WEBVTT - Steph Curry gets Warriors win over Suns + 76ers-Bulls, Thunder-Clippers, 'Mind the Game' reactions

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<v Speaker 1>The volume. All right, welcome to hoops tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>You're at the volume heavy winsay everybody, hope all if

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are having a great week so far, gonna

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<v Speaker 2>jam pack show for you guys today. We're gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>three instant reactions to last night's slate. The Golden State

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<v Speaker 2>Warriors get back on track with a big win over

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<v Speaker 2>the Phoenix Suns. Got some interesting lineup data and some

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on the way that Steve Kurr has been structuring

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<v Speaker 2>the rotation to this point in the season. After that,

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<v Speaker 2>an incredibly entertaining game between the Chicago Bowls and the

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<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia seventy six Ers. Is the Sixers jump all over

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<v Speaker 2>them in the first half, scoring seventy five points, but

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<v Speaker 2>get held to just thirty six in the second half

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<v Speaker 2>as the Chicago Bulls get a bunch of big stops,

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<v Speaker 2>holding the Sixers scoreless over the final four minutes, and

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<v Speaker 2>change end up winning on a Nicola Vucevich corner three

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<v Speaker 2>out of the right corner. We're gonna be breaking down

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<v Speaker 2>that game from the perspective of both teams. At the

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<v Speaker 2>tail end of the show. We've got the Clippers obviously

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<v Speaker 2>down Kawhi on the tail end of a back to

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<v Speaker 2>back but dropping a game against the Oklahoma City Thunder.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to zoom in in some detail on the

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<v Speaker 2>second half run from the Thunder in that game, just

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<v Speaker 2>the absolute avalanche that they closed that game with, and

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<v Speaker 2>zooming in on some of their depth of offensive talent

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<v Speaker 2>as Aj Mitchell really closed the deal spamming ball screens

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<v Speaker 2>and getting great shots every single time. And then finally

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<v Speaker 2>before we get out of here today, Steph Curry made

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise appearance on the Mind the Game podcast with

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James and Steve Nash. I listened to it last night,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of really interesting stuff I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get into from that as well. You guys know the

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk some basketball. So the Warriors had

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<v Speaker 2>dropped two in a row to end last week, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were both pretty bad losses. The one in Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like a textbook NBA track game, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're on the road, Milwaukee's without Yannis. That naturally

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<v Speaker 2>leads to like a natural like shift and effort, where

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<v Speaker 2>like the main guys for Golden State aren't going to

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<v Speaker 2>be as keyed up as they normally would be. And

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<v Speaker 2>obviously for Milwaukee, the guys down the roster are all

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<v Speaker 2>getting a lot more opportunity and they're all fired up

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<v Speaker 2>and they want an opportunity to win. Ryan Rollins ended

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<v Speaker 2>up having a career night. Right, that sort of thing

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<v Speaker 2>will happen in the NBA. But the Pacers game that

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<v Speaker 2>was brutal. A winless Pacers team down a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>guys in Indiana. The Warriors were up by eleven with

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<v Speaker 2>less than six minutes left, and they just fell victim

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<v Speaker 2>to that classic Pacers comeback where they just never stopped pressuring,

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<v Speaker 2>they never stop attacking, hit some big shots late, Steph

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<v Speaker 2>goes cold down the stretch and the Pacers end up

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<v Speaker 2>coming back to steal that game. So a rough little

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<v Speaker 2>stretch to end the week for the Warriors, but they

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<v Speaker 2>got back on track last night with a nice professional

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<v Speaker 2>win versus the Phoenix Suns. I kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>natural give and take of the way that Steve Kerr

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<v Speaker 2>has structured the starting lineup versus the bench units we

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<v Speaker 2>saw last year Moses Moody and Brandon Pajemski get a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of minutes with the starters, especially as they would

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<v Speaker 2>go smaller with Draymond at center right. It was usually

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<v Speaker 2>Steph with Jimmy and Draymond with pods and Moses Moody

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<v Speaker 2>at the two and the three. And one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that I kind of like it with this structure

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<v Speaker 2>where now they're going with two bigs, You've got Kaminga

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<v Speaker 2>in with the starters, and Quinton Post is starting. Presumably

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be al Horford at many points during the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Right with that lineup, what I like is, like, specifically

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<v Speaker 2>Quinton Post is more of like a play finisher, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's going to pop out of ball screens, He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to keep the ball moving side to side if

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<v Speaker 2>he gets left open on pick and pops, like he

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<v Speaker 2>got three wide open pick and pop threes to start

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<v Speaker 2>this game. As Mark Williams was really aggressive on the

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<v Speaker 2>ball and pick and roll and sagging off and help,

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<v Speaker 2>and Quinton just kept making him pay with pick and

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<v Speaker 2>pop threes, right or spacing threes like that is a

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<v Speaker 2>play finishing aspect that he brings. But he's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be like super aggressive with questionable shots, right. So

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<v Speaker 2>it allows like the main guys to kind of play

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<v Speaker 2>their game. And then when the bench guys come in

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<v Speaker 2>with Healed with a Moses Moody, with Brandon Pajemski, those

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<v Speaker 2>guys are a little bit more aggressive in their read

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<v Speaker 2>and react. They want to look for their shot, and

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<v Speaker 2>so those guys when they come in with the bench groups,

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<v Speaker 2>they have an opportunity to be really aggressive. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of liking the natural give and take of

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<v Speaker 2>having the bigger lineup with Kaminga and Quintin poster Al

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<v Speaker 2>Horford with the starters, and then bringing in all of

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<v Speaker 2>your super aggressive guys off the bench to come in

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<v Speaker 2>and not have to worry about necessarily getting the ball

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<v Speaker 2>to Steph, but just being aggressive and playing their games.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, that lineup, the lineup with the starters,

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<v Speaker 2>so Steph, Jimmy Draymond with Jonathan Kamina and Quinton Post

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<v Speaker 2>is plus twenty eight points net in seventy five possessions

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<v Speaker 2>to start the year. Now, that same lineup with Horford

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<v Speaker 2>has been bad so far, but it's a super small sample,

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<v Speaker 2>only thirty two possessions, and I do believe it will

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<v Speaker 2>be much better in the long run. But then those

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<v Speaker 2>bench guys come in, right, they're a little more shoot first,

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<v Speaker 2>they can be aggressive.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that dynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Brandon Pajemski comes in and immediately starts generating buckets.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets like a little mid range jumper along the baseline.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets a rip through out of the right corner

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<v Speaker 2>where he gets a reverse layup. He hits a little

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<v Speaker 2>mid range turnaround in the middle. He runs the ball

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<v Speaker 2>screen with Trace Jackson Davis and hits him for a

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<v Speaker 2>lob dunk like Mose. This Moodie comes in and starts

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<v Speaker 2>being super aggressive. It's himself going on an offensive rebound

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<v Speaker 2>put back. In transition, he hits a three coming off

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<v Speaker 2>of a pin down from Tray Jackson Davis. He hits

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<v Speaker 2>another three off the dribble in transition, hits another three

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<v Speaker 2>off of a skip in transition from Pat Spencer. He

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<v Speaker 2>just comes in gunning right. I also really liked Tray

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson Davis with that group. He was just really active yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>But that lineup, the Moses Moody, Brandon Pajemski, Buddy Healed trio,

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<v Speaker 2>just those three guys on the floor together in forty

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<v Speaker 2>nine possessions to start the season, a plus forty five

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<v Speaker 2>net rating. They have been very good to start the year,

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<v Speaker 2>and now Phoenix ended up cutting it to seven in

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<v Speaker 2>the early part of the fourth quarter. Devin Booker, who's

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<v Speaker 2>been fantastic to start the year, was really good in

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<v Speaker 2>that third quarter. They kind of worked their way back

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<v Speaker 2>into the game. But Steph really helps blow it open

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<v Speaker 2>with a little run there right in the early fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>He runs off of a weak side screen off the

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<v Speaker 2>left wing where and we're gonna talk about this a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more when we get to that mind the

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<v Speaker 2>game segment at the tail end of the show, but

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<v Speaker 2>just textbook Steph gravity come off of a Draymon pinned

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<v Speaker 2>down on the left side. Draymond slips out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Both guys run with Steph. That forces Moody's man to

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<v Speaker 2>tag Draymond as he's slipping out of it. Draymond throws

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful over the head pass to Moses Moody in

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<v Speaker 2>the corner. Boom nails a three. Then Steph gets also

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<v Speaker 2>a guitar on a switch toasts him off the dribble,

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<v Speaker 2>gets a driving layup. There was a hilarious play where

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<v Speaker 2>there's an impromptu double team thrown by Grayson Allen out

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<v Speaker 2>of the left corner, and so he double teams I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was Draymond if I remember correctly, and so

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<v Speaker 2>Buddy he or Moses Brandon Pajemski is wide open on

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<v Speaker 2>the left wing and he's just staying in there because

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<v Speaker 2>Grayson Allen double teamed right and Steph Curry's not even

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<v Speaker 2>ten feet away to Brandon's right or right at the

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<v Speaker 2>top of the key right.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Hilarious because you've got Jordan Goodwin who's hugged up to

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<v Speaker 2>Steph and he's just staring at Brandon Pajemski not maybe

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<v Speaker 2>eight nine feet away, like he could literally take one

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<v Speaker 2>and get a good contest. And he literally just stares

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<v Speaker 2>at Brandon Pajemski and lets him take a wide open

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<v Speaker 2>three on the left wing that he ends up hitting. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>on the one hand, it's like that's probably the right read,

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<v Speaker 2>like you should just stay hugged up on Steph and

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<v Speaker 2>dare Brandon Pejemski to hit the shot. But it's just

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<v Speaker 2>hilarious done the last to see a team essentially refuse

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<v Speaker 2>to make a defensive rotation out of fear of leaving

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<v Speaker 2>Steph Curry open. And then Moses Moody basically ice the game,

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<v Speaker 2>putting them up by nineteen by hitting another contested three

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<v Speaker 2>out of the left corner play where he might have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten fouled as you've got stripped down in the pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Moses Moody hit five threes in the game, that fifth one,

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<v Speaker 2>putting them up by nineteen. A nice bounce back win

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<v Speaker 2>for Golden State after a rough end to last week.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a brutal early season schedule again. Back to

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<v Speaker 2>back Tonight in Sacramento, they have a bunch of back

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<v Speaker 2>to backs here to start the season. Sacramento has been

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more feisty in their last couple of games.

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<v Speaker 2>They went in and beat Milwaukee, hanging one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five on him, and they hung tough with Denver

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<v Speaker 2>the other night, So it's going to be a challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Lavine's scoring the ball at an extremely high level.

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<v Speaker 2>Demonis Bonus is finally waking up from his slumber to

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<v Speaker 2>start the season, so it's going to be a tougher

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<v Speaker 2>game to It's a tougher game than you would think

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<v Speaker 2>on the schedule tonight, on the tail end of a

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<v Speaker 2>back to back in Sacramento. Warriors fans, stay tuned for

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<v Speaker 2>someone you know has a game gambling problem and wants help,

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<v Speaker 2>call one eight hundred and nine with it gambling problem

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<v Speaker 2>called one eight hundred gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 2>or Virginia. Sixers Bulls just an absolutely wild game. Came

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<v Speaker 2>down to a very simple dynamic. To start the game,

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago got absolutely fried by Tyrese Maxi.

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<v Speaker 1>And Joe Lmbi.

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<v Speaker 2>They had twenty one and the rest of the Sixers

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<v Speaker 2>had twenty four. Playing off of the attention those guys

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<v Speaker 2>were getting, they gave up forty five points in the

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<v Speaker 2>first quarter, seventy five in the first half, and then

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<v Speaker 2>in the fourth quarter the Bulls just completely locked them up.

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<v Speaker 2>Maxi had eight points in the fourth quarter and Beid

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<v Speaker 2>had zero. The rest of the Sixers has had eight

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<v Speaker 2>as they held him to just sixteen points in the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter, just thirty six points total in the second half.

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<v Speaker 2>So tail two halves defensively for the Chicago Bulls, and

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<v Speaker 2>the first quarter, Philly just kind of methodically beat all

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<v Speaker 2>of Chicago's coverages. In two man game with Max and Embiid,

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<v Speaker 2>and Embiid was also giving some problems to one on one.

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<v Speaker 2>So first possession of the game, and be just drives

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<v Speaker 2>at Vusovich. Vu gets his left hand kind of in

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<v Speaker 2>on Embiid's right arm, and you know, Embiid, he's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best rifters in the league, so he just

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<v Speaker 2>immediately throws up like a running jump shot from like

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen feet away from the basket, gets to the foul line.

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<v Speaker 2>They go right to maximb two man game, first possession,

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<v Speaker 2>Vouch is a little too far back. Maxi hits a

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<v Speaker 2>pull up three. Second possession, Vouch steps up higher to

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<v Speaker 2>the level to take away the pull up three. Maxi

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<v Speaker 2>hits em Bead in the pocket, and Bead hits a

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<v Speaker 2>little jumper in the short role. Then Vouch tries to switch.

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<v Speaker 2>So again we're methodically working through the coverages. A lower

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<v Speaker 2>drop than a higher drop. Now a switch. On the switch, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Tyres Maxi just takes vouch out to the perimeter and

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<v Speaker 2>hits a pull up three right in his face. Then

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<v Speaker 2>Embiid posts up Vusovic and draws a second defender, hits

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<v Speaker 2>Tyres Maxi for a kickout three. Then Embid beats Vucevic

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<v Speaker 2>on a pick and pop three at the top of

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<v Speaker 2>the key. Int to make matters worse, they were getting

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<v Speaker 2>crushed on the margins during that stretch. Philly was getting

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of offensive rebounds that were leading to kickout threes.

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<v Speaker 2>They were turning Chicago over and getting run out layups

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<v Speaker 2>and dunks.

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<v Speaker 1>They ended up.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking a twenty one point lead in the first quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>just jumped all over Chicago. They went back and forth

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<v Speaker 2>for a little while from there until the mid third quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>and right in that mid third quarter run Chicago just

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<v Speaker 2>massively ramped up their intensity. They forced seven turnovers just

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<v Speaker 2>in the third quarter. They had seventeen transition points just

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<v Speaker 2>in the third quarter. Remember, this has been the best

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<v Speaker 2>transition team in the league to start the season. They

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<v Speaker 2>are averaging thirty six points per game just in transition,

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<v Speaker 2>which leads to the NBA decent margin two. They're about

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<v Speaker 2>three points over the second best team another forty five

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<v Speaker 2>points just last night in transition. In total, over the

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<v Speaker 2>course of the full forty eight minutes, they also completely

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<v Speaker 2>flipped the script on the offensive glass. They became the

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<v Speaker 2>team that's to get those extra possessions. They had nine

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<v Speaker 2>offensive rebounds in just the second half, so just a

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<v Speaker 2>complete and total reversal of just the intensity and all

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff and the margins that they were struggling with

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of the game. They finally started to

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<v Speaker 2>have a little bit of success guarding the Embiid Maxi

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<v Speaker 2>two man game. They settled on a coverage that they liked,

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<v Speaker 2>which was basically just bring Vucevic all the way up

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<v Speaker 2>to the level to get the ball out of Tyrese

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<v Speaker 2>Maxi's hands, and then they were coming early in help

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<v Speaker 2>like an early tag and really packing the paint. They

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<v Speaker 2>prayed on one of the weaknesses from Tyrese Maxi and

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<v Speaker 2>Joel Embiid, which is they can be a bit shoot first,

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<v Speaker 2>which isn't the right read when the team's guarding the

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<v Speaker 2>action three on two. The read there is to get

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<v Speaker 2>the ball to the other side of the floor right

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<v Speaker 2>like on the first possession during that run that started

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the third quarter. They come up

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<v Speaker 2>to the level, Maxi splits the screen and Josh Gidty's

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<v Speaker 2>just sitting there waiting as that third defender in help

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<v Speaker 2>and instead of making the kickout, Maxi just tries to

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<v Speaker 2>shoot through Giddy at the rim and he smokes the layup.

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<v Speaker 2>The very next possession, Joel Embiid slips out of the

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<v Speaker 2>at the level coverage, Maxi hits him in the pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of making the read, he just runs over Trey

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<v Speaker 2>Jones and commits an offensive foul. Now, Maxi still had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to say. He's just been unbelievable to start

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<v Speaker 2>the year. Kept getting downhill on ball screens and hitting

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<v Speaker 2>little floaters and hitting shots. But in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bulls really started to swarm him when he was

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<v Speaker 2>getting downhill in those ball screens, and Tyree started forcing

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<v Speaker 2>the issue a little bit, which has been unusual for him.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a season low five assists and last night's game,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he finally started to miss some shots as

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<v Speaker 2>they started to swarm him, especially towards the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the game. He started settling for some tougher step back

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<v Speaker 2>jump shots and he was missing them. Several bulls got

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<v Speaker 2>key one on one stops against Maxie late where they

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<v Speaker 2>were gapping forcing him into those pull ups and he

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<v Speaker 2>was missing them, and they were tough for shots that

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<v Speaker 2>he was missing down the stretcher. It was a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of them getting gassed, which we'll talk about in

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, and a little bit of the shot difficulty

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<v Speaker 2>kind of increasing as the game went along. And Nikola Vusevich,

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<v Speaker 2>who had struggled mightily against Embid early in the game,

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<v Speaker 2>got five one on one stops against Joel Embiid just

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<v Speaker 2>in the second half of the fourth quarter, just in

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<v Speaker 2>that final minute, final stretch of minutes there at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the game, five one on one stops against Embid.

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<v Speaker 2>He did something that is usually a death sentence with Embiid.

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<v Speaker 2>He was very aggressive with ball pressure. He was reaching

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<v Speaker 2>in and jabbing at the ball. As we know, that

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<v Speaker 2>usually ends in Joel Embiid going to the foul line

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<v Speaker 2>right like he catches you with your hand in the

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<v Speaker 2>cookie jar and he just does those little ripped throughs

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<v Speaker 2>and gathers where he can get fouls right. But Tavuoch's credit,

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<v Speaker 2>he was surgical with it. He was jabbing with reaches

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<v Speaker 2>but quickly getting his hands out before Embiid could do

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<v Speaker 2>anything about it, and it flustered him. It disrupted his rhythm.

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<v Speaker 2>He poked the ball away from him a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 2>one on like a step through where he's actually going

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<v Speaker 2>up to take a shot, and right when he brought

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<v Speaker 2>the ball up into the pocket, Boots just came down

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<v Speaker 2>and slapped it out of his hands. He poked it

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<v Speaker 2>away from him from behind on a possession where he

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<v Speaker 2>kind of reached around from the opposite side. He just

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<v Speaker 2>dominated that matchup late in the game, and Embiid was

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<v Speaker 2>missing his jumper as he was just kind of getting flustered.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on the other end of the floor, just

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<v Speaker 2>really high level play from Vussevich and from Josh Giddy

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<v Speaker 2>like Vooch did a bunch of damage around the room.

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<v Speaker 2>He killed the Sixers in the second half, rolling out

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<v Speaker 2>of ball screens and getting offensive rebounds as he would

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<v Speaker 2>get like inside position on the guard or maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>just rolling hard on a harder drive and just getting

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<v Speaker 2>an offensive rebound. He got a big lefty hook in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter over his right shoulder. Josh Giddy was

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<v Speaker 2>getting his kind of classic big guard drives for floaters

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<v Speaker 2>and layups and then to win the game, a very

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<v Speaker 2>interesting kind of floor setup for Chicago. Instead of going

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<v Speaker 2>to that two man game using Vouch as the screener,

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<v Speaker 2>they end up tucking Vouch in the right corner down

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<v Speaker 2>by one it's one eleven to one ten, and they

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<v Speaker 2>situate Vouch in the right corner, which basically forces Embiid

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<v Speaker 2>to make decision right like, if he's gonna help at

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<v Speaker 2>the basket as a rim protector, you're gonna concede a

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<v Speaker 2>kickout three to Vouch. And so the action they end

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<v Speaker 2>up running is they run a ghost screen, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Gitty on the left wing. They have Kevin Herder

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<v Speaker 2>come up, who's being guarded by VJ Edgecomb, and it

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<v Speaker 2>works to perfection. Kevin Herder slips out VJ Edgecomb doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to switch. He stays glued up to Kevin Herder,

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<v Speaker 2>which causes Kelly Ubray, who's guarding Josh Gitty, to open

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<v Speaker 2>his stance just a little too much to Josh Gitty's

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<v Speaker 2>left hand and Josh just hits that gap. Hits that

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<v Speaker 2>gap as the natural kind of ghost screen opening that

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<v Speaker 2>happens is that switch doesn't occur and Kelly opens up

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<v Speaker 2>his stance, drives left, and Bead steps over to help

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<v Speaker 2>and be got some good pressure on the pass, but

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<v Speaker 2>Giddy made a really nice, like jumping out of bounds

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<v Speaker 2>like lefty hook pass to Vucevich in the corner. He

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<v Speaker 2>nails the corner three. He's been torching teams in spot

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<v Speaker 2>up situations to start this year. He nails the corner

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<v Speaker 2>three that puts Chicago up by two. Quentin Grimes actually

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<v Speaker 2>got a decent look to win the game coming off

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<v Speaker 2>of a pin down at the top of the key,

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<v Speaker 2>but he ended up missing. Now the Bulls are six

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<v Speaker 2>and one and in sole possession of the top seed

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<v Speaker 2>in the Eastern Conference is they come back to win

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<v Speaker 2>that game. This is very much a margin team, to

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<v Speaker 2>be clear. Like they're fourteenth and half court offense. That's average.

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<v Speaker 2>They're eighth and half court defense, that's solid. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>six and one because they're dominating in half court execution.

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<v Speaker 2>They dominate in the margins, and they've been good in

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<v Speaker 2>clutch situations to end games. They dominate the transition game.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a ten point per game margin on average

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<v Speaker 2>every single night in transition points they get thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>Their opponents get twenty six. It's like starting ten to

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<v Speaker 2>ozero on the scoreboard, just in transition points. They're a

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<v Speaker 2>good rebounding team. They do a good job of generating

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<v Speaker 2>open three point looks. Like they're shooting over forty percent

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<v Speaker 2>from three to start the season, and that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be hard to maintain.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know me, I hate when.

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<v Speaker 2>People just attribute that thing to variants, like variance plays

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<v Speaker 2>a role, but it's it's further down the list than

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<v Speaker 2>some of the other things that determine shot result. And

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<v Speaker 2>let's give them some credit for running quality offense. The

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<v Speaker 2>Bulls generate eighteen unguarded catch and shoot threes per game,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the sixth most in the entire NBA. They

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<v Speaker 2>move the ball well and they get good shots. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is where we need to talk about Josh Gitty

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<v Speaker 2>and Nikola Vusovich. The two of them are just a

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<v Speaker 2>really difficult duo to guard, and they're getting great shots

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<v Speaker 2>out of ball screens and out of post ups. Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Giddy continued his absurd start to the season with twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine points, fifteen rebounds, and twelve assists last night. He's

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<v Speaker 2>up to twenty three, ten and nine on the season

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<v Speaker 2>for his averages on fifty percent from the field, forty

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<v Speaker 2>two percent from three, seventy five percent from the line.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fifty nine percent in true shooting. And then Vuch's

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<v Speaker 2>torching teams and ball screens and playmaking out of the

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<v Speaker 2>post and spacing the floor with the shooting. He's averaging

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen points, twelve rebounds, and four assists to start the year,

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<v Speaker 2>sixty nine percent true shot shooting, forty eight percent from

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<v Speaker 2>three on four point four three point attempts per game,

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<v Speaker 2>doing a ton of damage on spot ups and especially

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<v Speaker 2>in transition trailing the play. The spot up situations kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like what you saw in that final possession is

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<v Speaker 2>a great example. And then in the post, he's run

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<v Speaker 2>thirty post ups to start the year, and he's been

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<v Speaker 2>getting a one to seventeen offensive rating on his post

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<v Speaker 2>ups including passes. Very much looking like a guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>in a contract year that wants to get paid one

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<v Speaker 2>more time, he's ooping his ass off. He is thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five years old, so I'm sure that will play a

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<v Speaker 2>role in those contract negotiations come come into the equation.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's playing some great basketball to start this year,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the Bulls are just getting a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of their success out of playing at an insane pace

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<v Speaker 2>in transition some really high three high level three point

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<v Speaker 2>shooting and clutch play right that transition piece, it just

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<v Speaker 2>requires so much effort on defense and running the floor

0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:58.159
<v Speaker 2>that when they look flat, like in that first half

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<v Speaker 2>last night or in the second against the Knicks as

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<v Speaker 2>another example, it can come apart for them because they're

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<v Speaker 2>not an the elite half court team at least to

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<v Speaker 2>start this season, right, But when they are playing at

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<v Speaker 2>a high intensity, it's really hard to keep up with

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<v Speaker 2>them and how fast they run up and down the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reality is, as we know, teams will start

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<v Speaker 2>to scout that they'll be prepared for that transition attack.

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<v Speaker 2>The three point shooting will come down a bit that

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<v Speaker 2>will put a heavier strain on their half court units

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<v Speaker 2>on both ends of the floor, and that's when we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get a better feel for just how good.

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<v Speaker 1>This Bulls team.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, over on hard Rock Bet, the

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<v Speaker 2>Bulls are currently plus three thousand to win the East.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the tenth best line in the conference. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that was super interesting. I don't think they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to finish the years the one seed or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 2>but tenth best odds is an interesting value bet, and again,

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<v Speaker 2>all of our lines are provided by hard Rock Bet. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>on the Sixers front, I was honestly super impressed by

0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.439
<v Speaker 2>them in the first half. I thought Embiid and Maxi

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<v Speaker 2>just tried to do too much down the stretch and

0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:03.640
<v Speaker 2>they kind of gassed themselves out, like a basic kind

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<v Speaker 2>of balance. To explain this to you, guys, those guys

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<v Speaker 2>took twenty six shots in the second half and the

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 2>rest of the team took only nineteen in.

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<v Speaker 1>The first half. There was better balance.

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Those two guys took twenty one shots and the rest

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 2>of the team took twenty eight shots. And I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>especially down the stretch, they just kind of hero balled,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they were both cold on their jumpers

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:26.920
<v Speaker 2>and no one else was in any kind of rhythm. Again,

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Quentin Grimes gets that wide open look late, but that

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<v Speaker 2>was like the only shot attempt he got down the

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 2>stretch of that game. I also just thought they looked exhausted.

0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.240
<v Speaker 2>They weren't getting the lift they needed on those jump shots,

0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:38.399
<v Speaker 2>and that's something that can happen when there's not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of variety and you're just playing a lot of

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:42.879
<v Speaker 2>that one on one, it's seventy five points in the

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<v Speaker 2>first half and just thirty six points in the second half.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was just like a weird kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like step back for them offensively in terms of their

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 2>ball movement and like they're driving kick attack compared to

0:23:54.320 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 2>what they were doing earlier in the season. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>So the thunder in their late game run against the Clippers,

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 2>the Clippers controlled the first two thirds of that game

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:10.880
<v Speaker 2>or so, James Harden was excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>They were shooting the ball really well as a team.

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<v Speaker 1>They got one.

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<v Speaker 2>Point six y nine points per catch and shoot jump

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 2>shot in the first half. But Oklahoma City closes the

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 2>game on a sixty one to thirty seven run to

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 2>go up by as much as twenty five before winning

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 2>the game by nineteen. It got sparked by a couple

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 2>of those classic like defense to transition sequences, So like

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Alex Cruz, So they were running this like little cross

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:40.679
<v Speaker 2>screen for Zubots to try to get him in the

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<v Speaker 2>post on the block, and you run the cross screen

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 2>essentially to either force a switch so Zubots gets a

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 2>smaller defender to post up, or if you're going to trail,

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 2>so if that guy like fights over the top of

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 2>the screen, Zubots now gets deep post position because instead

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 2>of having to back that guy down close to the basket,

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 2>he's already trailing him on his back side, so he

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<v Speaker 2>just runs over to the block and wherever he stops,

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 2>as long as he holds his ground, he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>get a good.

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<v Speaker 1>Deep post catch, right well.

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Crusoe spent a good amount of time in the second

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<v Speaker 2>half on Chris Dunn where he was able to roam

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<v Speaker 2>and do a bunch of damage, and then the rest

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 2>of the time he's on James Harden. Did a really

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 2>good job on James Harden as well, but on the

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 2>possessions with Chris Donn, he was doing a lot of

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 2>stunting off of him and just kind of being a

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 2>disruptive roamer, and he sparked the run the first play

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.239
<v Speaker 2>on that sixty one to thirty seven run, he ends

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<v Speaker 2>up peeling off of Chris Dunn as Zubots breaks open

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 2>on that little cross screen and he jumps back and

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 2>ends up deflecting the post entry pass that ends up

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 2>running out the other way for a Crusoe layup on

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:42.439
<v Speaker 2>the other end of the floor. Then Chet gets in

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 2>on the action. He gets two great contests, one on

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 2>a hard end floater where he steps up late, and

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<v Speaker 2>then another one on a Zubot's offensive rebound attempt as

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 2>he left Zubots to make the contest. Zoo got the rebound,

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.160
<v Speaker 2>but he recovered and got a great contest on Zoo

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 2>and forced another miss case on Wallace pays it off

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 2>with a big driving layup and trainransition the other way.

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<v Speaker 2>So stop turn or turnover, layup, stop layup, classic thunder

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:11.919
<v Speaker 2>defensive transition sequences that got the lead down from five

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 2>to one. And by the way, I want to shout

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 2>out Chet here because like Zoo won a lot of

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 2>battles on the glass in that game. I think he

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:20.479
<v Speaker 2>had four offensive rebounds, but Chet was battling with him,

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 2>and as a team they were doing a great job

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 2>of like gang rebounding in those situations and they won

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 2>some battles and Chet got some big defensive rebounds during

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:32.640
<v Speaker 2>that third quarter run. Then Shay goes on a little run.

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.679
<v Speaker 2>He attacks Harden in a guard guard screen. Harden defends

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 2>it like shit. Shae gets a wide open layup, he

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 2>gets Batoom in a guard guard screen hits him with

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 2>a quick dribble combination, hits a step back three over

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 2>the top. All of a sudden, Oklahoma City's up four.

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 2>The momentum is shifted. Clippers up five. Now the Thunder

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 2>are up four. He attacks Zu Bots in a ball screen,

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 2>makes a beautiful spin move over his left shoulder and

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 2>makes a kickout to Aaron Wiggins on the right wing.

0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 2>He hits a three bang right Bogdan Bogdanovich with a

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 2>quick couple of scissor dribbles right to left, gets to

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 2>the basket for a layup. The run is starting to

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 2>gain a ton of momentum. Now right Isaiah Joe comes

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.399
<v Speaker 2>in and hits a couple of threes, one off the dribble,

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 2>one off of a skip pass. Shay hits another pull

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 2>up three over Malcolm brogged into or over Bogdan Bogdanovitch

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:21.959
<v Speaker 2>excuse me to end the third quarter. All of a sudden,

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 2>the Thunder are up by eight going into the fourth quarter,

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 2>and it could have been worse too. Brook Lopez hit

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 2>a couple of bombs against pretty good contests, one against

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 2>jay Lynn Williams, who came in and got a great

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 2>contest on a Brook Lopez three at the top of

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 2>the key just hit a tough shot and then another

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 2>one where he pumped fake to get the defender off

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 2>his feet knock down a shot. Otherwise, the thunder could

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.679
<v Speaker 2>have been in big time control before we got to

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:47.679
<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter, but in that fourth quarter the thunder

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:51.640
<v Speaker 2>just completely slammed the door shut. Crusoe and Hartenstein combined

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.640
<v Speaker 2>for like a classic like Steph Curry action, like they

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>looked like Steph Curry and Draymond Green, where Crusoe's cutting

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 2>along the baseline. Hartenstein gets the ball and just throws

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 2>like a between the legs pass backwards to Crusoe running

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 2>out to the corner, and Cruso just running out to

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 2>his left side right left footwork just rises up and

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 2>knocks down the three like the spitting image of that

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 2>classic Golden State Warriors action. Thunder up by eleven, AJ

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Mitchell gets a put back chet Holmgren hits a right

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 2>shoulder fade over the top of Brook. All of a sudden,

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 2>it's thunder by fifteen. And then at this point in

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:29.160
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the earl ish kind of early third

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 2>of the fourth quarter, with a thunder up by fifteen,

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 2>AJ Mitchell came in and just utterly closed the game

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 2>with excellent pick and roll shot creation over and over

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 2>and over again, just putting the clippers in the blender,

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 2>scoring the ball and making great reads as he blows

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 2>the game open. Starts with a drop coverage look, he

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 2>attacks the big gets a left handed layup, so as

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>a result, the very next possession, brook Lopez wants to

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 2>step out higher, why so that he can stop aj

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Mitch from getting ahead of Steam going towards the basket.

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 2>That opens the short roll past to Hartenstein. Hartenstein sees

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Chet cutting along the baseline, perfect lob dunk that's created

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 2>by the lefty layup by AJ Mitchell that forced brook

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Lopez to try to stop his momentum further away from

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>the basket. Now the thunder are up. By nineteen, he

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 2>had another one where he comes screaming down the lane

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 2>in a ball screen and he smokes a layup, but

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 2>he occupies brook Lopez as the rim protector. That leaves

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Hartenstein a runway to just come in right behind him

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 2>and get an offensive rebound put back. We even got

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>a little Chet Isaiah Hartenstein two man game mixed in

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 2>here where Chet gets the ball screen from hart and

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Sign and Chet returns the favor with a beautiful little

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 2>lobb to Hartenstein over the top. It's just an avalanche.

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>It's like bucket after bucket after bucket. Another aj Mitchell

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 2>ball screen where Lopez comes high on the at the

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 2>level coverage that forces James Harden to tag Isaiah Hartenstein

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 2>on the roll kick back to Chet on the pop

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 2>extra pass to Aaron Wiggins wide open on the left

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 2>wing because Harden went to tag the roller wide open three.

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Once again.

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Aj Mitchell's scoring twice in the early fourth quarter. He

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>gets ahead of Steam on the ball screen. If you

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 2>let him get over the top and you give him

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 2>a runway, he's so damn fast. He just explodes off

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 2>that right leg and he finishes with his left hand right.

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 2>They got two easy buckets like that. That forces the

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 2>big to come up to the level. As soon as

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the big comes up to the level, you're defending the

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 2>action three on two. Now Now it's just about making

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 2>the reads and it's like easy, little tic tac toe

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Hartenstein to Chet on the lob dunk, easy to little

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 2>tic tac toe, toss back to Chet on the pop,

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 2>extra pass to Wiggins on the left wing, wide open three.

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>That goes in.

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 2>It was just an absolute avalanche, and then aj closes it.

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 2>They're up twenty two. He gets a ball screen off

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.719
<v Speaker 2>the left side, same exact thing at the level tag

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 2>beautiful cross court lefty skip pass that hits Isaiah Joe

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>right in the shooting pocket the right corner. He knocks

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 2>it down and now the Thunder are up by twenty five.

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 2>It was just an avalanche. They never stopped defending at

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 2>that crazy chaos causing level. And you can handle it

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 2>for a time, But how many games have we seen

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 2>like that with the Thunder where it's like teams are

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 2>hanging with them for like twenty four minutes, maybe for

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes, but then right around that, like mid to

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.479
<v Speaker 2>late third quarter, it's just that onslot for the Thunder

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 2>just gets too much. The other team starts to let

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 2>go of the rope a little bit, and next thing

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're up twenty five. It happens all the time.

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 2>It happened dozens of times last year. And they're just

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 2>playing beautiful offense right now, Shay's playing like an MVP.

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I continue to be blown away by the level of

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 2>offense that they're getting from their deeper bench. Since JDub

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>has been out like AJ Mitchell was downright surgical and

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 2>pick and roll down the stretch. As we broke down

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 2>in detail, you have guys like Aaron Wiggins who are

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 2>hitting shots and Isaiah Joe since he's come back, has

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 2>been a godsend in terms of their spacing. Chet and

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Isaiah Hartenstein have just such brilliant I low chemistry on

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 2>their lobs. They read each other in the middle of

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 2>the floor and on the baseline so well, and they're

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 2>obviously going to do so much damage to you and

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 2>transition off of their stops eight to no to start

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:15.479
<v Speaker 2>the year looking like an absolute juggernaut. And you know,

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I was frustrated when I heard that Kawhi was out

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 2>because the Thunder had played a light schedule last week

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>and I just wanted to see them challenged. I wanted

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>to get another look at them against a good team.

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 2>And here's the thing, this is just what the Thunder do.

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Like they're Superstar and Shaye, he never misses a game.

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>He's one of the most reliable guys in the league.

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 2>And then as a team they win the war of attrition.

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 2>We talked about this in the Lakers segment yesterday. But

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 2>when I see teams that start to rack up wins

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 2>when main guys are out of the lineup, it's always

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 2>evidence for me of depth of talent in strong basketball culture.

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 2>And there's a clear depth of talent as we're seeing

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>guys like Isaiah Joe and Aaron Wiggins and aj Mitchell

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 2>slide into bigger offensive roles and chet and Isaiah Hartenstein

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 2>in their read and react in the middle of the floor,

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 2>just giving them another level on offense that you didn't

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 2>see a couple of years ago. Right like that is

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 2>the depth of talent the strong basketball culture is the Hey,

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 2>we're down our second best player, but we're a kick

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 2>ass defensive team, and we're gonna play this way every

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 2>single night, every single possession. And you might be able

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 2>to keep up with it for a little while, but

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 2>the minute you let go of the rope, we're gonna

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 2>blow the game open. I mean, they're eight to zero

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and they've been down their second best player all season.

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 2>They've just been looking like the best team in the

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 2>league by far. To start this campaign, right before we

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 2>get out of here today, I want to talk about

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 2>this Steph interview with Lebron. I had several little takeaways.

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 2>First of all, I want to shout out Lebron because,

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:45.719
<v Speaker 2>like you would think in a situation like that, Lebron

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 2>is just he's very much the center of attention type

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 2>of personality. To Lebron's credit, I thought he did a

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.719
<v Speaker 2>good job of backing the hell off and just letting

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Steph run the interview like that. Everyone's there to see Steph.

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 2>This is your podcast. You're gonna have plenty of opportunity

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 2>to talk in other situations. Lebron just kind of backed off.

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Steve Nash did a wonderful job just kind of queuing

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 2>up questions and Lebron like popped in here and then

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 2>to offer his perspective. But it was very focused on

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Steph and his upbringing, his basketball development, his basketball philosophies,

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 2>and honestly, one of the biggest things that stood out

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:25.359
<v Speaker 2>to me, Steph is just a remarkably smart dude. He's

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 2>a great speaker, He's great at explaining his basketball philosophy.

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I found it to just be like, very easy to

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 2>listen to and very easy to understand how he feels

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 2>about the game. There were so many interesting things that

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>he dug into. I loved when he started talking about

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 2>his body and the work that he put in behind

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 2>the scenes to essentially build out all the elements of

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 2>strength training to facilitate his style of play. He kept

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 2>talking about this idea of building the chain, and like

0:34:54.960 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I talk about shooting with the concept of energy transfer, right,

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 2>this idea of like there's a power you push down

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 2>on the floor with your feet right as you're jumping,

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 2>but there is a chain of energy that goes all

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 2>the way from your ankles to your knees, to your hips,

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 2>to your core, all the way up through your shoulders.

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 2>That that is the transfer of energy through to the

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 2>top of your shot. And any power that you lose

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 2>in that chain puts extra stress on the top of

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 2>your shot, and then it gets harder for muscle memory.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.399
<v Speaker 2>When the muscle memory can be very easy and light,

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 2>it's easy to replicate it, right, But when you lose

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 2>energy up the chain, that's what forces it to be

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 2>a higher stress shot at the top.

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Of the shot.

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 2>And it's one of those things where like I just

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 2>loved hearing him break down like all the specific details.

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 2>He specifically emphasized core, which I thought was really interesting.

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 2>He kind of was talking about like that kind of

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 2>popping of the hips that occurs on most basketball movements

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 2>and the idea that like that is an area where

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot of players lose power. And I just thought

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:03.839
<v Speaker 2>it was a really interesting breakdown of the weight room

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 2>because the weight room is like something that we've talked

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 2>about this on the show, Like, I think it's one

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 2>of the most underrated elements basketball development. Basketball is contact sport,

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 2>and you're dealing with physicality in every phase, whether you're

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:17.800
<v Speaker 2>setting screens, fighting through screens, fighting to get open, driving

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 2>to the basket and winning that leverage battle and drives,

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 2>boxing out for rebounds.

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>We can go on and on.

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 2>There's a million different ways that strength plays a role,

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 2>but one of the biggest ones that we talked about

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 2>is your base on your shot. You're like Steph talked

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot about this, not in this particular interview, but

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:39.840
<v Speaker 2>in previous interviews. About the summer of twenty fifteen, after

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 2>having won the title and should have one finals MVP.

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 2>In that summer, he dramatically increased his leg strength and

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 2>he experienced like a six point per game leap in

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 2>his scoring average literally from like strength from increasing the

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 2>strength of his base. That is the when you're sprinting

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 2>full speed and you stop on a dime and rise up.

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 2>It is all leg strength and footwork that is what

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 2>allows you to get into your shots. Steph's superpower, right

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.359
<v Speaker 2>is his jump shot. It's when Steph is open. Ever

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:18.440
<v Speaker 2>since the Davidson days, that shit's going in. And so

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 2>the battle is how do you get the amount of

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 2>shots that you need? And actually thought he did an

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 2>interesting job talking about how like h with Bob Myers

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 2>coming up to him and being like, hey, like, I

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 2>think we should get you up to fifteen threes per game,

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 2>and like Steph's initial reaction was kind of like damn,

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Like you know how hard it is to get fifteen

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 2>threes up in a game? And He's right. The point

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 2>is is like when you're a shooter and they're guarding

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 2>you like a shooter, You're not just open fifteen times

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 2>a game. It's not like, oh, I'm gonna get my

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.800
<v Speaker 2>eighteen shots, I might as well make fifteen of them threes. No,

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 2>you gotta get open fifteen times for decent quality three

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.840
<v Speaker 2>point shots. And that is all in that leg strength,

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 2>that chain that Steph is talking about the ability to

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 2>move and then to stop at any point in time

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 2>and rise up and shoot. There's other elements to it, right,

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Like we're gonna talk about the offense in a minute,

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 2>the ball handling piece, the fluidity of connecting your dribble

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 2>to your shot. There's obviously a lot more that goes

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 2>into it. But I just thought all the stuff that

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Steph was talking about with building the chain physically to

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 2>be an elite shooter was just a you think of

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 2>shooting as being like, oh, let's just go shoot a

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 2>thousand shots a day, and I'm not gonna sit here

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 2>and pretend like that's not the case. Like you've got

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 2>to put in the work behind the scenes. But there

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 2>is a huge, like body building element to it that

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 2>I think is under discussed, and I really enjoyed him

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 2>breaking that down. I loved the bit that he talked

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 2>about was Steve Kerr's offense, So he essentially talked about

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 2>that transition from you know, they win fifty games with

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Mark Jackson summer of twenty fourteen, they end up bringing

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 2>in Steve Kerr. And one of the things that Steve

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Kerr that Stephan said that Steve Kerr said to him

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 2>when he was kind of holding out the initial offense

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:03.919
<v Speaker 2>was the idea of he was like, I just want

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 2>to make the defense make a ton of decisions on

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 2>every single possession. And of course, my ears, those of

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 2>you guys who have listened to the show over the years,

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 2>you know that's a concept that we talked about all

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 2>the time. My ears immediately perked up because I was like,

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.479
<v Speaker 2>that's super fascinating, because talk about being ahead of your time.

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 2>This has been something that I've been keyed in a

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:25.919
<v Speaker 2>lot over the last years. Twenty fourteen is eleven years ago.

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Like Steve Kerr was so ahead of the curve with

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 2>his like basketball philosophy in the idea of generating good

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 2>shots through essentially making a defense make a ton of

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 2>decisions on every single possession. So, for instance, like if

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 2>you're running, let's just look at the two like most

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 2>dramatic opposite examples. Right, So we have the Steph Curry

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Golden State Warriors ball and player movement offense, and then

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 2>we've got like the Luca don chicch spread pick and

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 2>roll offense. Now there's a lot more complications in the

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Lakers version of it, but if you go back to like,

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, twenty twenty two or twenty twenty four, where

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 2>it's like a lot of like just spread, pick and

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 2>roll type of stuff with Luca. It's there's not a

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 2>lot of decisions being made on the possession right, like

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 2>the balls getting brought out the floor. It's very brute force.

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 2>It's can you guard Luca in this one coverage or

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 2>in this one on one right, Like there's you know,

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 2>at the level, there's deeper drop, there's blitz, there's switch,

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 2>and in each of those four, you're essentially like removing

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 2>decision making and putting all of it on the job

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 2>of Luca. To beat that coverage like deeper drop, he's

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 2>got to go hit mid range jump shots right against that.

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 2>As the defender gets trapped on a side, he works

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 2>him into the lane, hits those little floaters right higher

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 2>drop or blitz. It's gonna be the short role. You're

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 2>hitting the guy in the pocket. Now we're playing four

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 2>on three out of that right the switch.

0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Now we're.

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Get giving a big an opportunity to guard Luka Danci

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 2>John an island, or a small guard an opportunity to

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 2>guard Luka Dancijohn an island. The lack of ball in

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 2>player movement removes a lot of the decision making. The

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 2>guys who are off the ball have pretty basic roles

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 2>right that each of them have a help and recover

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 2>responsibility depending on which spot they are in that shell

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 2>drill right. Then you flip the script to the Golden

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 2>State Warriors offense and it starts with pace.

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 2>You're playing the ball up the floor quickly early in

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 2>the shot clock, and then there's multiple interchanges. Steph made

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 2>this like really simple example. He was like, He's like,

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 2>let's say that there's a guy who gets a kickout

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.760
<v Speaker 2>three on the right wing out of like one action.

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.879
<v Speaker 2>So just imagine a guy rips from the left wing,

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 2>nail help from the right wing, swing pass guy takes

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:51.919
<v Speaker 2>a three. Steph was like, that's not the same as

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 2>the exact same shot that comes out of a possession

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 2>where the balls already switched sides of the floor two

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 2>or three times. There's a rhythm that from people touching

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 2>the basketball. There are upsides to getting deeper into the

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.320
<v Speaker 2>possession and making them guard multiple actions above and beyond

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 2>the rhythm part. Over the course of that, you present

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 2>all of these opportunities for someone to mess up. If

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Steph runs off of five screens in a possession and

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 2>you defend the first three really well, you switch them properly,

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 2>or you stay attached physically and have help on any

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 2>sort of back cut, and then all of a sudden,

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 2>on the fourth one, two guys run with Steph. Someone

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 2>messed up. Now someone's wide open on the slip, and

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 2>someone's getting a wide open shot. A perfect example last

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 2>night is Steph running off of that wide pin down

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:45.360
<v Speaker 2>from Draymond. Draymond slips into the open space, then he

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 2>throws the behind the head pass to Moses Moody in

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 2>the corner. That's a mistake that comes from the ball

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 2>and player movement that forces a defense to make so

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 2>many decisions on each possession. And when I heard that,

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, of course, Steve or was on

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.720
<v Speaker 2>top of this concept, like way back in the summer

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 2>of twenty fourteen, he was ahead of the curve, and

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 2>he took what was already a good team in that

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Golden State Warriors team, and pushed him up to sixty

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 2>seven wins by essentially weaponizing the threat of Stephan Clay's

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 2>shooting through multiple actions on every single possession that forced

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 2>defenses to make a ton of decisions. And as soon

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 2>as somebody messes up, there's your opening. It's it takes

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 2>an enormous amount of trust, and like Steph talked about it,

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 2>how it was kind of sloppy at first, and it

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 2>took them a little while to kind of like figure

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 2>out what kind of shots they were going to get

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 2>in the offense and how to you know.

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Basically how to execute it.

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 2>But I was just really fascinating to hear Steve, like

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Steph essentially point out that Steve Kerr was breeding this

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 2>idea of like using ball in player movement to force

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 2>defenses to make a ton of decisions on every single possession,

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 2>inevitably leading to the mistakes that lead to the openings.

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 2>Last thing I'll say overall, you know, I just was

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 2>thinking about it as I was watching the show. I

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 2>just think Steph is so damn cool, and he's so smart,

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 2>and he's so fun to listen to talk about the game,

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:16.359
<v Speaker 2>and he's become you know, I think he's the fifth

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 2>best perimeter player of all time. He's become literally one

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.840
<v Speaker 2>of the very best basketball players to ever touch the floor.

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 2>And it's just kind of funny because I hated his

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>ass ten years ago. I hated him because obviously I

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 2>was a younger fan and I was rooting for the

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:36.760
<v Speaker 2>for the Lebron led Cleveland Cavaliers, right, and so rooting

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<v Speaker 2>against him made me hate him. But it's been so

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<v Speaker 2>funny because like over the course of the last you know,

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<v Speaker 2>six or seven years, especially as I've started to really

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<v Speaker 2>learn about the game, as I've studied the NBA and

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<v Speaker 2>tried to become more familiar with how NBA basketball works,

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<v Speaker 2>and then obviously just getting distance from from the rivalry.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Steph's just one of.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite basketball players of all time, and he he's

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<v Speaker 2>just completely won me over and I just really really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed listening to him just talk about basketball for forty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes yesterday. It was an excellent pod. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to part two. I'm hoping that they kind of

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<v Speaker 2>dive more into the Steph Lebron rivalry in that second episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine they will, and so I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 2>see that when they come.

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<v Speaker 1>Out with that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, guys, it's all I have for today, As always,

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<v Speaker 2>to sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting us and supporting

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<v Speaker 2>the show. We'll be back tomorrow with more game reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll see you guys then.