 1: found my own place, and cut contact. For the most part.

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Speaker 1: I'm twenty nine and he is thirty three. Now they're

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Speaker 1: still so young. At this point, I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: be done, and we agreed that I could take all

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Speaker 1: my son's belongings and we would split the rest of

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Speaker 1: my stuff so he wasn't left with nothing, and he

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Speaker 1: could keep the place we had.

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Speaker 3: He got a house out of this.

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Speaker 2: You're literally just like, come on, give it. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: give him the house. You're gonna give him the car.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna give him half of your own stuff. You're

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Speaker 2: just like you my kids stuff back. Yeah. Wow, Angel,

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Speaker 2: give me a little too much of one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, back to the street.

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Speaker 1: We also agreed he could keep the vehicle, but only

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Speaker 1: so long as he would make the payments on it

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Speaker 1: on time, and once he was able to finance himself,

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Speaker 1: he would take my name off or he could pay

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Speaker 1: it off and I would sign it over to him.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no no no no, that is

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Speaker 2: a bad idea. I'll tell you one thing. I know

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Speaker 2: for a fact that guy is not making all the

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Speaker 2: payments on that vehicle, and he doesn't have to because

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Speaker 2: it's not your name.

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Speaker 3: That's bad, bad, bad bad. The vehicle was in my name,

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Speaker 3: along with the least to the home. Her credit score

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Speaker 3: is about to Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You're about to You're throwing your credit score into a volcano.

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Speaker 2: Like for this guy.

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Speaker 1: He made the first payment on time, but the second month,

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Speaker 1: when I contacted him about the payment, he said he

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Speaker 3: End of the week.

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Speaker 1: I was getting nervous because the payment was due within

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Speaker 1: a week and a half. When I contacted him again

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Speaker 1: and again, he said I don't have it and then

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Speaker 3: It was Friday.

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Speaker 1: Payment was due the next Wednesday. That Sunday, a mutual

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Speaker 1: friend and I was hanging out and let it slip

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Speaker 1: that he was already engaged to another woman. WHOA, and

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Speaker 1: said he was gonna keep the vehicle until they rebow

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Speaker 1: it so he could ruin my credit and screw me

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Speaker 1: one last time.

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Speaker 2: WHOA? This guy is a demon? How do you She

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Speaker 2: gave you a house and a car and you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: let me screw over? Who are you?

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Speaker 1: This is where he effed up. Of course, being the

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Speaker 1: owner of the vehicle. On that Monday, while he was

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Speaker 1: at work, I had someone drop me off in the

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Speaker 1: in door wasn't locked, and drove it home.

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Speaker 3: Who doesn't lie a car door.

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Speaker 2: If you have the key in the car and it's unlocked,

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Speaker 2: you don't deserve to even have one of the first place.

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Speaker 1: This man is rude and dumb. His work was about

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Speaker 1: an hour from where we lived. Once he got off

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Speaker 1: work and realized he had no way home, he called

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Speaker 1: and told me if I didn't bring him his vehicle back,

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Speaker 1: that he would come to my house and get it.

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Speaker 1: I told him to go ahead, and as soon as

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Speaker 1: he drove it off my property, I would have him

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Speaker 3: Auto get him, at which point I.

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Speaker 1: Told him he could return his key to the vehicle

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Speaker 1: and collect his belongings out of it. During the heat

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Speaker 1: of the fight, I said, I picked you up from

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Speaker 1: nothing and gave you everything and even made this as

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Speaker 1: simple as I could so you were not left with

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Speaker 1: nothing again. But keep on and I'll make sure to

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Speaker 1: leave you where I found you.

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Speaker 2: Ooh oh, I'll leave you where I found you. Drop

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Speaker 2: on sis.

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Speaker 5: It's at rock but underneath the rock at rock bottom,

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Speaker 5: like that's where you were very bikini body, and it's

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Speaker 5: honest rock where you should be based on how you've

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Speaker 5: been behaving in this story.

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Speaker 1: He tried to call my bluff, but ultimately gave me

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Speaker 1: the key and took his belongings and left. I took

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Speaker 1: the vehicle, cleaned it up, took it to a dealership

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Speaker 1: and sold it before the payment was due, and got

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Speaker 1: it paid off and even an extra six thousand for

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Speaker 1: it over payoff value. He relentlessly harassed me from the

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Speaker 1: time he left till I had enough. On Thursday, I

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Speaker 1: had over one thousand Texan voicemails telling me I'm a

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Speaker 1: petty beep and that I'm going to pay for leaving

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Speaker 1: him without a vehicle.

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Speaker 2: Funny thing about that is she actually got paid for

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Speaker 2: leaving you without a vehicle.

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Speaker 1: As she should, and also like she left him better

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Speaker 1: than he was before she picked him up. Yeah, so dude,

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Speaker 1: she why is he complaining she tried to give you a.

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Speaker 2: House in a car and you were like you're You're yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm above you. Wild.

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Speaker 1: So I made good on my threat. I called the landlord,

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Speaker 1: explained what happened, and told him my name was to

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Speaker 1: come off the lease. He happily took my name off.

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Speaker 1: I called the internet, water and power companies and told

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Speaker 1: them I moved and needed the service that was in

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Speaker 1: my name disconnected from the previous address. They happily disconnected

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Speaker 1: the same day. Mans don't got water or power.

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Speaker 2: Not until you start paying for it.

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Speaker 3: Now here we go.

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Speaker 1: I also called my friend his manager and told her

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Speaker 1: about him leaving the cash safe keys unattended in the

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Speaker 2: This guy is just completely inept.

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Speaker 3: Yeah at all things he's done.

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Speaker 1: and Facebook every week day at three pm PST.

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Speaker 3: And we're probably live right now, so tap on our profile.

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Speaker 2: Give it a tap. So clearly the solution here is like, well,

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Speaker 2: the solution has already been done.

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Speaker 3: I think justice is being served.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's serving justice of just a hot steaming plate

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Speaker 2: of justice. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I hope her wealth is multiplied.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gotta be, because she's not taking care of

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Speaker 2: this man baby anymore.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 2: Who's just leeching all of her money from him?

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Speaker 3: So sad. People are weird.

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Speaker 1: When he got home from work, he had no water,

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Speaker 1: no power, and no internet. His credit was shot so

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Speaker 1: he couldn't get water power in his name, so he

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Speaker 1: eventually was evicted. Dude to not being able to maintain

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Speaker 1: I texted him Friday evening and told him that now

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Speaker 1: he has seen a petty beep and now I can

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Speaker 1: officially say I left him where I found him, blocked

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Speaker 1: him and never looked back.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations. That guy fully deserve that treatment.

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Speaker 1: I will say the EmPATH in me like, does feel

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Speaker 1: for this guy a little bit, but also.

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Speaker 2: No, stop it, get out of here, No, your EmPATH.

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Speaker 2: He literally got engaged to another woman immediately. He's true,

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Speaker 2: and she's like, He's like, I can't wait. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: screw her where one more time? True by getting the

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Speaker 2: car repote and ruining her credit. That's true. You deserve

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Speaker 2: every bad thing that ever happens to you.

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Speaker 6: Dude.

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Speaker 3: You're right, you don't deserve my empathy. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Edit to add the divorce was finalized in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: This is what we agreed to amongst ourselves when we

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Speaker 1: were separated. By the time the divorce was finalized, we

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Speaker 1: had lived separate lives for a year with no contact,

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Speaker 1: and that is the end. My ex husband said, our

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Speaker 1: kids don't recognize him as their father, I said, that's

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Speaker 1: his faults.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you should have been there for him a

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Speaker 2: little bit more. That's just my guess.

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Speaker 1: I'm thirty three and have two kids, twelve and eight.

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Speaker 1: I divorced their dad when I discovered he was cheating

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Speaker 1: Despite that betrayal, I agreed to share custody because I

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Speaker 1: their lives. By the way, this comes from you glittering

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Speaker 1: mail one one seven on the rok Storytime subreddit. However,

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Speaker 1: since the divorce, he's only been around when he's picking

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Speaker 1: them up for visits. He often goes out with his stepchildren,

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Speaker 1: I decided to upgrade my older son's computer, and he

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Speaker 1: my brother's son. My brother has been a huge support

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Speaker 1: My ex, on the other hand, is rarely available for them.

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Speaker 1: whenever his step kids need something, he's there. Very suspicious,

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Speaker 1: very interesting, see what his priorities lie. Once he even

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Speaker 1: he got upset. He complained that if I had money

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Speaker 1: forgiven to two months of child support he'd missed since

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Speaker 1: He added that if I could give away a computer,

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Speaker 1: Then his wife jumped into the conversation, accusing ME of

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Speaker 3: I added that I allow my.

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Speaker 1: Kids to see their father so they can grow up

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Speaker 1: with him in their lives, not so she can interfere

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Speaker 1: with how I parent. My ex was offended, but I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hello, this is my child and and his cousin,

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Speaker 2: my brother slash his uncle. You're not hey, you're not

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Speaker 2: involved here? Golly, be involved with your own kids.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, blended family.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's a tough situation, but that's not

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Speaker 1: like the woman's fault. After that, things seemed to calm

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Speaker 1: he'd tried reading a bedtime story to our youngest at home.

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Speaker 1: He still likes to be read before bed, usually by me,

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Speaker 1: for a story for eight year olds without a dad

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Speaker 1: on his tablet, and it hit him hard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet it. I hope it hit you hard.

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Speaker 2: That should be a big wake up call that you've

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Speaker 1: Also, that's like, it's so sad, but also like kind

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Speaker 1: of funny that the son was like story for eight

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Speaker 2: The room, he's trying to he's just trying to feel

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Speaker 2: what he feels this dad. It's that it's basically my stepdad.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, he probably thinks of his cool uncle more

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Speaker 2: of his dad father, the cool uncle. What's going to be?

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Speaker 1: I can The next day, my ex offered to take

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Speaker 1: saying I was the one pushing him away from his role.

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Speaker 1: I told him it's up to him to show up

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Speaker 1: I reminded him that he was the one who broke

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I feel like he kind of just did it to himself.

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Speaker 2: Hello, knock, knock. The consequences of your actions are here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: your kids don't really like you. Yeah, you need now

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Speaker 1: After that exchange, his mom called me. While she's always

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Speaker 3: Oh that's yeah.

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Speaker 1: Later my ex texted me saying that if I weren't

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Speaker 2: Time to take personal responsibility. Man, this is one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent on you update.

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Speaker 1: These past days have been a bit unusual. First, I

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Speaker 1: want to thank all of you. I didn't expect to

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Speaker 1: receive so much advice, and I never thought this app

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Speaker 1: would be so useful. It's not very popular in my country.

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Speaker 1: Now back to the topic. My ex sent me messages

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Speaker 3: I agreed.

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Speaker 1: He came to my house and we didn't beat around

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Speaker 1: I replied that, looking back now, I never would have

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Speaker 1: I didn't leave his step children without a father because

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Speaker 2: I am so mad at this guy. Jesus, they have

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Speaker 2: all the tools that you need to repair this problem

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Speaker 2: in your life. They're right here. They're in your hands.

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Speaker 2: They are your own two hands. You can fix this

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Speaker 2: like it's her fault that you cheated. How on earth

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Speaker 2: are you going to say that it's your ex wife's

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Speaker 2: are an absurd person.

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Speaker 1: I kept telling him things. I'll admit they weren't kind,

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Speaker 1: given his current state, I didn't feel sorry for him,

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Speaker 1: and I said no. He told me he didn't think

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Speaker 1: I could be so cruel, and I replied that when

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Speaker 2: Wow, Mike dropped on that for sure. Yeah, and well deserved,

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Speaker 2: Mike drop. This guy's just he just wants someone to

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Speaker 3: He left.

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Speaker 1: After that, his mother called me and said that she

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Speaker 1: knew what I had told her son, that he hadn't

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Speaker 2: Like that, Why is the mom the mediator? This guy

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Speaker 2: is a Why you're a grown man. Why is your

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Speaker 1: Also, like don't you care about your grandchildren? Like don't

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Speaker 1: you feel bad for the situation? Where's the remorse?

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Speaker 2: The apple must not fall far from the tree.

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Speaker 3: She said, I should just get over it.

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Speaker 1: I answered, with all due respect, what I said wasn't

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Speaker 1: out of hatred, but out of truth. If your son

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Speaker 1: is crying, it's because he's finally facing the consequences of

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Speaker 1: his actions. Maybe instead of worrying about how he feels now,

446
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Speaker 1: you should have taught him to take responsibility and treat

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Speaker 1: people with respect. Yes, she said, I didn't know what

448
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Speaker 1: it was like to feel a mother's love and see

449
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Speaker 1: a child suffer. And I replied that I did understand

450
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Speaker 1: because I have two children who cry over a living father,

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Speaker 1: two children who see their dad being a father to

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Speaker 1: other kids when he doesn't have time to be their father.

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Speaker 1: She said he was sorry, and I told her not

454
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Speaker 1: to put words in his mouth and to stop calling

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Speaker 1: me about anything related to her son.

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Speaker 3: I hung up.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to cry so badly, but I'm a danged

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Speaker 1: mother and I don't have time for that. I want

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Speaker 1: my kids to feel safe, loved, and strong enough to

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Speaker 1: not need anyone, not even me, to be themselves.

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Speaker 1: Last Thursday, I took my kids to their cousin's birthday

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Speaker 1: party hosted by my ex sister in law. I still

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Speaker 1: have a good relationship with her. She was the one

468
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Speaker 1: who told me about the infidel and that her mother

469
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Speaker 1: was already encouraging it. My ex showed up alone and irritated.

470
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Speaker 1: My kids kept their distance from him. They kissed his hand,

471
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Speaker 1: but then ignored him completely. My ex mother in law

472
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: told the kids they should show more respect to their father,

473
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Speaker 1: and my eldest replied that he doesn't show respect for me,

474
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Speaker 1: since he and his partner talked badly about me. I

475
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: scolded my son not for what he said, but for

476
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Speaker 1: how he addressed his grandmother. I told him it was

477
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Speaker 1: wrong to eavesdrop on private conversations and repeat them. Then

478
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Speaker 1: I asked him to gather his things because we were leaving.

479
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Speaker 1: My ex mother in law asked me not to leave,

480
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Speaker 1: saying the kids were having fun and we could resolve

481
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Speaker 1: this as adults. She asked my ex what he had said,

482
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Speaker 1: and he claimed not to remember. I told her I

483
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Speaker 1: didn't care, and she said we should be good parents.

484
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Speaker 1: I replied that to be good parents, you need to

485
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Speaker 1: be good people first.

486
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Speaker 2: Boom, this is.

487
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Speaker 1: Dragging on so long too, Like this makes me so

488
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Speaker 1: sad for these kids collateral damage to this like dis

489
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Speaker 1: functional dynamic.

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Speaker 2: You gotta think of the children. You can't just go

491
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Speaker 2: choose like your new family over your old family for

492
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Speaker 2: years and then be like, wait, why do my kids

493
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Speaker 2: not like me?

494
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

495
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Speaker 2: It's like yeah, because you were not there for them

496
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Speaker 2: in their formative years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my ex was getting agitated. My ex mother in

498
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: law asked why we couldn't have a civilized co parenting relationship.

499
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Speaker 1: I told her everything I've mentioned here about his free

500
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Speaker 1: will to see the kids and how the second custody

501
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 1: agreement isn't working since he only sees them some weekends.

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Speaker 1: My ex didn't want to discuss it, saying he had

503
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Speaker 1: too many kids at home. My ex mother in law

504
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Speaker 1: told him the only kids who should feel comfortable are his,

505
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Speaker 1: and the comfort of that of the others should be

506
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Speaker 1: provided by their biological father.

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Speaker 2: Amen, Hey, grandma's been in fact, mus been in facts.

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Speaker 1: Finally, my ex wanted to end the conversation because his

509
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Speaker 1: mother was scolding him for being a careless father. He

510
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: also said it was my fault. I asked him to

511
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Speaker 1: clarify how it was my fault. You can see the

512
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Speaker 1: kids whenever you want. What more do you want? He

513
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: started yelling, claiming I was only being petty because I

514
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Speaker 1: didn't really need the money, since I earned more than

515
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Speaker 1: him and had fewer kids to feed. I told him

516
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't continue the conversation and that I'd show him

517
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Speaker 1: what being uncivilized looks like by filing for the overdue

518
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Speaker 1: child support payments. His mother asked what I meant by

519
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 1: overdue payments. I explained that he was three months behind.

520
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Speaker 1: She was furious, slapped him and demanded to know what

521
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Speaker 1: he had done with the money for his children. He answered,

522
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Speaker 1: I couldn't let Junior miss out on attending the same

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Speaker 1: school as my son. I didn't want him to feel inferior. Dude,

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Speaker 1: you're not meeting the mark. Junior doesn't need to go

525
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Speaker 1: to the same school.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, Yeah, that's facts. Junior does not necessarily need

527
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Speaker 2: to go to the same school. Yeah, you have child

528
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Speaker 2: support payments to me.

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Speaker 3: Take care of your other kids too.

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Speaker 1: My ex mother in law said she couldn't believe it,

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Speaker 1: and they started arguing. I left yet, for context, my

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Speaker 1: youngest son attends a private school, and my ex pays

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Speaker 1: for his step son to attend the same school. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: my ex mother in law came over and said she

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Speaker 1: would pay the overdue fees. She brought the money in cash.

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Speaker 6: I knew my.

537
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Speaker 3: Ex would be furious. Here's some contexts.

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Speaker 1: My ex mother in law doesn't work, doesn't own anything herself,

539
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: and lives with my ex sister in law. However, she

540
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: does have significant savings from her inheritance if she pays

541
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Speaker 1: the tuition my ex and knows there won't be much

542
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: left for him when she passes, even though she's still healthy.

543
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: He's been asking her for years to invest some of

544
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: that money in his business ideas, but she's always refused.

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Speaker 1: My ex's retaliation was not picking up the kids this weekend.

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Speaker 2: WHOA, what a perfect logical leap you took there. You're like,

547
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Speaker 2: I want to get back at my ex wife for

548
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Speaker 2: making me pay child support. I guess I'll be a

549
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: beat dad. That'll make my kids like me. Dude, you

550
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: just keep digging the hole deeper and deeper and deeper.

551
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Speaker 3: This is sad.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, my ex sister in law called me. He doesn't

553
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: know all the details yet, but apparently my ex's fifteen

554
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: year old step son punched him in the mouth. She

555
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: said she'll let me know exactly what happened once she

556
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Speaker 1: finds out. This guy just keeps getting karma.

557
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: He is losing on all fronts, and you know he

558
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: might just deserve it from the way he's been acting

559
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: and treating his family four years.

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Speaker 1: Man is taking l's left and right before anybody asks.

561
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Speaker 1: The new custody agreement will likely take a year to finalize.

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Speaker 1: The court says the overdue payments are the priority and

563
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Speaker 1: the rest can wait. We have more urgent cases.

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Speaker 3: Update two. A promise is a promise.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier, my excess step son had an

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Speaker 1: altercation with him because my ex refused to let him

567
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Speaker 1: go out. Now I have more details. My excess step

568
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: son had plans to go bowling with some friends. His

569
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: biological father had already given him permission and money for

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Speaker 1: the outing. However, when he told his mother, she's said

571
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Speaker 1: he couldn't go because they needed him to stay home

572
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: and watch his younger siblings. My ex and his wife

573
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: had planned on outing and needed someone to stay with

574
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Speaker 1: the kids.

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Speaker 3: This led to an argument.

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Speaker 1: The boy raised his voice to his mother, and my

577
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: ex stepped in to demand that he respect her. The

578
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: boy replied that he wasn't his father trying to maintain authority.

579
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: My ex told him that as long as he lived

580
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: under his roof, he had to follow his rules. The

581
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: boy ignored him, and turned him away. My ex followed

582
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: him and touched his shoulder to get his attention. At

583
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: that moment, the boy turned around, punched him and shouted

584
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: that he wasn't his father and could never compare.

585
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 3: It to him.

586
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: Wow, that's so Now your own kids hate you, and

587
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: then the step kids that you prioritized over your own

588
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: kids hate you too.

589
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 2: His head's spinning right now, not just from the strong

590
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: right he just received from his stepkid, but from just

591
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: he's every possible decision, every decision he could have made

592
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: in the last like handful of years. It's like he's

593
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: the wrong one every time.

594
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

595
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 2: Crazy.

596
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: I will say to all the children of divorce parents, like,

597
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: my heart is with you, because that is so hard.

598
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what think of the children, Think of the children.

599
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: I have to think of the children.

600
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: Like this kid, right, he got permission from one parent

601
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: and then the other parents who obviously are not communicating.

602
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 3: With the dad, Like, that's a kid should not have

603
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 3: to deal with that.

604
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: Well, what would you do in that situation if it's

605
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: like your hypothetical child is like, oh I want to

606
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: go bowling, but you had like a date night.

607
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing I feel like if you're co parenting,

608
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: like you have to communicate with both parents, like even

609
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: if you're separated. I feel like parents need to be

610
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: on the same page if you don't want to introduce

611
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: like chaos and unnecessary like emotional strife.

612
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: Like the stepdad could have like checked in.

613
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: With the mom like hey, or vice versa. The bio

614
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: dad could have been like, hey, Billy just asked me

615
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: if he could go to the bowling alley like I'm down,

616
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: I can give him money. And then mom's got to

617
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: be like, hey, actually, we have this plan so he

618
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: can't go, and boom, They're both on the same page, right.

619
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's better a clear communication communication is kihi okay?

620
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: And again this is like my mental health background. I'm like,

621
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: don't traumatize the kids.

622
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: The mother scolded him for his behavior, but the boy,

623
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: still angry, shouted back that he hated her. This version

624
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: was shared by my ex and his wife to my

625
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: ex mother in law. My sister in law later related

626
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: to me they went to see my ex mother in

627
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: law to try to gain her sympathy and convince her

628
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: to take care of the kids, the two step children

629
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Speaker 1: and the baby so they could go out However, my

630
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: ex mother in law told them she would not take

631
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: care of the children even the grandma's turning against them.

632
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: Literally, zero people on your side.

633
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: When I spoke to my ex, he mentioned he was

635
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: dealing with family issues and claimed that the boy's biological

636
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: father was turning him against him. He didn't give me

637
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: many details and omitted most of what my sister in

638
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: law had shared. He simply informed me that due to

639
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: the situation, he wouldn't be able to pick up our

640
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: children this weekend. The fifteen year old boy is now

641
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: staying with his biological father. As for what I mentioned earlier,

642
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: my ex was two months behind on child support and

643
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: that same week he was supposed to make another payment.

644
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: He didn't, leaving him three months behind. In the end,

645
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: his mother was the one who covered the overdue amount.

646
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: You gotta feel bad having your mom cover all that

647
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: you gotta, right, or does this guy not feel bad

648
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 2: about anything? I don't know. He's got to feel bad

649
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 2: about stuff, right, Yeah, he's got it, but he only

650
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: feels bad about himself. Yeah.

651
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Speaker 3: Well, while she's covering the bills, we're covering the content.

652
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Speaker 1: So by the way, you can join us live on

653
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Speaker 1: YouTube and Facebook every weekday at three pm PST. And

654
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Speaker 1: we're probably live right now, so tap our profile. There's

655
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: another relevant update. But let's discuss this guy is a

656
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: nightmare and his family is falling apart.

657
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: I mean he's already doghouse with his own kids. Now

658
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: he's in the doghouse with the older step child who, like,

659
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: clearly this guy just does not have any self awareness,

660
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: because I can almost see in my head like he

661
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: instead of you know, clearly the kid. He's fifteen years old.

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00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: You thought you're going bowling with your friends. Now you're

663
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: told that your babysitting. You are upset. I can put

664
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: myself in that person's shoes. I'm mad. Yeah, And it's

665
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: like dad already said I can go, and now Mom's

666
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: like no, And then you get kind of snippy, and

667
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: then this the random dude you have no respect for it, Yeah,

668
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: probably because you've seen the way that he treats his

669
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: own kids. Yeah, is like you can't say that, and

670
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: you're just gonna be like shut up, Dave.

671
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, who do you think you are?

672
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: Dave? You know my dad get out of here. Yeah,

673
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: and you can't walk away from me. I mean, maybe

674
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: you don't clock him with the strong right, but on

675
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: a real level. Yeah, that's the solid advice is like,

676
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: y'all need some counseling.

677
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: I'll get some healing.

678
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: Regarding the child who attends the same school as my son,

679
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: it's not the fifteen year old involved in the altercation,

680
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: it's his younger stepbrother, who is eight years old, the

681
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: same age as my son. I decided to enroll my

682
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: son in that school when the affair became public. At

683
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: the time, I was working as a kindergarten teacher at

684
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: the same school and the boy had been one of

685
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: my students. We all knew each other, and to protect

686
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: my children from rumors, I transferred them to a private school.

687
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: This happened two months before the school year ended. Thanks

688
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: to the circumstances and the support of some kind people,

689
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: we managed to get them admitted.

690
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: That's the end.

691
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 6: My ex husband cheated on me, so I exposed his

692
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 6: theft to our friends. Tell everyone to make an incredibly

693
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 6: long story short, I twenty seven female, caught my husband

694
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 6: twenty nine male, cheating back in the beginning of June,

695
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 6: after he said he wanted a break in our nine year,

696
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 6: five year married relationship with a woman he met on

697
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 6: an online game in Australia.

698
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: What was he playing? How do I find this game?

699
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: Just kidding?

700
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 6: Who lives in Australia right now and is playing this game?

701
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 6: By the way, this comes from the spiciest cucumber on

702
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 6: the Okay storytime separed it so when I tried to

703
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 6: reach out to him after he had left to try

704
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 6: and fix things, he said, I'm not coming back. I'm

705
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 6: not afraid of change anymore. I don't want to fix us.

706
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 7: I'm done.

707
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 6: Dang, that game really turned his whole life around? Did

708
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 6: I wonder if he moved to Australia. I was upset

709
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 6: and hurt, and we both respectively moved into our parents' houses,

710
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 6: me going to my mom and dad's and him moving

711
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 6: to his mom and grandmother's. During this time, his mom

712
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 6: and grandmother still spoke to me and shared their condolences

713
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 6: with me. They loved me like their own and were

714
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 6: very upset with my ex for doing this to me.

715
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 6: Now a bit about my ex. I loved him greatly.

716
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 6: He did have things I would get upset about.

717
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: I e.

718
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 6: Constantly calling into work to play video games. Well was

719
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 6: he actually playing video games? Or was he gt on you?

720
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: This guy really has a thing for video, not.

721
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 6: Communicating feelings, not doing chores, et cetera. However, we had

722
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 6: fun together. I would often join things he wanted to

723
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 6: do together, like LARPing, running a role played tavern at

724
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 6: ren fairs, and playing card games like Yugyoh and Disney's

725
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 6: card game Lorcana at the game store he worked at.

726
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 6: And we had a great community slash friend group in both.

727
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 6: That does sound so fun.

728
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: What is LARPing?

729
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 6: It's like live action role playing. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

730
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 6: So it's like if you go too. It's not exactly

731
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 6: like you could do LARPing at a ren fairs, like costplaying,

732
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 6: but you're in character, So you're in costume and you're

733
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 6: in character.

734
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: I love it.

735
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 6: We had fun playing together and it was a nice

736
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 6: way to spend time with ourselves and our friends. When

737
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 6: both groups found out that I had filed for divorce,

738
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 6: they came to me and asked what had happened, and

739
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 6: I told them a very short summary, and they were shocked.

740
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 6: Apparently he had just been telling people we both fell

741
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 6: out of love, which is hard to believe because we

742
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 6: were a cute couple to most. About a week after

743
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 6: he I met with him to get him to sign

744
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 6: a document that he would need to either refinance his

745
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 6: van or sell it as my mother is a co

746
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 6: signer on his van by a certain time as he

747
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 6: plans to move to Australia to be with his mistress. Dang,

748
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 6: he's uprooting his whole life for this stress, for this

749
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 6: lady that he met on a game. He doesn't has

750
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 6: he met her in person before. I'm assuming not. If

751
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 6: he didn't pay the three K left on it, it

752
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 6: would get put on my mom and she does not

753
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 6: want to handle that on top of her health problems

754
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 6: right now, and he has a habit of making late payments.

755
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 6: He said it was a fair statement and that he

756
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 6: had no problem with it. He then tried to be

757
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 6: friendly ask how the dogs and cats were adjusting. He

758
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 6: then gives me the only apology I have still received

759
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 6: from him, which was, I'm sorry this has hurt you.

760
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 6: Couldn't even say like, I'm sorry I hurt you, just

761
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 6: this situation, Sorry that someone else, you know, the game

762
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 6: got in the way.

763
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: It's giving gaslight.

764
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm sorry you felt like I hurt you,

765
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: not even accountability.

766
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 6: No, I had never felt more anger in my life.

767
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 6: Flash forward two months at the beginning of August, I

768
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 6: have a new, well paying job and have a really

769
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 6: great support system behind me. My ex has all but

770
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 6: abandoned every friend group except a few mutuals here and

771
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 6: there and the LARP group, as he had known a

772
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 6: majority of them longer than I had, some of them

773
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 6: being friends for over eleven years. He had a habit

774
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 6: of not reaching out to people until he needed something,

775
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 6: and he would always frustrate my friends and I as

776
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 6: we seemed more convenient than actual friends. I think this

777
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 6: is where the title starts to come into play. I

778
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 6: go into the card shop to play Lorcana and I

779
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 6: had a paper for him to sign for tax reasons.

780
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 6: I ask our friend at the counter where he was,

781
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 6: and turns out he had been fired for calling in

782
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 6: sick and then going to an event where he posted

783
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 6: pictures of him being there, so he's also just a

784
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 6: bad liar in general. I was shocked, as the owner

785
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 6: is good friends with my ex. But I guess my

786
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 6: exit called in six seventeen times in four months and

787
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 6: the owner got sick of it. He also said he

788
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 6: had caught him selling cards back to the shop, but

789
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 6: they were my lorcana cards. As they saw me pull

790
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 6: some of them in store and would then see them

791
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 6: in his cell pile a few days later, when we

792
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 6: were still living together. I was furious, but thanked them

793
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 6: for telling me you can't catch a break.

794
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: This poor woman. She gets cheated on and then her

795
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: stuff is stolen. Also like this man just keeps calling

796
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: in sick.

797
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, seventeen days, get a better excuse to ask for

798
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 6: some time off. I don't know, it's ridiculous. The next week,

799
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 6: I find out from the owner of our LARP group

800
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 6: that the members of the group aren't supposed to take

801
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 6: money from tips, as no one person is better than

802
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 6: the group as a whole. This immediately raised a red

803
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 6: flag for me, as my ex took tips, but told

804
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 6: me it had been okayed by the owner.

805
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: By the way, if you want to see bonus videos

806
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: not on this page, search Okay story time clips on

807
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 4: Facebook for more.

808
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: Okay, back to the story.

809
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 6: I asked them to clarify, and they said they had

810
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 6: suspicions of people doing it, but had no proof. Since

811
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 6: my ex was going to be going to Australia, I

812
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 6: figured I wouldn't tell them as I wanted him to

813
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 6: still have friends before he left. However, they told me

814
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 6: he was wanting to come to the planned events for

815
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 6: the rest of the year, so I told them I

816
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 6: had found a screenshot from two years ago confirming that

817
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 6: he had taken two hundred dollars from an event in

818
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 6: tips and used it to buy a gaming computer. Oh

819
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 6: my god, two hundred dollars from one event caught up

820
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 6: guys getting tip. Well, we did the math and he

821
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 6: had probably taken over five hundred dollars total over those

822
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 6: two years. He's not even good at getting tips.

823
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: Honestly, I expected more.

824
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, over like five hundred years, he only had five

825
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 6: hundred dollars. I feel like my friends who work in

826
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 6: service industry in one day. Yeah, we'll get like, you know,

827
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 6: three hundred dollars in a day or something.

828
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 3: This guy's bad.

829
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: It's bad server.

830
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 6: And I confessed that he had given me some of it,

831
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 6: but I was under the impression that the bartending staff

832
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 6: could keep the tips handed to us and have since

833
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,240
Speaker 6: paid them back in full with interest because I felt.

834
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: Felt so horrible.

835
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 6: So hope he was saying she was under the impression

836
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 6: that he was allowed to do this and is now

837
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 6: giving it all back, which.

838
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 3: Is very considered okay, we slay on his queen.

839
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 6: The following week, they couldfront him over phone and gave

840
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 6: him multiple tries to come clean on his own, but

841
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 6: he denied it and said that he was tired of

842
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 6: me trying to ruin his life and that I was

843
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 6: setting him up. Then they said they had proof, and

844
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 6: he said that he had only taken one hundred dollars

845
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 6: total from the tips. They show him the screenshot and

846
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 6: he types for a long time but only responds with

847
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 6: a I see.

848
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: That's what he's like.

849
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 6: So he goes from he goes, I didn't take anything,

850
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 6: and they're like, well, be a proof, and he's like,

851
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 6: I'm being set up and they're like, no, you you

852
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 6: took money. And he's like, well, I only took one

853
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 6: hundred dollars and they're like no, and he was like,

854
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 6: I see, I see. They offered to let him stay

855
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 6: in the group, but he just can't be around the money,

856
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 6: but he declined immediately and told them he wishes them

857
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 6: the best and respond to any other message, including a

858
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 6: message where he can pay back the two hundred dollars

859
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 6: at most. By the way, you can pay us back

860
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 6: by joining us live every Weekdad three PMPSD on YouTube,

861
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 6: Facebook and TikTok to stop her profile. But what do

862
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 6: you think?

863
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: What do you do here?

864
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 6: Do you just block this man and never talk to

865
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 6: him again?

866
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean sounds like he's a lame o and

867
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: a liar. Yeah, he's dealing serves lor Kana cards.

868
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

869
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 6: And also I don't know why his friends are still

870
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 6: I mean the fact that he stole money and his

871
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 6: friends were still like, you.

872
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: Can still join our the group, like, just you can't

873
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: touch the money. He needs to go to Australia orwer

874
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: right now, right now.

875
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 6: I don't know if I was one of his friends, Like,

876
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 6: obviously it makes sense why op he doesn't want to

877
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 6: be around him because he's been awful to her. But

878
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 6: I just don't understand why his friends would want to

879
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 6: stick around this guy. They're good people, yeah, but there

880
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 6: is a little bit left to the story. Am I

881
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 6: an a hole for doing this? Most of my friends

882
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 6: are on my side, even though I told them I

883
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 6: wouldn't make them choose a side. Every time I speak

884
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 6: about him to my friends who have been in contact,

885
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 6: they tell me he's not doing great mentally and try

886
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 6: to guilt me who's doing that?

887
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: This is so weird.

888
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 6: She said that most of her friends were on her side,

889
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 6: but then tried.

890
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: To guilt her.

891
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yikes.

892
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 6: I can't contact him since he blocked me on every

893
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 6: social media and my phone number. I'm torn emotionally, as

894
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 6: this was someone I loved for nine years, just throwing

895
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 6: everything away and acting like I never existed. I don't

896
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 6: want to see him fall and drown. But at the

897
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 6: same time, I'm just telling people the truth and I

898
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 6: haven't lied about a single aspect of what I've been saying.

899
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 6: It's made me realize he wasn't a great person all

900
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 6: the time. I won't be apologizing to him until he

901
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 6: gives me more of an apology than he gave me.

902
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 6: Am I the A hole? No?

903
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 2: No, you literally just told people the truth.

904
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 6: This guy, you know, was awful. He screwed you over

905
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 6: so many times. Is moving to Australia stole your Laconic cards.

906
00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 6: You can't forget that.

907
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: I have a fresh start in Australia.

908
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 6: He'll be okay, He'll move on, and you should move

909
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 6: on and not think about him. And any of your

910
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 6: friends who are like, oh, you need to apologize, they're crazy.

911
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: You're not the whole No, and I do. You know,

912
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: it's good that you feel bad for the guy, but

913
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: he did it, but you don't have to. Yeah, that's

914
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: his fault.

915
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: I refused to follow my husband's ex on Facebook. She

916
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 2: keeps trying to break.

917
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 7: Us up influencers these days.

918
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, throwaway account. But my female forty six fiances male

919
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: forty six ex wife female forty eight is melting down

920
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: because I won't include her in my life.

921
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 7: Just can't wait for her to find this on Facebook.

922
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: She gon't find it now. I understand that since there's

923
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: children involved, there should be some co parenting on both

924
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: our parts and that we should be able to communicate

925
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: together for the well being of the kids. However, with

926
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: her actions and behavior, I've felt it best to keep

927
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: her out of our lives, letting my fiance who I

928
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: will call Ben, and her talk about the kids, and

929
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: letting him convey their conversations to me without me getting involved.

930
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: My argument being, you guys are the parents, so what

931
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: you guys decide is between the two of you. Okay,

932
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: makes perfect sense.

933
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 7: Reasonable.

934
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from users Stormy Rains on

935
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: the r slash okay storytime subreddit. So I've distanced myself

936
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: for my own sanity, because once her ex and I

937
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: got together, she turned into the jealous ex wife, despite

938
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: being the one who cheated on him with his best

939
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 2: friend and leaving Ben for him. She also had a

940
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: kid with the friend, which she passed off as Ben's

941
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: until the divorce. Whoa secret baby? Woo dude she had?

942
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 2: Oh no, she's crazy too. She hadn't a fair baby

943
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: and lied to him about it. Oh my ay. Once

944
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: she discovered that Ben moved on, she started blowing up

945
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: his phone with furious texts about how I quote can't

946
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 2: hold a candle to her and it's not love, it's

947
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: a rebound, as well as telling him that they both

948
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: know it's her he wants to with. He showed me

949
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: the texts. New Year's Eve, their kids spent a few

950
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 2: days at my place for the first time. She had plans,

951
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: as did we. She asked Ben to take care of

952
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: the kids and he explained he would be with me.

953
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 2: She had no problems dropping them off so she could

954
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: go away for three days. This will come into play

955
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: in a minute. By the end of January, Ben and

956
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: I moved in together, he with me as I had

957
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: the bigger place. She exploded again over our relationship. Valentine's

958
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: Day night, she blew up his phone with spicey pictures

959
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: of herself and messages of you know you wish it

960
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 2: were me with you right now.

961
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh.

962
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: That is huh. He gotta move on, girl.

963
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 7: I would give it to my wife and be like,

964
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 7: please delete these pictures.

965
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: I'd be I'd give it to my wife and be

966
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: like send some back. As furious as I was, I

967
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 2: understood that any reaction from me could be used against

968
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: him during the custody battle, and it was best I

969
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 2: do and say nothing. She was digging her own hole

970
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: and digging it deep. Then she changed tactics. She sent

971
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: me a friend request on Facebook. I saw it and

972
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: it baffled me. I checked my messenger, expecting to see

973
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: a message of her saying that I'm in her kids'

974
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: lives and we should keep in touch about matters involving them.

975
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 2: But there wasn't anything. If roles were reversed, I would

976
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: have included a message of intent. And I understand that

977
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 2: not everyone is me, but still this seemed off.

978
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 7: Maybe she didn't know she could message you until you

979
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 7: guys are friends.

980
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, it's a technical problem. I left the

981
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: request for a few days and thought it over. Yes

982
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: we should have communication between us for the sake of

983
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: the kids, but Facebook didn't seem like the place for that.

984
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: Most of my page was public but personal things. I

985
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: selected family and friends only, and I didn't want her

986
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: to have access to that. After thinking it over, I

987
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: deleted her requests. Not even an hour later, she's calling

988
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: Ben and screaming that I refused to friend her on

989
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: Facebook and that he needs to make me accept her

990
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: quote words, you need to make her well, it's crazy, Stacy.

991
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 2: I have news for you. Unfortunately, free will exists, and uh,

992
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: he's not gonna force her to do anything.

993
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 7: Facts.

994
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: When I calmed down, I told him I don't want

995
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: her as a Facebook friend. We don't know each other

996
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 2: like that, and I'm not comfortable having her there and

997
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: I'm not going to have to guard myself because she'll

998
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 2: be able to see everything.

999
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 7: There we go.

1000
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: She didn't even explain why she wants to be friends.

1001
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: She just dropped the request and that was it. If

1002
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 2: she wants to discuss the kids, she can call, text

1003
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: or meet me. Ben relate this to her, and my

1004
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: answer only seemed to infuriate her more. She started saying

1005
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: that she needs access to my Facebook so she can

1006
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: see the kind of person her children are spending time with.

1007
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 2: It's her right as their mother. And at this Ben

1008
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: then told me to chest friend her, because in this situation,

1009
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,479
Speaker 2: he'd want to see who his kids were spending time

1010
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: with too. I doubled down. Oh, I said, she doesn't

1011
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 2: need Facebook to get to know me. She can easily

1012
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: call me up and ask to sit down face to

1013
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: face over coffee or something like our parents did back

1014
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: in the day, actually meet, but she doesn't want to

1015
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: do that. She wants to spy from afar. I opened

1016
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: my Facebook and went to view as, which shows you

1017
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: what the public can see, and handed him my phone

1018
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: and asked what it was she needed to see. Most

1019
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 2: of my page was public except for a few things,

1020
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: those things being photos and posts about Ben and I,

1021
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: which I made friends only because I had a feeling

1022
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 2: she was already combing through my page. Yeah, I asked

1023
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 2: him what does she need to know that she can't

1024
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: already see? Then I showed him that the only thing

1025
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: she couldn't see are my posts about him. I told

1026
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: him all of this is bs. She didn't care who

1027
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: I was on New year's when she dropped the kids

1028
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: off at my place for three days and took off

1029
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: to party. It's not like there was no way she

1030
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: can communicate with me about the kids. She can call,

1031
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: she can text.

1032
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's the most direct way to communicate with

1033
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 7: someone this.

1034
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 2: It's like, she's totally right. The Facebook is completely unnecessary

1035
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: for what she's saying she wants to use it for.

1036
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: I went on and on about how laughable it is

1037
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: is that she's worried about the kind of person I

1038
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: am when she's the one who dropped her kids off

1039
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,959
Speaker 2: at a total stranger's house and never called to check

1040
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: in on them the entire time they were over. How

1041
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 2: she goes on a personal attack on someone she doesn't

1042
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: even know. She sure has a lot to say about me,

1043
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: considering we have never spoke to each other, going so

1044
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: far to keep telling her ex how much better she

1045
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: is than me, Oh my god, sending spicy pictures and

1046
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: having a meltdown because she can't stalk my page, cheating

1047
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: on her husband with his best friend and having a

1048
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: kid and passing it off as his Yeah, hello, look

1049
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: in the mirror, girl, you were the problem. I am

1050
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 2: not the one pulling all this crap, nor would I.

1051
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: I went on to say that I think she's seen

1052
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: enough of the kind of person I am, because I'm

1053
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: sure as heck have seen enough to know what a

1054
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 2: complete piece of crap she is. And I don't even

1055
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: need to look at her Facebook page to find that out. Oh, Mike,

1056
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: drop boom. Ben reluctantly agreed with me. He said I

1057
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: was right, and he understood. But yes, there's a butt here.

1058
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 2: But he said it would make things a lot easier

1059
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: if I just accepted her friend request so he could

1060
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: stop fighting with her over it.

1061
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 7: M mmmmmm. It just is gonna make her shut up. Yeah,

1062
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 7: there's gonna be another thing.

1063
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: It's not gonna stop.

1064
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 7: Okay, Then share me your account pausewords.

1065
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, can I take a look at your bank accounts

1066
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: because I need to make sure that this woman's not

1067
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: spending your money on anything unnecessary. Give me her social

1068
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: Security number immediately. Yeah, I need to do a background chat.

1069
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: That pissed me off because I saw that as him

1070
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: still letting her have the control over him, and I

1071
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: wasn't having it. As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing

1072
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: to fight over the answer is no, and that's that

1073
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: she just doesn't want to accept it. I refuse to

1074
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: give in to the request and tripled down. Oh. I

1075
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: said that there is no need for her and I

1076
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: to ever speak. She's not a part of my life,

1077
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: nor will she be. There's nothing she needs to convey

1078
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: to me. Ever, if it's about the kids, she can

1079
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: talk to you their father, and you can tell me

1080
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 2: and we can handle what we need to on our end.

1081
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: My life will not include her and I will not

1082
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: stand for her trying to control me through Bend. She

1083
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: did like that I was still refusing. Her next action

1084
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 2: was to start sending friend requests to my friends and family.

1085
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: When my sister called me asking why Ben's ex wife

1086
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 2: was sending her a friend request, I just about lost it. Yeah,

1087
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: I had enough and shut her out as much as

1088
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: I could. I made a post on Facebook about what

1089
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: was happening, which got me screenshots from people showing me

1090
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: the friend requests they received from her, and I changed

1091
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: my settings so that she couldn't see a dang thing.

1092
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 2: I figured she'd make a backup account and try snooping.

1093
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: I blocked her on every social media platform I have.

1094
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 2: She's currently still calling and texting that I'm hiding from

1095
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: her because I don't want her to see that I'm

1096
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 2: a danger to their kids all because I shut her out.

1097
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm being unreasonable. I don't think I

1098
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 2: need to give her full access to my life, and

1099
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: I believe that our life with the kids can be

1100
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: separate from her. What we do as a family is

1101
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 2: what we do. What she does when she has them

1102
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: is what she does. And I honestly think that giving

1103
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: in only opens the door to more issues. Exactly what

1104
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 2: you said, Riley, I really think I'm making the right

1105
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: choice here. Additional information I'm going to add Ben and

1106
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: her were married for over twenty years. Oh wow, that's

1107
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: quite a lot of time. That's it. The ain't know

1108
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: what job about me? It explains her. I think a

1109
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: couple things actually explain that level of attachment. Is that

1110
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 2: one they were together for twenty years. Two it's her

1111
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: fault that it ended because she cheated on him, and

1112
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: she's now obsessed with like fixing this mistake or like

1113
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: undoing it. And it's like, you know, she's probably me.

1114
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: I guarantee you she has never fully accepted responsibility for

1115
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: what she did.

1116
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 7: Oh heck no, the way she's acting, no, And if

1117
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 7: she did. It was just to manipulate to get back

1118
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 7: into the situation.

1119
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. They were together since they were teens. He's

1120
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: gone through twenty years of her lies, gaslighting, abuse and manipulations.

1121
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 2: For him, it's easier to give in rather than fight,

1122
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: taking the path of least resistance. Ah, he's got the

1123
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 2: muscle memory. Yeah, he's just like, just let just do it.

1124
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: It's so much easier to get easier.

1125
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 7: And then if you just crawl on the ground and

1126
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 7: lie like this in a fetal position, she just goes away.

1127
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: Giving into her was easier than emotional and physical abuse.

1128
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: He went through a lot for the sake of his family,

1129
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 2: and despite everything, tried his best to hold it together.

1130
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: It's patterned behavior which I'm trying to help him with.

1131
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: It's a process, and breaking the patterns isn't going to

1132
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 2: happen overnight. Everyone deserves a worthy and healthy love and

1133
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: taking on someone that's been through the emotional slash physical

1134
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: ringer is going to come with its share of hiccups

1135
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: and adjustments. This is an ongoing battle because of the kids.

1136
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: We are documenting everything good, thank god, We're recording calls,

1137
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: saving screenshots, all that good stuff. It's soul crushing, taking

1138
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 2: it and not giving it twice as hard back. However,

1139
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: as I stated, the cards are stacking more and more

1140
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: against her with each one of her outbursts. Not doing

1141
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: anything is hopefully going to show the courts how unhinged

1142
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 2: she is. As long as we don't engage in it ourselves,

1143
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: it goes more in our favor. Keep in mind there

1144
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: are children involved, and they are watching her go bonkers. Meanwhile,

1145
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: they're not seeing any craziness from Ben. Now. As I stated,

1146
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: Ben has years of her minulation conditioning, and she is

1147
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: pretty good at trying to flip things around and make

1148
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: you look like you're the one who's the bad guy.

1149
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 2: He's still stuck on the inside looking out, where we're

1150
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 2: on the outside looking in so we can see clearly

1151
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 2: the bigger picture. And this is where I am the

1152
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: a hole, because I actually enjoy locking horns with her

1153
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: and showing her that her tactics don't work on me,

1154
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 2: and I get a little satisfaction in seeing her come

1155
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: apart and not getting her way. She's so used to

1156
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: having control over Ben, it's killing her that she's slowly

1157
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: losing that. I snatched the controller out of her hands

1158
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: and she's throwing a tantrum over it. And by the way,

1159
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 2: you don't have to throw a tantrum, because you can

1160
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: just join us when we go live on YouTube Facebook,

1161
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: and we're always live every weekday at three PMPST. So

1162
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 2: tap our profile and.

1163
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 7: Ahead, join us.

1164
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: We just might be live right now. You never know, never, no,

1165
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 2: go ahead and check. Ben will get where he needs

1166
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 2: to be one day at a time. Is he worth it? Yes,

1167
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: a faithful man that despite everything fought for his family.

1168
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 2: He went through heck, and I feel like he deserves

1169
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: a healthy, loving relationship. To me, this drama is all

1170
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: temporary and hey, op, you're right about that. Drama does

1171
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: not last forever. It's just one bad chapter in our book. Eventually,

1172
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 2: she will exhaust herself and she'll either lose legally or

1173
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: the kids hit that age, which is soon where co

1174
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: parenting isn't necessary anymore. Ben's figuring it out. He's got

1175
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: a long road of healing, and I'd rather support him

1176
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 2: over abandoning him. And that is the end of that story.

1177
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: And hey, support him maybe going to therapy. You're definitely there.

1178
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 2: You're a great support for him. In a professional setting,

1179
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: it could certainly help him work through as some of

1180
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: the experiences he went through with his ex wife, who

1181
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: was a crazy manipulator. Isn't that right, dude?

1182
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 7: Agreed? Agreed.

1183
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: That is the end of this story, so catch us

1184
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: on the next one. My husband's ex wife can't move

1185
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: on now. She won't stop spreading lies or legs. I'm

1186
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 2: sorry for grammar mistakes, but English is not my first language.

1187
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: I twenty eight female, met my husband Rod thirty mail,

1188
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 2: nine years ago after I moved to his city, hot Rod,

1189
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: hot Rod. He was my brother's buddy and we also

1190
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: became friends quickly. I had a boyfriend at the time

1191
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: and he had a couple of relationships during the We

1192
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: always liked each other, but the time was never right.

1193
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: We were just friends that grabbed the beer together from

1194
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: time to time, had fun, and gave each other advice

1195
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: on whatever was going on in our lives.

1196
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 7: I'm just like us, just like us.

1197
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: And by the way, this comes from user sea Lover

1198
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: twelve thirty on the r slash Okay storytime subreddit, where

1199
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: you could submit your stories as well. So two years

1200
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: ago we found each other both single and looking for

1201
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 2: something meaningful. So we started dating and within a year

1202
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: and a half we got married. I know this sounds rush,

1203
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 2: but we have known each other for years and didn't

1204
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: want to waste any more time. We are just a normal,

1205
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: happy couple that is trying to enjoy life. This does

1206
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: not sit well with my husband's ex, Mary thirty three female.

1207
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: I never met Mary in person, but I have known

1208
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: her through what Rod and my brother told me about

1209
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: her over the years. Rod and Mary were together for

1210
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: about a year and a half before Rod broke up

1211
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: with her. I'd say two or three months before we

1212
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 2: started dating. During the last six months of their relationship,

1213
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 2: Rod often complained about her, saying that she wanted to

1214
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: control his friendships, she was becoming extra jealous, and he

1215
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: suspected that she was trying to quit her birth control

1216
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: pills without telling him.

1217
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 7: Oh wow, that seems like a very important piece of information.

1218
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 7: You should tell your partner.

1219
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: You should tell your partner if you're getting off birth control.

1220
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: The final straw was about buying a house. She was

1221
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: unemployed and living with her parents. He was living with

1222
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: his parents but had finally reached a salary high enough

1223
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: to ask for a loan and buy a house. Long

1224
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: story short, He wanted to buy a house for himself.

1225
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: She wanted him to buy a two family home for him,

1226
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 2: her and for her parents. She went ballistic when she

1227
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 2: discovered that he found an apartment that he liked and

1228
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: made an offer. He was paying for all of it,

1229
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: so he decided that this was enough, dumped her and

1230
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: went on a three week long vacation. Dude, Rod knows

1231
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 2: how to do it. Hot hot rod knows how to

1232
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: get it done. From that point on, a nightmare started.

1233
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: I'll summarize just the main events of the last two

1234
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: and a half years in bullet points.

1235
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 7: Oh no, thank you, I love bullet points.

1236
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: Was on vacation. She went to his workplace, asking who

1237
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: was the bee he was sleeping with. Oh, that's not

1238
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 2: very cool. She waited for him to come back from

1239
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: the vacation on the front door of his building with

1240
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 2: a cake, saying something like, I forgive you after you

1241
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 2: boiled it off. I think you should tell me you're

1242
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: sorry and hand me the keys for my house. You

1243
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: got all that on a cake?

1244
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 7: WHOA how did you do that?

1245
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: Is that a big cake? It must have been a

1246
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: pretty big one. She sent multiple letters to his address.

1247
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: At that point, she was blocked everywhere else because of

1248
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: constant calling and texting, saying stuff like she got a

1249
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: tattoo with their initials, which she really did. She took

1250
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: a pregnancy test that was negative, but new in her

1251
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: heart she was pregnant and lost the baby, a baby boy,

1252
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: she said, like a month after being dump this girl

1253
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: needs their like for real, for real. She's not only

1254
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: trying to gaslight the X in that letter. She wrote

1255
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: that to convince herself that that was the truth.

1256
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you put it on a lit detector out

1257
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 7: after that, She's, Oh true.

1258
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: Dude, she might pass it.

1259
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 7: Oh my god, which is very concerning.

1260
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: She really wanted to help him quote fight his demons

1261
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: and come back to her where he belonged, to mourn

1262
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: together the loss of their child and try again for

1263
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: a baby and other nonsense, which, for the record, I

1264
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: think it's ninety nine percent likely that that child never existed.

1265
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: One night, she entered his building and sat in front

1266
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: of his door until midnight, waiting for him to come

1267
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: back home to talk. The neighbor called Rod when she

1268
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: went out to walk the dog and found a sobbing

1269
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: woman she had never seen before on the doormat. When

1270
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: she found out that we were dating, she started spreading

1271
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: rumors that he cheated on her with me, he was

1272
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: cheating on me for sure, and writing in letters that

1273
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: I was just a replacement to forget her, that he

1274
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: could stop and come back to her now because she

1275
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: forgave him. She called most of his friends just to

1276
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 2: insult them, because if they were real friends, they would

1277
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: tell him to take her back because she was his

1278
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: soul meat, and then proceeded to block them and my

1279
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: personal favorite, she started a podcast on Spotify using all

1280
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: our real names and surnames. Every single episode was composed

1281
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: by a part where she narrated a part of the story,

1282
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: twisting reality like it was twisted in her mind, like

1283
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: how she was pregnant and he abandoned her, he cheated

1284
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: on her, et cetera. A part where she insulted someone,

1285
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: mostly his mother because quote she handled the divorce badly

1286
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: from his father, so he has unresolved issues. His father

1287
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 2: left when he was a kid to never be seen again.

1288
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: He calls his dad, his mother's current husband that grew

1289
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: him up, and me as I am just a pair

1290
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 2: of unknown thighs, in which he thinks he finds comfort,

1291
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: but in reality he's so unhappy. You can see it

1292
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: from his Instagram stories. You need to see legal restraining

1293
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: orders against this person. This is like dangerously unhinged behavior.

1294
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: The last part was just her begging him to come

1295
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: back to her and telling him she knows he will

1296
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 2: come back. We had lawyers involved to make her stop,

1297
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: thank god. And her excuse was that her psychologist told

1298
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: her to open the podcast. Bro, I think she needs

1299
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 2: a new psychologist because clearly it's not doing it.

1300
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 7: I think this like Alo just said, hey, just go

1301
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 7: in your voice memos and keep it there in a

1302
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 7: hidden folder. She's like, oh, make it public, okay, great,

1303
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 7: Like yeah.

1304
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 2: Your psychologist was like, write letters that you never said,

1305
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: and she's like, oh great, I'm gonna write fifteen letters

1306
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: and send all of them. When she found out about

1307
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: the wedding, she told in her podcast that every plan, date,

1308
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: and vendor we had was chosen by her when they

1309
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 2: were planning their wedding. The problems are he never proposed

1310
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: and they were never even talking about getting married. I

1311
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: chose the date and the vendors, which most of them

1312
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: I know personally for years, and the church and venue

1313
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: were in my little hometown, a two to three hour

1314
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: drive from where we all live. We still had to

1315
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: hire security in case she showed up, and fortunately she

1316
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: did not.

1317
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 7: We are on your side, Op, I believe you, Op,

1318
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 7: but I'm just like, I would love to see how

1319
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 7: outrageous the other person is. And now I'm like ninety

1320
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 7: five percent that you are correct. I just want to

1321
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 7: since there's another perspective out there, I want to see it.

1322
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 7: That's all I want.

1323
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: As of today, she still tried now and then to

1324
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: have updates on our lives. She burrates him on social media,

1325
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 2: insulting him, telling lies like he calls her with mute

1326
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: calls just to hear her voice. And we know all

1327
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: of that because she makes sure to tell mutual friends

1328
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: who are unfortunately caught in the crossfire. And there's nothing

1329
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 2: unfortunate about you being caught in our crossfire. When we

1330
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 2: go live every weekday at three PMPST on Facebook, YouTube, TikTok,

1331
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 2: and Twitch, just tap on our profile for all wondering.

1332
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: I know this is the truth because being Rod's friend before,

1333
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: I have literally lived all of this in real time

1334
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 2: with him. Oh God, I never used social media, but

1335
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: now I make sure to post at least once a

1336
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: month my husband's and my smiling faces while on our

1337
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: little adventures adorable, you know, just to let her know

1338
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: that this pair of unknown thighs and rod are still

1339
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 2: having fun together. Oh well, you know what, OPI I

1340
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 2: hope you guys have a beautiful life together and you

1341
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: get some sort of legally binding thing that prevents this

1342
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: woman from definition coming you. I don't know if you

1343
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: can really sue her for defamation or prevent her from

1344
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: speaking on you see if you can, but make it

1345
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 2: so that if she gets within like fifty feet of you,

1346
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 2: like you can have her arrested. Because she sounds borderline dangerous. Yeah,

1347
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 2: she sounds like she's capable of doing something completely unhinged. Yeah,

1348
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,479
Speaker 2: so keep that in mind.

1349
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 7: But that's all we got for you on that. At

1350
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 7: the end of that story, my husband's ex wife demanded

1351
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 7: I sell my house? Should we could buy her a

1352
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 7: new one?

1353
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 2: I mean it's only fair.

1354
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 7: She's mathing bro throwaway account. I thirty two female have

1355
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 7: been married to a forty male for two years. He

1356
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 7: brought two kids into the marriage, and I have one

1357
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 7: of my own, total three. We don't have any children together.

1358
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 7: By the way, this comes from Frosty Tier thirty seven

1359
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 7: eighty eight on the r slash Okay story Tom Sebright. So,

1360
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 7: my husband was previously married and has been divorced for

1361
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 7: about a decade. His kids live with their mother nearby,

1362
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 7: like twenty minutes away. Initially she showed some pretty petty behavior,

1363
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 7: but nothing major. She's very entitled and judgmental. She often

1364
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 7: made snider me working too much, et cetera. She would

1365
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 7: make contrasting statements about me and my husband's marriage compared

1366
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 7: to hers, to the point where one day I told

1367
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 7: her that her relationship with my husband was over and

1368
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 7: she needed to move on. My husband backed me up

1369
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 7: and she stopped her ways. I honestly don't think she

1370
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 7: is over him, but that has nothing to do with me.

1371
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 7: She's unemployed since getting fired fifteen years ago, whoa, and

1372
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 7: relies on her kids to get more time and money

1373
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 7: from my husband.

1374
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: Dude, that's a whack.

1375
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 7: She's been unwell lately, not maintaining her health effectively, and

1376
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 7: have been using her condition to collect sympathy points from

1377
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 7: my husband, asking him to be there at doctor appointments

1378
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 7: of course, to watch the kids while she's there, asking

1379
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 7: him for rides constantly because she doesn't feel safe driving.

1380
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 7: She's always wanted to attack long when we take the

1381
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 7: kids out. She has a boyfriend by the way.

1382
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is I don't like this. It's like you

1383
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 2: need to drive, You need someone to give you a

1384
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: ride because you don't feel safe driving. Hey, uber lift,

1385
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 2: Oh I can't for that. Get a job. It's been

1386
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 2: fifteen years.

1387
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 7: Lately, she's been suggesting to my husband that she isn't

1388
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 7: well enough to take care of her children right now.

1389
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 7: They have shared custody and they are with us every

1390
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 7: other weekend and during school vacations. She told my husband

1391
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,959
Speaker 7: I should sell my house, which I bought before we met,

1392
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,439
Speaker 7: to downgrade and buy a smaller home, and to build

1393
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 7: her a tiny house on the land close to us

1394
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 7: to provide more support for her and the kids. Excuse me,

1395
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 7: the level of entitlement you have here? Why do you

1396
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 7: think you deserve all this?

1397
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: Something doesn't add up here, because how is she she's

1398
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: jobless for fifteen years. How does she have the primary

1399
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: custody of those kids with no job for fifteen years.

1400
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's gonna be something else there.

1401
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 7: I don't know, dude. I was flabberyasted that he would

1402
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 7: even mention this to me. I couldn't understand why he

1403
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 7: needed to sell my house to accommodate her. I offered

1404
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 7: to have the kids live with us, but she'd gone,

1405
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 7: stating that she prefers to stay close to the kids

1406
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 7: and doesn't trust us to raise them.

1407
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: Dude.

1408
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 7: She has a boyfriend and a family nearby, but insists

1409
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 7: on receiving care only from us, dude, even saying that

1410
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 7: my husband made vows to her before he made vows

1411
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 7: to me.

1412
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: Dude, that is okay, you said earlier you think she's

1413
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: still not over your husband. Bro, she just threw their

1414
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: wedding vows back in your face, so.

1415
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 7: Pete, what the heck? Dude. I feel totally disrespected, don't

1416
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 7: want to sell my house, and don't want to have

1417
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 7: a crown woman free loading off of me. I believe

1418
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 7: she should rely on her existing support system. Boom, Yeah,

1419
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 7: total sense. Some of my in laws say I'm just

1420
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 7: being selfish and don't need such a big house anyways.

1421
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 7: My husband hasn't expressed anything either way, which is annoying.

1422
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 7: I want to stand my ground, but I'm starting to

1423
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 7: feel like an a hole because she is sick.

1424
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: Updates.

1425
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 7: Thanks everyone, I think I need to stand my ground here.

1426
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 7: I'll speak with him tonight. And we'll update. I'm really

1427
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 7: tired of the sex and don't think she should be

1428
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 7: the main character in our lives anymore. I want to

1429
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 7: put this here because a lot of people have been

1430
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 7: asking why my husband won't speak up. This was my

1431
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 7: response to posts. He says he doesn't want to be

1432
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 7: a deadbeat father because his father was, and she often

1433
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 7: threatens to not allow him to see them.

1434
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: How does she have that power though, That's what I

1435
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: don't understand.

1436
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1437
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like she should be able to like

1438
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: throw threats around like that.

1439
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 7: I don't understand either. Even at our wedding, she would

1440
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 7: not allow the kids to be there unless she was

1441
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 7: also invited, and we have an update. I spoke to

1442
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 7: my husband and told him that there was absolutely no

1443
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 7: way I was going to sell my house. I told

1444
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 7: him my house was an investment that I planned to

1445
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 7: one day past it to my children as an asset.

1446
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 7: That he and his parents and his ex are dead

1447
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 7: wrong for suggesting I sell it. I said, if his

1448
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 7: parents have something to say, then they can build a

1449
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 7: tiny home for her on their ten acres of land.

1450
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 7: He agreed and said he's been feeling bad that he

1451
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 7: was entertaining the idea, but his ex was guilting him

1452
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 7: because of her condition. She has MS. I told him

1453
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 7: that he will no longer be supplementing her lifestyle and

1454
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,919
Speaker 7: no more running errands. I'm his wife and I should

1455
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 7: be priority. I told him that he has to call

1456
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 7: her in front of me and tell her this. He

1457
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 7: called her and told her that he will no longer

1458
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 7: be used as a placeholder for her boyfriend and she

1459
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 7: needed to stop trying to manipulate everyone. She said it

1460
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 7: was unfortunate that I was acting insecure and that I

1461
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 7: was interfering with her healthy co parenting relationship. She said

1462
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 7: I was young and immature and should consider their kids

1463
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,439
Speaker 7: and she knew that this would happen one day.

1464
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, of course it's gonna happen one day

1465
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: when you're just like an overbearing, demanding person who's like,

1466
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: by the way, the kids can't go anywhere without me, yeah,

1467
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 2: and by the way, the kids can't do this without

1468
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 2: me or do that. That'd mean blah blah blah blah

1469
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: blah blah.

1470
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 7: I told her that she needs to get off her

1471
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 7: lazy butt and take care of herself and her kids

1472
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 7: and stop freeloading off everyone. I told her that she

1473
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 7: needed to be focusing on her attention on her current

1474
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 7: relationship because that is her best shot at a decent

1475
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 7: future because we are pulling back effective immediately, she immediately

1476
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 7: started crying and said that she was feeling sick and

1477
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 7: needs to go to the emergency room. Oh no, and

1478
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,799
Speaker 7: needed to end the conversation to protect herself and her health.

1479
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: Dude, I hate being the guy. I don't want to

1480
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 2: be the guy who calls out the person with chronic illness.

1481
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: But like, it really reads like she's hiding behind her

1482
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 2: chronic illness as a get out of jail free card

1483
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 2: for whenever she is pressed to a point of no return.

1484
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 7: And we couldn't really get into outlining all the boundaries

1485
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 7: before she just hung off and blocked both of us. Wow,

1486
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 7: she really is hiding behind it. I typed out an

1487
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 7: email and copied all parties involved and sent it to her.

1488
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 7: I'm so mad right now. I'm seeing red. And if

1489
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 7: you want to see red from the Okay storytime members,

1490
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 7: come and join us live every weekday at three PMPSDWO

1491
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 7: on YouTube, Facebook, and Twitch.

1492
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah we might be live right now.

1493
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 7: I want to provide clarity. She was recently diagnosed, maybe

1494
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 7: a year ago.

1495
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm backtracking immediately to why didn't you have

1496
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 2: a job for the fourteen years before you were diagnosed

1497
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 2: with MS.

1498
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 7: She has been manipulating since I met her, but has

1499
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 7: been more invasive after her diagnosis. She has been out

1500
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 7: of work for fifteen years, which is the only reason

1501
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,839
Speaker 7: I call her lazy. She was on every government subsidy

1502
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 7: we could get her on. I helped facilitate this when

1503
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 7: she was diagnosed, but she keeps wanting and expecting more.

1504
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 7: I admit I felt bad for her for a long time,

1505
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 7: which is why I let it go on for so long.

1506
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 7: But asking me to sell my house is beyond my limits.

1507
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 7: She has been diagnosed with US for a year, but

1508
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 7: has been milking it.

1509
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: So it's like immediately started milking ito. You know, it

1510
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 2: can progress at different rates, but like regardless, you know,

1511
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: not having a job for fourteen years I think paints

1512
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 2: the perfect picture of like what kind of person she is. Yeah, yeah,

1513
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 2: if she can float by on something, if she can

1514
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: coast on something, she'll do it. Yeah. And as soon

1515
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 2: as she got this diagnosis, which is not good, it's terrible.

1516
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 7: No, yeah, yeah, yeah, but she also saw.

1517
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 2: The other side of that, which is, ah, I can

1518
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: weaponize this. It's my opportunity to Now I have the

1519
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: ultimate get out of jail free card, which is I

1520
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 2: have MS. Yeah, you have to give me a ride

1521
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 2: because I have MS. That is gross. Good.

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Speaker 7: Let me know what you guys think of the comments.

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Speaker 7: Let's see the story and episode.

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Speaker 2: We love you and we'll see you tomorrow.